tv CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield CNN January 9, 2016 9:00am-10:01am PST
hello sgagain, everyone. we're watching developing news out of germany. thousands of demonstrators filling the streets of cologne. police using water cannons to break up rallies. authorities say out of the mob, 31 people identified in the attacks, 18 of them are refugees, they say. cnn's correspondent atika shubert is live for us now in cologne where it is now nightfall. people in large numbers are
still out, atika? >> reporter: well, actually, most demonstrators have gone home. police have pretty effectively been able to get them back onto their trains and cool off. they are able to make their final statements. we heard, as they were leaving, a number of white ring protesters saying to the police, where mp you on new year's eve? why didn't you protect these women from these assaults? a lot of the anger today was vented at police. there are about 2,000 officers on the streets. they were able to keep control, however, and get people home safely without it breaking out into too much violence. this is going to be a challenge going ahead. people here are very angry. what they see as a loss of control by the police and also the refugee policy, right-wing protesters saying it's making the country unsafe and this is why they say there should be an end to migration and allowing refugees in, fredericka.
>> okay. even angela merkel is chiming in now after having been a great advocate for asylum seekers, saying there has to be tougher regulations as it pertains to their entry. >> reporter: that's right. she's been saying for some time germany allows refugees. they must prove they come from a war-torn country or suffering political persecution. once in germany, they must abide by german law. anybody who breaks those laws, commits a crime faces deportation. they addressed members of her own party saying what happened on new year's eve on this square must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. this is the problem. there are 30 suspects identified, half of them are asylum seekers.
the criminal complaints that happened in this square has risen to 379, according to cologne police. so far, only a handful of people have been arrested. many people here very angry the perpetrators have not been brought to justice yet. >> keep us posted. he's worth $4 billion and says he's responsible for thousands of death. this afternoon mexico is urgently deciding what to do with the drug king pen known as el chapo. he's behind bars, in mexico city that he broke out last july. then today we're getting new details about the dramatic raid that led to his capture. authorities say el chapo and an aide escaped through a manhole during a shootout. you're looking at video now. they were finally arrested on a nearby highway. i'm talking about el chapo.
rafael romo joins us with more on this. authorities had been watching him. he kind of made himself known because of his pure suits to become even more famous and then this incredible capture. >> that's right. attorney general said last night during a press conference that back in the month of october, mexican intelligence officers started following el chapo because of communications between his attorneys and el chapo. what they were doing, according to the attorney general, they were trying to get in touch with mexican film producers and accesses because el chapo, listen to this, wanted to have a movie made about himself so he got reckless, ego-centric and that led authorities to his hiding place on friday morning where the raid was conducted and eventually he was caught by the mexican navy.
>> this exemp fshows he had an plan. a man with millions and has all these protections and then covered with soot. he still had an escape plan but this time it didn't work. >> he should be called mr. tunnel. he escaped in a tunnel in january. this time around he use aid manhole to get into the drain system. while there was a shootout in which the armed forces were trying to penetrate the house where he is, he was escaping with one of his lieutenants and he got as far away as stealing a car, driving out of town and he was stopped outside the city on a highway by mexican soldiers but just to give you an idea of the fact that he not only had a plan "a" but a plan "b" until he was caught by soldiers.
>> we're just looking at video that took you back six months ago and then more current images. just a reminder of how he was able to get out of that prison six months ago, bathroom in his own cell. we saw video of the tunnel that helped him escape. fast forward, you talk about conversation between his attorney, he and his attorney and mexican producers and actresses and now his attorney, complicit, arrested. what about that? >> not only his attorney. there's a number of people that were implicated in building the tunnel. the mile-long tunnel he used back in july. there was a guy in charge of buying the land needed to build a tunnel. >> the farmland, what we thought was farmland. >> one guy funded the whole project. another guy that delivered the
fund. there was an attorney -- two pilots, one of which helped him escape. one was a plan "b," by the way. one was the pilot that flew him out of that part of mexico. the attorney general said all of these people have already been arrested. as a matter of fact, there's 34 people who have been arrested in connection with the latest escape and the case is not over yet. that gives you an idea of the level of sophistication he had and the level of resources. >> incredible network. thank you so much. so much to talk about because one has to wonder. everyone is wondering, is he going to be -- we'll talk again. thank you. in this country, a philadelphia cop ambushed and shot in the name of isis. coming up, new information in the investigation and the search for ties to terror organizations. staying in rhythm... it's how i try to live... how i stay active.
