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inity will change the way you experience tv. 27 days until iowa, and it is getting ugly out there. "the lead" starts right now. republican candidates throwing shade in every direction, as they swing through new hampshire and iowa, and establishment rivals are going for blood. >> every time i think about those kids, it gets me mad. >> president obama tearing up at the white house today as he thinks about the sandy hook massacre and announces some new gun control measures, moves that he'll make without congress, but will they prevent another newtown or another child's death on the streets of chicago? plus, tech toys from virtual reality to the mirror, mirror on
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the wall that can predict your zits. the highlights from this year's consumer electronics show in las vegas. hello, everyone, welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we'll start with our politics lead. if you are currently in an early primary or caucus state you don't need the likes of me to tell you that we're in the heat of election season with 27 days before the first votes are cast in iowa. this is it. this is crunch time, so the candidates are all out there trying to get their messages to the public and go after each other. we've got cnn reporters fanned out across the early voting states tracking the candidates as they step up their campaigning and their attacks. we're going to go first to cnn political reporter sara murray for the latest in the republican race. she's in clairemont, new hampshire. sara, it's astounding to me how much these candidates are attacking one another, but not going after the front-runner, donald trump. >> reporter: that's right.
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the time for playing nice is over, but apparently these rules do not apply to donald trump. we saw a much more demure trump on the campaign trail yesterday than we've seen in a while. and other candidates are largely sparing him from their attacks too. >> i don't care whether your name is barack obama, ted cruz or marco rubio, you never won a thing of consequence in your life. >> reporter: months of raising money, honing policy positions and polishing stump speeches, coming down to this, the last few weeks before voters hit the polls. and now the knives are out. on the stump and on the air waves. chris christie bashing his gop rivals who hail from the senate. >> you go to the legislature, they schedule when you're supposed to be there, they tell you where to sit and then they say yes or no, say yes or no. senator rubio can't even seem to get that done. >> reporter: while marco rubio tries to turn one of his potential weaknesses in a gop primary, immigration, into a shot at ted cruz.
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>> he supported our massive expansion of temporary workers, guest workers coming into the united states. he supports massive doubling of the number of green cards, so his record on immigration in the past is a little different than what it is now. >> reporter: and donald trump is sticking to one of his favorite punching bags, jeb bush. >> bush was three. bush? that's not good. how would you like to spend $59 million. see this young guy over here. if i spent $59 million on him he's be at at least five. >> reporter: all those millions of dollars coming straight to the homes of state voters, as candidates blanket the air waves with ads. a super pac backing rubio slamming christie as too cozy with barack obama and his liberal principles. >> chris christie could well be obama's favorite republican governor. why? christie's record.
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>> reporter: while cruz tries to rally voters over the threat of illegal immigration. >> i understand that when the mainstream media covers immigration, it doesn't often see it as an economic issue. but i can tell you, it is a very personal economic issue. >> reporter: vowing to secure the border. >> if i'm elected president, we will triple the border patrol. we will build a wall that works. >> reporter: and using some language that sounds awfully familiar to trump. >> he says we're going to build a wall. now here's the good thing, he's a politician so he wouldn't know where to start. you know, i know how to build a wall. i know exactly how to build a wall. i know the footings, i know how deep they have to go, i know how high we can go with the precast, i know everything. >> reporter: now, we might see an immigration battle brewing between donald trump and ted cruz. buzzfeed managed to catch cruz on camera talking to voters, sounding like he's trying to go to the right of trump, saying trump could kick illegal immigrants out of the country but allow some in.
