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>> the saudis are very angry that iran is about to get $150 billion in cash from the frozen assets that are about to disappear. all right, guys, it's a bad situation. we'll continue to watch it. that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer "the situation room." erin burnette with "outfront" starts right now. coming up next, with weeks left until the iowa kay wass, donald trump turns up the heat spending millions of new ads so is he getting nervous. plus, the president about to make a new announcement. detail this hour. and they say they're not leaving until their demands are met. i'm going to talk to the man leading the standoff. leading the standoff. let's go "outfront." -- captions by vitac --
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good evening, everyone. i eat kate bolduan in for erin burnette. right now both of those candidates are going to be speaking live making what is very close to their final pitch to primary and caucus voters. donald trump is rallying voters outside in new hampshire. tedd cruz is in iowa, part of a six-day swing through three dozen counties in that state. and the rest of the gop field is fanning across the early states and with the pressure on, donald donald trump is now rolling out his first tv ad highlighting some of his most controversial comments yet. >> donald trump calls it islamic terrorism. that's why he's calling for a shutdown of muslims into the united states until he can figure out what's going on. >> sara is traveling with the trump campaign.
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she's with us tonight. a lot of questions right now about whether he can turn this big enthusiasm at these rallies into actual votes. what are voters there telling you? >> that's right, kate. that's really the core question of donald trump's candidacy. he can turn out thousands for the rallies and he's leading in the polls but his supporters are a mishmash of republicans, democrats who are disenchanted with their party and those who have never voted before. and the question is if it's a really cold night in iowa, will people show up? >> i got here as people were lined up as the temperatures were in the teens and they were scoffing that the iowa voters wouldn't show up because it was a little chilly outside. i spoke to one couple in their 60s who got here at 10:00 a.m. the doors didn't open until 5:00 p.m. to wait for trump and they're convinced this sort of
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enthusiasm doesn't just apply to the rallies. if you're willing to stand outside in 15-degree weather to see trump at real y you're going to show up on election day. they don't want to hear anything else about the clintons. they want to hear donald trump talk about substance, talk about what he would do if he were president. they said the clintons have plenty of skeletons in their past and donald trump has his own scandals and they don't want to hear about any of it. kate? >> fascinating. yes, it is very cold in iowa and very cold in massachusetts. it sounds like a big question. thank you so much. so how much of an impact will donald trim p's ad have on the campaign and his chances in the earth early stage. dana bash is out front. >> temporary shutdown. >> reporter: donald trump's first paid television ad is
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direct and blunt. >> mexico will pay for. >> reporter: and not without controversy. it turns out that footage of people flooding the border is not mexico and the u.s. but morocco and spain. after the been site politifact uncovered the discrepancy, the trump campaign said it was intentional to show the, quote, severe impact of an open border. and or on the forum the reality star used to become a front-runner he started 2016 as he ended 2015 going after both clintons on cnn's "new day." >> she used the word sexist. i'm sexist. and she was using very southward of derogatory terms. i said how in the hell can she do that when zbheets one of the a great women abusers of all time sitting at her house. >> reporter: trump rallied a huge crowd this weekend in mississippi. >> outside we have thousands of
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people trying to get in. >> reporter: but it is iowa just four weeks away where trump's fiercest come tell p.e.t. tore in the caucuses is spending his week. >> this is now the time that the men and women of iowa step up. >> reporter: ted cruze on a 28-day six-stop is trying to get the vote of evangelicals by quoting scripture. if my people which shawl come by nigh name and turn from their wicked ways and seek my mayers. >> and throwing down his best clint eastwood impersonation. >> when you hang a man, make sure you hang him high. >> reporter: new hampshire's starts in six days. >> the job suspect for come men
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tate irin chief or frankly the come men tate never chief. it's described as the commander in chief. if you can't be bothered to offer specifics on how you will perform that job, then, quite frankly, you don't deserve that job. >> but anger is not a strategy and it won't make our government better and it won't make our country better unless it's anger used to motivate us toward electing someone who can actually do the job. >> now, rubio and christie aren't just going after trump and cruz. they're going after each other. a little more than five weeks ahead of the new hampshire primary, each thinks the other is a primary favorite. rubio's attack ad is supposed to be aimed at the new jersey governor. he's hoping for a comeback. >> that's absolutely right. thank you, dana. thank you so much. the police are coming for you. watch out, you can hear the sirens in the background. let's hear from you.
