hours from now. turnout tonight will be the key. because this race is razor thin on both sides. can donald trump show his strong showing into caucusgoers. can hillary clinton fend up bernie sanders. first we have the iowa caucuses covered only the way cnn can. hi, sunlen. >> reporter: hi. they are so close in the latest polls. equally as important to watch is the battle for third. if marco rubio is able to close the gap and make a strong showing, that can go a long way to alter the race and change the dynamic going forward. >> you haven't had a winner in iowa in 16 years. we're going to have a winner, you better believe it. >> republicans in iowa are waking up to the final pitches
from 12 gop hopefuls. >> i'm going to ask everyone here to vote for me 10 times. stkph the candidates in red spreading across the hawk eye state, arming themselves with humor. donald trump is only five points head of senator ted cruz in the most recent poll. the front-runner is feeling the heat. continuing to suggest cruz has it in with big banks. >> he forgot to mention he has borrowed amount of money from goldman sachs at almost no interest and citi bank. >> conservative celebrities to back. >> all you ladies, that would be a duck call. let's try one more time to get trump. let's call donald duck to come
and meet with cruz to degate. >> to glenn beck voting iowans not to vote for trump. >> for my children's sake, please, dear god, if you're thinking about it, go to the bar tomorrow instead. >> with so many polling at single digits, there is a large percentage of iowa voters who could turn the tide for one of the front-runners. >> we cannot win if we are divided. >> so candidate is giving up hope. >> i'm going to win the nomination. >> candidates will be out making final pitches. ted cruz plans to rally evangelicals. it really speaks volumes at where they both need the vote. chris. >> absolutely. they know where their strengths and weaknesses are. let's discuss. we have some panel for you this morning. david greggry is with us.
you remember him from "meet the press". and chief white house correspondent for nbc news and author "how is your faith." and maeve reston and author of "too you dumb to fail." brother gregory, it is good to have you with us. we have the headline which alisyn refused to show earlier. jeb bush found a way to be first. alphabetical order. when we look at the last ditch efforts, you know the ground game very well. you always say it is important. why this year? big brains are saying it is everyone more important than the past. >> turnout becomes important because it will tell us whether he has changed the electorate. can he bring out new voters who
haven't voted before. his team is putting out huge emphasis. there is a prospect of new people coming out. if you're ted cruz, you have had a rough couple of weeks. you have to outperform in your baker's cyst evangelical base. here is what is shocking. cruz has run a good, ideological hit campaign on trump, relying on christian conservatives, splitting that evangelical vote with donald trump. >> i'm surprised to learn tonight there will be 3,362 individual caucuses held. that suggests there can be surprises ahead. >> there absolutely can. to david's point, particularly on the republican side, whether the trump voters turn out, whether ted cruz's ground game really pumps out the people they have been talk to go the last
couple of of days will be so key. of course for bernie sanders to see whether or not his people turn out, particularly the college-age students to replicate the obama coalition. there are lots of opportunities for surprises. who knows what donald trump will will do today, his final stunt. i think we will have to watch and see. >> all right. let's put these questions through the lens of how it gets interpreted within your party, matt. when we talk about these people on the edges of each party may make a bigger impact than usual, what is the dynamic it played on the republican side here? >> really in the sense we are going to set a tone. you have trump. if trump ends up winning, a party that is more working class, white, dumping down on
the republican base and the reagan democrats trump is bringing in. >> do we all agree? is trump bringing in reagan democrats? >> i think we have to wait and see. >> why do we keep hearing that? >> probably something is going to surprise us tonight. that's the one thing that almost happens. who thought rick santorum would win last name? who thought hillary clinton would win in 2008? but if you look at the polls, trump supporters are more moderate, less religious by and large than the rest of the republican electorate. he has the potential to expand the base in a direction they don't strategically want to go. if you look, they wanted to
bring in women, hispanics. this would be the other direction. >> how do you think these high-profile surrogates like glenn beck and sarah palin have played here in iowa? >> i think falwell is the most important. he is not a deeply religious guy. but he sent a message saying you may feel left behind in this political debate but i get you. if you feel culture is passing you by and your values are no longer valued, i will tell you it will matter again. that bluntless has been surprisingly strong. >> it was so important this weekend. i was in davenport saturday night. not only did trump say he was air faithful man but he talked
about his father made the decision to endorse ronald reagan, hollywood actor that had been divorced. he said he wasn't looking for the sunday school teacher in the race he was looking for somebody who could be president. they know their head is with head cruz but their heart is with donald trump. >> you also gave him a couple of good blows, trump to cruz. a quarter of the people say, well, this is something i have to think about. that margin matters here. and then goldman sachs weren't helpful either when they wound up being true, which is the worst type of attack to get picked with. >> i have been ticking ted cruz top win iowa. i think cruz has a great ground
operation. he is tailor made in terms of geography. having said that, cruz might have peaked a few weeks too early. i think donald trump has been almost surgical in going in and raising doubts about ted cruz. the whole thing about his eligibility, that's not a constitutional debate. that is reminding us he's from canada. the other thing you mentioned about goldman sachs, how many people know his wife is a goldman sachs executive and he got a million dollar loan. >> not just the likability factor. it was amazing getting out with him yesterday. every surrogate, particularly cruz, talks about how likable he is. cutting straight to the trump attacks, knowing they have really inflicted some damage the last couple of weeks. >> the thing that trump does is takes your weakness and really exploits it.
jeb being low energy really hit him where it hurt and where people got it. and ted cruz, that he is a nasty guy. that is cruz can's reputation if anybody has ever worked with him and in the senate. trump knows how to zero in on it. if you're ted cruz, if you can't win iowa with a strong, ideological hit on trump relying on a disproportionate amount of voters in iowa, i want to make the argument that maybe he becomes irrelevant moving forward. >> and marco rubio -- >> is a much more -- here's the other thing for cruz. huckabee, santorum, they're not doing much here. maybe they have 5% in the polls. i'm surprised it's snowing inside the building. >> your first snow. we'll figure that out. let's take a quick break and be
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race for votes in iowa. we have to follow all of this late into the night as it goes on here. we have a great panel to discuss. we have full coverage. jeff ze will heleny joins us wi state of play. >> hillary clinton is closing this campaign very strong. most top democrats believe is she has a slight advantage going into the evening. bernie sanders last night urged supporters to start fighting the establishment right here in iowa. >> and i think we can have -- >> a furious fight to the finish. >> i will fight for you in the white house. >> it sounds you want to make a political revolution. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders circling iowa one last time. the closing stretch is all about campaign mechanics. >> we are just calling to make sure we have your support.
>> let's start a storm of movement toward the future that we want to make together. >> it is the super bowl of politics. but the season isn't over. it's just beginning. the test of campaign organization set the tone for the rest of the 2016 race. sanders announced a sunday bombshell. he raised $20 million in january. average donation of $27. big crowds turned their support behind their candidate. >> never in a million years would i have thought this possible. >> soaring crowds for clinton too. even as the state department e-mail hangs over the campaign. >> this is much like benghazi. republicans will use it to beat up on my. i understand that. >> sanders holds a large lead of among under 45. clinton has the edge of those
over 45. she is leaning sanders. >> someone who caucused for her eight years ago is unsure if it is going to caucus for her now. >> yeah, i'm sure she would be disappointed. >> it is time to shatter the glass ceiling. >> i think it is history in the making, and i hope we're part of it. >> so the question is turnout. if it is more like a traditional caucus, 140,000 people are turning out that, benefits the clinton campaign. if it is much more than that, new people lining up to vote, that is a good night for bernie sanders. both sides watching the weather. they believe it will happen after the caucuses begin at 7:00 here in iowa. alisyn and chris. >> jeff, thanks so much. our panel, david greggry, maeve reston and matt lewis. let's talk about the women supporters, as jeff was just talking about.
older women lean towards her. younger women, not so much. there was a thing called clinton fatigue. even women in the past who supported her this time around are just feeling tired by this campaign. >> there are a lot of these women out there. i met a lot of them on the campaign trail. they have not shown up in the polls. i remember talk to go a woman in new hampshire late last year who said i want to say to her, left someone else run the world for a while. that fatigue, the feeling that she has been in too long, creature of establishment. who ever expected bernie sanders would be able to generate this kind of excitement and enthusiasm. and she took a long time to try to start cutting into that. with bill clinton in iowa this week. especially over and over again was using the same phrase, she's
a proven change maker. change agent. 45 different ways to say that phrase. >> a revolution. >> gender matters. energy is looking to matter more right now. if you look at the slow gans, bernie sanders, revolution. let me ask you this. we saw an eerily similar dynamic to what maeve is describing right now in 2008. >> yeah. >> what do you see as any distinguishing characteristics of what hillary was saying and doing then until now. >> she is making the argument that she can get things done. i'm electable. i can actually make change happen. she is not a revolutionary. people are not going to fall in love with her in a way certainly
they did with obama in 2008. and sanders, remember, what did that poll tell us? two-thirds of democrats in the state think that the political economic system is rigged against the little guy. they are looking to have a fundamental change. it gives you a sense of a populist movement. she is not going to top it like that. >> you talk about bernie. she has said there is nothing there. this is benghazi all over again. i'm used to the attacks. and then we hear the fbi is planting these stories, that something is ramping up. how are voters to figure out what's happening?
