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hello, everyone. thanks for joining me, i am fredricka whitfield. two days now until the first votes are cast in the 2016 presidential election. thanks for being with us. complete coverage from iowa this hour. the candidates are fanned out across the state in a last minute push to get voters on their side before caucuses. live pictures now of rallies for hillary clinton and marco rubio, which are about to get under way there. clinton just picked up an endorsement from "the new york times" editorial board, as did republican john kasich for the gop nominee. jeb bush is also already on the way to a second event of the day in clear lake, iowa. in fact, let's go out to des moines, iowa now and find john berman. it is a busy day on the trail for all of the candidates who are trying to if they haven't turned heads already, trying to make it happen at least today and tomorrow before the
caucusing. >> yeah. they sure are. they're all out today. we've seen so many events, so many still to come. we're getting a lot of great interviews. the candidates are talking to cnn. why? they want to send a last minute message to voters here. cnn just caught up with hillary clinton. hillary clinton about to take the stage in ames, iowa, home of iowa state university. she spoke to dan merica about the e-mail controversy, 22 e-mails held saying they contain top secret information. the producer asked could e-mails provide political fodder for the republicans. listen. >> changes anything. so if there's some motivation it is not going to effect the fundamental facts because they remain the same. there have been as others have pointed out some constant leaking but my view on this, dan, is i didn't send or receive
any e-mails marked classified. i take classified information really seriously. and i just think that if the republicans want to use this for political purposes, that's their decision, but i'm going to keep talking about what the voters in iowa talked to me about. >> politics now, you ran in 2008, didn't work out how you would have liked it. how does this feel different than the 2008 campaign? >> i feel really good about my campaign in iowa. we had an amazing grass roots organizing effort. i am so proud and all of the people that put it together, literally tens of thousands of volunteers they enlisted. i think i'm different and perhaps a better candidate. i hope that also shows. >> how so? >> i think i learned a lot. also i have some additional experience that's incredibly relevant to being president and commander in chief, four years as secretary of state gave me a
front row seat, the opportunities and the perils that we face in the world. i feel really confident and very much ready to do the job. >> one similarity between '08 and now, you argued you were prepared something similar to what you are doing now. didn't work out then, why will it work out this time? >> people know we have to preserve and further progress that's been made under president obama. i don't think the great majority of democrats are open minded independents want us to rip up what we've achieved, digging our way out of the recession we were put into at the end of the last republican administration, winding down wars, trying to be smarter about how we protect ourselves, building on the affordable care act, and so much else, and i don't think most persons want to turn the clock back on the rights that have been gained. >> different now than in '08?
>> i think there's unsettled mood on the republican side, kinds of things that are being said and proposed by all of the republican candidates, so yes. every election has its own mood, but for most americans they can't wait for progress, they can't wait to get prescription drug costs down, can't wait for good jobs with rising incomes. they can't wait around while we get thrown into another contentious national debate or while republicans try to dismantle the progress we made. >> you mentioned obama couple times in this interview and on the stump. do you feel like you have his support? >> we started off as rivals as you know, fought a hard campaign against each other. then when he won, i immediately went to work to get him elected. i was surprised when he asked me to be secretary of state. we became close partners in his administration and became real friends and i have a very high
level commitment to making sure that he is recognized for his accomplishments. i don't think he gets the credit he deserves for saving the economy, and i will stand up against republican attacks on him personally and on his record. i know how hard it is to do what he has accomplished, and i want to build on that, i don't want us to go back. i want to keep going forward. >> really interesting. that was cnn digital reporter speaking to hillary clinton moments ago. hillary clinton has a big event in ames iowa in a few minutes, appearing with gabrielle giffords and mark kelly, she will be speaking about gun control. jeff zell ennis there in aims. and joined by patty sol east doyle who was a campaign manager in 2008, and john avalon. jeff, that was a meatier interview than i thought. hillary clinton had a lot to say to dan there.