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it's a great to see you. >> good to see you. >> hi, katrina. trump brags about not needing to use any money and he still stays atop of the polls. katrina, why roll out any ads and why now? >> we're a month out from the iowa caucus. they want to make sure their narrative stays consistent and that their opponents don't define who they are and as we heard, mr. trump's ad is very consistent with what we've been saying the entire time. this is about getting excited, nothing more and nothing less. >> nothing more, nothing less. trump also said on top of that, he almost feels guilty not spending some cash. he said that to cbs. do you think this has all been he feels back about not spending money? >> no. i think trump is concerned he's not going to do well in iowa and then things are going to spiral
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out of control. he's smart to spend money. he's in a very tight race with ted cruz. the problem is what's in his ad that might get him in trouble. he says take the oil of isis. is he going to take it and give it back to the people or sell it? it's obviously news to me and also when he says he's going to build the wall, how are you going to do it? at some point he's going to have to answer the question with specifics and saying i'm a negotiator. i'm the best negotiator you've ever seen in the world. trust me. mexico is going to pay for it. that is not a plan. that's an idea backed up in literally nothing. at some point he's going to have to talk to the voters in iowa, in new hampshire, with actual facts on how he's going accomplish this, otherwise they're empty promises. >> here's the thing. >> i'm not quite sure that's the case, ben. you're talking about donald
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trump who's a building empire holder. of course, he knows how to build a wall. of course, how is that going to happen? >> i didn't say. >> ben, are you going to let me talk? are you going to let me speak? >> that's not what i said. >> let him finish. >> katrina, to ben's point he says he knows how to build a wall but how is he going to let mexico pay for it? >> every time we give a dime to anybody, we put conditions and terms and we have all of these strings attacked. we don't do that with other nations that we give hundreds of millions and sometimes billions of dollars to. we have to start using our own leverage which is financial on these other countries to make them step up in the middle east and to build a wall on the southern border of china, on the southern border of the united states of mexico. >> i'm not saying donald trump doesn't know how to build an actual wall. that's the easy part of the
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plan. the answer he has given is, quote/unquote, trust me, i'm the best negotiator in the world, that's the best answer. what you just said did not answer the question. saying you're going put pressure on mexico and therefore they're going to put pressure and say, oh, he just became the president of the united states of america, and, therefore, we're going build a wall because he became president. that's not the answer. >> the wall has already been started. >> katrina, let me jump in on this. that's one thing that has come found many republicans and conservatives alike, how is that possible do. i have voter, new hampshire voters do, they really want to hear more from him? they're going to find out when they head to the polls. here's one more thing. you heard it in dana's piece. his campaign is being called out
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for using footage from morocco in this new ad when talking about the border. you guys said it was intentional. let's be honest. a lot of folks don't know this is morocco, so to a lot of folks, this is misleading. >> you know 60% sl a visual that. was getting point across. had any used footage from undocumented minors, he would have been accused of being insensitive, taking advantage or taking advantage of a humanitarian crisis. i think he has been specific. but the reason why a lot of people aren't really listening to this 14-point necessity is because we've had republican politicians for the last few decades that go out there and they spout off these 14-point plans, make all these campaign promises, and they give you the exact think tank you want to hear and get elected and do nothing. that's why it's not setting with voters. >> we'll have to see if the
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visual aid being misleading will fly with voters. i have to say that's a question more folks will want to know about. katrina, ben, thanks, goods. >> thank you. outfront reveals hillary's new year's resolution. hi hint, it's all about donald trump. gun control, how far will the president go. and handling campaigners on the trail. the good, the bad, and the, oh, so ugly. >> get him the hell out of here, will you, please? get him out of here. throw him out! this is claira. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her she's agreed to give it up.