>> first, to go back to what you were talking about, 2008 was an open seat. a revolutionary mattered when you were changing from george w. bush. right now, if you're a revolutionary, what are you revolting against? barack obama? >> they didn't think obama went far enough. >> the e-mails is a big deal. they weren't classified at the time. of course they weren't you are the one who would have been classifying them, or your team would have been. i don't think it matters tonight. i don't think any democratic caucus is going to say they are worried about the e-mails. i think it's a huge story, i just don't think it is a big story tonight. >> getting straight back to the clinton fatigue, they bring this up independently. they talk about being tired of this constant series of
investigations. everything that she has said is the republicans targeting here, people want to move beyond. they don't want to talk about it anymore. >> it's the trust issue. trust and credibility. i don't think it hurts her among democrats except those who say is this a drag on her? can she not win? it becomes a general election issue. a lot of trats believe what she is saying. this is like benghazi. this is an argument by critics against me, republicans against me. by the way, sanders has not made the kind of deal about it that he could have. >> he's changing his taupe. >> we'll see if that's real. >> we are near how it would be used usually. >> he has gone to "it's a serious issue." >> it seems off base also. tricky situation. and as long as it's out there,
it's real for the voters. >> it is. coming up in the next hour, democratic front-runner hillary clinton will join us live. obviously we'll ask her all about this and much more. >> you know how we look to get ahead of ourselves. we are already talking about what happens after iowa. you have to. why iowa is most important is not about picking your eventual president. the history is not so great there. but it is about predicting new hampshire. in the granite state, all three democratic presidential candidates in a live presidential town hall wednesday night moderated by our man anderson cooper at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. people like the format. they felt they got the candidates talk to go voters in a way that exposed them a little bit better. so we're doing it again. here we are in iowa. this is the big day. the hype is going to be removed by history here. ted cruz, as we have been saying
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welcome back to "new day" live from the place to be in american presidential campaign. that is des moines, iowa. it all starts here. what is the state of play on the republican side. donald trump in recent polls has momentum. seems to be widening his lead against senator ted cruz. anything can happen. many believe this is cruz's state to win as a caucus. one person who believes it deeply, representative steve
king, republican from iowa. serves is as national co-chair man of the campaign. great to be on your home turf. >> it's great you could come to iowa, cruz. >> you're pushing hard. this was supposed to be his good, strong start. he's been taking knocks from donald trump. now from himself. let's put up the mailer. this was brought to attention not by a politician specifically but by the secretary of state. of course they're a politician as well. it seems to have legalistic language, voting violation. it seems to be scaring people if you don't come out and caucus, you're breaking the law. the secretary of state says it is deceptive to the point of being a violation almost. do you accept that analysis and what is going on with the mailer. >> if it was a violation, i think the secretary of state would have said so.
we know marco rubio has almost an identical document out there, a shaming document. we are still waiting for the secretary of state to issue a similar statement. >> you think they are anti-cruz? >> i don't know. if that was his professional opinion, he has an obligation to do the same thing when marco rubio has the same thing out. >> cruz said i apologize to no one. >> i don't like anything negative. i would rather it didn't happen. it goes on in campaigns all over this country. >> you're not on the ballot right now. let me go back. did you say you don't like anything negative. cantaloupe king.
>> fair point. the drug smugglers were bringing drugs into america. my critics picked that up and decided that they were going to say i used it to express about a whole world of people. >> let's apply that to the ongoing race. one of the legitimate knocks on senator cruz, he is saying he is a pure conservative. he's not like marco rubio because he helped architect the gang of eight. that's because he was involved in that process and you weren't. if we look at senator cruz, he did move, at least in language because he didn't have the rule rubio did whether there should be amnesty. he is saying one thing now. he is saying a different thing
now. his poison pill bill spoke to a different position. does he have the high ground in terms of having always been rock solid. >> chris, i think he does have the high ground. i recall when that was brought up. i remember the language and the things said at that time. and i remember calling saying he wanted immigration reform to pass. but i don't think he said i want this gang of eight bill to pass. and so i put poison pills out there. i made arguments. i made some that make me a little bit of a the is s thespian on that. he has been clear and concise. the language he used from 2013 on is in 11 pages at a cruz.org
website. i signed off on it and he signed it. >> one of the things people rejected right now, they are saying we don't want that game. we want it on the outside. it is motivation for trump. what do you say to fellow eye answer about donald trump versus ted cruz? what do you see the proposition as? >> there is a dramatic difference. if you look at donald trump's lifetime record, and you don't have to go back that far to look at it, he is pro-choice. in 1999 he was supported of gay marriage. he said his values in new york were different than they were in iowa. that has been consistently true. here's the one that troubles me the most. it is my opinion, not universal. i watched barack obama break this country down to race,
ethnicity. they are sending out tweets and challenging him. i don't want to see america being pitted against each other on groups to each other. >> the election is certainly going to be referring to who divided this country and who can divide it more. tomorrow, the morning after the iowa caucuses, that's a big day. it is all about the momentum into new hampshire. "new day" will be there for you. live in manchester, new hampshire. stop bywaterworks cafe in the granite state. donald trump is on top of the polls here in iowa.
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communications director for the republican national committee, sean spicer. shawn, great to have you here. >> good morning. >> remember when we first met a year ago and you came in to introduce yourself to the "new day" offices. it seemed like an eternity. and here we are. it's happening. >> it is like the super bowl. >> you are a student of this stuff. what is going to happen. >> today is about turnout. how many new time caucusgoers show up. how many low propensity caucusgoers come. this is not like a primary where you just go check a ballot. obviously from where i stand the big game is watching what hillary clinton does. you don't have to be in des moines or anyone in iowa a long time to feel the berne. bernie sanders has an amazing ground game. >> let's look at voter turnout
in years past. 2008, it was 20% of iowa voters. 2012 it was close to 20%. what do you expect tonight? >> that's the big x factor tonight. we have to figure out how many candidates have gotten new folks registered. and then caucus. there is a big deal. there is a lot of unknown. you saw on the democratic side where president obama was able to bring a lot of new people into the process and caucus for him. the question for both sides is of the aisle, how many folks did you bring that are new? how many are coming at you. the margin to improve turnout is pretty big. >> what do you think of ted cruz's tactic that he is using, sending out these saying voter
violation if they hadn't caucused before. is that overly tpwraesive? >> social science studies show that kind of methods get people to show up. >> it does. >> people use facebook and twitter to do that. the proof will be in the pudding whether it was a good thing or not. obviously there is a lot of action on all sides to get those people to the polls. >> i know that you can't say you have any horse in this game. i understand that. you're the rnc. you have to maintain neutrality. however, for the party, what would be better, if donald trump has decisive win-wins in iowa, new hampshire, and thereafter, or if this is a long, long primary process and different people have scattered wins? >> it's a great question. one, you get your nominee early. we played that in 2008 with john
mccain and it worked out for the tkrapls. got the intensity of their side and got it going. i think on our side, the more people that get part of this program the better. we have more enthusiasm, more excitement. i would like to see this thing go until early april which is when i think we will have is a nominee. >> will you see people dropping out after tonight? >> each campaign will make that decision. historically, iowa does whittle the field a little bit. new hampshire whittls the field a little bit. there's only 68. we have narrowed the calendar by 68 days so it doesn't take as much to stay in the race as before. each individual will have to decide whether they have the resources needed. >> what is donald trump doing? >> you'll have to ask donald
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welcome back to "new day" on this monday. the caucuses kick off 7:00 p.m. local time. recent polling shows donald trump is the top choice for republicans, followed by senators ted cruz, marco rubio. hillary clinton and bernie sanders appear to be neck and neck. there is snow in the weather forecast. however, it is not expected
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the iowa caucuses getting under way in just hours. so we have a look at who is winning the money race today. for the democrats, hillary clinton raising $37 million in the last quarter. is and bernie sanders with a strong showing, just $3.5 million behind her. as for the republicans, ben carson raised $22 million. his fund-raising dropped off
over concerns over his foreign policy knowledge. keel get into that in a moment. jeb bush showing signs of weakness. >> editor and chief of the daily beast, john. and republican consultant margaret. >> great to have you back from the baby. >> the gretkpwraeugreat grandda herbert hoover. >> the first president west of the mississippi. >> anything else. >> best humanitarian in human history. >> that rounds it out. >> it must be so exciting to be in iowa. >> i love being in iowa. i come a few times a year. >> let's talk about the money. as we just showed you, hillary clinton is winning.
