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you experience tv. all right. here we go. top of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we have breaking news about the confrontation at sea. the question is, was there an apology or not? now, united states says no. we are about to play new video just into us here at cnn showing one of these u.s. sailors who was detained apologizing for straying into iran's fiercely monitored territorial waters after he and nine other americans were captured by iran. of course there are a lot of questions, questions about whether he was coerced into that apology or saying it on it of fear. here you go.
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>> it was a mistake. that was our fault. and we apologize for our mistake. it was a misunderstanding. we did not mean to go into iranian territorial water. >> iranian people was great while we were here. we thank you for your hospitality and your assistance. >> the americans have been traveling from kuwait to bahrain when one of their two small navy boats ran into some kind of trouble, possibly navigational. they said it was a mistake. tehran says that the americans apologized. although, again, it's unclear whether they meant that sailor in particular or coming directly from the u.s. secretary of state john kerry, who, by the way, is denying any sort of apology. the state department tweeting that the claim has zero validity. you see that tweet here from the state department spokesperson.
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joining me now, christopher harmer, senior naval were analyst for the study of war. commander, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you. it's a pleasure to be with you. i'm sorry to be with you under these circumstances. two immediate responses which is first, this is like a bad trip down memory lane for me. i spent a total of five deployments, in the persian gulf. violation of airspace and water space are relatively common. i am really upset, really disappointed that the u.s. navy sailors took it upon themselves to make an apology. whether or not he understood what he is saying he is on record with an apology and something he had no business speaking to. >> clearly under distress. young sailors never in a position like this before. if you try to put yourself in
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his or her shoes, what would you have done? >> i would give my name, rank, date of birth and nothing else. we are trained for these situations. everybody will cave. nobody can hold down during all types of pressure and torture. they were held in a room and asked questions. the only response is here's my name, date, service number. yes, it's obvious these guys did not intend to violate iranian airspace. if you are having a running conversation you can say something like that. once you're in custody, you have to be quiet. you have to follow your discipline. you have to follow your code of conduct can. >> what about just the sheer images. you have seen the pictures of these sailors sitting around this room, seeing them on the boat. i want your interpretation of these images and how they look for president obama.
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48 hours after taking pictures of iran, new deal is through, this happens. >> well, on the substance of the issue, this is really no big deal. anybody who worked law enforcement or international waters, if you take somebody into custody, the very first thing you do is get them on their knees and search them for personal weapons. it's not torture or humiliating or demeaning. it is very valuable to iran. it can show their allied terrorist organizations that they have the ability to take american sailors into custody and treat them this way. substantively it's not that big a deal. the fact that they were treated this way. in terps of propaganda, it is damaging. everybody will try to use it to their benefit. hard liners in iran will try to use it. political machinations in the united states. all of that stuff to me is really background noise. the real fundamental issue is how did the u.s. navy put them in harm's way without a plan to
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extricate themselves or defend themselves. the real issue is the u.s. navy. there are serious professional questions here. >> before we get to the professional questions. for those of us not familiar with the delicate waters in this part of the world and you are. would these americans have been given any kind of warning from iran they were in territorial waters? i have to imagine they knew the significance of where they were and any way too far to the left or right would have been -- >> you bring up a good point. the iranians know where their waters beginning. they are on an island. they are not moving. sailors on ships or aircraft, they have a little less situational awareness. iranians call american ships on these open frequencies and say, hey, u.s. navy ship, you are approaching iranian territory waters, change course. it is highly unlikely they wound up in these waters without
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notice. we get it all the time from the iranian navy ships. nobody wants an inadvertent conflict. they will use it as propaganda. the real question is this is the u.s. navy operating in the persian gulf. we need to know where international waters begin and territory ends. >> you bring up excellent points and questions. we will explore further conversations for now. thank you so much for your time, sir. i appreciate it. >> thank you. good day. all right. here we go. 19 days from the iowa caucuses. what is reputed to be the most trusted poll in the state. this is the poll that predicted barack obama would win the iowa caucus. this back in 2008 against hillary clinton. and now the des moines register bloomberg poll is finding the republican race for president in iowa is virtually tied. you see the two names on your screen.
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ted cruz and donald trump. cruz leads trump just by three points. that is within the margin of error. that was not the case a month ago when cruz had 31% and a comfortable lead against trump. are cruz's lower numbers owing to the focus trump is giving to cruz's birth place. the senator's american mother gave birth to him in toronto, canada. this poll proves his birth is mostly a nonstarter. huge number. unbothered. 83%. cruz said he is avoiding targeting trump in any kind of poll on assault here. cruz did say this on the radio. >> i think he may shift in his new rallies to plan new york, new york. donald comes from new york. he embodies new york values.
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>> craig robin son, former political direct of the iowa political party. great to see you. >> great to be here. >> when you look at the very recent numbers, do you think the birther issue is working against cruz in iowa, the fact that his numbers have slipped? >> well, i don't know if it's the big effort issue out there. it's definitely something that's been talked about across the state and in political circles. but i think there's other issues at play here that are going to matter more at the end of the day than where the senator was born. >> well, what do you think the reason is then in iowa for cruz's numbers to be more in line with trump's? >> well, i mean, number one, cruz is still leading in the polls. he's maybe some of the wind is out of his sails a little bit from when he was surging a month ago. you know, the senator was in the
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state for six days last week on a 28-stop bus tour. and while it was -- it's good to kind of comb through county by county, he was also kind of plagued with questions, questions about, you know, his stance on the renewable fuel standard, renewable fuel issue. as well as some other issues like his position on gay marriage. and so -- >> and questions about where he was born and whether he could become president. >> at the end of the week it was that, yes, indeed. >> okay. maybe all the good not good. knocking the wind out of his sails, to use your term. when you look at senator cruz, he hasn't doubled down on donald trump. he said, listen, i'm not going to go after trump, but do you think it's time for a full-on trump target from him? >> well, i think this is a difficult thing for cruz and trump. i think they appeal to the same type of person. and so you don't want to get --
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you don't want to turn off people. you need to get their support. maybe they go to another candidate that could cause a different problem. >> but you want to stand out. >> most definitely. cruz as a front ronner, if he was behind a few points he could be a little more aggressive. the superpac is also attacking marco rubio on tv ads. they are trying to play a game of keep away. >> marco rubio has 12%. ben carson at 11%. folks at home watching can see for yourself where they all stand. i'm curious from your perspective, what do you think these folks need to do in the
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next 20 days to really have a shot in your state? >> i think they have to be here. >> simple as that? >> well, it is. voters want to see the candidates. they want to be able to ask questions and interact with them. and both of those -- rubio and carson have at times disappeared from iowa. so people want to see him in these final days. >> okay, craig robinson, thank you very much. editor of the iowarepublican.com. appreciate it. just a reminder to all of you watching, tune in opportunity. donald trump on erin burnett 7:00 right here on cnn. republican rising star telling donald trump to turn the volume down. but now governor nikki haley considered maybe a vice president candidate getting heat from the far right. we'll discuss >> plus, fascinating new details about el chapo. hear what they are doing behind bars to keep him from escaping
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again. as we are all snapping up our powerball tickets, imagine if you were this group of bar tenders thinking they've got it. one quit his job. hang on a second. because all this celebrating was for knot. they had the wrong numbers. it was the wrong day. punch in the gut. we will talk to the guys in charge of all of this. i'm brooke balanced kin. we'll be right back.
