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voila. remotes, come out from the cushions, you are back. the x1 voice remote is here. good evening from manchester, new hampshire, the granite state, site of the first presidential primary of the 2016 campaign, a primary that is just five days way. the candidates had multiple events scheduled as they try to reach out to as many voters as possible. today that effort brought donald trump to theo's restaurant here in manchester, where he took questions from locals and from me. i asked him about his loss in iowa after which trump went on twitter accusing ted cruz of fraud and calling for a new vote. >> you came in second in iowa to ted cruz. let's talk about cruz. you've basically accused him of fraud, of stealing the election in iowa. you talked about wanting a new election this. have you actually spoken to
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republican party officials about that? >> no, look, i'm into new hampshire now. it's just one of those things. it was sort of a lot of strange things. and you know i like ben carson very much. and he got pretty roughed up, frankly. although it affected me maybe more than ben. but i'm so much because i've been here for two days, i'm so much into this, into new hampshire that i don't care than anymore. >> one more on ted cruz. he did say that you basically had a trumper tantrum. have you ever heard that phrase before? >> i haven't, actually. i love that phrase. i love that phrase. >> you need to trademark that. >> i'm going to trademark before he does. >> i mentioned tonight you're going to hear a lot from donald trump. he took questions from people in that restaurant on a wide variety of subjects. we're going to play that stuve interview for you in this hour. first, new polling out. for that we go to tom foreman. >> anderson, here interest latests in the latest polling out this evening from cnn and
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wmur. let's look on the republican side first with what is happening with donald trump up here. he is still the clear leader as we might expect. he is up there at 29%. now that is a little bit different from before iowa. if you look before iowa, at 30%. it is a slight decrease. however, almost a 7% margin of error in this poll right now. that could at account for some of that. rubio benefitted from iowa. he is at 18%. before he was just at 11%. and cruz also moved up one sick in all. this not enough, though, to keep from being pushed down a slot by rubio, who is rising rapidly. then kasich 12%. bush 10, christie, fiorina and so forth. people are settling in on whom they absolutely will not vote for. and donald trump also wins that category. 37% of new hampshire republican voters say will not vote for him under any circumstances. cruz, 13%.
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bush, 7%. rubio, 5%. and on down the line. and important to note here, anderson, in our polling, almost 60% of the voters in new hampshire are still not settled exactly on whom they're going to pick. >> yeah, we saw a lot of that in theo's restaurant today. a lot of undecided voters asking questions of trump. we're going to show that to you momentarily. what do the newest numbers tell us about the democratic race? >> interestingly enough, it's exactly the opposite in that about 60% of democrats say they're settled. they know who they're voting for. that's good news for bernie sanders because he is now at 61% in terms of his support. some pair that to where he was before iowa. clinton eked out a tiny, tiny win in iowament look what happened to her numbers. before iowa she was at 34%. she is now down to 30%. and same question whom. will you not vote for. the margin of error 6 1/2% on that. among new hampshire democratic voter, who would you not vote for?
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19% say they will not vote for clinton under any circumstances. that is a slight improvement for her because she was at 20%. and sanders, he has doubled because he was at 4%. now about 8% say they will not vote for him. anderson? >> all right, tom, thanks very much for crunching numbers. going the hear what donald trump thinks about new hampshire. first our experts about the new polling. joining us gloria borger, senior political reporter nia-malika henderson and david gergen. it's interesting these new polls. certainly good news for donald trump, who feels pretty confident here based on what he said to me today. >> yeah, it seems like he should feel pretty confident there is a large margin of error in the polls. it's fluid. we saw that rubio got a bounce. but the important thing for donald trump here in new hampshire is that he didn't tank. he is still doing very well. i was at a cruz event today. and there are lots of people at this event who are saying i'm
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not sure between cruz and trump. there seems to be a lot of indecision between those two. >> david, trump is clearly holding on to his lead. how worried should he be about marco rubio's momentum or even ted cruz for that matter? >> he should be definitely worried about marco rubio. rubio has gone up 7 points from the last poll here in new hampshire. and he's still pretty far behind. but he does have what they -- they're calling marco momentum. if he were to catch trump or even come close, it's going to be a big victory. trump has to win this. but if rube wrote can come close, that's going to be a big, big lift for him. and it could be trouble for trump down the road. >> nia, jeb bush campaigning with his mom barbara bush tonight in southern new hampshire. you're outside that event. i know gloria was as well. we're going the hear from mrs. bush in the next hour. she made a point of saying her
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son isn't a bragger. did people interpret that as a dig at donald trump? >> i think probably. so it's part of her larger compliments her son, she called him the nicest, most loyal person she knows. she said that he is everything that we need in a president. obviously jeb bush has put everything in this race here in new hampshire. his mom is here. that's a sign of how important this race is here. but sure, there is this kind of implicit critique of donald trump. you heard that here at this jeb bush event, but also other events i visited today. chris christie making that same point, this idea of being a big talker versus a doer. those are the critiques i think we're seeing in this establishment lane as they try to vault up. jeb bush not doing so well in the recent poll that we have out from cnn and orc. so he's got some ground to make up in these next days. >> gloria, on the democratic side, a more than 2-1 lead for bernie sanders. there really is this -- kind of an expectations battle game
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being played with the sanders campaign and the clinton campaign. >> right now the expectations are so low for hillary clinton that if she were to lose by less than 20 points, they would claim that it was a victory. >> and they're trying to keep them low. >> totally. she kind of benefits from that. but don't forget, in 2008, she won here in new hampshire. >> she was down what, 18 points? >> right. and she won by three points or so. so it wasn't a huge victory. but it's not as if new hampshire is inhospitable to hillary clinton. it's just like they seem to really like bernie sanders. >> the clinton campaign is also saying bernie sanders is from neighboring vermont. >> right. it's regional. >> bernie sanders, i asked him last night, he said he still considers himself an underdog. >> well, he'll always say he is an underdog. and by the way, he probably is if you look ahead towards south carolina and the rest. right now hillary clinton has a fight on her hands here. she eked out a victory in iowa. if she can come close to bernie sanders here, they will consider that a huge win. >> david, if you were bernie
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sanders, do you try to build up your support in new hampshire over the next few days to basically secure a blockbuster win? or do you try to move some time and resources to south carolina or nevada? >> go for the blockbuster. do it big. because if he can win by 30 points, that would be astonishing, i think in the political world. she needs to get this below 20. i don't think we've ever seen a person go to the white house who got beat in new hampshire by 30 points. and i do think it would cause some damage for her. she should be coming up now. she is campaigning hard there. it is a good state for her. you know so, she needs to close this gap some. and for bernie sanders, if he can pull it out at 30 points, still it's hard for me to believe he can do that. but if he could, that would be a big, big, big victory. >> and nia, the clinton campaign, as i said to gloria, has been trying to manage expectations, saying bernie sanders from vermont. that a good enough excuse, though? it's not like she is some
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unknown candidate here. to gloria's point, she won here in 2008. and certainly her husband has a long history here as well. >> that's right. and that's kind of the counter programming that we're hearing from bernie sanders. a campaign i think what we know about hillary clinton's schedule, she will go to flint, michigan on sunday. leave new hampshire, go to flint, michigan, and try to push for that $600 million funding effort that the democrats have put forward in the senate to address that water crisis there. so that tells you, i think, she is thinking beyond new hampshire. she is thinking about a more diverse, democratic base, particularly in south carolina and even in nevada. she'll return to new hampshire after making that trip to flint, michigan. but i think that tells you she is running on two tracks here. trying to keep her eye in new hampshire and a foot here and not let it get too far away from her. but also look ahead to south carolina and that southern firewall that we've heard so much about. >> yeah, nia-malika henderson, gloria borger. ahead, donald trump, taking
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the message and talking directly to voters. it's actually a fascinating conversation we had with donald trump and that we had with voters and donald trump. talking to new hampshire voters in a restaurant here in new hampshire. up next, why he says losing in iowa is actually a win, and his response to a voter who asked what specifically he'll do about health care. think of it as a seven seat theater... for an action packed thriller. can't afford to let heartburn get in the way? try nexium 24hr, now the #1 selling brand for frequent heartburn. get complete protection with the new leader in frequent heartburn. that's nexium level protection. working on my feet all day gave min my lower back but now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts. now i get immediate relief from my foot pain.
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tonight is a victory for conservatives. >> join me. let's go win the nomination. >> the new hampshire primary, tuesday, all day coverage on cnn. hey, welcome back. we're live tonight in new hampshire. five days from now, people here are going to vote in the first 2016 presidential primary in the nation. and the candidates are not taking the state for granted at all. with 23 republican delegates at stake. and after his loss to ted cruz in iowa, even donald trump is changing his ground game a little. he is still doing the big rallies and stump speeches, but he is also adding to his campaign schedule, getting up close and perm with voters. today at theo's restaurant here in manchester, i sat down with trump, who also took questions from people, some of them supporters, some of them undecided, all of them eager to hear specifics of what he is
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going to do if he is elected president. he began talk his support here in new hampshire. first of all, congratulations. you had a great couple of days since iowa. how does it feel out there? there is a new cnn poll shows you're doing well in new hampshire. how does it feel? >> it feels amazing. i've been to new hampshire so many times. have i so many friends up here, aside from this. they're amazing people. i like it. i feel comfortable. >> in new hampshire, you're doing more smaller events. i think you've had four or five already today. >> yeah. is that a change in strategy? >> i don't think so. i just feel very comfortable here. and i love being here. i've just been embraced. i have people that have nice houses and invite me over to dinner and would anyway whether i was doing this or not. there's a great level of comfort in new hampshire for me. >> in this poll, marco rubio has jumped to second place. do you think he's more of a threat than ted cruz? >> i don't know. it could be somebody out of the
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pack. i'm watching your stuff every night and saying, who is going to be moving. i've been doing well. i guess in the polls we do pretty well. i don't know who is second. i really don't. are you saying that rubio came in second now? >> yes, he did. came in second in this poll. >> it was sort of funny, because in iowa, he was third and i was second. and they said he did fantastically well. and me, they were sort of disappointed. i don't know why they were disappointed because i got the most votes in the history of the iowa caucus, for the republicans. >> huge turnout. >> and we had a huge turnout. it was really a tremendous -- i must say, i really enjoyed iowa. but this is -- there's a different feeling here. this is an amazing feeling with the people, the crowds. you probably saw the crowd this morning. incredible. >> how important is it for you to win here? >> well, i'd love to win because i like to win. my life is about winning. >> i've heard that about you. >> you know, your definition of win. when you come in second out of
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11 people, actually 17. we started out with 17 and many dropped out. let's say you're second out of 17, i would consider that good. but, no, i would love to be number one in new hampshire. it would send a great signal and my whole thing is make america great again. that's what i want to do. i want to make america great. so many things we can do to take back our country because we're losing our country. we're doing deals that are so ridiculous. the deal with iran. we're handing over $150 billion. we get nothing. it's not like we get. we get nothing. so many horrible things are taking place. if you look at trade with china, we're going to make for them this year $500 billion. we can't do it. we can't afford this. mexico, japan, vietnam, that's another one coming on very strong. they're coming on so strong. vietnam, you don't believe what's going on there. they're taking our jobs, money, they're caking our base, they're taking everything from us.
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and it's not going to happen if i get elected president. it's not going to happen. >> you came in second in iowa to ted cruz. let's talk about cruz. you've basically accused him of fraud, of stealing the election in iowa. you talked about wanting a new election there. have you spoken to republican party officials about that? >> no, look. i'm into new hampshire now. it's one of those things, a lot of strange things. i like ben carson very much. and he got pretty roughed up, frankly, although it affected me maybe more than ben. but i'm so much, because i've been here now for two days, i'm so much into this, into new hampshire that i just don't care about that. >> you think ted cruz intentionally was spreading false information? >> i don't care. i don't want to even say. i guess let's see what happens. who cares. he picked up a lot of delegates. we're second. i picked up one less than he did. that's not going to be a factor. but this is the place that i'm focused. >> are you going to be focussing on rubio in speeches? >> i may. i may. i don't think so much.
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i think the people have to make up their mind. i'm going to do things that nobody else can do because i'm really good at trade. i built an unbelievable company. you saw that. everybody went down there and looked. they never saw my numbers before. my company that i built very little debt, tremendous cash flow, some of the greatest assets of the world. i say that not in a braggadocios way. that's the kind of thinking we need in this country. we have $19 trillion in debt. nobody even knows what trillion means. $19 trillion in debt. now with this horrible deal they just negotiated with the budget two weeks ago, that's going to add another $2 trillion in debt. we need somebody that has this kind of thinking i have. whether we like that thinking or don't like that thinking, it's really good for what we're talking about. >> one more on ted cruz. he did say that you had a trumpertantrum. had you ever heard that phrase before? >> i haven't actually. i love that phrase. that's great. i love that phrase. >> you can trademark that phrase. >> i actually like that. i may have to. that's good. i'm going to trademark that before he does. we need a strong tone nowadays.
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when you talk about tantrums. i don't have tantrums. you can't build great businesses and great relationships i have with tantrums. but i will say this. we need somebody with a strong tone. i remember on the same day hillary and jeb bush, jeb spent like $100 million and he's nowhere. and he likes common core and he is weak on immigration. i mean, where is he coming from? and hillary, the same day, they said donald trump's tone. my tone is tough. and i said they're chopping off heads of christians in the middle east. all over the middle east. isis. they're doing all sorts of things that haven't happened and it doesn't seem to me like since medieval times. i used to read medieval times they chopped off heads. i haven't seen that. and then you look at what's happening in this world. how mean, how vicious it's become. and i have these people saying donald trump's tone is tough. the problem we have is everybody is so politically correct that our country is going to hell. so we're going to turn it around and hopefully we're going to do a great job.
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by the way, i know we're going to do a great job. it's so easy. we're going to have the greatest business people. carl icahn endorsed me the other day. all the great business leaders. we're going to lose a lot of companies. pfizer is leaving. others are leaving, corporate inversions. they can't get their money back into the country because of stupidity. everybody agrees they should get it back. democrats and republicans, they can't take it back. they're leaving the country. we're losing some of our greatest companies. they're leaving. pfizer is going to ireland. but they're going to europe, they're going to asia. i will stop that in two seconds. >> i want to have you meet some of the voters. >> great. >> some are supporters of you. some of them are undecided at this point. i want you to meet brian tilton. he is standing over there. he says he's leaning towards you. >> oh, brian, you have to have dinner with me. >> brian, what is your question? >> hi. since obamacare passed, i've lost my health insurance three times. >> many people have. >> my out-of-pocket expenses are sky high. i'm maxed out this year because i had surgery a couple months ago.