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tonight the comeback kid is back on the campaign trail in new hampshire. bill clinton on the campaign trail to hit for his wife. he clearly had the gop field on his mind offering some veiled hits along the way. >> every presidential election people run and, believe it or not, it's kind of scary this year, but believe it or not, most everybody actually tries to do what they say they're going to do when they're running. they're telling you what they believe, and so you've got to take them seriously. but you also have to take seriously whether they have any chance of doing what they say they're going to do or any record of doing it. >> brianna keilar is live. so he did not mention donald
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trump by name but a whole lot of folks were wondering if he would respond to this comment on cnn earlier today. >> they, during the course of the debate and many other times, he was talking about the used the word "sexist," i'm sexist. he was using sort of very derogatory terms. i said how in the hell can she do that when she gets one of the a great women abusers of all time sitting at her house waiting for him to come home. >> so he did mention it on the stump. what are you hearing? is clinton going to respond? >> you know, we don't expect him to necessarily respond if today is any indication today kate, by a reporter. he sort of glossed over it. he said republicans will have to decide who they're going nominate. he's here in new hampshire to tell voter, tell the country that hillary is the best pick
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for president that. said, you just played sound for bill clinton on the stump. he had these thinly veiled jabs and that's not the only one to trump. not surprisingly, the self-selecting folks who were here and came to nashua to hear bill clinton speak, they didn't want to hear about this. even one of them, an undecided voter told us that she thought this was donald trump who's throwing a stone from a glass house and that he's just a hypocrite. so this isn't something that people really want to hear. now, the difference may be if donald trump keeps hitting hillary clinton on this. we know bill clinton when he's taking the incoming himself it doesn't get under his skin as much as when somebody's criticizing his wife. that's when he gets very defensive. if today's any indication, he ee going to try to keep the focus on his wife and push this controversy to the side. >> you talk about those hits getting under his skin, we saw that in '08. he turned out to be a liability
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at times for hillary's campaign. how much are they going to be putting him out there this time? >> we just learned after his convenient here, he's going to be in iowa on thursday for two events, so aside from that the campaign is true, that they believe he's an asset, a good communicator, certainly a good draw for hillary clinton. at the same time the person you saw today on the stump was a much more buttoned up disciplined candidate than you saw back in 2008. in 2008 he notoriousy did not take a lot of direction from his wife's campaign. he freelanced a bit. he got her into trouble when he called then senator obama's candidacy the biggest fairy tale he had ever seen and then when he said he won south carolina, he said jesse jackson won it twice, which was taken as sort of a dismissive as well as a
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statement that had racist under taupes and that's how he's hurt hillary clinton with that. he's shown early discipline. it's very uncharacteristic for bill clinton. it seems he's going to be putting it out there. >> wait a second, he's early? that's not bill clinton's style, that's for sure. >> so weird, so weird. >> it's a weird campaign, that's for sheer. thanks, brianna. good to see you. let's discuss ted cruz, amanda carpenter, and brad woodhouse. guys, it's a great to see you. >> thank you, kate. >> thank you. >> donald trump, he's not letting up on his attacks against bill clinton, yes, that's for shoe. but, yes, bill clinton comes with baggage because buh you're talking about one of the most
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popular presence. in fr. your perspective, is this something he should be taking on? >> absolutely. bill clinton of all people should have a response to this question. the fact that he doesn't know how to answer it tells me that the gop has a complete free by to go at hillary clinton through bill clinton and if i were advising somebody, i would encourage the super facts because they're on the defense. >> so bill clinton's a free by now. >> i wish amanda was advising these campaigns. my god. they tried to do it for 20 years. it's never worked. bill clinton won in '92, '96, and '98. remember when they tried to impeach him newt gingrich was disgraced and hillary clinton was nominated with all the republicans trying all of these tactics. rand paul ran this whole issue out last year. he was laughed off the -- he was laughed off the stage. so, look.