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the gun inside the car, firing at least 11 shots, hitting the officer three times in the left arm. >> shots fired! i'm shot. i'm bleeding heavily. >> incredibly, the police officer not only survived, he chased his attacker down, shooting him in the butt, stopping him all while pleading profusely. his left arm unusable. speaking to the dispatcher all at the same time. >> we have an officer down. >> the grace of god, first and foremost, because i can't explain it based on my belief and any other way. but under those circumstances, man, i can't imagine that almost anything you could have could protect you. that is chilling. absolutely chilling when you watch that. and if that doesn't just make the hairs on your neck just raise when you see that, it's scary. >> police say the attacker used a handgun stolen from police in 2013 and confessed he was inspired by isis. >> he pledges his allegiance to
islamic state. he follows alla'a and that is the reason he was called upon to do this. >> authorities now digging into the life and past of 30-year-old edward archer. >> according to him, he believed that the police defend laws that are contrary to the teachers of the koran. >> police tried to determine how deeply, if at all, he's tied to international terror groups. >> now, archer is recovering in the hospital behind me. he was hit in the arm three times. one going through the bone, the other one severing the artery. the other one suffering substantial nerve damage to the arm. it will be some time before he'll be able to fully realize his health. it's still a question whether he'll return full time to the police. he's a tough guy. everybody in this town and many people across the country, i'm sure, pulling for him all the way. meanwhile, the investigators continue to look into the past and the present of edward
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welcome back. we have worked out our technical problems 37 thank y problems. we're hearing for the first time with the man charged with supporting isis. 24-year-old omar faraj hardan is accused of providing resources and materials to isis for a year. his wife insists he's done nothing wrong. >> i'm not good because my husband in jail. my son not good. he just cry. he need his dad. my phone, my ipad, everything is taken. i don't know why. he do nothing. he love america. >> he and his accused accomplice are middle east refugees. pamela brown has more on the charges against them.
>> reporter: the fbi says this man seen walking into federal court is omar al h. ardan, an iraqi refugee living in texas, who conspired with isis, and another man from texas. his alleged associate, 23-year-old al jayab came to syria from a syrian refugee camp in 2012. he was allowed back into the united states again in 2014, according to court documents. the arrest further fueling the debate about whether the refugee screening process is rigorous enough as u.s. considers allowing in at least 10,000 syrian refugees over the next ten years. >> i think it's time to tell the american people the real story about the refugee program and what a threat and how dangerous it can be to the safety of american lives.
>> reporter: the criminal complaint says the two men communicated with each other online about traveling to syria. in one exchange in 2013, al hardan asks, what, what kind of job will they assign me to? al jayab says, you'll be trained. he also said, i'm eager to see blood. the fbi says both men later lied to federal immigration officials, denying any ties to terrorism. >> it demonstrates the point that the vetting process needs to be enhanced before we start bringing in more of these refugees. if these two guys got through the kraction, how many more are out there. >> reporter: homeland security secretary jeh johnson admits there's always risks in refugees. >> we do have to be concerned about the possibility that a terrorist organization may seek to exploit our refugee resettlement process. that's true of this country.