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. nikki haley fired jabs at donald trump when she delivered the republican response to the state of the union last night. first indian-american woman to be elected governor in the deem south. she never mentioned donald trump by name. but she left no room for doubt
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that she was talking about donald trump. >> during anxious times it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. we must resist that temptation. no one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country. while democrats in washington bear much responsibility for the problems facing america today, they do not bear it alone. there is more than enough blame to go around. we as republicans need to own that truth. we need to recognize our contributions to the erosion of the public trust in america's leadership. >> that was governor haley last night. we heard from donald trump saying the governor is weak on immigration and she has had no problems asking him for campaign
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donations. kate dawson, former chairman of the south carolina republican party and former south carolina state representative, a democrat who supports hillary clinton. hello to both of you in columbia, south carolina. nice to see you two. >> hello, brooke. >> after governor haley spoke last night, she was getting heat from staunch conservatives with her response. are you in that camp? >> no. i think the time was right. it is time for sensible conversation in the republican party when you can have it about what the future is going to look like, the future of the party. certainly with 80% approval rating in south carolina matters. a lot are nikki haley supporters. i don't think the conservatives will be upset the way nikki have had it. i think i saw them applaud the tone she took last night.
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>> takar, now to you. >> i looked at it in two ways. i have never seen a speech, state of the union response in which democrats, be like dennis mcdon know, the white house chief of staff, came out and applauded nikki haley. and the republican front-runner was taken to task in that speech. it was a bit ironic. nikki haley last night gave a speech absent any policy or political depth whatsoever. today, we have to applaud that speech because it wasn't wrought with any hatred or divisiveness. so nikki haley is a friend of mine. both from the same county in south carolina. we're both pretty cup. i was proud of her on the national stage. >> well, your country aside, your countriness aside, i think the fact that dennis mcdon know supported it may not bode well if you are fighting from a republican perspective.
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but duly noted. this is nikki haley talk to go don lemon after her response. >> i think i want to start with the sound bite. you said the loudest voices in the room. what was directed at donald trump? >> partially him. but a lot of people. you know, a lot of what i was talking about is we have seen across our country. if you look at places like ferguson and baltimore, we are seeing people feel like they have to be loud, they have to be angry to get their voices heard. look to the example of south carolina. when we had the shooting of walter scott it was a time when we could have had that. but instead we got together and two months to the day passed the first body camera bill in the country. >> i mean, i don't have to remind the two of you what the state endured. i was at the church monday where the nine amazing people were murdered. so there was that last year. and also the removal of the confederate flag.
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knowing how she rose to that occasion and her response, do you think she's positioning herself as a potential running mate for any of these republicans? >> well, i think it's two-fold. first, in charleston, i would be remiss if i didn't mentioned nine people they weren't killed by a meteor or something strange that happened. they were killed simply because of their race. nikki haley failed to mention that. positioning herself to be vice president? probably so. but the question is, and i firmly believe that nikki haley is going to have a future in this country and national politics. do you want to hitch your horse to donald trump? that's the fastest way to nowhere. i'm not her adviser by any stretch. if he called me to ask me to be vice president, i would tell him i'm moving to canada. >> i want you to jump on that. what do you think she would do in general? >> there is a safe bet nobody is calling in for advice on the republican primary. >> i think you're right.
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>> at the end of the day, nikki haley is a very unique popular governor just like tim scott. both different. both nominated by republicans in south carolina. there will be 650,000 people voting in this primary. brooke, what will happen, the endorsements will matter in south carolina much more so than iowa and new hampshire. iowa will get in the rear-view mirror pretty quick. new hampshire will win in the field. what donald trump needs is a pretty big field here. but you are going to see the whole loop land in south carolina. donald trump is pretty strong right now. we will see what happens with the endorsements that come up shortly. >> thank you two so much. >> thank you. >> thank you, brooke. all right. coming up next, revealing personal text messages purportedly from drug kingpin el chapo shortly before he was caught. did he have any idea who actor sean penn was before her secret meeting? and the measures mexican prison authorities are taking to make
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sure he doesn't escape capture for a third time. plus, would you drink this? not iced tea. folks in flint, michigan, say is coming out of their faucets. the governor under fire. calling in the national guard to fix this month-long crisis. stay with me. hair stylist stas with shoulder pain when... hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? give up my 2 aleve for 6 tylenol? no thanks. for me... it's aleve.
