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see how things play out. >> we've got more evidence tonight that the democratic party is moving left. it's moving left in pretty dramatic ways. and this is going to be an issue for the party for years to come. especially with young voters are challenging liberal policies. it's going to be a challenge for hillary clinton and for the next democratic president. >> i want to thank you for joining us at home. don't go anywhere. our special live coverage continues right now, with john berman and poppy harlow. hello, everyone. welcome to a special it's not over edition of "early start." i'm john berman. >> and i'm poppy harlow. good morning to all of you. it is tuesday, february 2nd. we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. what a night. >> the breaking news is not this. it is 2:00 a.m. on the east coast.
and the race for the democrats is still too close to call, if you can believe it. we're waiting for results from a few outstanding precincts. the votes are being counted or searched for, frankly. as you can see, from the tally right there, it's the tiniest, teeny, tiny razor-thin lead, a virtual tie between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. >> and the gop, a blockbuster night, for turnout. you saw the lines going into the caucusesing. look what happened. you saw ted cruz, beating donald chump. and marco rubio. perhaps the biggest surprise of the night, though, is just how much we saw the rubio surge play out. he's headed to new hampshire. all eyes turn to new hampshire. a lot to get through. >> we want to bring in chris moody. he's in des moines. let's start with this bizarreo world we are in, at 2:00 a.m. on
the east coast, the democratic race, is it over? explain what's happening right now. >> you wouldn't have asked for a more exciting night in iowa, on the democratic side and the republican side. request if you talked to someone several months ago, she would have said, this is hillary clinton's year. she will run away with it. maybe she will get attention from other candidates but not much competition. that's not the case here in iowa. bernie sanders virtually tied with her tonight. surprising, not a lot of people that were watching this close recently. but certainly, a couple of months ago. after the caucus results were rolling in, all of the candidates gave speeches. let's listen to what bernie sanders had to say. >> do you have details on the outstanding precincts and what the democratic party are saying about where the votes are that
are missing and what they're doing to get them? >> well, it's just a couple of precincts that haven't reported. in the end, it's going to come out a tie, as far as the narrative of what people are saying about the iowa caucuses. for this, it's all about expectations in iowa. and the expectation for hillary clinton was high, that she would do well. bernie comes out an expectation winner on a night like this because he has tied the person who is supposed to be the front-runner. >> i think it's interesting, too, we heard the head of the republican party in iowa saying over the weekend, this is more than who came in first. who can exceed expectations. and by all accounts, that was marco rubio tonight. he gave a powerful, fired-up speech. we heard from ted cruiz. what stood out the most about what ted cruz said tonight if. >> he solidified himself, as somebody that is going to be
formidable in the next few weeks and months. for so long before, it looked like donald trump was going to be the person that we're going to watch out for. and he still has a lot of power going forward. by ted cruz taking it so many thousands of votes ahead of donald trump, he came out on top. and marco rubio, of course, giving a stronger showing than anyone expected. not just in third place. but right behind donald trump, a lot of people said, was supposed to take first place. let's listen to ted cruz and what he said. >> tonight, thanks to tin credible hard work of everyone gathered here, of courageous conservatives across the state, we, together, earn the votes of 48,608 iowans.
to put in perspective, your incredible victory that you have won tonight, that is the most votes ever cast for any republican primary winner. >> people will point to missteps in the way that donald trump had in the past. in october, listen to what he said about iowans last year. >> now, if i lose iowa, i will never speak to you people again. that i can tell you. >> he also said, how stupid could iowans be? he has changed his tone tonight. taken something we don't see from donald trump, that's humility. listen to what he told iowans tonight after taking second place. >> we finished second. and i want to tell you something. i'm just honored. i'm really honored. and i want to congratulate ted.
and i want to congratulate the incredible candidates, including mike huckabee, who has become a really good friend of mine. thank you to everybody. >> a tough night for donald trump, whose brand is about winning. he comes in second place. he's going to have to roar in new hampshire to show a strong showing going forward. >> all right, chris. chris moody in des moines. the result, ted cruz winning on the republican side. donald trump in second. marco rubio in third. on the democratic side, we don't know. >> we still don't know. >> they're counting right now. >> remarkable. 0.2%. a lot to digest on a night that is far from over. let's bring in our panel. all with us, all opinionated folk. let's start with the demes.
the way i heard it described earlier that stood out to me throughout the night, was movement versus machine, right? bernie's the movement. hillary clinton is the machine. actually, we have no idea what took over tonight. movement or machine. >> well, i think we do. there is some indication of that. the machine, the clinton machine, is what the ground game was. they invested heavily in iowa. she was embarrassed in iowa in 2008 because they underestimated barack obama and did not invest in the infrastructure there. they started to invest very early on. with that said, we say organization is so important in iowa. you have bernie sanders who came out of relative obscurity. a year ago, hillary clinton had 60.5%. a year ago right now in iowa. to bernie sanders at 6.7%. i say right now, too close to call. that's a movement. >> what are you hearing from the clinton team here? they wanted a clear victory.