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cruz was telling voters last night that he would not allow any undocumented immigrants back in the country once he dpoerepo them so an interesting feud could be starting up there. >> i'm going to ask the campaign manager about that in just a few minutes. we're going to turn now to sun ly lin serfaty. how has he been responding? >> reporter: he does seem to be relishing himself as the newfound trarget of many of his opponents, wearing it as a badge of honor and he's using that to suggest that many of his opponents are panicking in the face of his momentum, especially here in iowa. as he travels on this bus tour throughout this state, he's suggesting to his supporters, saying brace yourself, there will be an onslaught of even
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more attacks to come. here's what he said at a campaign stop earlier today. >> what's happening in iowa right now is special. yeah, we've been through the silly season of the campaign, we've been through the media games, we've been through the attacks of the mud slinging and this next month it's going to get worse. y'all are going to see millions and millions of dollars of tv ads, of mailers. the nice thing about mailers is they make great kindling in your fireplace. they really do light up fast. >> reporter: now, ted cruz likes to make a big point of saying that he likes to stay above the fray, not really get involved in that mud slinging. he referenced and still refuses to directly and in public take on donald trump, but he and his campaign have been really honing their message, jake, here in iowa, going directly much more so after senator marco rubio. >> sun llen serfaty, thanks.
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manu, thank you for joining us. rubio's campaign releasing an ad on national security. that's a topic he's been hammering home for months and hitting ted cruz on for weeks. what did he have to say today? >> reporter: what he's been saying is that, look, ted cruz voted for a surveillance law that gutted the national security agency, the ability to collect bulk data. he believes that's a way to distinguish himself from ted cruz on this national security issue. it's interesting, when rubio talks to voters, he does not cite ted cruz by name, he does not cite donald trump by name. but when he's asked about his rivals, today we got a chance to talk to him about ted cruz and chris christie, he has a different message when he talks to reporters. here's a little bit of what he had to say. >> i have a very different view on national security than ted cruz. he wants to -- he has voted for and supported a containment budget that reduced national security. i think we need to rebuild the u.s. military. he's in favor of weakening our
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intelligence programs. i'm in favor of expanding them. this country cannot afford a president that's not going to reverse the direction barack obama has taken our country. we can't have a president that is for expanding obamacare. these are serious policy disputes and there's nothing in those ads that's inaccurate, it's the truth. >> reporter: now that last comment was a reference to the super pac that -- rubio's super pac that released two ads cre t criticizing chris christie calling him president obama's favorite republican. it shows a war he's mounting against ted cruz in iowa, to prevent cruz from running away with it here in this state and also against chris christie who is surging in new hampshire and emerging as an alternative to cruz and trump. rubio is trying to play in both lanes. we'll see how it works, jake. >> we'll have a lot more about those ads. the air war coming up on the
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show. thank you so much. joining me now the campaign manager for donald trump's presidential campaign. cory, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> mr. trump said that president obama's executive actions on firearms will be, quote, you won't bow able to get guns. the president unveiled ten separate provisions the white house hopes to curb gun violence. how will any of them lead to gun confiscation or the wholesale shutting down of gun sales. >> here's what he's doing, right? this is typical of an administration that refuses to work with congress to get bills passed. he's making an end run around the constitution, trying to go directly through executive order and restrict one of the basic fundamental principles of our country, which is the right to keep and bear arms. while everyone wants responsible gun ownership, what the president refuses to do is work in a bipartisan fashion to get a piece of legislation done. he's basically a lame duck administration at this point. he's using the power of the
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executive branch to go around the will of the people and the will of congress to try to do something that is probably borderline illegal. >> but you'll concede the point that what the president has proposed does not mean, quote, you won't be able to get guns. >> no, i don't concede that. what the president is proposing is if a father wants to give a gun to his son or another family member, they're going to have to go through a background check all of a sudden? this is insanity. this is a time honored tradition, the right to bear arms and that should not be infringed. and if the president wants to do so, he should allow public input and allow the members of congress to weigh in on this and have the courts decide if it's actually constitutional. i don't think it is. >> but the father-son thing you said, that's not what the president is specifically proposing. just to get into the weeds a little bit, what he said was he would require those individuals who make a living selling guns to register and get licenses and do background checks, whether
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they sell them at gun shows or on the internet or wherever. that wouldn't affect a father-son scenario you just described. >> what does making a living mean? does that mean i sell one gun a year, ten guns a year? people make a living a whole bunch of different ways. it's the ambiguity the president wants to make an end run around the constitution, and the elected officials in this country to enforce his own agenda which the american people do not want. he's had seven long years to get something done on this and he's been an utter failure. so now as a lame duck president he's going to do something as an executive order which i believe the courts will rule unconstitutional. >> let's move on. senator ted cruz said that he like donald trump favors deporting all undocumented immigrants but where donald trump would allow some undocumented citizens back into the united states, ted cruz would not. that's ted cruz's words. take a listen to ted cruz yesterday in iowa.