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i think the reason not to respoer respond to it is that this probably helps donald trump a little bit in the primary because he's stoking the base, but this fight has always helped the clintons. there's no reason to engage in it because donald trump is going to do what donald trump is going to do. but, yeah, amanda, please advise people to keep doing these attacks. they've always backfired. >> go ahead. >> here's the thing, brad. things are different in 2016 and that they were in the 1990s. hillary clinton opened the door herself by saying victims of the abuse should be believed until there's evidence that they shouldn't. that brings up judgment for hillary clinton. what's her role in these scandals. i never heard the answer to it. we talk about millennials who weren't around in the 1990s but have just heard of them. frankly the more i hair about them, the more alarming they are.
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monica lewinsky was 22 years old. the clintons think they're children until 26. did she stand by her man or protect women? she wants to be a defender of women. this gets to her judgment, it gets to her record, and i'm certainly not surprised they have no response. they pretend like nobody else wants to know. >> amanda does bring up a point i did want to raise with you. she brings up the comment from hillary clinton. all sexual assault victims have the right to be heard. following that a republican reporter in new hampshire heckled her, to that point is that heckler right? >> well, look, kate. they were heard. we saw -- we saw this issue judged in the congress, we saw a special prosecutor appointed who went absolutely wild. we saw depositions, we saw
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lawsuits. these people have been heard. one thing that has been changed in the 1990s. they have moved on. bill clinton is the most popular politician in america. >> one question -- >> amanda, another thing to the point to what brad is saying and how popular bill clinton is, if you look back, hillary clinton's favorability went up after the monica lewinsky scandal broke. how much should republicans be concerned? this could backfire on trump and probably by extension republicans at large. >> i do think in the 1990s hillary got points for stand big her man but the democrats have largely picked a fight i don't think they can finish. they want to act like there's a war onwom women. that's simply not true. i worked for two republican
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senators who were considered sexist for voting nefrg the legislation. what bill clinton got away with in the 1990s would never get away with this in 2016. i would never work for a man like that. a lot of republican women want to know what hillary clinton's role was in that and it's just galling to think she wants to be a defender of women given what she witnessed as first lady. >> kate, there's so much history here, this has backfired every single time. this might stoke up the republican base. this might be what donald trump needs to do to distract from the fact that ted cruz has gotten ahead of him but it will drive independent women toward hillary and hurt the republicans and by all means i hope amanda keeps advising republicans down the road. >> i'm keeping this tape, guys. after the iowa and new hampshire
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and breaking news. president obama is about to make a major announcement on gun control, unveiling a series of executive orders on just that. the unprecedented move bypasses congress after no gun control laws were passed into law. cnn's michelle kosinski has the
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details coming in from the white house. what are you learning tonight? >> first of all you see the charges and the administration trying to put its hand in every step in the process. because these are executive actions and not acts of congress, you see the limits there. the changes are put out there as proposals or encouragement or guidance, these are not new laws. the biggest issue is the background check. the white house says even engaged the business of selling guns, whether you're selling two guns a gear or 200,000 guns, you have to get a license to sell and all of your buyers have to undergo background checks, and there are going to be big penalties if you don't register. that includes people not just selling at gun shows but also on the internet, even a dark home from the web. you name it. if you're selling, you have do this. the question is how is the
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government going to make people register and how would they find everybody who needs to do that? what's the enforce mnlts issue there? also the white house sent a letter to every governor encouraging states to contribute more information to the background check system, things like people who would be disqualified because of mental illness or domestic violence convictions. again, this is encouragement. the white house also wants to -- there's a proposal to beef up the background check system itself, a lot more hiring, funding, having it operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week as well as much, much more funding for mental health treatment in this country. however, that money is an ask. it has to come from congress, kate. >> despite it, we're even seeing reaction before this was rolled out from republican candidates, that's for sure. michel michelle, thank you so much. outfront, with me, van