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there will be no third escape for drug kingpin el chapo guzman. at least that is what mexican officials are insisting. they will soon beginning moving him cell to cell. this is the very same facility from which he escaped last july, slipped in the hole in the shower stall. crafty, right? that connected to an elaborate
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underground tunnel. they don't want him in any one place to develop any kind of escape plan. that's what they are going for. raphael ramos is joining us with more on that. i guess i kind of understand keeping him moving so he can't dig a hole in one certain spot. is that the thinking behind this. >> that's right. but he was able to have either bought off or threaten with death most of the prison guards. so that's how he was there. there's also the army there, federal police, as well as an x-ray machine through which every car going through the prison has to go through, brooke. >> okay. leaving no stone unturned literally, i suppose. we are learning more about the relationship between el chapo and mexican actress kate dell castil
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castillo. >> apparently they developed this kind of friendship over the years. and i want to show you one of those text messages where it becomes apparent el chapo didn't have any idea who sean penn was. let me read it to you real quick. he says -- this is communication through the attorney. he said she wants to bring actor sean penn, one of the most recognized hollywood actors. she said mr. sean penn has a very relevant message and would like to deliver it personally. she went on to say -- el chapo talking. let her bring him in. and if she wants to bring more people with her, let her do so. let her do as she pleases. that gives you a good idea, brooke, as to how much el chapo admired or was infatuated with this mexican act stress. she was the one sean penn used
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to get close to el chapo. >> the most wanted man on the planet. raphael, thank you so much. coming up next, we have to talk about this water crisis in flint, michigan. we have been reporting on this. folks, it's getting worse. now the governor is calling in the national guard. are people who have been exposed this water at risk? plus, president obama last night during the stte of the union, are you listening closely, giving nods not just to one but two tv shows. was it planned? we'll talk about that coming up next. i have asthma... ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms.
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we are at the mom of the hour. to michigan we go.
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the governor has activated the national guard to help with this growing water emergency in the city of flint. this jug here -- i'm from the south. iced tea? not at all. this is tap water contaminated with lead and iron. this is after they switched the supply source from luke huron to the flint river. apparently they were trying to save money. today volunteers were delivering clean jugs of lead-free water. >> i want him to stay in office and see what mess he's created here. i want him to see the people he's hurt and his administration has hurt. >> ryan young is before us. great that the national guard has been called in. the fact that this has been an issue for months. and it's still not fixed. >> people are talking about
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that. yes, the national guard is getting called in. brooke, let's put this in perspective. only seven national guard members are on the ground right now. i just talked with one of the advisers there in flint, michigan. they were telling us seven there today. 30 by friday. not a lot to help the 30,000 people who need water. more water has been brought in because, quite honestly, people in flint, michigan, tell us this has been hard to find. think about the idea you have to use bottled water to wash your face, brush your teeth. people are upset that it is coming out smelly and brown. they have been complaining for months. they said they are not getting the kind of attention they expected. now that is starting to happen. you talk about the switch that was made to save $4 million. they are blaming the state. whe they made the switch, there is more corrosive water in the flint river and went through the
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corrosive pipes. they could have treated this water for $100 a day. this is a big problem that doctors say will have long-term effects for the kids in that area. >> it is a well-known potent neurotoxin. there's tons of evidence on what lead does to a child. it is one of the most damaging things you can do to a population. it drops your iq, affects your behavior, it has been linked to criminality. it has multigenerational impacts. there is no safe level of lead in a child. >> a lot of people are pointing fingers in this one. they want to know what will happen next. the congressman saying the state needs to mix it immediately. people are asking for fema get involved. they want to see it happen now. >> like more than seven members of the national guard. at least they're there. ryan young, thank you. president obama's seventh
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and final state of the union address is now in the history books. he hit a familiar tune last night about hope interest optimism about america's future despite the politics. if you happened to watch on tv, a couple of his lines might have had you wondering, hmm, i've heard that before. case in point, the famous catch phrase the president referenced from the no longer but one of my favorite shows on the planet, friday night lights. did you hear this? >> this game is not over. this battle is not over. so let's hear it one more time, together. >> that's the america i know. that's the country we love. clear eyed, big hearted,
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undaunted by challenge, optimistic that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word. >> krp senior media and politics reporter dylan buyers. was it barack obama, coach taylor? i was watching last night. i'm a fan of "friday night lights." i thought was he going to say it? >> it sounds like he botched it. clear eyed, full hearted. >> can't lose. >> can't lose. i think if you go to entertainment weekly today. >> as i have done. >> as you have done. i hope so. you will see they covered obama's state of the union address. that is not something they do. if you were on twitter last night, there were a lot of people who might not usely use the state of the union, who were paying attention after he made that remark because it got so much traction on twitter.
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he is expanding the reach of his address and getting the hope and optimism out there to a larger audience. >> there was friday night lights." also west wing." >> we have a little bit the atom, we have suppliesed the gene, we have reached for the stars. never have we been closer to having them in our grasp. new science, new technology is making the difference between life and death. we need it equalled to this unparalleled moment of possibility. so i announce to you tonight i will bring the full resources of the federal government and the full reach of my office to this fund memory goal. we will cure cancer by the end of this decade. >> so tonight i'm announcing a new national effort to get it done. and because he's gone to the mat for all of us on so many issues the past 40 years, i'm putting joe in charge of mission control. [ applause ].
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for the loved ones we've all lost, for the families that we can still save, let's make america the country that cures cancer once and for all. [ applause ]. >> joe biden is like i didn't know that, i didn't know that. tweet from rob lowe on the west wing. there you have it. >> this i'm more skeptical about. >> why? >> i think, and it's just my guess, that president obama probably introduced this because he wanted to address cancer and because joe biden's son tragically died of cancer. that said, there isn't anyone in the political media universe who is not familiar with the west wing and the writing of the west wing. there is no way this went to speech without knowing the
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references. >> thank you so much. good to see you, my friend. >> up next, if you have your tickets for tonight's power bowl, what you would do if you win $1.5 billion jackpot. well, as you can hear and see in this video, this staff at a new jersey restaurant thought they had done it. and they were wrong. they were wrong. one of the bartenders up live next. is always blue. and the kids always eat their vegetables. because the salad there is always served with the original hidden valley ranch. the 2016 ram heavy duty.
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well, more than a billion dollars up for grabs in tonight's powerball drawing. the biggest jackpot ever. maybe tonight is the night, maybe, just maybe, for one of you luck where folks out there.
