tv Early Start With John Berman and Christine Romans CNN January 14, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PST
this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news, a deadly terror attack. apparently targeting westerners. a series of explosions that a gun battle rocking gentlemjakar. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is thursday, january 14th. let's begin with the breaking news. a series of coordinated gun and bomb attacks in the heart of the indonesia capital of jakarta overnight. at least seven people dead. officials say they include five
attackers, one police officer and foreigner. ten others were injured. so far, there has been no claim of responsibility, but suspicion is naturally falling on isis. a terror group that has long sought indonesia for expansion. i want to get to cnn's kathy quintara. >> reporter: we heard less than an hour ago near the site of the explosion, as you said, five suspects were killed in the operation and two civilians killed. he clarified the police reported killed earlier was injured in the attack that was launched by the suspects at a police post at a busy intersection at the heart of the city. across from that is a starbucks cafe and office building.
he said there were five explosions that happened and a gun fight. there was one armed suspect that fled into the building, armed men, heavily armed police forces went into the building after that. we were told that all five suspects were killed and bodies brought to a police hospital. they did say there is a manhunt still going on. christine. >> a manhunt is still going on. this was multiple locations and this appeared to be coordinated, is that right, kathy? >> it was coordinated. it is one area. it is a very busy intersection and essential to jakarta. you have office buildings and commercial establishments. you have a mcdonald's and starbucks open there. it is busy anytime of the day. perhaps a very good target if they wanted to shock the city which is a target of attacks
before. the jw marriott was attacked twice a few years back. so was the embassy here in jakarta. no one expected another attack would happen now. the threat of the terror attack was deemed low after the network linked to al qaeda was weakened here. very capable counterterrorism efforts here. of course, there was a concern like the east indonesia that has pledged pledged allegiance to isis. thank you, kathy. >> and a clear view of the attacks is a man named christian. christian, describe what you saw? >> this morning, around 11:00, we heard a loud bang outside of
the building. we thought it was under construction next to our building. we realized there is 500 meters away from our building that shoot smoke. we said there must be something wrong. there were five or six other other explosions and gunshots. we really realized there was something serious going on. as we have been on the 20th level, we have a good view in central jakarta. we saw the streets closed down and our office building closed down. nobody can leave or enter the building. we had to stay inside, of course, that's what we saw. a few hours later, a lot of police cars on the street. a lot of military over there. nobody really knows what's going on here. >> how long did the shooting itself in the explosions go on
for? >> we thought everything was in 30 minutes, but the whole scene was really empty for at least two hours. even the police do no got to the crime scenes. there must be something going on. it looks like there may be one person with a gun or something like that. nobody was really close to the scene, but two hours later, only an hour and everybody was there. the police and rescue cars and things like that. the whole explosion was 30 minutes. >> describe to me this square. we know we just saw the picture of the explosion happening not far from the starbucks and there is a burger king nearby and police stand there. what goes on in this square? is this an area where if you wanted to target westerners would you go? >> reporter: this is one of the main roads in jakarta.
one of the central lines which goes from the north to the south. it is like in the middle of jakarta. we are at the most central point here. a lot of starbucks and mcdonald's, but also other restaurants and office buildings. it is not clearly only foreigners were there. a crowded place with a lot of cars and office people are walking by. it is like a mixed area. very crowded because jakarta has a lot of traffic every day. it is pretty crowded every day. this is one of the main roads. although, at that time, the cars and traffic. >> tell us a bit, christian, about the level of security in general in jakarta. we just heard from our reporter there kathy quinano there. how concerned with ex-patriates?
how concerned are you over dangerous situations? >> reporter: there was an issue a few years back, but in the office buildings, and entrance, there is security. they check luggage and cars driving on the main area. and also when you walk here on the street, it feels like okay. i'm not worried when i walk home for example. of course, there was something happening a few years back. the last few weeks and months, it feels okay here. >> and now going forward, just i don't know if you are still in the office building. the last time you looked. what is the scene at the site of the attacks? >> i'm still in the office and still can look at it.
