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still likely out there. the winning numbers are -- mexican drug lord el chap owe's story is big. oscar winning actor sean penn met with guzman in a mexican jungle for a secret interview all while eluding authorities. >> the reason for this elaborate scheme was so guzman could have a movie about his life. listen to that script and his voice because this is a very rare moment here.
so we are going to air much more of that translated version in a moment for you. we do want to get out to cnn's nick valencia who is outside the prison where guzman is being held this hour. how did guzman and sean penn i've, i've been seeing a lot on social media today, how did they connect? >> reporter: just an incredibly bizarre twist to this. the interview with "rolling stone" magazine conducted by sean penn, the actor and activist took ps about three months from guzman's escape here from this prison last summer and happened in the middle of mexico in an undisclosed location in the middle of the jungle, we are told. penn saying he was able to contact el chapo that this whole thing was brokered by a famous mexican actress named decastillo. interesting enough she took to twitter to voice her distrust
for the mexican government and her trust for el chapo. that tweet apparently that built trust with the drug lord and she continued communication with him. according to to penn that relationship that she had built with el chapo that allowed him to meet with the druk traffg trafficker. take a listen to part of that clip that was released last night on rollingstone.com.
marijuana fields helping farmers at the age of 9 and said was there no outlet in the poor community other than enter the drug trade. also, this morning, it's important to note, guys, reports that sean penn and kate decastillo is being investigated by the mexican government and we are working to confirm those reports. >> a lot of questions online the legality of this and if there are charges because he was so wanted and some clandestine meeting that was set up in some ways. the mexican attorney general's released a statement and i want to read it to you. since guzman has been recaptured the beginning of the extradition proceedings should begin. does that mean there are steps to get him taken to the u.s.? >> reporter: yesterday, i spoke to a senior mexican law enforcement source who told us that the extradition was likely. we will are told that
extradition would helped but it could take months. reuters is reporting the extradition will happen the middle of summer, later this year. we have yet to confirm that. we have calls out on that but not something that happens overnight. the mexican government telling us they don't want to release el chapo right away and we assume they want to save face after rekaurting him. now he is back in custody and back in this prison and waiting extradition it appears to the united states. >> stick around for us, nick. we have another conversation to be had. >> let's bring in paige pate who is a legal annist and defense attorney here. we want to show you the dramatic video of the capture of el chapo. cnn went into the hotel where guzman was held and waiting for backup to arrive. now he has been caught, mexico is planning to extradite him to
the u.s., as we heard. listen to what guzman's lawyer is saying. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: mr. gusman l be oera should not have been extradited to the united states or any other country. what is the reason? because mexican has laws that are detailed in the general constitutional of the republic. >> paige pate is criminal defense and constitutional attorney. paige, let's start with, i think, what most people asking about and we will get to the extradition in a moment. sean penn and this actress kate decastillo they met with guzman in october. what likely, if any, legal repercussions could they face? >> victor, i don't think they are likely in trouble at all. normally, there is no problem if you simply meet with someone who is a fugitive. the issue becomes a problem if you give that person money,
assistance or help they invoice authorities. what i've heard is all they did is meet guzman and that snos enough is not enough for them to meet federal charges. >> we heard of how guzman got into running this cartel. he has been convicted of crimes and additional crimes for the escapes now. should we expect there will be more charges to come or is he facing so much time that any additional charges would be negligible? >> right. at this point he is facing so much time that the addition of other charges will make no differences to his ultimate sentence or extradition proceeding. there is a lot of more work to be done. they can't put on him a plane at this point. the mexican government said they are willing to move forward with extradition that is not the end of all the story and guzman can challenge it in court. the attorney general has said let's start moving forward with the process, we still have a long way to go before that process is complete. >> nick, let me come to you.
this isn't about face for the mexican government now beginning this extradition process. they wanted guzman to serve his time in mexico, even refusing some help from the u.s. to try to locate him after this latest escape. why now this about-face? is it hoping to avoid embarrassment in the future? resignation that they cannot contain him inside mexican prisons? >> joo i think it's all that, without saying as much, victory. usually when el chapo was captured in early 2014, the president nieto said it was an incredible sense of pride. they wanted to go through the justice system here and prosecute guzman here area now about this aboutface. interestingly enough the context of this. in recent weeks, we have seen cooperation from the mexico government and u.s. government
and some cooperation since 2006 when it ramped up in mexico. i think this is a significant step between the relationship, between the u.s. and mexican government and, of course, a huge moment for the drug war and, of course, for the united states who is really, they are eager to have el chapo back on u.s. soil. they wanted to prosecute him and because of past incidents and precedents they don't have faith that the prison system here in mexico could keep el chapo behind bars. >> nick valencia, thank you for your reporting and page pate, thank you. anderson cooper tonight sits down with sean penn to talk about his interview with mexican drug lord joaquin "el chapo" guzman. thousands are gathering for a memorial service for those killed in "charlie hebdo" one
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a lot of other people don't like him, i must tell you that, but i like him. why do i like him? because he has been very nice to me, all right? but here is the problem. he's talking about natural born citizen. he was born in canada. and i say to ted -- as a republican, i say, because they it's very important. you got to get it straightened out. >> the birther battle between donald trump and ted cruz is heating up in iowa. just weeks to go until the caucuses. the republican front-runner continues to hammer canadian born ted cruz over his eligibility to be president. cnn's m.j. lee is on the trail with the latest round of attacks from trump. >> reporter: donald trump, on saturday, training his fire on ted cruz, reviving the so-called birther issue, speaking to supporters here in clear lake, iowa, trump said because cruz was born in canada, that could raise some serious questions about his eligibility to be president. here is what he said. >> he was born in canada.