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if not, the pot will balloon to $2 million. of course we have all daydreamed about what that will look like if and when you win. imagine thinking you really did win the jackpot, only to learn that it wasn't real. eyes are rolling tphout. that's what happened to this group of workers at a restaurant in new jersey. watch this. >> 11. >> yes. >> 47. >> yes. >> 62. >> yes. >> 63. >> yes. >> powerball 17. >> yes. [ applause ]. >> the excitement, jubilation, daydreaming. it's real. one little problem. the winning numbers were from the wrong day. they were from last wednesday, not saturday. it's painful for my next guest who was shouting out the numbers. charlie, charlie, charlie.
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uh. >> yeah. it's tough, tough. >> what, how, why? >> well, we know why. everybody plays the powerball. it's a lot of fun playing it. we all got together and played about 200 tickets. >> 200. >> 200 tickets. >> all employees. we were keeping our fingers crossed like most people. i got a text ten minutes after 11:00. >> saturday night. >> saturday night. with the numbers that a friend of mine took off the powerball website that posted the numbers. and when i called them off, you can see what happened. it was pandemonium. >> so you're at work. everyone is at work. you are standing behind the bar. everyone is shouting. >> yes. i was behind the bar. i was working.
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then we started to gather around. when i read them off the first time, which you didn't see, we're like, no, that didn't happen. then excitement is starting to build. then i read them the second time. that's when the tape picks up. you can see the excitement there. >> and the dishwasher throws his apron off. >> yeah. he quit. he took his apron off and said i will never wash another dish in my life. >> the valet guy said one? >> one of the customers asked for a car. he said go get it yourself. that's it for me. >> i don't mean to laugh at you. i'm laughing with you. >> that's fine. >> were you already planning your trip around the world and how you would spend your -- what was going through your head. >> believe it or not, i really wasn't. i was enjoying the moment. i was high-fiving. slapping each other on the back. we were laughing, crying. it was really, really real. such a beautiful thing like that. >> and then reality crashed in.
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>> then it all fell apart. >> how did you realize those were not the numbers? >> well, i went into the bathroom to get some quiet. i called home. called my wife. she just said me, please, check the numbers again. just make sure. and sure enough, when i went back to the website -- or when i went to the website, i refreshed. there were a whole new set of numbers there. >> how did you break the news? >> i started on one end of the restaurant. we kind of went this way. everybody just piled out. it was over. >> it was over. it was short-lived. it was fun for a moment. >> it was. it really was. >> are you playing for don't? >> we're in. 42 of us. >> you got this, charlie. i'm rooting for you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. thank you so much. >> all right. coming up, breaking news here. brand-new video apparently showing one of the u.s. sailors
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this is just a stunning story. this iraq war veteran's final facebook post going viral after he was killed by a suspected drunk driver on new year's eve. he was 31 years of age. he was just out at 8:00 at night, going for a ride on his motorcycle when he was hit and pronounced dead at the scene. his life was an upward track in the months before his death. we will talk with his parents about their agonizing loss. i asked his father first to read his son's final facebook post out loud. >> we are born in one day,e die in one day. we can change in one day. and we can fall in love in one day. anything can happen in just one day. last day of 2015, for me, i'll
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be meditating through all i do on this entire year. i've lost, i've gained, family is and tougher than ever before. loved ones lost and new friends found. there has been many times where i have found on on my knees in prayer for hours, relentless. other times leading a group of people in prayer. my faith that i love to share is an everyday awakening to me that people's lives and circumstances can change for the better over time. i look back at 2015, huge challenges that i have overcome, shared with others, and have once again found myself to say thank you and bring on 2016. much works to be done. and i really don't know where i'll end up tonight. but i do know where i wind up is where i'm meant to be. >> how powerful. and the gratitude suppressed in
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that. and that tonight would be ultimately his death when he was killed by this alleged drunk driver as he was out riding his motorcycle. julie to you, at what point were you aware of the facebook post. and how do you interpret that? >> waiting for news to understand how this accident happened. and his dad doesn't get on facebook, but i do. and it wasn't until i got up and read it to fully understand what had happened. i just couldn't believe it. >> brooke, i think the reason why we're here and maybe so many people have heard about his facebook page and julie's page has blown up, people are reaching out that we have never known. >> what are they saying? >> how great a man he was. that he valued others above himself. >> he was selfless, very
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selfless. he liked to reach out to people that were indeed hurting, that indeed needed to be talked to, needed to be loved, needed to be heard, needed to be reached out to. and so he would post things and it would be like i'd like to hear from you. i would like to hear your thoughts on that. anybody, private message me. i'm here to talk to you. and he met many, many friends that way that we hadn't even posted or texted us and said how deeply he has affected their lives. unbeknownst to us. and it's been awesome to meet these people and meeting them. >> look at how hand some. i read that he, what, would be in constant contact with you all and would send pictures of himself, right? he loved taking selfies is that right, julie? >> every morning. he would be in a surgical suite.
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he wouldn't say what procedure they were doing for the day. but he would have his surgical cap on, put his thumbs up and say today is a great day, mom. hope you're up. i am. and of course he would usually wake me up. and i would read that. and then it would be him then saying great procedure today. and then once he got off work. this is what i learned today. love my job. love the people i'm with. >> michael, what will you miss the most? >> well, right now i'm having a hard time overcoming that i can't access him, i can't talk to you. i can't hug him. he had a great hug. i guess probably what everyone is going to miss the most is his caring for everyone and sharing his faith with them. of how jesus helped him overcome the war, the post war, going through college, and the
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direction that god was taking him. and that's why the last part of his quote, wherever i go, i'm meant to be there. pause he totally trusted where god was taking him and where he was taking him. and he was willing to even go to the point of what actually happened. >> to hear about him, to hear about his caring and compassion and gratitude, we should all strive to be a bit more like your son. julie and michael, thank you both for sharing. i am so sorry. i am so grateful for your son's service also to this country. thank you. this is cnn breaking news. >> you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. here at the top of the hour, breaking news. this tense situation unfolding between united states and iran. i am about to play new video just in to cnn now showing a u.s. sailor apologizing for straying into iran's fiercely monitored territorial waters
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after he and other americans were captured at gunpoint by iran. of course there are a lot of questions, including whether he was coerced into this apology, saying it out of fear. here it was. >> it was a mistake. that was our fault. and we apologize for our mistake. we did not need to go into iranian territorial water. >> we thank you very much for your hospitality and for your assistance. >> these americans have been traveling from kuwait to about ran when one of their two naval boats ran into some kind of trouble and ended up in iranian waters. the mistake cost them. and they were held overnight. iran claiming they were only freed after the u.s. apologized. the u.s. tweeting reports of an official apology had zero validity. joining me is fareed zakaria.