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and i don't have my doctor anymore because of obamacare. i have heard you say you want to repeal and replace obamacare. what are you going to replace it with? >> okay, first of all, have i been so against obamacare from the beginning, as you know. repeal and replace. i was totally opposed to it. they did the $5 billion website. $5 billion website that didn't work. i have websites all over the place that cost 15 cents if you have the right person doing them, right? we're going to have great health insurance. we're going to bring the private sector in. we're going to get rid of the borders. you know, i am the only self-funder in this whole race on democrat or republican. the only self-funder, anderson. i'm putting up my own money. when i come up here, it's costing me. it's not costing the public. it's not -- worse than the public, it's the insurance companies are putting up money for all of these people. the oil companies are putting up money. the drug companies are putting up money. and i'll tell you one quick story about that in a second. we're going to take down the borders because i have a lot of --
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>> specifically for health care. >> for health care because what happens is the health care companies, the insurance companies are putting up -- they put up tremendous money for obama and other people running for office. they have total control. when i bid out my insurance, i have big businesses in many different states. in florida, in new york, all over the place in california. when i bid out my stuff, i don't get any bids. because if i want to have somebody from, let's say new hampshire bid, a company, a good insurance company bid for my new york business, they can't do it. they just can't do it because we have these artificial, i call them borders. our borders should be so strong, our southern border should be as strong as our borders for -- what that does is it gives monopolies to these insurance companies inside of various states. when you take that down, you will have so much competition. you'll have phenomenal health care, and the reason they have the borders, because the insurance company would rather have a monopoly in one state than have bidders all over the place, even if they could go
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into -- >> would someone like brian save money on insurance? >> he'd save money and tailor it and get exactly what you want. there are things in health care you're never going to use and they make you buy them. so obamacare is a disaster. premiums have gone up in obamacare 25%, 35% and 45%. some even over 50%. just like you, people have been forced. they've lost everything because of health care. obamacare is a disaster. and we're going to repeal it and replace it with something great. and we have lots of alternatives. the problem that this country has had, until me, is that the presidents and all of the people that are doing this are all taken care of by the insurance companies. me, i don't care. i'm a free agent. they didn't give me ten cents. by the way, they would. i will say this. i am self-funded. i don't know that it's appreciated. >> i was going to ask you about that. because you've said in the past, even the last couple of days you don't think you're getting credit for that. >> only in the last couple of days. i put up tremendous amount of money.
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i'm spending a lot of money on the campaign and i don't think it's appreciated. people have to understand. the reason obamacare is so bad is because the insurance companies have taken care of the politicians. these politicians are the worst. all talk, no action. i am self-funding my campaign. i'm putting up my money. >> you said you'd keep doing that, but it's not worth it. >> what i'm saying is i don't think the voters give me any credit for it. i may be wrong. when people, even in this room and we have great people in this room, when they go to vote, i don't think they are saying, trump is the only one out of now -- it started off 21, if you add both together. out of 21 people, i'm the only one that's putting up my own money. and it's a lot of money. now i'm an efficient person so i've spent a tiny fraction of what a guy like bush spends. >> getting a lot of free media coverage. >> i was supposed to be up to $45 million as of today or tomorrow. that was my budget. i've spent a small fraction of that. that's also good management. that's what we need in the country. i'm number one in the polls. bush is almost down at the bottom. he spent over $100 million and i've spent peanuts. with that being said, i'm going
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to spend a lot of money. you know why? number one, i don't want to take a chance so we're taking commercials. and good commercials. and number two, i feel guilty not spending a little money. i actually feel a little bit guilty about it, if you want to know the truth. but isn't it nice? wouldn't it be nice so if i spent about the least money and i'm number one in the polls whereas other people have spent tremendous amounts of money and they're nowhere. wouldn't it be nice if we could do that for our country? >> up next, more on my conversation with donald trump and a group of new hampshire voters. he says he's all about winning. and great deals. he talks about those things a lot. so i asked him whether he thinks compromise is actually a dirty word. his answer when we continue. s. when i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. you start to see documents and you see signatures of people that you've never met. i mean, you don't know these people, but you feel like you do. you get connected to them. i wish that i could get into a time machine and go back 100 years, 200 years and just meet these people.
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more of my interview with donald trump up close and personal. today he took questions from voters at theo's restaurant in manchester, new hampshire. even made a quip about having dinner with one voter who was leaning toward voting for him but not 100% sure. it became a rung joke. it was a casual atmosphere in the restaurant but some of the voters' questions tackled the big issues. whether trump answered those question, you can decide for yourself. take a look. >> you talk about taking brian to dinner. maybe you'll take him to dinner at timothy's restaurant. this is timothy baines.
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he is a restaurant owner. he said he is still undecided. you can convince him as well. >> hi, mr. trump. i own a small restaurant here and interact with young people. on a daily basis. it's clear they don't trust washington. >> i don't either. less than anybody, maybe. >> it's a polarized environment. i feel like a lot of that is because of our most recent two presidents. what tools will you bring to the table to be able to work with people on both sides of the aisle? >> it's a great question. you know, in manhattan, i built a tremendous company. and somebody was mentioning today, i built a city on the west side of manhattan. you know it very well, trump place. it goes from 72nd to 59th street. i had to get zoning. this might sound simple. this was -- anderson would understand. people in manhattan -- >> not an easy thing to do. >> i was told that it was impossible. in fact, i bought the land very inexpensively because people said it was impossible to ever get it done. i got it zoned for 6,000, almost 6,000-unit job with tremendous shopping, with tremendous parking, thousands and thousands of spaces.
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i get it zoned for one of the great jobs, and it's been a tremendous success. they did a great job. to get that zoned and taken care of you can negotiate anything. one other thing i say. i just got the old post office recently on pennsylvania avenue. i'm building a hotel. every major company in the country wanted that hotel company, and i got that. who did i get it from? the obama administration. if you think about it. i had a great plan, a great balance sheet. i got it from obama. we can solve problems if -- >> politically, though, you are polarizing but you're saying once you get to washington you can get things done? >> i get along with people. ronald reagan and tip o'neill -- were very opposite. they get along. they had a great relationship. they really liked each other. >> is compromise a dirty word? >> compromise is not a dirty word, but we have to get a much better part of the compromise. it's not dirty. we have people that will never be able to make deals. somebody heard, oh, he'll make deals. i'm going to make good deals. i make billions and billions of dollars by making good deals. >> this are some conservatives
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that you'll make deals to much, you'll compromise too much on conservative principles. >> i make deals. i make great deals. i own some of the greatest assets of the world. people wanted them. >> is it more important to get a deal or stand on a principle. >> you have to -- both. honestly, you have to get the deal done but only if it's right. for instance, on the iran deal, i would have never started negotiating that deal unless they let our prisoners go first. i would have gone in and said, fellows, you have to let our prisoners go. i would have walked. i would have doubled up the sanctioned. within 24 hours they would have let the prisoners go. then i would have gone in. then i would have said a second bite. listen. we're a busted country. we have no money. we owe $19 trillion. my father always said take the lumps out. he used to say son, take the lumps out. >> what does that mean? >> that means make it a little nicer. normally i go and say, we're not giving you the $150 billion. instead i'd say, fellas, we owe $19 trillion. we're a country that has no money. we can't give you the 150. they'll say but we want it.
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we can't give it. we don't visit. we don't visit. that's called taking the lumps out. okay. they will go crazy. it will break up. two days later, they'll call back and we'll make a deal and we keep the $150 billion. and by the way, what have they done? he is starting to like me. i'm liking this guy. i think i got him. i think i'll have them both. but you know what? what have we done with the 150? what have they done? they bought 118 airbus planes. not boeing planes. they're spending all of their money in europe. they're giving russia big chunks of money for missiles. i didn't know they were allowed to buy missiles. why are they allowed to buy missiles? it's so unfair and so incompetent. >> that was just the beginning. donald trump fielded a question in that restaurant today, including one from a father who said he is not sure that mr. trump would be a good role model for his daughters if he is elected president. see how trump answered that in a moment. fall short in getting key nutrients ... ...from food alone. let's do more. add one a day men's ... ...complete multivitamin. with vitamin d and magnesium to help support healthy blood pressure.
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back now with part three of my conversation with donald trump. i sat down with him in a room full of voter, some of them undecided in a restaurant here in manchester. not a stretch to say that votes can be won or lost in a diner. far more intimate than a rally. the candidates are up close, close enough to see every expression, every inflection. some of the people who joined us at theos had tough questions including a man who thought trump might not be a good role model for his daughters. i want you to meet joe from hudson. he has a few top contenders. still undecided. >> hi. >> have you liking him better, at least? >> sure. only because i get to stand here. thank you so much for being here. >> okay. >> have i three wonderful daughters at home. >> good. >> i want nothing more for them than to look at their president as a role model. throughout the course of this campaign, you've said some disparaging comments about women, about people from other countries, other religions and
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about everybody who has disagreed with you. explain to me how i can look at my daughters and have them look up to a president trump as a role model. >> well, first of all, who asked you to give this question? did anderson? >> no. >> this is a cnn -- by the way, this is a cnn setup, but that's okay. >> it's not. >> nobody has more respect for women -- >> just for the record, we did not tell anybody any questions. >> nobody has more respect for women than i do. 30 years ago, i had a woman building a major, major construction job in new york city, and that never happens. that just didn't happen. i have so many women executives. in fact, your people actually came over and checked and couldn't believe. i have so many women executives. i've been great to women, and women have been great to me. they've done a great job. i do bring up things that are -- things that people don't want to bring up. i talk about immigration stronger than anybody else. i talk about building a wall. if you look at new hampshire, you have a tremendous heroin problem. it's coming from the border. people are driving trucks over the border loaded with cocaine
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loaded up with heroin, loaded up with all sorts of drugs, and they're taking the money back. so we get the drugs. especially in new hampshire, you know, it's amazing. this area for some reason, has a tremendous drug problem. and one of the first questions i get in new hampshire is the drug problem. i'm stopping that. and these politicians can't stop it. they don't know. look, it's a different deal. they don't know. by the time their lobbyists and all these people are giving them money get to them, they're not going to even if they do know what's right, they're not going to do it. i'm going to straighten out things. when i brought up the muslim problem, you know, it's very interesting. you know, i brought that problem up, and all of the sudden the world started going wild, and now the world is agreeing with me. we have to do something. there is a serious problem. we don't have to discuss it, and we can be politically correct. let's pretend like our president where he refuses to say radical islamic terrorism. >> is it really a muslim problem or a radical islamist problem? >> maybe it's a muslim problem,
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maybe it's not. i have many muslim friends. some of them, not all of them, some of them call me and said donald, you have done us a great service. there's tremendous hatred. at least you are starting a dialogue. we have a president that doesn't want to mention the term. >> i want to introduce patricia cooper. she is a trump supporter. >> thank you. one of the things that i did yesterday was to look up your platform. >> right. >> i'm very excited about a lot of things that you say. i love your ideas. we need all these changes, but sometimes when i read them, it's a statement but it's not really saying how are you going to do. there's so many things to do. how are you going to do them? how you going to get in -- you know, you're in this your position and all of the sudden, i'm to the economics. i've got to worry about isis. i've got to do this. >> the president is going to have a lot of things. we have to be high energy. we cannot be a low energy individual and do this job right. we have to be very high energy. it's a great question. i have a lot of policy papers out.
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in the end, anderson, like you have 14 steps. the press wants it more than the people. you have 14 steps. let's say taxes. step one, we're going to do this. step two, we'll do this. we have to negotiate. i am specific. here is what happens. step one, we'll go and see these groups. step two. what's going to happen is in step two, three, four, five, the people on the other side in terms of congress, et cetera, they'll be negotiating with us. now all of the 14 steps are just wasted. we may make a better deal. in other words, they may take us to a place where the deal ends up being better. that's what i do. i like to be unpredictable. i hate it when i see these people from the administration going on television, including your shows saying exactly what we're going to do in war to knock out isis or whoever we're competing against. we have to be unpredictable. >> we'll have more of the conversation with donald trump ahead. we switched gears and got personal. mr. trump opened up about the brother he lost to alcoholism
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we've shown you how donald trump answered questions from a diner in new hampshire here today. they asked him about health care, the economy and gridlock in washington. before we ended the interview, we switched gears and got more personal. how do you relax? obviously you play golf. how do you decompress. you don't sleep much, i understand. >> not too much. i thought -- i'm relaxing now. isn't it a crazy thing? i feel that i'm a worker. i have to work hard. i love to work. if i were president, i would be in the white house a lot. i wouldn't be taking trips all over the place for whatever reason.
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why would you leave the white house? you know, it's interesting. you're there for a limited period of time, okay? you're not going to be there forever. why would you ever -- i would be is there so much, but i'd be working. i'm a worker. i would be working. when i go on a vacation, i once went on a vacation where they had no phones. i was out of there in one day. we've got to work. we've got to work. we need a working president. >> you and i have something in common. we both lost our older brothers. you lost your older brother in 1981, i believe. i did in 1988. what impact did that have on your life? >> it had a great impact. he was a great guy. he was the most handsome guy. he had the best personality. he was the life of the party. >> an airline pilot. >> he was a great pilot. he was very talented. other pilots would come to the house and say he was the most talented. a great guy. but he got hooked on alcohol. i told his family, you know, his legacy is great. because what i'm doing, so many talk about it, he got hooked on alcohol, just hooked.
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and ultimately it just was devastating. that's why i don't drink. i don't drink. i don't smoke cigarettes, i don't take drugs. those are the three good things. i won't tell you the bad things. my brother fred was a great guy. he had everything. i mean, the most handsome guy. and then he got hooked and there was nothing, and by the way, nothing you could do about it. i've seen strong people, really strong people, but really strong, tough people. they can't shake the habit. the way to shake the habit is not to start. my brother used to say, and he knew he had a problem, he used to say to me, no drinking, no drugs and no alcohol. actually, he would leave the drugs out. i say to my kids, i've always said from the time, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no drugs. with my brother it was a long time ago. the drugs weren't the big thing. i don't think. the drugs weren't a big factor. he always used to say no alcohol, no cigarettes. he said the cigarettes because look, it's better if you don't smoke. i have friends who can't quit smoking. i'd never want a cigarette. once you start, i'd probably want a cigarette.
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i probably wouldn't be here talking to you today if we didn't -- if i didn't have my brother fred because he kept me off alcohol. maybe with my kind of a personality i'd be a serious alcoholic. i just don't know. i've never had a glass of alcohol only because my brother said don't you dare. he was a tough guy in his own way. don't you dare ever drink. because he knew he had a problem. and he passed on to me unbelievable information. >> finally, we've seen your wife on the campaign trail. you talk about strong people. she's a strong woman. >> very strong. >> when was the moment you knew she was the one for you? >> you know, almost when i saw her. it was really amazing. she was a very, very successful model. and she's a very smart woman, as you know. she also loves your show, but these are minor details. she loves this show. she likes him. but very smart, strong person. and i was at a party, and i was a single person at a party, and she was standing, and there were
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three or four supermodels. and they said oh, look who is here? supermodel, supermodel. i said forget about them. i like that one. who is that one? it was sort of a weird deal. i tried to get her number. she wouldn't give it to me. of course, the smartest thing she ever did. right? after that happened i was -- she's been amazing. >> the heart wants what it can't have. >> that's called smart. no, she highways been amazing. and she's as beautiful inside as she is outside, and if this ever happens, i know one thing, she'll be an unbelievable representative for our country and a great first lady. >> mr. trump, thank you very much. [ applause ] we're going to get some thoughts from our panel. back with me is cnn chief political analyst gloria borger, amanda carpenter, former communications doppler radar for senator ted cruz, and a rubio supporter and syndicated columnist. it's interesting to see, gloria, trump in these more personal settings taking questions directly. it's not something we've seen him do much of.