what did you hear? >> i was struck most, john, by her reflection about the differences between 2008 and now. she said perhaps i am a better candidate. i certainly have more experience. a little more reflective than we've heard for awhile, but that's the hillary clinton you see out here on the campaign trail. in recent weeks and months. she's a sharper, better candidate than she was then. john, the question is this argument of experience is one that voters don't always recognize right away. it didn't work for her eight years ago. they sided with barack obama who had less experience than her. the question now is if it is going to work this time. i think she was reflective about the mood of the country. her campaign seems in the last couple days to be more slightly more confident, and she's more confident than she was even at the beginning of the week, john. this is so tight, so close. both campaigns are watching for the des moines register poll to
come out this evening. it is viewed as the gold standard of iowa polling. that will give a sense of how the race is shaping up between senator sanders and her. but very reflective from her as she makes her way to ames today, john. >> very interesting, jeff. patty, dan got that interview because he is intrepid reporter, but also because hillary clinton wanted to send a message out. i am wondering if she talked to dan to talk about the e-mails, i want to talk about the e-mails now, still early in the campaign to get it out there to focus on other things they don't want to focus on. the e-mails are essentially republican attacks. >> there are three things, one, the facts haven't changsd. she didn't send or receive classified information at the time sent. >> the state department is withholding them now, saying there is top secret information in them right now. >> but after the fact. classified after the fact. two, senator feinstein who has
read the e-mails said none of the e-mails originated with her, which is important. the third and most important for our purposes here in beautiful, des moines iowa, democrats don't care about this issue. they just don't. democrats trust her. i don't think it will have a huge effect on the iowa caucuses, which is what we are here now. you have to win the nomination to get into the general. in the general, this will be a bigger topic. >> e-mails have been a drag on her with the campaign, not only republicans inclined to be on her side from the giddy up, but at the town hall, bernie sanders supporters spoke about young voters didn't know she wasn't necessarily honest. the state department push off saying there's classified information and the fact it is still not a settled matter with regard to status of the investigation, those are real. they can't just be ignored. whether it has determinative impact tomorrow night, we will see, but that's still hanging over the campaign. >> patty, what about hillary clinton's comment she thinks she's a better candidate now
than eight years ago. you were there eight years ago. >> i think she's, i think she really is. she's far more comfortable in her own skin. i think four years as secretary of state made her more confident on issues, she has broad knowledge on issues of national security and foreign policy. she knows what it is like, knows what it means to have 20 hour days on the campaign trail. she knows how to interact with voters. she's much better at it. you can see it on the trail. >> john? >> one other tell from the interview, she made a point of reaching out to open minded independents. we forget in play to the base environments, there are more independents in iowa than democrats and republicans. they can register with the party and participate in the caucus. as you look to expand the base, wondering how many more voters he will bring to the table, that's vitally important for candidates to keep in mind.
last time as patty knows, it was a crowded feel. jet stream and barack obama. the fact she's specifically reaching out to open minded independents speaks the deeper strategy. >> thanks so much. big props to dan for getting that interview. really interesting to hear from secretary clinton at such length two days before the caucuses. she's not the only one on the campaign trail. hillary clinton is not the only candidate in ames. senator ted cruz has an event going on now, you can see him there. a live event there. senator cruz spending a lot of time in recent weeks trying to suggest he is the most conservative candidate, the hero of evangelicals. up until two days ago when he was talking about his opponents, though, he was talking mostly about donald trump. that all changed in the last 24 hours. now he has campaign ads up against marco rubio, his campaign staff saying things about marco rubio.
