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>> all right. i have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone. i'm kate wauld bibolduan. >> and i'm john berman. this new video just into cnn that shows the moment ten u.s. sailors were taken into custody by the iranian revolutionary guard. you can see them with their hands behind their heads, provocative video to be sure. again, cnn just confirmed this video is of the nine men and one woman who were held overnight after their two boats entered iranian waters. that's what the iranians say. the americans were released this morning. u.s. military says there are no indication that the sailors were harmed in any way during their detention. >> according to the pentagon, the ten americans had been traveling from kuwait to bahrain. they were held then at an iranian naval base. and just hours ago, as we've
mentioned, they were released. now, a statement from iran says that the release came after it became clear the entry into iran's territorial waters was, quote, an unintentional action and a mistake, and after they extended an apology. let's bring in cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto for more on all of this. jim, first to that video. as john said, it's provocative, and it's uncomfortable. >> uncomfortable, it's a generous word. you have u.s. sailors there on their knees with their hands behind their backs. i have asked, we don't know yet, the circumstances. key question, were the iranian revolutionary guard sailors guns drawn as they took those ten u.s. sailors, nine men and one woman, into custody? a fair question. but the images clearly enormous power for iranian propaganda and that's why iranian state tv is broadcasting those images right now, in addition to as you just saw there those sailors being fed because that's been another message, that their health is
fine, they were taken care of while we detained them for their own safety, blah, blah, blah. iran is saying that there was an apology issued. i've asked the state department -- and we've gotten a very firm answer back. this is from the state department spokesman, john kirby. i quote, there is no truth in reporting that secretary kerry apologized to the iranians. as the secretary said in a statement this morning, he expressed gratitude to iranian authorities for their cooperation in swiftly resolving this matter, and noted that the peaceful and efficient resolution of this issue is a testament to the critical role diplomacy plays in keeping our country safe, secure and strong. that's been another message, if i could add that in, john and kate, from the administration very early on, they've been saying to me, listen. if we didn't have these diplomatic channels with the iranians as a result of the nuclear negotiations, this hotline between john kerry and zarif, the foreign minister, we were talking about this very early from the moment the sailors were detained. if we didn't have those diplomatic channels, they say, this could not have been resolved so quickly.
so putting a positive spin on what is, listen, as you watch those images, certainly an uncomfortable and potentially more dangerous encounter between the u.s. and iran. >> you know, jim, not to split hairs here, but that statement from the state department said clearly that john kerry did not apologize. is it possible that there was an apology for someone beneath john kerry? is it possible there was an apology from the sailors themselves? is it possible that there's enough here that both sides could sort of claim victory here? >> it's a good question. i mean, the administration's position is that there was no official apology. whether the sailors said something apologetic, that's certainly possible. and listen, as you know, john, and some of this was true certainly in the iranian nuclear negotiations, and perhaps this is part of diplomacy, allowing both sides to claim victory and put their own spin on how this. you've heard the administration's spin. it's over. this is the benefits of diplomacy. the iranian spin partly coming
through those images. listen, we had ten american sailors on their knees with their hands behind their heads. that's a powerful image. >> jim, let me jump in real quick. john kerry, secretary of state, is about to be speaking live. let's listen in to see if he will be addressing this right now. >> -- as the general mentioned, i know as well as anybody how important our naval presence is around the world, and certainly in the gulf region. and i could not be -- and i know the president could not be -- prouder of our men and women in uniform. i also want to thank the iranian authorities for their cooperation and quick response. these are always situations which, as everybody here knows, have an ability, if not properly guided, to get out of control. and i'm appreciative for the quick and appropriate response of the iranian authorities. all indications suggest or tell us that our sailors were well
taken care of, provided with blankets and food and assisted with their return to the fleet earlier today. and i think we can all imagine how a similar situation might have played out three or four years ago. and in fact, it is clear that today this kind of issue was able to be peacefully resolved and officially resolved. and that is a testament to the critical role that diplomacy plays in keeping our country safe, secure and strong. and that is really at the core of what i am here to talk about today. as all of you know, yesterday president obama delivered his final state of the union address. and i might add for my part with nearly 29 years in the united states senate, i have been
