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this is cnn newsroom liver from los angeles. >> ahead this night debate night turned fight night. donald trump says he'll skip his own debate to help veterans. >> several people are now in custody following a shoot out with police. >> the biggest on record but warnings apple's best days might just be over. >> hello. welcome. >> great to have you with us. this is newest room l.a.
donald trump now seems to have started a new war taking on fox news and anchor megyn kelly. >> he refuses to face her in the next gop debate, but she insists she's going to be there so trump now says he won't. >> well, fox is playing games. fox is going to make a fortune. i told fox you should give money to the wounded warriors. i'm not a fan of megyn kelly so i'm going to be making a decision with fox but i probably won't bother doing the debate. >> donald trump's feud with fox and megyn kelly goes back to the first debate in august. he accused kelly of asking got you questions. >> your twitter account has several disparaging comments about women's looks. you once said it would be a pretty picture to see her on her
knees. does that sound like the man we should elect as president? >> brian, it seems all of this was triggered by unusually by fox mocking donald trump, defending megyn kelly that seemed to push trump over the edge. >> it seemed to be the last straw for trump. fox was responding to something trump had done early in the day. he criticized megyn kelly. he said should i go to the gop debate and an hour later fox responded we learned from a secret ayatollah and putin both intend to treat trump unfairly if they meet him. he has a plan to replace the cabinet with the twitter followers to see if he should go with these meetings. obviously it's fox news mocking trump in an unusual way and
telling him to grow up. that was followed by trump saying he's not going to show up. he's going to skip the debate and make fox sufferer. now, no matter what megyn kellywell be on the stage. she's the moderator that trump is so dissatisfied with. megyn kelly saying trump thinks he can control everything, but he can't control the media. >> after that first debate made headlines, donald trump went further with cnn's don lemon. he made this comment about megyn kelly. >> she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> i guess given the history here for fox, did they really have no other choice but to back megyn kelly. >> this has been escalating for
months. the network made it clear that kelly has their support. in some ways she's the biggest star on fox now and they had no option but to back her. this is something that's -- it's unprecede unprecedented. we're talking about the gop front-runner refusing to show up for the final debate before the caucuses. now he's the monster who is hurting the creator. there's a weird and interesting dynamic happening here. we've never had a reality tv star and billionaire businessman run for president before. >> we've been hearing from donald trump saying these ratings, it's all because of me. he's right there have been a record number of people tuning in. i guess we'll find out if trump is the reason for those numbers, right? >> anywhere between 13 and 25 million people have watched these gop debates when trump is on the past.
in the past maybe three to eight million viewers would tune in. mostly that's donald trump, but it could be more the other candidates. without trump on stage we will see how much of an impact he's had. now trump is saying he'll have a special vaeevent on his own. that will be interesting to see. in many ways trump is like a producer. he's programming this entire election cycle. he's in charge in a way we haven't seen before. fox has a lot of power as well. maybe they'll show an empty podium on thursday night. >> do we know if he was swayed by twitter feedback or is this donald trump spit out the pass fieer. >> 60% of his twitter fans show up and 40% says not to.