there are a lot of police cars now and military still. it seems like some cars are passing by. and i don't know when i can leave the building. it gets normal, i think. of course, it's like massive police cars and military police everywhere. >> all right. christian hubel, we are glad you are safe. thank you for your insights describing the scene in central jakarta. you can see the explosion there. seven people killed in the explosion and gunfire that ensued afterwards. we are getting more details here every minute. >> we will continue to follow the terror attack in jakarta all morning long. first, republicans get ready to take the debate stage and we are getting sharp words. and splitting a record $1.6
jeremy douglas spoke to cnn by phone a short time ago. >> i was in the car when it first happened. we were actually luckily pulling in the back of the building. we pulled up and got out of the car. there was chaos because people weren't sure what was going on. a bomb went off when we got out of the car. we rushed into the building. a third bomb went off. we went up to our office and on lockdown in the office building. a fourth and fifth and sixth bomb went off. you could not get much more central in jakarta if you tried. right in the middle of the central business area. you have major international hotel chains and u.n., japanese embassy down the street. so, there's a big diplomatic
community and business community here. if you wanted to make an impact for what you are doing, this is the place. >> experts say this has some of the hallmarks of an isis attack. breaking overnight. the suspense is over. three winning powerball sold. one in tennessee, one in florida and one at a 7-eleven in the suburbs of los angeles. matched all five numbers plus the powerball. good for a piece, though, the record shattering $1.6 billion jackpot. cnn's sara sidner got the exciting call in the middle of the night. go to the 7-eleven in chino hills, california. exciting, sara. >> reporter: it was. that just changed.
that's the new powerball. you only get $40 million. chump change compared to the $1.5 billion that three people have officially won. we don't know who it is. we know there is a winner in here that we were able to talk to. the owners of the 7-eleven get $1 million and here's what they had to say about their winnings. what do you think about the crowd that just showed up here? >> i just love them. they love me. >> what is this selling the winning ticket mean for you and your store? >> it's feeling really good. whoever the lucky person that comes here, i'm thankful. >> reporter: mr. atwal has owned the store for 24 years. he has a couple other 7-eleven franchises. they literally filled the store.
dozens came outside. they were cheering for their hometown in chino hills and cheering for the store owners who got to share in the proceeds. john. >> glad he gets something out of it. that is nice to see the excitement there. a lot of people will have this life changing time. thank you, sara. republicans running for president. one wants to be a winner. taking the stage in hours. sharp words as the polls tighten in early voting states. we have that next.
updating the breaking news this morning. seven people are dead. one a foreigner in a series of terror attacks in the heart of the capital of jakarta, indonesia. authorities say five attackers were killed. the attacks targeted a police station and shopping center and high-rise with a starbucks at street level. as of now, no claims of responsibility, but authorities are looking into whether or not this has an isis connection. and to politicians. republican candidates are preparing for the debate in
north charleston, south carolina. donald trump in the center plank flanked by ted cruz and ben carson and marco rubio and chris christ christie. rand paul qualified for the undercard, but declined to participate. donald trump in florida hinted his sharp words over the citizenship may spill over into the debate. cnn's jeff zeleny was there. >> reporter: donald trump is headed to another republican debate. that was on his mind in florida. he packed thousands of thousands of people in the pensacola center. officials said up to 12,000 people. trump gave a typical speech to the crowds.
he picked his favorite target, ted cruz. still raising questions about his canadian citizenship although cruz says he is a natural born citizen because his mother was a citizen. >> you can't be born in canada. you can't be a canadian citizen. every time i have a meeting with the press, the first question they are asking me is this. you have to be able to run. i'm not going to get into it. i'm sure they will get into it tomorrow night. you have to be like some of the greatest lawyers from harvard, a very good lawyer, right? it's not a settled matter. supposing he runs and everybody's banking on him and then the courts rule he can't run? that's not so good. what do you do? concede the election to hillary clinton or crazy bernie? >> reporter: of course, donald trump is saying if republicans don't do something to stop ted cruz, hillary clinton or bernie sanders could be elected. we will see how much that comes
up at the debate. we have seen time and time again, donald trump has raised something in rallies in days leading up to it and when it comes debate time, he leaves the glov gloves on. voting is getting closer. thursday night in south carolina could be the most important republican debate yet. john and christine. >> every new one is the most important. hillary clinton on the other side is stepping up attacks on bernie sanders this morning as he edges closer in national polls. one iowa poll has him in front. the criticism of the health care and gun proposals may be doing more harm than good. the sanders campaign is seeing huge surging in donations. four times the pace than last year. they claim they can tell it is a direct result of the attention he is getting from clinton. a spokesperson puts it this way. thanks, team clinton.