attending state of the union messages since 1985. ronald reagan was my first. so it was my last, too. the president's agenda for 2016, it is clear from the speech he gave last night is bold and ambitious. and i think that is particularly true when it comes to foreign policy. the reason for that is simple. in this extraordinarily complicated time, the demand for united states leadership, the demand for leadership everywhere, but the demand particularly for leadership from what the president appropriately called the most powerful nation in the world is as high as it has ever been. and we understand that. and we accept that responsibility willingly. that is why the united states will remain more engaged in more places around the world than at
any other time in history. the president's primary responsibility, as all of you know, is and always has been to protect the people of our country, protect the american people. he underscored that again last night. and i though that each of you here can relate to that because ndu's mission is to educate, develop and inspire national security leaders. not all of them from our country, but to inspire national security leaders. and many of you here today have already contributed significant will you to our nation's security and safety including some of you on the front lines of battle. and we are grateful, very grateful, for that. the goal of keeping our country safe -- >> all right, you're listening to john kerry, the secretary of state, in washington right now. the secretary of state just thanked the iranian authorities for what he called the quick
response and appropriate response for the release of the ten u.s. sailors, nine men and ten women, this morning. he said these sailors were well taken care of. they were provided blankets, food, and they were returned. he also said imagine how this would have played out three or four years ago before the iranian nuclear deal. but he did not address these new pictures that we just saw, the provocative capture of these ten sailors at, you know, with their hands behind their heads and on their knees in the persian gulf. >> you're seeing that video right there. that's an excellent point. and this is the first time we're hearing from the secretary since the release of these ten sailors. let's talk much more about this. we want to bring in barbara starr. she's at the pentagon. we also want to bring in gail lemon, author at the council on foreign relations. barbara, first to you, you've been talking to your sources at the magazipentagon. you heard secretary kerry thanking iran for their quick response. what more are you hearing from the pentagon? i don't know if you've gotten more reaction to this video that
they've released. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, i have to tell you, offices in the pentagon, people are really staring at their this. v screens watching this video. many military people. certainly displmayed at what th are seeing here. these are not the optics that anyone in the u.s. military wants to see of u.s. military personnel on their knees with their hands behind their backs, disarmed. but this is a very difficult situation, and it requires some explanation, i think. the u.s. navy when it patrols in the persian gulf from anywhere and they come across disabled ships or ships, crews -- the ships they want to board, let's be clear. they go on board. they take away the weapons of those people. they put them on their knees, hands behind their back to ensure that they pose no threat. this is a procedure, as difficult as it is to watch, that is followed. we all hear say, you know, in the united states, but these
u.s. navy personnel. they pose no threat. were the iranians provocative? yes. could the iranians make a case that its standard maritime procedure? yes. very disturbing to see. but they could make a case clearly that this is how things are handled. and once they disarm these people and took them to farsi island, you then see the pictures, they are given food. they are given water. they are treated according to pentagon officials appropriately. but the optics, the political optics of seeing u.s. navy sailors on their knees, very, very difficult. it should be said that they probably had no choice in the matter. this is a very small boat. all they have is machine guns. they have no real fundamental means of defending themselves. they had no anticipation they'd be taken by iranian naval personnel. so a very difficult situation here. at the moment, i can tell you just a few steps away from our
cnn office here in the pentagon, navy personnel watching these pictures obviously very dismayed at what they are seeing. >> all right. barbara, stand by. gail, stand by. we'll have much more on these provocative new images. the nine u.s. sailors, the men, the one woman, ten u.s. sailors total on their knees. their hands behind their head. provocative to say the least. what were the iranians after here? more after the break. ♪ while you're watching this, i'm hacking your company. grabbing your data. stealing your customers' secrets. there's an army of us. relentlessly unpicking your patchwork of security. think you'll spot us? ♪ you haven't so far. the next wave of the internet requires the next wave of security. we're ready. are you? i'm here to get the lady of the house back on her feet. and give her the strength and energy to stay healthy.