him too. here's a sample. >> caucus for cruz to undo obama's damage. the republican obama, led the gang of eight. >> the republican obama, that ad running across the state. those are not kind words in a republican primary. want to bring in cnn's reporter, talk to me about the message on the stump. >> what we are seeing from senator cruz today is really avoiding making broad attacks at any other candidates. this is a stark contrast to 24 hours ago when he was attacking marco rubio openly on the campaign trail. i think it speaks to the frantic nature of the final stretch in iowa. certainly even though while ted cruz doesn't focus on rubio today, his campaign is, with that new ad linking marco rubio,
calling him the republican obama, reminding voters here in iowa that rubio was one of the co-sponsors of the gang of eight immigration reform bill that failed in 2013. while that line of attack is not new, intensification of that line of attack is new, and certainly speaks to the growing anxiety in the cruz campaign about what an eventual threat marco rubio could be coming out of iowa. what they're trying to do is stop momentum, doesn't post big numbers going into the new hampshire, south carolina, and one big reason we are seeing not only on the campaign trail and by the campaign, but intensified devotion of resources, cruz campaign, taking money they were attacking donald trump with and moving it to marco rubio. john? >> you speak of money. i was looking at a fund-raising pitch from ted cruz to donors, letters that candidates send to
donors. he says attacks on him in iowa have been hurting. i imagine what ted cruz is talking about is all of the candidate talk, donald trump keeping up the attack, saying ted cruz was born in canada, not sure he is eligible to run for president, donald trump said. what are you hearing on the stump from cruz supporters at the rallies? >> reporter: i think there's awareness that attacks by donald trump hurt ted cruz to a certain extent in iowa. he was asked about allegations he is not eligible to run for president. straight from the stump speech from donald trump. voters are listening to him, talking to the candidate about that. cruz campaign is aware they might be taking a hit in the polls. since donald trump debuted that attack a few weeks ago, the cruz campaign has seen his numbers go down in iowa. they're aware and starting to hit back with more force, really
laying into being a hit on ted cruz. being about donald trump's new york values, that's how they're trying to spin it. a key part of their closing message, trying to argue here to iowa voters that donald trump could be unstoppable if it gets out of iowa. that's a message they want iowa voters to hear and want voters to come over to ted cruz. john? >> sunlen serfaty with us. if you are keeping score at home, we have seen ted cruz, we heard from hillary clinton. we're about to see hillary clinton again on the stump. and marco rubio has been hitting iowa hard this morning. right now, he's in third place in most polls, but the rubio campaign, certainly a lot of republican establishment folks want you to believe he is gaining momentum. rubio surging, being taken across hotel lobbies across the
state. an event in council bluffs in iowa, he was on the stump an hour ago, answering questions, facing voters. manu raju, what's going on inside the rubio campaign? >> they're going hard against ted cruz. in sioux city, iowa, rubio deviated from the stump speech which he doesn't do. he gives the same speech at every political event. what did he do when he deviated? he attacked ted cruz. he said ted cruz is running a deceitful campaign, said it in sioux city, iowa, a conservative part of the state, where ted cruz is drawing support, and donald trump is drawing a lot of support, and really shows how much ted cruz is on marco rubio's mind in the final days. he believes, rubio campaign believes if they have a strong third place finish, they can take it to new hampshire and make the case they can be the alternative to donald trump. if ted cruz does not end up in
first place, they believe this will be a death nail to the campaign. cruz campaign believes they can sustain a loss in iowa, they're trying to lower expectations, saying we have the money to last weeks and weeks and weeks on end, but if he doesn't win here, where does he win next? >> marco rubio on the stump now, i think he is talking ted cruz. let's listen. >> they always do it at the last minute. i am not complaining. >> you have to speak more clearly for me. >> we have to unify the party in a serious way. this election is a serious election. it is not about sideshows, who shows up at the debate. i don't really care. it gave me more time. i was fine with that. i will unite the conservative movement. but that alone won't be enough. we have to grow it. there are people out there haven't voted for a conservative in 25 years because the
democratic party told them, you know, the republicans and conservatives don't care about people like you. we will change that. not by changing our principles, that's what they used to tell us all the time. you want to win election, you have to change principles, become more like the democrats. i don't think we need two democrat parties. we need a strong national security party, strong conservative party, strong free enterprise party. that's what we will do. but we have to take the principles to people that haven't heard from us in a long time, and i will. to people out there, for example, young americans struggling under student loan debt, we have 500% increase in student loan debt in the last ten years. we will take our principles to them. because i had a student loan. i had student loans, over $100,000 two years ago, three years ago. student loans are debilitating. the only way you get rid of it is pay them off or die. only two ways. can't get rid of them with bankruptcy. never thought i would get them off my bake.