and i say to ted -- and as a republican, asi say it, because think it's very important. you got to get it straightenened out he is immediately sued by the democrats because they think saefs born in canada and not allowed to run for president. who knows more about lawsuits than i do? i'm the king. i'm the king. these lawsuits take two or three, four years. you can't have somebody running -- you cannot have somebody running and have a lawsuit and people have already said they are going to bring the lawsuit. they said if he gets the nomination they will bring in a lawsuit as to natural born citizenship. >> reporter: donald trump understands that ted cruz is his biggest threat in iowa. we are about three weeks away from the iowa caucuses and trump gets to bring up his poll numbers he needs to go on the offensive against cruz. in recent weeks, trump has also
raised questions about cruz's stance on ethanol subsidies which is important in this state where farming is a big industry. it's looking like in iowa it's a two-man race between trump and cruz. back to you. >> i want to give you a programming note here. be sure to watch "state of the union" with jake tapper. ted cruz is his guest. it starts later this morning at 9:00 a.m. here on cnn. well, it has been three years since georgia teenager was found dead, rolled up in a gym mat at his high school. today, the family of kendrick johnson are still searching for answers. also the public square in paris is packed with people right now. french president hollande is there gathering for a moving tribute for the people killed in the charlie hebdo attacks one year ago from today.
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reaching for a shoe. a family's followings found evidence that it was a homicide. a federal probe has now begun its third year. reinforcements moving in to join the ranchers protesting in oregon now. they are still holed up in that building on an oregon wildlife refuge. others have arrived bringing long guns for them to stage a buffer between the law enforcements and ammmon bundy protests. >> as the mississippi river swells from record rainfall, hunters are clearing the camps in new orleans preparing for intentional flooding. you see the city is about to open spillway gates to bring the river's water level down and avoid flooding. they have opened the gates 11 times in 85 years. ahead, remember the victims. new this morning, paris holds somber ceremonies for those who
died in the terror attacks last year. on the heels of north korea's nuclear test, the u.s. sends a message of its own. a live report from pyongyang on what the air force did in support of south korea and the reaction in the north. first, this week's culinary journeys takes u.s. to istanbul. take a look at what this chef who traveled there found. acclaimed danish chef rene red zippy is in turkey to explore one of the country's most loved sweet treats. it's a three-hour flight from copenhagen to istanbul. the city is a fusion of traditions and cultures and spanning the could nntinents of europe and asia. it land marks decorate the city's skyline and reminding of a history that is reflected in
his gastrony. staple foods and those with a passion for pastry may be tempted by a lover. >> i've never been to istanbul. my reason for coming here is food, of course. i always wanted to search out that number one childhood treat, which was the backlover. thin layers of pastry, a nut pasted in between, sugar, cinnamon and honey and where else to search for them in its supposedly birth country? >> reporter: the best way to appreciate turkish cuisine is eating this which is a spread of small dishes, the heart of the culinary life here. >> wow. this is pretty wild. i'm pretty overwhelmed. >> reporter: the cue keen, ciya is the brain child of this man who travels the length and breadth of the region to
preserve the astron me of this. >> here i am from the cold north of scandinavia. we eat one big plate of food and lots of it. do people eat like this? >> a saying that says first week, we get full with our eyes. turks like to eat and talk about food so it's really, really present. >> it's the dna? >> it's in there. >> nice. >> that looks good. watch the full show at cnn.com/journey. a ceremony in f.
they are remember the historic day in the city. president hollande and angel merkel of germany arm-in an arm in other world leaders. remember that powerful moment a year ago including the president hollande there. there is israeli palestinian leaders in that picture as well. correspondent jim bittermann is there. he is joining us live in a couple of minutes of what is happening in the square this morning. we understand an oak tree was planted there taking one minute of silence. president francois hollande is leading all of the people there. and laid a wreath at that square. that square, too, we should point out is quite significant. it's become a central point for the charlie movement and it seems to be a constant there with memorials and reverence for
these kind of events as they remember, not just the people who were killed in the "charlie hebdo" attacks, but, of course, now these past november 13th attacks that killed 130 people at the bataclan and the restaurants there in france. it does not, however, seem to stop all of these folks coming out and paying their remains. we will continue to follow this. as soon as we get jim live there, we will bring it to you. on the one-year anniversary of that attack at "charlie hebdo" there was a man who attempted to go into a police station with a knife. he was shot and killed. german police say that they have now launched a raid on his apartment. it was in the city where he had been living in a housing reserved for asylum seekers. we do not know if the attacker was, in fact, a refuge. it would not be the first time a
terrorist posed as a refuge. two attackers in the paris attack arrived with refuges on a greek island last october. let's talk more about this. we have with us tom fuentes. still so many questions about this man. do not know definitely or definitively who this man was, if he was or was not a refuge. is that surprising that, at this point, they still don't have those answers? >> no, victor. i think the problem here is that the fingerprints that were on tile file that they think they recovered from this individual come back to someone that the french arrested in 2011 who was reportedly born in morocco, a 20-year-old and how did that person get back in the country and is this the same person? i think, right now, the authorities are trying to verify the identity of the individual, if that is true, or if he was coming through refuge, you know,
systems in germany and on to france. so i think they still have a lot of questions about the identity. >> and there are great concerns about the entrance of so many tens and hundreds of thousands of refuges coming into germany specifically. angel merkel, the chancellor there, was recently proposed to make it easier to appoint asylum seekers. we saw the attacks on new year's eve. are we seeing a crackdown on refuges? >> i think possibly is there a political price that is being paid by the fact that a couple of refuges have turned out to commit terrorist acts out of the tens of thousands of refuges who are legitimately trying to, you know, come to other countries, whether it's in europe or the u.s. for safety. so i think that that is the problem. but the rising sentiment against
many of the refuges, the rise in even muslim populations in general has started to have a backlash in europe. going back a couple of years there is a lot of sentiment about letting anyone come in those countries and we have heard a little bit of that in our political process here in the u.s., so that is the problem, that you let in tens of thousands of legitimate refuges that are seeking safety and seeking asylum and then, you know, there are going to be a couple that slip through. even if they weren't intended to be terrorists when they joined the refuge or entered the system, in some cases, they radicalize later, as do our own home-born people radicalized later in life. >> no question, especially after the attacks, those 120 reports of groping or sexual assaults on women on new year's eve in colog cologne, that the people there want those 31 suspects, 18
asylum seekers, reportedly, to be brought to justice. but what consideration is given to this crackdown on refuges, if that is what we are seeing? the consideration that that is playing into isis' narrative, that the west does not want you because you are muslim? >> well, that is the speculation and there have been postings, i think al shabab put out a recent video basically saying that, you know, you're not going to be fit -- you're not going to fit in, i mean, in the new country and you're not going to be wanted and you're going to come up under oppression because you're a muslim and the way others have come under oppression in the past. and i think that there is some play into the narrative that is coming out, that, you know, is trying to make a divide between, you know, the nonmuslim and the muslim populations of countries in the west. >> tom fuentes with us throughout the morning. tom, thanks so much. >> you're welcome.