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said the sailors were not harmed. and the secretary of state even bragged about how this level of really cooperation and response would not have been possible three or four years ago. >> let's discuss this more. let's bring in gail, an author, journalist and senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. gail, great to see you. thank you so much for being here. so you have secretary kerry speaking out for the first time since their release. then we heard from barbara starr who said when you look at this video, a lot of folks at the pentagon are watching their televisions, scratching their head. it looks awkward, she says, but both sides can say they were right in how this was handled. what do you think? >> it's an incredibly powerful picture in a very sensitive time. i think it's exactly what the administration wouldn't want, released just as they're trying to talk about the power of diplomacy, to defuse very difficult moments. i think they are correct in saying that diplomacy, and the fact that those channels were open was able to have a dialogue go pretty quickly. i mean, there was an incident in 2007 with british service members caught between iran and
iraq waters, and they were held almost two weeks. so there is something to talk about. but those pictures are incredibly powerful and as you said, very provocative. >> who are these pictures for at this point? what do you expect the iranian reaction will be? because i can imagine the reaction across the u.s. will be like barbara starr was describing in the pentagon, which is astonishment. >> yes, astonishment and real dism dismay. and i think there are conservatives on both sides of this discussion who would like nothing more than to see this deal scuttled. it's really important to pan back a little bit and think, around this week and the next coming weeks, there is a discussion of lifting economic sanctions, right? so the president of iran talked about an economic revival three days ago that's going to happen when these sanctions are lifted. so for a country that's watching oil at around $30 a barrel, it's important to have assets unfrozen and those sanctions lifted. but there is no question that hard-liners and more conservative forces in both the u.s. and iran would like nothing more than to see this deal which they think is a bad deal go away. >> when it comes to diplomacy,
words always matter when it comes to a touchy situation like this. even more so, the apology/nonapology question that is kind of lingering right now, iran says that they were released in part after they received an apology. the state department felt strong enough that the spokesman for secretary kerry said that the secretary of state did not offer any sort of an apology, didn't see a need to offer an apology. why is this important? >> i think it's important for face saving. it's important for the diplomatic conversation. but, you know, the state department is going to stand by the fact that it will say it did not apologize. the question, as you say, though, is did anybody else, and did anyone in uniform apologize? were there people -- other people inside the administration who might have sent a more general message? and i think we're going to see that conversation come out in coming days. >> you said this is in some ways a rorschach test. you look at this event, and you take from it what you will. i mean, maybe secretary of state kerry is right. three or four years ago, this would not have happened. yet when you look at this
picture, i say this would for the have happened. they would not have been released in 24 hours. but when you see that picture of them with their hands behind their head on their knees, that's not what countries on good terms do to each other. and it just shows the difficulty and the complications that still exist in this relationship. >> it is a fragile relationship at a very sensitive moment. and i think it is very important to remember that because that's why these pictures, which you are talking about, are so very powerful. right? for those who want to say this is america humbled by iran, those pictures are going to feed into that narrative. for those who say, look, this is a sign of what warming diplomatic relations can do, get our service members back when they stray into iranian territorial waters and have it be a fairly quiet incident, that also gives them something to talk about. and it's what the secretary opened his speech at national defense university with today. this is a testament to diplomacy and its power. >> even on a more basic level, ten sailors held in iran,
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it is a three-week sprint to iowa. and brand-new poll numbers out show ted cruz is slipping. he's still on top of the bloomberg politics/"des moines register" poll, but he's down six points since december. what was a ten-point gap is now just three, putting donald trump and ted cruz back within the margin of error. >> it was also kind of a battle for third place right now with marco rubio and ben carson. very, very close. then you see rand paul and jeb bush. our athena jones taking a closer look at these numbers. and these numbers, they're pretty darn close with just a few weeks to go, athena. >> reporter: hi, guys. that's right. 19 days, but that's still a long time when it comes to politics. but this poll confirms what we've been talking about for the last several weeks. polls over the past several weeks have honey shown this race is very tight. it's a battle for the top spot between cruz and trump. some polls have shown trump with a slight edge. this shows cruz still in the lead. but as you said, that edge