i was able to do it, i wrote a book, "an american son" it is a paper back, it is available if you're interested. >> what you saw marco rubio in council bluffs, iowa, by the end he is got the standard stump speech. but he deviated for a moment before that to talk about ted cruz. >> it is so important. so interesting how much the cruz campaign is in the rubio campaign sights. when i talk to rubio advisers, they don't think trump supporters are marco rubio supporters, but they believe ted cruz supporters are. >> or can be. >> or can be, they can convince them to flip. they believe that profile is similar. one reason they're trying to poach support from ted cruz now. they think if they can get them in their fold, they can create a coalition of conservative voters who support ted cruz, could support him and more moderate
senate right republicans. you hear him say i will unite the republican party. >> and he is dumping monday. 30 minute campaign infomercial airing across the state later today and tomorrow. interesting to see how it plays. manu raju, great to have you with us. >> thank you. a lot going on today and tomorrow. and man, a lot going on monday. the day of the iowa caucuses. cnn will be here for complete coverage live all day monday as the first votes are cast in the 2016 presidential race. we will be right back. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and
hasn't stepped foot to the stage yet, but has appeared on twitter and facebook. social media does not wait for donald trump. he thanked evangelicals for support, releasing a new video promising evangelical voters in the state and they are crucial, that he will never let them down. let's watch. >> my mother gave me this bible, this very bible many years ago. in fact, it's her writing right here. she wrote the name and my address, and it is just very special to me. and again, i want to thank the evangelicals. i will never let you down. >> don't miss the imagery. donald trump standing or sitting behind in this case right behind the bible. senior correspondent jim acosta is in dubuque where donald trump holds the first event of a very busy day, unusually busy day for donald trump, jim. >> reporter: that's right, john, we don't normally see donald trump hold these three a day
events, campaign days, yet that's what he's doing today. we understand talking to campaign staff, he will be making quite an entrance into the final weekend of campaigning before iowa caucuses, arriving here in the next hour on what is sometimes called trump force one, that's his boeing 757, it will be parked behind me, parked behind the candidate within the hour. he is making a pretty grand entrance, a huge entrance for the final campaign of the iowa caucus. i saw a guitar tuned up, i don't believe donald trump plays guitar. perhaps might be a musical guest as well. we have to wait and see. interesting when you point out that video posted on facebook this morning by donald trump thanking evangelicals in the state, it would be i think a pretty extraordinary thing for donald trump to capture iowa with backing of evangelical voters.
he sno he is not that kind of candidate, mike huckabee, santorum, ted cruz, if donald trump can run the table and defeat those candidates with evangelicals, that will be a major, major accomplishment and big victory for his campaign. the other thing his campaign is doing this morning, john, another video was tweeted out featuring his daughter, ivanka trump, explaining to voters how to go to caucus sites, show up caucus night and make sure they go through the process correctly, even pointing out to caucus goers that you have to register as a republican to participate on caucus night and on the gop side of things. i think that goes to show you there are some concerns inside the donald trump campaign as to whether or not all these new voters he is attracting, packs auditoriums, basketball arenas around the country, whether those folks actually show up and vote, we will get a better sense where the race stands later this evening when the des moines register poll comes out. that will be a good measure in
terms of where things stand in the race, and whether or not this phenomenon we have seen in the last year of donald trump rising to top of the pack in the gop race for the white house is actually going to pan out into some kind of victory caucus night. it will be the political story to watch the next 48 hours, john. >> jim acosta, the great mystery of the race. donald trump supporters, are they donald trump caucus goers. thank you, jim. we will await landing of trump force one. we are expecting jeb bush to begin a rally in the next few minutes. i think we have live pictures of perhaps where that will be. we will get to that event as soon as it begins. we will speak to one of his key advisers out what jeb bush can do leading up to the iowa caucuses to make an impact. stay with us.