he has a remarkable command of social media. he launched this announcement at the same time. he got a lot of feedback, including people who said quit being a cry baby, but donald trump continues to requite the book of campaign rules. a lot of these are unspoken rules and he's making up new ones. >> thanks for being with us. appreciate it. trump went on social media to take another jab at fox news in a tweet he says pathetic attempt by fox news to try to build up ratings for the gop debate. without me they have no ratings. >> does this man ever sleep? if he's not tweeting, he's doing interviews and he's on the phone and rallies. meantime ted cruz has warned supporters if trump wins the iowa caucuses he will go on to win the republican nomination. cruz says he wants to face
trump. >> apparently megyn kelly is really, really scarey. if he's unwilling to stand on the debate stage with the other candidates, then i would like to invite donald right now to engage in a one on one debate with me any time between now and the iowa caucuses. >> mike slater joins us now. great to have you with us. so, ted cruz basically asking for a man to man debate with trump. the campaign hasn't responded, but we know in the last couple of weeks ted cruz has been seeking an opening to launch that strike on trump standing in iowa. has trump handsed that to him on a silver platter? >> i think conservatives wanted this for a long time, a good old fashd debate. trump did a power move by not
doing the debate in a couple of days here. such a power move to say i don't even need this. i'm so far better than this, why would i go up on stage with a bunch of people with 0%. i'm better than that. we're going to help the veterans. it's a power move, but then as you said cruz comes back and trumps him again with saying fine, you don't have to go there. 90 minutes with any moderator you want or no rules. >> no rules apply. >> i will go one further, i think it's a better strategy than that because trump zechblt turn up to the debate, cruz is the front-runner, he gets hammered by everyone else on the stage and trump gambles that he wins by not showing up. >> here is what trump is banking on. no one watches. no one watches because he's -- i don't know what he's going to do, but maybe there's something at the exact same time and i bet
98% of the american people would rather see donald trump do his thing than losers do their thing. i had a chance to talk to donald trump before the cnn debate and we had a conversation about -- i didn't think he should do it. he was like maybe i shouldn't and then he asked his advisers you got to do it. you said you're right they're going to think i'm a chicken. >> here's the thing and i ask this of you, is he for the rnc, this has to be troubling. once again he's not towing the line. he's setting a dangerous precedent. >> taking power away from the establishment. people versus the establishment. that's been his entire campaign. i think he's done two things. strength versus weakness.
everyone's weak. they're low energy. they lack stamina. they're nice. the people versus the establishment and if he can play that angle at the at the same time then he think he'll come out on top. >> what was interesting for today as compared to this ongoing feud with fox is that in the past i think fox has not tried to criticize the chairman of fox news, he did that today. so can the leading republican front-runner be engaged in this war with the number one conservative media outlet in the kreentd vice versa. >> trump tran sends a lot of things. trump first and foremost is a celebri celebrity. i was talking to someone the other day and he said their sons love donald trump. they know him as a reality star, but the man, like the guy who
fires people who makes decisions, who gets things done, that's how they know him. and i know this sounweird, but has more twitter followers than people who watch fox news. i think the most watched fox news shows has 3 or 4 million viewers. he can contacted 10 million people like that. >> it's interesting you have a 16-year-old. i get your point. >> two big endorsements that he picked up today. got to ask you about that endorsement and how big a blow it is to ted cruz, who is banking on the evangelicals, especially in iowa. >> the evangelical support of donald trump has been the most fascinating thing to watch for me. it's so strange. >> that was a great line by cruz. >> if you told me a couple of
months ago that the guy who really doesn't -- it was going to be beating three deeply spiritual people, rubio, cruz and carson who can tell you their testimonies and how their lives of changed because of their relationship with jesus, he doesn't need to. one thing i would say to falwell is strength is very important and i think we want that and strong is good, but you need huh millty to balance that out. i wish the pastors would consider that before they consider trump. >> last question, is jeb bush still losing? >> he lost forever ago. jeb who? like who is that guy. here's a great example of strength versus weakness. jeb needs his mommy, right? you're going to bring your mommy
along to negotiate with -- >> isis. >> exactly. he's done a great job narrating this narrative. >> thank you. great job. >> thank you. well, in the democrat presidential race bernie sanders will have an informal meeting with u.s. president barack obama wednesday. he also made his final with a campaign ad urging voters to show up. >> we need to lift our
vision above the obstacles in place and look to the american horizon. a nation where every child cannot only dream of going to college, but attend one, where quality health care will be a birth right of every citizen. >> his rival senior campaigning in iowa, meeting with voters and releasing a new ad which highlights her add volume kasy for children. >> no matter where they're born,
no matter to whom they are born, our children's future is chapd both by the values of their parents and the policies of their nation. it's time to protect the next generation. fill the lives of our children with possibility and hope. >> a little bit of debate scandal on the democrat side as well. bernie sanders campaign
manager says he will not take part with a debate next month with hillary clinton. it's scheduled five days before the state's presidential prim y primary, but not sanctioned by the democratic national committee. >> time for a quick break now. the leader of the protesters has been killed. here in california, the search intensifies for three dangerous inmates. the lai .