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he's doing a lot more of it in new hampshire. >> new hampshire is a different planet from iowa. it's a different ecosystem. and i think what the voters of new hampshire demand is what donald trump is trying to give them now because he understands that he needs to go retail. that an air war that seemed to be working for him in iowa to a great degree wouldn't work here in the small towns of new hampshire, here in manchester. and so i think he understands that he has to get personal with voters. and i think just hearing him talk about his brother's alcohol addiction, talk more about his wife. it takes some of the edge off of donald trump. it's not that he doesn't behave with that edge back out on the campaign trail, but i think the voters here in new hampshire want to hear more of that from all of these candidates. >> it was interesting. a man i talked to, i had known some of the people in the diner before. some of them still undecided. some of them really like seeing
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donald trump up close like that. a lot of them also said, or a number of them said he didn't give more specifics. i still want to hear more specifics on what's he going to replace obamacare with. things like that. when candidates do a lot of these town halls, they do have to end up getting into the details. >> yeah, without a doubt this was a kinder, softer donald trump. and it seems like the conclusion he's taken away from iowa is the negative campaigning didn't work. the two biggest things, he declined to pursue the allegations he made against ted cruz, and he also declined to attack marco rubio, which is remarkable. but that said, even though he has a kinder, gentler approach in new hampshire, they expect details. these are people that take the process very seriously. the cnn poll showed nearly one-third of them are undecided. and just unveiling a new personality for however long it lasts isn't going to be enough to sway over those voters. they want to hear policy ideas and get down and dirty and not just hear the life story that everyone already kind of knows
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about. >> at this point for trump, considering he has the lead here, do you think it's more about not rocking the boat and trying to get across the finish line tuesday? because up until now, he has always tended to go, again, for the big headline. that's what's a lot of his supporters have liked about him. >> right. so for the last, what, six hours he's not been going for the big headline? i wouldn't expect that to continue but the questions from the people in the diner were really terrific. i was quite impressed. anderson, you did a great job, of course. but that's your job. the actual people who stood up, like for example, the woman who said she was a trump supporter, but she said i looked at your website and i have looked for specifics about what you would replace obamacare with, and i found it was a little vague. and his answer was quite vague. he gave another one of his sort of a.d.d. answers where he was sort of everywhere all over the map and he brings in isis and he brings in immigration and the
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border. and it's all so scatter shot that it was really his answer was as much proof of what that questioner was wondering about as anything else. didn't reassure her, it seemed. rather, it confirmed what she was suspecting. >> well, i think, to mona's point, that's one of the interesting things about these town hall formats. look, from my perspective, it's less aggressive an encounter than a traditional one-on-one interview, because you're really wanting to kind of show a more personal side, trying to get a different side. but it does really reveal just in the answers whether or not the person can get into specifics. >> that's why people come out of new hampshire better candidates, better presidential candidates. >> because new hampshire audiences are incredibly well informed and incredibly specific. >> right. and they understand the kind of access that they have that nobody else has. so they demand a certain amount of accountability. and i think what mona is talking about is what donald trump has to get better at because these
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questions if he continues to do these kind of formats, and i see he's added an event tomorrow. if he continues to do more of this retail politics, he is going to have to sharpen his answers because they'll go right from a trump event to a cruz event. and cruz, for example is very polished. does have detailed answers as does rubio and most of the rest of these candidates. >> thanks to everyone. we'll get more of your thoughts on that trump interview in the next half hour. a lot of other campaign events going to in new hampshire to tell you about, including a town hall with jeb bush. he brought a not so secret weapon, his 90-year-old mother barbara bush. that and much more when we continue. want to get their hands on. if they could ever catch you.
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welcome. we're live in manchester, new hampshire, five days from the first primary of this election. a new cnn/wmur tracking poll shows donald trump in the lead among likely republican voter here is in new hampshire. not letting up in the momentum, even adding extra event, including a discussion with me at a restaurant today where voters got a chance to directly ask him questions. that was more of an intimate setting. he's also doing the big events here, including a big event in
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portsmouth this evening, including a speech that is, shall we say more bleep worth they than others. >> we're going to start winning. we're going to win on trade with these are the countries that's are ripping us off. we're going to win on health care. we're going to win with the military. we're going to knock the [ bleep ] out of isis. going to knock the [ bleep ] out of them. we're going to win on health care. we're going to win on every aspect. everything we do. we're going to have so many victories. we just can't fail anymore. we don't have the option to fail anymore. we have a country that's a debtor nation and we don't have the option. so i just want to tell you, this is an important evening. this is a great group. i've done five of these today in different forms. do you thinking this is fun? do you think this is fun? i have done -- i've had more meetings today. i've had great meetings. i met with your police department.
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you like them, right? i met with police. i met with -- by the way, the police do such a great job. you talk -- [ cheers ] and we have to honor our police. okay. so it's very important. february 9th, you have to get out and vote. don't think we're going to win. don't think we're going to win, just go out. you have to get out and vote. no matters where you are, how you feel. i don't give a damn. you have to go out and get out of bed and vote. we have to create a mandate. we have to create a victory. >> you may remember after he lost to ted cruz in iowa trump said there should be a redo because the cruz campaign gave voters false information that carson dropped out. today trump told me he doesn't care than anymore. he is all about new hampshire, and he has the schedule to back that up. cnn's political reporter sara murray reports.
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>> reporter: donald trump is kicking his campaign up a notch. >> i have your vote, right? do i have people's votes in here? >> reporter: unwilling to let another victory slip from his grasp. >> i'm actually starting to spend good money. and the reason is number one, i don't want to take a chance. okay? number two, i don't want to blow it. >> reporter: on top of spending on the air waves, trump doubled his schedule from two events to four. >> got to do it. it's called crunch time. right? >> reporter: with just five days until new hampshire, trump's campaign schedule is still relatively light. including today. trump has just six events planned before the primary. after losing iowa, trump loathe to admit mistakes, acknowledged he could have built a more solid ground operation. >> in retrospect, we could have done much better with the ground game. >> in the days since, he's made a point of stopping by his campaign offices to rally the troops. >> i'm going to stay here for a while. >> one thing he's not doing, downplaying expectations. making it clear he's playing to win in new hampshire. >> i like to win. i've been here a lot.
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great relationships with the people of new hampshire. i love them. >> reporter: a new cnn/wmur poll shows for now trump is well positioned. he leads in new hampshire with 29% support from republican primary voters. compared to 18% for marco rubio who has moved into second. meanwhile, ted cruz at 13% is nearly tied for third with john kasich at 12%. trump's position on top has cruz, the iowa victor, sharpening his knives. >> donald trump is very rattled right now. he told the entire world he was going to win iowa. and then he didn't win. >> reporter: and accusing trump of being a sore loser after iowa. >> you could call it a trumpertantrum. >> reporter: and after jimmy carter suggested he'd prefer a president trump over cruz. the texas senator turned that around on trump as well. >> jimmy carter said the reason is simple.
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donald's views -- this is almost a quote. not quite a quote, but almost. donald's views are malleable. he has no core beliefs on anything. >> reporter: but trump's vowing to new hampshire voters, one way or another, he's ending up on pennsylvania avenue. >> seriously, who would want to leave the white house? although i'm building a hotel right next door which is also located on pennsylvania. i'll still be on pennsylvania avenue one way or the other. >> sara joins me from portsmouth. how are people reacting to trump's change in tactics, more face time on the ground with new hampshire voters? >> well, it's interesting. it's really only the first day he's ramped up his schedule. i was talking to voters here. the biggest thing they can see trump doing is increasing his visibility in the state and taking the high road. i think that's exactly what we're seeing trump doing. he's added more events for tomorrow. at least one in new hampshire as well as his event he has planned in south carolina.
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and tonight at his event, he did not lay into ted cruz or into marco rubio. it seems like he's taking a mix of this voter feedback. we'll see how long the kinder, friendlier donald trump last, though, anderson. >> sara murray, thanks. as i mentioned earlier, i sat down with trump at restaurant, theo's here in new hampshire. he fielded questions from me and voters, up close and personal. everybody in the restaurant who restaurant who was there, i talked to most of them after. they all said they liked seeing trump even though sometimes he didn't give the specifics they had directly asked him for but they liked seeing him in that kind of format. they really got a sense, a better sense of who he is. take a look. >> you're doing more in new hampshire. smaller events. more events. i think you've had four or five events already today of events like this with kind of people up close, asking you questions. is that a change in strategy? if so, why?
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>> i don't think so. i just feel very comfortable up here and i love being here. i've just been embraced. i have friends that have nice houses and they invite me to din er whether i was doing this or not. there's a great level of comfort for me. >> in this poll, marco rubio has also now jumped to second place. do you think he's more of a threat than ted cruz? >> i don't know. it could be somebody out of the pack. i'm watching your stuff every night and saying, who is going to be moving? i've been doing well. i guess in the polls we do pretty well. i don't know who is second. i really don't. are you saying that rubio came in second now? >> yes, he did. came in second in this poll. >> it was sort of funny because in iowa, he was third and i was second. and they said he did fantastically well. and me, they were sort of disappointed. i don't know why they were disappointed because i got the most votes in the history of the iowa caucus, for the republicans. and we had a huge turnout. it was really a tremendous -- i mean, i must say, i really enjoyed iowa. but this is -- there's a
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different feeling here. this is an amazing feeling with the people, the crowds. you probably saw the crowd this morning. it was incredible. >> how important is it for you to win here? >> i'd love to win because i like to win. my life is about winning. i don't like to lose. >> i've heard that about you. >> you know, your definition of win. when you come in second out of 11. actually 17 because we started with 17. many dropped out. let's say you're second out of 17. i mean, i would consider that good. but, no, i would love to be number one in new hampshire. i think it would send a great signal. >> let's talk about all this with cnn senior political analyst gloria borger, syndicated columnist mona charon who supports marco rubio. former reagan white house director jeffrey lord who supports donald trump. the fact that he is doing more retail politics, certainly is probably a lesson learned from
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iowa. he doesn't say it's directly released but it's hard to believe it's not. >> oh, sure. this is a guy who is trying to close the deal. and he knows to close the deal here, he's got to do more of this retail politics. i was kind of surprised at one of his rallies today, though, that you just showed on the air. he said you think this is fun? when you are a candidate, it's a good idea to let the voters believe that you are actually enjoying yourself when you interact. >> which is at odds with what he said which is that he's enjoying it. >> it's surprising to me. he was sort of saying this is hard work. i met with the police guys. that's what's running for president is actually about. >> mona, it was interesting when i asked donald trump today if he was going to go after marco rubio, who you support in new hampshire, he didn't really go down that road. why wouldn't trump try to slow rubio down? could that be a strategic mistake? is it trying to take a high road and not seem so, i don't know what the word would be, taking on some of his --
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competitors? >> right. so the concept of donald trump going down the high road is an interesting one. it's certainly a road that he's unfamiliar with. you know, this is the candidate who said i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone and i wouldn't lose any votes. arguably, he did lose some votes after saying that's. and so you do not know. his approach is so stream of consciousness. it's not to say he's not calculating as well. but you have a sense that spontaneously, he does let loose on people all the time. today he may have been restrained regarding his competitors. but i would be very surprised if that lasts for more than 12 hours. >> jeffrey, trump told me he wants to move on. from the dust-up over ted cruz results in iowa. didn't really want to talk about it. does that tell you something that the trump campaign feels people have moved on? >> oh, yeah.
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i mean, i think it's never wise to look back. you learn from whatever experiences and you always look forward. he's a forward looking guy. the donald trump you talked to there and you certainly know him, and i know him, that's the donald trump that i have gotten to know. he is very smart. he's funny. he's charming. he -- when he talks about deal making, he talks about it in context of dealing with principles. that's the donald trump that i have gotten to know and like and i think it was very clear in there in watching that interview, the body language, i could see people behind him nodding their head as he spoke. >> this whole concept, though, of deal making being the essence of the presidency is completely misconceived. for example, his critique earlier this evening at the diner about the iran deal, he was saying the reason it was a bad deal is because we didn't get our hostages back. that is only the very, very smallest bad aspect of the deal. what he didn't say and what a more experienced and more
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thorough and deep thinking candidate would have said, what's a cruz would say or what a rubio does say is that this is the greatest sponsor of terror in the world. this is the nation that is a nightmare to get a nuclear weapon under any circumstances. and it was so much more than simply that we didn't get our hostages back. >> but making -- >> what -- >> but making deals, as we all know -- making deals is the essence of the presidency. ronald reagan made them all the time. >> no it isn't. >> he most certainly did, mona. what do you think the arms arrangements with gorbachev are? he walked away from the table -- >> one at a time. and then i want to go to amanda. >> reagan's signal accomplishment was to walk away from tay bad deal. so that's the first thing.
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at reykjavik, he walked away. rather than make a bad deal. >> to get a deal. >> so we agree on that. but trump's concept, this businessman idea that the presidency is all about making deals is completely wrong. the presidency is about leadership. it's about implementing the right policies. it is about cooperating with congress. but the notion that's he's going to be sitting across the table from those -- >> -- those treacherous chinese and mexicans and taiwanese and others and canadians who are supposedly taking us to the cleaners all the time. the notion that that's the essence of the presidency is a very absurd position for a candidate. >> let me bring in amanda. amanda, let me bring you in. i talked to trump and we'll play more of this tomorrow. i don't think we've played that bit tonight, but about how he would change once he is in office. and i did ask him, which we played in the last hour, whether he thought compromise was a dirty word.
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which he said he didn't. i asked him whether or not there is concern among some conservatives that he doesn't stand on principles enough. that he's too willing, perhaps, to compromise to get a deal. that's certainly something i think ted cruz has probably hammer, hit him on. and i'm wondering how effective a weapon that is by cruz against trump. how powerful that knock against trump is among conservatives. >> very effective. we've seen an ad come out demonstrating that's been effective. more broadly to the point of the interview and thrust of these questions. the new personality he's unveiling now in hopes of doing better in new hampshire get to the fundamental problem of donald trump. you never know who you're going to get. is he going to be nice guy? is he going to be this guy that yells and screams at you? you never know. we don't know where he is on policy positions. we don't know where he is on temperment. this new donald trump we're seeing should give, while it is welcome, while i like this new positive attitude, it underscores the fundamental problem with his personality.
