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bernie sanders and hillary clinton in a dead heat in iowa. their strategies to bring in new voters. and new arrests in the oregon militia standoff. we have the details ahead. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> and i'm miguel marquez. >> you kind of look like john berman. >> only. it is thursday, january 28th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. tonight, seven republican candidates debate each other in iowa. minus donald trump. for the first time, donald trump pulling out of the fox debate. citing issues with megyn kelly. bill o'reilly spoke to trump. >> they will have terrorists coming at you. as a president, you have to rise
above that and do what is best for the country. this exposition we're talking about today, people will say you know trump is too self absorbed to beme to be president. >> there has to be something. you set the all-time cable record in history. >> they want to know you. >> that's fine. a lot of people do know me. >> you are not giving them the opportunity to know them. >> i'm not walking away. >> now trump campaigning late into the night barely mentioning the debate feud. cnn's jim acosta has more. >> reporter: christine and miguel, during a rally in south carolina, donald trump largely steered clear of the controversy surrounding his decision to drop out of the fox news debate. the campaign made it official issuing a press release saying trump will appear at arrival event during the debate. trump would only say briefly during the rally here in south
carolina that he felt he has been treated very unfairly by fox news at previous debates. here is more of what he had to say. >> can you believe we already had six debates? when i did this, i never debated before. i create jobs, i do deals, i build buildings. i never debated. i get on the stage for the first he did bai debate. i got a very unfair question from somebody, i don't talk about that. i refuse to talk about that. >> reporter: asked whether trump would appear at his rally and the debate in iowa, his campaign manager said it wasn't feasible. talking to some trump supporters in south carolina, they sound like they will be watching him later tonight and not the debate. christine and miguel. >> jim, thank you for that. let's break down the debate controversy. we have political reporter tom
lobianco with us. we have a mash up of the competitors and what they are saying about trump ducking the debate. >> apparently mr. trump considers megyn kelly very, very scary. >> all the press is here. 90% of coverage on this whole thing. donald trump's not go to show up. ted cruz is challenging him to a one-on-one debate. interesting side show. >> it seems weird in the fact that he thinks he's treated unfairly when he will be president of the united states? life's unfair. you know? >> whether you are treated unfairly or not is relatively irrelevant. >> i don't think he will be missed. >> it is a mistake by donald. things don't always go your way. i got sent down to the undercard debate. i didn't think it was fair. i didn't whine and moan and complain and walk away. >> one thing we learned from the election season, tom, when you
have a playbook and donald trump does something that the playbook says would be bad for him, it's only good for him. does this move help donald trump or does it help any of the men who were just criticizing him? >> i think the playbook here is that always keep the cameras and the attention always trained on yourself. that's what trump's doing here. again, it's incredible. last week he brings out the big endorsement. pulls the spotlight right back on himself. he says he will not attend the debate. he threatened this multiple times before. it is funny. the way he did it is guy goading fox into this. putting up a twitter poll. who thinks i ought to debate with fox. when they blasted out the statement is when he fired back saying i'm treated unfairly.
it's brilliant the pr strategy. the political strategy. keeping everything trained on himself. especially when it most matters. right now before the iowa cau s caucus caucuses. >> it gets him attention. it will only be brilliant if he wins iowa. he is at 37%. cruz is at 31%. cruz is trying to make this a two-person race all the while. here is what cruz had to say. >> i don't think he is afraid of megyn and i don't think he is afraid of me. i think he is afraid of the men and women of iowa. he is campaigning telling people he's a conservative. his record is directly contrary to what he's saying. >> the bottom line is does this -- it seems a risky strategy. he can look like the cry baby or the tough guy who's not going to take it. where does it come down?
>> you know, it is interesting you bring up cruz. a lot of the thinking is he would perform worse in a head-to-head match up with cruz. what he needs is a spread out field. this is playing out on the democratic side. the only difference is the number of candidates in the field. as long as he is pulling 25% or 30% in a wide open republican field, he's winning. if it is a head-to-head match up, that is tenuous. cruz's people know that. that is why they are going at trump with this. they say they got the venue booked. that's what they want to do. they know. >> for as fascinating as the republican side is, the democratic side is interesting. bernie sanders besting now hillary by one point in iowa. i know it is interesting. because of the way the democrats
caucus in iowa, when o'malley's voters don't get to a number, will they move over to clinton and she will handily win iowa? >> that is one of the key questions here. there's a few questions left on the democratic side. one is turnout. clinton and obama. not obama, i'm sorry, sanders. i'm sure the sanders people love that slip. they all said that the turnout is huge. if that drives up numbers, most people see that benefitting bernie sanders. the other question mark is what happens with o'malley's people. you have to get to that baseline in caucus goers. otherwise, they become detached and can go anywhere. it can split 50/50. in some ways, it is like dibide
and he announced he would not run. those numbers went to clinton at the start, but ended up splitting 50/50. those are the two questions. turnout. >> tom, thank you so much. i know counting down to iowa. thank you, sir. time for early start on your money. asian shares finished lower. we are watching european stocks and u.s. stock futures turning higher here. here was the problem. federal reserve said that the u.s. economy lost momentum at the end of the year. added a line of the global turmoil. worry about slower growth overseas. the fed did not raise interest rates. it suggested a march interest rate hike is still in play. again, the fed saying that the growth was slowing in the u.s. something that really concerned folks. the dow jones industrial average down 200 points yesterday.