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we'll get into the sensitivity of these waters in just a minute. i was talk to go a retired colonel last hour from the u.s. navy saying the sailor never should have apologized. just the way that looks to the world. your thoughts on that? >> this has become something political now because it's iran and the united states. and it's part of frankly a political season. the truth of the matter is, as the general pointed out earlier on cnn, the united states government does not believe it has the authority to cross into the territorial waters of other countries, especially without authorization. so when that happens, and if it happens accidentally as it did in this case, it seems perfectly normal for an american soldier or sailor or whoever it is to say, look, our bad. it was a mistake. and we apologize for it. now, that sort of apology is small a. that is to say it's not an official government-to-government apology. it is not recognizing some kind of malicious intention.
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just saying, our bad, we crossed a few lines further than we should be. >> is our bad good enough? secretary john kerry is saying no, no, no, no apology. >> was it wrong for the sailor to have done that? it doesn't strike me as wrong. these things happen often and they are off resolved. the real story is unlike in 2007 when the similar situation happened with the british boat, the iranian revolutionary guard in that case kept them 15 days or 13 days. if you remember, ahmadinejad was president at the time. he paraded them around. gave free clothes back as a sign of his great, you know, generosity. >> this comes in the wake of the iran nuke deal, for example. >> well, the big difference here is that the iranians and the americans actually have good relations. not great relations. they're adversaries in many ways. the foreign minister of iran and be secretary state kerry spoke
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to each other five days in half a day to resolve this. it shows by having some engagement, by having somebody on the phone you can talk to, you can get these issues resolved. the question is it going to look like 2007 when the sailors are stuck there for 13 days, they are charged with something, or does it get resolved quickly and relatively seamlessly. >> these 10 sailors on their knees, which i'm told is protocol for a search for weapons before they are brought in and detained for a short period of time. nikki haley and her response response. but will this look? >> well, the image looks, as you say, as one more episode in a kind of cold war that the united states and iran have had for decad decades. the united states and iran
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remain strategic rivals. so in that circumstance, if u.s. boat crosses into iranian waters and there is no dispute on the u.s. side, that is what happened. the united states entered iranian waters without permission. of course you can imagine the iranians doing what they feel like they have to do. i think the more important issue here is can you resolve this. >> okay. >> these things are going to happen. do they flare-up and out of control, or are we able to tamp them down? as you say, the timing is crucial because the iran deal is in the last days of going through one important hurdle, the international atomic agency. so i don't suspect that this will go quietly in the united
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states. all i'm saying is the interesting thing here is that it didn't turn into a big episode. the sailors were released quickly. both sides are saying thank you for cooperating. >> fareed zakaria, thank you as always. thank you. i just mentioned a moment ago, south carolina governor nikki haley. she gave the republican response to president obama's state of the union. she just spoke moments ago in south carolina. here she was. >> i know given an opportunity by paul ryan and the speaker to say what i want. it was an opportunity to go ahead and talk about not just where we've been but where we are and where we're going. donald trump was not the only person i talked about. a lot of people want to say that's how it was. when you talk about the angriest voices or the loud voices it was also the situation we had with
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walter scott. when you looked at the fact that a black man was shot by a white police officer five times in the back, we didn't have the yelling and the riots. what we did do is two months to the day of that shooting, republicans and democrats, blacks and whites passed the first body camera bill in the country. the point is with when you get loud, when you get angry, the work stops. things stop moving. and so trying to make sure we lower the volume, listen to what people are saying. if you listen to what they're trying to get you realize a lot of times there is a place to get there. it doesn't mean you have to change your philosophical beliefs. be responsible with your words. we come from a president who has been very divisive across our country. we need to make sure we stop that. we need to pull it back together. one of those things is understanding that i have passed one of the strongest illegal immigration bills in the country. we strongly believe in that.
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we have said we don't want syrian refugees because there is no way to vet. i do believe in legal immigration. my parents came here, paid their price. they have been productive citizens. no one is here legally and lives here should ever feel unwelcome in their own country. that's what i'm talking about. making sure people aren't feeling unwelcomed. make sure we're keeping that open. >> what is it that donald trump is saying that makes him one of the angriest voices? >> the one that got me is when he said ban all muslims. the syrian refugees, i said when the fbi director called and told me he had no way of knowing what their past was, he said we don't want them. we can't afford to take that i risk. but when you have immigrants coming here legally, we never in the history of this country passed any laws or done anything based on race or religion. let's not start that now. we've gone too far than to go
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back into a race and religion issue. i've been through those fights. we want to move america forward. having said that, there are other things other presidential candidates have said. and when i see something wrong, i say it. >> has ted cruz said things? >> if he did, i would say something about that. but i have disagreements. jeb bush passed common core. marco rubio believes in amnesty, which i don't. there's lots of things. but i will say tone matters, message matters and responsibility matters. as we go forward, we need to be responsible in your message if we truly want to get anything done. >> -- some of the more conservative commentators, including ann coulter. they have said things about you, including you should be deported. what's your response to that? >> i mean, those are the angry voices, right? and that's the thing.