shrinking. and marco rubio and ben carson fighting it out for third. marco rubio is the only so-called establishment candidate to make it into the top few there. and his campaign, i spoke with them today, they're pleased with the movement they're saying. and if you talk about people like chris christie or jeb bush, they're at 3% or 4%. they're not even really on the screen. so that's not good news for them. what's interesting here, though, is that a lot of -- this poll shows a lot of people in iowa still haven't made up their mind. i believe we have a graphic we can put up on the screen. more than 50% -- it's 56% said that either they could change their mind about their first choice, or they haven't even decided on their first choice. and that means a lot can happen in these 19 days. also remember there are still two debates to take place. i will say that of those -- that 42% who have their mind made up, a lot of them are trump supporters. that's his big advantage. 64% of trump backers say they're
definitely, definitely backing him. and they're not going to change. on this birther issue which we know trump has been hammering cruz on, this is interesting what the poll found. it said that just 15% of the folks they talked to were bothered by this question of cruz's citizenship. 83% said it doesn't bother them. it's a nonissue. now, i should mention this poll was conducted over the last few days between thursday and sunday. and so it's possible that those trump attacks haven't really been fully baked in. but it's interesting to see cruz slipping in the wake of all of this. guys? back to you. >> athena jones, thanks. i want to bring in jeffrey lord, former reagan white house political director and a trump supporter. anna navorro, political commentator, a trend of marco rube gio but a supporter of jeb bush. ted cruz born in canada, donald trump not letting up one bit. moments ago he tweeted "sadly there is no way cruz can continue running the republican
primary unless he can erase doubt on eligibility. dems will sue!" we just saw this poll from iowa where only 15% of people there said it bothered them. i guess my question -- i guess we're wondering, is 15% a little or a lot here? in a close race, i suppose it could matter. >> yeah, in a close race, it really can matter. the problem here -- i personally don't think that ted cruz has a legal problem, but i do think it's a political problem for him because i do think -- we already know congressman allen greyson, not that he think he's, you know, the brightest light in the pantry, as it were, but i do think that there are people out there like that who will, in fact, sue over this if ted cruz gets nominated. so i see it as a political problem more than a legal problem for him. >> so anna, when you take this citizenship question, this poll in the context of the larger looking at there in this new 're poll, cruz is slipping. why did this happen, do you think? is it all about the citizenship question?
>> look, i think we're going to see a lot of ebbs and flows between now and caucus day, february 1st. certainly this citizenship question, i have to say, donald trump who is brilliant at managing the media and causing controversy, promoting controversies, is doing so again. we have now been speaking about this issue for, i think, over a week. and not only have we been speaking about it, but it's also been a huge distraction for ted cruz who's having to face questions on the issue on the trail from reporters and from voters. and it's having to address the issue. so the issue stays alive. absolutely. you know, there's a difference between whether it is a legal issue or a political issue. a legal issue will be up to legal scholars. might it at some point be litigated? donald trump is probably right. if ted cruz is the nominee, somebody is bound to file some sort of legal action on this. but the political issue, remember, politics is all about perception. so if donald trump can create this lingering question, and he
has, he has done so successfully, he is chipping away at ted cruz and ted cruz's candidacy. that being said, i think ted cruz is running a very complete campaign. he's checking off all the boxes, has got the money. good debate performances, on-the-ground troops, evangelical support, right-wing media support. i don't like the guy, but the guy's running an impressive campaign. >> well, it is interesting because he has begun -- even though he says he isn't going to respond to donald trump for going on the attack, he sort of has begun. he's been on the radio now, you know, donald trump mentions that ted cruz was born in canada. now ted cruz is saying donald trump, you know, even worse than canada, new york. let's listen to this sound clip. >> i think he may shift in his new rallies to plan new york, new york. because donald comes from new york and he embodies new york values. >> he embodies new york values. my word, jeffrey. what are new york values?