hillary clinton also doing interviews. she appeared overnight on lifetime. >> i really believe we need more love and kindness and nurturing in our country and in the world. i don't mean this to be real gushy. i mean it seriously. i'm not saying this is only about women, but i think we do have a history of trying to figure out how you get people to get along. maybe even just in a big old family. >> that was hillary clinton. bill clinton and chelsea clinton on the campaign trail as well. cnn's sunlen serfaty has more. >> reporter: john and christine, bill clinton hitting the campaign trail in new hampshire comes at a key time. this race has a more sharp and combative tone on the campaign trail. hillary clinton and her campaign really ratcheting up attacks and
laser focused on drawing policy distinctions with bernie sanders. cnn spoke with bill clinton here about that and the turn the campaign has taken. here is what he had to say. >> what about your wife and bernie sanders? >> you mean when he went to new york and criticized her? all they are doing now is talking about the differences in their positions. that's good. that's healthy. >> what about the polls? surprise you? >> not surprising. >> reporter: hillary clinton continues to insist she is not getting nervous about her standing in the polls. the state of the race. remember rhetoric and laser focus on bernie sanders sends a much different message. >> sunlen serfaty, thank you. time for an early start on your money this morning. futures slightly higher. potentially breaking the bearish mood that started here and went around the world. you can see to europe.
it is caused by the crash in oil and china's slowing economy. right now, more than half of the stocks in the s&p 500, half of them are in a bear market. they have fallen 20% from the highest point over the past year. it is not just oil companies. walmart down 20%. apple lost 27%. goldman sachs, 27%. netflix, john, this was best in the s&p last year. boom. this year, down 20%. >> this year, for everyone is ugly so far. >> if you are looking for sales, there are stocks on sale. all right. the breaking news this morning. a deadly terror attack seeming to target westerners in indonesia. right now, it looks like seven people dead. we are live with details next.
this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news this morning. a deadly terror attack targeting westerners in jakarta. a series of bombs setoff. police caught in a gun battle then with the terrorists. we are live with the new developments. welcome back to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. 30 minutes past the hour. breaking news this morning. a series of coordinated gun and bomb attacks in the heart of the indonesian capital of jakarta
overnight. we are told that seven people are dead and officials say at least five of those killed including attackers. one foreigner also of unidentified nationality. officials say ten other people were injured. so far, there has been no claim of responsibility, but as you can imagine, people are asking questions about whether isis is involved. cnn's kathy quinano is in jakarta with the latest. >> reporter: john, we are getting conflicting numbers from the explosions and the gunfire injuries and deaths. we heard a while ago that five suspects that with killed and two civilians who died from the explosions. one was believed to be a dutch
national. he confirmed five explosions that happened in the starbucks cafe which is in the office building at the central part of jakarta in the central business district. one at the police outpost which was attacked by at least two people. this happened quickly. the explosions and gunfire heard. people panicked. there was a lockdown and buildings around it. it's very busy in the area. a lot of commercial establishments and one in the office building and u.n. offices headquartered there. we see now that this road leading to the building is still closed off to traffic and security is still heavy there. the security minister telling us there is still a manhunt going on. he did not give details about who they are or where they may be. john. >> kathy, tell me about the area
that was hit. is it clear yet if there was a specific target? >> reporter: well, they did -- the police did say, police outpost was clearly attacked. the grenades were launched by the attackers. this outpost is on an island in the middle of the main thoroughfare that separates two huge lanes. people don't normally walk past that outpost, but eyewitnesss tell us at least two people approached us and explosions happened. before that, there was an explosion in the nearby starbucks cafe across that outpost. so, you know, this is -- if they wanted to instill terror and fear in the people in indonesia and jakarta specifically, this is a good target.