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>> donald trump is strong on immigration but he supports deporting all illegal immigrants. are you willing to say the same? >> absolutely, yes. we should enforce the law. we should enforce the law. and in fact, look, there's a difference. he's advocated folks to come back in and become citizens. i oppose that. >> so ted cruz is pitching himself to voters as tougher on ill local immigration than donald trump. >> well, with all due respect to senator cruz, i think we know that since mr. trump made his announcement in june that he was going to run for president of the united states, this has been the defining issue of his campaign. if it wasn't for mr. trump people wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration. what he has said from day one is if we don't have a wall, we don't have a border or country any more. we want to deport them and then they'll come back into the country legally. he said very clear lly that has been the case. our country has founded many times on legal immigration coming back in.
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i find it very difficult to believe that senator cruz will not allow people to come back in legally. >> so you're saying he's lying and misrepresenting his position? >> i think he wants to make a clarification. i think what he is trying to allude to and he said that now he's in favor of building a wall or a fence. again, things mr. trump has been very clear about from the beginning as an builder, an an executive. he can get those things done. politicians are really good at talking and not very good at action. >> are you guys going to win iowa? >> i think mr. trump will win iowa, go on to win new hampshire and we'll have the privilege of being the republican nominee. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. there is the ominous music and the slow motion video, and of course the attacks. a bunch of new political ads flooding the air waves. they're next. >> i understand when the mainstream media -- discover card
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turned quite vicious. let's take a look at whose ads are working and whose are not with cnn political comment dart and barack obama's ad guru, before that a chicago describe and political reporter, david axelrod. david, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >> let's start with donald trump's first tv ad, political tv ad. he's putting $2 million behind this in early states, especially iowa. take a look. >> the politicians can pretend it's something else, but donald trump calls it radical islamic terrorism. that's why he's calling for a temporary shutdown of muslims entering the united states until we can figure out what's going on. >> now, a more traditional politician might have started with a bio telling about his business successes. he drove right to the most controversial things he had said. things people even already knew and doubled down. >> well, in a sense it's not what the normal politician would do, but we know he's not the
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normal politician. the last thing he needs is a bio ad because he's been a ubiquitous presence in our living rooms for the last six months and the last 15 years with his television program. donald trump doesn't need that. he went right to those hot button issues that have animated his candidacy, his very harsh position on immigration, his position on barring muslims from the country. these have created arched eyebrows among the elite but they have energized his base and he went right to it in this ad. >> smart politics you think? >> well, i think in terms of energizing his base, it's smart politics. the question with trump has always been where is the ceiling? how much can he get out of that? i think there is a concern in his camp that these people who come to his rallies and express support for him may not be motivated to vote. so i think this is a motivator for his base. >> interesting. senator ted cruz, who's leading in some polls in iowa, he
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released two spots to kick off the new year. one is a cookie cutter direct to camera. the other one spot lights illegal immigration in an interesting way. take a look. >> a bunch of people with journalism degrees were coming over and driving down the wages in the press, then we would see stories about the economic calamity that is befalling our nation. >> thousands of unwashed journalists and bankers and lawyers. >> i think i saw you there, jake? wasn't that you coming across the water? >> that was my body double. >> all running across the border, really making a very interesting point about the way that the elites look at immigration versus the voters he's going for. >> yeah, i think there are 2 elements to this. one is it is a pushback on trump. he doesn't want trump to seize the initiative on these issues. but i think it's also -- and this is also part of the trump appeal. it is very much certifying himself as the anti-establishment candidate.