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look, i can appreciate they're angry. i said what i believe. i stand by what i believe. i think that this country is better when we work together and acknowledge the fact that the fabric of america is based on legal immigrants of all professions, of all races, of all religions. it is what makes us the grayest freest country in the world. my speech last night was not to win over anyone. i understand when i hit republicans and democrats that i was e going to upset people. but they gave me the opportunity and that's what i did. >> how much input did the rnc or the establishment republicans have in it? was it entirely your speech, or was it done with some help -- it. >> was my speech. they let me write it. and to their credit, they didn't try and keep me quiet. and that's what i greatly appreciate. one, i wouldn't have wanted to do it if i couldn't write it myself. they allowed me the opportunity to speak to the country.
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and i didn't want to lose that opportunity. i didn't want to lose the opportunity in light of everything south carolina had gone through in 2015. and the way the people of south carolina came together on issues of the walter scott, on mother emmanuel, in every one of those situations people lowered their voices and saw how they could come together. if we can do that in south carolina, we can do it across this one. that's the point i wanted to make. we all have to look in the mirror and realize we have some responsibility in this. our actions have to be louder than our words. >> (inaudible). >> no. what i had was he called and gave me good luck. he told me to put a hall's in my mouth before i gave the speech. a couple other people gave advice. i'm very grateful. they could have easily said we don't want you to do this. we don't want you to do that. so i was grateful for that.
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>> -- did you get any calls on the national stage that were surprise something. >> no. i text with a few of the presidential candidates. i think i heard from marco. i heard from jeb. i heard from -- i'm missing one. oh, chris christie. i talked to speaker ryan. it's just nice. everyone was very supported. they appreciated what i was doing. and i was thankful for the opportunity. >> anything that came to you as a surprise to you? >> no. they were all great. >> there is talk about a potential vp position. what do you think of that? >> i think the media spent a lot of time on this. we have come off a tough 2015 for south carolina. i have the educational roll out, state of the state next week. it's just on not something i think about. and i don't think anybody else should think bit because we have to get a candidate first. so i'm not spending a lot of time on it. >> donald trump said you were a
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lot nicer to him when you were asking for contributions for your campaign. >> i consider mr. trump a friend. he supported me in both campaigns. just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you're not a friend. you shouldn't take these things personally. when i say it about my other friends running for president, me don't throw stones. i would say don't take it personally. this is something we learned in south carolina and i'm passing it along. i think our country will be better if we take it. >> don't take it personally. politics. let's chat about this. because there is a lot to discuss there from what governor nikki haley just said. let's bring in dana bash and jeff zelleny. i think you're in florida. yes, you are. you're in pensacola, florida, on the campaign trail with donald trump. dana, first to you.
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we know governor haley gave the response. she got the good luck from speaker ryan. she has been applauded by republicans and some democrats as well. the far right wing of the party, one of the reporters put it the trump wing, not loving what she had to say. what do you make of her response to those questions right now? >> what you just heard, brooke, is exactly why the speaker in washington, senate majority leader in washington, republicans who are pretty openly concerned about the direction of their own party, why they chose nikki haley to give the response last night. you heard her say it was her own. she wrote it. the only contact she had with the speaker was just a good luck and tips on her performance. but in terms of the content, which is causing a lot of uproar on the conservative side of the party, that she assisted was her own. now, they chose her for this
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response not long after she did make pretty tough comments about donald trump. and she just repeated them. we just heard them. and his temporary -- it's called temporarily ban muslims from the united states. she also was a pick because of where she is governor where i am right now, south carolina. incredibly important state. because she is a woman, because she is the daughter of immigrants. and the list goes on. and the fact that she is standing by it is definitely getting her applause from republicans who have been very concerned that the loudest people on the gop said, donald trump number one, having drowning out others. they're concerned that it's going to in the long-term shove aside people they need to bring into the party to keep it viable. so that is why -- and i should just tell you one of the reporters asked about -- ann coulter, what she had tweeted is donald trump should deport nikki haley.
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she wasn't the only one. >> nikki haley referenced the angry voices. jeff, you are out on the trump trail. you heard her, yes, she has received campaign donations from mr. trump. she said he's a friend. she says, hey, don't take it personally. he responded on fox to some of what she did last night. what might we see from him where you are in florida on this? >> donald trump has made clear, he said nikki haley is not off to a good start. he is suggesting that if he becomes the republican nominee she will not be high on his short list for the vice presidential running mate. he said she's been weak on immigration so he wouldn't give her much of a look anyway. i think what we are seeing here, as dana pointed out so clearly, we have a fight going on inside the republican party. never mind the democrats. never mind the differences with president obama, the fights with
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hillary clinton. there is a big split, fight going on inside this republican party. one of the reasons you can see people lining up behind me five hours before the donald trump rally. his supporters like the fact that he is standing up to the establishment. they include people like nikki haley in the establishment. she doesn't look much like a typical republican. this is one of the fights that's going to be going on throughout this primary fight. if it reaches all the way florida primary march 15th, that is going to really divide the party. this is a moment not just to pick a republican and democrat, they are having an identity crisis of their own here. and the winner of this nomination is going to go a long way toward deciding if the party is unified or if in fact, it is not. >> she may not be on donald trump's short list. she could be on others when asked if someone is going to be her running mate. we'll leave it there. thank you both so much.
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she said she had is doubts that the plane had crashed. until someone found a piece of that airplane, she wasn't convinced he was dead. president obama saying the time is right for ambitious moon shot to cure cancer. the president revealed his national push during last night's state of the union address. and tapped vice president to lead the charge. >> so tonight i'm announcing a new national effort to get it done. because he has gone to the mat for all of us on so many issues the past four years, i'm putting joe in charge of mission control. [ applause ]. for the loved ones we've all lost, for the families that we can still save, let's make america the country that cures cancer once and for all.
