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happening now in the "newsroom," clinton versus sanders. who's more progressive. >> senator sanders has set himself up to be the gate keeper on who's a progressive. >> you can't go and say you are a moderate on one day and with a progressive the other day. >> i know where i stand. >> the democrats duking it out on wall street iraq vet ernts care at cnn's town hall. who won over voters? also. >> talk about liars? >> trump on a tear saying cruz
stole iowa. cruz's response? >> i don't think people are interested in a trumper tantrum. >> plus an inappropriate relationship. a string of social media clues. what investigators are saying about the virginia tech student of accused of killing a 13-year-old girl. as the middle schooler is laid to rest. >> nicole touched many people throughout her short life. >> let's talk, live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. any moment now president obama set to deliver his annual remarks at the national prayer breakfast in washington. congressional members from both partying will be hosting this event. when president obama takes to the podium we'll bring you back
to the prayer breakfast. let's talk election time politics. two candidates, one stage and a fears fig fierce fight to win over voters. >> are you still an underdog? >> of course. secretary clinton ran here in 2008. and she won. her husband ran here several times before that. so this is her fourth campaign. >> i have an uphill climb and i'm going to climb as high and as hard as i can. >> do you feel you do better when fighting from behind? >> you know i don't know. i -- >> does it bring out something in you? >> well, the intensity of the experience and the importance of trying to convey what is at stake in this election.
because to me obviously tuesday is a really big deal with the primary. but the goal has to be to prevent the republicans from getting back into the white house and undoing towel progral progress that's been made. >> tough policy questions from voters. there are also some lighter moments like when sanders was asked about his age. >> you would be 83 at the end of your second term. >> but, you know, thank goodness. let's not be ageist here. >> i'm not, i'm not. >> you know, i am thank god in good health. >> and in one of the most humanizing moments of the night clinton tells voters how she stays grounded and keeps her ego in check. >> regardless how hard the days are, how difficult the decisions are, begrateful for being a
human being, being part of the universe. grateful for your limitations knowing you have to reach out to have more people with you to advise you. listen, answer the questions but in the end be grateful. practice the discipline of gratitude. >> let's bring in cnn's correspondents, both in manchester new hampshire this morning. brianna more on last night's town hall. >> this was literally a battle for liberal credentials last night. >> of course we're an underdog. we are taking on the most powerful political organization in the country and that's, you know, the clinton organization. >> only five days away from the new hampshire primary senator sanders taking off the gloves during last night's democratic town hall jabbing secretary
clinton over which candidate can claim to be progressive. >> you can't go and say you are a moderate on one day and be a progressive on the other day. >> some of my best friends are moderates. i love moderates. but you can't be a moderate and a progressive. they are different. >> clinton pushed back at his assertion when she took the stage. >> i said i'm a progressive that likes to get things done. and i was somewhat amused senator sanders set himself up to be the gate keeper on who's a progressive. because under the definition that was flying around on twitter and statements by the chain barack obama would not be a progressive. joe biden would not be a progressive. >> forcing sanders to defend her relationship with wall street. >> i do not know any progressive who has a super pac and takes $15 million from wall street. that is just not progressive. >> the former senator from new york stumbling a bit when anderson cooper asked about paid
speeches from goldman sachs. >> did you have to be paid $675 thousand? >> well i don't know. that is what they offered. so -- every secretary of state that i know has done that. >> once they are in -- >> i didn't know -- >> you must have known -- >> well to be honest i didn't know. i wasn't committed to run. >> you can't know whether you were running for president again. >> i didn't. >> -- her vote for the war in iraq. >> what have you learned since that vote that could give me confidence that you wouldn't make a mistake of that magnitude again? >> oh i think that's a very fair question. you know, i did make a mistake and i admitted that i made a mistake. and. >> that mistake one that senator sanders has repeatedly gone after. >> the key foreign policy vote of modern america history was the war in iraq.
the progressive community was pretty united in saying don't listen to bush. don't go to war. secretary clinton voted to go to war. >> but clinton standing firm. >> all i can do is to just get up every day and work to do what i believe our country needs. find ways to help people whether it's on mental health or addiction or autism or student loans or whatever it might be. and i trust the american people. the people of new hampshire, to see my lifetime of work and service and to sort out all of the static and to know that i will work my heart out for you. >> and on a personal note these candidates were asked carol about spirituality. you heard hillary clinton talk about practicing gratitude. she also said she's leaned heavily on her faith during politically and personally trying times and then bernie
sanders who recently made a little news by making it clear he's not really into organized religion talked about spirituality and how he sighs and basically everything is in that and -- >> thanks brianna. i want to bring in mark preston now. anything stand out the out to you. anything that would kwhang a voters mind. >> we've heard these candidates go at it over and over again about the major policy issues facing the nation. but what we saw last night and as brianna just stated right there we got to look a little bit inside their soul. what makes him work, think, how they get through day, what do they think about religion -- these are issues, these personality issues are really important in a campaign and often time we don't get to see it. but in a format like this in the town hall a lot of these questions are coming to voters, voters they are trying to get to
support them i think opens a window into their souls for these voters to make a tegs on tuesday. >> it was very interesting. in some ways i think a town hall is much more effective than a debate. >> yeah, you know, it is an interesting thing. why these town halls and we were very successful in iowa last week. why they are so successful right now is that at this point in time, this moment of time when voters are really focusing on these candidates as people, we know their policy positions. they have been debating several times over, okay, what is the next step? why do i want to vote for this person? likability is a major component in the decision-making process and last night that was on the stage. really helped to open windows into how the candidates think. >> mark thanks so much. so one of the big fights last night was over who's progressive and who's not. that fight went into overdrive.