speak to vfw veterans now in clear lake, iowa. that's the stage. this is one of the cases he will make, trusted leadership, stronger america. one of four events for jeb bush today. his events have been drawing bigger crowds the last several days. lot of people thought jeb bush had a good debate performance thursday night. one of the strongest in the absence of donald trump. the big question now is what does that matter. can he turn it into actual votes. joining us, michael steele, adviser for jeb bush campaign. is it a jeb bush campaign ex-cla medication point? >>. >> he's got detailed plans to fix washington, turn the economy around, defeat isis, keep the american people safe. >> talk about a path to victory. doesn't look like you're going to win iowa. >> that's a safe assumption,
although you have to earn it in iowa. that's what jeb is doing. you look at this state, chuck grassley is an icon. 22 years in the senate, never missed a vote. >> never missed a vote? who has missed a vote in the republican field? >> this is a record of achievement that a lot of people look to. >> subtle. we are looking at jeb bush, your boss, making his way to the podium. i am sure he will not mind if you speak over him as he makes his way to the stage. talk to me about this establishment food fight in new hampshire. you look at the polls, look at the number of candidates running now, appealing to the same group of voters, chris christie, john kasich, jeb bush, and even donald trump in new hampshire plays to people who may be considered moderate republicans. how do you break out. >> i think we break out having the governor with the best record of conservative achievement and best plans for the future.
>> let's talk about donald trump. jeb bush likes to talk about donald trump and brags about the fact that he has taken on donald trump when when others haven't. we are 48 hours from voters here. time to look forward and back a bit. did you ever imagine when you got into this that you would have to deal with a force like that? and what has it changed for you? >> i think donald trump changed everything in terms of the republican field this year, but as you kind of alluded to, jeb bush is the only candidate willing to take him on, call him out for not being a serious conservative and not being someone to beat hillary clinton, which is the ultimate goal. >> seems like you run more on new hampshire than iowa, you are fighting in iowa. it gives you a bit of a luxury of a broader view, as you look at the race, particularly the others now at the top, looking at donald trump, ted cruz, marco rubio, what do you make of that fight here? >> well, i think ultimately this will be a question of
leadership, who is willing to stand and fight for our conservative principles and who is going to run like a skalded cat when things get tough. >> donald trump, do you think he will attend the debate in new hampshire? >> i hope so. we missed him the other night. >> what do you mean you missed him. >> jeb is ready, willing, able to press the case for conservative reform, for his record against all of the candidates on the stage. he is happy to have donald trump there, ready to take him on. >> one of the things people wondered beyond new hampshire is south carolina. there have been discussions in the media, should george w. bush get on the trail and campaign for his brother. break some news here, tell us whether we will see the former president? >> i have no news to break, but i don't think it is a secret that governor bush loves his family, his family love him, they think he would be the best choice for commander in chief. that's important for someone that's been behind the desk, made decisions. a validater. >> michael steele. good luck. the battle for the latino
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questions about the water supply back in august, 2014. by november, the village had three wells tested, one of them exceeded epa health advisory levels for a specific industrial chemical known as pfoa. this is used in fire fighting foams, cleaning products. as a result, officials shut down that one well, started to test others throughout the year. around the same time, authorities also questioned a local company that manufacturers industrial films and tapes. the company hasn't said whether it is responsible for contamination, but they're cooperating with authorities and it is now covering costs of a $300,000 filtration system, but it's a short term solution. the company will pay for a longer term fix which could be completed by october. here's the thing, fred. it took officials over a year to advise residents not to cook or drink the water.
as a side note, officials say it is safe to shower with, but there was a complicating factor. pfoa technically is not a regulated con tap nant. there were guidelines but no standard. now there's a measure to classify it as a hazardous substance. we don't know how long residents were drinking and cooking with the water, it had high levels of the chemical which is linked to health problems. it could impact the liver, immune system, and linked to certain cancers. the state department of health is investigating rates of cancer in the area as a result of this. >> what about this saint gobain, have investigators linked contamination to that company with some certainty? >> not exactly certainty, but the government has already designated the company's plant as a possible source. again, what's crazy about this is the federal government didn't require testing for this
chemical, but there's some relief for hoosick. earlier this week, the governor's office announced the plastic company's plant and other locations that they're technically designated as a super fund site, that will make them eligible for resources and money to investigate further which they'll need. >> all right. thank you so much for that. congress will soon debate a bill to bring $600 million to flint, michigan. the money used to replace toxic water pipes and care for people who got sick from drinking tap water tainted with led. yesterday, the governor signed a bill to provide the city with $28 million. it will be used to help the children with high levels of lead in their systems. people in flint still can't drink the tap water. poppy harlow spoke with the governor about how this all happened. >> can the people of flint today as we sit here, can they drink the water?