okay. now let's take you to paris and the place de la republique. they are remembering the historic day last year when millions marched together in solidarity against the attacks against "charlie hebdo." what are you seeing, jim? >> reporter: the official ceremony took place an hour or so ago. there were several thousand of people here at place de la republique. they unveiled a plaque to the dead. not only from "charlie hebdo," the 17 who died in the "charlie hebdo" attack and subsequent attacks, but also the attacks on november 13th that killed 130 people. so this memorial today was planned as kind of a commemoration of both of those
tragic events. i just would like to bring in here melissa bell who is a foreign affairs editor for foreign 24. you were here a year ago and a lot of things have happened in france since then. how do you think the french are reacting to all of this and how are they taking it on board? >> i think there is still a great deal of shock. i don't think france was gotten over or begun to digest this year that started with this extraordinary blood bath and ended with one that almost dwarfed where it happened earlier on in the year. i think it will take sometime for the french to come to terms with it. the americans had an experience of a large-scale terrorist attacks many years ago. when it happens to you for the first time on your own soil and particularly the november 13th attacks when so many people are so randomly attacked and those attacks happening at the same time across points in the city was tremendously shocking to the french and it will take the country a long time to come to terms with what went on and of course, even as the french come to terms with this
psychologically, the investigations continue and even now, one year from "charlie hebdo" and two months from the november attacks the people behind the attacks who are possibly believe the french investigators in syria, still haven't been named or found or caught and i think this is a another of the things that the french are starting to come to terms with. >> reporter: must be very disturbing to know people are out there that are possibly planning something else. >> and always this fear that anything can happen any time. we were reminded of it just a couple of days ago when a man walked into a police station armed with a kitchen knife and a fake explosive belt it turned out. the sense that anything can happen any time and this is a city under attack for so many years. we have been carrying out interventions as though they were carried out surgically far away. i think it will take a long time
to get over it and the idea that the sense is always there. >> thank you, jim bittermann. thank you very much. next on "new day" u.s. b-52 bombe bombers flying over south korea south korea. we are taking you to live to north korea for that story. a man accused of ambushing a philadelphia police officer in the name of isis goes to court and we will analyze the charges he is facing and discuss the case. with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained. and in albany, the nanotechnology capital of the world. let us help grow your company's tomorrow, today at business.ny.gov
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where are the u.s. sends a warning to north korea days after pyongyang conducted its third nuclear weapon test. a bomber was sent and it was joined by a south korean fighter jet. this is a quote. they called it a demonstration of ironclad u.s. commitment. cnn's will wrip ley joins us no. do we know how this was received in pyongyang, will j. >> reporter: we got a wire from north korean state. i'll read a portion of what the media put out a short time ago.
doesn't specifically address this b-52 bomber flying over, but it does say, quote, gone are the days never to return when the u.s. can threaten the dprk with nuclear weapons. a recent test was the successful h-bomb test. no response to the fly-by which is not the first time the united states has flown a nuclear capable aircraft close to their country. the last time the u.s. flew bombing runs near the border twice. once a b-52 and then again later in the month a b-2, a stealth bomber. that nthat case the b-2 dropped eight dummy bombs and weighed 2,000 pounds each between the border. after that happened, the north issued a statement saying they were burning with hatred viltas
result of what had happened and aimed missiles in the pacific and put them on standby towards the u.s. as well. we have any' seen that happen yet. we don't know if that wire that was put out was written before or after the north koreans got word of this bombing run. american bombers are infuror ra -- infuriating to the north koreans. we have not and seen a strong response but it doesn't mean it's not coming. >> there were words to the propaganda messages. do we expect more splas display other countries in the region? >> reporter: it certainly depends in part how north korea responds. if they ramp up the rhetoric or make another move strategically, perhaps amassing more troops
towards the demilitarized zone. a nuclear test on wednesday and friday, north korea put out images of a missile launched from a submarine. there was some question whether they were new images or reedited older images. the north is trying to send a message, one, they are testing and developing nuclear weapons they say an h-bomb, maybe, maybe not. they are also continuing to fine-tune their missile technology because these missiles that could be launched from a submarine do pose a threat to areas far away from the korean pe an peninsula, inc the united states. >> josh rogen is joining us now to talk about this. i want to highlight an article you co-authored about north korea and the nuclear weapon test. you said the obama administration has no strategy with a chance of stopping this progress which undercuts the entire push for a nuclear weapon-free world. let's get to this weekend's warning to north korea. do you have any belief that that will accomplish anything?