a sample. >> secretary clinton said some people -- aim paraphrasing. some people call me a moderate. and i proudly, you know, say that i am a moderate." that's what she said. so all i know is you can't go and be a moderate on one day and be a progressive on the other day. some of many i best friends are moderates but you the -- >> under the definition flying around on twitter and statements by the campaign barack obama would not be a progressive. joe biden fwhoultd be a progressive. >> with me now -- welcome both of you. >> good morning. >> i can't wait to have this conversation. >> here we go. >> so mickey, why is bernie sanders the gate keeper of who's
progressive and who's not. >> >> i think that was a low blow. this is a woman who's been pushing out candidates from the presidential campaign as far as two years back. locked down every nomination and every state every endorsement. she's is it gate keeper of the the democratic party so that was a low blow. but to go to the progressive point here bernie sanders in my opinion embodies millennial. he's a millennial trapped in a 72-year-old man's body with 40 years of experience. when you put that up against an institution, you know, all of things that we're talking about, income inequality. sexism. -- >> -- spirituality fits into the millennial. >> -- can we move past the cliches here, that is great debate for political pundits with too much time on their hands. let's look at the issues and what they stand for. >> okay. let's look at the issue robert -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> -- don't interrupt.
human rights campaign the national abortion rights action league. barney frank, the author of dodd-frank wall street regulatory bill support -- >> two of the ig issues millennial are concerned and progressives big money from wall street and also war. they don't like war. and that is just -- those are the two main issues in the progressive playbook. hillary clinton was asked about donations from wall street. anderson cooper pressed her and this is what she had to say. >> look, i made speeches to lots of groups. i told them what i thought. i answered questions. >> but did you have to be paid $675 thousand. >> well i don't know. that is what they offered. >> all right. so i just want to add to that. because this is according to the washington post. they looked at the latest fec reports and they reveal that hillary clinton reached a major milestone in the fourth quarter 2015. end of december donors at hedge
funds, banks, insurance companies and other financial services firms had given at least 21.4 million dollars to support hillary clinton's run. >> and nobody has a tougher record in terms of standing up to wall street than hillary clinton does. understand -- >> nobody -- >> excuse me carol. in new york city wall street is one of the largest industries in her state. >> so they bought her out. >> that's disgraceful. don't interrupt mickey. let me finish my point. the bottom line is when they stand up for wall street regulatory reform -- she led the senate and was a leader in the party. and bernie sanders didn't stand up to his special interests in vermont when he voted five times to oppose the brady bill and -- she -- >> let me go to the bernie sanders thing. he often talks about he voted against the iraq war.
you get the sense that bernie sanders would not vote for a war of any kind. and sadly sometimes war is necessary. so is bernie sanders willing to go there is. >> well i wouldn't say war is necessary. i think conflict is a natural -- >> sometimes war is -- world war ii was. >> we're going back in time here we have a diplomacy -- [inaudible]. >> -- >> when i watched him last night talk about his positions on foreign policy he is taking a thoughtful approach. he doesn't go to war first just like barack obama. i want diplomacy, i want a coalition in the middle east before you step in. every moment hillary clinton had to choose between sending troops and not sending troops. when inforshe was in the situat room she was on the side of sending troops. >> -- incorrect. negotiated the benghazi peace aid cord and --
>> [ inaudible ]. >> -- advocating sending troops and she stood up for negotiation and achieving peace and that is to her credit. let's also remember something else. as we have this discussion, groups may disagree with you. let's not insult them by calling them institutional. human rights has been at the forefront of rights for the gay and lesbian community -- >> -- >> -- last word. >> -- institutional sexism and racism. this starts in places like wall street. who's fighting for equal pay? wall street. who accepting money from wall street? hillary clinton. more than any other -- [inaudible] -- including republicans she's accepted more money from wall street. and that is -- >> you're trying to find facts to justify your conclusions. >> -- it there. we're waiting for the president to speak at the national prayer breakfast. we're going to bring that to you
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live now to the washington hilton in washington d.c. this is the national prayer breakfast. aroma downy and mark burnett are speaking. producers of the tv mini series the bible. you hear them talking riebt now. when they are done president obama will come to the podium and we expect him to talk. the clock is ticking and the insults flying for republicans trying to seize momentum in next week's republican primaries.
chris christie is holding a town hall in keane right now. doubling down after the dismal finish in iowa. look for christie to again take swipes at marco rubio who enjoyed a surge in iowa. in the meantime the biggest brawlers are the two front runners with donald trump accusing trump-cruz of stealing votes in iowa and demanding a do over. >> oh that voter fraud. you know, these politicians are brutal. they are brutal. they are brutal. they are a bunch of dishonest cookies. i want to tell you. >> i wake up every day and laugh at the latest thing donald has tweeted. because he's losing it. >> cnn's dana bash live in mchsz new hampshire this morning. tell us more dana. >> it is kind of hard to imagine that these two men stood on a debate stage not that long ago and said how the other was so wonderful and so nice and now they are just kind of tearing
each other to bits. and i guess that is what happens when we get where we are right now. and especially after trump-cruz beat donald trump in iowa. >> this guy ted cruz goes out. >> ted cruz unloelding on donald trump. >> he's beened a voting for full on -- donald has an interesting habit of when anyone actually points to his record of simply stomping his foot and yelling liar. >> trump shot back saying exactly that blaming cruz for obamacare. the senator who became famous for a government shut down in his quest to repeal it.