>> in a level of coordination, are officials saying that may lead them to thinking it is an international terror group? any isis ties at this point? >> reporter: police are not saying that for sure. they certainly are looking at that angle. the president himself ordered security officials and military to go after the perpetrators. the people who may be behind the attack. even the networks associated to groups who have a motive for doing this attack. of course, the prime suspect here, is a group, the east indonesian group based in western indonesia. the leader is the indonesian most wanted terrorist and pledged allegiance to isis. >> kathy quiano, thank you so
much. >> let's bring in christian hubel who works in a skyscraper. he has a clear view of the site of the attackers. he joins us via skype. christian, nice to see you. so glad you are safe. tell us what did you see. >> our office is based at the plaza indonesia. from here, we have straight view because we are on level 20. we have a good view on the scene which is 500 meters away. we heard a big noise. sounded like an explosion. we first thought it was from the construction site next to our building. then we realized huge smoke on the street 500 meters away. and the second and third and up to five or six explosions we heard in a few minutes. then we realized something was going on. it must be really serious.
>> how long did this go on? was this a period of minutes or half an hour? how quickly were authorities on the scene? >> the explosions were within 30 minutes. but the whole scene looked like it was going on for two hours because when the police arrived and a lot of people were standing around suddenly everybody was running away. it looks like there was still one terrorist or something like that. and it took two hours until the police now is cleaning up the whole scene and really all the rest of the cars and military police there now. it was really shot down for two hours. it looks like there is still something going on. >> christian, tell us about this area. you work right there. you are on the 20th floor. you can see a starbucks there. a shopping center. u.n. offices not far away.
obviously there are business offices, international business office. explain to us about what this area is like. >> we are here in a central area. a lot of skyscrapers and business offices and a lot of shopping malls as you said. this happened on one of the main roads in jakarta. basically, a huge traffic as every day in jakarta. traffic is huge. this is one of the most main roads. so it is really like a lot of people. not foreigners only, but locals and office people and everybody passing this location every day. it's pretty normal for a business district here because it has a starbucks and mcdonald's. a lot of food and shopping malls. it's one of the main central areas here in jakarta. it is almost one of the most
important areas here in the whole city. and so a lot of business people. a lot of people passing this location. it is not only foreigner. locals going by. >> indonesian officials telling us at least five attackers are dead. obviously many people involved in this. from your vantage point, could you see a number of attackers? did it appear like a coordinated assault to you? >> we did not really see that close. we definitely saw people which are walking on the street and obviously they had a gun in their arms. we just saw a lot of smoke and explosions. people running away. but we did not see where exactly how many it was or what exactly happened there. we just heard explosions and
gunfire. suddenly a lot of military police arrived and shutting down the area. >> christian hubel in jakarta this morning. thank you for bringing that eyewitness testimony. >> obviously people in fear there on the streets trying to get to safety. when you see an attack like this and if there were five or more people involved, this must have been a terrifying scene. guns strewn about the streets there. we saw video of the explosions. >> christian hubel, thank you. >> we will follow the terror attacks all morning long. back in the united states. the race for president. republicans getting ready to take the debate stage tonight. plus, breaking overnight. there are at least three big powerball winners. we'll take you live to where one of those lucky tickets was sold next.