>> well, the administration is really stuck in a terrible position. they don't want to get caught in this trap of rewarding north korea for bad behavior by going into negotiations. at the same time, by not going into negotiations, the problem only gets worse and worse. so what the administration has decided to do is sort of talk tough and do things like fly these bombers runs when something deroggive happens but no way to solve the problem that north korea is increasing massive stockpile of nuclear weapons and the threat north korea presents to the whole region with its conventional army. i'm not saying it's an easy problem. there are a lot of difficult options. but for right now, the u.s. government's position is to basically wait it out and hope that nothing worse happens. >> what are the options at the end of the day, josh? i mean, it's almost as though north korea is taunting us. they announced this supposed h-bomb test. >> right. we have got exactly two options.
one, which is being advocated is ramp up the pressure and increase the sanctionship. put on more sanctions and pressure north korea to come to the table and make a deal. right? if we are not willing to do that the only other option is negotiate a deal that probably we are not going to like. we can increase the pressure or change our position. what we have done is neither of those things. that is why the problem just seems to be getting worse. >> josh, is there any sanction that would really effort a change? >> well, there is. it's just not a sanction that we can put forth. it's an effort the chinese can put forth and the crux of the problem is the only country has leverage over north korea is china. china has made a decision they don't want the insecurity in north korea. they prefer stability so they are not willing to use that leverage but north korea is dependent on china and its own complicated relationship. in the end what we could do is we could pressure china to pressure north korea.
that's really the solution but that is not easy and that is not something we are prepared to do right now. >> josh rogin, thank you for your insight. next, the man accused of attacking a philadelphia police officer has been to the middle east twice as the attack he says was in support of isis. so will he face terror charges. also later, pope francis celebrates the feast of epiph y epiphany. what he did to mark the occasion. it's hard to find time to keep up on my shows.
don't settle for u-verse. x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. edward archer, the man who allegedly ambushed a philadelphia police officer is being held without bail. he is facing a list of charges, attempted murder, aggravated assault, assault on a police officer and firearms offenses. as the officer he shot recovers in the hospital miraculously is expected to go through several surgeries. we are learning that archer has a criminal record. he pulled a gun during a 2012 domestic dispute and was on probation and about to be sentenced with forgery and
driving without a license. defense attorney page pate is with us all morning long. help us understand this, page. he said after being arrested that he was doing this after pledging allegiance to isis and why he was called to do you that but no terror charges there. why? >> lelgally, have you to do mor. you can commit a violent crime and it not be terrorism. under pennsylvania law and similar to federal law, it has to be done with the intent to either influence government policy or intimidate a large group of people. i think at this point, we know that his motive was kind of inspired by isis. he didn't believe the law enforcement officers were enforcing laws that were consistent with his religious beliefs. but i don't know that we know enough about the case to actually raise it to a terrorism
charge. >> let's talk about how they get to that threshold. we know investigators have seized items from his apartment. they are looking for any communications with isis, with isis leaders. but if this is someone who is self-r self-radicalized and how do they refresh that threshold? >> i don't know that they do. i think we had the same situation with san bernardino. we could not directly prove they were guided directly by isis or directed by isis. i think what we are looking at terrorism in this day and age is different from what we had to look at it under the law. it is no longer an act motivated to change the policy. not the al qaeda stuff the things we saw with 9/11. i think terrorism to the extent we investigate it and prosecute it we need to look at it in a broader sense. are these folks radicalized to an extent and pose a danger to the community above and beyond a violent criminal. >> one of archer's relatives
said he had been hearing voices recently. this goes back to the question we ask often after these type of events, the overlap of mental illness and this pledge to terror. how does a defense attorney approach that? i think we have learned how the state approaches it. how would you reach that? >> well, the first step in any case where i'm concerned about my client's mental condition is i will have a competency evaluation done. and that is easy to do, even if it's a public defender, you can get the state to pay to forit. a doctor will interview him and try to determine if he knows the difference between right angle wrong. if he doesn't you can't take him to trial. was he mentally insane at the time he committed this act? i think from what we have heard is an argument i would make as a defense lawyer. >> waiting, obviously, to get more answers in this case as the investigators look for information about potential communication with isis. page pate, good to have you this morning. >> thank you, victor. ahead the continued coverage
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you're seeing there part of a very rare interview with joaquin "el chapo" guzman. oscar winning actor sean penn met the secret drug lord for an interview. we are heard the actor had dinner and drinks with guzman where he revealed new information about his life and drug trade. new details throughout the show this morning. while el chapo's number is, obviously, up, guess what? not for you! the dream is still alive, people! >> for all of you powerball players. >> how about that segway?
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their luck, their lucky numbers as well in pursuit of a winning ticket. there are smaller prizes maybe a hundred thousand from last night's drawing. here are the numbers last night. we will talk more about that later. new this morning, we want to get to this bizarre twist in the story that is a saga of a mexico druglord and sounding like a hollywood script every day. take a look at this picture. this is from "rolling stone." the guy on the left is exactly who you think he is. it's sean penn shaking hands with guzman. the two met in a mexico jungle. this was a secret interview that went on for hours. >> seven hours, in fact. ball of this because guzman wanted to make a movie about his life. listen to this clip from an interview. we are hearing his voice which is a very rare moment.
we are going to air much of a translated version in a minute. i want to go to nick valencia who is outside the prison where he is held right now. do you have any information about how these two were able to connect? >> reporter: it's like a cinematic plot twist, isn't it? we are learning that actor and activist sean penn meeting with the fugitive drug lord in october of 2015 three months after that the kingpin escaped from the prison you see behind me. apparently, this was all brokered by a famous mexican actress here named kate del
castillo. she apparently tweeted in 2012 her support for el chapo and her distrust for the mexican government and that built a relationship between the drug kingpin and the actress and a relationship that continued the next three years even when with he was behind prison behind bars and they were sending messages over blackberry messages and it was this relationship that helped sean penn to meet el chapo in a jungle in mexico. we have part of that interview that was posted last night on rollingstone.com. >> translator: how did you get involved in the drug business? >> from age 15 and on where i'm from, which is [ inaudible ] i was raised in a ranch called latino and in that day and age
there were no job opportunities. >> translator: is it true what they say drug destroy humanity and bring harm? >> translator: it's a reality that drug destroy. unfortunately, as i said, where i grew up, there is no other way. there still isn't a way to survive, no way to work in our economy, to be able to make a living. >> translator: do you think it's true you are responsible for the high level of drug addiction for the fact there are so many drugs in the world? >> translator: no. that's false. because the day i don't exist, there is not going to decrease in any way at all. drug trafficking, that's false. >> reporter: pretty chilling words there from the world's most notorious drug trafficker, el chapo guzman. he went on to talk about how he entered the drug trade at the age of 15. he was already in the marijuana fields with peasant farmers at age 9 and saying there he had no
other option, no other way to get out of his small town. >> i wato move this forward to statement released by the mexico attorney general's office. what are the next steps in that process? because a lot of people are looking at this and wondering if he is going to make it to the u.s. >> reporter: as we understand it, it's just a matter of formalities. the mexico government has to take those steps. i talk to a mexican law enforcement official yesterday and said the steps yet to be taken but the extradition was likely. we heard hours from the mexican attorney general that extradition will happen after all. reports are saying the extradition will take sometime. perhaps by the middle of the summer later this year. we will see el chapo in a courtroom in the united states. a significant step between u.s.