>> sure. >> there's nothing clear, as we sit here at 2:07 a.m. maybe they squeak out the tiniest of margins. what does this do in new hampshire? >> i don't think it changes to where they were to begin with. and you're right. absolutely, they would have preferred a clear win with a wide margin. but at the end of the day, if she wins, a win is a win. but even if she doesn't win, if she doesn't win, right? let's think about this from the calculus of all of the primaries and caucuses, it would have been strange if she would have run the table. and everybody talks about how she was the prohibitive front-runner. that's the bigge myth that was e perpetrated by the media. the clinton campaign sat down her allies from a very beginning before she decided to run and said, this is not going to be easy. no matter who she runs against on the republican side, she's going to have somebody run
against her on the democratic side. and it is not going to be easy. they knew this. this is cooked into the strategy. moving forward, she's going to focus on trying to do as well as she can in new hampshire and south carolina, nevada, super tuesday. >> when you talk about the voters who came out, here's why -- let me counterargue, that clinton should be worried. it was a lot older, the voters that came out to caucus tonight, were older. that helped her compare it to four years ago and eight years ago. you can't say that's going to be the case across the board in all of the other primaries. and she barely -- we don't know if she eked it out. how much did that help her tonight? >> there's no question that, as chris said earlier this, is an expectations game in iowa. and bernie sanders won the expectations game. no one expected him to do this well. it is close to a tie, whichever way it ends up, is a win for bernie sanders and a win for his
supporters. and the only maybe silver lining in all of this is that hillary's camp has for a long time been trying to say they're not a front-runner. there's all kinds of political peril in being a front-runner. and hillary is a better candidate when she's an underdog. in 2008, after she lost to barack obama in iowa, from new hampshire on, she was a stronger candidate. and by some counts, i believe, if i'm remembering, she won more votes, not delegates from that point forward than barack obama. she gets a fire in her when she's an underdog. i think the larger issue is she can't fight against what bernie sanders stands for. that shows the biggest deficit for hillary clinton as a candidate. >> ben ferguson, let's shift gears to the republicans. ted cruz won the iowa caucuses. this after donald trump told us we were going to be sick of
winning. >> donald trump, i'll quote him tonight from one of his tweets when he says, no one ever remembers who comes in second place. well tonight, everyone remembers who came in second place. and that's donald trump. and when you put the expectations pr where he did, the whole week, people have been talking about, ted cruz is in trouble. and the front page of the newspapers, after the debate. were saying how brilliant donald trump was to skip that debate. and everyone went after ted cruz. an now, ted cruz is in trouble. i said this about iowa before. it's proof last time with santorum. iowa voters don't like to be told what they're going to do on caucus night. and i kept saying it all week long. you are underestimating the mote voters of iowa. you're underestimating the voters there. they didn't buy 2 corinthiancor.
they liked ted cruz and marco rubio. and if you're ted cruz, you may have focused on donald trump and the war back and forth. ted cruz and donald trump, are in trouble with marco rubio now. and that's the big story. >> stand by. we understand there is glee on the ted cruz campaign plane. s s sunlin, set the scene? >> reporter: we're on the plane, where senator cruz and his family and daughters are here to take off for manchester, new hampshire. before the plane took off, the flight attendants here popped champagne and served champagne to senator cruz, his wife and members of his staff. his youngest daughter, she is having fun with her dad being the man of the moment.
she's seated next to her dad, greeting each reporter as they got on, asking what's your name? and basically, get to the become of the plane, it is fastive atmosphere. a party-like atmosphere on the cruz plane. he will fly for three hours to new hampshire. and then, really hit the ground running. tomorrow, he will have a town hall at 12:30 in windham, new hampshire. senator cruz telling reporters that he feels fabulous. >> it's poppy here with john. you think of the first line that ted cruz said. to god be the glory. he went on to bash the establishment in washington, the establishment in the media. this is left up to we the people. how much is he thanking the evangelical vote tonight?