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>> it's interesting, gloria. again, talking to people in that diner afterwards, they liked seeing this donald trump. >> sure. >> they enjoyed him. they found him personable. they found him -- they said it's so much different than what you see in these big rallies. even those who said he didn't answer the question, he didn't have enough specifics but they genuinely like the person they met. >> right. and eventually they're going to get to the specifics. i have a theory about businessmen who run for president and it sort of applied to mitt romney. and i think it might apply to donald trump. i don't know yet. businessmen want to get the deal done. they want to negotiate, and they come at it from a position of, what do i need to do to get the deal done? what do i need to do in new hampshire to win here? i need to have retail politics. voters in presidential elections want to know what you believe. they don't want to know that you can finally cut a deal. and so politicians who run on
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belief in presidential campaigns, very clear set of beliefs generally do better than businessmen who at the outset say, you know, i know how to negotiate. and i think romney had that problem to a degree, and i think donald trump could end up having that problem. >> jeffrey, you're a supporter of trump. you're a conservative. do you see that as a problem that he has core ideals he'll stand to no matter what even if it means not making a compromise, not making a deal? >> sure. sure. sure. i mean, this is how he built his business. he does have core principles. his business he certainly has core principles. and he negotiates and you get to the end. as i say, this is, to me, at least, obviously not to mona and some of the other folks here, but to me, this is exactly what ronald reagan was. ronald reagan was a labor negotiator. he was a union president. he did exactly the same kind of thing donald trump has been doing in his career and did it the same way.
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he would deal with tip o'neill, he would deal with all these people. sometimes ronald reagan got bad deals. he got a bad deal on the tax. raising, that he listened to bob dole and thought he was going to get one thing and he got another, and he regretted it. so sometimes you can make mistakes. but you do have to make deals. that's what the constitution is all about. you've got the separation of powers and the president and the congress have got to sit down and come to agreement. the question is what direction do you take them in? >> i would say the big question with donald trump is where is his moral compass? we all recognize he was a very successful business leader and knows how to make deals to benefit the bottom line and grow his wealth. when it comes to the bailouts and how that works out for taxpayers or why he changed his position on abortion and the stimulus. i don't know what his guiding principles are when applied to government. he's never fully explained that to his detriment. >> nor does he seem to have the character and temperament for
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the leader of the free world. this is someone who has been really very vulgar and disgusting in his descriptions of women, commenting on their appearance constantly. this is someone who has made fun of a handicapped person, someone who has made really very inappropriate kinds of comments. that is not the kind of temperament that you look for. and if you're worried about policy, as amanda says, you might want to be thinking about the supreme court. the next president is very likely to be able to appoint a number of members of the supreme court, and donald trump has said that he thinks his sister would be a fantastic justice. his sister is the justice who has overturned a ban on partial birth abortion. so that's is -- and is -- so something for voters to think about. >> john roberts would make an excellent chief justice and we got obamacare as a result. >> well, john roberts has been excellent in many respects. that was an outlier.
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how are you feeling about where you are? you're statistically tied in third place. how does it feel out there on the road? >> i think we're actually doing a little better than that, anderson. i think we're really in second place. the reason i know that, there have been millions of ads spent against me. the reason why i feel so good, our message is positive, which is different than everybody else's. that we have a ground game second to none. and by the end of business tomorrow, i will have done 100 town hall meetings. so what is interesting about this is we will see if somebody who can stay positive and present their image or their vision of what we should do as a country can win. and a i think we're going to do very well going out of here. and it will be a new day, a new chapter. and people will study it. >> what's the message you're hammering home here in new hampshire?
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>> together we can solve problems. we're not republicans or democrats, we're americans. the problem of wage growth, income and equality, what do we do about social security security, what do we do about student debt. what i tell people is if we get out of our own way and become americans, and rather thinking about our political party or our corner or who cheers the loudest, we can solve problems. together we can boost the american spirit and be back on firm ground again. i have to tell you, everywhere i go, people very much like this message, anderson. >> it's interesting. you talk about doing 100 town halls. we now see donald trump in these days doing smaller events in new hampshire. obviously something you've been doing for months, spending a lot of time. what do you make of the fact that trump is now campaigning on that scale? >> i've always believed that the town halls work.
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what happens unlike a debate and people can't see who you are, in the town halls, they poke you, they question you. they want to know what you're made of. frankly, in american politics, most people don't compare one tax plan against another. but the issues give people an opportunity to describe who they are. and so the people here really look at you carefully. and they really make an assessment. are you the type of leader that can help this country to climb out of a sort of a dulled spirit in america. and i think that that's the ticket. and that's why i've done, like 100 of them. and, the problem with iowa is it was so big. you couldn't do that. it was lot of advertising. but in new hampshire with 1.3 million people, people very informed, i mean, you get every question you can imagine, anderson. and i love it. and i'm having the time of my life. people are laughing and some are
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crying. and we are providing information. it's been an incredible experience. >> there's obviously a lot of candidates who are right now running behind you. governor christie, jeb bush, looking at you, looking to try to take your place and certainly even do better. governor christie said that, quote, you're not built for these times. what does that mean to you? how do you respond to that? >> i have no idea what he means. i have no clue. it doesn't matter to me. i'm not getting into, you know, i'm not going down a rabbit hole with anybody. i don't understand what that would even mean. >> in terms of moving on from here, where do you feel you need to place? >> well, we're going to go everywhere, anderson. really. we already got people on the ground in nevada. on the ground in south carolina. we're building out in the south in michigan and illinois. anderson, this is not the end of it. we're going to move forward.
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in fact, a couple days ago, i met with my staff to talk about the schedule going south. so we are very optimistic about being able to leave here on a high note. get to the south. compete in all these states and let me just say this. we're going to do well in mississippi and alabama. wait until we get to the midwest. wait until we get to illinois and michigan and ohio and pennsylvania. fasten your seat belt, anderson. >> is there -- there's not a bar you feel you need to reach here in new hampshire in order to be able to continue on, just in terms of fund-raising? >> well, look, we -- our fund-raising is good. we'll have a new ad on tomorrow that i think will be very good. and we are ready. when it comes to fund-raising, we're working on that. going beyond new hampshire. we believe we have the resources we need here but we're also building the resources for the future. in other words, this is a campaign that's built to last. it's always been a campaign that's been underestimated. people didn't think i'd get in. didn't think i'd make the
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debates. they didn't think i'd get to new hampshire. it's all happening because we're like the little engine that can. >> it's always good to talk to you, sir. thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> governor john kasich. just ahead, jeb bush pulled out a secret weapon tonight, his mom, barbara bush. at 90 years old, she's as popular as ever. more on that ahead. soup and sandwich and clean and real, and feeling good, sort of. and 500 calories or less. the clean pairings menu. at panera. food as it should be. type 2 diabetes doesn't care who you are. man woman or where you're from. city
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they said that jeb bush needs a strong showing next tuesday in new hampshire doesn't begin to capture it. he started the race as the presumed front-runner, the establishment favorite. then with ted cruz and marco rubio gaining traction. the new cnn/wmur poll out tonight has mr. bush in fifth
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place at 10%. that's a four-point gain. he's been campaigning heavily in new hampshire. tonight he brought new firepower into the battle, his 90-year-old mother barbara bush who introduced him at a town hall in derry. >> i didn't really plan on this, but jeb is the nicest, wisest, most caring, loyal, disciplined -- [ laughter ] that's good. not by me. but he's not a bragger. we don't allow that. but he's decent and honest. he's everything we need in a president. [ applause ] his dad and i are very, very proud of him. ladies and gentlemen, the next
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president of the united states, jeb bush. >> thank you, mama. thank you all. thank you. you can sit. everybody can sit. thank you all very much. wow. mom, my crowd sizes normally aren't this large. i wonder why. it is such a joy to be with friends. to be with my mother who i adore who is an inspiration. i cannot tell you in the probably 90 versions of town hall meetings i've done all across this state how many times people came up and said your mother -- i love your mother. i love your mother. just over and over again. she's not as great as everybody thinks she is.
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i can just tell you that. i jokingly say that when we were growing up in midland in houston, that mom was fortunate not to have a child abuse hot line available because the discipline of learning right and wrong was her doing. my dad was this perfect idyllic man who to this day is the greatest man alive. but she was the one that taught us right and wrong. i can promise you that. and it's worked out pretty good. all the mistakes i've made have been my own doing. >> cnn's phil mattingly joins us now. phil, we just saw barbara bush speaking at her son's event. how did the crowd react to her being there? >> anderson, if you look behind me, the jeb bush advance staff is wrapping things up.
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if you get a sense of the room, it was standing room only. people waiting outside to get in. not enough parking spots to fill up. jeb bush hinting at what's real here according to staffers i spoke with at this event. there were two to three times the normal crowd here tonight. a lot of nostalgia. i saw a couple of reagan/bush '84 shirts walking around. also a recognition of what barbara bush brings to the table. what the bush family brings to the table up in new hampshire. and i think an urgency shown by the campaign here. you mentioned jeb bush, fifth in the latest cnn/wmur poll but really kind of fluid in that second tier of candidates. the campaign ready to pull out all the stops. one key number they're looking at inside that poll, 60% of likely republican voters in new hampshire are not firmly decided on a single candidate yet. barbara bush helping that final push by the bush campaign to try and sway some voters, hoping for that big breakout moment that they really need if they want their campaign to catch fire
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after new hampshire, anderson. >> and george w. bush made his first appearance in a superpac ad for jeb, right? >> that's right, anderson. we heard this weekend the superpac ad will start running with george w. bush as the voiceover to that ad. and one of the big questions has been is when is george w. bush going to come out on the campaign trail. campaign sources say they'v been playing around with this for a while. coy about when it's going to happen. all the signs are pointing to south carolina. jeb bush needs to take care of business here in new hampshire. but the expectation is george w. bush where he's still very, very popular will likely hit the trail in south carolina. first, jeb bush has to take care of business here. barbara bush giving him that big push this evening, anderson. >> phil mattingly, thanks for your reporting. gloria borger is back with me. you were at that event. >> i was. it was standing room only. >> how much of a boost does barbara bush and george w. bush out on the campaign trail could give you? >> when the dynasty works for you, use it. in new hampshire, the bushes are
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popular. and so barbara bush is very popular. and i think his father could have been here, he probably would have been here, too. i think you use your brother, w., in south carolina. lindsey graham made it clear when he endorsed jeb, i want w. in south carolina. i think you'll see bush 43 there for his brother. and so tonight was all about saying my name is not just jeb, but it's actually jeb bush which is something. >> it's so interesting given early on kind of his confusion over exactly what to say about iraq, what to say about his brother. >> yeah, there was. and i think it's kind of come full circle here because his family has a place in kennebunkport. this is kind of home turf for them. they're popular, well liked. and i think it's comfortable for him here. answering questions about iraq and his brother, not so much.
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and that could hurt in the general. right now he's trying to get through this primary and place in the top three. >> also interesting, barbara bush earlier on said at one point the country had had enough of bushes but, clearly has walked that back. >> she clearly has walked that back. although when she got out there tonight, and the first thing she said about jeb was that he was nice, i thought hmm, that what people are actually looking for in a president right now, somebody who is nice? i'm not so sure. >> george bush sr. ran his first primary campaign way back here. didn't he? >> yeah, yeah. i think the bushes are popular, well known here. and i think, you know, bush wanted -- wants to get big crowds now. he wants to get coverage. and she brought him the coverage he wanted. >> fascinating to see her. i kind of wish i was there. it would have been neat to see. gloria, great to have you. thanks very much.
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new information tonight related to an issue that's hounded hillary clinton on the campaign trail. her use of personal e-mail while serving as secretary of state. some of the information she received only recently been recharacterized as classified. it turns out the same thing has happened to others. that's according to a new report from the state department investigator.
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cnn investigator evan perez joins me now. what are you learning about this new report? >> we're talking about two e-mails that are now deemed classified that former secretary of state colin powell received on his personal e-mail, and ten classified e-mails were received by close aides to condoleezza rice when she was secretary of state. these were uncovered by the state department's internal watchdog which has been reviewing the past e-mail practices of the past five secretaries of state. this began after hillary clinton revealed she set up a private e-mail server. not surprisingly, this has been met aha moment. this has been met as a -- they think this is a revelation that's bolsters what she's been saying all along that she isn't the only official with we should classified information in her private e-mails. but we should point out that powell and rice didn't have their own computer servers to do all of their government work, anderson. >> so have powell or rice responded? >> both have responded, and both are disputing this inspector general's report.
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powell says the two e-mails were messages sent by u.s. ambassadors to his staff. and were passed along to him. and he says he has reviewed these messages. we have a statement from him. he says what he looks at when he looks at these e-mails he doesn't see what makes them classified and certainly not a dozen years later. rice's staff at stanford university where she now teaches says she never used e-mails at all, and that there was no intelligence information in diplomatic messages that were sent to her staff, anderson. >> all right, evan, thanks. let's get the latest on some of the other stories we're following. amara walker has the latest. amara? >> anderson, a judge has denied bail for natalie keepers, a virginia tech student accused of being an accessory to murder in the death of a 13-year-old girl. prosecutors said in court today that keepers and david eisenhauer charged with the murder plotted the attack and how to dispose of the body.
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the victim was a seventh grader nicole lovell. investigators believe she planned to expose an inappropriate relationship with eisenhauer. a military grade of tnt caused this week's explosion on a somali airliner. that's according to a source close -- familiar with the investigation. one person was killed and at least two others injured in the attack. florida's governor has declared a health emergency in five counties due to the zika virus. 12 cases of the mosquito-borne illness have been detected at the state. all 12 travelled to latin america and the caribbean where the virus has been spreading. and bebe, the newest panda at the smithsonian's national zoo ventured outside for the first time today with his mom. it looks like the 5-month-old cub had a great time. anderson? >> amara, thanks. just ahead, a voter in new hampshire who has pretty much seen it all in politics. she's over 100 years old. we'll hear her thoughts on this year's election and her favorite president ever. across america, people like basketball hall of famer
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pundits and politicians alike say this is a campaign season like no other. if age brings wisdom, she is wiser than all of us. gary tuchman joins me now. how did you hear about this woman's story? >> i have a couple of very nice people here in new hampshire come up to me and say if you want to hear some wisdom about politics over the last century, you need to meet and talk to mini. so today is the day we met and talked to mimi. there is nobody in the state of new hampshire who has been around for more new hampshire primaries than clorina. she is believed to be the oldest person in the stay.