trump argued that cruz's earl support for chief justice john roberts who ruled twice in favor of obamacare makes cruz culpable. >> ted cruz did that. he gave us obamacare. >> while trump and cruz bloody each other up, another republican battle is raging among candidates appealing to more mainstream voters in new hampshire. >> i will unite the conservative movement and the republican party. >> in a boost to his effort to prove that marco rubio scored an endorsement from rick santorum as he exited the presidential race. but other republican candidate whose need a new hampshire win are going after rubio. >> moorb was for amnestarco rub. and for legalization. that was his position and when conservatives told him he didn't like it and he decided he wanted
to run for president, he turned tail and ran. >> and chris christie is continuing that line oaf attack even today. this morning jeb bush is expected to do similar. he's been going after marco rubio, his former protege as somebody who is just not ready and especially coming from people who the two of them know and worked with in florida. carol what's been most interesting the two days we've been here talking to voters is how many are undecided. and really kind of open to hearing these arguments. not just against one another but more importantly what the candidates say they are for and what they are going to do. so it is, despite what the polls say there is no question it is a jump ball here in new hampshire. >> dana bash, live from new hampshire thank you. tonight anderson cooper is interviewing donald trump. and still to come, hillary clinton says she will get
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to washington d.c. and the national prayer breakfast. here is president obama. >> -- by disruptive conflict, disruptions to our environment. and it all reshapes the way we work and the way we live. it is all amplified by a media that is unceasing. and that feeds 24/7 on our -- feeds 24/7 our ever shrinking attention spans. and as a speaker i often remind people that the challenges we face are not unique. threats of previous eras, civil war or cold war or world war.
depressions. famines. those challenges put our own in perspective. more over i believe that our unique strengths as a nation make us better equipped than others to harness this change to work for us. rather than against us. and yet the shear rapidity of change and the uncertainty that it brings is real. the hardship of a family trying to make ends meet. refuges fleeing from a war torn home. those things are real. terrorism. eroding shorelines. those are real.
even the progress that america has made t affluence, the stability that so many of us enjoy. far greater prosperity than any previous generation of humanity has experienced. shines a brighter light on those who still struggle. revealed the gap in prospects that exist for the children of the world. and that gap between want and plenty it gives us vertigo. it can make us afraid. not only of the possibility that progress will stall but that maybe we have more to lose. and fear does funny things. fear can lead us to lash out against those who are different.
or lead us to try to get some sinister other under control. alternatively fear can lead us to succumb to despair or paralysis. or cynicism. fear can feed our most selfish impulses. and erode the bonds of community. it is a primal emotion, fear. one that we all experience. and it can be contagious. spreading through societies. and through nations. and if we let it consume us, the consequences of that fear can be
worse than any outward threat. for me -- and i know for so many of you -- faith is the great cure for fear. jesus is a good cure for fear. god gives believers the power, the love, the sound mind required to conquer any fear. and what more important moment for that faith than right now. what better time than these changing tumultuous times to have jesus standing beside us, steadying our minds, claeeansin
our hearts, pointing us towards what matters. [ applause ] his love gives us the power to resist fear's temptations. he gives us the courage to reach out to others across that divide rather than push people away. he gives us the courage to go against the conventional wisdom and stand up for what's right even when it is not popular. to stand up not just to our enemies but sometimes to stand up to our friends.
he gives us the fortitude to sacrifice ourselves for a larger cause. or to make tough decisions knowing that we can only do our be best. less of me, more of god. and then to have the courage to admit our failings and our sins, while pledging to learn from our mistakes. and to try to do better. certainly during the course of this enormous privilege to have served as the president of the united states, that is what faith has done for me. it helps me deal with the common every day fears that we all share. the main one i'm feeling right now is that our children grow up
too fast. they're leaving. that's a tough deal. and so as a parent you're worrying about will some harm befall them? how are they going to manage without you? did you miss some central moment in their lives? will they call? [ voice cracks ] [ laughter ] or text? each day we're fearful that god's purpose becomes elusive or cloudy. we try to figure out how we fit into his broader plan. there are universal fears that we have.
and my faith helps me to manage those. and then my faith helps me to deal with some of the unique elements of my job. as one of the great departed heros of our age, nelson mandela once said i learned courage was not absence of fear but the triumph over it. the brave man is not he who does not feel afraid but he who congressers th conquers that fear." and certainly there are times i've had to repeat that to myself while holding this office. when you hear from a parade of experts just days after you are elected that another great depression is a very real possibility, that will get your attention. when you tell a room full of young cadets that you have made a decision to send them into
harm's way knowing that some of them might not return safe ly, that is sobering. when you hold in your arms the mothers and fathers of innocent children gunned down in their classroom, that reminds you there is evil in the world. and so you come to understand what president lincoln meant when he said that he'd been driven to his knees by the overwhelming conviction that he had no place else to go. and so like every president, like every leader, like every person, i've known fear. but my faith tells me that i need not fear death. that the acceptance of christ promises ever lasting life in the washing away of sins.
if -- [ applause ] -- if scripture instructs me to put on the full armor of god so that when trouble comes i'm able to stand, then sure lly i can fe down these temporal setbacks. surely i is battle back doubts, surely i will rouse myself to action. and should that faith waiver. should i lose my way, i have drawn strength not only from a remarkable wife, not only from incredible colleagues and friends. but i've drawn strength from witnessing all across this country and all around this
world good people. of all faiths. who do the lord's work each and every day. who wield that power. and love and sound mind. to feed the hungry. and heal the sick. to teach our children. and welcome the stranger. think about the extraordinary work of the congregations and faith communities represented here today. whether fighting global poverty or working to end the scourge of human trafficking, you are the leaders of what pope francis calls this march of living hope. when the earth cleaves in haiti, christians, sikhs and other faith groups sent volunteers to
distribute aid, tend to the wound, rebuild homes for the homeless. when ebola ravaged west africa, jewish, christian, muslim groups responded to the outbreak to save lives. and as the news fanned the flames of fear, churches and mosques responded with a powerful rebuke welcoming survivors into their pews. when nine worshippers were murdered in a charleston church basement. there was people of all faiths who came together to wrap a shattered community in love and understandin understanding. when syrian refuges seek the sanctuary of our shore, it is synagogue, mosque, temples and churches are the first to
welcome them. even now people of different faiths and believes are coming together to help people suffering in flint. and then there is the most, less spectacular more quiet efforts of congregations all across this country. just helping people. seeing god in others. and we're driven to do this. because we're driven by the value that so many of our faiths teach us. i am my brother's keeper. i am my sister's keeper. as christians, we do this compelled by the gospel of jesus. the command to love god and love one another. and so yes, like every person, there are times where i'm
fearful. but my faith and more importantly, the faith that i've seen in so many of you, the god i see in you, that makes me inevitably hopeful about our future. i've seen so many who know that god has not given us a spirit of fear. he has given us power and love and a sound mind. we see that spirit in people like pastor saed abedini imprisoned for no other reason than holding god in his hurt. and we give thanks that he is home safe. [ applause ] we pray for god's protection for all around the world who are not free to practice their faith.