>> well, i must say, from personal experience -- i love senator cruz, but i am a little perplexed and disappointed at this. my 96-year-old mother in the other room is from new york and has plenty of new york values, and they are pretty good, i think, and so are those of my entire extended family who all come from new york. >> but jeffrey, what is ted cruz trying to suggest there? >> i'm sorry? >> what is ted cruz trying to suggest there, then? >> well, i guess, you know, new yorkers are wild and crazy guys. and ladies. i really don't know. but from my personal experience, they seem to be pretty god-fearing, hardworking americans. >> but they're different than -- >> what he's trying to suggest is very simple. he's trying to suggest is new yorkers -- new yorkers are not like iowans. you know, what he's saying is donald trump is a liberal new yorker who's now trying to pretend to be a conservative who shares your social values. hey, folks from iowa, don't be
fooled. this guy is a new yorker. look, i was born in nicaragua. you live in miami. i don't know anything about new york values, but it seems to me they can be very different from those of the people in iowa. >> you fight like a new yorker, though, ana, i'll tell that you much. >> quickly, one-word answer from each of you. who needs to do the most? who needs to do the most in tomorrow night's debate? jeffrey, you first. >> actually, i think it's probably marco rubio. i think donald trump and ted cruz have now established themselves as the sort of alternating one, two here. so it's got to be somebody else that's got to break through. >> ana, what do you think? >> to me, the real race right now is for who comes out on top in the establishment lane in new hampshire. i think it's a battle between kasich, jeb and christie. and i think you're going to see a lot of cross fire between them. marco and ted cruz, we've seen that already, and both of them are excellent debaters. >> ana navarro, jeffrey lord, thanks so much. appreciate it.
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just one month ago, clinton enjoyed a 20% advantage nationally. the big gains for bernie sanders fueled largely by younger voters now swinging his direction from last month's poll. cnn's political director, david chalian, is joining us now to discuss. so david, as john said, she is slipping. she led by 20 points a month ago in that very same poll. what has happened in these intervening days? >> well, i think what's happened here is "a," there is a natural tightening of these things. there's no doubt about that. but remember, the polls in november and december that showed hillary clinton's wide lead -- her lead widening came off of a really great october. remember, she had that benghazi testimony. she had the debate. joe biden didn't get in the race, and a lot of his support went to her. and so she jumped out way ahead from a really good october. and now i think the race is sort of reverting to where it actually probably naturally is, which is a really close contest in iowa.
bernie sanders with a pretty significant lead in new hampshire. and nationally, hillary clinton, you know, a bit ahead. but clearly, a competitive race. and i think that's, you know, what the polls are reflecting now. >> you know, it's interesting. you can see hillary clinton and the clinton campaign beginning to respond to this. hillary clinton talking about bernie sanders a lot more on the trail. and her surrogates talking about bernie sanders a lot more on the trail. with varying degrees, i think, of accuracy. this is chelsea clinton talking about bernie sanders. watch. >> i never thought that we would be arguing about the affordable care act or obamacare in the democratic primary. senator sanders wants to dismantle obamacare, dismantle the c.h.i.p. program, dismantle medicare, dismantle private insurance. >> that's a lot of dismantling that i'm not sure bernie sanders actually wants to do, david. and in a way, hillary clinton sort of walked it back this morning on "good morning america." what do you think's going on here? >> right. he may want to dismantle those
things because he wants to construct a single-payer system, medicare for all, where all of the goals of those programs that chelsea clinton was just speaking about would be achieved in a bernie sanders vision of what he wants health care to look like. here's hillary clinton, her point now and her campaign's point, which is that they're trying desperately now to move this conversation from grandiose ideas to brass tacks specifics. she says it's time for generalizations to end and specifics to take place, which is why she is hitting him on his record on guns, his proposals for health care. she is really starting to tick off a list of things that she thinks sort of bernie sanders now needs to put up and put some red meat around his policies. such as, john, the clinton campaign is so focused -- bernie sanders has promised to release his plan of how he's going to pay for all of his proposals by the caucuses on february 1st.