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clorina, whose nickname is mimi, is 100 years old. >> is it's nice to meet you. >> thank you, thank you. >> mimi was one of 16 children. she moved from new hampshire to quebec when she was a child there. >> you go. good job. >> reporter: today mimi, who speaks english and french, lives in a nursing home and is regularly visited by three generations. politics was an important topic of discussion in her family as she was growing up. she can't hear well so, we wrote some questions to her. starting with who was her favorite american president. >> just now? >> your whole life. >> president roosevelt. >> reporter: president roosevelt was your favorite president? teddy roosevelt or franklin roosevelt? because you were born when teddy roosevelt was the president. >> i like both. >> you like both? >> teddy and franklin. >> reporter: mimi had one child, ruth, who is now 81. >> yeah, i'm still her baby. >> reporter: this is ruth with mimi back in the day. ruth is now married with two children of her own.
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she says her father, mimi's late husband, insisted everyone vote for democrats. your mother, as far as you know always voted for the democratic candidate? >> oh, yes. she always did. >> every election, from 1928 on the democrat? >> yes. >> reporter: mimi voted for democrat al smith that year. republican herbert hoover won. >> reporter: are there any presidents you did not like? >> no, i like the president, almost all the president. >> you like almost all the presidents? >> yeah. >> reporter: but who does she like now in 2016? as we expected, she said it would be a democrat. hillary clinton or bernie sanders? >> i didn't know this man. >> reporter: you don't know bernie sanders? okay. >> well, i'm going to take hillary clinton. i know her. >> reporter: you know hillary clinton. so she is your woman. but you don't know bernie sanders. >> that's all i know. >> reporter: okay.
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i'm not going to argue with you, mimi. i'm not going to argue with you. mimi has had her share of medical issues. when she was 101, she broke her hip while visiting her 103-year-old brother in a different nursing home. he has since passed away. her medical condition has made it hard to vote in elections, and she doesn't do absentee ballots. but she will be interested to see who wins on tuesday. before we said goodbye, we asked mimi about the secret to a long life. she said it has to do with food. >> when i'm hungry, i eat the best i can. yeah. that's all. >> reporter: that's all? and then she went off for a delicious lunch. the most senior of senior citizens in new hampshire. >> does her family also support hillary clinton? >> well, that's what is interesting. the answer is no. her daughter and her son-in-law, they say they are supporting carly fiorina. and her grandson and granddaughter, who were there with us, they both support
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a recapping the latest cnn/wmur poll that came out ahead of the primary. trump is leading with 29% among likely republican voters. cruz in third with 13. there is nearly 7% marvin of error. and on the democratic side, bernie sanders has 61% to hillary clinton's 30%. again, the poll's margin of error is also pretty big. 6 1/2%. tomorrow night on 360, we'll have more on my interview with donald trump.
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voters asking him questions at theo's restaurant in manchester, new hampshire. it's a fascinating and more casual setting than we often see him in. the voters asked him some great questions. more of that interview with trump tomorrow. that does it for us tonight. thanks for watching. the gloves are off. the two remaining democratic candidates hold nothing back in their debate. and donald trump, he gets personal. the presidential candidate sit downs with cnn or fo a one-on-one interview. cracking down on dissent. why china's critics are fearful they could be targeted even if they live outside of the country. it's all next here in the next hour. welcome to our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. i'm natalie allen. >> and i'm george howell from cnn headquarters in atlanta. newsroom starts right now.
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a very good day to you. we start this hour with the democratic candidates that are running for president of the united states. hillary clinton and bernie sanders in that heated debate in new hampshire on msnbc. >> sanders railed on clinton for her ties to big banks and wall street. he focused a lot of attention on campaign finance reform. >> clinton said she's had enough of the smear tactics. she says while she may have indeed taken money and speaking fees, it never influenced her policies or votes. >> well, the latest poll out of new hampshire shows sanders with a growing lead. the cnn/wmur surveys shows sanders with 61%. hillary clinton with 30% that. >> is a 4% increase for sanders since the last poll in late january. roughly 2/3 of new hampshire voters surveyed say they have definitely decided on a candidate. it's fair to say this was a much more heated democratic debate than we have seen before. and this is very important. just a few days now before the new hampshire primary.
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>> joining us from los angeles to talk about it is matthew lippman. a former speech writer for joe biden and senior adviser to president obama when he was running for president. and jonathan tasini. he wrote the book on bernie sanders. it's called "the essential bernie sanders and his vision for america." thank you both for joining us. >> thanks. >> since jonathan has the home field advantage, we'll start in l.a. with you, matthew. was there a winner in this debate? >> well, first of all, i was one of those people who thought that there were enough debates and we didn't need more. and i was definitely wrong. i thought this was the best debate i've seen so far in either party. i thought it was absolutely terrific. if you went in liking bernie sanders, you like bernie sanders after the debate. if you went in liking hillary like i do, you like hillary after the debate. i think hillary's command of a wider variety of issues than sanders and her ability to get things done that she has proven over a long career is what puts her in the driver's seat as far as i'm concerned and a makes her
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the better candidate. >> jonathan do, you mirror his perspective on this debate? >> i would say, well, i'd say two things. one is i'm actually in favor of the forum setup that cnn did last night and the one that chris cuomo moderated a week or two ago. i think it's a much better setup where candidates actually get to talk directly to the audience, get to talk at length. a little bit of back and forth. but i do agree it was an interesting debate. there was some fireworks, theatrics. i still think that the status quo candidate hillary clinton has not answered very fully or has dodged some very important issues. for example, her vote for the iraq war. she continues to dismiss that as if it's something that happened so long ago, we shouldn't care about it, even though it killed hundreds of thousands of people, cost the taxpayers $3 trillion and counting, and really did create isis. and in my view, that disqualifies her for being the
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democratic nominee. and it actually shows that bernie sanders who voted against the war has much more wisdom in deciding how to pursue foreign policy. >> jonathan, thank you on that. and matthew, we'll get back do that as well a little later. but i do want to ask you in broad strokes here, when you look at these two candidates and these issues that were brought up, when you talk about main street versus wall street. when you talk about progressive versus the establishment, do you feel that secretary clinton responded to this claim where she says that mr. sanders has become the standard bearer of being progressive. listen to this sound bite. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> okay. if we're going to get into labels, i don't think it was particularly progressive to vote against the brady bill five times. i don't think it was progressive to vote to give gunmakers and sellers immunity. i don't think it was progressive to vote against ted kennedy's immigration reform. so we can go back and forth like this. but the fact is most people watching tonight want to know
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what we've done and what we will do. that's why i am laying out a specific agenda that will make progress, get more jobs with rising incomes, get us to universal health care coverage, get us to universal pre-k, paid family leave, and the other elements of what i think will build a strong economy that will ensure that americans keep making progress. >> fair to say that is a fired hillary clinton. so matthew, this question first to you. do you feel like she is likely to change people's perceptions with how she answered? >> yeah, there are two things. first of all, i have to answer what jonathan said about hillary clinton there is a reason why barack obama picked her to be secretary and why she is considered to have been a very good secretary of state. i just want to get that out of the way. also, it's important to note that bernie sanders has no foreign policy advisers on his campaign. that's number one and two. on the progressive issue, let's remember that when hillary clinton was at a law school, she was going door to door to find
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out why disabled people weren't showing up in schools. she was working for a foundation at this point. and she has been a liberal since before being a liberal was cool. people used to make fun of the term "liberal." there was a long time of that, remember when reagan was president there is reason why groups like planned parenthood support hillary clinton. hillary is a progressive. but as she says, she actually wants the get things done. these perfect ideas that bernie sanders has the expression don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. i think hillary is capable of getting things done. it doesn't sound that way from hearing what sanders wants to do. >> matthew, we did hear basically bernie sanders made the point that ms. clinton has taken money from wall street. so i want to pose this question again to you, jonathan. do you feel that clinton answered that she is progressive enough, and that she is not tied as closely to wall street as she's being described? >> look, of course not. but let me sort of telescope back a little bit. i think the great triumph of
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this democratic primary has been that if you want to win the democratic primary, you have to be a progressive. and bernie sanders is the one that has defined the issues of this campaign. around income inequality, the control of billionaires over our politics, the corruption in washington, the establishment of politics. hillary clinton is the status quo candidate. as bernie sanders recently pointed out, just a couple of days ago, it's fine to be a moderate. some of his best friends are moderates. the fact is hillary clinton is running away from long-term policies that she had, stances that she took. i mentioned the iraq war. she stood on the senate floor and a argued for the defense of marriage act, which was one of the most anti-gay pieces of legislation that we've had in the past couple of decades. she said "marriage is between a man and a woman" at the time that millions of us, real progressives were marching in the streets for marriage equality. and she never changed her position until the polls said that she should change her
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position. >> so on both sides, you see people are definitely heated up about this debate. well will have more from that interview with jonathan tasini and matthew litman about the debate in the next hour here on cnn newsroom. now to the republican side of things where the race between candidates is a little tighter there. you can see it from the latest cnn/wmur poll. it shows donald trump leading among new hampshire voters surveyed with 29%. marco rubio now second place with 18%. >> iowa caucus winner ted cruz has 13%. ohio governor john kasich 12% and jebb bush 10%. and donald trump sat down with cnn for a one-on-one interview. he talked with our anderson cooper in new hampshire just a few days from the primary there. >> you're doing more in new hampshire. you're doing more smaller events. you're doing more events. i think you've had four or five already today. >> yeah. >> events like this, with kind of people up close, asking you questions. is that a change in strategy?
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why? >> i don't think so. i just feel very comfortable up here. and i love being here. and, you know, i've just been embraced. have i friends that have nice houses, and they invite me over to dinner. they would anyway whether i was doing this or not. but there is a great level of comfort in new hampshire for me. >> in this poll, marco rubio has also now jumped to second place. do you think he is more of a threat than ted cruz? >> i don't know. it could be somebody out of the pack. i'm watching your stuff every night. and i'm saying wow, who is going to be moving. i've been doing well i guess in the polls, we do pretty well. but i don't know who is second. i really don't. are you saying that rubio came in second now? >> yes, he did. he came in second. >> it was sort of funny, because in iowa, he was third, and i was second. and they said he did fantastically well. and me they were sort of disappointed. i don't even know why they were disappointed. because i got, actually, the most votes in the history of the iowa caucus, you know for, republicans. >> huge turnout. >> and we had a huge turnout. it was really a tremendous -- i
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must say, i really enjoyed iowa. but this is -- there is a different feeling here. this is an amazing feeling with the people, with the crowds. you probably saw the crowd i had this morning. it was incredible. >> how important is it for you to win here? >> well, i'd love to win. because i like to win. my life is about winning. i don't like to lose. >> i've heard that about you. >> you know, it's your definition of win when you come in second of 11 people. actually 17. we started off with 17. let's say you're second out of 17. you know, i would consider that good. but no, i would love to be number one in new hampshire. i think it would send a great signal. >> we'll have more presidential politics ahead here. we'll have the latest on donald trump's ongoing political battle with ted cruz. well, the bombs keep raining down inside syria. we'll tell you why turkey warns of a new exodus of refugees, and a humanitarian crisis in the making. that's coming up. plus wikileaks founder
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julian assange hopes a u.n. panel's ruling will finally allow him to walk free after nearly four years at an embassy in london. but sweden says not so fast. that story ahead. you're watching "newsroom."
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welcome back. with the mass migration of refugees fleeing syria, world leaders are pledging more than $10 billion to help towards the crisis. it's money that will be used for humanitarian aid and to support those countries that are receiving the most refugees. >> but the u.n. says money alone will not solve the worst humanitarian crisis since world war ii. this comes after the u.n. temporarily paused peace talks because humanitarian promises have not been fulfilled. the turkish prime minister is warning a new exodus of refugees is fleeing toward his country from syria. >> on wednesday, russian air support helped the syrian regime take back two key towns near the city of aleppo. cnn's nick paton walsh has this story. >> reporter: a new exodus of syrians aiming for turkey and maybe beyond. these images, we can't verify seems to show thousands of
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syrian refugees fleeing late thursday for the turkish border north of the city of aleppo, once syria's commercial heart. you can sense the panic here. they're fleeing what could be one of the worst fights yet, the battle for aleppo. a key move in that fight came wednesday when regime fighters broke the long siege just to the city's north. russian air power key to this long desired tactical advance. rebels left in retreat. the onslaught here blamed by opposition members in geneva for the peace talks' collapse. the changes now in northern syria abound. the two key shia towns were reached by the regime by cutting the rebels' supply route. that could isolate hundreds of thousands. further north, the kurds are moving in two directions,
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potentially cutting isis off at the tuckerish border. the smell of burning plastic strong in the air when we were there 18 months ago. and for those civilians trapped inside, it will be little comfort that these men are to the rescue. from the front, al qaeda and syria pouring here they claimed into the city to defend it. many rebels in aleppo are moderate activists insist. but it is nusra making the call to fight. today is the epic day, a historical day of the aleppo war, this fighter says. god willing it will be the cemetery for the invaders who came from russia and iran. as with most atrocities in this war, nothing is really new. it's all happened before. aleppo has been bombed and besieged for three years. it is just like most atrocities in this war remarkable that each hell could get still worse.
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nick paton walsh, cnn. a young boy who was hailed a hero for fighting insurgents has been killed. 11-year-old wasil ahmed helped to protect his family against taliban fighters who attacked his home last year. >> local officials in central afghanistan say gunmen on motor bikes shot him at a market. the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack on monday. >> earlier cnn spoke to nobel peace prize winner malala yousufzai about the boy's death. >> it is tragic, and it's not just this one boy, but it's happening to many children and many people in that region. and it's tragic that they do not have sympathy for children, for innocent children. and was only 15. and the only crime is that you want to go to school. you want freedom. you want to have the right to live in peace. that's the only crime. >> international law forbids the use of children in warfare.
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but ahmed once reportedly commanded a police unit for 43 days against a taliban siege. how sad that such a little boy is gunned down. wikileaks founder julian assange hopes a u.n. panel will rule in his favor nearly four years after he sought refugee in an embassy in london. >> the panel is set to announce in the coming hours that it feels that assange is being unlawfully detained. he has been living in ecuador's embassy in the british capital, and he has said that he is likely to exit that embassy. assange has been trying to stop extradition to sweden in connection with sex crime investigations. >> sweden and london police say the u.n. decision will make no difference. it's important to note that assange right now is not charged with any crime. >> assange has been entangled in this legal standoff for quite some time now. back in november of 2010, the stockholm criminal court issued an arrest warrant for assange. it was based on allegations of
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sexual assault from two wikileaks volunteers. >> the following month, assange turned himself in to police in london. he denied any wrongdoing. his supporters claim the charges were politically motivated. assange was placed under house arrest. in may 2012, the uk supreme court denied assange's appeal against extradition to sweden. the wikileaks founder feared sweden would then extradite him to the u.s. where he could face the death penalty for publishing government secrets on wikileaks. >> the following month, assange sought refuge in the ecuadoran consul in london and was granted asylum. he has been there ever since. the question now, will he walk out now and could he face arrest? we'll see what the decision will be. brazil is in the midst of a virus outbreak, but that is not stopping rio's big party. next we speak with revellers who say they're not afraid of zika.