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he wants to go at those same voters who feel disdain eed by e elites and offended boy ply poll correctness. so this is running in new hampshire. it's an effort to cut into trump's support in new hampshire where cruz is behind. >> and that ad also at one point shows a split screen with cruz on one side and marco rubio on the other. i think it was from the cnn debate. that has to be intentional to use the side-by-side? >> without question. look, one of the subtexts of what's going on now, this whole period is about who's doing what to whom and why. battle going on on the side.ttle rubio is trying to dislodge cruz in iowa and get some of his conservative voters in iowa. cruz is mindful of the fact that rubio is a threat and they're going at each other. this was a subtle reminder that marco rubio had been a supporter of immigration reform before he
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wasn't. >> and new hampshire, of course, is where a lot of the war for the establishment to the nomination is playing out. senator rubio vying for that spot. chris christie strong in new hampshire right now. take a look at this ad from a super pac supporting marco rubio now airing in new hampshire going after christie. >> chris christie could well be obama's favorite republican governor. why? christie's record. he instituted an internet sales tax, supported common core and liberal energy policies. incredibly, christie even backed obamacare's medicaid expansion. >> it could be effective, i think. >> i think it is an effective ad. but christie should have mixed feelings about this. on the one hand this is a real threat to him. on the other hand, he was left for dead after the bridge scandal in new jersey when people had thought he would be a strong contender. he's revived himself in new hampshire and now he's a real threat to crowd out some of the establishment republicans, including marco rubio, so he's
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taking incoming. and the question is will those vulnerabilities that daunted people earlier come back and will christie be deflated as a result of these ads. >> rubio also battling it out with senator ted cruz. take a listen to how a super pac backing cruz is going after rubio. ♪ >> i know i have a debate but i've got to get this fantasy football thing right. okay. >> david, i'll be honest. i kind of scratched my head when i saw this one. rubio just having a light moment for a fake ad he had done about fantasy football. what's the point of this ad? >> i think you have to put it in context, jake. rubio is going after cruz. he's going after cruz on the air and the super pacs are in iowa and elsewhere on the issue of national security and calling cruz weak on national security.
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cruz came back with an ad on national security, and the suggestion is that rubio is too young to be commander in chief, that cruz is the serious guy who can be commander in chief. so i view this as a response spot as much as an attack spot. >> all right, david axelrod, thank you so much. good to see you as always. >> great to see you. more on our politics lead right now. senator bernie sanders today delivering a fiery populist speech about reform wall street. he billed it as a big policy address. he accused big banks of greed, fraud, dishonesty and arrogance. he suggested hillary clinton was the big banks establishment friend, to whom they have awarded generous speaking fees. meanwhile in hillary clinton's camp, one day after her husband, bill, hit the campaign trail in new hampshire, she is barnstorming iowa and that is where we find jeff with her in sioux city. has secretary clinton reacted to bernie sanders' speech today?