but bernie sanders is nipping at her heels with $33.5 million. what do you see in these numbers? >> they are remarkable strong numbers, right? a lot of bernie's money came late in the game. it provides what you need for a sustained campaign. you follow the money. these folks have the dollars to make it a long race if voters say that's what they want. >> does the comparison sand that she gets money in a different way in terms of the amount of dough norse. >> he doesn't have mega dough norse are massive infrastructures going around raising money for them. they are all small low dollar donations all coming online. on the flip side, ben carson has the corollary. when he set up pweus book tour, set up a digital infrastructure that led to online fund-raising.
sit almost on autopilot, which is why his numbers are so high. >> there is a caveat. his numbers are the highest. but in that fourth quarter, he raised 19 million in october. and then there were questions about his foreign policy and paris attacks happened and he was only able to raise 2 million the next two months. >> they were doing a high focus on the old-fashioned mailers that consultant get rich off of. you have spend money to make money is the mantra you hear that. >> something else you see, money as momentum. >> 100% relevant. there is talk is there a marco
surge is or is there not. >> is there a marco surge? we will see tomorrow. anecdotally i sense there is enthusiasm. i think there is an urgency iowans understand there needs to be a whittling of the field. >> the democrats have a big advantage that needs to be discussed and explained a little bit. i have never heard in my many years in this business of people talking about how much energy there is in the ground game. it is stand to go reason we will see a surge because of all the energy in different blaze. however, the democrats have a very different game. there 15% rule matters. on the democrat side, if you don't have 15% of caucusers in that room, they get released. >> they realign. >> they can. governor o'malley had this line,
stand strong. sounds great. but not a practical solution. if you say, there's only two of you guys. you go for alisyn or cuomo. the obvious choice is camerota in that case. >> that race is incredibly tight. punch a commentator when they say it comes down to turnout. how it gets reallocated is to be determined tonight. it is true on both sides. but if bernie sanders can pick up iowa tonight and continue in the home state of new hampshire, that is a major blow to the hillary campaign. if hillary can win a couple thousand votes, 150,000 people showing up per party.
it could have repercussions. >> guys, great. thanks so much. so much fun to have you here with us and to have you back, margaret. >> thanks. >> hoover extra strength in iowa. we have much more coverage of the caucuses here. we have a full team. so let's get right to it. >> let's start a storm of movement toward the future. >> you're going to have a winner this time. >> i believe i'm going to win the nomination. >> hillary clinton is disqualified from being president. this thing with her e-mails is a big deal. >> republicans will continue to beat up on me. >> the donald trumps and others who want to divide us up. >> the politicians are the worst liars. they will say anything.
>> welcome to our viewers around the world. we are at the mars cafe in des moines, iowa. at long last, it is caucus day. votes set to be cast after one of the most bizarre lead-ups to an election we have ever seen. >> 99 counties. 600 plus precincts. lots to cover. races tight on both sides of the aisle. gop side, you have trump and cruz, very close for one another. both depending on turnout tonight. you have hillary clinton and bernie sanders. statistically tied. an eery situation compared to
2008. again, she is going with experience versus emotion. we will speak to the democratic front-runner later this hour. but we have full team coverage. let's begin with sunlen. what is the state of play? >> the polls showing them so close. buff also important is the battle for the third position. marco rubio, if he is able to make a strong showing and close the gap between them, that could do a lot to alter the dynamics of this race going forward. >> you haven't had a winner in iowa in 16 years. we're going winner, you better believe it. >> republicans in iowa are waking up to the final pitches from 12 gop hopefuls. >> i want to ask everyone here to vote for me 10 times.
>> next cycle i think lady gaga is running. >> the front-runner is feeling the heat. >> he wants to pretent he is robin hood. >> continue to go suggest cruz has it in with big banks. >> he forgot to mention he borrowed a lot of money from goldman sachs and citibank. >> and may not even be eligible for the presidency. >> it's possible you can't even run, according to a lot of people. >> cruz rolling out celebrities to strike back. >> all you ladies, that would be a duck call. >> from phil robertson from "duck dynasty". >> let's try one more time to get trump. let's called donald duck to come debate.
>> to glenn beck voting iowans not to vote for trump. >> for my children's sake, please, dear god, if you're thinking about it, go to the bar tomorrow instead. >> with so many polling at single digits, there is a large percentage of iowa voters who could turn the tide for one of the front-runners. >> we cannot win if we are divided. >> so candidate is giving up hope. >> i believe i'm going to win the nomination. >> all right. we're hearing the same type of talk from the democrat side. there it is really a two-person race. no matter what poll you look at it, it is statistically a tie in iowa. let's get in with jeff zeleny in on the race. >> it is statistically a tie. the campaigns know exactly who supporters are. every one of them is getting a phone call, text message, e-mail, urging them to come out to the caucuses at 7:00. voters finally will decide if the establishment will get its say or if it will be bernie
sanders's plea to shake things up in iowa. >> a furious fight to the finish. >> i will fight for you in the white house. >> it sounds like you want to make a political revolution. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders circling iowa one last time. the closing stretch is all about campaign mechanics. >> we are just calling to make sure we have your support. >> let's start a storm of movement toward the future that we want to make together. >> it's the super bowl of politics. but the season isn't over. it's just beginning. the test of campaign organization will set the tone for the rest of the 2016 race. sanders announced a sunday bombshell. he raised $20 million in january. an average donation of $27. big crowds turned their support behind their candidate. >> never in a million years would i have thought this possible. >> soaring crowds for clinton too. everyone as the state department e-mail investigation hangs over
the campaign. >> this is very much like benghazi. republicans are going to continue to use it, beat up on me. i understand that. >> sanders holds a large lead among women under 45. clinton with the same edge in women over 45. amy supported hillary clinton eight years ago. now she is leading sanders. >> someone who caucused for her eight years ago is unsure if it is going to caucus for her now. >> yeah, i'm sure she would be disappointed. i mean, i would be. >> it is time to shatter the glass ceiling. >> i think it is history in the making, and i hope we're part of it. >> and joining us now to talk about all of this, cathy obradovic with the des moines register, ron brownstein, editorial director for the national journal, and mark preston, executive editor for cnn politics.
great to have you with us at the mars cafe. >> put a smile on your face. it's caucus day. >> yeah, yeah. >> cathy, you are the iowan. the des moines register poll just came out and set the gold standard. it shows donald trump winning over ted cruz. 28% to 23%. what are you seeing and hearing in iowa? >> so this poll is closer than it looks actually. it looks close. it's really closer than it looks. ted cruz has locked up the people who are most likely to go to the caucuses. historically, at least. evangelical voters. very conservative voters. donald trump has more people, more moderates, more independents coming out for him. he needs a big turnout. and, you know, ann selzer is not
seeing signs of a record turnout tonight. >> you are hearing something different from the field. all the campaigns are saying we believe we will bring more people out this year. sin was referring to the gold standard, the register since 1988 has nailed it every time since 2008 when it was romney and ended up being santorum. do you think there may be confusion of outcome? >> the poll captured a little bit more than was there. correct. >> can you imagine how unorthodox campaign this is. i was out with donald trump. he told me they only uses two pieces of direct mail, a christmas card and letter. a letter that they could put on
their fridge. on the other side, i saw one of ted cruz's top guys. he told me that basically on friday and saturday they had 55,000 telephone calls from call centers into iowans. they knocked on 1,800 alone. if you want to talk about two unorthodox names, there you go. >> trump with the christmas card. cruz went with a subpoena. >> he is scaring people to the polls. >> cruz is running with the exception of that mailer, he is running the khrafrbg iowa go to every county, organize every block kind of campaign, relying heavily on evangelical churches. trump is an unconventional candidate, not only in the way he is organizing but appealing. he is transcending some of the usual fracture we have seen. in the end trump kind of runs across these boundaries. he may prevent cruz from getting
an advantage among evangelical christians we saw huckabee do in '08. i think he will still be very competitive. >> one of the interesting things is people can switch their party affiliation at the caucus site. they can do it out of a change of heart. in fact, the iowa gop chairman, jeff kauffman said the secretary of state confirmed 3,000 democrats who are unaffiliated have registered as republicans. so that is a whole new factor. >> and some are going the other way as well is. that has been part of the caulks.
it doesn't matter what they are last week. >> the candidate can go into the caucus rooms and make their own case. >> yes. >> you will not see them sitting in the hotel room watching returns. >> marco rubio is talking about it. ted cruz will do the same thing. certainly west of des moines here. >> and trump will be in cedar rapids. this is really, really important. there is a lot of people who are still undecided going into these caucuses. >> almost 50%. >> it can change their mind. that is really key. >> from my perspective, both bernie sanders and donald trump are playing with house money in iowa. given their strength in thafpl nasp, all the polls in new hampshire, this is icing on the cake. he has a very substantial lead. and trump's advantage is not nearly the strongest position as
sanders but he has a divided field. does anything happen in iowa that provides any clarity to this jeb bush, marco rubio, chris christie pile up in new hampshire. >> let's talk about the democratic side and look at the polls. one quick note. the "new york times" endorses hillary clinton. still buried in the field. i can't find it. that's usual. his politics are more mainstream for the editorial page. or should i say more liberal. >> we just put up the democratic poll. hillary clinton is winning at the moment. she has 45%. the margin is razor thin. sit is hard to know what this
means. >> some people are saying the most important number is the three at the bottom. why? >> because the democratic process, if you don't reach the threshold for viability, you can recombine. i think it is overrated in terms of how big an influence it is going to have. >> i agree. >> why? >> the o'malley people are split. >> is that what they think? >> what we are seeing on the republican side, the patterns we have seen in the past are reassembling. sanders again, much like trump, is cutting the electorate along a different line. the generation line is the key distinction in this race. >> it is. >> in iowa, polling, south carolina, we see he is much stronger among younger whites than older whites. whatever happens, we will see in nevada and south carolina. he can break into the minority communities in order to make this a real race. >> we see a poll 45-42.