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the zika virus and the mosquito that spreads it are considered public enemy number one around the world these days. but jamaica has a fun and clever way to get people focused. ♪ ♪ stagnant water inside, >> jamaica reported its first case of zika last week, a 4-year-old child. the doctor performing this song is also a comedian and poet says everyone has to help fight the virus. >> it's all about getting people's attention.
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he is doing that. in uruguay, health officials are going door to door. they're trying to raise awareness as well. no cases have been reported there so far. and they are waiting, trying to keep it that way. when it comes to zika, brazil is ground zero. but that fact does not seem to deter carnival goers. shasta darlington has the story. >> reporter: brazil gearing up for its annual carnival celebration under a cloud cast by the zika virus. but you wouldn't know it heading out on the street here in rio de janeiro, going to the block party, the samba dome as they have their trial runs ahead of the big parades this weekend. zika simply isn't the topic of the day. in fact, they're expecting more visitors here in rio de janeiro. more than a million than they had last year. and it's the same for one of the hardest hit cities in the northeast that's been so affected by the zika virus and by a spike in birth detects.
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well, there they're also expecting more visitors than last year. this is largely due to the exchange rate. it's gotten too expensive for brazilians to spend their holidays abroad, and much cheaper for foreigners to come here to brazil. now that doesn't mean that officials aren't doing their part to try and minimize the risk of being bitten by a mosquito. they've been going door to door, trying to eliminate the pools of water that are the main place where the mosquitos that spread the virus breed. and they've been launching radio campaigns. president dilma rousseff was on national tv, also trying to get people to pitch in and do their part. they've each been at the samba drome, fumigating. this is a big deal because the link between the zika virus and the birth defects was established here by doctors. the number of birth detects continues to rise. and there has been concern that the carnival celebrations could help spread the virus further afield. but, again, you head out on the streets, and it seems all people want to do is party.
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shasta darlington, cnn, rio de janeiro. live around the world this hour, you're watching "cnn newsroom." %-pc presidential debate. we'll find out what made hillary clinton say enough is enough. that's next. also ahead here, officials on china's mainland is cracking down on critics well beyond their borders. we'll have a report. stay with us. oh remotes, you've had it tough.
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her. donald trump leads the republican field with 29% in the latest cnn/wmur poll of new hampshire voters. marco rubio has jumped from third to second with 18%. iowa caucus winner ted cruz has 13%. and former florida governor jeb bush with 10%. >> and on the democratic side of things, bernie sanders keeps that lead growing in that state. the latest cnn/wmur poll shows sanders with 61%. hillary clinton with 30%. roughly 2/3 of new hampshire voters say they have definitely decided on a candidate. the new hampshire primary is coming up in just four days' time. and the debate thursday night gave hillary clinton and bernie sanders the perfect opportunity to make their case to voters. here are some of the highlights. >> people support me because they know me. they know my life's work. they have worked with me. >> our job together is to end --
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create an economy that works for all. >> i'm not making promises that i cannot keep. but you will not find that i ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation that i ever received. i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks, and let's talk about the issues. >> oh. >> kid gets caught with marijuana. that kid has a police record. a wall street executive destroys the economy. $5 billion settlement the government. no criminal record. that is what power is about. >> i'm absolutely against privatizing the v.a. and i am going to do everything i can to try to fix what is wrong with the v.a. >> i think where we now stand, correct me if i am wrong, you have 23 delegates. i have 20 delegates. we need 2500 delegates to win the nomination. this is not the biggest deal in
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the world. >> i'm so fortunate as to be the nominee. the first personally call to talk about where we go and how we get it done will be senator sanders. >> i happen to respect the secretary very much. i hope it's mutual. >> so it was heated for sure, but ended on amicable terms. >> it certainly did. >> the republican candidates are also looking ahead to the new hampshire primary. and donald trump may have a new target in his sights. >> after his loss in iowa, trump is changing his campaign strategy. cnn political correspondent sara murray has more from portsmouth, new hampshire. >> reporter: dump is kicking it up a not. >> i'm starting to spend good money. and the reason is number one, i don't want the take a chance. number two, i don't want to blow it. >> reporter: on top of spending on the airwaves, today trump doubled his schedule from two
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events to four. >> got to do it. it's called crunch time, right? >> reporter: but with just five days until new hampshire, trump's campaign schedule is still relatively light, including today trump has just six events planned before the primary. after losing iowa, trump, loathe to admit mistakes, acknowledged he could have built a more solid ground operation. >> in retrospect, we could have done much better with the ground game. >> reporter: in days since he has made a point of stopping by his campaign offices to rally the troops. >> i'll see you in a little while. >> reporter: one thing he is not doing, downplaying expectations. making it clear he's playing to win in new hampshire. >> it's something i'd like to win. i've been here a lot. i have great relationship with the people of new hampshire. i love them. >> reporter: for now trump is well-positioned. leads in new hampshire with 29% from republican primary voters compared to 18% for marco rubio. whose moved in second.
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meanwhile, ted cruz at 13% is nearly tied for third with john kasich at 12%. trump's position on top has cruz, the iowa victor, sharpening his knives. >> donald trump is very rattled right now. he told the entire world he was going to win iowa. and then he didn't win. >> reporter: and accusing trump of being a sore loser after iowa. >> or you can call it a trumpertantrum. >> reporter: and after jimmy carter suggested he would prefer a president trump over cruz, the texas senator turned that around on trump as well. >> jimmy carter said the reason is simple. donald's views, this is almost a quote. it's not quite verb ba verb bai tum, but it's close. >> one way or another, he sending up on pennsylvania avenue. >> no seriously, who would want to lead the way?
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although i'm building a hotel right next door, which is also located. i'll still be on pennsylvania avenue, one way or the other. >> reporter: donald trump has just a couple days until the new hampshire primary, and his number one goal is making sure people don't eat into his lead. a big part of that is making sure he is visible in new hampshire. to that end, the campaign is already adding more events. sara murray, cnn, portsmouth, new hampshire. well, the next republican debate is this saturday. and our erin burnett hosts a live post debate special. you can catch it right here on cnn at 11:00 p.m. eastern time in the u.s., or noon on sunday in hong kong. the days of china's critics feeling safe in foreign lands may be over. a disturbing number of arrests, extraditions and mysterious disappearances of chinese dissidents have recently taken place outside of china's borders. for more, let's go live now to senior international correspondent ivan watson in hong kong. he has been following this
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story. and ivan, we heard there are new developments. >> reporter: that's right. the police in the chinese city of guangdong sent a letter to police here in hong kong saying that three hong kong book sellers who have been missing for nearly four months, and their disappearance has helped spark street protests here in hong kong, the police in china announced that actually those men appear to be in chinese police custody, that they're being investigated right now for some unidentified criminal activity. and it is disappearances like that not only from hong kong, but from other countries as well, such as thailand and even myanmar that are raising questions about whether or not china is carrying out a crackdown against its critics beyond its borders. a desperate appeal from a wife to her husband imprisoned halfway around the world. >> translator: i want to tell my
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husband i hope we will see each other soon. i hope our family will reunite soon. >> reporter: her husband is a former police officer in china who became a pro-democracy activist. authorities threw him in prison several tiles for participating in protests. last year, dong fled with his wife and child to thailand where they thought they'd be safe. he was suddenly arrested last october and weeks later, despite objections from the united nations, he and another chinese exile were extradited back to china where they appeared in this confession broadcast on chinese state tv. she was left in shock. >> translator: the chinese government pressured him for so long that he ran away. why did they still need to chase us? >> reporter: decades, critics of china's ruling communist party fled across the border seeking refuge here in thailand. but now chinese dissidents in
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bangkok tell me they live in constant fear of being snatched and dragged back home by chinese security services. yu yun hua is another who ran away to thailand. she hasn't been back to her bangkok apartment in days after four dissidents disappeared from thailand in less than four months. >> these are your unhcr documents. >> reporter: she and a fellow chinese dissident have applied for asylum as political refugees with the u.n. in an effort to escape the long arm of the chinese law. the decision to run away from your country, that's a very difficult and very big decision to make. >> translator: i thought i would get protection in bangkok, that i wouldn't have to live in fear of arrest all the time.
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>> reporter: most frightening for chinese exiles, the case of this man. a well-known swedish publisher of books critical of the chinese leadership. he mysteriously disappeared from his condominium in thailand in october and was next shown on state tv in china in january in police custody. police in thailand say they have no record that he ever officially left the country, and they're investigating his possible kidnapping. >> the chinese government is trying to extend its reach to intimidate and silence critics outside of china. >> reporter: china expert mike chinoy argues the cross-border crackdown is part of a broader campaign by chinese leader xi jinping to remove any threat to the chinese communist party. >> the message is if you cross us, our reach is so great that we'll get you wherever.
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and it has therefore a tdeterret effect on people who might think of doing the same thing. >> reporter: the chinese government insists it is simply upholding the rule of law, adding that anyone who breaks the law will be punished. a punishment she says her husband does not deserve. >> translator: my husband told me he needs to see democracy in china. he will fight until the end. >> reporter: and natalie, the timing of the extradition of those two dissidents from thailand is particularly alarming both for human rights groups and for the united nations, because those two men had been in a thai prison, and they had received united nations official refugee status, which was supposed to protect them from being returned from their homeland. we're also told they had been granted asylum, fast track asylum in canada, and despite that, just a day or two later, they suddenly ended up being
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taken back to china and ending up behind bars. natalie? >> very disturbing. thank you for that report. ivan watson for us there in hong kong. we turn now to north korea and what could be an imminent rocket launch. >> u.s. official says the north may be fuelling a rocket that is expected to launch after monday. pyongyang, though, insists it is sending a satellite into orbit. but critics believe the launch is a front for a ballistic missile test. cnn's brian todd has this report. >> reporter: new indications that kim jong un is about to launch a long-range rocket into space. a u.s. official tells cnn north korea may already be fueling a rocket at its dong change ri site. >> whenever they get real close is when they'll move it over to the launch pad. we won't have a lot of warnin at that point. >> reporter: newly released images show the presence of vehicles, including buses for personnel at the launch site.
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the images show another ominous sign about the launch tower. >> they've made it higher, 10 meters higher since the last time they tried one of these launches. >> what does that mean? >> well, it could mean it's a bigger rocket. >> reporter: a bigger rocket with a longer range, possibly possible of hitting the continental united states. kim's regime already declared it will launch a satellite into space as early as this weekend. while the regime says it's an earth observation satellite, experts say that's a cover. >> they can claim it's a civilian satellite. but that's the same technology you would need to put an icbm warhead anywhere you wanton face of the earth. >> reporter: the expected path of this launch has the u.s., south korea and japanese mill tears on alert. the first stage of the rocket is supposed to drop into the yellow sea off the coast of south korea. a cover for the actual satellite should fall into the east china sea. then another stage drops into the philippine sea. but the u.s. and its allies say they'll shoot these components out of the sky if they go astray. coming on the heels of north
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korea's fourth nuclear bomb test, analysts believe kim is doing this to build his stature inside his country, to show he can stand up to the u.s. and his other enemies. but they worry the young violent dictator might miscalculate. >> we know less about him than his father and his grandfather. we even have concerns that perhaps he doesn't understand the concepts of red lines, that he might stumble across a red line that his father or grandfather would have known to stop short of. >> reporter: experts also worry about kim's dangerous partnerships. they say north korea cooperates a great deal with iran on nuclear and missile technology. one analyst told us he wouldn't be surprised if when this rocket is launched, there are several iranian scientists at the site. they want to learn about north korea's missile technology and possibly buy some of it. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> you're watching "cnn newsroom." still ahead, beyonce and the british band cold play come under fire for their controversial new video. we'll tell you why critics in india are offended.
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all right. so the excitement is building. super bowl 50 is just days away. look, it's not just about the game. whether you're rooting for the
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denver broncos or the carolina panthers, you know that the halftime show will definitely be entertaining. british band coldplay is headlining. >> we know that beyonce will be there. but there is a lot of speculation about surprise performers who might also make an appearance. coldplay band members spoke at a news conference thursday, and lead singer chris martin sounded like he is on the campaign trail. >> how do you get this gig? do you campaign? how does it all come together? how did you get it? >> we started in iowa three years ago. we had a bus, a small bus and at that point not many investors. we had barely enough money to afford one can of pepsi. pepsi stepped in. they were very sweet. they gave us a bigger bus. we got some stickers, coldplay for 2016. and then we just got out there and we just worked our little butts off. >> that was fun. beyonce's super bowl appearance should come as no surprise. she and coldplay filmed their
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latest music video in a rural village in india. >> that's right. it is a very colorful video. it features children dancing, and a bollywood actress actually makes an appearance. but some critics are calling the representation of india stereotypical. more on the controversy from mumbai. ♪ >> reporter: it's the video that's taking the internet by storm. 21 million hits on youtube within the first four days, and number one on itunes india. ♪ thank you to the people of india for making us feel so welcome, tweeted british band coldplay. but in india where the video was filmed, some people are showing it less love. >> kids guessed as guards, check. colors bright, bright colors, check. slum, check. >> reporter: like mumbai-based musician, many people in india say the video reinforces age old
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stereotypes and doesn't show india as it is today. ♪ try to count the india cliches. gave up after 47 seconds, says this tweet. >> when you become a band as big as coldplay, you have a little responsibility towards showing something which is relatively accurate. ♪ >> reporter: i asked popular bollywood star kapoor who appears in the video what she thinks of the controversy. >> some people are loving it and some people aren't. when it comes to art, any discussion is a good discussion. we use a lot of westernization in our films and videos. nobody speaks about us offending other people's sensibilities. but they are showing a part of india that exists. >> reporter: this is a village where coldplay shot most of its music video. and while there is a raging debate and discussion about it in other parts of india, over here nobody seems to care. nobody even seems to know what
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coldplay is. "nope, never heard of it" says this street vendor. coldplay? ♪ but the coldplay a little bit of controversy is translating into a lot of clicks in one of the world's fastest growing online markets. mallika kapoor, cnn, mumbai. >> they probably know coldplay now. switching now to weather. snow is headed toward the new england coast. >> it's going to make a very messy morning commute right along that i-95 corridor from boston to new york city. let me give you all the details. you've got to check this out, because this storm is actually a little more potent, and a little more intense than what we had anticipated this time yesterday. so here is the update. this is the system. low-pressure system really skimming the new england coast as we speak. real-time radar shows our precipitation now starting to transition to snow in the nation's capital. still rain in new york city.