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jones, and richard and steve slan ek, cnn law analyst and a law professor. thank you very much for coming in. we now have some of the detail as what the president is going to announce, push for, whajd he'll formally unveil tomorrow. richard, from what you've heard, background checks is a big focus for the white house and the president rfrmt president. i thought it wassing are interesti interesting. 84% supported it. with all of that in mind, what is the problem then with this move by the white house? >> well, i haven't read the details of the report, but our organization has always supported mandatory background checks between strangers at gun shows, on the internet. the real problem is going to
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come when we examine the requirements of transferring guns between family members, friends, co-workers. that's where the rubber's going to meet the road. in my original perusal here, there are some very good things the president is proposing. $500 million for mental health research. that's a good thing. my only question is why did it take him seven years to figure that out. >> vann, what do you say to that? >> well, first of all, i just want to say hallelujah. this pretty is going to do more good on gun safety in one day than congress has been willing to do in a decade. this is a very, very good thing. also, i this i you have to understand you have so many shenanigans that have been going on in terms of the gun trade. you're buying it on the internet, the dark web, people setting up trusts, corporations, all kinds of shenanigans going on. the president has been begging
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congress do something about it. there's a circle of constitutional authority and concern. where they overlap the president can act. this president acting is a good thing. it's very good thing. >> vann, but i want you to get -- i want to get you on this point to. what he's saying that one of the proposals is $500 million investment to increase access to mental health care. if everyone agrees that that's a good thing, why has it taken the president so long? that gets to what critics of the president say is that this is as much politically motivated as it is a policy >> i don't think that that's fair. if you look at it overall, you've got some carrots, some sticks, some pleas, some prayers. the president is basically putting everything on the table and saying, can we get something done. and the same people who criticize the president for not going to congress, now he's going to congress and they're saying it's too late. if this congress want odd to act, congress could have acted on mental health a long time ago. this is a very good thing.
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what's so surprising, the people who jump out and say this is terrible, this is tyranny, they're going to find a lot to played here, a lot to applaud. >> richard, you know, the president when he was announcing the move, he says that this is well within his legal authority. today the president had the attorney general sitting next to him making announcement and the fbi director and the head of the atf sitting next to him. before all this happened we had republican after republican including house speaker paul ryan calling this dangerous level of executive overreach, the country will not stand for it. do you think the president is doing something illegal here in what he's rolling out? >> well, i don't really know. i just perused it before the show. it all depends on the process by which he's going about promulgating this. the president can't raise taxes by $500 million. that has to be authorized by the congress. he can propose, but the congress still has to act.
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he can't override the koj. we have a democratic republican, in this country with three equal branches government. i think what people were upset about in the past the president has overreached and i recall three years ago almost to the day when the president issued, i believe, it was 27 executive orders. i have them with me. and when i read some of them, many of which made sense then, but he never did anything about them. issuing orders and effectuating them into policy are two very different tasks. >> steve, i want you to weigh in. i want steve to weigh in on this to this point. where the rubber meets the road, where are the details? that obviously is important. but from what you hear, steve, opponents say immediately this is executive overreach and that the president is already breaking the law. is he? >> i think based on what we've heard so far, no. i think it's important to separate out two separate legal