>> he opened and closed saying, god bless iowa. that was a big message to evangelicals tonight. they propped him up for his win in iowa. he is looking for this support, going forward. especially looking past new hampshire, when the cruz campaign looks for support in south carolina and the southern states. they're going to lean again on evangelicals, very conservative republicans. they want on their side. it's been a big part of the strategy. they've not tried to really appeal to moderate republicans as much. they're going straightforward to the evangelicals. and that seemed to be the message that cruz was sending tonight. >> now, on to new hampshire. sunlen on the ted cruz campaign plane. a terrific report. literally popping champagne onboard as they get ready to take off to new hampshire. >> where is ours? >> we are on for the next 3 1/2
hours. we're going to hear from her when she lands. >> it is go time. i heard rubio has an event at 6:45 in the morning. >> you have to seize the moment. things go well for you -- for all of them. if things go well, and ted cruz won. i know everyone wants to say there's marcomentum -- ted cruz won. he is the guy who has the right to pop the champagne. we don't know who has won the democratic race. >> this is true. hillary clinton and bernie sanders will take part of a presidential town hall. they they have announced the wib winners during the town hall. anderson cooper will moderate. and both candidates will take questions from voters themselves. wednesday, 8:00 p.m. ahead for us, as we've been saying all night, far too close
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votes from precincts that have yet to officially report in. you can see right there, hillary clinton with 0.2% percentage lead. 99% of the precincts reporting. this day, you know, is just not over yet. a virtual tie. but hillary clinton, she did not wait to find out the official answer before she took the stage. brianna keilar in des moines with the clinton campaign. >> talking to an exuberant crowd, flanked by her husband, the former president of the united states and her daughter, chelsea. >> as i stand here tonight, breathing a big sigh of relief. thank you, iowa. i want you to know, i will keep doing what i have done my entire life. and i will keep standing up for you. i will keep fighting for you. i will always work to achieve
the america that i believe in, where the promise of that dream that we hold out to our children and our grandchildren, never fades. but inspires generations to come. join me. let's go win the nomination. thank you, all. and god bless you. >> clinton telling this crowd, she is look forward to debating bernie sanders and her vision of this country. her next stop could be the toughest one, new hampshire, where bernie sanders is leading in the polls. brianna keilar, cnn, des moines. want to bring in our panel to weigh in. you know, who else stood out to me, guys, from clinton's speech, is she said, i'm a progressive who gets things done for people. universal health care. make college affordable for all.
as if she was speaking to bernie sanders and not to all of us, ben. she knows what she has to do here. >> she knows she is in trouble. and whether people want to admit it or not, this is not a good night for hillary clinton, especially knowing what her mistakes were last time. she had done this before. and their campaign knew how to fix it and they couldn't fix it. we're sitting here at 2:00 in the morning and we don't know who won, bernie sanders won this. i thought it was interesting the way bernie sanders was talking when he addressed the crowd, compared to hillary. hillary was trying to get excited, get angry and frustrated. and bernie looked like he had a win tonight. and hillary clinton looked like she was pushed back. and that tells you a lot about the evening and how this is going to go forward. >> you mentioned bernie sanders
and his speech. let's play a little sound from bernie sanders. he spoke to the crowd before he headed to the airport. >> nine months ago, we came to the beautiful state. we had no political organization. we had no money. we had no name recognition. and we were taking on the most powerful political organization, in the united states of america. and tonight, while the result are not known, it looks like we are in a virtual tie. >> so, sally, going back like 20 minutes ago. >> my arms are tired. >> all of me is tired, in fact. you go to the bernie sanders event. and there is passion there.