well, hillary clinton just said to allisisyn camerota in that interview yesterday, hey, you've got to put it out not just on the eve of the caucuses but enough time for people to look at it and analyze it, really drawing to draw bernie sanders out. >> where's the beef, maybe? david, great to see you. thanks so much. >> sure. ahead for us, talk about politics, folks. on the other side, nikki haley, she's taking heat for laying some blame on her own party. the governor after she took a jab at donald trump over his rhetoric. moments ago, she defended herself on cnn. we'll discuss. and our breaking news. this video of iran detaining ten american sailors. our barbara starr says pentagon, all eyes at the pentagon right now looking at this video with a certain degree of concern. a republican lawmaker reacts next. ormance... ...reimagined. style... ...reinvented.
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this game is not over. this battle is not over. ♪ so let's hear it one more time. together. clear eyes, full hearts. let's go! >> that's the mirky know. that's the america i know. that's the country we love. clear-eyed, big-hearted, undaunted by challenge. optimistic that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word. >> president obama may have had somewhat of a "friday night lightsesque" moment during his state of the union speech last night. but going from the president's address to the republican response, nikki haley, a rising star, future running mate or enemy of the republican right?
right now, the south carolina governor used the opportunity in her response last night to speak out understandably from her perspective against the president, calling him divisive and also criticized republicans and democrats for not working together. >> yeah. it had a lot of people talking, though, a lot of people talking is when she really seemed to directly reference donald trump without actually naming names. listen. >> during anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. we must resist that temptation. no one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country. >> i want to bring in republican congressman patrick mchenry from north carolina. deputy whip in the house of representatives. thank you so much for being with us. >> a pleasure. >> nikkckki haley said there wea lot of angry tweets immediately from conservatives.
and trump supporters saying hey, you're saying bad things about donald trump? what do you make of it? >> we've got a lot of angry voices on the left and the right in this country. and it's the economic reality that most americans are facing. wages are stagnant. you haven't seen them rise in this president's time in office. we have people very frustrated on both the left and the right. and i think what nikki haley spoke to was attempting to speak to people's hearts, not just their guts. and i think that's an important thing to raise the level of discourse, the type of discourse we have in america today. and i think it's an important thing. >> when people say she shouldn't have been weighing into politics so directly and obviously suggesting donald trump was the problem in terms of his rhetoric, you think that's okay? >> well, that's not what she said. she said we shouldn't take the siren call of the angriest voices. and then answered it -- >> so you don't think she was talking about donald trump? >> no i think she was talking about the politics in america today. people think that just being
angry is enough, and that's both not just on the right, in my party, but on the left as well. that's what bernie sanders is speaking to. why isn't this interview about not donald trump but bernie sanders and donald trump? >> because she's taken a lot of heat from the right on this. and this morning on cnn, she was talking about donald trump and other candidates and how they respond. >> yeah, but it's both the left and the right is my point here. i don't have a problem with an optimistic vision here. with somebody saying let's not simply react to anger. let's actually try to channel that into positive outcomes and raise the type of discourse. what i heard from the president last night is he spent the final 25% of his speech saying that he was, you know, one of his regrets was that he couldn't, you know, bridge the partisan divide in washington. >> right. >> well, the first three-quarters of his speech was paying republicans. so he's part of the problem here in terms of his discourse.