including christians who are persecuted or who have been driven from their homelands by unspeakable violence. [ applause ] and just as we call on other countries to respect the rights of religious minorities we too respect the right of every single american to practice their faith freely. [ applause ] this is this is what each of us is called on to do. to seek our common humanity in each other. to make sure our politics and our public discourse reflect that same spirit of love and sound mind. to assume the best in each other and not just the worst. and not just at the national prayer breakfast.
to begin eep of our works from the shared belief that all of us want what's good. and right for our country and our future. we can draw such strength from the quiet moments of heroism around us every single day. so let me close with with two such stories that i've come to know just over the past week. a week ago i spoke at a ceremony. held at the israeli embassy for the first time. honoring the courage of people who saved jews during the holocaust. and one of the recipients was the grandson -- or the son of an
american soldier who had been captured by the nazis. so a group of american soldiers are captured. and their captors ordered jewish pows to identify themselves. and one sergeant, a christian named roddy edmunds from tennessee, ordered all american troops to report alongside him. they lined up in formation. approximately 200 of them. and the nazi colonel said i asked only for the jewish pows
and said these can't all be jewish. and master sergeant edmunds stood there and said we are all jews. and the colonel took out his pistol and held it to the master sergeant's head and said tell me who the jews are. and he repeated "we are all jews." and faced with the choice of shooting all of those soldiers, the nazis relented. and so through his moral clarity, through an act of faith, sergeant edmunds saved the lives of his jewish brothers in arms.
[ applause ] second story, just yesterday, some of you may be aware i visited a mosque in baltimore. to let our muslim american brothers and sisters know that they too are americans and welcome here. [ applause ] and there i met a muslim american named rami who runs a non profit working for social change in chicago and forms coalitions with churches and latino groups and african americans and this poor neighborhood in chicago. and he told me about how the day after the tragedy in san bernardino happened he took his
three young children to a playground in the marquette park neighborhood. and while they were out the time came for one of the five daily prayers, that are essential to the muslim tradition. and on any other day he told me he would have immediately put his rug out on the grass right there and paradrayed. but that day he paused. he feared any unwelcome attention he might attract to himself and his children. and daughter asked him, what are you doing, dad? isn't it time to pray? and he thought of all the times he had told her the story of the day, that dr. martin luther king
junior and rabbi robert marks and 700 people marched to that very same park, and during hatred and bigotry, dodging rocks and bottles and hateful words in order to challenge chicago housing segregation and to ask america to live up to our highest ideals, and so at that moment, drawing from the courage of men of different religions of a different time, rhami refused to teach his children to be afraid. i'm stead, he taught them to be a part of legacy of faith and good conscious. i want them to understand that sometimes faith will be tested, he told me, and that we will be asked to show immense courage like others have before us, to make our city, our country, and a world a better reflection of
all our ideals, and he put down his rug and he prayed. now, those two stories, they give me courage, and they give me hope. and they instruct me in my own christian faith. i can't imagine a moment in which that young american sergeant expressed his christianity more profoundly than when confronted by his own death he said we are all jews. [ applause ] >> i can't imagine a clearer expression of jesus' teachings. i can't imagine a better expression of the peaceful spirit of islam than when a muslim father filled with fear
drew from the example of a baptist preacher and a jewish rabbi to teach his children what god demands. [ applause ] >> for god has not given us a spirit of fear. but of power and of love and of a sound mind. i pray that by his grace we all find the courage to set such examples in our own lives. not just during this wonderful gathering and fellowship. not just in the public piety that we profess. but in the smaller moments. when it's difficult, when we're
challenged, when we're angry, when we're confronted with someone who doesn't agree with us. when no one is watching. i pray as roma so beautifully said, that our differences ultimately are bridged, that the god that is in each of us comes together. and that we don't divide. i pray that our leaders will always act with humility and generosity. i pray that my failings are forgiven. i pray that we will uphold our obligation to be good stewards of god's creation, this beautiful planet. i pray that we will see every
single child as our own, each worthy of our love and of our compassion. and i pray we answer scriptures' call to stand up for justice and ensure that every human being lives in dignity. that's my prayer for this breakfast and for this country in the years to come. may god bless you and may he continue to bless this country that we love. >> president obama speaking at the national prayer breakfast. his last speech. he's going to leave office in a very short time. let's head back to washington and check in with michelle. his closing remarks were touching, actually. >> reporter: right. this is his opportunity to deliver a kind of sermon. i mean, that's the point of this, talking about faith, and it's also a chance for him to morally call out his opponentop. the goal, obviously, was to be
positive. that's the message the white house keeps repeating, as a counter to the political rhetoric out there. he wanted to be inclusive. he mentioned christians j jews and muslims. if you think he wasn't calling out his opponents, think again. he made no mistake in talking about the fear. we've heard the white house mention over and over again the last couple of weeks, especially leading up to actual votes in the presidential election, how his opponents are about fear and pessimism. in this case, he talked about how fear leads to people singling out those who are different. it leads to cynicism. his point was that faith is the cure for that. and faith calls every american to respect the rights of every american. that's really what he wanted to get across there. again, he never mentioned anybody by name, but make no mistake, he is talking about all that rhetoric that's been circulating for months. >> i think we all got that idea.