that's true of every other country that accepts refugees. that is why we have in place a very thorough, multilayered process for evaluation of refugees. >> reporter: this is not the only case of iraqi refugees being arrested on terrorism charges. around five years ago, two iraqi refuse geese were arrested in kentucky after their fingerprints were found on bombs in iraq used against u.s. soldiers. hundreds of thousands of refugees have been allowed into the u.s. since 2001 and only a handful have been arrested on terrorism charges. pamela brown, cnn, atlanta. >> joining me now is cnn national security correspondent julia. do these illustrate there's a law in the process of vetding for u.s. refugees? >> i think any case like this is
going to require for us to ex -- ironically, most of the cases involve people who are already here and have been here for some time and even those who are not syrian refugees. last couple of weeks, there's no standard blueprint for these who guys are. obviously, an assessment of whether the refugee standards are strong enough needs to be taken by the administration, but the idea that this would justify closing our doors, the numbers are just not there yet. in fact, the reality is that this arrest occurred is a good sign the fbi is monitoring a lot of these people. >> juliette, if the argument is made like we heard from mike mccall, the vetting process, there needs to be changes, overhaul it, changes, et cetera, what would be some of those
measures that would be taken into consideration that aren't already? >> well, i think what you've seen, the concerns about the syrian refugee crisis is obviously greater database assessments by whoever is coming in, and particularly men, that's the reality we live in, men between the ages of 18 and 25 years old. there will have to be validation of their previous travel, and once allowed in, a stronger review and surveillance of them and their travel once allowed in, because they may go to turkey to visit family, given what we know about where the syrians are heading now. a lot of people up in turkey but to ensure that it is, in fact, turkey they're visiting. i'm pretty confident these systems are rigorous. just how few people are coming in through the refugee process. there's only going to be about 10,000.
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>> that's what happened. 56-year-old rose hamid, stood up as donald trump was talking, now you see her being escorted out and there are boos and jeers. she spoke with us about her experience and what people were saying to her. there's an exchange verbally and she explains what was said. >> you know, i don't know if he really knows what muslims stand for and i don't think that -- i don't even think he believes in the rhetoric that he's spewing. i think he's just saying stuff to get attention and to get numbers up. my purpose for going there was i have this sincere belief that if people get to know each one one-on-one, they'll stop being afraid of each other and we'll be able to get rid of the hate,
literally. that was my goal, to let people see that muslims are not that scary. and the people around me were lovely. there was people who were very nice. they were sharing their popcorn. it was very nice people all around me. the people i had conversations with. but then what happened when the crowd got this, like, hateful crowd mentality, as i was being escorted, it was really quite telling and a vivid example of what happens when you start using this hateful rhetoric and how it can incite a crowd. one guy was saying, get out. do you have a bomb? do you have a bomb? i said, no, do you have a bomb? they were saying ugly, ugly things. one guy was saying, god is great. and he said, jesus loves. you the thing is, people don't even know what they're saying. they get riled up in the
hate-mongering and they don't even know what they're saying. >> joining me with the latest is cnn analyst sara murray. donald trump is expected to speak on the stage behind you in a bit. has anyone in that arena said anything about what happened involving ms. hamid? >> reporter: no. we're not hearing a lot about what happened last night. i was say, look, it is pretty traditional for there to be protesters at trump events. it's possible we'll see more today. it certainly kept the trump staffers on their toes because trump's rhetoric has been divisive to a lot of people. when you talk about where we are today, ottumwa, iowa, a white city, but growing hispanic population, 12%, which is very big for iowa. there will be some people in town who won't be happy to hear about trump's message about building a wall along the
southern border and illegal immigration. he's expected to take questions. he told a local radio station we can expect that from him today. >> so, you said, you know, the trump campaign, they're used to protests, used to people making statements even at his events. how were you seeing measures of security reflected at what could be -- and today? >> reporter: we're seeing standard level. he has secret service protection. we have that today. they screened everyone who comes in. i would say his most ruckus events take place in the south not places like iowa or new hampshire. these are voters very used to seeing presidential candidates, used to being able to question presidential candidates. ted cruz is in the state right now making stops. it's a big deal that trump makes