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>> reporter: jake, she has not reacted directly. she's just arrived here in sioux city just a few moments ago and is taking the stage. earlier today she did not respond to sanders at all. it's something she's not done throughout the course of her campaigning here. if you listen to some of her speeches at her events here, you might think that she's already in the general election. but bernie sanders will have something to say about that. he delivered a very strong speech in new york, like you said. it's touching some of those strains that are really coursing through this democratic electorate here, some of these populist strains. and he called her out directly. he said she's too close to wall street. >> secretary clinton says we just need to impose a few more fees and regulations on the financial industry. i disagree. the culture of fraud and corruption on wall street. under my administration, wall street ceos will no longer
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receive a get out of jail free card. [ applause ] not only will big banks not be too big to fail, but big-time bankers will not be too big to jail. >> reporter: now that is a mezage that resonates with democrats here in new hampshire as well as in iowa. they really are liking what bernie sanders has to say. but jake, the real question is what does senator sanders do after that? the clinton campaign is trying to play the long game here. she's trying to convince people that she is the best republican -- she's the best democrat to defeat a republican. in fact she says bluntly i'm
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your last line of defense against a republican winning the white house but iowa voters will have the final say in this in just 27 days here at the iowa caucuses. >> jeff, thank you so much. coming up, those armed protesters in oregon vowing to use their guns if needed, so why isn't law enforcement doing anything to stop them? but first, an emotional plea from the president as he unveils his new efforts to curtail gun violence. >> every time i think about those kids, it gets me mad. got allstate, right? uh-huh. yes. well, i found this new thing called allstate quickfoto claim. it's an app. you understand that? you just take photos of the damage with your phone and upload them to allstate. really? so you get a quicker estimate, quicker payment, quicker back to normal. i just did it. but maybe you can find an app that will help you explain this to your father. quickfoto claims. just another way allstate is changing car insurance for good.
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welcome back to "the lead."
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i'm jake tapper. topping our national lead today, president obama, flanked by families who have lost loved ones to gun violence unveiled his plans today for executive actions for further restrictions on the sale of firearms. common sense steps, the president called them, saying they will save lives. republicans are blasting the plan, calling it an abuse of presidential authority and an assault on the second amendment. let's get right to cnn's jim acosta live at the white house. jim, the president got very, very emotional today, crying as he spoke about the 20 first graders killed in the sandy hook mass shooting. >> reporter: that's right, jake. not something you see every day, the president weeping openly here at the white house, taking aim at what he's called the biggest frustration of his time in office, that is the inability to pass gun control. president obama is going around congress to tighten up the nation's background check system. it was perhaps the most emotional speech president obama has ever given in office.
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first embracing the crowd of mass shooting victims and their families on hand and then openly crying as he made the case for new executive actions on gun control. >> from first graders in newtown. >> reporter: the president woipd away tears as he described as his saddest day in office, the slaughter of 20 first graders and six adults in the school shooting. >> every time i think about those kids, it gets me mad. and by the way, it happens on the streets of chicago every da day. >> reporter: under the president's new executive actions, a warning to nearly all gun sellers to conduct background checks or risk prosecution. plus new fbi or atf agents, $500 million for mental health care. to hammer home the argument he was joined by the father of daniel barden, who died at sandy hook. >> as a nation we have to do
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better. we are better. we're better than this. >> reporter: and former congresswoman gabby giffords who was nearly killed by a mass shooter five years ago. her husband, mark kelly, is now a leader of victims' families. >> it's almost like you're a community of people now. >> we are. for unbelievable devastating circumstances. so it's not a community that people wanting to belong to. just leave it at that. you don't want to be invited into that club. >> reporter: the new executive action stopped short of a law man dating universal background checks across the country. the president blamed the nra and republicans in congress for that. >> so the gun lobby may be holding congress hostage right now, but they cannot hold america hostage. >> reporter: the nra said the proposed executive actions are ripe for abuse by the obama administration which has made no secret of its contempt for the second amendment. speaker paul ryan says rather than focus on criminals and terrorists, he goes after the most law-abiding of citizens.
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his words and actions amount to a form of intimidation that undermines liberty. >> he's obsessed with undermining the second amendment. he's obsessed with burdening law-abiding citizens who will follow the law, no matter what it is. >> the white house says that's pure politics. >> i believe in the second amendment. it's there, written on the paper. it guarantees a right to bear arms. no matter how many times people try to twist my words around. >> reporter: but president obama has been good for gun sales. consider the stock prices since president obama was first elected into office. smith & wesson up 808%, apple 342%, google up 352%. much of the president's ability to enforce these new actions is spending the money to hire new investigators at the atf and fbi. republicans have said the
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president should enforce the existing gun laws and the white house says gop lawmakers can now put their money where their mouth is. joining me now in studio, sandy and lonnie phillips, the parents of jessica who was killed in the aurora movie theater massacre in 2012. thanks for joining us. i know i speak for everyone here and everyone watching that we say our thoughts and prayers are with you. what a horrible ordeal and how strong you must be. first of all, let me just ask what was it like to be in that room today? >> well, you know, we've been working at this for almost four years now. so to be in the room with the president addressing these issues that we have seen for ourselves needing to be addressed and see him take the moral leadership to actually cry and share with us, half the room were victims and survivors. and to share tears with us because we cry every day still and always will.