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overnight in oregon. three men who had been hunkered down in the refuge have turned themselves in. this after the protest leader asked his followers to end the nearly month-long occupation after his arrest on tuesday. more from cnn's dan simon in oregon. >> reporter: christine, things are tense here as you have occupier as the refuge. it is unclear when this may come to an end. we should tell you, ammon bundy, through his lawyer, is telling everyone who is still there to go home. in his words, they should go home and hug their families. right now, who knows if they heed that call. nobody wants to see a repeat of bloodshed after the occupier killed during the traffic stop. >> they continue to ignore us and push us to the point where we have to stand to defend our rights. >> we were willing to sacrifice
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militia standoff as the occupation leader urges protesters to go home. welcome back to "early start." i'm miguel marquez. >> i'm christine romans. tonight, seven republican candidates debate each other in iowa minus donald trump. trump pulling out of the fox news debate. citing bias on the part of megyn kelly. last night, bill o'reilly urged trump to change his mind. >> would you consider, i want you to consider, all right. think about it. look, i might come back. forgive, go forward, answer the questions, look out for the folks. i want you to consider it. you owe me milk shakes. i'll take them off the ledger if you consider it. >> well, even though you and i had an agreement you wouldn't ask me that, which we did, i
will forget that you asked me that. it's up to fox. >> you are actually telling the truth there. >> you actually did break the agreement. >> you are telling the truth. >> i told you up front, don't ask me that question. >> donald trump trying to control the conversation and unhappy when he almost couldn't. campaigning into the night barely mentioning the debate feud. cnn's jim acosta has the latest. >> reporter: during a rally, donald trump largely steered clear of the controversy surrounding the decision to drop out of the fox news gop debate. his campaign issued a press release saying trump will appear at a rival event during the debate. trump said briefly in south carolina that he felt he has been treated unfairly by fox news at previous debates. >> can you believe we already had six debates? can you believe? when i did this, i never debated
before. i created jobs and do deals and build buildings. i get on the stage a number of months ago, i had no idea. it worked out fine. i got a very unfair question from somebody. we don't talk about that. i refuse to talk about that. >> reporter: asked whether trump could appear at both his rally and debate in iowa, his campaign manager said it wasn't feasible. talking to trump supporters in south carolina, they sound like they are watching him tonight and not the debate. christine and miguel. >> reporte >> jim, thank you. who better to break down the issues is brian stelter. on the media and journalism beat, there is no other story than donald trump acting as executive producer of his own
brand going to war with fox news. saying in that interview that bill o'reilly broke the deal. >> trump is not budging one bit. he is clear about the event he is holding tonight. he is counter programming the debate like only a tv producer could. he does have a mind of a tv programmer. he is doing this in a way that has fox off guard. fox usually has power. roger ailes usually has control. >> trump has the control. >> yes, excuse me. >> here is my theory on it. he shows up at the debate and creates more controversy. >> i would not rule it out. we are 15 hours away from the debate. anything can happen. we know that. he will be in iowa.