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happening now in the news room, clinton versus sanders. who is more progressive? >> senator sanders set himself up to be the gate keep about who is a from greszive. i know where i stand. >> duking it out at cnn's town hall. who won over voters? >> cruz goes out. you talk about liars. >> trump saying cruz stole iowa. >> that voter fraud. >> cruz's response? i don't think people are interested in a temper tantrum, or you could call it a trumper
tantrum. >> the government has released new travel guidelines for pregnant women over the zika virus. let's talk live in the "cnn newsroom." good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. hillary clinton and bernie sanders go head to head and battle it out on the same stage just days before the new hampshire primary. the race for the granite state heating up as clinton and sanders compete for votes during cnn's town hall. the big question, did this help voters make up their minds in the rivals trading punches on policy and what it means to be a progressive. as voters unleash tough questions directed to the candidates. >> you can't go and say you're a moderate one day and be a progressive on the other day. some of my best friends are moderates. i love moderates but you can't be a moderate and a progressive. they are different. >> i said that i'm a
prodepressive who likes to get things done, and i was somewhat amused today that senator sanders has set himself up to be the gate keeper on who's is progressive. under the definition that was flying around and statements by the campaign, barack obama would not be a progressive, joe biden would not be a progressive. >> i do not know any progressive who has a superpac and takes $15 million from wall street. that's just not progressive. >> one of the things that senator sanders points to and critics is you were paid 675,000 for three speeches by goldman sacs. was that ace mick a. >> i told them what i thought. i answered questions. >> did you have to be paid $675,000? >> i don't know. that's what they offered, so -- you know, every secretary of state that i know has done that.
>> but that's -- once they're office and not running for an office again. >> to be honest, i wasn't committed to running. >> the key foreign policy vote of modern american history was the war in iraq. the progressive community was pretty united in saying don't listen to bush. don't go to war. secretary clinton voted to go to war. >> i did make a mistake, and i admitted that i made a mistake, and in large measure, that mistake really arose from the bush administration's approach to what they thought they could accomplish in iraq. >> you were on the veteran's affairs committee for eight years. you headed it for two years. there were 18 inspector general reports talking about problems plaguing the v.a. why did it take too long to act?
>> fair question. and i think the answer is that we have worked on many, many issues, and your point is fair that we should have acted sooner. we should have known what was going on in phoenix, those waiting lines and the liars that some administrators were telling us. >> let's bring in our senior political correspondent live in manchester, new hampshire. what stood out to you? >> reporter: you know, i think the main overarching theme was a battle for liberal credentials, but there were a number of really interesting moments. it's one of the reasons why i personally like this town hall format. one was a sort of personal note, and something that we especially hadn't heard from senator sanders, and that was both of these candidates talking about religion and their spirituality. here's what they said. >> what do you say to a voter out there who says -- and who
sees faith as a guiding principle in their lives and wants it to be a guiding principle -- >> it's a guiding principle in my life. absolutely it is. everybody practices religion in a different way. to me, i would not be here tonight -- i would not be running for president of the united states if i did not have very strong religious and spiritual feelings. my spirituality is that we are all in this together. and that when children go hungry, when veterans sleep out on the street, it impacts me. that's my strong spiritual feeling. >> i'm constantly trying to balance how do i assume the mantle of a position as essentially agust, as president of the united states, and not lose track of who i am, what i believe in, and what i want to do to serve. i have that dialogue at least
once a day in some setting or another. and i don't know that there is any, ever, absolute answer, like, okay, universe kwar, here, watch me roar, or oh my gosh, i can't do it, it's overwhelming, i have to retreat. it's that balance that i try to find in my life that i want to see back in our country, and it will be something that i continue to talk about with a group of faith advisors who are close to me. >> reporter: it was also noteworthy, carol, that each of these candidates faced a question that was pretty obvious for hillary clinton it was wall street. and the money she has accepted to speak. six figure paydays just to do a speech before -- or a speech maybe hosted by a bank, and for bernie sanders, it was about the v.a. you were the chairman of the v.a. committee at a certain point, and there was this huge
scandal where veterans were waiting ridiculous amounts of time to get help, basically, and i thought each of them sort of struggled a little bit with the answer to this question about a vulnerability of theirs that you would have thought they would have been a little more prepared for. >> it's only get to get worse from here, right? >> reporter: definitely, and i think you're going to hear this wall street attack line that sanders is using against clinton, i think this is just going to continue, and i also think that that veteran's question that we heard him asked is something that may continue as well once we get beyond new hampshire. >> all right. reporting live for us from manchester, new hampshire. let's talk more about the town hall. i want to bring in a panel, keith boykin and angela rooi. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. i want to touch on the religion question for just a second.
do democratic rovoters overwhelmingly care about a candidate's faith? >> that is a good question, carol. i don't think that a candidate's faith in the democratic party will determine whether voters will support that candidate or not. both hillary clinton and bernie sanders, i think, are within the mainstream in terms of faith issues, and i don't think it's an issue that resonates as much as it does with the republican party. it's interesting insight. it's refreshing to hear them talk about it, but i don't think voters will decide who to choose based on that. >> angela, i want to move to the minority vote. a source just told us that ben jealous, the former head of the naacp will endorse sanders. let's listen to an answer by sanders last night.