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>> his 46-year-old son beau lost his battle with brain cancer last year. i would like to bring in a doctor from the university of texas. great to see you, doctor. >> thank you. >> i mean, just reading about, you know, your hospital. you all have done for years. you have this cancer moon shot initiative. you all have been in touch with the vice president in the past. but to hear the president talk about this monday shot of curing cancer in front of tens of millions of people, what were you thinking? >> frankly, this is an amazing day for patients and very bad day for cancer. the president announcing and charging the nation to make a decisive assault on the cancer problem and placing vice president beau biden in charge of this initiative, who has a deep passion and deep knowledge of science and technology is an extraordinary opportunity to really bend the arc of this disease once and for all. >> dr., i have to ask the
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question on everyone's minds. everyone is touched by this with a family member, how realistic will it be when america is able to cure all forms of cancer? >> well, it's going to be an ongoing process. but we are truly in this golden age of cancer research. we have an opportunity right now to harness existing knowledge and enabling technology to dramatically reduce mortality due to cancer. this is going to require significant efforts on cancer prevention. we know a lot about the instigators of cancer and what we can do to prevent it in the first place. mount a strong effort in the early detection of cancer through simple and inexpensive blood tests. and that is also possible in the not too distant future. and extraordinary advances in treatment where we are harnessing the power of the immune system. a whole new class of drugs that are producing extraordinary results for patients with advanced cancer. so we are at a real tipping
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point in our ability to really make cancer history. but it's going to be with us for a long time. >> we'll take it. thank you for all your hard work to you and your team. dr. ronald depinho, thank you. >> you're welcome. coming up next, a new twist in the case of steven avery, the focus of the making a murderer true crime now being accused of abuse by his ex fiancee. her exclusive interview with our sister network hln. . but what if you could wake up to lower blood sugar? imagine loving your numbers. discover once-daily invokana®. with over 6 million prescriptions and counting, it's the #1 prescribed sglt2 inhibitor that works to lower a1c. invokana® is used along with diet and exercise to significantly lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. it's a once-daily pill that works around the clock.
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the main subject of the hit next flit docu-series "making a murderer" has filed a new appeal in this case. he wants out of prison while his latest challenges are considered. for you who have never seen this series, let me get you caught
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up. steven avery is serving life with no chance of patrol for murder of teresa halbach. her charred remains were found in a fire pit behind his home. his nephew confessed to helping avery kill her. but he suggests he was framed in retaliation for filing a multimillion dollar lawsuit for his wrongful conviction in another case. avery served nearly 20 years in prison for rape. he was later exonerated by dna there. this exclusive interview for nancy grace, his ex-fiancee, who is featured in the series, says this time investigators have the right man. >> it's been 10 years, about. why are you talk to go me? what do you want people to know? >> the truth. >> what a monster he is. and he's not innocent. >> were you in love with steven
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avery? >> no. >> but you stayed for two years. >> i ate two boxes of rat poison just so i could go to the hospital and get away from him and asked them to get the police to help me. >> wow. nancy grace joins me live. we chatted about this. for those who have not heard the opinion, you think he is guilty, guilty, guilty. you see this is a mocksumentary. tell me why. >> you know, when i hear this woman, it is so much more than that. he actually told her that if she did not make him look good on the netflix documentary, it was that oar else. he beat her to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions. we have dug and found a police report to document that. he's even writing her from behind bars threatening her, that he could get her framed and make her land behind bars if she
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doesn't do what he says. none of that made the netflix documentary. in fact, according to this woman, jodie, she told netflix i don't want to be in it. it's a lie. i don't want anything to do with it. but she ends up in it anyway. that's what she tells us. why do i think he's guilty? i think he's guilty of the murder because he told me to my face, he concealed his identity with star 67 to call her twice to get her to come over. then called her after he killed her letting his identity show up on the phone records going, hey, you never showed up. what happened? but then fast forward he tells me she came. so what's the cover up about? all 270 plus bones in her body are found burned there in his
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salvage pit along with her tooth and the rivets off her blue jeans. another witness says that that night -- this is not a cop. that night they see steven avery tending the fire in his backyard. her car found on his property with his blood in her car. maybe most important, his sweat evidence, his perspiration is found under the hood of her car. now, as you know, police can't get a warrant and get your blood, your fingerprint, your hair, your pubic hair, your saliva. i don't know the way they can extract sweat and plant it in a car. he did this thing. and i think the reason we're having this netflix reaction is because of the collective guilt we feel when we know somebody has been wrongfully convicted. and he was. >> i know that you absolutely believe that.
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this is something everyone is talking about. others don't agree. you have interviewed the man. nancy grace, thank you. nancy's opinion here. make sure you watch nancy on hln every week night 8:00 eastern. she will have much more with avery's ex. nancy, thank you. next, a different side of the republican front-runner. donald trump's former butler for years and years and years joins me to tell me what life is like inside the mansion down in palm beach.
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being here. 19 days and counting from the iowa caucus us. the republican race for president at least in the state of iowa is virtually tied
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between ted cruz and donald trump. cruz is up by three points. that's within the margin of error. many donald trump supporters say his brash, unfiltered per sew that is a big part of his appeal. one person who may know is his former butler. he spent 20 years as trump's personal butler and is historian at his estate in palm beach, florida. tony joins me now. a pleasure to meet you, sir. >> thank you. a pleasure to meet you. >> so there are a lot of things you know about mr. trump that you probably never, ever can share with the world. i have to ask. just reading through the details about how he only sleeps three to four hours a night, can you give me one or two details that you can share? >> the interesting thing is i would bring his newspapers to him every morning he was there.
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i would pick them up at 4:30, get them there to the house by quarter to 5:00. nine times out of ten he would open his door and say just hand them to me here. he just doesn't sleep. >> what newspapers was he reading? >> let's see. he read the local paper, which would have been the post, "the new york times" the two rags from new york. >> okay. >> i can't think of the names of it. >> so he was taking this in each and every morning at 4:30 in the morning. >> oh, my gosh, yes. >> i read at one point, you tony had to go under the knife. this speaks to your relationship with him. was it a heart operation? what happened? tell me what he did. >> oh, yes. it was. it was a heart operation. he called the hospital the night before i went under the knife. he said when are you going under? and i said tomorrow. and he said, well, if you don't make it, tony, you've had a good
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life. >> oh, my goodness. then he invited you over to reco recoup. >> he said don't go to your apartment. you can stay here. i said what room shall i take? he said you can use mine. i won't be using it. >> i don't have to tell you he has been this huge lightning rod. i'm wondering if you agree with his politics? or do you all spar? >> i've always agreed with his politics. we have discussed politics for 20 some years. the newspaper deal, when he would leave in the morning to go play golf. he would say, tony, the newspapers at the end of the bed, save for me. the top, read. the ones on the floor, throw away. so i had a lesson. i had to read the newspapers.