margin error of four. but we would see a front-runner in any other state. we're in iowa right now. you have to do this bizarre system that nobody else really understands. you have to publicly declare who you will support. >> it makes changing your mind more likely than less likely. it forces people to change their minds sometimes. >> the democratic process, they're never right. >>. >> we've got senator rand paul coming up in the next hour. let's see how he spins it. >> after iowa, the race moves to new hampshire. cnn will have a very special event in the granite state. all three democratic candidates,
hillary clinton, bernie sanders and martin o'malley, will take part in a town hall wednesday night moderated by anderson cooper live here on cnn. >> all right. hillary clinton benghazi, e-mail, fbi investigation. what does he think of these issues? we'll ask the secretary herself. hillary clinton joins us live on "new day" ahead. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained. and in albany, the nanotechnology capital of the world. let us help grow your company's tomorrow, today
>> i'm sitting here talking with senator harkin. he is for hillary clinton. you want the big names around you as the hours are upon us for the caucus as it starts tonight. this is going to be a big deal, especially on the democratic side. this is one of the tightest races we have seen with the democrats in iowa. hillary clinton and bernie sanders. no matter what poll you look at and see a spread, they are almost all in the margin of error. that means statistically it is a
tie. let's talk to hillary clinton supporter tom harkin. he joins former president bill clinton in iowa to do a couple of stops yesterday. good to see you. what do you say to your fellow iowans? they seem more excited about bernie sanders. why do you believe hillary clinton is the better candidate. >> first of all, we had great crowds out. i was with president clinton at a couple of stops. we had 2,600 people at lincoln high school here in des moines. so i think the enthusiasm is big for hillary too. it is going to be a close race. i'm not kidding anyone. this is going to be close. but i will say this, chris. we have 1,681 precincts in iowa. we have preseupgt captains at every precinct. even obama never did anything like that in 2008. we are precinct ready, as they
say. >> they have some ground game. some machine, the clintons. some say that is the problem. they are a machine. they don't hope to capture things the way obama did in 2008, the way sanders is today. do you want a machine or someone who feels it and sees it on a deeper level? >> one of the good things about starting in iowa is it tests your organization swral ability. can you organize things? can you put things together? and hillary has built -- not a machine, an organization that functions well. >> why is it a virtue to do that and not to be seen as you're an insider who knows how to work the system? >> because a president has to organize the government. a president has to bring people together. enthuse them but get them together.
she works well with others, as i say. she can work with people to bring people together to actually make things better in the future. >> what was your ability to work with senator sanders. >> i worked with hillary too. she was on our committee. >> but you already signed on with hillary. that's i am asking about sanders. >> bernie is a good friend of mine. comparing the two in terms of their organizational ability, i think hillary is best by far. >> this expectation that someone can go into washington and change the game, i'm going to get my stuff done whether they like it or not, is that doable? >> no. that is not cynicism? it is reality. >> you have a house to deal with, a senate to deal with, the supreme court, the other branch of deposit. you have the states out there. no.
change comes about not overnight but in years. how do you get it moving in the right direction? i was a a navy pilot. like an aircraft carrier. you are going one way and you want it to turn, actually it will turn and you can get it going in the right direction. >> the knock on clinton is judgment. benghazi, e-mails. not so much legalities but the practicality. do you believe that is a fair criticism? >> i do not. i believe her judgment has been impeccable. i have known her since 1991. she has great judgment. for 20 years the right wing has been assaulting her with lies.
>> is she giving them reason to is the question? >> yeah. the reason she is is because she is set to run for president and they are afraid of her running for president. >> but they didn't make up the families being told one thing. >> look, she spent 11 hours in front of a committee, hostile committee. i'll tell you what, she came out with her head high and intact after 11 hours of drilling. >> to her detractors it makes her a pro, not believable. >> well, did she hide behind the fifth amendment or anything like that? no. she answered every single question. on the e-mail she said make them all available. put them all out there. she is not controlling that. she said put it out there.
>> your daughter's name has come up, her trying to get a job in the state department. do you believe there was anything done that was wrong? how does that speak in terms of how the process works. >> i haven't read all the e-mails. my daughter was first in her class in high school, graduate of georgetown law school. she wanted to work in the department war crimes. that's how she got that job. i don't know how else i can answer that. >> you don't think it hangs over her head? >> what issues? >> if there's an indictment from the department of justice, what would that mean. >> if, if. what if ted cruz is indicted?
you can raise what-ifs. she has done nothing wrong. she is a person of the highest integrity. i swear to that. >> what do we have on either side? they are not under investigation by the fbi. but on the other side, tom harkin in iowa says someone has high integrity, it's going to matt matter. >> she is not under investigation. >> thank you very much, senator. former iowa senator tom harkin. big player in iowa to this day. in just a few minutes, alisyn will be speaking to the democratic candidate, hillary clinton, the front-runner. it is statistically tied. but it isn't over all. hillary has big numbers. we will be live on the most important place in the race, manchest manchester, new hampshire. come see us at waterworks cafe
as we move to the granite state and coffee is on alisyn. what will make it different? turnout. you have to come out and caucus. the races are counting on it from top to bottom. who do they believe will show up? do we see evidence of a surge for these populist candidates like trump and sanders? what is being done to juice the numbers. we have all of it ahead.
of helping three inmates escape from a jail is expected in court county. ravaghi showed google maps views of the roof. one turned himself in. the other two were arrested saturday in san francisco after someone recognized their stolen vehicle. zika virus spread to two dozen can companies. the world health organization will convene an emergency meeting today in geneva. the virus prompted travel warnings for pregnant women. scientists and government leaders will decide whether it merits a global public health emergency. we'll stay on that story and keep you updated. let's head to iowa to allison and chris. okay, michaela, thanks so much. after seven months of one of the most unpredictable campaigns in history, voters will have their say in iowa tonight for the
first time this election season. and the races on both sides of the aisle could not be tighter. here with us in iowa, david greggry. david, it's great to have you. >> thank you. >> here can with us this morning. >> it is an exciting day. >> it sure is. where do you want to start, democrat or republican. your choice? >> let's start democrat. it is feeling like deja vu all over again in terms of suddenly this candidate that nobody saw coming has seemingly more momentum. >> he has a lot of momentum. who has the juice, a sense of movement around him. iowa is about the blocking and tackling. it really does matter. people i talk to says three points is more durable for clinton. here is one reason why that may be the case. you have all these young people coming to see you in the college towns. he doesn't want them to caucus
all in the college town. sit not one person, one vote. sit complicated. it is the number of delegates. what he would like is for the young people to go back home and caucus elsewhere. in 2008, they were able to do that because the caucuses were earlier. they were in january. you have a snowstorm come, monday night, you're going to go home. >> there is a prediction sanders will be overweighted. he will get a ton of votes but no more delegatedelegates. >> yeah. this will be very tight. if you can pull off something big it will be a political earthquake, just like it was in 2008. >> okay. so sit a story of turnouts. the thing about donald trump, he just defies all the lanes. he's like the guy on the highway swerving all over the place because he needs the less conservative, more moderate voters.
let's use the title of your book. how is your faith?". you're feeling left out in the culture. you're feeling like what you care and believe in is so longer valued. whether it's same-sex marriage or views about abortion. the point is, i get you. that i will fight for you. even though his positions don't actually back that up. this is a general feeling, hey, you're left out. i'll be your guy. i'll bring you back in. that seems to be trumping, if you will, the litmus test issues. that's what cruz has been doing. effectively but maybe too late. which is going after trump and saying, guys, not a conservative. much more liberal. that's not who you want. >> gregory is asking whether or not cruz made a mistake and other gop made a mistake not
going after trump earlier. that's easy to say. very dicey to do. this man is a very active enemy. what would happen if cruz went after him earlier? maybe he would have been slapped around with the loans from goldman sachs. >> it's going to happen anyway. if you're ted cruz, you're a good debater, you're good on your feet. he made a calculation that trump will implode and i will be there to pick up the pieces. he made the wrong call. but they're all doing that. he doesn't have the power as some of the other candidates saying this is ridiculous. is he a conservative? what about the people he left behind in seizing property. >> it is not a question on of being in detail mode. is he authentic? it is about temperament, leadership, who you are really. look what jeb has done. he spent $30 million attacking marco rubio. imagine if that had been on
donald trump. >> if trump wins today, do you see a more concerted effort, they are recalibrating and ban his opponents and go after him in a more significant way. >> one thing about trump is that there, that long list. as long as you have carson, bush, paul, kasich, casey. >> what's the proof there would be any coalescing at all in terms of that number that you are referring to? >> you have to assume that the "establishment" has its day. think about this. this race in 2015, we thought it would be hillary versus jeb. trump gets in and completely upends the thing. marco rubio, a tea party fair, is the great establishment hope. if he gets a strong third today. >> what does that mean? >> if he is not a distant third.