>> we are reaching out as strongly as we can, for example, to the african american community and to the latino community. and i think that we are gaining more and more support in those communities. for a couple of reasons, number one, within the african american community it's not only an economic issue, raising the minimum wage and providing jobs, youth unemployment for african american kids is 51 % now. those are important issues. i'll tell you what is else an important issue. that is the criminal justice issue. >> so, angela, are more minority leaders going bernie sanders' way? does he need more, and what did you think of his answer? >> a couple of things. i think he's been pretty consistent on mass incarceration and the fact that there needs to be criminal reform in this country, and he's also talked several times about minority youth unemployment. that's nothing new under the
sun. the cbc has been talking about summer jobs and youth employment for years. this is something that's familiar to me and a lot of people of color in this country. what's puzzling to me for sanders is a piece written a week or two ago on senator sanders' position on reparations. he is very democratic socialist. we criticized clinton and the fact that she's not progressive enough or sometimes she is and sometimes she's moderate. all of a sudden we see sanders get moderate when it's time to talk about reparations which is a huge issue. you would expect someone who labels themselves as a democratic socialist to support reparations. >> the black caucus is endorsing hillary clinton. >> the congressional black caucus has endorsed hillary clinton, but several members of congress are deciding who they are going to endorse.
>> so, keith, what do you make of this fight for minority voters? who is winning in your mind, for lack of a better way to put it? >> that's a tough question. i think hillary clinton has a strong record, a long record, i should say, in dealing with african americans, and i think that's part of the reason why she has sort of the early support, but you remember back in 20 08, she was leading in the polls with black voters before the iowa caucuses. it wasn't until barack obama won the iowa caucuses that african american voters started to turn around and support him more. i don't think it was because they were critical of obama, but because they thought clinton was the most practical candidate and obama would have his chance in the future, but that was going back to 2007 and 2008. i think today bernie sanders has some work to do to sort of reach out to african american voters because they don't have the sense of familiarity with them as they do with the clintons. hillary clinton is wise to tie herself to obama which she's starting to do and has done
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take a look -- okay? you know. oh, that voter fraud. you know, these politicians are brutal. they're brutal. voter violation, and then it has all sorts of problems and then it says into vote for this guy, and i said, man, that's like a fraud. >> all right. from those accusations that term was born, trumper tantrum. >> it is no surprise that donald is throwing yet another temper tantrum, or if you like, a trumper tantrum. his reaction is engage in insults. i understand that donald finds it very hard to lose. >> with me now, rick tyler, the national spokesperson for cruz. welcome, rick. >> good morning. >> thanks for waiting. i know you waited through president obama's remarks. i appreciate that. >> no problem.
>> do you think that engaging trump in a war of words is helping anything? >> well, you notice cruz doesn't respond to his war of words. he doesn't. he defends himself. donald trump is a sore loser. he lost the iowa caucus. ben carson outperformed his numbers. ted cruz outperformed his numbers, donald trump didn't, and that can't be his fault. that has to be somebody else's fault. he's now lashing out. he's actually calling for a recall, and i guess they can do it and maybe he'll make mexico pay for it. >> you know, one way the cruz campaign could settle this is to fire the iowa staffer responsible for planting the notion that ben carson was going to drop out of the race. why not fire that staffer? >> well, it was a little bit like telephone. the staff sent out a message repeating the cnn reporting
which was accurate, by the way, and that got translated to suggest that carson might be dropping out, but i don't think it was widespread, and i don't think anybody was convinced by it. again, nobody -- carson outperformed his numbers. this isn't about ben carson. it's about donald trump. he's trying to find a way to get back in. he's upset nobody is talking about him. what was instructive about the iowa caucuses, and nobody has been reporting -- >> let's go back for a second to the staffer. should there be any disciplinary action at all? what this staffer did was serious. he told caucus impgoers that can was going to drop out of the race and they could now support cruz. >> look, we told everybody they should throw their support to ted cruz, not just carson voters. all the voters. >> i mean the part about carson dropping out of the presidential race. >> he didn't directly say he was dropping out.
he was inferring, as some of your correspondents inferred -- >> no, they didn't. >> well, no, they said you're not serious about running for president, or maybe you don't want to be president. that was said on this network. and that's a fair analysis, i think. and so that information was shared. >> let me report -- just to clear this up so my viewers understand, this is what this staffer sent out. breaking news, the press is reporting that dr. ben carson is taking off from the campaign trail after iowa and making a big announcement next week. that's the e-mail. urge people to caucus for ted cruz and inform them of this use. now, ben carson is really angry about that. >> well, ben carson went to florida, and that was what was reported, and that's what -- that's the information that we relayed. i don't know why ben carson
announced he was going to florida and then d.c. that was his big announcement, he was going to speak at the prayer breakfast. everything about that is accurate. that's what happened. but, again, it's not about ben carson. this is about donald trump. ben carson outperformed his numbers. donald trump juntunderperformed numbers. so he's going to call fear, uncertainty and doubt, fud, that's what salesmen do who can't rely on their product. he doesn't have anything positive to sell. he doesn't know whoo what a ground game is this week. the weather here has been great. we've knocked on 50,000 doors this week. we're making hundreds of thousands of phone calls. we're trying hard to win here -- >> well, still. in light of all of what you just said, most polls show donald trump is ahead in new hampshire by 20 points. >> he is. >> so -- >> that's right.
there's a big expectation that he should win, and rubio has momentum coming out of iowa. there's a lot of pressure on him winning, and lots of counterparts are attacking rubio, not cruz. we want to represent the conservatives in new hampshire. they have said they're grateful for having a conservative to vote for, the first conservative since ronald reagan. we're excited about being able to represent those people and give them someone to vote for. >> let me if ask you this. i know cruz wants to attract more support in new hampshire. after his iowa win, this is how he thanks voters. let's listen. >> god bless the great state of iowa. >> let me, first of all, say to god be the glory. tonight is a victory for the glass roots.