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and we've got rain in boston. but it won't be long until we start to see the flakes fly in the big apple, all the way towards massachusetts and into connecticut and rhode island. in fact, from new york northward to boston, that's the area we anticipate the heaviest amounts of snow. anywhere between 6, 8 inches, perhaps locally even higher amounts. remember, we've got interstate 95 that connects all these major cities. the good news about this storm is a fast-moving storm system. it will quickly exit the new york city area by midday today. so we'll clear things up nicely. it will stick around, though, in boston. so that's the area that we're anticipating the most amount of snowfall. extending towards the extreme eastern sections of maine. here is where we have pinpointed our snowfall totals, just west of the boston metropolitan area, 6 to 8 inches. new york city, 2 to 4 for you. inland communities across upstate new york, maybe 1 to 2 inches. nonetheless, the national weather service has issued winter storm warnings. eastern connecticut, rhode island, central and eastern
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sections of massachusetts, as well as long island. and what a difference a year makes. do you remember the epic winter of 2014-'15 into boston? well, yeah, we haven't quite gotten there yet. we have quite a ways to go before we reach those snowfall totals we did this time last year in boston. so they could use a couple more inches of snow. now the other side of the world, into turkey, just a quick update. we have a very potent storm system impacting the istanbul region. double-check your flight plans if you are traveling in or out of that world. especially into annika ra. that area expected to be impacted by a rain-snow mix. just above freezing mark for istanbul. that means rain for you. look at the cold, cold temperature forecast. only 9 degrees today. 6 degrees on saturday. and rain and wind continues into the middle east for the first parts of next week as well. lots to talk about. >> thank you, derek. >> thanks. the british television show "top gear" is getting a new
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co-host. >> it's got a lot of buzz about this. matt leblanc, the american actor who played joey on "friends" will join the show in may. he is the show's first nonbritish host. leblanc says he is a car nut and a huge fan of the show. >> it's joey. he'll join jeremy clarkson with chris evans after clarkson allegedly hit a producer. >> as it turns out, matt leblanc's character on the show "friends" was a bit of a porsche enthusiast. well, sort of. take a look. >> did a porsche throw up on you? >> hey! it's por-sha. >> that episode was one of many that inspired the internet to tweet about "friends" and top gear. >> one wrote i really hope this is the outfit he wears in top gear. >> another tweeted following the
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announcement of matt leblanc as top gear co-host, bbc also unveiled the new looks dig. that's monica with a turkey on her head. stig is top gear's anonymous race car driver. >> and another tweeted i'm just pleased that estell finally got joey a decent gig. you might recall estell being joey's agent from "friends" because joey never got his acting career going, did he? >> kind of did. we thank you for joining us. i'm george howell. >> and i'm natalie allen. stay with us. more of "cnn newsroom" in the next hour. be right back. it's hard to find time to keep up on my shows.
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the exit of julian assange, he faces arrest no matter the outcome. if you're tired of telluride or bored with bavaria, how about iran for your next skiing vacation? a lot of powder. >> we're not kidding here. iran for vacation. we'll tell you why the country's frozen north could be the next hot destination. and welcome to our viewer here is in the u.s. and around the world. i'm natalie allen. >> and i'm george howell from cnn world headquarters in atlanta. "newsroom" starts right now. we're just four days away from the new hampshire primary. and while the republican race is tightening, democrat bernie sanders is surging. he met rival hillary clinton at a debate in durham thursday night. >> sanders pressed on familiar campaign. >> everything from campaign finance reform to universal health care. clinton, though, touted her
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experience and public service, and claimed she is a true progressive candidate. listen. >> i understand senator sanders is really trying to distinguish himself. i understand that. that's what you do in campaigns. but at the same time, let's not be -- i think in an unfair way making an accusation or making an attack about where i stand and where i've always stood. and it is fair to say, senator, that in your definition as you being the self-proclaimed gatekeeper for progressivism, i don't know anyone else who fits that definition. >> instead of arguing about definitio definitions, let's talk what we should do. and one of the things we should do is not only talk the talk but walk the walk. >> the latest cnn/wmur shows sanders with 61% support in new
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hampshire. hillary clinton has 30%. >> and you saw from that snippet there, this debate was one of the more heated debates that we've seen between the two candidates. we talked about it with political strategist and sanders supporter jonathan tasini, and democratic strategist and clinton supporter matthew littman. >> i was one of those people who thought that there were enough debates and we didn't need more. i was definitely wrong. i thought this was the best debate i've seen so far in either party. i thought it was terrific. if you went in liking bernie sanders, you like bernie sanders after the debate. if you went in liking hillary like i do, you like hillary after the debate. i think hillary's command of a wider variety of issues than sanders and her ability to get things done that she has proven over a very long career is what puts her in the driver's seat as far as i'm concern and makes her the better candidate. >> jonathan, do you mirror his perspective on this debate? >> i would say -- well, i'd say two things. one is i'm actually in favor of the forum setup that cnn did
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last night and the one that chris cuomo moderated a week or two ago. i think it's a much better setup where candidates actually get to talk directly to the audience, get to talk at length. a little bit of back and forth. but i do agree it was an interesting debate. there were some fireworks, theatrics. i still think that the status quo candidate hillary clinton has not answered very fully or has dodged some very important issues. for example, her vote for the iraq war. she continues to dismiss that as if it's something that happened so long ago, we shouldn't care about it, even though it killed hundreds of thousands of people, cost the taxpayers $3 trillion and counting, and really did create isis. and in my view, that disqualifies her for being the democratic nominee. and it actually shows that bernie sanders who voted against the war has much more wisdom in deciding how to pursue foreign policy. >> sanders acknowledging that
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the former secretary of state has more experience, be he did make the distinction when it comes to judgment, and he did not let secretary clinton off the hook completely with that iraq vote. listen to this. >> i fully, fully concede that secretary clinton, who was secretary of state for four years has more experience. that is not arguable. in foreign affairs. but experience is not the only point. judgment is. and once again back in 2002 when we both looked at the same evidence about the wisdom of the war in iraq, one of us voted the right way, and one of us didn't. >> matthew, the question to you, how did you feel about that response? >> there is a reason why hillary did become secretary of state. look at what she did. she did the wrong vote on the iraq war. there is no doubt about it, and she says that. she was able to get sanctions against iran that everybody said was impossible. >> john, john kerry did that.
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>> actually, that's -- >> it was john kerry. no, that's not true. >> jonathan, enough. >> not true. >> having drinks with the ambassador from china in a hotel. that's how they were able to get those sanctions against iran after brazil and turkey went against them. she was able to bring china in. that was a pretty amazing accomplishment, one of many that she had as secretary of state. remember, bernie sanders has no foreign policy advisers at this point. >> bernie sanders was absolutely right. that was a highlight of the debate tonight. he made it clear that it's not just about flying around the world. it's not just about knowledge, knowing the names of the prime ministers and the presidents of various countries. it's about wisdom and knowledge. and the one thing that's not been brought out, go ask former senator bob graham, forrer senator of florida. he urged hillary clinton to look at the intelligence that many people, 23 democrats who voted against the war. she refused. she did not study those intelligence reports. go talk to bob graham. and reason is she had no desire
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to study those intelligence reports. she was going to embrace the bush-cheney-rumsfeld war. i asked every democrat in the country and around the country would you trust george bush and dick cheney and donald rumsfeld and cast your vote based on that knowledge? >> this was a more fired up clinton than we have seen in prior debates. until now it been a more subdued affair than the republican counterparts. that might be because of the numbers. here is one example of hillary clinton going for the jugular against sanders. >> i really don't think these kinds of attacks by insinuation are worthy of you. and enough is enough. if you've got something to say, say it directly. but you will not find that i ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation that i ever received. and i have stood up, and i have represented my constituents to
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the best of my ability. and i'm very proud of that. so i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks and let's talk -- let's talk about the issues. >> all right. let's go to you, matthew, with the point that she was making about taking donations from big, big money donors. >> yeah. so barack obama took a lot of money from wall street. i don't think that anybody would accuse barack obama of being in the pocket of wall street. wall street is a consistent in the state that hillary is in. >> hillary clinton is the status quo candidate. as bernie sanders recently pointed out, just a couple of days ago, it's fine to be a moderate. some of his best friends are moderates. the fact is that hillary clinton is running away from long-term policies that she had. stances that she took. i mentioned the iraq war. she stood on the senate floor and argued for the defense of marriage act, which was one of
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the most anti-gay pieces of legislation that we've had in the past couple of decades. she said marriage is between a man and a woman at the time that millions of us, real progressives were marching in the streets for marriage equality. and she never changed her position until the polls said that she should change her position. >> we know that bernie sanders had opened up his biggest poll lead yet in new hampshire. the cnn/wmur suggested that twice as many voters were likely to vote for sanders, 61% to 30%. how much do you think this played into their performances tonight? i'll start with you, matthew. >> i think sanders is obviously doing well in new hampshire. it seems to be a very good state for him. sanders has to note, though, and i'm sure jonathan understands this, that iowa and new hampshire are overwhelmingly white. and a lot of the states that are coming up are not overwhelmingly white. that's why you see hillary with bigger leads, where there are more african americans and
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latinos, more diverse population that represents more of a diverse america. i think she is going to be doing much better as we go along here. these two states are kind of an anomaly. >> what do you think about that, jonathan? >> well, i think that the bar has been constantly changed for bernie sanders. back -- it reminds me of the gandhi quote. first they ignore you. then they laugh at you. then they fight you, then you win, we're in stage 3 right now. we started at roughly 7% in the poll each time the bar has been moved. iowa doesn't matter. then iowa mattered. new hampshire wasn't at one point as important. now it doesn't matter because there is some home state advantage. i think the real thing that is happening over the course of the last several months is every time bernie sanders becomes more well-known, his support grows. and the national polls are closing almost every week. one of the things that is true about new hampshire is because bernie sanders is from the state next door in vermont, he is much better known. and i think that's why he has great support. i think once we move to nevada,
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which is now competitive, i think we're going to win in nevada. i think south carolina, as soon as we win new hampshire. those polls are going to start to close. ben gelis, the former head of the naacp just endorsed sander, a very important endorsement which will be very important in south carolina among the african american community. and most importantly, one of the things that i wasn't sure that bernie could do when he first started to run was raise enough money. so he will be on the air and have staff on the ground in every single one of the super tuesday states. and we're going to do very well in those states as well. >> matthew littman and jonathan tasini, thank you very much for your time. >> okay, pleasure to be here. >> well, it's getting real, isn't it? >> for sure. >> the race is a little tighter on the republican side. the latest cnn/wmur shows donald trump leading among new hampshire voters with 29%. marco rubio jumped from third to second with 18%. >> iowa caucus winner ted cruz, he has 13%. ohio governor john kasich, 12%.
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former florida governor jeb bush at 10%. >> donald trump sat down with cnn for a one-on-one interview. he talked with our anderson cooper about the upcoming new hampshire primary and about accusing gop rival ted cruz of mitting voter fraud at the iowa caucuses this week. >> there is a new cnn poll out here shows you're doing well here in new hampshire. how does it feel? >> it feels great. i just like it. i feel comfortable. >> in new hampshire, you're doing more smaller events. i think you've had four or five already today, events like this from kind of people up close asking you questions. is that a change in strategy? why? >> i don't think so. i just feel very comfortable up here. and i love being here. you know, i've just been embraced. i have people that have nice houses and invite me over to dinner and would anyway whether i was doing this or not. there's a great level of comfort in new hampshire for me.
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>> in this poll, marco rubio has jumped to second place. do you think he's more of a threat than ted cruz? >> i don't know. it could be somebody out of the pack. i'm watching your stuff every night and saying, who is going to be moving. i've been doing well. i guess in the polls we do pretty well. i don't know who is second. i really don't. are you saying that rubio came in second now? >> yes, he did. came in second in this poll. >> it was sort of funny, because in iowa, he was third and i was second. and they said he did fantastically well. and me, they were sort of disappointed. i don't know why they were disappointed because i got the most votes in the history of the iowa caucus, for the republicans. >> huge turnout. >> and we had a huge turnout. it was really a tremendous -- i must say, i really enjoyed iowa. but this is -- there's a different feeling here. this is an amazing feeling with the people, the crowds. you probably saw the crowd this morning. it was incredible. >> how important is it for you to win here?
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>> well, i'd love to win because i like to win. my life is about winning. i don't like to lose. >> i've heard that about you. >> you know, your definition of win. when you come in second out of 11 people, actually 17. we started out with 17 and many dropped out. let's say you're second out of 17, i would consider that good. but, no, i would love to be number one in new hampshire. it would send a great signal and my whole thing is make america great again. that's what i want to do. i want to make america great. so many things we can do to take back our country because we're losing our country. we're doing deals that are so ridiculous. the deal with iran. we're handing over $150 billion. we get nothing. it's not like we get. we get nothing. so many horrible things are taking place. if you look at trade with china, we're going to make for them this year $500 billion. we can't do it. we can't afford this.
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mexico, japan, vietnam, that's another one coming on very strong. they're coming on so strong. vietnam, you don't believe what's going on there. they're taking our jobs, money, they're taking our base, they're taking everything from us. and it's not going to happen if i get elected president. it's not going to happen. >> you came in second in iowa to ted cruz. let's talk about cruz. you've basically accused him of fraud, of stealing the election in iowa. you talked about wanting a new election there. have you spoken to republican party officials about that? >> no, look. i'm into new hampshire now. it's one of those things, a lot of strange things. i like ben carson very much. and he got pretty roughed up, frankly, although it affected me maybe more than ben. but i'm so much, because i've been here now for two days, i'm so much into this, into new hampshire that i just don't care about that. >> you think ted cruz intentionally was spreading false information? >> i don't care. i don't want to even say. i guess let's see what happens. who cares.
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>> ted cruz is still focusing his attacks on donald trump, although he is also battling with marco rubio for votes in new hampshire. just listen to this sample of their stump speeches on thursday. >> donald trump is very rattled. he told the entire world he was going to win iowa. and he didn't win. and his reaction is he got very angry. you know, he said how stupid could the people of iowa be. i assume the next question he is going to ask is how stupid can the people of new hampshire be. you know, my view of it is this is a job interview. and i don't think people are interested in temper tantrums. i don't think people are interested in insults and attacks. >> and i won't just be the republican president, i'll be the american president. i intend to work for all americans, even the people that don't agree with me. even the people that say nasty
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things about me on twitter, i'm going to cut their taxes too. >> the republican candidates will meet in their next debate saturday night in new hampshire. the state's primary is set for tuesday. in just a moment, we're following a story. breaking news from the u.n. a panel has made its ruling on whether wikileaks founder julian assange has been lawfully detained. we'll find out what could happen next in a live report ahead. also ahead, debate on the campaign trail. why new hampshire voters want to hearer what the presidential candidates will do to tackle heroin abuse in their state.