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questions here. the real question is about the second amendment but the courts have been fairly clear that even though the second amendment allows people to keep them in their own home it doesn't prevent the government from pursuing a background check. the more important question is what speaker ryan alluded to. that's whether the president is interpreting federal statutes, the ones that require background checks already, is it a reasonable interpretation of the statute to say that individuals selling guns on the internet and at gun shows who are doing more than selling guns to family members are also covered fwi same federal statute, based on what we've seen so far, that's a long shot for them to be making much more politically sensitive than legally precise. >> hmm. steve, richard, vann, thank you all so much. this conversation is just getting under way. it's going to be a very busy week in terms of this conversation. thursday night president obama
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is joining anderson cooper and a live audience to talk about guns in america. that's at 8:00 eastern right here on cnn. outfront for us next, armed proteste protesters holed up in a government building. they say they're prepared to do whatever it takes to win their demands. we have a report on that coming up next. and after protesters fire bottom the embassy in tehran, the saudis cut ties to tehran. could it blow up to an even wider war in the middle east? ♪ beth, i hear you calling.♪. ♪ but i can't come home right now... ♪ ♪ me and the boys are playing.♪. and we just can't find the sound... ♪ just a few more hours... ♪
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breaking news, officials in oregon with a new message to the heavily armed activists who seized a federal building. the message, lay down your weapons goonld home. they say they're prepared to fight if anyone tries to stop them. this dangerous act is taking place at this national wildlife refuge building. this all started after two ranchers were convicted of settling fire to national land but for the protesters it goes far beyond that. sara sidner is live in oregon. sara, what is the status of the standoff at this point? >> reporter: they're standing their ground for lack of a better word, and they're saying they're going to be here until the federal government hands the
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land back over to the local people. the federal government hasn't responded but i think a lot of folks know inside there that that likely isn't going to happen. it began as rally in support of two local ranchers. now it's stand adjuster that could turn violent. >> are you armed? >> absolutely. if we as a people, if we're not armed, those trying to take our rights will take them easily. >> reporter: 40-year-old ammon bundy says they're occupying illegally so he and others have taken over a national wildlife headquarters in oregon about 30 mys from the town of buns. bundy is a familiar face when it comes to anti-government groups. in 2014 his father cliven bundy led a confrontation with a bureau of land management for attempting to confiscate cattle illegally grazing on land.
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>> i want to talk directly to the people of the wildlife refuge. you said you were here to help the citizens of harney county. that help ended. >> they marched in solidarity with dwight and steven hammond, a father and son team convicted of arson in 2012 and sent to jail for burning 120 acres of land. >> i'm going to jail. it seems like a bit of an overkill. >> reporter: prosecutors say the hammonds were hunting deer on federal land and set a fire to clear their tracks. they said they were clearing brush. they turned themselves in today after a federal judge ordered them back to jail for five more years. the three-day standoff is being monitored by oregon state police, the fbi, teen republican presidential candidates are weighing in. >> every one of us has a constitutional right to protest and speak our minds, but we
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don't have a constitutional right to threaten force and violence and threaten it on others. >> reporter: they have claimed the lives of hundreds of ranches since the early 1900s. though they're not promoting violence they rear prepared to stay there as long as it takes. if you think it's going to end if you ask for -- >> if peace matter, yeah. >> reporter: otherwise things might get violent? >> i don't get to make those decisions. i won't make a violent decision, but oppression, oppressive governments may. they probably shouldn't. >> reporter: now, we have been out here all day and there have been people here since saturday since this group took over this headquarters. we have seen no police, not the feds, not state, not local. they have not been out to this area, which is a good 30 to 35 miles outside of the closest
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town, byrnes, oregon. whether that will change or not, we have not been told, but certainly you know that the sheriff's department is well aware and so is the fbi. kate. >> still, but still there's a question of how long is this going to take. thank you so much. "outfront" next, saudi arabia cuts ties with tehran. what does it mean now with the war on isis and jeanne moos with the never-ending battle between hecklers and politicians. >> is a trump supporter worried about mr. trump's money? this is claira. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her she's agreed to give it up. that's today? we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. after the deliveries, i was ok. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back?