>> all right. so new hampshire has the second lowest rate of church attendance in the country. most of the country, sadly, is not so religious, so will ted cruz adjust his language a little? and might that -- might his language be sort of giving new hampshire voters pause? >> i don't know. i heard the president just now give a great speech where he talked about jesus christ as our savior. people are open about their faith. i don't think anybody is offended that cruz is a faithful person. look at the numbers in iowa. cruz led the largest turnout of iowa voters. he couldn't have done that if we only had evangelicals. there was a broad base of support and people you wouldn't expect to vote for cruz. we had a data driven campaign. we got the people to the polls and cruz led. he got the most votes any
republican out of iowa. he did well among evangelicals, but we wouldn't have won without a broad support base of tea party. he started with the tea party. the tea party put him in the u.s. senate and continues to support him. we're getting a lot of libertarian votes. we had a new hampshire state representative who endorsed us. he was a rand paul libertarian supporters. he endorsed us today. we're excited about that. we raised $10 million since the beginning of the year, and remember, the democrat vote went down 30 % over the last open seat which was back in 2008. the republican vote in iowa went up 30%, and i'm reading those reports about electability. here's the study we need to look at, iowa. ted cruz drove the largest number of the people to the caucuses. you need someone -- >> donald trump could make the same argument, right? >> but he didn't. he said he would, but he didn't drive the people to the polls. everybody thought they would,
but it was actually ted cruz who drove people to the polls because he won. he had the largest vote. >> that's right. rick tyler, thank you so much for joining me. >> you bet. >> with cruz and trump hitting each other, the other gop candidates are hitting the stump. with four town halls getting underway this hour alone. phil matingly is at an event, and another at a rubio event. phil, let's start with you. good morning. >> good morning. carol. for chris christie, this is really his moment. he's got five days left before the primary that he said yesterday he's making his last stand on. this is his 70th day in the state since the cycle started. there's a pathway. as many as 60% of voters in this state are only leaning one way or are undecided. they believe they can close that gap and another key moment, attacking rubio. he's been explicit in his swipes
at rubio in recent days j sharpening the contrast and going after him on abortion and rubio's exceptions. this is a lircelectorate than i. >> if chris christie does not fair well in new hampshire, do you think he'll drop out of the race? >> reporter: right now his team is not saying yes or no, but the fact of the matter is this. if he doesn't fair well here, he's going to run out of money. he has an okay finance structure, but they have been explicit. this is their key state. this is where they have to make a move, and they can make a move in the days ahead if he breaks out. >> thank you. let's go to the rubio rally. good morning. tell us more. >> reporter: good morning. marco rubio has a different strategy. he's trying to keep this a three man race, looking at donald
trump, actually, not really engaging donald trump. he's really going after cruz more aggressively. he wants to see this to be the beginning of the end of the cruz campaign. if cruz doesn't fair well. i don't think right now the rubio campaign views christie as much of a threat as christie views himself, which is one reason by christie is really sharpening the attacks. it was interesting to hear chris christie go after marco rubio on the issue of abortion. you don't really hear that happening in the republican campaign. but marco rubio only supports exceptions to save the life of a mother, not for rape or incest. i had a chance to ask him about that last week. he said he would sign legislation that only had that one exception for the life of a mother if it were to restrict abortion. that's an issue that chris christie sees. the question is whether rubio can seize the momentum in iowa and take it to new hampshire. >> many thanks. tonight donald trump is joining
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underdog in the democratic race. >> are you still an underdog? >> of course we're an underdog. secretary clinton, obviously, ran here in 2008, and she won. her husband ran here several times before that. so this is her fourth campaign in new hampshire in their family. >> i have an uphill climb, and i'm going to climb as high as i can. i want to make my case to the people of new hampshire. >> reporter: do you feel you're doing better fighting from behind? >> i don't know. >> reporter: does it bring out something in you? >> well, the intensity of the experience and the importance of trying to convey what's at stake in this election. to me, obviously tuesday is a really big deal with the primary. but the goal has to be to prevent the republicans from getting back into the white house, and i'm doing all the progress that has been made under president obama. >> according to latest poll, it is clinton who is the underdog.
she's trailing sanders by 23% in the granite state. let's talk about that with brian fallon, the press secretary for the clinton campaign. welcome. >> hi. thanks for having me. >> why is this underdog thing so important? >> well, i just think that if you look at the polling there's no doubt that senator sanders goes into next tuesday's contest as the favorite. he has a lead here in new hampshire. he's had it for quite a while now. and that owes in part of the fact that he's known here in new hampshire, having been the senator and the congressman before that from neighboring vermont, and we have our work cut out for us, but hillary clinton is going to pour her heart into this campaign over the next five days. we'll be here throughout, all the way to tuesday. >> so what percentage -- >> she's going to have another opportunity to make her case.
>> that's true. what percentage of the vote in new hampshire will she need to say she did great in new hampshire in. >> i'm not sure what number to put on it. i think if we can pour or heart into this campaign and continue to put her in front of new hampshire voters where she can make clear everything she wants to do to build on the progress we've made under president obama, i think we can have a good showing. it will be an up hill climb in terms of winning. we can have a strong showing as he continues to make her case in front of new hampshire voters. >> one of the things progressives are upset about is hillary clinton's ties to wall street. there was an exchange at the town hall between jrnanderson cooper and clinton. >> i made speeches to lots of groups. i told them what i thought. i answered questions. >> did you have to be paid $675,000? >> well, i don't know. that's what they offered -- so.