two stops. he's stepping up his presence a little bit. i think it's impossible for anyone to say, i guarantee there will be no protesters. it's been very difficult for staffers to weed those out. for now it's a mellow crowd. everyone is sitting down, waiting for the candidate. >> saur ra murray, thanks much. we'll check back in with you. on february 1st voters in iowa will hold their caucuses, making it the first state in the nation to officially vote for presidential candidate. with just 22 days now left until that contest, presidential hopeful are hitting the presidential campaign even harder in hopes to clinch the win. joining me now is carol hunter. the senior news director for "the des moines register" newspaper. it's been on record that donald trump is not a fan of "the des moines register." let's talk about the polling and
what you're learning from the voters in that area, this brand-new fox news poll showing ted cruz in the lead over trump in iowa by four percentage points. "the des moines register's" latest poll in early december has cruz ahead of trump by ten points. this quinnipiac poll that came out right after the register's poll has trump in the lead but barely, running neck and neck with cruz. as an iowa insider, how much credence is there in the polls? i know i'm asking you to re-evaluate your own newspaper's polling but how much of a reflexes is it of voters you've been in contact with? >> good to be with you. it's going to be so interesting to see how this shakes out with ted cruz and donald trump. the polls clearly show them in the lead by quite a margin over all the other candidates. we did have donald trump behind
farther than some other polls have shown him but it's still a lot of time to go voters in iowa often make their decision. in our poll in early december, two-thirds of republican caucus goers said they could be persuaded to vote for another candidate, even if they had a first place choice. this is very wide open. >> >> we know traditionally voters very savvy. what have been the express concerns from iowans as. pertains to the tone of this race, as it pertains to the gop and how that might influence that caucusing. >> our legal political reporter jennifer jacobs has a report out just this morning from the focus
group that frank luntz conducted with iowans and it showed a fourth of the people there had quite a bit of concerns by donald trump. a handful said they were so repelled by donald trump that they wouldn't mind if hillary clinton won the general election. that's something for a republican to say. frank luntz was quite surprised by that finding. so, we could see kind of an anti-trump wave build that's not usual to see. usually people go to the polls to vote for someone. we might be seeing that. >> hillary clinton leading bernie sanders, 48% to 39% in "the des moines register's" latest poll. clinton leading sanders 48% to 39% in the latest quinnipiac poll. martin o'malley trailing both of them in the single digit
percentile. despite clinton's lead in the polls, does bernie still have a chance in iowa? now put on the hat. >> what will be so interesting is whether the enthusiasm clearly there for bernie sanders will translate on caucus night. he had people come out to see him in cedar rapids yesterday. caucusing is different from a primary. have you to go out on a single night. it's about 10 degrees here in in today. if it's that cold on caucus night, maybe some of those enthusiasm voters will stay home
for bernie sanders and they'll go to hillary clinton. >> i didn't think that super cold whether was any deter rent for any iowan. >> we're pretty used to it being pretty cold here. >> go ahead. >> it is a commitment to caucus. they're different beasts. republicans and democrats are making a big effort to get voters out. turnout in the end will be a big factor. >> indeed it will. appreciate it. let's talk more about the campaign trail. republican campaign candidate ted cruz sitting down face to face with cnn addressing immigration and the questions on his american citizenship. >> carly fiorina saying the other day that she says it's odd that it wasn't until 2014 that you renounced your dual citizenship. you said you didn't even know about it until dallas morning
news wrote the story in 2013. did you ever go back after that dallas morning news story and try to find out more about your parents' time in canada? did they vote in canada? >> my mother didn't because she was a u.s. citizen. my mother -- look, the internet has all sorts of fevered sense. my mother is an american citizen. she's never been a citizen of any other place. >> don't miss jake tapper's full interview with ted cruz on cnn's "state of the union" tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. r, it can be a burden. but what if you could wake up to lower blood sugar? imagine loving your numbers. discover once-daily invokana®. with over 6 million prescriptions and counting, it's the #1 prescribed sglt2 inhibitor
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city hall released on new year's eve are allegations, unproven as yet, that witnesses to laquan mcdonald's shooting were coerced by police and their sworn statements altered when they refused to say what the police wanted. cnn's rosa flores is following details. >> reporter: chicago police detained witnesses for hours, threatened them and asked them to change their stories about what they saw when officer jason van dyke shot and killed laquan mcdonald. all these allegations made by mcdonald's family attorneys and learned by cnn while scouring through more than 3,000 pages of e-mails obtained through a freedom of information request. >> there were at least three eyewitnesss that were in the drive-through of the burger king that were taken to a police station, separated, put in different rooms, and interviewed. by police detectives, sergeants, lieutenants. >> reporter: mcdonald family