it's palpable. and the voters adore bernie sanders. and hillary clinton needs to be careful. she goes into new hampshire now. and she has to make a choice. does she turn up the heat on bernie sanders? or does she run the disciplined campaign she has been running? you talk about him but you focus on yourself and your plans. does she need to mix this up? and is there a risk in doing so? >> if we analyze the two speeches they gave side-by-side, they are very similar. we have to be careful to suggest that hillary clinton, by the way, now the leading or only woman candidate in the democratic field and the leading woman candidate, period, is somehow angry and none of the other candidates are. they are similar tone-wise. we need to be careful of that. number two, this substantive difference between hillary and bernie is fascinating. and watching hillary trying to bridge that to get enthusiasm. she's trying to walk this line
like, i agree everything senator sanders is saying. i'm just the one that can get it done because what? you're some kind of magical unicorn who can get these things done? there's this wide gap in explaining how she's the burn to deliver on the ideas that he has fired voters up on. and closing that gap is going to be her challenge. >> one of the questions i have to you, the passion gap, let's call it that, if you will. the passion gap. how does the man standing behind her, the former president, bill clinton, who was the comeback kid in 1992, how does he help his wife, now, embrace everything she stands for? and appear to the voter, even more passionate, while not reinventing herself once again. you don't think she can? >> no. i want to saturday something that sally just said. i don't want to hear it that hillary clinton was what she
was, which was rang angry, that's a sexist comment. she was angry. i don't want to go there. >> bernie sanders was angry. >> that's his thing. he's a curmudgeon. he's always angry. and people like that. but when hillary clinton is angry, we're going to call her out for it. that's not sexist. number two, does anyone believe she breathed a sigh of relief? no. no way. she's full of that. that's a bunch of b.s. she didn't breathe a sigh of relief. this is wonderful. they are not happy about what happened. >> she was ahead eight points last week. >> i wouldn't breathe a sigh of relief. but holery crap, we have to fight for this. >> someone breathe i'm going to jump in here. building on what berman said, and talking about the passion. can, say, her husband, help wide her, advise her, to do that? her team without reinventing her once again? >> absolutely. and that's something that bill clinton is brilliant at.
he's one of the most beloved politicians, democratic and republican we have seen in the country. and he, better than anybody, can fire up the democratic base and can do it on her behalf. and the other thing, building on what sally said earlier, hillary is at her best when she's clawing at it. okay? she knows she is in a fight. but like i said before, she knew she was going to be in a fight early on. and it's laughable to me to hear them talk about how bernie sanders won and he did great. and he did wonderful. he ran a fantastic campaign. but you can see how desperate republicans are, to try to boost sanders up, because they're afraid of running against him. >> last word. >> it's not desperate. here's what i take away and that is this. everyone asked a question, will bernie sanders' people show up? the same way they were talking
about donald trump. and bernie sanders and the younger millennials, not only did they show up, they caucused in a place that it is hard to caucus. the rules for a newcomer in politics, bernie sanders showed up in big numbers. they were willing to go through this for him. he has a lot of momentum. he's inspired a lot of young people. i give him full credit for that. my point is, who is walking out in a better place, you cannot tell me they're having more fun on hillary clinton's plane on bernie sanders plane. he has probably smiled more tonight than he has in 35 years. that's how good it was. >> and it was twice. he smiled twice. >> two times. that's a lot. >> all right, guys. stand by. stand by. marco rubio, just arrived in new hampshire. when we come back, we're going to talk about what he managed to do, why he thinks a bronze is a gold. why the republican establishment
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you're in the middle of the new hampshire primary. marco rubio with his family. she just wants to go to sleep. i don't care who won. i want a bed. we'll play it back again and again. marco rubio, again, arriving in new hampshire. a dramatic entrance for the florida senator. finishing third. a lot of people, including poppy harlow, that that propels him into a major player now. >> look at him. he was last poll that came out. he was polling 15% there. and you look at where the establishment money goes now. the 28% for ted cruz, 24% for donald trump. 52% for iowans voted for two people that the accomplishment hates. where does the money go now? >> the establishment money is going to go to marco rubio. let's go with not checking in with manu raju covering marco
rubio. >> reporter: a big might here for marco rubio. public polls heading into last night's show, he would end up with 15% of the vote. he did better than that. and clearly, is going to try to use this for momentum, heading into new hampshire. in new hampshire, a new focus for marco rubio. to unite the republican party establishment behind him. he is trying to make this is a race between him and ted cruz and donald trump. he wants the governors in the race, the ones who do draw support from a similar lane of voters to eventually get out of the race. he has to beat them, particularly jeb bush. also chris christie, in new hampshire. assuming he does that, he will make the case that he is the only viable alternative to cruz and trump. this is a big night for marco rubio. and one challenge for him is that ted cruz did end up on top.
the rubio campaign had been hoping because he was in second place. and that was the beginning of the end of the campaign. and ted cruz has more momentum. heading into new hampshire, this is a battle between marco rubio and the governors in the rates. he wants to make sure he outpaces them next tuesday night. >> it's entering, john. in hindsight, a deft move to turn the attack ads on to rubio. >> he is going to get second place. and then, it would have been marcomentum. in third place, imagine if he came in second. >> exactly. and also, manu raju's sources telling him that rubio's camp is going to dump more into tv ads. and bringing the total -- >> south carolina, senator kim scott will endorse marco rubio. that's a big deal. >> let's take a moment to listen to what marco rubio said when he took the podium tonight.