and that goes to all of us, all right? all of us in public life. and we are responsible for how we talk. how we speak to our constituents, how we speak to the politics in america and whether or not we're going to answer with an optimistic vision, optimistic agenda on how to tackle some of these societal challenges that are making people angry. >> and obviously, if republicans do that, congressman, you will grow the party. growing the republican party, the republican brand has been something of interest in republican leadership for some time right now. donald trump says he's doing exactly that. he says my whole campaign has been focused on expanding the number of people who want to and will participate in this election cycle. that's in an op-ed in "usa today" this morning. do you think he's growing your party? >> well, look. you know, every candidate can do that in their own way. i think rand paul and jeb bush and marco rubio are speaking to that. and i think on the left, that's what bernie sanders is trying to do, to expand the politics on the left to the further left. and so, look.
everybody has to do that in their own way. and i hope that our republican nominee for president expands the electorate and is in the business of addition rather than subtraction. that's my hope. >> congressman, i do want to ask you, since it's really happening really as we've been speaking, this morning, the situation with the ten sailors taken into custody in iran, they were released overnight. secretary kerry says that it is a testament to diplomacy. to diplomacy, and he called it a diplomatic victory and how it played out and really no more of an incident that what occurred and then the video was released as we are seeing, the viewers are seeing right here as this was playing out, and a astonishing video, and i want odd get your take and your response and reaction to this entire situation. >> well, it is horrible, and it is not what friendly nations do, especially if this was about a mechanical failure. you don't detain a friendly neighbor or friendly nation's
armed forces, and detain them overnight when you have friendly relations. this is -- >> well, congressman, nobody is suggesting that u.s. and iran are friends just because they have a nuclear agreement here. do you believe that the united states and iran are allies now? >> no, it goes to the bellicose nature of the iranian regime when they are releasing this video, and clearly attempting to hold hostage and make international news based off of the mechanical failure, and this is showing the bellicose nature of the regime. this is the reason that i opposed the iranian nuclear agreement as well, because i think it is a great failure to attempt to sit down with folks that will take actions like what we see in this individuvideo. >> the secretary of state said that though, without the deal, without the negotiations of the deals that exist, three or four years ago these sailors nef would have been released within 24 hours? >> and so when did this happen
before? and give me an example. >> the british in 2007, and they were held for 13 days. >> two weeks. >> right, right, and the british, and so -- but for us, and we have been in the gulf as we all well know significant ly with the significant presence for a long period of time, and i am talking about our nation. so, look, look, the video is very chilling thing to see this. and it is very different than the rhetoric of our state department to say that this is a simple peaceful act. >> congressman patrick mchenry, thank y thank you for coming on. >> thank you. and now, the national guard is called to help toxins from preventing more people. but is this too little too late for children already exposed to tainted tap water there. and here what happens if no
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the national guard is haeadd to flint, michigan, to help with the tainted water crisis there that began over a year ago. thousands of people have been told to not drink the water, not touch the water coming from the taps after tests showed elevated levels of toxic led. >> the guard is go helping with relief effort there as they go door to door to hand out bottled water and filters. and it is a daunting task when you need water for cooking and bathing and teeth brushing. and it is a huge task. >> and guys, when you wake up,
you use water for something, wash your face or take a bath or brush your teeth, and this is even hard to find, bottled water, and so many people looking for it, and they feel that they have been lied to for more than a year now that the c contaminated water the fact that it smells, and it is brown, and this all happened after the state took over flint, michigan's water system. the water is so corrosive it corroded the pipes in the delivery system, and then the lead started coming into the houses, and doctors say it is a fact that it must be stopped. >> it is a well known potent toxin, and there is evidence of what lead does to a child, and it is a most damning thing, because it drops the iq, and linked to behavior and linked to
criminality, and there is no such thing as a safe level of lead in a child. >> and fema is bringing more water into the area, and obviously, citizens there are still upset with the government there in michigan. >> and thank you, ryan young. thank you all for joining us this hour. >> "legal view" with ashleigh >> "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello, everyone. breaking news and brand-new images from overseas where ten america americans, nine men and one woman, are back on american hands, and not on a ship, but on shore, and they are no longer in iran. these pictures appeared on iran ian television with them hands on heads and on their niece. they were in custody forll