and mexico relations. >> no doubt about it. nick valenca, so appreciate it. thank you. let's bring in page pate, criminal defense and constitutional attorney, cnn media correspondent brian stealther also. page, let's listen to what guzman's lawyer is saying about the potential extradition to the u.s. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: mr. gusman loera should not have been extradited to the united states or any other country. what is the reason? because mexico has just laws that are detailed in the general constitution of the republic. >> all right. page, let's start there. the attorney has filed motion to block extradition. what are potentially the credible reasons, the credible defense against extradition?
>> under most extradition treaties and the one with mexico is certainly a good example, they are not there are really many defenses to an extradition request. the government does have to show there is sufficient evidence for the charges and we know in the united states that mr. guzman has been indicted in about seven different federal cases and all of that information has been sent to the mexico attorney general. they have, apparently, reviewed it and found it to be sufficient, so they will file papers in court to issue additional provisional arrest warrants to go out and get him. now they have him but they need to hold him under these warrants while the extradition process continues. i do expect his defense lawyers to raise several other objections. they can raise an objection as to double jeopardy. we have already convicted him in mexico for drug crimes and why send him to the united states for other drug crime trials? they can raise more technical defense or procedural defenses by way of injunction and they have done that in the past.
i do expect this process to take sometime. if we look to similar cases, up with of his associates was eventually extradited to the united states but took a year to do that and no case is nowhere near as high profile as this one. >> this interview published in "rolling stone" not the first time a fugitive has been interviewed for publication or for television. but if you read the comments on rollingstone.com, a lot of the readers are disappointed in both "rolling stone" and sean penn for conducting this interview. >> yes. we can add to that list the mexican government. on the other hand, it's possible that sean penn's movements were tracked and that this interview actually helped the authorities track down the fugitive. so there is an interesting issue here about whether sean penn helped or hindered the investigation. if you're sean penn, ask
yourself do you have an obligation after the interview to maybe report on it to tell not to write about it but to tell the government about it to inform the authorities. ? then there is also this. this really strange paragraph at the beginning of this story. he reveals he gave the fugitive approval, source approval, the opportunity to read the story ahead of time and then say okay. what was going to happen here? basically, el chapo was playing editor and that is a very unusual situation. >> page, there is also this in this "rolling stone" write-up. the disclosure some names had to be changed and locations not named. can the magazine be forced to reveal any of that to bring other members of this cartel to justice? >> absolutely. if the magazine has information about other fugitives or other members of this organization, there are ways for the government to get access to that information. in mexico or in the united states. so although you normally think, well, as a media source, our sources are privileged, they are confidential, there are ways to get around that in a case
involving the fugitive. >> brian, we know this interview happened in october and it was in october that mexican officials started searching this area specifically for guzman. do we know if this was the interview or the communications with actors and producers that we heard about yesterday that led to this capture on friday? >> yeah. we don't know for sure, but it does all seem to line up. the timing does seem to line up. in fact, some of the follow-up questions from sean penn were communicated through that video we saw and not through a face-to-face interview because maybe he had to move locations. after that attempted raid. so you do wonder about that. sean penn also says in his article that he was confident, he doesn't say why, but he was sure that the mexican and american governments were tracking the kind of entourage movement. sean penn was traveling with a number other people. a possibility this actually helping find this drug lord. but it's an awfully strange
circumstances, a huge coup for rolling stone but a controversy with lots of other journalists saying they would never agree to these conditions. the bottom line sean penn is not normally a journalist and a celebrity and probably his celebrity status that got him to get into this jungle and to be able to see one of the most wanted men in the world. >> i expect after this controversy we will hear more from sean penn or "rolling stone" pretty soon. brian and page, thank you both. >> thank you. in california, there is a community that is outraged and they are demanding action now after a damaged well spewing gas is making residents really sick. plus, president obama and his final state of the union address. what we can expect and what he will focus on. we will did you say discuss that next. >> american leadership, including our military power, is stopping isil's advance. along . people who gave me options. kept me on track.