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and i read them every day. i followed that man. he's incredible. >> a couple years ago you did tell donald trump, listen, i've been with you for years. it is time to hang up the jacket and retire. how did that go for you? >> he said, tony, to retire is to expire. i said but mr. trump, i have been here so many years. he said good. monday starts your next one. i'm still with him. >> still with him after all these years. tony, thank you for the time. great stories. thank you. coming up next, shocking investigation into claims of widespread mistreatment at a chicago police detention center. you will hear from one young man held there for a crime he did not commit.
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as the city of chicago remains on edge, new calls for an investigation into a city police detention center. cnn has learned that there are widespread allegations of human and civil rights violations during the arrest and questioning of suspects. rosa flores spoke with one man who said he was wrongly arrested and abused. >> cory wright says he was arrested on his 20th birthday, zip tied to a bench in an overheated room on a summer day, interrogated without access to an attorney, and charged with a crime he didn't commit. >> i was frantic. i thought i was going to jail for murder. >> according to wright, he was questioned at holman square, a detention facility on the west side of chicago for hours. first about a murder case, and then about drugs. >> i was just pleading.
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i have no idea. i don't know that you're talking about. there's got to be a mistake. >> wright was charged with purchasing .4 grams of cocaine from an undercover police officer for $20 and put on house arrest, according to court records. >> it was a wakeup call. i think a lot of us make the presumption that life is fair. so with that being said, i just felt like it wasn't fair. i struggled with depression. you know, it was a point where my mom and i had a fallout because it was hard to convince her that i wasn't guilty. >> a judge agreed with him four months later, ruling him not guilty. >> it's a moral outrage. >> this and other cases involving allegations of civil rights abuses at holman square caught the attention of cook county commissioner richard boykin. he is introducing a resolution before the board of
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commissioners asking the usdoj to determine the patterns and practices of the chicago police department. but eliza, of legal link says it is it's a city wide problem sfwl more than 99% of arrestees are without an attorney for the remaining of detention. >> reporter: meaning 100% of people arrested in chicago in 2013 have a lawyer while in police custody, according to illinois law, a person is entitled to an attorney within a reasonable time after an arrest. >> it means that people are without the protection of the law. because how can someone access their rights without an advocate and without someone to stand with them? >> reporter: the chicago police department denies home and square are any detention facility is used to violate people's civil rights sending cnn a fact sheet saying
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allegations of abuse are not only inaccurate and misleading, but not supported by any facts whatsoever. cory wright would argue his drug charge was not supported by facts. during his bench trial the judge asked the female undercover police officer to point to the individual who purchased the .4 grams of cocaine from her. >> she pointed to some guy sitting behind my family. and everybody kind of snickered and laugh. and the judge, you could tell he was a little bit upset. he asked for order. and then he asked the lady to, you know, be dismissed. he's like i see no reason for me to keep you any longer. you're free to go. >> reporter: now, cory wright is beating the odds, he earned a bachelors degree and working at a masters degree in network engineering. and hear this. he says every single time he goes on a job interview on an internship interview, he has to
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take his court documents to prove that he was not guilty. now, as for the question, will the u.s. doj include home and square into the scope of its investigation into the patterns and practices of the chicago police department, cnn asked today and that answer is no, brooke. >> rosa flores, thank you so much for your reporting. next, the dow down more than 350 points now. eight minutes left in this trading day. what is behind that drop? we'll talk about it coming up. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
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father of base jumping. >> we were entirely successful in all our cliff jumps because i feel that we were constantly led by the idea that we were glorifying mankind's beautiful spirit of seeking adventure and that we were within our rights of freedom and dominion over all the earth. there are many manmade laws that aren't laws at all that need to be broken. one is a belief that it's impossible to jump off a cliff. >> oh. joining me now from orlando high altitude mountain climber jovia quinn, also a base jumper himself. great to meet you. i lived in west virginia for a period of time and covered bridge day, any jumper knows what i'm talking about. can you tell me why you do this? >> well, i think it's trying to make the impossible possible. it's a dream. i think that there's quite a few
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people around the world that have had the dream of flight. it's having to risk it. >> have you had any close calls? >> oh, man, i've probably worn out my luck jar quite a few times over the years. i've had a lot of close calls. in the mountains base jumping, flying wing suits, but the main thing is to learn from thoes close calls and to try to not repeat those mistakes. >> tell me, joby, tell me about your friend featured in this film, rick harrisson, and can you talk about his relationship with coral? >> yeah, i metric a number of years ago in china. we were doing a really big base jumping event there, and rick was somebody who i had heard about him and knew who he was because he was one of the very first guys ever to make a base jump and was kind of in our world very famous guy. and definitely a little older
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than me and had incredible stories. and i knew several people that knew carl and his wife. rick was one of those people. guys that were older than me for sure, but were very good friends and jumped. and some of that original group of people that carl led to places like yosemite and europe. >> how much training, thought, preparation goes into jumping off a cliff? >> a lot more preparation and time than people realize. i did it in a very compact way because i did it for a documentary. so i did it in a little bit different way than most people do it. but it's something that you take years of fully dedicated training before you can really feel like you're able to master it and do it to as safe as it possibly can be. >> okay. joby ogwyn, i'll take your word for it. thank you so much. nice to meet you. and for everyone watching don't
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forget to tune in for "sunshine superman" a cnn film this sunday night 9:00 eastern. thank you. and thank all of you for watching on this wednesday. i'm brooke baldwin. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thanks, brooke. it turns out drumds after all is the great uniter. "the lead" starts right now. donald trump trash talked by president obama. and then even more shockingly by his own party as senator ted cruz goes full johnny rev accusing trump of having new york values. adding insult to insult, iran frees ten u.s. sailors, but not before getting plenty of footage of them being arrested and apologizing. was this a more hostile act than the white house would like us to know? plus, shaw shank had rita heyworth and n