he will be a few miles away from the debate. i'm not going to rule it out. i think in the television world, we all have been wrong before with donald trump. that said, he has made a commitment for raising money for veterans. if he did not have the event tonight, he could flip flop and back out of a fund raising event. that would not look good. he would have to do both. >> when you go back to the tv business. the tick tock of the story. could it be that donald trump did not want to debate? he had everything to lose. zero to gain. he has used the debate stage. he has driven ratings and taken credit for it. driven up ad rates. now he is done with them. >> i think many people subscribe to that theory. for fox, this is about defending megyn kelly. she will be on the stage tonight no matter what. they are taking a stand for
journalistic independence here. i think the view at fox is he wanted a way to get out of the debates. he wanted to avoid this. he is using megyn kelly as an excuse. >> he clearly seems to have serious personal issue with megyn kelly. this force, this family fight, this fox family fight in the open. >> something that usually happens behind closed doors. in many ways, fox, trump and roger ailes and megyn kelly should be allies. trump time and time again continues to show he doesn't play by the, not rules, but standards or norms. he is creating new norms as he goes along. with the fox fight, if he appears to win against fox, there is nothing else. fox is the standard bearer for republicans. >> i want the mash up of the
competitors and what they are trying to say and do. they are trying to use this as a moment for them to breakout. listen to what they have been saying. >> apparently mr. trump considers megyn kelly very, very scary. >> all the press is here. 90% of the coverage is on this thing. donald trump's not go to show up. ted cruz challenging him to a one-on-one debate. interesting side show of that. >> seems kind of weird in the fact he thinks he is treated unfairly. when he will be president of the united states? life's unfair. >> whether you are treated unfairly or not is relatively irrelevant. >> i don't think he will be missed. >> i think it is a big mistake by donald. i said that. things don't go your way. i got sent down to the undercard debate by fox. i didn't whine and moan and complain and walk away. >> could they watch their
candidate on one screen and on the split screen watching what everybody else is saying? >> it will be a social media moment to have the split screen. rubio said this is a side show. trump understands that better than anybody. he is the show. it is what voters and viewers are paying attention. look at the twitter traffic. he has been off the charts compared to other candidates. it can be dismissed as a side show. i think it is the main event. >> it is remarkable that a republican candidate cannot get on with fox news in the past and now he is testing that. >> it is trump made the debates more relevant. he brought record viewership. maybe he can show they are irrelevant. >> for media and politics to money. thank you, brian. time for an early start on your money. federal reserve says the u.s. economy slowed down at the end of last year.
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president is drumming up inve investment for the country. miguel. >> what a fascinating time to be there. i'm glad you are keeping the finger on the iranian pulse there for us. amazing you are there and that story is happening as only cnn can bring it. thank you, fred. the zika virus has the potential to become an explosive pandemic and urging the world health organization to take action. a vaccine could be ready for two years, but maybe a decade before it is available to the public. a dozen caribbean nations holding a summit in ecuador on the outbreak. thousand of cases in brazil and colombia. it has spread to some 20 countries. zika infections behind to a rare birth defect. let's get an early start on your money. u.s. stock futures turning higher after a horrid performance yesterday after the
federal reserve said the economy slowed down at the end of last year. the fed showing worry of slow growth, but kept to the game plan. the fed did not raise interest rates, but suggested a march rate hike is still in play. the dow and s&p down 8% this year. nasdaq plunged 11%. apple was down 6% yesterday after it warned that sales would slow this quarter for the first time in 13 years. facebook shares, though, up some 12% before the bell. it wowed investors with soaring sales and profit user growth and mobile ads were strong. facebook topped $1 billion in profit for the first time ever. $1.6 billion. more than double a year earlier. it kept adding more people and making more money off each one of them at the same time. another for-profit college in trouble with the government. devry university university
deceived students about getting a job. 90% of grads after 1974 found a job within six months. the ftc says that is deceptive. shares of the parent company fell 15% on the news. from the ftc to the department of education, the obama administration has been toughening its stance on the for-profit colleges. many students want to know what the return is on the investment. in just hours, republicans running for president face-off on the debate stage except for the frontrunner donald trump. "new day" starts right now. >> i have zero respect for megyn kelly. i don't think she's very good at what she does. >> apparently mr. trump considers megyn kelly very, very scary. >> answer the questions, look out for the folks. just want you to consider it. >> i don't like being taken advantage of.
in this case, i was taken advantage of by fox. >> things don't always go your way. >> think about it. say look, i might come back. >> all this pundits. geniuses. you're morons. can the people of flint today drink the water? >> no. we don't want them to. >> snyder must resign. >> this is "new day." >> good morning. welcome to your new day. it is january 28th, 6:00 in the east. up first, donald trump standing firm on his plans to boycott's tonight fox news debate. the republican frontrunner announcing plans to host a veterans benefit in iowa at the exact same time his rivals will be debating. trump's war with fox news taking center stage. trump says this is about an eye for an eye.
>> meanwhile, trump's rivals accused him of being afraid to answer tough questions and they're hoping to seize on his absence tonight. just four days until the iowa caucuses and this race continues to heat up. let's begin our coverage with phil mattingly. he's live in des moines, iowa. good morning, phil. >> reporter: good morning, allison. he's not bluffing. the tickets are available. it's not going to be taking place behind me. donald trump's feud with fox definitely escalating over the last 24 hours and now he's going to be missing the debate that will be taking place right behind me in just a few hours. puts a lot of things in flux right now and is frustrating a lot of campaigns. donald trump only hours away from hosting his "special event to raise money for veterans at drake university in des moines. the televised affair airing the same time as fox's trumpless primetime debate. >> what we have going, it's really important, it's a movement. it's not like a norm