third place for him, he has to have a decent number. it catapults him into new hampshire. he would have to finish there. he has to win somewhere. he only wins if some of the other guys get out of the race. ego being what it is, maybe it's not so easy. >> you city think there's only three tickets out of iowa or this year is different? >> no. that is probably right. it is simply a money thing. if you don't have a pulse coming out of iowa and you get to new hampshire, you're going to run out of of money. once you get out of the two states, it is a regional thing. you have to have money, go on tv. >> theoretically, metaphorically it is like three. but it is six. >> where can he win with?
south carolina. it may be too late. >> great to have you this morning. all the political drama hitting a high point today. democratic rivals hillary clinton and bernie sanders in a virtual tie. mrs. clinton is ahead. what will tip the scales? secretary clinton makes her case next on "new day". that's live. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪ the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪
i hope you will fight for me. and i promise you this, i will stand up and fight for you every single day of this campaign. and then when we win i will fight for you in the white house. thank you and god bless you. >> a powerful close to hillary clinton's last campaign event of the night sunday. former secretary of state spent most of the day making sure way through iowa in a last ditch effort to rally caucusgoers ahead of tonight's vote. hillary clinton joins us now. secretary clinton, good morning. >> good morning, alisyn. >> okay. how are you feeling and how do you plan to spend the next 12 hours?
>> i am feeling great. i am so proud of the campaign we have run here in iowa. i've got the most dedicated campaign team, the organizers who have been on the ground, the thousands volunteers. we knocked on 125,000 doors this weekend. there is just a lot of excitement and energy. i'm urging everybody to come out and caucus tonight to be part of this unique american process. i hope they will come out and caucus for me. >> so, secretary, let's talk about the issue that has bedevilled your campaign. that is of course the ongoing investigation into your e-mails. on friday, the state department withheld 22 e-mails. they didn't release them. because of material deemed top secret. i know you have been asked this six ways to sunday along the campaign trail and i know you always said there is nothing there, but your opponents said
this is big. this is a big deal. how do you convince voters today not to be concerned about this? >> well, allison, there is nothing new. and i think the facts are quite helpful here. it's a little bit like what the republicans and others have tried to do with respect to benghazi. amount of innuendo, a lot of attacks. i just know that after i testified for 11 hours, answered every question, nothing new came up. most voteers have made up their minds. and i'm grateful for that. the same here. and i think most of the voters who have followed this know exactly what's going on here. i never made any different explanation than the one i have made over and over again. i take classified information seriously. i did not send or receive any material marked "classified." and i want all of these
released. this is a dispute about retroactive classification, quite a mouthful. so what people talk to me about is how i'm going to get incomes up, how i make sure how the affordable care act works, get costs down, relieve student debt. that's what's on voters's minds. that seems to be what is exciting is and energizing people as they move toward the caulks tonight. >> secretary clinton, something does seem to be happening with this investigation, or at least the fbi seems to be talking about it more. because in the past week several media outlets said their sources in the fbi say, something is going to happen. what does that mean to you? >> it means people are selectively leaking and making comments that have no basis in anything i'm aware of. and, you know, i regret that
seems to be part of the atmosphere. because we need to let this inquiry run its course, get it resolved. but i can tell you, alisyn, that is not on the minds of the literally thousands of people i have seen in the last few weeks. is and i'm glad it isn't. because the facts are the facts. no matter how much selective leaking or anonymous sourcing and all that goes on, people want to know what i can do to be the best possible president for them and their families. and i've been thrilled at the kind of reaction and response i've been getting, the crowds that we had. that last event last night was just overwhelming. i'm looking forward to people expressing their opinion about who can be the democratic in chief for the democratic party and getting on to win the nomination and being successful next november. >> yesterday the "new york times" endorsed you. they wrote that you are the right choice in terms of experience and vision.
i'm sure that was music to your ears. do you think the "new york times" endorsement plays in iowa? >> well, i don't know. but i know the des moines register does. they endorse me. the boston globes matters. the republicans and their allies are determined to do everything they can to bring me down. they don't know me very well. because i don't quit when i'm fighting for what i believe in. and i believe i can be the president who makes progress with people. so i'm going to stick with it. so when very respectable and responsible outlets like the times, "the boston globe" and others, interview us, ask us really hard questions and conclude that i'm their choice for president, i find that incredibly validating. and i do hope voters pay
attention to it. sit a tough vetting process they go through. >> secretary clinton, that's talk about the republicans and what's going on in terms of how the electorate feels. i know you know this campaign has been how angry and anxious people are feeling out there and of course all the vision in this country. some people say we have never seen anything like it. you made a point of talking about how you don't really like how republicans do become in many ways. so how would you bring the country togethe, including republicans? >> well, the same way i always have. when i'm not actually running for office, i work closely with everybody, including republicans, to find common ground. that's what i did when i created the children's health insurance. it's what i did when i worked with republicans to get health care for national guard members
when they were being deployed. i worked on respond to go 9/11. i found common ground on a number of issues with respect to health care and the like. as secretary of state, the same thing. so, alisyn, i think that you've got to work at it every single day. there is no shortcut. you have to build the relationships. and you have to be willing to try to meet people where they are and move them over. that's the way politics works in america. that's the way our system is set up to work. we can get frustrated by it. we can wish it were smoother. the affordable care act, dodd-frank, getting our economy out of the ditch. the republicans put the sanctions on iran, the effort i led. and so much more. so i know how you get things done. i am a progressive who wants to make progress and actually produce real results in people's
lives. that's what i'm offering. i'm not overpromising. i'm laying out the plans i have. i'm asking people to look at them and i'm asking people to hold me accountable. i want to get pack to working together to try to unite this country to make it possible for us to set big goals and achieve them. that's what i intend to do. >> let's talk about how this differs than 2008. once again you find yourself in iowa with an opponent who some think came out of nowhere but garnered a lot of i always thought we have a close contest. i think that is good. it's good for the democratic party. i'm thrilled at my campaign and we learned a lot of lessons. we have applied the lessons. we have a great team working literally around the clock. i think i'm a better candidate. i think my experience as secretary of state gave me a depth and understanding about what the next president will face that nobody else running on
either side could have and i think what voters are looking for is a way out of their frustration. people are angry and disappointed. people are worried. what happened in the great recession was a body blow. 9 million people lost their jobs and 5 million houses were lost and $13 trillion and family wealth was wiped out. people haven't gotten a raise. they have been working but don't feel like they are getting ahead. the american people deserve to be worried. what i'm offering is a way forward. once you get through the anger and the political attacks and all the rest of it people have to ask who can do the most for me and my family? who can get the economy going and make sure the affordable care act works and get prescription drug costs down? i know how to do this and i'm ready. i'm experienced and i think i have the best shot at becoming
the nominee and the next president. >> we will be watching with great interest what unfolds over the next 12 hours. thanks for taking the time. >> thank you. hope you feel better. take care. >> thank you. thank you. that's so nice. i'm drinking tea and honey right now. joining us to talk about all of this is former meet the press moderator david gregory and chris. so what did you hear secretary clinton say? >> she is on her talking points. i thought that interview is revealing about the kind of candidate she is. this is not a political revolution that she is leading. she is very practical saying i'm in this for the long game. like me, don't like me, trust me, don't trust me. can you imagine me in the oval office? a lot of people say yes. it is not just democrats. i have talked to people in the military, corporate america.