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oregon for weeks. another protesters was killed as the law enforcement confronted the group in a traffic stop on tuesday. shots were fired during the arrest, but it is not clear who fired first. >> the group's leader is among those facing charges. they have been protests u.s. federal land policies. they believe they're illegal and unconstituti unconstitutional. >> steve, always good to have you with us. let me ask you this. a highway shootout. is this a carefully laid plan that went awry? >> this was a carefully plan that went just the way it was planned. what was not planned was that they might resist with firearms. that's why you had the s.w.a.t. team do it and didn't send the boy scouts to do it. you expected they might do this and if somebody were to resist, if somebody were no the to
comply, then they were going to have this happen and that's what happened. >> these guys were headed to a community meeting about 70 miles away. this has been reported as a meeting with authorities. were they lured out of the refuge? were the authorities watching and waiting and then made a move. >> this is a felony car stop. this is something that was planned. this is where you have the roads blocked. >> something you've done many times? >> yes. what you need to do is have just a little bit of warning for this. so they could have had as little as half an hour warning and yes could they have lured them out? yes. it depends on what this meteding was for. >> you have done these felony car stops a number of tiemgz and there haven't been shots fired in the time that you participated. the fact that there were shots fired here, what does that say to you? >> when we went in with a felony
car stop, one of the nings we want to communicate with these people when you have guns pointed at you that any kind of resistance is futile and that keeps people safe because they say i have no chance. >> overwhelming force. >> if they had thought they had a chance, they'd try it. this guy knew he was against overwhelming force. >> so the leader of this group is now arrested. there's still some protesters in ha building. how long before they fold now that the leader has been arrested? >> i think it's not going to be long. this, i believe, was pushed by the oregon governor criticizing the united states government for not ending this. i think what happened at that point is the fbi said we have got to do this now. so i think the guys who are still in that building know if they leave the building, they do so at their own risk and they will be arrested also. >> do you see them giving up
voluntarily or giving up or the fbi storming them. >> they're not going to storm. >> that's not going to change now that they've taken in the leader. >> no, especially after they've had one person willing to die for it. he was not resisting. he was killing himself. that was suicide. so i think you might have another one of those, but that's still not going do change the fact that the bur reis not going to go in there -- they have no desire to have a blood bath. >> thank you for breaking it down. >> appreciate it. authorities are ramping up efforts to find three dangerous inmates who escaped from a jail here in california. >> they're offering more reward money hoping the public can hope. we have the latest. >> reporter: the search for three inmates who escaped from this jail behind me is intens y intensifying and there are many people here in southern california on edge. three men accused of horrifying
crimes. jonathan tieu charged with murder and his allegedly blow torching a marijuana dispensary owner and cutting off his genitals. the victim survived. all three were awaiting trial, but now are on the loose after escaping jail. >> the inmates cut through half inch steel bars to facilitate their escape. the information also suggests that the inmates cut their way through the plumbing tunnels and gained access to an unsecure area of the roof. >> that unsecured area of the roof is about 80 feet above the ground. sheriff's dep tiz on the roof. that's the wire that the inmates cut right next to the building. they tethered bed sheets
together and got to the ground an took off. >> they believe someone helped them get the tools used. they do not know if that person worked inside the jail. this grainy video shows flashlights they used as they were escaping sometime before dawn on friday. they were last seen during a 5:00 a.m. body count and weren't discovered missing until friday count. >> it looks like they had about a 16 hour head start. >> right. >> will that not be a i loud to happen in the future that you can go that long without spotting somebody. >> that will not be allowed to happen in the future. >> in the present the authorities have their work cut out for them. no sign of the inmates and with a 16 hour head start, they could be anywhere. in this neighborhood there is fear because the authorities think the two viet in a meez