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this despite the fact that the president faces stiff opposition in congress and negative approve rating and he begins his final year in office. chris frates has more. >> reporter: the address will focus on long-term opportunities and choices facing the country. the white house billing it at an optimistic streak and will stand in stark contrast a field pedestri peddling fear and pessimism. the presidential address is earlier than usual as obama tries to stay relevant. >> since i took office in the midst of seven years ago in the midst of crisis. what free moments i can take right now, i'm working on my state of the union of the address. its my last one. >> reporter: it won't sound like his other. the president will deliver a
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mr. obama is expected to use one of the last big moments of his presidency to burnish his legacy and built support for gun control and closing a detention center at guantanamo bay and reforming the criminal justice system. a white house says the first lady's guest were picked to represent the progress the country has made since president obama took office. they represent american values of compassion, innovation and courage. the group includes early campaign supporters. one of the guests will be edith childs. she was an early obama supporter who began fired up ready to go chant that became a hallmark of obama's 2008 and 2012 campaign events. thanks so much. let's bring in josh rogin, cnn political analyst. before we look at this year's state of the union address i want to take a look at 2015's address. watch. >> in iraq and syria, american leadership, including our military power, is stopping
isil's advance. instead of getting dragged into another ground war in the middle east, we are leading a broad coalition, including arab nations to degrade and ultimately destroy this terrorist group. we are also supporting a moderate opposition in syria that could help us in this effort and assisting people everywhere who stand up to the bankrupt ideology of violent extremism. >> josh, aside from a call to congress to authorize use of military force that is the extent of what the president said about isis last year about this time. he is facing an american public that is more weary of the potential for an attack on u.s. soil than it was after 9/11. i'd expect he'd have to say more this year? >> you would expect so, but, again, the president will have to defend what notably is a mixed record in international affairs. according to white house officials briefing reporters, he is going to mention the iran nuclear agreement and opening of
diplomatic relations with cuba and mention the asian pacific trade deal. the white house thinks 2015 was a banner year for the obama administration on the world stage but when it comes to the war against i sans specificalsie fight on terrorism he has to be careful. some statistics the white house puts out they are pushing isis back and talk about ramadi why the iraqi government has made process and talk about the political process in syria. overall the fight against isis and the fight against terrorism in general is not anywhere near complete so the president will have to be very cautious in taking credit for something that is simply unfinished. >> let's talk about that caution. is there a new fox news poll, put up the number, asking about the obama administration has mostly succeeded or failed at handling isis. 23% mostly succeeded and mostly failed 65%. we know on the white house aides are summing up the tone with the one word optimism.
but is that tone deaf? are americans ready to receive a president who sees optimism after all of the struggles that have happened the last year? >> i think what we can say from what we are told about the speech is that the administration knows that they have a problem with the perception of how they are handling this. and unlike in previous state of the unions where the president is speaking to congress and perhaps asking for things like an authorization for the use of military force, this year, we are told he is going to be speaking past congress and directly to the american people. as chris said in his piece, it's about defining his legacy. the president wants to define it first and hope that the american people will take his definition rather than wait for the republican candidates to find it over the next several months. whether that will work, we just don't know. but this is his best shot to sort of take a 30,000-foot view to look back at all of where we came from in 2008 during the height of the iraq war and 150,000 troops on the ground in iraq and to say, look at the progress we have made.
that is a tough sell but the president's mission this week. >> chris mentioned a couple of minutes ago a woman who is credited with starting that fired up ready to go chant in 2007-2008 with the campaign and sitting with the first lady on tuesday night will be sending a message a syrian refuge who fled the civil war will be sitting there as well. this, i'm sure, is a message to the rest of the world that the u.s. is willing to accept you. that is, obviously, a controversial message, considering donald trump's plan to ban nonamerican muslims and the large portion of republicans and some independents and democrats who agree with trump. >> right. it's not a clear-cut political win for democrats but it's a principle stand for the administration. i think here we see the difference between an administration has has very little to lose, that can afford to sort of take a risk like this by standing up for a very simple principle that america is a place of tolerance, that
tolerance needs to be extended to muslims and we need to reinforce that as much as we can against a republican primary field that is increasingly leaning towards giving in to this sort of fear and concern that muslims or refuges can present a national security threat. the president is doing this not because it's a smart political thing but because it's something he believes in and i think most democrats also see it that way, including hillary clinton. therapy going to hold the line and say that syrian refuges, iraqi refuges, people from around the world who see america as that shining city on the hill who want to come here and in need of our help should be given that help even if the risks can be 100% mitigated and not necessarily a popular position but, again, it is a principle one. >> and any other year and maybe outside of a presidential cycle, this would not be a controversial gesture but this year, it is. >> it is. >> josh, thanks so much. >> you bet. you can watch the
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the u.s. sends a loud and clear warning to north korea, just days after pyongyang conducted its latest nuclear test. the u.s. air force deployed a b-52 bomber to the korean peninsula. it can carry nuclear weapons was joined by a south korean fighter jet. one called the show a force of demonstration of ironclad u.s. commitment to our allies in south korea and japan and the defense of the american homeland. cnn's will ripply is with us now. the only reporter from a u.s. organization reporting from inside north korea. just wondering what you have heard in response to, if any, this show of force. >> reporter: the north korean
state media put out a wire a short time ago and i'll read a portion of it. it doesn't address the b-52 bomber flying close to the demilitarized joan but it does say, quote. that message is really aimed, not only for the u.s. and its ally, south korea but also for the people here in pyongyang. a major reason why a supreme leader kim jong-un conducted this h-bomb test is to project power to his people and also to the workers party that he rules. the inner circle of power in pyongyang that helps him to make loolf decisions although he is the one who has the absolute power. we are awaiting to see, though, if there is stronger rhetoric from from north korea as a result of this. this isn't the first time the u.s. has flown a bomber that was escorted by south korean jets near the border.