they think back to the clinton years and think it is not so bad. they know she is hawkish and practical. she specifically saying i don't have a simon and garfunkel ad. do you want to get something done. she is doing the long game. now she is ready to go long. >> the plus/minus is, the plus is i know how to organize. bernie sanders is getting a lot of enthusiasm but they are the left wing tea party, these people coming after me on his side. this is what i saw in 2008 with barack obama. i think there are big distinctions between bernie sanders and barack obama as candidates, not the least of which you would never have heard senator obama say i'm angry. he was about being a remedy, not a replica of george bush. he wasn't talking revolution in terms of let's go in there and
harnessing that mood of the country. on minus side the e-mail stuff is real, not because she is about to go to jail. it is true that she hasn't been named a target of the investigation. but that is because the d.o.j. does that. it is still with the fbi. for voters on the democrat side they don't see the e-mail issue the way the gop does. it may not matter now but the idea that it doesn't matter going forward is putting it too strongly. >> in the "new york times" in the endorsement, the e-mail questions are legitimate. >> it goes to what people don't trust or believe about hillary clinton. that is a big hiesh. she knows it. i don't think it hurts her with democrats but in the general election it hurts more. >> great to have you on with us. the big story on the republican side, of course, is donald trump versus ted cruz. could a dark horse spoil that
clinton. >> join the political revolution. >> i will unite the conservative movement. >> liberty is under assault like never before. >> ted cruz is a total liar. >> as people learn more about a record they will realize it is calculated. >> shame on donald trump. >> e-mail situation is a very serious issue. >> a little bit but i'm still standing. >> this is a new day. >> one big factor at play. the sun comes up in beautiful des moines. we welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. it is your new day everywhere. it is caucus day here in iowa. we are at the mars cafe in des
moines, iowa. this is the big day. 7:00 p.m. central caucuses begin. a big factor is weather and it looks like it is going to hold for the caucuses. that means turnout on the ground. every campaign is saying we believe the enthusiasm will translate into more caucusers. 99 counties. 600 precincts coming to life tonight. >> if the polls are right every vote will matter. on the republican side donald trump widening his lead over ted cruz while hillary clinton tries to fend off bernie sanders and reverse the momentum loss that she suffered here eight years ago. we have the iowa caucuses covered the way only cnn can. let's start with the democrats and bring in senior correspondent. the question is she run ag better campaign? by all accounts she is. bernie sanders believes he can
shake up the dynamic of this caucus campaign and inspire hundreds and hundreds and thousands of new young supporters. if they come out tonight it can change the course of this democratic race. a furious fight to the finish. >> i will fight for you in the white house. >> it sounds like you want to make a political revolution. >> reporter: hillary clinton and bernie sanders circling iowa one last time thm. the closing stretch is all about campaign mechanics. >> let's start a storm of movement towards the future that we want to make together. >> reporter: the super bowl of politics, but the season isn't over, it is just beginning. the test of campaign organization will set the tone for the rest of the 2016 race. sanders announced he raised $20 million in january, an average donation of $27. big crowds throwing their
support behind their candidate. >> never in a million years would i have thought this possible. >> reporter: soaring crowds for clinton, too. even as the state department e-mail investigation hangs over the campaign. >> this is very much like benghazi. republicans will continue to use it, beat up on me. >> reporter: the race could be decided by one key demographic, women voters. sanders holds a large lead over women under 45. clinton has the same edge on women over 45. do you think she will be disappointed to hear that? someone caucused for her eight years ago is unsure if they will caucus for her this time in. >> she would probably be disappointed. >> reporter: but she says it is past time to shatter that class ceiling. >> i think it is history in the making and i hope we are part of it. >> on the republican side, donald trump and ted cruz hoping to get their supporters out in
force and come away with a win. could a surprise be waiting in the wings? cnn has more on that. >> good morning. this is really a race for first between donald trump and ted cruz. the polls have them so close. equally important is the battle for the third spot. if marco rubio is able to close the gap and have a strong showing tonight that could change the dynamics of this race going forward. >> you haven't had a winner in iowa in 16 years. we are going to have a winner, you better believe it. >> reporter: republicans in iowa are waking up to the final pitches from 12 gop hopefuls. >> i want to ask everyone here to vote for me ten times. >> reporter: the presidential candidates in red spreading across the hawkeye state arming themselves with pointed criticism and humor. >> next cycle i think lady gaga is running. >> reporter: donald trump is
only five points ahead of ted cruz in the most recent des moines register poll. >> he wants to pretend he is robin hood. >> he forgot to mention he borrowed a lot of money at almost no interest from goldman sachs and citi bank. >> reporter: and may not be eligible for the presidency. >> if you become the candidate it is possible you can't run according to a lot of people. >> reporter: cruz rolling out conservative celebrities to strike back. >> from duck dynasty star -- >> let's call one more time to get trump. let's call donald duck to debate. >> reporter: to radio host glen beck begging not to vote for trump. >> for my children's sake if you are thinking about it go to the bar tomorrow instead. >> reporter: with so many other candidates polling in the single digits there is still a large
percentage of iowa voters who if swayed could turn the tide for one of the front runners. >> we cannot win if we are divided. >> reporter: no candidate is giving up hope. >> i believe i'm going to win the nomination. >> joining us now is republican senator and presidential candidate rand paul. it's good to have you with us. what are you hearing from your ground forces in terms of what they think about participation tonight? >> we have a great deal of enthusiasm. we were at the university of iowa last night. we had 1,500 students show up. they are ready to caucus today. the young people that are in our headquarters that made a million phone calls. and i don't know if they reach them all. >> still an extraordinary amount of number of calls. we have about 1,100 precinct chairs, people who speak for me at the caucus. we think we will surprise a lot of people. we think our main portion is
younger voters. if you look at the polls many times there is nobody under 30. often very few people under 40. pollsteres having trouble getting anybody to answer much less young people. >> one interesting thing about iowa is that candidates are allowed to go to the caucus sites and conjol people. >> i will be in lynn county tonight and i will give a seven minute speech maybe twice. there will be about 4,000 people, the biggest grouping of people in iowa in one place. some precincts are 100 people. some are 50. some are 10. my wife will speak in des moines. all my brothers and sisters. >> you have 13 family members out there? >> i think the youngest one that will speak is 16. >> so obviously they are not caucusers but you get to have your surrogates go in. a big difference between democrat and gop running of this. it is interesting that the
parties run this and not state government. you will get proportionate vote counts on the gop side. the democrats just deal with delegates. that is why you are trying to concentrate where you go. what is proposition of the voters from your perspective? there is trump and cruz as their options where do you fit in? why do they need you on that slate? >> i think my message is a distinct one in the republican party saying making the sand glow in the middle east may create more than you kill. foreign policy needs to be more reasoned and balanced. you have people on the stage like christie saying he is eager to shoot down russian planes. we went 70 years in the cold war republican and democrat trying to avoid an altercation with a superpower. i think the main thing you need if you want to try to find a solution is a cease fire. russia can be part of fighting the cease fire. they have been in syria for 50
years and have a base. we can wish and wish and wish and say we wish they weren't there. they are there. they can be part of the solution. they were part of removing the chemical weapons. i think they can be part of ultimately assad going into asyl asylum. if you had a cease fire there i think completely surrounded and has no place to go and in short order it can be finished off. >> if you don't come in in the top three in iowa tonight then what? >> we'll see. we want to wait and count the votes. we are tired of everything being predetermined by polling. everything has been circled around polling more than any other season i have seen inputal politics because there are so many people. the polls for been notoriously wrong. we will wait and see what the vote looks like. we think we will surprise a lot of people. >> every year presents a new set of variables. instead except for 2012 the
registers nailed it since 2008. of course you should be optimistic. the caucus hasn't started yet. you do have -- the life line is shorter than three months ago. you will have to make hard decisions after what point? this, new hampshire, south carolina, can you go further than that if you not in the top five? >> we are on the ballot in all 50 states. that is no small achievement. we did a lot of work to get on the ballot. many candidates haven't done that. >> the party will come to you sp say are you here for us or just for you. >> the party hasn't been here just for me either. we will see. we won't make decisions until we count the votes. i grew up as an athlete. i swam in college. you go into the race trying to win. we go into the race planning on winning and we will see what happens. the kids that are working for us worked so hard they deserve to
have an open slate until the election occurs. >> some pundits said some of donald trump's rivals regret not going after him more forcefully earlier and it is a run away trump train. >> i started from the very first question in the first first debate going after him. >> do you think that people have treated him -- >> some maybe and some maybe have a strategy. i have always felt like there is nothing about donald trump that is consistent with limited government philosophy. i think what his pitch to voters is he has been a successful business man which is debatable sometimes. he is a successful rich guy. give him power and he will fix things. many of us from the limited government tradition believe power is a corrupting influence and we want to limit power, republican or democrat. we think the presidency has grown in power for 100 years, not just president obama but
from woodrow wilson on, power and congress has become weaker and weaker. we thinks checks and balances have gotten out of balance. we don't see somebody like donald trump fixing that but being an unknown factor and might make government bigger. >> do you think trump is the worst choice on the gop slate? >> yeah. there is a narcissism about him that believes he can fix things and he just needs power. i have no idea if that is consistent with balancing budgets, making government smaller. i think it is more about power with him and that worries me because i don't know exactly what his philosophy is other than him first is his philosophy. >> senator rand paul we are watching. thanks for stopping by. after iowa the race moves to new hampshire. cnn has a very special event in the granite state. all presidential candidates will take part in a live presidential town hall on wednesday night moderated by anderson cooper
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hillary clinton says she is feeling great on this iowa caucus day but she hasn't been able to fully shake the e-mail controversy. here is what the democratic candidate had to say. >> there is nothing new. i think the facts are quite helpful here. it's a little bit like what the republicans and othervis have tried to do with respect to benghazi. a lot of innuendo, a lot of
attacks. i know nothing new came up and most voters made up their minds and i'm grateful for that. i think most of the voters who have followed this know exactly what's going on here. i never made any different explanation than the one i made over and over again. i take classified information seriously. i did not send or receive any material marked classified and i want all of these released and this is a dispute about retroactive classification. what people talk to me about is how i'm going to get incomes up, how to make sure the affordable care act works and get prescription drug costs down and make college affordable and relieve student debt. that is what is on voters' minds. that seems to be what is exciting and energizing people as they move towards the caucus
tonight. >> something does seem to be happening with this investigation or at least the fbi seems to be talking about it more because in the past week several media outlets have said that their sources in the fbi say, quote, something is going to happen. what does that mean to you? >> it means that people are selectively leaking and making comments that have no basis in anything i'm aware of. and i regret that that seems to be part of the atmosphere because we need to let this inquiry run its course, get it resolved. i can tell you that is not on the minds of the literally thousands of people that i have seen the last few weeks. and i'm glad it isn't because the facts are the facts. >> yesterday the "new york times" endorsed you. they wrote that you are the right choice in terms of experience and vision. i'm sure that was music to your ears. do you think the "new york
times" endorsement plays in iowa? >> well, i don't know, but i know the des moines register does and they endorsed me. i know the "boston globe" matters and a lot of newspapers in new hampshire endorsed me. this is gratifying because there is a lot of static that goes on and the republicans and allies are determined to do everything they can to try to bring me down. they don't know me very well because i don't quit when i'm fight frg what i believe in. i believe i can be the president who makes progress for people. i am just going to stick with it. >> all right. joining us now, david gregory, former moderator of meet the press and former white house correspondent as well as our cnn political commentators. great to have all of you here. they are treating us so well. let me start with you.