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so for him to have the moral leadership and the courage to state his purposes and share tears with us and the nation was quite moving. >> let me ask you, and i hate to resist the horrible day, but you want change and you want meaningful change. when you look at what happened in aurora, do you know of in ipla -- any place where the system should be improved? the shooter bought his four guns legally. where are the weak links in the chain that would have stopped or prevented aurora. >> i'll let lonnie answer part of that. >> i don't know if you're aware, but we did sue the ammunition sellers. >> right. >> and we did not lose that case, it was thrown out. it was thrown out because of the protection of legal commerce -- >> the immunity that gun manufacturers and ammunition manufacturers have. >> of course that could have stopped it. there's so many ways to stop it.
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one of the ways they could have stopped it, what he put in place today, what he talked about today was the mentally ill. now, we all know that only 4% of the mentally ill are violent, or less. but our daughter would be alive today if that had been in place where the laws would have allowed his psychiatrist to put him on the system. >> and let's talk about that. first of all, we should state that the mentally ill are far more likely to be victims of violence than they are to perpetrate violence. >> absolutely. >> but the psychiatrist who treated the shooter in aurora before the incident, for months before the incident was so alarmed about things he said and things he did, including telling her that he had homicidal thoughts several times a day, she alerted officials of the university of colorado. she even alerted the shooter's mother. but because he had not named a specific target, as you know, she was not allowed to legally institutionalize him against his
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will for 72 hours. should that change? should that part of the law change? >> absolutely. absolutely, it needs to change. and in california -- state to state they are addressing some of these issues. in california now you can step in if you're a loved one of someone who is spiraling out of control and seems to be a danger to others or themselves and actually have them committed to a state hospital for 72 hours and have their weapons taken away from them and held until they process through. and hopefully get on the other side of the treatment that they need. >> in the time we have left, and it's not enough time and it never will be, but tell us about jessica. >> jessie was everything in the world to us and still is. we've been fighting this in her honor. we have jessie's message, our 501 c 3. we live in a camper and travel to work with other victims and survivors of violence and
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hopefully get them to advocate in their communities, grassroots. >> where can people find out more about your organization? >> it's not a web page, it's through a san antonio area foundation and it's jessie's message and that's where it is. >> google it and you'll find it. >> well, we're thinking about her today and thank you so much for your strength and for coming here and talking to us. >> thank you. >> thanks for having us. >> this programming note. president obama will join with cnn's anderson cooper for a town hall on the subject of guns in america and you can watch it right here on cnn thursday night at 8:00 eastern. a new supercar to rival tesla and a smart mirror which can tell you before you get something on your face you don't want to be on your face. the future of tech, coming up. across america, people...