>> and, of course, these speeches were given before audiences, and were put on by big banks. also "the washington post" just reporting it has the latest fec reports. it reveals that hillary clinton reached a major milestone during the fourth quarter of 2015. through the end of december, donors of financial services firms had given at least 21.4 million to support her 2016 presidential run. that's an awful lot of money. a lot of progressives feel she'll be beholden to big banks because of that. there's no way out. >> no so that doesn't tell the full story. we've actually gotten more than 90% of the contributions from those giving $100 or less. as secretary clinton pointed out before -- >> still, that's a lot of money. 21.4 million. she's raised more money that big
banks than bill clinton did during his presidential run. >> i think the salience of the point rises or falls on whether sander who is has made this attack on secretary clinton can point to any area where there's evidence that it has compromised her approach to regulating wall street. the reality is during her time as a senator she has put forward strict, tough plans for cracking down on the abuse of practices that led to the crisis in 2007 and 2008. i think voters are sophisticated here in new hampshire and they are going to want to know the evidence that senator sanders would put forward to suggest that this money has had any influence on her positions. the evidence isn't there. >> the other line of attack that bernie sanders laid forward last night was hillary clinton's support for the iraq war, and he pounded away at that. there was an audience member who
asked a question of hillary clinton. she answered it, and i know she's apologized for her vote for the iraq war, but the issue doesn't seem to be going away. >> this was an issue that was front and center during the 2008 campaign for the democratic nomination. it was the subject of much back and forth between secretary clinton and then senator obama. obviously in the aftermath of that primary, despite that issue being contested back and forth, president obama certainly had the confidence in hillary clint clinton's foreign policy judgment that he made her secretary of state. she proved herself in that job. i think when voters are contemplating who has the judgment and the experience to be commander in chief, they will decide it's hillary clinton, and with all due respect to senator sander, he, quite frankly, doesn't like to engage on the topic of foreign affairs. he seeks to avoid questions
about it. that's because many of his proposals lack knowledge of the middle east. he calls for people to be placed in syria to combat isis. he said he wants to move aggressive to normalize relations with iran, and some of those comments are dangerous. he has since had to walk back some of those comments. >> so you think senator sanders might be dangerous for country when it comes to foreign policy? >> the particular proposal of placing iranian troops in syria is a very dangerous prospect, and i think that senator sanders' campaign should have to account for whether he stands for that position or if he thinks it would be too risky. >> all right. i have to leave it there. thanks for stopping by. still to come, charges of voter fraud and trumper tran
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did i mention only five days until new hampshire voters go to the polls? now you'll know. the fight between cruz and trump is getting uglier because of that. trump doubling down on his accusations that cruz cheated his way to victory. let's talk. a bush supporter is with us and republican strategist, and an editor for the national journalist is also with us. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. so this fight between trump and cruz is getting quite nasty. will it help or hurt either of them, anna? >> oh, you know, look, i think it's got to happen. they are clearly donald trump was surprised, taken aback by cruz's win in iowa. and he's going to fight back. and ted cruz, now, is no locker in a bromance with donald trump, and he's finally coming up and
criticizing donald trump, and it's going to get ugly. it's going to get nasty. this is a presidential primary. this is not a game of patty cake. this is what we should expect. >> okay. speaking of this is not a game of patty cake. there was an interesting op ed in the washington steet that said marco rubio is running scared because he's not attacking trump at all. this reporter writes in part, he's stumping through new hampshire as if he's campaigning to win the cautious caucus. rubio determination not been taken off his bland message to engage trump may give the impression that he is above the fray, but it can also make him look weak and callow. what do you think? >> well, look, rubio is trying to be acceptable to the broadest range of republicans. that has been his strategy to try to have one foot in every camp and to benefit from something like this fight which hurts both of them.
it e enforces the negative perception this kind of dirty tricks and the biggest problem with trump is the questioning of whether he has the temperament to be president and kind of relitigating losing the iowa caucus, i think reinforcing those doubts. rubio is hoping to draw a little bit from everywhere. the challenge is it may not be deep enough in one pool to emerge on the top. we'll see after new hampshire. >> it seems rubio's campaign events, he gives the same speech and says the same things. voters are starting to notice that. >> marco rubio does what people tell every politician to do, which is to stay on message. the problem is that in a place like new hampshire, voters come up with all sorts of questions, love town halls, love impromptu and folks who show a sense of humor and show themselves. way want to get to know the candidates. voters go to everybody's town
halls. they listen to the speeches and they want to know what the differences are. canned speeches don't sell well in a place like that. marco is one of the most eloquent political candidates out there. i will tell you on both sides of the aisle. believe me. i've been hearing that speech now for about ten years. i've never heard him not give it well. but, yes, i think he has got to show his heart in new hampshire. >> all right. i have to leave it there. anna and ron, thank you. >> still to come in the news room, the nation's health experts issuing new advice on the zika virus. if you're pregnant, you don't have to leave home to be at risk. we'll have the details for you ahead. at laquinta.com. avo: he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. avo: so he knows exactly when he can settle in and practice his big pitch. avo: and when craig gets his pitch down pat, do you know what he becomes? client: great proposal! let's talk more over golf! craig: great. client: better yet, how about over tennis craig: even better. avo: a game changer!
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gone to one of these countries and returned. but the guidance is for women who are pregnant. >> it's obvious if you have the zika virus, it's obvious, and people will know, right? so you don't have sex with your partner? >> not necessarily. i mean, look. most of the people, frankly, probably won't know. 80% of the people will have few symptoms. if you've gone to one of these countries and come back, if you're concerned, you can get tested. the guidance are saying because of the possibility you may have been infected and not know, you have to practice safe sex with a woman who is pregnant. >> that's really scary. it's winter time now. so mosquitos aren't out in force in the united states. >> that will reverse in south america. it's going to start getting cooler there as it gets warmer there. the problem will start to decrease in that hemisphere.
these are mostly in southern florida and southern texas, tropical climates. it's possible to have localized outbreaks in those areas. there's similar illnesses, tens of millions of cases around the world, the mosquitos that transmit that located in certain areas in the united states, but we've not seen the outbreaks. we have screens and air-conditioned buildings, but those things have prevented those things from becoming widespread. it's likely to see more cases of zika virus, but most people don't expect more beyond that. >> thanks for stopping by. when we come back, we'll talk super bowl. ♪ beth, i hear you calling.♪. ♪ but i can't come home right now... ♪
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