is it true that democrats will overlook whatever is going on with the e-mails and republicans it drives them crazy and they want to dig in and that is where they want to be? >> i thought it was no coincidence that she brought up the benghazi hearing. that might have been the best day she has had in this campaign for the last ten months. she is trying to remind democrats of that. i think democrats should be worried. there is a big question mark hanging over her head. we don't know where this is going to lead. this is an investigation. this is not chopped liver. pay attention. i think republicans should be talking about it less because it does make her look like a victim and it does work in her favor. such a contrast with bernie sanders. she is so scripted, so guarded that i think -- >> her problem is not benghazi.
people are asking her if she is going to go to jail. this is always in the context of potential crimninality. she is not named in fbi investigation. is that true? >> yes. is it is distinction with a difference? the doj names who is a target and everyone thinks it relates to her and is a perception of reality on that issue? >> the first thing to say is hillary clinton has been around for a long time in politics and it seems that we are back to the 1990s in some way. she is not even the nominee of her paerd party and is asking questions about an ongoing
investigation. bernie sanders is excited a lot of people. he has done a great job organizing but i don't think a lot of democrats believe he is -- >> he is not barack obama. he is what was left when the other candidates decided not to run against her because they thought she was so strong. i don't think -- this is probably one of the reasons the sanders campaign has been hitting her hard. i don't think a lot of democrats are worked up about this scandal baked into decision making. i don't think that sanders is going to go harder on this. >> this is an investigation. she is make ag political argument right now with republicans which is all fine
and there can be the political argument if it becomes an investigation on the order where it becomes a question of breaking the law that is a different proposition. then it gets beyond politics because you have the government looking into this. this isn't just staff on capitol hill who are republicans leaking this. i think she is right on. this is not iowa 2008. i don't think voters are looking for a hero this time around. they are anxious and angry. she is making an argument that i can get the job done. bernie sanders is taking on the system. this isn't about hope and change. i don't know if it is hopeful but let's change everything. and i think that is a much bigger earthquake right now. i don't think people are swooning for hillary in that regard. >> that to me is the remarkable part. this is not barack obama 2008. this is a rather cranky 74-year-old self described
socialist from vermont who has hillary clinton -- >> you dismiss the poll numbers. >> he is not a progressive democrat. >> sanders could win in iowa and new hampshire. i think he looks a lot like the traditional candidates that always give the establishment front runner in the democratic party a tough time and then fail to expand their coalition after the states of iowa and new hampshire. >> nationally sanders is getting huge pour out of crowds and contributors across the country. >> it happened in '84 and bradley gore in 2000. it happened with obama/hillary in 2008. the difference is obama unlike other candidates put together a much broader coalition. >> hillary is not a new
phenomenon. there is not this idea that -- it is novel to have a woman as president and that is what she is banking on in terms of what draws people out to her. she doesn't represent this fresh air in the political system. she is not that. she is saying i'm not that. i can get this stuff done. that is the argument. >> why the rallies are so huge? because he is authentic. he is giving voice to the angst and the anger and frustration. he is cutting through the packaging that all politicians feed us. he is not poll tested and doesn't test every word he says. >> apply that standard to jeb bush. apply the standard about authenticity. >> he is being the jeb bush that he is. maybe that is a problem.
people want an angry person. people want somebody giving voice to the angst and frustration. jeb bush wants to give solutions, pragmatic, not -- >> jeb bush said performance is not part of running for the presidency. i don't know where he has been. >> i think he has changed his mind. >> that is a huge piece of it this year more than ever. the conservative movement is about a feeling. it is not about issues but how you are making people feel. >> i had this argument with jeb so many times. jeb , you have to perform. he thought it was not dignified that when you are running for president it -- i will tell you he has a media coach. thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> don't make mama raise her voice. tomorrow the morning after the
iowa caucuses we are live from the next big place to be, manchester, new hampshire. at that point you will be miming tomorrow morning but allison will be there with me. the granite state is the next big place. let's not get ahead of ourselves. new hampshire only matters because of what happened in iowa. tonight it all begins. the first real poll that matters when voters actually caucus here in iowa. the big question in the gop side is do you pick cruz or do you pick trump? who has to come in third and in what way? glen beck is big for cruz. why? he tells us next. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, and the lowest taxes in decades, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in the hudson valley, with world class biotech.
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one reason she is so popular here in iowa we are talking about her harley. we are talking about the hog. we know her history talking about how they deal with -- let's bring in senator joni ernst. >> beautiful place and nice that it is so relevant especially this year. we know that is debatable. it is not debatable on this show this morning. you were just there for marco rubio. and you say he is a friend. you are out there talking about him, not an official endorsement. don't play politics with me? >> i am all in for a republican candidate. i will put it like that. i have a lot of friends that are in this race. we have a great slate of candidates. some good policy behind those candidates so i haven't endorsed. i won't be endorsinendorsing. i think iowans need to look at the candidates and we want someone who will be reflective
of their values. >> you could have stayed out of it. you are not someone who beats around the bush. what is the calculation here? >> the calculation is that a lot of people are very upset with washington, d.c. right now. so you are seeing that frustration as it pertains to the votes and what we might see in caucus turnout. we are expecting record numbers. if the weather holds off that is what we are going to get. >> you deserve thanks for your service not in politics but you are a retired iowa national guard. the military matters not just because you serve but you understand it. when you look at your slate who do you think is making the best case for keeping america safe? >> we sought a number of folks. we have friends i serve with in the senate. they have been engaged in those discussions. i think they are great candidates. when i look at our republican ticket and the democratic ticket you will hear republicans talking about issues of foreign policy and keeping our nation
safe. i'm not hearing that so much from hillary clinton or bernie sanders. >> it's about who has the best ideas to do something. who is saying something on a gop side different than what we are doing right now. it is easy to say we don't have a strategy. what is different? what do you hear that different? >> fellow yz have worked with in the senate some rise to the top because they have experience those areas. we have a wide swath of experience out there whether it is folks that served in the senate, governors, you name it, business men, we have it. and iowans have the choice tonight who they are going to support and what they think is important. >> what do you think of trump? >> i think we will see a lot of folks coming out to support trump. he has been very provocative and has spoken what a lut of people are thinking but don't want to
verbally say out loud. >> is that a good thing? >> i don't know that it is. it could be. it gained him a lot of support but when it comes down to policy we want to headacmake sure poli are right for america. >> i don't think he is as conservative as i am. iowa voters are going to have to make that decision. do they want someone that has really spoken very clearly about what their conservative policies are or do they want somebody that is a little more provocative and on the edge? >> so the state of play right now is trump seems to have a lead in most of the polls. it is very close. turnout is a big deal. register saying they think the projection is about normal turnout. we never know. we didn't get it right at all. trump or cruz coming out of iowa, are you okay? >> i am okay because at the end
of the day whoever nominee is on the republican ticket i will be supporting that person because i think the ideas we have coming out of the right are far better reflective and good for our nation than what i see from the left. >> do you think trump has good a chance of beating the eventual democrat? >> that is a tough one because it is going to come down to whenever that person is can they unite the party? if we can unite the party and get out the vote we can do that. >> look forward to taking a ride with you. >> absolutely. i look forward to it. >> thank you for your service. >> big deal here in iowa. that is why we have her on to talk about it. the names in play you know them all. you have donald trump, senator ted cruz. he is hoping for big turnout here. invigorating the conservative base. can he do it and why?