>> no. we don't want them to. that's the terrible tragedy of all this. >> this morning as the people of flint wait and wonder if they have been poisoned by the lead in their water, michigan governor rick snyder admits he failed them and promises to fix the crisis. >> all medical experts agree no level of lead ingestion by anyone, especially children under the age of six, is okay. >> that's correct. >> you said last week over 100 children here in flint have high levels of lead in their blood. how many kids is it as we sit here today? >> it is about 100 and some if you go back over the last couple years. >> you're saying there are 100 children as of now. >> there could be many more, and we're assuming that. >> a local pediatrician, one of the first to discover lead in the water calls the impact on the children irreversible and multi generational. >> the doctor told me that what can be done is that you can minimize the impact through early literature programs,
universal preschool, access to healthy foods, say calcium binds instead of lead to the bones, mental health services. she put a price tag on it. said it would cost $100 million just to do that. will you make sure they get $100 million? >> i'm not sure she would know how to put the price tag. i have reviewed recommendations she's made and a number of those actions we were already working on doing in flint. >> she has done the analysis. i am asking you again, $100 million. will you make sure they get that if that's what they need? >> we're making sure they get what they need. >> a 2011 study found water from flint river had to be treated with an anti-corrosive agent to be safe to drink. to do that would have only cost $100 a day. that was never done. >> i was speaking with a young man this morning. and he said to me they put money over people. he said the black lives and the poor white lives weren't worth it. when you look at the numbers,
$100 a day, what happened? >> that's the failure point. i mean, in terms of cost structures, $100 a day, this is where the huge error was. there were people that were subject matter experts in this didn't believe it needed to be done. that was a huge mistake. part of the fundamental mistake of the situation. >> what do you mean. >> in terms of money given priority over the people? >> not at all. this is where the investigation will follow up and in terms of the details. we are cooperating with all those investigations, i want to find out what went on. i want the facts out there. >> kids were being poisoned by the water they were drinking. epa knew about it. your spokesman, former spokesman knew about it in july, 2015, sent an e-mail about it, and you didn't declare a state of emergency until january of this year. why did it take so long? >> actually, i learned about it in october and i took action immediately then, offering filters, working with people on
getting water, doing water testing. again, we needed to do more though. as soon as i learned about it, we took dramatic action. >> why not immediately replace all of the lead pipes. >> that's a question you can ask across the country. the challenge of that is that's not a short term project. >> flint has had people poisoned. >> that's not a short term project in terms of ripping up all of the infrastructure, replacing all of that. that can take an extended period of time. >> your former spokesman wrote an e-mail back in july of 2015. here's part of it. i'm frustrated by the water issue in flint. these folks are scared and worried about health impacts and they're basically getting blown off by us. you have said since then that you knew about that e-mail and that you were made aware of that. why not act then? >> the experts came back from department of environmental quality and health and human services to say they didn't see
a problem with lead in the water or lead in the blood. >> folks here did. they were getting rashes. their kids were having rashes. the water was discolored. >> that makes you feel terrible. i wish you would have done something different. >> as the scope of the crisis has grown, residents rallied, demanding the governor step down. >> a number of residents i have spoken with in flint have said ultimately they want accountability. governor, will you resign? >> no. again, i think it's normal, the right action is if you have a problem that happened from people that you were responsible for, you go solve it, you don't walk away from it. >> so fredricka, the question is what will the people of flint get. you mentioned $28 million approved by the state legislature. that's a start. it is nowhere near what they need. this will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. you heard the governor there saying replacing all of the pipes is not a short term
solution. i can tell you from being there, a lot of people want action immediately. he says he is committed to getting it done. i should note, two senators, two democratic senators from michigan just proposed a bill in congress for $600 million in federal funding for flint. 400 million going to replace the pipes. it will be a fight in congress. we have to keep watching. we will see what happens. >> we will watch more of that report later at 5:00 eastern in the newsroom. thanks so much. and this breaking news we are following. all three escaped inmates are back in custody after more than a week on the run. one turned himself in yesterday and the orange county sheriff's department tweeted moments ago that the other two have also been apprehended. there will be a news conference at 3:00 eastern time in about an hour and 15 minutes from now, we will bring you the latest at the top of the hour. for now we will be right back in the newsroom.