attorney says one of those witnesses, a truck driver, told investigators he saw, quote, an execution. another allegedly started screaming, stop shooting. and after hours of interrogation and no sign of release, he says, police asked witnesses to changes their story. >> code of silence, thin blue wall, that's an accurate description here. >> reporter: statements state that witnesses and police officers on scene either didn't see the shooting or saw what van dyke alleged, that mcdonald raised his knife at van dyke, attempting to kill him. the release of the shooting video would later poke holes in his story. the city of chicago responded in a statement saying the police action surrounding this shooting are under investigation by the u.s. department of justice for possible criminal charges. and by the city inspector
general for possible disciplinary action. the public deserves answers to a number of important questions in this case and we eagerly await the findings of those investigations. jason van dyke faces first-degree murder charges and pleaded not guilty. the mcdonald family attorney says he's in contact with witnesses and at least one has testified before a grand jury. now, let's make one thing very clear. no other police officer has been charged, but we do know that there's an ongoing federal investigation. rosa flores, cnn, chicago. >> let's talk more about this with our guys. richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor joining us from las vegas. good to see you as well. so, gentlemen, this really is a really complex case, isn't it? i wonder, avery, how much will
it make a difference potentially if this was an intentional cover-up or whether this is a subtle unconscious kind of cover-up. >> well, i think this is profound, fredericka. the release the 3,000 pages presents is whether this imps all the way up the line. what's very interesting here, city of chicago is not telling you who those witnesses are. the lawyers for the mcdonald family aren't telling you who those witnesses are. we can glean from the records some inconsistencies, but at the end of the day, we need to get our hands on these people to find out what's going on. some are appearing before a grand jury, but for purposes of what's reporting what's going on, we don't know what's going on, we haven't investigated them and that's what the next step should be. >> richard, yes, this is coming, the sentiment from the family attorney who says this is the information that they have, but
at what point does the city of chicago, the police department, have to answer to this outside of any kind of grand jury huddle? >> well, they're being investigated by department of justice, fred. listen, you have to understand this has nothing to do with the van dyke prosecution. this officer is going to be convicted during his case. there is no defense to his case. the video is crystal clear and when you have video evidence like that, it's like when you're in court and the government plays a recording or surveillance recording of your client and then say say, cross-examination, there's nos to cross-examine. it's devastating. the web cam video is devastating. take another step because there's another game now and that is, perhaps, obstruction and cover-up by the city of chicago. and it really looks like -- fred, it looks really, really bad these are witness summaries, not sworn statements, and you have testify, allegations by
eyewitnesss who were told, flee the scene, get out of here, you didn't see it that way, leave. if this is how it went down, fred, it's going to go to the top because i've got to believe rahm emanuel, a hands-on leader of the city of chicago, had to have known what was going on. >> big assumption. >> but it is bigger than -- while there is one police officer, to underscore what you're saying, there is one police officer being charged, it is bigger than that, right, because potentially it might mean there would be other officers who could be charged, obstruction or otherwise, like you said, richard, but then wouldn't the outcome potentially of an investigation that stems from these kinds of documents or accusations that people were coerced, bullied, et cetera, then mean that other cases could potentially be impacted, meaning a comparison of where other
cases where the same kind of thing could have potentially happened? >> i absolutely agree with that. bottom line is you have potential intimidation, attempted intimidation, conspiracy to contribute to these intimidation acts as well as obstruction. what this disclosure requires is looking more closely to see how far this goes. i don't know how one can assume how rahm emanuel knows all the details of this. i think that's a question. but we need to get the evidence to find out what's going on. yes, it is -- will have a profound effect on the community, on the police department, on the operation. that's why i've consistently said, you've got to get the department in there. they have to look into it. we've got to get to the truth here. >> think of the jury pool right now. think of the news. every day the newspaper in chicago, police officers were manipulating, bullying, can you