show donald trump widening his lead over senator ted cruz. joining us now to talk about all of this is glen beck, a ted cruz supporter and the founder of the blaze. good to see you. >> how are you? >> i'm doing well. excuse my voice. i'm fighting a bit of a cold. don't worry about that. i feel fine. let's talk about what happened over the weekend. you were stumping for ted cruz. you have endorsed ted cruz. you support him. on the stump in iowa you told the voters there at an event for the sake of my children don't vote for trump. what is the risk to your kids, glen? >> i think donald trump is a very dangerous man. nbc purchased a documentary from the bbc of a woman, one of the anchors that did a documentary and had a horrible experience with donald trump, a disturbing
experience. and she is not the only woman. megyn kelly is going through a bit of that. he sets out to destroy anything he can't have if he doesn't get his way. he has some very disturbing traits that america should pay attention to. he is a man who said i have slept with people's wives and yet he has also said he never had to ask god for forgiveness. he is a narcissist to the highest level. that is exactly the wrong person to put into the oval office. i understand the frustration of some voters but the thing we have to look for is no one man can make america great. it is we, the people. it is the people and having the government get out of the way of the people that makes america great. the dreamers at google and
microsoft didn't need the government to do it. they needed the restraint of the government. bill gates says he couldn't have started microsoft now in today's environment. that is what hurts america. and we need to return to constitutional principles. that is something that all americans used to agree on. now we are in the culture where celebrity wins. that isn't principles. that is a game show. >> i want to ask you about that. what is it that you understand that some very high profile conservatives don't understand about trump such as sarah palin endorsed him. jerry fallwell jr., they believe that he is a genuine conservative and a good candidate. what don't they get? >> i don't know. i tried to think that one through and i can't come up with an answer that is satisfying to
me. i think there are a lot of games y. talked to one high profile evangelical who i tried to say i want to understand. how can you lis toon whten to ws saying. the answer came you know the work that we are trying to do around the world. he is a very generous man. that sounds like bribery. but i don't know if that is what is happening with people. i don't know if they are captivated by his power and personality and his friendship. i don't know. but his principles are wrong. the key here, though, is ted cruz's principles are right. if you were part of the tea party, part of this movement that said we want to restore the constitutional powers of the president, this is the guy that you have been looking for. ted cruz is the guy who says the power of the oval office. it's bad for democrats.
it's bad for republicans. it's bad for all americans to continue to expand the power of the oval office. the scriptures say people will cry out for a king and then they get a king and they are destroyed. we should not be crying out for a king. we should be returning to the constitutional under pinnings that made america great in the first place. >> what do you say to people -- there is a chorus of voices that say ted cruz is not likable enough to be president? >> he is only unlikable by the establishment. he is only unlikable by the democrats and the republicans who want to make deals. he is only unlikable by many members of the media. this is a false narrative that is going on that he is unlikable. he is liked by an awful lot of people. just not the people who want to make deals. last night i was in iowa and i
talked to a crowd there and i said there is a difference. when the constitutional convention happened it was new york that said i need pork. they want us to come back with the articles of federation. we need pork for the people. and they argued about it. ben franklin and george washington said let's raise the standard that the wise and honest can repair meaning let's do this one thing right. let's not compromise our principles. we can compromise and make deals but never our principles. that is where the anger is coming from. on the left why are you looking for bernie sanders? you are looking at bernie sanders because you know clinton is under cutting your basic princip principles. she is not doing what she says she is doing. she is working for some other set of principles. the same thing with the republican party. go back to the principles that we all have in common, truth,
justice and the american way rooted in the constitution. >> glen beck, always great to get your take on things. thanks for being on "new day." >> bernie sanders building on momentum in iowa dead heat with hillary clinton. does he have a shot at the general election? the senator's wife sits down with chris exclusively for a live interview next. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. but i really love it. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon. stay strong. stay active with boost®. i'm here to get the lady of the house back on her feet. and give her the strength
senator bernie sanders making his final pitch to iowa voters ahead of tonight's caucus. starts at 7:00 p.m. central. just hours away. the presidential candidate's wife jane sanders joins us in a cnn exclusie. her first live tv interview. how are you? >> nice to be here. >> how are you? you have been in lots of campaigns with the senator. not like this one. do you think you have seen your husband change in this race? >> in some ways he seems to be
more relax skpd more funny sometimes. when you talk to him, but not in terms of issues and in terms of his principles he is very strongly the same person. he hasn't compromised them. it has been exciting to watch him. i think we have been very surprised at not the resonance of the ideas but of the fervor of the support. >> deal with the hard stuff. he has huge crowds coming out. yes, millions of contributors in small dollar amounts speaks to the populism of it. the knock not electable, too much on the fringe, gets people's hearts going but eventually he will fall. do you believe that? >> not at all. that has always been, everybody says he can't win. he won the mayor's race by ten votes. ten people stayed home and bought the he is not electable we wouldn't be here today.
they said he couldn't be a congressman. he lost the first election because the voters bought that. the next time -- he could have been elected had we not just voted because we thought he couldn't be. gl what do you tell people who say his ideas are so out there in terms of what is being done in washington right now? you won't be able to get it done. >> that's not true. i think his ideas are the same as the ideas of the american people. we want to raise the minimum wage. not everybody, but -- >> not everybody. >> but the ideas are mainstream. there is nothing totally radical about him. he we have the only piece of
significant legislation through the congress last year by working with the republicans with jeff miller in the house and john mccain in the senate. he fights for what he believes in and gets it done. i think he is respected by his colleagues. >> those are the knocks. let's talk about the pluses. everybody in the race can tell you why they should win and what they want to do for you. it is the rare candidate who would rather lose to hold on to something than win an election and move away from what is inside their head and their heart. does senator sanders have those qualities that he would rather lose this race than get elected by going in a different direction? >> absolutely. he will not compromise his principles. we won't run negative campaigns. he wants to invigorate our democracy to give them something
to work for and not against. he won't start to temper his ideas because the ideas are too big because some people say it can't be done. if there is no vision, if there is no plan to try to get it done definitely won't get done. >> so jane and bernie both from brooklyn. you are from the sophisticated part of brooklyn. you met during this mayoral. the man is running for mayor and still has the time to introduce himself to you and become a suitor? >> as a community organizer i organized the debate. >> what was it about him? the hair? the gentile manner? the way he deals with disgreemt? >> what won me over was i listened to him in the debate. i had never heard of him before. i heard what he was talking about and i felt that he
embodied everything i always believed in. and i think that is what the voters today are realizing. this is possible. whatever he said he was going to do as mayor he did. people said that is ridiculous. pie in the sky, those things aren't going to happen. he did everything he set out to do. same with the congress and the senate. he realizes that without the presidency the senate and the congress are dead locked. they are grid locked. i think he would use the presidency to bring people together and not in the way of we'll compromise and get to the center. bring people together around a vision for the country and the american people will help move the congress along. >> something that people don't usually see even on the stump and campaign and with the exposure, bernie sanders, not the senator, the man. when he was talking about himself, do we have the sound at
the town hall? >> i can give you the sound. >> can you play bernie? just tell me if you don't have it. i was asking senator sanders about what his parents had said and the senator took a pause and he said it would have been unbelievable. he got a wave of emotion over him that i had not seen before. what do people not know about your husband as a man that is a virtue? >> caucus day, come on. >> warm and wonderful. i love him more today than i ever did. i'm so proud of him. what they don't know is that he
will be there. you can count on him. that is the way everybody who knows him in vermont feels. we know that bernie is somebody who if he says something he keeps his word. if he is on your side he is there 110%. >> you believe 110%. >> i do. this is sanders. you have to give me a little bit of recognition. when we used to talk to the senator about running in the race, it was i don't know if there is a national appetite for this conversation. how shocked are you by the hordes of people that come out, young people that come out for your husband? >> we have been really surprised. we knew that his ideas would resonate. we didn't realize how much the feelings that would be out there. we feel such warmth and such support and such excitement it's
humbling is what it is. a responsibility to live up to that. >> i have never seen a politician shoo people away telling them he loves them. he wants to talk about the policy. >> he is always stopping the applause. >> he is like that. how do you feel about today? where are your nerves and expectations? >> i think that what we want is to invigorate our democracy. we want people to vote, caucus. so that's the most important thing to have high voter turnout. we believe people who are not usually involved in the system are energized and enthused about changing the status quo. and if that happens i think we do well. if that doesn't happen, if it is a lower voter turnout i think he
started at 3%. he is up in the high 40s now. we'll see what happens. we'll be okay. and we are moving on to new hampshire and staying on through the convention. >> jane sanders good to see you. >> nice to see you. >> great to listen to your story. i really enjoyed it. >> we have a big day today and tomorrow. we have a reminder after the iowa caucuses, what becomes the big deal, new hampshire. you can see us at the waterworks cafe because you know all about the granite state after -- also wednesday. another town hall. moderated by our man anderson cooper right here on cnn. hear them deal with the questions from the voters. >> we want tothank the morris cafe. cnn's coge