u.n. official found himself in the middle of the terror. jeremy douglas spoke to cnn a short time ago sdplchl. >> i was in the car when it happened. we were pulling into the back of the building. we pulled up and got out of the car. there is a bit of chaos because people weren't sure what was going. a second bomb went off as we were getting out of the car. we rushed into the building. a third bomb went off. we went up to our office on the tenth floor and now we are in lockdown in the office building on the tenth floor. a fourth and fifth and sixth bomb went off. we heard small arms fire in front of the building. you could not get more central in jakarta if you tried. it is smack dab in the middle of the central business area. major international hotel
chains, u.n. and japanese embassy which is down the street. there's a big diplomatic community and business community. if you wanted to make an impact and get visibility, this is the place to do it. >> so far, no group has claimed responsibility. a lot of experts and terror analysts say this attack bears some of the hallmarks of the isis attack. breaking overnight. at least three winning powerball tickets sold in tennessee, florida and at a 7-eleven in the suburbs of los angeles. officials confirm the tickets matched all five numbers plus the powerball. good for a piece of the record shattering $1.6 billion. cnn's sara sidner is standing by live in chino hills, california. one of the life changing tickets was sold at this location. hi, sara. >> reporter: it was. so many people came out when they first heard about it.
they were here for a few hours. dozens and dozens of residents showed up at the 7-eleven. they are excited their town had been put on the map by this. they are excited for the owners of the 7-eleven. you notice a little something here. the powerball number has gone down. down to $40 million. chump change compared to what it was. i'm sure anybody would love to win that. that is the new number. the owner here for selling the ticket is going to get $1 million. >> what do you think about the crowd that just showed up here? >> i just love them. they love me. >> what is this selling the winning ticket mean for you and your store? >> it's feeling really, really good. whoever the lucky person who come here, i'm thankful for them. >> reporter: mr. atwal so sweet
and charming. his entire family showed up here. the kids were saying that they brought their books and their school clothes because they want to stay here all night. everybody excited about this. there are still a lot of people who want to know who is the person who actually bought the big ticket. >> it wasn't me. i promise you. i would try to remain anonymously. everyone will ask you for money. >> you are saying it could be you? >> you know i don't play the lottery. sara, have fun. let us know if you get anymore information. 47 minutes past the hour. time for an early start on your money. stocks are a fraction higher. european markets opening with losses. china's economy and the oil crash. s&p 500 falling below 1,900. all of the markets in a technical correction. the treasury department
cracking down on secret cash buyers of real estate. all cash buyers in manhattan and miami who spent $3 million or more on a property will get their names on a list. really rich people from around the world parking money in real estate and you don't know who it is. the feds say some people are hiding assets by purchasing homes through limited liability companies or other financing structures. at one point last year, 55% of all home sales in miami were all cash. >> that is seems so sketchy. >> i can wire the money over right now. i could not wire money over for coffee at the moment. >> that is bonkers. three stable housing markets are suddenly seeing a jump in foreclosures. they are blaming the oil market.
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all right. this morning, republican candidates are preparing for the debate in north charleston, south carolina. on the main stage at 9:00 p.m., donald trump in the center, ted cruz, marco rubio, chris christie, jeb bush and john kasich. at 6:00 p.m., the under card, carly fiorina and mike huckabee and rick santorum. rand paul, you see marked with a red x. equhe qualified, but he said he will not show up. donald trump was rallying in florida overnight. you know, he said he is sure that his questions about where ted cruz was born whether or not he is eligible to run for president, he is sure it will come up in tonight's debate.