back in 2013 the united states took about a month but they launched two different missions where they flew, first, a b-52 bomber and then b-2 stealth bombers very close to the border with north korea in the second case with those -- with those stealth bombers they dropped eight dummy bombs about 2,000 pounds each in a target area very near north korea. this is infuriating to north koreian military officers because it brings back memories of the korean war. a clear message from the united states that is sure to certainly anger the north koreans and whether we see a stronger response than what was put out in that state media wire, we will just have to wait and see what happens in the coming days. >> there are, obviously, questions about whether or not that was an authentic test of the hydrogen bomb. any progress made there to verify? >> reporter: the north koreans
say it was an h-bomb but many are skeptical. the people i've talked to here say no detection of change they conducted it deep in the mountain enter their launch site but whether or not they offer up any scientific proof it was an h-bomb yet to be seen. we visited a science center the other day and only able to talk to students and not to scientists who could explain how the technology worked and why north koreans claim it was an h-bomb which is hundreds of times more powerful than the other devices north korea have tested and three other previous nuclear tests. >> there wasn't a big difference detected between the newest and the other three, that is causing some of the questions. will, so appreciate it. thank you. coming up, thousands gather for a moving memorial service in paris, remembering those killed in the attacks to on the offices of the paris magazine "charlie
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♪ you see there french president francois hollande and other invited guests are there with him. they are remembering those killed in the january attack on the offices of the "charlie hebdo" magazine, unveiling a plaque there in their memory. cnn correspondent jim bittermann is there and joins us live. that was about two hours ago. it's difficult to encapsulate the motion with the camera lens there. but give us an idea of the feeling there, jim. >> reporter: it was a very emotional ceremony with the french national army there and as well as very famous pop star
johnny holiday here serenading the crowds. a thousand invited guests who were directly connected to the various attacks here, either the families of victims or survivors who were involved in the attacks. it was meant to memorialize not only the attacks on january 7th a year ago of charlie heb dou"c and the supermarket but november 13th where 130 people died. now the square is opened up for the day today to the public and they are being encouraged to come and bring handles and commemorate the event they would like to with each individual on their own to commemorate things. we expect to see hundreds, perhaps thousands of people gathering today for their own kind of memorializing. i'd like to bring into the picture stephone dupuis. stephone, i get the impression
the french are struggling to figure out a good way to memorialize the events of a year ago. >> yeah. i think that is right, jim. the french are hesitating between anger and fear, because as you know, we are still living under the state of emergency. there was another attack earlier this week, on wednesday, a guy attacking a police station in the heart of paris. it's also -- it's very difficult for the parisians would like their lives to go on before but they know that is not really possible. having a drink on a terrace has become very dangerous at least in the minds of a lot of people here. so they are fighting and struggling with it. at the same time, the economy is not doing well in france so a lot of ingredients to be pessimistic nowadays. >> reporter: a year ago there was huge crowd here.
>> millions. >> reporter: world leaders basically, saying they were charlie. has that spirit faded away? has it been taken away? >> first of all, i'm not sure whether this spirit has ever been there. this unity was more -- was more political rhetoric and, of course, that is something the politicians have played upon the last year. and we have seen all over europe a very -- a shift towards more populi populism, and all of this with a nationalistic flavor. it's difficult, because everything is being mixed now. i think the real spirit of "charlie hebdo" was at the beginning until the 7th of janna small newspaper and nobody knew it, but i think it has been abused by a lot of politicians to just show we have to fight terrorism and everything is possible in that fight. >> reporter: thank you very much, stephone.
back to you, victor. >> thank you. remarkable to hear stephone to say we watched a year ago tomorrow those huge crowds holding those signs that that sense of unity was never really there. thank you both. so, of course, as the french mourn today, there are new details this morning in the most recent terror-related incident in paris. a man was shot and killed on thursday as he tried to launch an attack on a paris police station. german police say they have launched a raid on his apartment in the city of recland where he had been living. we want to clarify we done know if the attacker was, in fact, a refuge. for more we bring in cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. if this attacker did, indeed, come to europe as a refuge, it would make three terrorists who have posed as refuges and had the ability to gain access to
europe. i'm wondering do you see any other protocol that could better secure this process? >> well, christi, i think, yes, in this case there would be. the allegation is the person who did the attack was born in morocco and it would be easy then to trace criminal background with the moroccan authorities. by the way, i worked with the moroccan authorities and they actually have a law where 18-year-olds have to register and get a national identity card. so if that person was still in morocco at that time, they would be in their identity. but, additionally, they are saying the fingerprints taken from the attacker at that police station come back to someone arrested in 2013 in france for another violation. so i'm trying to figure out how that would happen that if that person was arrested and ordered to leave france why they would attempt to come back in as a
reven refuge in the first place knowing they have a criminal record on file already. >> would it be because they are going back to, as we say a lot of things happening in the u.s., criminals go back to places that they are familiar with. >> well, they do but would you go back as a refuge? were they ever in that refuge system? i'm not sure that they have got the identity 100%. that is why the authorities have not officially released the identity because they are not positive yet either. >> angela merkel has recently proposed making it easier to deport asylum seekers who break laws. do you see this as the beginning of the deterioration of people taking in refuges or a better crackdown of it? >> well, it's kind of -- you know, it surprises me to have to even require that. in other words, if you're trying to extradite somebody that is a very involved legal process to do that. but deportation is pretty much of a country doesn't want you, go home or go somewhere else.
either the country you entered from or the country of your citizenship. i don't know why it would require any additional legal authority to do it. they can just arrest somebody and, at that point, say you're not desired in this country, go home. we are seeing that with our affluenza teenager in mexico. the mother was almost immediately deported and the guy is going to be deported soon. so deportation is normally, by international law, a fairly easy process. you just don't want the person and you send them out. >> tom fuentes, thank you. good to have you here. >> you're welcome. protesters enraged about methane gas leak reported to be the worst in history. hundreds of san fernando families forced to evacuate their homes. a maine governor apologizing for racially charged remarks he
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the outspoken governor of maine paul lepage is casting blame on the media for criticism of made over some are calling racially charges. governor lepage said his state's epidemic was caused by men with names like shifty, demoney, smoothie. our phil mattingly has more. >> i don't like politics. i hate it. >> reporter: maine's republican governor paul le page says he doesn't like the business he is? . a business where racist controversial comments cause public backlash and recall humble public apologies. >> i may have a slip of the tongue but my job is to protect maine people. >> reporter: the question who is he protecting maine from? on wednesday he took aim at drug traffickers and here is what he
went with. >> guys of the name demoney, shifty, smoothie, shifty, they come from connecticut and new york, they come up here and sell their heroin. incidentally, they impregnate a young white girl before they leave. >> reporter: he once told the naacp to "quoquote, kiss my butd his newest comment has hick backpedaling into democratic hands. >> my brain was slower than my mouth. >> reporter: hillary clinton's campaign wasted little time reacting. releasing a statement saying lepage's racist rants sadly distract from efforts to address one of our nation's most pressing problems. the main naacp official called the comments sad and foolish. in neighboring new hampshire, just this week, gop presidential hopefuls addressed the heroin epidemic as the region's most serious issue. >> we need to get on with it and make this a much higher priority than we have.