men. >> have you ever seen these two guys before? >> never. >> the authorities say they may be here in this community. does that scare you? >> but authorities admit they don't have any solid leads where the men are hiding out. one is scheduled for trial next month. his lawyer says his client wasn't there when the attack happened and he says he hasn't hadered from him since the escape. >> if he did reach out to you, what would you advise him? >> i think i would have to advise him to come in. i couldn't advise him to stay out there. it's just not -- it's too dangerous for him and for everybody else. >> would you tell him this is stupid what he did, because it is. >> it's against the law. i can't advise him to commit a crime. >> but you think this is stupid, right? >> the odds of getting away totally are so remote that it probably is not a very smart move. >> if and when these inmates are
caught, escape charges at the very least will be added to their rap sheets. the city where this jail is located is the county seat of orange county and there are many cameras in the area. authorities are going through the cameras to see what they might be able to learn about the escape. a large reward is being offered. anyone will get $200,000. >> and thanks for that report. a short break. when we come back, apple reported the biggest profit in u.s. hrks, but it says his era of unprecedented sales growth may be coming to an end. now that karen's taking osteo bi-flex,
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welcome back everybody. you're watching cnn newsroom live in los angeles. others who had occupied a federal wild life refuge in oregon have been arrested. another protester was killed as law enforcement confronted the group during a traffic stop tuesday. >> california authorities have increased the boentty on the heads of three fugitive prisons. they've ramped up the number of officers searching for these dangerous men. the inmates broke out of the orange county jail on friday after cutting through a metal plate. >> donald trump says he will skip the presidential debate in the latest with the long running
feud with megyn kelly. he says kelly is biassed against him. >> apple has posted the biggest quartly profit ever in u.s. history. the tech company reported nearly $76 billion in revenue. up by 2%. >> growth was slow with phone sales barely beating last year's numbers. they predict sales will fall for the first time in 13 years. >> i'd like to say thank you for getting the memo about what to be wearing. >> it was last minute. thank you for having me. >> it's a strange day, isn't it, when the company posts the biggest profit in u.s. history and says there's trouble. >> that could only happen to apple. so what happens is that number one apple they're kind of matching year ago quarter earnings. they made $76 billion both times
and phone sales are flat. it shows that growth is slowing down. this is an explosive company and it's time to slow time. i think that's scaring people. >> the phone is apple's main engine for grown have growth. if the sales are slowing down what does it means for their future. >> next quarter the phone sales ping lower than the year before. what it means is that apple can't live off the phone. the other issue is that apple releases a new phone every two years. in a statistic that aton issued me is tim cook said five people have not up graded. there's a huge potential for growth when they change the phone. >> who is eating apple's lunch here. >> people who aren't buying new phones. >> they're just not buying?
>> they're not buying the new phone and the phones looked like this for the last two years and no one cares if it changes inside. it apple changed this every year, people would buy it. >> we in the that the mack is down as well. they're having problems. >> mack sales are down. >> it's beyond the phone though. >> what people need to understand is that apple is becoming reliable sustainable company. they're becoming a micro soft. they're becoming a reliable company, not a company that's going to grow 20% every year. company's knts do it forever. it's not possible. >> one thing which kept apple's numbers up was good sales in china. is that your strategy here to try and basically make up for lack of sales in places like the united states or do they go the
other way and they start saying it's time to develop new technology. they haven't brought out anything good for a while. >> well, the apple watch came out. >> it's so lame. >> that's not the point. they did actually create something. >> it was lame. i know who you're saying. >> listen, so two-thirds have come outside the u.s. he said instead of 2% this quarter it would have been 8% if not for the foreign exchange number. apple is going to need a plan b. they need new growth. >> do they give any insight as to where the innovation will go? >> so today tim cook was kind excited. he said it's interesting, but typical apple we're not going to know it until the day they're ready to release it and that's kind of frustrating. >> you know why the phones are
so slow, it's no longer cool. i got up my first one last year. >> now it's really uncool. >> he really killed it. >> but hopefully they'll change it in a few months. >> and you'll be lagging behind. >> appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for following the memo about the red. oil prices are over $30 a barrel. there are mixed reactions to that. this comes on the heels of a rough trading day on tuesday. let's look at the number. the australian down by one an and a quarter percent. and of course hong kong up there almost by 1.5%. >> despite the low oil prices, iran continues to open new