jeff zeleny was there. >> reporter: john and christine, donald trump is headed for another republican debate. that was on his mind wednesday night in pensacola florida. he packed thousands here in the center. donald trump gave a typical rally. he feeds off these crowds. he feeds off the energy from the crowds. he also gave a preview of what he may say at the debate on thursday night in south carolina. of course, he picked his favorite target. ted cruz. raising questions about his canadian citizenship although ted cruz says he is a natural born citizen because his mother was a u.s. citizen. >> you can't be born in canada and be a canadian citizen. i hope it works out for him. every time i have a meeting with the press, the first question they are asking me is this. i'm sure they will get into it tomorrow night. you have to be like some of the greatest lawyers from harvard, a
very good lawyer said it is not a settled matter. suppose he runs and everybody is banking on him and the courts rule he can't run? that's not so good. what do you do? concede the election to hillary clinton or crazy bernie? >> reporter: donald trump is saying if republicans don't do something to stop ted cruz, bernie sanders or hillary clinton could be elected. we will see how much that comes up at the debate. we have seen time and time again donald trump raised something in the rallies. when it comes to debate time, he leaves the gloves on. the voting is coming closer in iowa and new hampshire. thursday night in south carolina could be the most important republican debate yet. john and christine. >> another important debate. thank you, jeff. ted cruz on the defensive this morning responding he may have violated federal election rules. failing to disclose thousands of
dollars of bank loans. a campaign spokesperson acknowledged the mistake after "the new york times" reported on it. he has stated he will revise any of the documents. this may pose a problem for the campai campaign. he spoke to cnn's dana bash. >> how do you explain to your supporters that you got a very large loan from your wife's wall street bank to fund your upstart senate campaign? >> the premise of your question is not right. >> you didn't get a loan? >> the premise of your question is not right. we made the decision to put our liquid net worth in the campaign. we did so with a combination of savings, combination of selling assets and brokerage account. we borrowed against the stocks and assets we had under ordinary terms. so, those loans had been
disclosed over and over again on multiple filings. if it was the case it was not disclosed properly we will amend. that's the end of that. >> they will make sure it is filed properly. good news for the cruz campaign. a win in the duck dynasty primary. he won the endorsement of star phil robertson. he shows that in a video that shows cruz is godly and able to do the job of president. hillary clinton stepping up attacks on bernie sanders as he edges closer to her in national polls. leads in iowa. the criticism of the health care and gun control proposals could do more harm than good. the sanders campaign claims to be seeing a huge surge in donation. four times the pace at the end of last year. they say they can tell it is a
direct result of the attention he is getting from clinton. a sanders spokesperson put it to the post, thanks, team clinton. hillary clinton doing interviews right now. this was overnight on lifetime. she was asked what a woman would bring to the presidency. >> i really believe we need more love and kindness and nurturing in our country and the world. i don't mean this to be real gushy. i really mean it seriously. i'm not saying this is only about women, but i think we do have a history of trying to figure out how you get people to get along maybe just in a big old family. >> bill and chelsea clinton on the campaign trail for hillary. cnn's sunlen serfaty was with the former president in new hampshire. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine.
bill clinton hitting the trail in new hampshire. it comes at a key time. this race has taken a sharp and combative tone on the campaign trail. hillary clinton and her campaign really ratcheting up the attacks and laser focused now on drawing policy distinctions with bernie sanders. cnn spoke to bill clinton about the turn the campaign has sharply taken. here's what he had to say. >> what about your wife and bernie sanders? >> you mean when he was in new york and criticized her? all they are doing now is talking about the differences in their positions. that's good. >> what about the polls? >> not surprising it didn't happen 60 days ago. >> reporter: and hillary clinton continues to insist she is not getting nervous about her standing in the polls. the state of the race. the rhetoric and laser focus in on bernie sanders sends a different message. john and christine.
thank you for that. let's get an early start on your money. looking like a rebound for stocks this morning. futures are higher. look at europe. most of europe, asia lower right now. that really terrible day yesterday in the market spread around the world. the problem is china. oil prices have investors worried about the global economy. yesterday, i'll tell you, plummeting oil prices is wreaking havoc on the stock markets. housing markets and television network. north dakota posted 387% increase in foreclosures last year. oklahoma, 36% jump. texas rose 15%. those three states remain unscathed from the 2008 housing bust. that means the activity is not due to the backlog, but the oil market. >> 380% in north dakota.
goes to show how much that economy is tied to the oil sector. a lot of lives well beyond oil. of course, oil driving the market fluctuations around the world. "early start" continues right now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news. a deadly terror attack targeting westerners. serious of explosions and gun battle rocking jakarta. we are live with new developments. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is thursday, january 14th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. the breaking news this morning. a series of coordinated gun and bomb attacks in the heart of the indonesian capital. jakarta overnight. at least seven people are dead. officials say that includes several of the attackers and one of those killed also a foreigner. so far, there has been no claim of responsibility, but there are