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world lead. one u.s. service member has been killed and two others injured. it happened during a joint u.s./afghan operation that is going on right now about 400 miles southwest of the capital of kabul and that's where afghan troops are locked in a fierce battle against the taliban. let's get right to jim sciutto who's tracking the story. the u.s. has sent in a quick reaction force. what are you learning? >> clearly it's still hot on the ground and has been for several hours. so hot when they attempted to extract the soldier killed in action and two others wounded on the scene, that medevac helicopter initially reports were was hit by mortar fire. as it turns out, as it was landing, its rotor hit a wall, too damaged to take off. another medevac helicopter that came to rescue the wounded was in effect warned away because of fire on the ground. if you're sending in a qrf now, you know there's still a
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firefight under way. >> what role are u.s. forces playing during this operation and during this raid? >> they say this is part of this very large umbrella that we talk a lot in afghanistan and iraq of advise and assist mission. now, this can encompass any number of things and the definition has been stretched by this administration as to what those forces do. our understanding is this was a counterterror operation. this is a taliban heavy area. they have been entrenched there for years and this was a joint operation between u.s. and afghan forces that came under fire. they're still coming under fire. we talk a lot about this. there's still a war under way in afghanistan. there's still thousands of u.s. troops there. they're not just doing force protection, they're doing offensive missions like this one, usually in conjunction with afghan forces. >> and that's always the question about this joint u.s./afghan operations. while unquestionably there are strong and qualified afghan troops and commanders, the
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question about whether they are up to the task of actually take on the taliban, whether they have the military capability, is always in question, and whether or not the u.s. is actually leading these mission, four or five soldiers with a platoon of afghans. >> and to be fair there's often a lot of fudging of the details. who's in the lead? well, we were just in the rear. but clearly that help helps, right? i'll hear from u.s. forces and i'm sure you've heard as well that afghan forces fight bravely, they take risks, et cetera. but as you know as well, u.s. special forces are pretty good at what they do. so when they're together, those forces are often stronger but that, as we know, this president and others have said those forces can't be there forever. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much. the u.s. is closely watching adds more middle east countries take sides in this escalating standoff between the two muslim superpowers in the middle east. on one side of the gulf you have iran. on the other side of the gulf you have now kuwait joining the list of countries backing the
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big rival, saudi arabia. kuwait and other countries cutting or coming close to cutting ties with iran. the tension, of course, is sectarian and goes back centuries, sunni versus shia, but it intensified this past weekend when saudi arabia executed a prominent shiite cleric. now iran says all of this is actually a zionist conspiracy. cnn's nic robertson is in saudi arabia's capital city of riyadh. nic, the rhetoric on both sides not helping at all. >> reporter: jake, there's no sign that the tension between these two major powers in this region is backing off. you have the iranian president today accusing the saudis of committing a crime by executing the shia cleric. the saudis say that he was fermenting terrorism here in saudi arabia. the saudis have cut economic ties with iran, they have stopped flights between the two countries. they say religious pilgrims who come to visit the holy sites
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here can still come but what you're seeing across the region, saudi arabia is getting more backing. kuwait today cutting diplomatic ties with iran. they sjoin sudan and bahrain, te united arab emirates withdrawing their ambassador from iran. saudi arabia is getting more backing. there's no sense that i'm getting from officials that i'm talking to here that these tensions are going to come down any time soon. they see iran as meddling in saudi arabia's internal affairs. they also feel the pressure of iran on their borders. yemen to the south where there's an ongoing fight there, there's an ongoing war with the houthis. they feel the iranians are backing the houthis. to the north as well, iraq and syria. saudi arabia really feels that pressure at the moment. they also feel that they're being more isolated in the region from their old ally, the united states. they see the united states cutting this nuclear deal with
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iran. they feel more isolated. they beefed up their army, beefed up their forces over the recent few years. what we have witnessed in the execution of this shia cleric who they say is a terrorist, we're seeing a much tougher line taken by the saudis. undoubtedly they knew that this was going to cause increased tensions in the region. jake. >> nic robertson in row yaiyadh saudi arabia, thank you. an armed gang refusing to give up. the leader of the group saying he's being treated like a terrorist. what's his next move? what about law enforcement? plus how about an ultra high definition television that you can roll up like a blanket? the newest gadgets just revealed, next.