refining facilities. >> cnn has more on the biggest gas field, which is the biggest in the world. >> even from far away the flames recollection ma the location of iran's most ambitious gas project. the complex already has several working refineries. this one opened two weeks ago. maintenance workers make sure everything is functioning. >> that's a minor problem, not a major problem. repairing activities on the pumps. >> the complex services the south gas field which lies in the persian gulf. it's the biggest gas field in the world with around 1,800 trillion cubic feet of reserves. >> despite the low gas prices, iran is moving ahead with the
development of this facility. it's not going to be refineries, there's going to be ports and chemical companies, making this one of the biggest complexes of its kind in the world. construction is in full swing at several on the refinery sites in the complex. sanctions against iran held the project up, but they never stopped the development. >> we found a solution for each problem we faced regarding the sanctions, but you can see that in five years, more than five years, we have built this big plant. this is $4.5 billion project. >> now that sanctions have been lifted, those in charge of the mega complex want to accelerate construction, even though the managing director says it will continue to rely on iranian suppliers. >> we've got even more than 65 more or less about 70% of the
material by the iranian manufacturing. iranian did the local manufacturing for the vessels and for the tank and for the machine. >> iran is poised to become one of the biggest exporters of oil and gas in the world now that sanctions have been lifted. the south gas field and this mega refining complex are key to the country's future. cnn, iran. a program in south africa is under fire. we'll look at why students must take a virjty test to keep their funding. there has to be a way. carry the centimeter, divide by 3.14 something something something... [ beeping, whirring ] great caesar salad! ♪ and now the name your price tool shows people policy options to help fit their budget. is that a true story? yeah!
assets to cover the expenses and delay in family reunfiction. >> critics say the true intent is to discourage assume lum seekers from reaching denmark. >> well refugees the uncertainty of what the future will bring is made worse by cold and harsh wind have wintsers. >> others dream of returning to their homes one day. >> reporter: it's cold. it's grim and it's unfor giving this is winter. this family has lived through three winters here. for them the season means time for traditions from home. they sing this song for syria.
syria don't forget us, we will return, hope is still alive, they sing, but these are just words. they don't think they'll ever see syria again. 18-year-old would like to go to europe or canada. living here is not a life. it's an existence, she says. this man and his wife won't risk their children's lives to reach europe, instead they will wait to be resettled by the united nations. >> the syrians want to return back to their villages and homes. europe is an alan concept for them. they're scared. for them to put their lives at risk and their children's lives at work to make this journey wouldn't it be better to provide support to countries to help these countries do what they want to do which is provide the protection. >> around 80,000 syrians live here in this refugee camp it has
involved into a city with markets, restaurants and schools and there are weddings that take place her daily and 50 to 60 babies are born every week. >> this camp is the only home this child has known. when her father and her family fled, they thought it would be for a few months. that was in 2012. of course we expect and hope to return, even if it doesn't happen until this baby turns 60 we will continue to hope. with no end in site to the conflict back home people old and young can only wonder how many more winters like this they'll have to endure. such awful conditions. to africa now in a news fellowship program is stirring up controversy because it requires recipients to remain
virjens. >> reporter: are some of the final days at home. spending time with her gradienty and young sister before she eds had to the city for college. an accomplished student she won a government scholarship, one of the main requirements that she remain a virgin. to stay with the program she must subject mits to tests. if she fails the test, she loses her funding. >> i'm 18 years old and i have -- >> she's known as a maden where virginity testing is common practice. here tradition rules, but activists call the scholarship invasive and sexist. >> you say it's discriminating because it's based on someone
being a virgin. >> i need to support them. >> the mayor thought up the virg virgin only slor ships? she was a team mother herself. >> she have tried ways to cut down on the teen-age pregnantsy and infection of hiv. >> nothing is working? >> nothing is working. >> in this part of south africa, the cards are stacked against girls finishing school. they exchange money for sex. when girls get pregnant, they drop out. >> young girls are vulnerable. they can't refuse to have sex with an older person. they can't instruct an old man to beer a condom. >> south africa's main parties has lodged a complaint with the human rights commission. >> no worry, it's my choice.