>> this is the moment they said would never happen. for months, for months they told us, we had no chance. they told me i needed to wait my turn. that i needed to wait in line. but tonight, tonight, here in iowa, the people of this great state, sent a very clear message. after seven years of barack obama, we are not waiting any longer to take our country back. >> i will make one ironic note here. marco rubio, his first words on the podium, this is what -- no one said would happen. literally everyone, the last week, has said that marco rubio would finish third. the question is -- >> not that close. >> much, much closer. that's what they didn't expect. you just said, poppy. "the des moines register" poll, which is supposed to be one of the most reliable, said he would be at 15%. he was at the heels of donald trump.
i don't think anyone expected that. >> not donald trump. >> that's for sure. you saw that you saw who broke for marco rubio. the people undecided, which iowa is notorious for, they broke heavily for marco rubio. that made the difference. and what hurt donald trump, not showing up to the debate on thursday hurt donald trump. not having a ground game because he thought he was going to come in and give spreechs and fly out hurt donald trump. and marco rubio put in the work. >> and he spent a day in new hampshire, which was a dumb move, i think to the iowa voters. >> trump did. >> and two days ago, i'm coming back during the same day. that's not good enough in iowa. if you look at the numbers, let's not forget, donald trump almost came in third place. that was not supposed to happen. rubio in third place. but look how close they are. i mean, if you took huckabee out of this thing, before tonight, you look at where carson is and
move forward, there's a lot of votes out there, i think not only marco rubio could gain. and some of them could come away from donald trump coming forward. but ted cruz and rubio are not going the share that many votes. donald trump and rubio could share a lot of votes. and people say, maybe rubio is a guy we can look at again. they did in iowa. they will in new hampshire. and south carolina moving forward, as well. >> you put up the chart. you can see the vote totals right now. everyone says you're the anti-establishment candidates. you add them up and you get 60%, if you include ben carson or not. if you put donald trump and marco rubio together. donald trump, not as an anti-establishment, extreme conservative candidates. maybe a guy who plays more to the middle, maybe there is a big lane in the middle, maria, which is something i know the democrats fear. >> i think that one of the things you need to look at is -- i think you mentioned this earlier, where is the money going to go? that's where you see, is there
going to be a centrist lane here? marco rubio has momentum going into new hampshire. but who is in new hampshire right now? who is camped there? you have jeb bush. you have kasich. you have chris christie. >> with the exception of kasich, who has the endorsement of seven papers there. >> they have put everything into new hampshire. so, the question is, are they going to then get out? are their tone donors going to marco rubio? the longer this goes, that donald trump who came in second -- i think we're being unfair. he's going to make second place great again. >> right. >> best line of the night so far. berman is going to jump out of his suit if we don't start talking about more about ted cruz, the actual winner. >> there's one human being who con a caucus tonight. there's no winner on the democratic side. one human has won tonight and we're barely talking about it. >> we're going to leave you with the sound -- from the only winner of the night, ted cruz.
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john bermberman, along with poppy harlow. in overtime on the iowa caucuses. do not have a result on the democratic side. hillary clinton and bernie sanders virtually tied. this has been static about an hour. with 99% of the precincts reporting. we're waiting for a handful more to report in, with the results before we get a final number. cnn is not going to declare a winner. we have to wait for the iowa democratic party. we don't know what is left. >> far too close. >> let's get a report from chris moody. he's in des moines with the latest. what are you hearing?
>> nearing 3:00 a.m. in the morning. most of the campaigns have left town. as you said, no result on the democratic side. there's a clear winner on the democratic side. the popping of champagne. the democrats watching the results. no matter what the campaigns say, we cannot call it. we're waiting for the democratic party. as of the last update, there's nothing. however, we have spoken to the hillary clinton campaign on her bus. and they're saying that they believe that they have won. that they will win. but only by a hair. they said they had a large turnout, second only to 2008. and they argue that actually helped them. but by winning, remember, iowa is an expectation game. and hillary clinton was said to be this inevitable nominee with this huge ground game. and if she wins by just a hair, is that really winning, given how well bernie sanders has done
against hillary clinton? >> chris, i mean, winning is winning. but clinton's camp, i think was interesting, took a very different tone in terms of their opinion on how tonight went than bernie sanders. what are they saying? >> well, the clinton campaign say they believe when the results are settled, that the democratic party is going to announce they have more votes and more delegates than bernie sanders. it's only by one delegate more, that shows that going into new hampshire, there's a battle. the momentum is going to be going with bernie sanders, into that state where he is polling really well. and going a lot stronger. bernie sanders is probably smiling broadly right now, if he's awake. >> chris moody, in des moines. thank you very much. let me read you a statement from the iowa democratic party. we are currently getting results from a small number of outstanding precincts.