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welcome back to "the lead." in our national lead an armed anti-u.s. government gang continues to occupy a federal building in oregon. that takeover is going to day four and those men and women who have seized that building are not budging. the self-styled citizens of constitutional freedom say they are in it for the long haul to restore and defend the constitution. meanwhile, law enforcement authorities are being especially careful not to provoke them, especially because some of the guys with guns have been very clear that they're not afraid to use them. let's go to princeton, oregon, to paul vercamen. you spoke with the leader of this gang moments ago. have they specified their demands? what did they have to say? >> reporter: they have to a degree and yet it's still murky, jake. what they're saying is they are
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really upset with the bureau of land management and other government agencies. they feel there's been a vast land grab and they want to see if they can't return federal government land back to private owners and this means going back decades if they have to. now, by the same token we're talking about the stance that ammon bundy has taken here. he wanted to clarify that he is not anti-government. well, he should know. that's because in 2010 his trucking business received more than a half million dollar small business loan from who else but the federal government. he talked about that. >> i am not anti-government. i understand and believe and all those that are here understand and believe that there is a role for government and that the federal government's role is to protect the states from the outside world. >> so what do you say to a critic who says that's
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hypocrisy, you taking a loan. >> i believe there are roles for the federal government to play. that was an sba loan. i took that loan and that was an effort in assisting the people in using their rights. >> reporter: and the dozen or so people who are left inside this reserve on this protest, they say they will stay for as long as it takes to get what they want. jake? >> the fbi, paul, is working with the state police and with the local sheriff's deputies to try to resolve this without any violence. have they explained what their strategies are to end this takeover peacefully? >> reporter: no, jake, they haven't explained anything other than actions speak louder than words. we'll call this strategy apathy and ice. it's cold out here, subfreezing temperatures. i think that they believe that they can just wait these people out. and by apathy, i mean there is not an officer in sight. we haven't seen any for miles.
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30, 40 miles. not a county -- sheriff's deputies or anybody else, or an fbi agent. clearly the idea is to stay away, jake. >> thank you so much. our money lead now, what's the thing you live just fine without in 2015 but you will not be able to live without in 2016 and beyond? well, the future is here. the consumer electronics show is launching in las vegas and we're getting a sneak peek at some of the pieces of tech that were once just a pipe dream. like, for instance, a smart mirror. it looks at you and can tell you things like whether you need to hydrate or whether there is a zit in your future or how about lg's new 18-inch high definition screen that you can roll up like a newspaper. samuel burke joins us live from las vegas. samuel, there is a super secret car there, i understand, that hopes to make tesla even a thing of the past? >> reporter: jake, ces, the c is supposed to stand for consumer
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but i wonder if it stands for car or maybe even china. there has been this mysterious company backed by a chinese multi billionaire competing against tesla trying to pluck away talent, getting them from audi, bmw and tesla. last night they had their big unveil and now this company has everybody buzzing. they grabbed the first headline here at ces. it's just a concept car from now. but i just took a trip from phoenix to san diego for $30 for a full tank of gas. it's hard to see how these electric car companies will become viable in the short term. they're not making profits. but long term people are hopeful for what they can do for the environment. >> samuel, over winter break i saw about 9,000 vines and various photographs of people falling off those hoverboards that were supposed to be the latest permutation of the future. anything to replace those
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exploding hoverboards? >> reporter: everything is talking about it here. they say people want alternate modes of transportation, including this smart skateboard from blink. i just had my appendix out so i don't want to end up back in the hospital. $499 will get you this smart skateboard that goes 5 to 6 miles. the companies have learned, yes, people wanting alternate modes of transportation but you can't use cheap lithium batteries or they will explode. my mom will be very happy. >> your mom will be happy when you stop riding that skateboard, samuel. that has me worried for you. thank you so much. appreciate your time. coming up, new clues into the identity of the masked murderer with a british accent featured in the latest isis propaganda videos. who is this person?
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happening now, tears and anger. president obama cries as he recalls the victims of mass shootings and expresses frustration at the country's failure to curb gun violence. will his new gun control actions make a difference? missing movements. what were the san bernardino terrorists doing after their bloody massacre and before their final shootout with law enforcement? tonight, the fbi is asking the public for help filling in the blanks. firefight, conflicting reports right now about a bloody clash in afghanistan which has left a u.s. service member dead and a helicopter down on the ground. what went wrong? and vicious sid? a former british bounce house