imagine picking a jury in this case right now? the city of chicago has to be up in arms over this. and it's nowhere near the end. and if you think rahm emanuel signed off on a $5 million settlement by the city, had to have been the largest settlement by the city of chicago to pay in a case like this, and he didn't actually view the videotape or get a detailed analysis of that videotape and wait until after the election cycle to release that to the public, come on, fred, this is really, really -- this stinks, it reeks in the city of chicago, long investigation. a lot of heads are going to fly in the end. >> we have to leave it there in the end. i know we, avery, richard, you and i are going to be talking about this because it's just the tip of the iceberg and it's now just hit a whole other level with these latest accusations. avery friedman, richard herman, good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. straight ahead, did president obama change any minds
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tuesday's state of the union address to represent victims of the gun violence. president obama spoke candidly at a historic town hall airing right here on cnn. >> our position is consistently mischaracterized. by the way, there's a reason why the nra is not here. you think they'd be prepared to have a debate with the president. >> they haven't been to the white house in three years. >> we've invited them. >> i know they wouldn't have stopped people here in this room from killing. >> why can't your administration see these restrictions you're putting in to make it harder for me to own a gun or harder for me to take that where i need it to
be is making my kids and i less safe. >> how do we get those with mental illness and criminals, that's the real problem here, how do we get them to follow the laws? >> crime is always going to be with us. so i think it's really important for us not to suggest that if we can't solve every crime, we shouldn't try to solve any crimes. >> every time i think about those kids it gets me mad. >> i think a lot of people were surprised by that moment. >> i was too, actually. it's the first time i've seen secret service cry on duty. this conspiracy -- >> is it fair to call this a conspiracy? people don't -- >> yes, it is fair to call it a conspiracy. what are you saying? are you suggesting that the
notion that we are creating a plot to take everybody's guns away so that we can impose marshal law is a conspiracy? yes, that is a conspiracy. we can do better than we're doing right now f we come together. thank you. >> thank you very much for your time. >> i'm joined by mark carmen, who was at the white house on tuesday for the president's speech on executive action, which took place a couple days before that town hall that you saw here on cnn and skid mark a gun owner. you didn't vote for the president in the last elections but are you an advocate for some of the movement he would like to see happen as it pertains to gun ownership. mark is the founder for american coalition for responsible gun ownership. good to see you again. >> good to see you, fredericka. so, tell me what that was like to be with the president on
tuesday, to see how emotional he was, where he would like to see this country as it pertains to the responsibility of gun ownership. and how his feelings were expressed. we're seeing your selfie camera point of view at that event on tuesday. >> well, thank you for starting with that question. as i said, i didn't voted for the president. we may not agree on all things politically, but i believe he is a decent and honorable man. what i saw in that room the other day that has been really spoken of as much is that room wasn't filled up with a lot of politicians. that room was filled with people who are victims, who are survivors. the family members of those who have been killed due to gun
violence, from mass shootings as well as the one off at the bus stop where one of my friends that i've come to know there, her son was standing at the bus stop and was killed in a drive-by and he was just waiting for the bus. but the emotion the president showed there, he wasn't alone. i think he may have been reacting to the tears of other people that were there and it brought him back, because i can tell you, i didn't have an onion at my seat making me cry and i was weeping right along with the president. >> you describe it, it's -- as a human reaction and you felt that. fast forward then to the town hall and you heard the candor from a variety of people, from the police officer we just played some of the questions from police officer to a woman who was a rape victim and also talked about her responsibility to have a gun to protect her family.
did you feel that the president was able to convey to people who were afraid or expressed that he's going to take away their second amendment rights, do you feel he did an adequate job conveying what his intention is with his executive order? >> i think he did an ak watt job. i don't think he did a great job. the president, as i've learned, one of the things that used to annoy me about him, that now i find quite intriguing, he contemplated when you talk and he answers a question, he thinks about that answer and i think that that sometimes gets conveyed as he's trying to make up an answer. really what he's doing is contemplating the answer. i don't think he did an excellent job of selling it to the american people. >> so, mark, i have to let you go. thank you so much for being with us. and sharing your experiences and points of view on this topic. >> okay. >> thanks so much.
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