>> every life is precious. >> reporter: chris christie sharing hess own close ties to the problem. viral video watched nearly 9 million times on the huffington post facebook page. >> we need to start treating people in this country, not jailing them. >> reporter: the mj's first statewide endorsement in july? maine's governor paul lepage and undercutting the leader. >> why do lepage and i get so much attention over the years? because we say what we really think. >> reporter: so far, christie is keeping what he thinks about the comments to himself. one thing to point out in that relationship the christie campaign knew what they were getting when it came to paul lepage. obviously the two very close and christie crucial to lepage's re-election as share of the republicans governors association. the group dumped millions in the race and christie campaigning several times. pushing him to lepage the christie campaign wants than
maybe the one they heard about this week. phil mattingly, cnn. washington. so when we come back, hundreds of san fernando valley residents outraged today. a methane gas leak. complaints of asthma and bloody noses and we will talk to one of those affected. b.a.r.t. station in oakland, one person is left dead. we will have the details when we come back.
there is a state of emergency in southern california. a damaged storage well is spewing methane gas at a rate of 100,000 pounds per hour. that leak forced thousands of families from their homes. protesters who are understandably angry, they're now demanding action. [ chanting ] >> hundreds of outraged protesters call on southern california gas company to shut down a damaged gas storage well. it's been leaking methane gas since october 23rd. san fernando valley residents crowded into a high school gym to listen to testimony before the south coast air quality district. the sulfur-like odor from the gas has perm nated the porter
ranch area. there are complaints of asthma, headaches, bloody noses. >> what they know the short term affects can be neurological and gastro intestinal problems. we're concerned about that. we don't want to be a bunch of ginny pigs. >> to date roughly 3,000 homes have been outfitted with air pure f purr fiers. other families have been temporarily located. >> the whole family has been sick. >> anything that will stop the odor and stop you from getting sick. the effects it's had on the community is people living and our businesses are suffering. it's tough. >> on its website the company apologizes for the unpleasant smell but it maintains that the leak does not pose an imminent threat to public safety. saturday's day long hearing was to review a proposal to control the leak.
the plan involves using pollution control equipment to capture the gas and treat it to remove the odor so the gas can be recovered or burned off. gas company officials welcome the public review. >> we recognize that expert public agency involvement and oversight is essential to assuring our neighbors and customers and the general public that this accident is being addressed as safely and expeditious as possible. >> there are a lot of people who support the proposed plan of action. they accused the gas company and state regulatory agencies of dragging their feet to address the problem. >> they've had their thanksgiving. they had their hanukkah, they've had their christmas, new year's, family celebrations disrupted because of irresponsible action from the state to the gas company >> the president of the porter
ranch neighborhood council is with us. she works in porter ranch. lives about five minutes away. thank you, paula, for being with us. as you hear them say from southern california gas there isn't a health threat, what have you been seeing. do you blelieve that? >> it's a little disconcerting. there's certainly a health effect. it's hard to say it's not a health threat when you have people with bloody noses, severe headaches, and the rash that seems to be appear as well. it's a little different to hear there's no health risk. and in the long-term effects the carcinogens in this additive are sort of untested at this long-term exposure. even though the levels are extremely low. the long-term exposure has never been tested. we're now the test study for the long-term risks. >> right. and i'm wondering for you can help us understand as we're
watching this from, you know, the outside looking in at your community. help us understand how it affected you. people are removed from their homes. schools have been closed, is that right? >> yeah. we have 13,000 homes in our community. close to 4,000 people have been relocated or in the process of being relocated. our schools -- one school was very close to the site. the schools have been -- we no longer have a public school in our community. these were two of the top schools in los angeles. we're tied in the community. not having our children here is difficult. property values are suffering, and the businesses are suffering because 25% of their community has moved out. these small businesses just can't take hits like that without it having a huge impact. so the long-term concerns for the community are huge as well as just the data-to-day of people having to live outside of their home, outside of everything they know, playing with their neighbors, and being
involved in the community the way they have been. >> we know that california governor declared a state of emergency earlier this week. do you have confidence that is going to help in some way? it's going to force southern california gas company to take action? >> we're hopeful. one of the things -- when we talked to the governor there's no oversight. there's a huge alphabet soup of the agencies all working in different areas and on different parts of the gas -- they have regulatory purview over them. there's not one organization that had an oversight that was trying to lead the charge and give us some clear definition, a clear direction of where we needed to go with this. i'm hopeful that will be helpful. certainly better testing. the way that our understanding is, the way they test the wells for leaks they walk around the 115 wells and they smell. if they smell gas, then they know there's a leak.
certainly in 2016 there are -- >> it doesn't sound very scientific, is that what you're saying? >> it doesn't sound very scientific. we're confident there are better methods so we don't end up with an incident that has been spewing for awhile before they find it. and don't know what that is. we know they found it and we don't know what the time period was. but there's better methods to make the community safe. shut off valves. some of these wells were built in the '50s. i think there's only 50 of those wells left. but they're not up to current standards. that's one of the ones that broke. we're hopeful it will make a difference. >> we're hopeful with you as well. we'll continue to follow up. please keep up with us and our best to you folks in the community. we can't imagine how tough it is. thank you. coming up at the top of the hour, the new twist in this saga about the mexican drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman.
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good morning. so grateful to have you on board with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we have new pictures from "rolling stone" magazine. you see on the left of your screen is oscar winning actor sean penn with joaquin guzman. penn met guzman because he wanted to learn more about him. what you're about to see is part of an interview with guzman answering follow up questions sent from penn. watch. >> how did you get involved in the drug business? >> translator: from the age 15