and results continue to be reported on our public website. there's been reports earlier that there were precincts without cheers. >> from the sanders camp. >> the democratic party says that's inaccurate. the outstanding precincts have chairs the they're in the process to get the results. that's what we know right now. they're awaiting results from precinct chairs. a small handful out there. >> and some of the interesting factoids. it's interesting when you look at the young voters, age 17, that will be 18 in november, that 29. of those young voters, 84% went for sanders. 14% went for clinton. you can say, that's a huge deal. that matters so much. in this night, it didn't because there weren't so many of them. so, those that point to the young voter, is it a wasted vote if you focus on it?
what do you say? >> this close, it matters. moving forward in other states, when you get in the s.e.c., that's something that can help cerny sanders. the same way that momentum with young people -- you don't need a ton of them voting. but they make incredible volunteers on your campaign. that's one of the things that barack obama did so well the first and the second time. he had an incredible amount of young people that were willing to go knock on doors. the same way that bernie sanders did. bernie did not have a ground game. he admitted that nine months ago in iowa. where did it come from? he had a lot of college students that were coming out and going door-to-door, and working the phones for him. it wasn't the older people. it wasn't the establishment of the democratic party. it's valuable moving forward for him. and probably his biggest secret, his biggest asset, to see this. and the same way you saw rand paul, for example. when he did so well early on
with the republicans. if you looked at his rallies, a lot of young people kept him alive. you have to say, he's using them well. >> i want to switch to the republican side right now. we have a sense where ted cruz may have created distance between himself and other voters. you ask who shares your values the most? and you put that on the screen there, ted cruz by a long shot. 38% to 21% for rubio. 15% for ben carson. 7% for rand paul. donald trump is not on that screen. he's at 5%. so, ted cruz, just crushed him. >> he did. and the other place where marrow rubio crushed it was on electability. and where donald trump came in, who tells it like it is. >> only 15% of the voters cared about that, which is why we see ted cruz won. people vote for people they feel connected to. and i think that ted cruz hit that nerve there, with
evangelicals and people who are true conservatives in iowa. i want to make an observation of what's happening with the democratic said. there was an article in news week -- or "time" that the democrats were short of precinct chairs by about 200. i wonder if the fact they didn't have the acts together, if that's what is holding up and delaying the final result here. >> you heard what the democratic party in iowa said. >> i don't think they want to admit it. >> they're saying -- all we can report is the facts. >> it's important to know. >> someone is walking around with a bunch of ballots in their pocket. >> i'm confused. >> didn't we learn after florida you need people to count things? did we not learn anything? every year we come down to this. it's simple math. you put one person in one basket. you put someone in the other basket. >> that makes it exciting for us at 2:50 a.m. we don't know who won the iowa
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in the days and the weeks ahead, who is next? >> well, there's so many on the republican side. how much time do we have? this is interesting. it seems like, i want to step back and look at the big picture. democrats win big today. not only do the candidates have strong support. the two candidates on the republican side, cruz and trump are easily beaten, according to most polls for sanders or clinton. the republicans have a hope in winning in the general election, they need to unify behind a candidate that can win. frankly, i don't think the egos of the candidates who are running are small enough for them to bow out and do what's better for their party. fine with me. >> you have all of the candidates have more or less scaped iowa. john kasich, chris christie. and jeb bush has missed most of the campaign altogether. can any of them fight their way
back in? it seems hard. >> it will be difficult. i know that republicans, especially the establish republicans, are, you know, sighing with relief because they think the donald trump wind is out of his sails because he came in second. but he came in second, in a state where we knew from a lot of polling, from before this past week, he was not going to do well. and he said himself, that he wasn't going to think of competing here. but he did. and he came in second. going into the other states, he has massive leads. and the question is to your point, in new hampshire. he can win in new hampshire. but you have kasich and bush and christie, who have to do something in new hampshire. >> stand by. we have more coming up. maybe, just maybe, more results in the democratic race. we'll be right back. bend me shape me, any way you want me
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