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right now, tensions boiling over in the most volatile region in the world. the middle east after saudi arabia executed 47 people including a prominent shiite collar rick, that sparking protest. crowds torching the saudi embassy and today the two countries have cut off diplomatic ties and the fallout quickly spreading beyond their borders. at least three other countries are turning their backs on iran. "outfront" ed royce, the
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chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. a very, very touchy, sensitive time and it's boiling over and happening as we speak. i want to get your take, as we look overseas, mr. chairman, you're watching this escalating overseas. what does this mean for the united states? does this means specially for the united states, the war against isis, specifically in syria? >> could you imagine the amount of slaughter that would occur for is the now the government in iran has tried to over throw the government in yemen, saudi arabia. if this erupts into a larger war, think of the slaughter, humanitarian crisis, imagine how you can magnify that tenfold should this lead to more confrontation. it's also going to make it much harder in terms of any negotiation over syria when you
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have iran on one side and saudi arabia supporting the faction against assad. >> it's crunch time in trying to reach a peaceful solution in syria. there is supposed to be a meeting of the minds at the end of the this month. what are the chances that meeting will even go off? >> this is the other problem because now with the governments beginning lineup and shiite government on one side and sunny on the other, we lost our credibility. there is no longer the trust that the united states is going to stand up to iran and there was a day when iran or in twas concerned what we thought. when regan was president they gave up our hostages. they took another hostage and fired a missile close to a carrier and on top of that, they
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keep testing and pushing the ene envelope. the jordans, the saudis and others see this and so they are no longer taking our advice. when we say stand down, they don't stand down and likewise, when we tell the iranians, i don't know what we tell the iranians because we seem to placate them. this is a problem. >> at this point, how concerned are you that this could go from a freezing of diplomatic relation, violent protest to real military conflict? >> the reason i'm concerned about that is because we saw the iranian military move into yemen and then we saw saudi arabia without telling us form a force region -- >> do you think it's a real chance? >> they went in to fight it. the same thing with kuds forces coming into this theater of operation here and pushing the idea the otola has the answer coming directly against the sunny belief system and because the iranians have this propensity to try to over throw regimes and call for the over throw of regimes, this then
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heightens the tensions. >> seems like it's a scary, scary time and getting worse as we speak. thanks for coming in. appreciate it. "outfront" next, jeanne moos on hacklers and politicians going after one another again and again. huh. introducing centrum vitamints. a brand new multivitamin you enjoy like a mint. with a full spectrum of essential nutrients... surprisingly smooth, refreshingly cool. i see you found the vitamints. new centrum vitamints. a delicious new way to get your multivitamins. while you're watching this, i'm hacking your company. grabbing your data. stealing your customers' secrets. there's an army of us. relentlessly unpicking your patchwork of security.
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bye, bye. bye, bye. >> that was just moments ago. donald trump facing off with one of several hacklers at his rally tonight but he is far from alone. here is jeanne moos. >> reporter: they can be rude. they can be annoying. >> wait, wait, wait. >> reporter: but who the heck can resist hacklers to see how a candidate deals with them. so it was news when hillary clinton first tried to ignore. >> i'm not going to take your question. >> reporter: a republican state representative insisting on bringing up sex issue s promptig hillary to snap. >> you are very rude and i'm not going to ever call on you. thank you. >> reporter: the same time bernie sanders was confronted on a sign waving guy. >> here is a trump supporter worried about mr. trump's money. >> reporter: a sanders supporter retaliated by giving the hackler the two-handed one finger solute. no one gets more practice with hacklers than donald trump
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himself. he's always saying. >> hello. hello. >> reporter: to a hackler or waving good-bye. >> bye, bye. >> reporter: at one point trump was accused of being too rough on a hackler that got him shoved around. >> get him the hell out of here. >> reporter: and other times trump softened his approach. >> get him out but don't hurt him. >> reporter: he handles hacklers with shrugs, smiles and once got flak for calling a hackler over weight. >> i mentioned food stamps and that guy that was over weight went crazy. >> reporter: you could get dr. jekyll or mr. hide. from jeb bush asking a hackler to speak up. >> excuse me? >> reporter: to chris christie saying sit down. >> sit down and shut up. >> reporter: bernie sanders decided to stand down when black lives matter protesters showed up at his podium refusing to
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shake stand anders. the candidate backed off. >> i promise you that's not going to happen with me. >> reporter: it's hard to out heckle the hackler in chief. >> how can i describe our leaders better than the word stupid? >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> bye, bye. >> thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. happy new year. we weekebegin with breaking new. president obama says he's taking action on gun control and hinted he was and we have details. michelle kaczynski joins us from the white house. what do we know? >> reporter: you really see administration trying to make as many changes as possible but because these are executive actions and not acts of congress, immediately, you see the limits they are up against. the changes are presented as guidance or propels or encouragement by no means are these new laws. the biggest deal is background checks.


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