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u.s. army master sergeant refused to allow his captainers to separate and kill the jewish soldiers at a pow camp. they honored him last year for his bravry. >> we're live. he performed an incredible act of bravry, yet it was a secret he took to his grave. >> that's right. it was a secret he never shared with his family and it was a matter of doing what was required for his men and his country. his son would ask him tell me about your experiences during the war, but for years he kept it to himself for whatever reason. his said he was perhaps too humble. he saw it has his duty to protect his men and his country master sergeant had only been in europe a few days when he was captured by the naz i.
he was tested in a confrontation with a nazi doctrine. he was ordered to separate his jewish soldiersened. he refuse nds and the next morning his 1,200 american soldiers stood together. one of his soldiers recounts thedy fie answer. >> he says you can't all be jewish. someone said we're all jews here in this german angry takes out his gun, points it at his head and said you will order the jewish american soldiers to step forward or i will shoot you right now. >> he stood his ground and the camp commander stormed off. he had saved his men. within months the war was over and he was home.
he never shared the story before he passed away from 1985, not even with his son. >> i'd ask him from time to time as i go the older, dad, tell me about your army experience. son, there's just some things i'd rather not talk about. >> he discovered his father's story in a 2008 new york times article. >> you look at your dad as a hero, but i never knew he had a cape hanging in his closet and he did. >> master sergeant edmonds is the first american soldier honored as righteous among the jews. edmonds awarded the recognition he never started, his war which started in defeat on the battlefield ended in victory for his men. >> it was incredible listening to that commander. he will be therefore that ceremony as well as soldiers who were saved that day.
i know that the ceremony honing him will be attended by a very special guest. >> reporter: absolutely. president obama will for the first time kmet rate the day. he is the key note speaker honoring his decision on that day to save the jewish american soldiers. i spoke with his son who was very much looking forward to seeing the president speaking in honor of his father. >> i'm sure he is. joining us there. appreciate it. thank you so much. it was remarkable on this day, the sirens will go off across israel and they go for two long minutes and everyone stands there and they think and they remember what happened and it is haunting and moving and it is something that being there and seeing it and experiencing
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. tonight, no vaccine, no cure. women in el salvador urged not to have women for two years. what can stop the zika virus from spreading and threatening every unborn child across the americas. we go to ground jezero in brazi. and the island president who held his first cabinet meeting is freed from jail. and high profile lawyer clooney. >> at the moment, the government still says we want him back in a prison cell in 30 days and his only crime is being a real threat to the government.
♪ good evening everyone and welcome to the program. i'm cri i'm pregnant woman fear for the lives of their unborn children as it's strongly believed that the virus causes horrible birth deflects, including shrunken heads. people are frantically spraying their towns trying to eradicate the mesquitosquito that causes virus. and other cities have already called theirs off. carnival. and it's causing so much alarm in el salvador, that the government has advised not to
have babies for two years. >> translator: if i wasn't pregnant at the time of the news, i would have waited for sure. >> a horrible dilemma and the zika virus is also believed to be sexually transmitted as they warn it could spread to almost every corner of south, central and north america. we explore this crisis with a leading expert in the studio and with our shasta darlington who joined me from brazil as the government there tries to pulling out all the stops now. shasta, you are in brazil in what i believe is ground zero of the athorbuthorities attempt toa hold on this. >> reporter: it's pretty frightening. in a normal year, you only see
about 140 cases of these birth defects in brazil. and here in this state, you only see about nine. they're seeing hundreds of them. in fact, more than a thousand cases. we've been to see some of the doctors treating these patients. this is devastating for the entire state. this used to be a vaccination clinic. nave rr h they had to turn it into a center for physical therapy. the zika virus propped up in the first half of last year for the first time and doctors tend to shrug it off. but a few months later, they noticed a huge spike in these birth defects. one doctor said the scary thing is we get the feeling this is the tip of the iceberg. what we're seeing after less than a zeer aftyear after the zs