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needs, this would be the birthplace home of a u.s. president. the first time ever outside the united states. >> a canadian in the white house. >> reporter: not actually, but shocking to canadian sean miller who understood the implications of all this immediately. >> doesn't the american president have to be born in the united states? >> oh, my goodness. >> reporter: the answer to that question, according to most scholars, is, no. but what exactly is cruz' canada story? it begins in calgary in the late 1960s when his american mom, the former eleanor liz death dara's wilmington, delaware and his father of cuba moved to canada to start think business in the oil industry. easton rand knew them both and especially impressed with raphael, a geophysicist who was
making a successful business. >> a very clever man and lots of ka charisma. the capability with carharismat personalities has done well here. >> reporter: here is where their home was built, movinging up. raphael becoming established in kag gary's scientific community. >> his trademark mustache. very charismatic, very -- the center of the group. >> reporter: rand volunteered with cruz as hi ace's assistant editor for two years then suddenly in 1974, the cruz family just disappeared. >> he sold his company, and had gone back to the united states. >> were you surprised? >> yes, because i thought that his business was growing, and i
felt that he was becoming more established, and there was no reason to give it up. >> reporter: did he talk about, i'm going to go back to america? i'm going to give up on canada, i don't like canada? >> never to me. never to me. never to me. he was establishing his business here and it was successful. indeed, and there was never any sense that he was about to leave for yi reason. >> reporter: the story, according to ted cruz, it was control that changed everything. cruz says his mother and father drank too much. >> when i was 3 years old, my father decided, he didn't want to be married anymore. and he didn't want a 3-year-old son. so he got on a plane and left calgary and he flew back to texas, to houston. and he left us. >> reporter: the story goes rafael cruz went to texas, found religion, stopped drinking, brought his family to the u.s. and for the past 40 years has been a preacher. the political problem for ted cruz during all those 40 years,
while he was a u.s. citizen by birth from his mother, he was still also a canadian. a dual citizen. what makes you a canadian citizen? >> being born in canada. >> reporter: ian holloway, the dean of calgary's law school says cruz' birth certificate leaves him a canadian at least until 2014, when senator cruz said he wasn't even aware of dual citizenship and officially renounced his canadian citizenship. canada granted his request with this document. so is it fair to say that between this document and this document, he has been a canadian citizen? >> he's been a canadian citizen, all along. >> reporter: all along? cruz is not canadian anymore nap is official, but that still doesn't resolve the other lingering question -- can he become the first former canadian citizen to become president of the united states? drew griffin, cnn, calgary. all right.
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next hour to discuss the details. one of the three was captured yesterday, and police said he was cooperating in the search for the other two. cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson is with us now on the phone. in your view, joey, again, we're waiting for details, do you believe that the apprehension of one may have helped lead to the capture of the other two? >> it certainly may have, fredricka. good to be with you. first and foremost, we can talk about the breakdowns that led to the actual escape, but a think it's important also to give credit to the authorities for securing public safety, ensuring they were apprehended and are back in custody and now i think it will move to the investigative stage to find out exactly what happened. what protocols or what have you were violated, what, if any, assistance did they get and hold them accountable for having escaped in the first place. i'm sure we'll learn a lot from the press conference, well,