being hereof. >> and of korcourse for pregnan women it must be extremely terrifying. and we're going to turn to professor infectious diseases. it sounds like hel. have we ever seen anything quite this frightening before? >> we have seen many emerging infections. we've not seen this particular infection. >> what is so special bot this one? i mean, for pregnant women, it's the ultimate nightmare. >> it's transmitted by mosquitos to humans and when they get infected, they are sick, sometimes not sick and they don't know they're infected and if ne'a they're pregnant, they have a birth defect. >> we have quite a lot, if not most of latin america. we have mexico, central america and if i press my hand here,
we'll see their rr py're predicl of latin america except chill e and all of this part, except for canada can be infected. >> and the danger is it will come to europe eventually as well. because one infection in one country is an infection in all countries today. >> in the not too distant past we've had aids, ebola in africa. each and every one of those was considered to have been recognized too late. what is it that makes this recognizable too late? you heard the health minister originally said don't worry, it's a benooirign disease. >> it was in you gauganda in ths
and now it's on the move, it will continue to move. there's no cure for this infection. rits it's a new infection. so, no cure or vaccine. >> we have standing by the new york times reporter based there. if you can hear me, how afraid are the people there? >> reporter: the people don't seem all that worried. it's more government seems to be expressing extreme sort of ideas about having kids for two years. but when you talk to people in el salvador, most of them have a humorous response that they're not supposed to have children for two years. it hasn't reached the level where people are feeling this. >> and the government is sort of -- i suppose -- trying to encourage people to use contraception and it's a very
catholic country. >> reporter: the church hasn't said anything yet. they're not coming out and saying two year s contraception is unacceptable. but they're also not saying we need to put aside our moral preoccupations. and they did say they're completely supportive of using contraception and whether that's pills or condoms scondoms. i think 50% of the country is self- self- self-described as roman catholic. >> and we saw the government sending fumeigators around various houses. dr. hamen, is there something about our world today, something about the way the climate is? some have said there's so much warm weather where it didn't used to be that it's a pufferfe
breeding ground for these diseases. >> that's right. it is a perfect storm and that's even worse because of globalization and the easy travel. people can travel around the world when they're infected and not know they're infected and take a disease to another continent or place. insects travel around the world in airplanes. as well as food and livestock. so, we're seeing a world that's globalized that spreads infection around. >> how long until a cure and what about when everyone goes to rio for the 2016 olympics? >> i'm sure the pharmaceutical industry is already working hard and i'm sure national institutes are ready to begin research but it will take time. >> and do you think this enormous population coming to
brazil right now can exacerbate it? >> it depends on what happens in rio, whether they're able to control the mosquito vekter or not. get rid of standing water and if that can be done, then there won't be a risk at the olympics. if it can't be done, it will be a risk to people that olympics. >> thank you indeed for joining us. >> thank you. >> and this just in to cnn. one person in the u.s. state of arkansas has tested positive for the zika virus after recently returning from the country. that comes from centers for disease control. and we leave this crisis for a recently liberated environmental champion. my interview with the former president of the mall deez and his lawyer, celebrating success and asking what's next. we'll be back after a break. wll
maldives president now in london. he became fames for winning the first democratic elections in 2008 and holding his first cabinet meeting under water to warn what climate change and rising seas could do to his low lying island nation. he's now got a 30-day medical reprieve thanks to international pressure and the refound tnound rights lawlawyer, amal clooney. welcome to the program. you've been in solitary confiemco confinement for so long. how does it feel to be out and reunited with your family? >> it's always lovely to be free, if only for a short period of time. i spend most of my adult life in
jail. >> that's a pretty remarkable thing to say. i've spent most of my adult life in jail. >> i wouldn't recommend anyone doing that either but unfortunately we've had a situation where most basic individual human rights are denied and my work has taken me into conflicts with the dictatorship that has been intrenched for so many years. >> let me ask you, amal, from that point of view. you've done it again. you've got another guy back in jail. pleased? >> it was a really emotional moment to be at the airport with his wife and reunited with his children and we went almost straight away to downing street. >> we have that picture right there. >> an invitation from prime minister cameron.
>> why did you go straight to downing street? >> we've been engaged with the u.k. and the e.u. on this case. we've had the strong support of the prime minister himself and also the foreign office here and secretary kerry in the u.s. recognizing that there were violations and calling for him to be released. >> where do we go from here? you've been granted, i believe, a 30-day reprieve to have back surgery. is that going to happen? >> well, i've had this chronic back aches for quite some time. i was twice in my 20s and then again have restrain being in these conditions, it doesn't help my condition. so, the doctors, the prison doctors said that i should have surgery. >> you can imagine and this is to both of you, the maldivan
government is probably already having questions about releasing you. they don't like the fact that you're taking to the media and talking. what do you say about that? >> i think they're doing the least they have to do based on the amount of international pressure they feel. they say they're doing this for humanitarian reasons and they've known that he had to seek medical treatment abroad and they've been reluctant to agree to it until we case our case to the u.s. and brought it to the e.u. too and only when they felt there could be real consequences to their increased authoritarianism if they actually budged and they will do it in the most limited matter that international committee has gotten away. >> you must have thought you went to heaven when she took your case? >> she's an excellent lawyer. >> do you go back after 30 days?
what happens next? >> that's what i'm having this conversation with my lawyers. and see what i should be doing. ideally, i would like to go to free and political activties can happen. >> do you want to be president again? >> i think i will have to fight the next election. it's unfinished business. everything seems to be very half baked but i would rather sit and read but i think and there's a lot that has to be done. >> they charged you on terrorism charges, right. you've said publicly that because of isis and all the terrorism around the world, it's only a matter of time before we see a major attack on the tourist beaches of the maldives.
>> i think people are shocked to understand that they have the highest per capita rate of recruits for isis in the world. and the government at the moment is just turning a blind eye to that. so, when people return to the country, they don't prosecute them. there was a pro isis rally in the street of mali and nobody was arrested. and instead they're arresting opposition lidereaders. and president nasheed was behind bars and we're delighted he's here but at the moment the government still wants him back in a prison cell in 30 days. they don't want to see him run in 2018 because they probably think he'll win the elections and he's been the most moderate, inspirational leader that country's ever had and they shouldn't have the right to just take away the right for the
people to vote for him if thats are e rr what they want. >> why is there this flourish of a hard line islam? this must have been going on. >> since the '70s, like many other islamic societies, have been changing. we've taken on a very narrow understanding of islam. and that understanding has very much become the mainstream. >> do you think like amal and everybody's terrified that they could pick up ak-47s and do carnage on the beaches. >> well, i think we have to be very, very careful. i think the government needs to do a lot more insecuring our people, securing our society. as well as our trade. i think there's a whole lot more than has to be done and there's lot of money involved in
recruitment of terrorists and if these recruitment rings, networks are not found and rooted out, it's going to be difficult for us to address that. we have just last week even more people going. >> 11 more have gone to isis? >> yes. >> so, it's increasing? >> it hasn't stopped. >> thank you very much for joining us today. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> and from new found freedom for nasheed in london, to the high price tag for freedom in denmark. last week on this program, a danish member of parliament said that asking for syrian refugees to pay for housesiing is the sa they ask of their own citizens.
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and finally, tonight, as the iranian president rounds off his roman holiday, he's been the first iranian leader to enjoy the sites and scenery of italy in over a decade. after wrapping up a trade and spending wibonanza, he visited e pope at the vatican and went to see the ancient art. well, some of it. tonight, we imagine a world
afraid to bare all, because while he enjoyed this equestrian statue, many of the other great butteies have been covered up, or sensored. this showed the white boxes to protect the modesty of the museum's nudes or perhaps the senseativity of an islamic president. no such from the leonardo decap glowing. giggles aside, one question does remain. if he didn't see any of this museum's marvelous marvels, what did he see? that's it for our program tonight. and remember you can now also listen to our podcast and follow me on facebook and twitter. thank you for watching and good bye from london.
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