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we have this just in to cnn. a u.n. rights working group passed down that julian assange, the wikileaks founder has been arbitrarily detained. assange has been living inside ecuador's embassy in the british capital for nearly four years. >> he is trying to stop his extradition to sweden in connection with a sex crime investigation. live from london with more. good to have you with us. so julian assange has indicated that he will likely walk out of
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that embassy come noon there in london. if he does, will he still face arrest? >> well, he indicated that if he said the u.n. panel didn't find that his detention had been arbitrary, and that he had been deprived of his freedom, the u.n. panel has of course now officially confirmed he has been arbitrarily detained. we're waiting to hear from mr. assange what that means and what the next steps forward will be for him and his supporters. he is expected to speak some time later this morning uk time. this his supporters have always said if this finding was indeed as it now has been released to be in support of mr. assange, they said it will be a moral vindication. but under british law, george, it's very little more than that. british authority who have already seen this finding, they on the this a number of weeks ago in fact had indicated yesterday that in no way does this change their position under uk law.
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they are still bound legally to exercise that swedish arrest warrant in those outstanding allegations of rape. >> at that point, including the fact that this is a nonbinding ruling. so is there any back story or understanding as to why mr. assange has decided to make this decision based on this ruling? >> well, it would put him amongst the echelon of others whom the u.n. panel has found of being arbitrarily detained like aung san suu kyi or the egyptian president hamid morsi. on that level it does give a certain moral heft. he has not indicated if the u.n. finds in his favor he would still walk out of that embassy. because of course the legal status here in the uk has not changed. a lot of the legal experts we've been speaking to in the run-up to this decision being released say at the core of it, george, is this contention over whether he should have been arrested
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before he was charged, whether he should have been arrested to face questioning back in sweden, given that mr. assange has always said that he believes those allegations were framed politically, as he and his supporters put it. the swedish authorities say as far as they're concerned, they believe and they maintain this throughout, that this is all in the cause of running down the clock, george. two of those allegations, two of those outstanding charges have already expired because of the statute of limitations. and one of the remaining ones, the actual rape charge has a ten year statute of limitations there are only four years remaining on that. >> at this point all eyes, all cameras are on that embassy. live in london, we will stay in touch as we learn next steps in what happens with julian assange. switching now to the zika virus, it is considered ground zero in brazil where the outbreak has happened. the country's president vows to
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fight it and the mosquitos that spread it. >> but zika does not appear tock bothering partygoers around rios's annual carnival. the carnival starts in the coming days and shasta darlington reports on that. >> reporter: brazil gearing up for its annual carnival celebration under a cloud cast by the zika virus. but you wouldn't know it heading out on the street here in rio de janeiro, going to the block parties, the sambadrome as they have their trial runs ahead of the big parades this weekend. zika simply isn't the topic of the day. in fact, they're expecting more visitors here in rio de janeiro. more than a million than they had last year. and it's the same for one of the hardest hit cities in the northeast that's been so affected by the zika virus and by a spike in birth detects. well, there they're also expecting more visitors than last year. this is largely due to the exchange rate. it's gotten too expensive for brazilians to spend their holidays abroad, and much cheaper for foreigners to come here to brazil.
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now that doesn't mean that officials aren't doing their part to try and minimize the risk of being bitten by a mosquito. they've been going door to door, trying to eliminate the pools of water that are the main place where the mosquitos that spread the virus breed. and they've been launching radio campaigns. president dilma rousseff was on national tv, also trying to get people to pitch in and do their part. they've even been at the sambadrome fumigating. of course this is a big deal because the link between the zika virus and those birth defects was established here by doctors. the number of birth detects continues to rise. and there has been concern that the carnival celebrations could help spread the virus further afield. but, again, you head out on the streets, and it seems all people want to do is party. shasta darlington, cnn, rio de janeiro. >> they probably need the break from worrying. >> the party goes on.
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>> well next here on cnn, new indications kim jong un may launch a long-range rocket into space. we'll show you some newly released satellite images that may support this possibility. we'll break it down. plus, the moment at new hampshire's democratic presidential debate that had hillary clinton saying enough is enough. stay with us.
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and welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. we're live from atlanta. i'm natalie allen. >> and i'm george howell. the headlines we're following for you this hour. >> we have this just in to cnn.
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a u.n. rights working group has found that julian assange, the wikileaks founder, has been arbitrarily detained. assange has been living inside ecuador's embassy in the british capital for nearly four years. he is trying to stop his expedition to sweden in connection with the sex crime investigation. world leaders are pledging more than $10 billion to help refugees that are fleeing syria's savage war there. but the u.n. says the money alone will not solve the worst humanitarian crisis since world war ii. the u.n. has temporarily paused peace talks, saying humanitarian promises have not been fulfilled. two new york police officers are in good condition after being shot while on patrol thursday night. the officers were in and apartment stairwell when they encountered two men, one of whom opened fire and ran to a nearby apartment. police said they later found the suspect dead from what appears to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
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and a quick snapshot at politics. donald trump leads the republican presidential candidates with 29% in the latest cnn/wmur poll of new hampshire. marco rubio second with 18%. ted cruz with 13%. and among democrats, bernie sanders leads hillary clinton 61% to 30. >> new hampshire right next to vermont, which is his home state. so he has a lot of fans in that area. we will see if clinton or sanders changed any voters' minds with their debate performances in new hampshire thursday evening. >> it was a lively debate. here are some of the highlights. >> people support me because they know me. they know my life's work. they have worked with me. >> our job together is to create an economy that works for all. >> i'm not making promises that i cannot keep. but you will not find that i ever changed a view or a vote
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because of any donation that i ever received. i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks and let's talk -- let's talk about the issues. >> kid gets caught with marijuana. that kid has a police record. a wall street executive destroys the economy. $5 billion settlement the government. no criminal record that is what power is about. >> i'm absolutely against privatizing the v.a. and i am going to do everything i can to try to fix what is wrong with the v.a. >> i think where we now stand, correct me if i'm wrong, you have 23 delegates. have i 20 delegates. we need 2500 delegates to win the nomination. since it's not -- this is not the biggest deal in the world. >> i'm so fortunate as to be the nominee, first person i will call to talk to about where we good and how we get it done will be senator sanders.
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>> i happen to respect the secretary very much. i hope it's mutual. >> the topic of illegal drug use. it is one of the major issues on the campaign trail. candidates from both parties have been repeatedly asked how they would tackle heroin abuse and addiction in new hampshire. republican presidential candidate ted cruz says the problem lies with open borders. >> it is an absolute tragedy. and one of the things that is fuelling the tragedy is our open border. because heroin is being brought in by transnational criminal cartels. people like el chapo. now i know hollywood celebrities sean penn thinks el chapo is cute and chic and nice. and you're right. the attorney general of the united states sold him an illegal gun under fast and furious. it is ridiculous. and people are going to be held accountable. >> rampant heroin use isn't just
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a problem in new hampshire. cities and small towns across the u.s. say they are being overrun by the drug and the deaths it is causing. deborah feyerick has more. >> reporter: it's a cold new hampshire morning as the manchester s.w.a.t. team quietly moves into position. within minutes, two suspected drug dealers are arrested and taken into custody. >> we're at war with the drug cartels and the drug dealers not only in this city, but in the nation. >> reporter: the raid is part of a federal, state, and local operation called granite hammer. its goal, stemming the heroin epidemic ravaging new hampshire, where manchester police say every five days someone days of an overdose. usually heroin. >> five years ago in 2010 in this city, we seized less than 200 grams of heroin in one year. now fast forward to 2015. we took over 27,000 grams of
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heroin off the street. >> reporter: the heroin crisis has become a key issue for the presidential candidates. >> we can't be here in new hampshire and not talk about the addiction problem. >> it is a crisis. >> it's a horrible disease. >> that wall is going to stop so much of it. >> reporter: and it's weighing on voters' minds here in new hampshire. another home, another raid. the s.w.a.t. team is executing a search warrant on the second floor of an apartment where a man is suspected of dealing drugs. the sun is barely even up, and surveillance suggests that people, possibly buyers have been going in and out of that apartment for the last couple of hours. to understand the reach of the heroin epidemic, all you have to do is look at this map. this really shows what amounts to the poisoning of america. >> it does. and what's represented here is wherever you see orange is the sinaloa cart the's influence in the united states.
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>> reporter: michael ferguson is the special agent in charge of new england for the drug enforcement administration. dea for short. >> every city and town this is a heroin epidemic going on today. >> i'm looking at this. it's like a virus that is just spreading. >> it is a public safety, public health. it's a national security situation. >> reporter: ferguson says drug dealers are setting up shop in small towns across america, where rent is cheap and the profit margin high. at new hampshire's state police forensic laboratory, technicians take in 750 new drug cases every month. that's 100 more than they can physically process. >> we have a backlog of about 3500 cases. it is literally like shoveling sand against the tide. >> reporter: still, back on the streets of manchester, undercover and uniformed cops keep making arrests, keep trying to hold the tide at bay. deborah feyerick, cnn, manchester, new hampshire.
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>> heroin abuse is just one of many issues on the agenda in new hampshire. the next republican debate is this saturday and our erin burnett hosts a live post debate special. >> you can catch it right here on cnn at 11:00 p.m. eastern time in the u.s., or noon on sunday in hong kong. >> you're watching "cnn newsroom." still ahead, north korea could be a step closer now to carrying out a new provocative act. coming up, details on a possible rocket launch that is making some world leaders nervous.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." turning our attention now to north korea, where a rocket launch could be imminent. a u.s. official says the north may be fueling a rocket expected to launch after monday. >> north korea insists it is sending a satellite into orbit. but critics believe the launch is just a front for a ballistic
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missile test. cnn's brian todd reports for us from washington. >> reporter: new indications that kim jong un is about to launch a long-range rocket into space. a u.s. official tells cnn north korea may already be fueling a rocket at its dong chang ri site. >> whenever they get real close is when they'll move it over to the launch pad. we won't have a lot of warning at that point. >> reporter: newly released images show the presence of vehicles, including buses for personnel at the launch site. the images show another ominous sign about the launch tower. >> they've made it higher, 10 meters higher since the last time they tried one of these launches. >> what does that mean? >> well, it could mean it's a bigger rocket. >> reporter: a bigger rocket with a longer range, possibly capable of hitting the continental united states. kim's regime already declared it will launch a satellite into space as early as this weekend. while the regime says it's an earth observation satellite, experts say that's a cover. >> they can claim it's a civilian satellite. but that's the same technology
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you would need to put an icbm warhead anywhere you wanton face of the earth. >> reporter: the expected path of this launch has the u.s., south korea and japanese mill militaries on alert. the first stage of the rocket is supposed to drop into the yellow sea off the coast of south korea. a cover for the actual satellite should fall into the east china sea. then another stage drops into the philippine sea. but the u.s. and its allies say they'll shoot these components out of the sky if they go astray. coming on the heels of north korea's fourth nuclear bomb test, analysts believe kim is doing this to build his stature inside his country, to show he can stand up to the u.s. and his other enemies. but they worry the young violent dictator might miscalculate. >> we know less about him than his father and his grandfather. we even have concerns that perhaps he doesn't understand the concepts of red lines, that he might stumble across a red line that his father or grandfather would have known to stop short of. >> reporter: experts also worry about kim's dangerous partnerships.
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they say north korea cooperates a great deal with iran on nuclear and missile technology. one analyst told us he wouldn't be surprised if when this rocket is launched, there are several iranian scientists at the site. they want to learn about north korea's missile technology and possibly buy some of it. brian todd, cnn, washington. chinese football club has agreed to a record-breaking deal with brazilian striker alex teixeira. the club will pay him $56 million to join them for the start of the china super league season in march. earlier this week, another chinese club struck a $45 million deal with colombian striker jackson martinez. it is the largest annual human migration in the world. you know what we're talking about? china. every year hundreds of millions of chinese people travel home to celebrate the lunar new year. >> that's right. more than 1.4 million passengers
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left guangzhou by train, setting a new record. cnn's andra field takes us to an overcrowded railway station there as travelers prepare for the long journey home. >> reporter: just take a look around. these people are waiting patiently, but they have been waiting all year for this moment. for so many of them, this is the one and only time of the year where they'll get to go home. they'll see their friends. they'll see their family members. which is what makes all of this the largest annual migration of people on the planet. here in china, it's called the spring festival, and it includes the lunar new year. so everyone is scrambling to get home by new year's eve. there will be 332 million train trips taken across china. these people have all had to buy their tickets weeks in advance. for a lot of them, the journey won't just take hours, it will actually take days. the trains leaving the station here is in southern china are some of the busiest. it's a manufacturing area.
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the workers come from all over the country, which means that the journey home can start with one train ride being followed by a few more train rides. a few people tell us after that they could have to hop on a coupe of buses. these trains will run all through the day and all through the night. every single seat on this train is sold out. and actually, it's quite common that you'll see people sitting on the floor. a lot of these trains have standing room only. every inch is packed with stuff that people are bringing home. if there are delays, if weather throws the schedule off, that's when you can have pretty big problems. with all these people traveling, it can create a lot of chaos. the spring festival lasts for 40 day. during that time, there will be 2.9 billion trips. but the biggest rush happens in the days and the hours before the dawn of the year of the red fire monkey. >> all right. well, the next time i take the six-hour drive home to my hometown. >> can't complain anymore. you have to just imagine. >> they want to be home.
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>> what they're going through. >> pretty cool. all right. well, will people be flocking to another country for a certain reason? there is an iran that few in the west have ever heard about, much less seen. when we come back, it's a ski and winter sport destination. the country hopes will lure millions. fred pleitgen will report for us.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." well, it was what, two weeks ago we were talking about the big blizzard here for hours. and parts of the u.s. eastern seaboard are still cleaning up after that record snowfall. >> and now another winter weather system is bearing down on new england. our meteorologist derek van dam is here to talk to us about that. >> there are some big differences between that storm two weeks ago and this one, that's for sure. this is a much faster moving storm system. but it's going to give people a big wake-up call for boston and new york city. let me explain, natalie, george, everybody at home. take a look at this. this is the realtime radar coming along the east coast. you can see the precipitation sliding parallel with the new england coastline. we're starting to experience that transition from rain to snow in the nation's capital, into new york, philadelphia, and boston. that i-95 corridor, we talk about it so much.
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that's the main interstate that connects all these major cities together. well, yeah, it's going to be a sloppy mess this morning. and you can plan on the worst conditions, basically from long island northward into the boston area. let's time this out if you are perhaps traveling to this region or you're waking up along the east coast this morning, trying to plan your day. new york city, you have a good six hours of snowfall this morning. but it will taper off right around that lunchtime period. it's really boston into the providence area, eastern sections of connecticut that will continue to see the heavier snowfall. by the way the eastern sections of long island. but look how quickly the storm moves out by late tonight and into early tomorrow morning. i think the storm will be long gone. nonetheless, just west of boston, 6 to 8 inches for the boston metro. a half a foot of snow not out of the question. new york city, long island, 2 to 4 inches of snow for you. heaviest snowfall definitely over the extreme eastern
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sections of maine where we expect the storm to linger around for the longest period of time. the other side of the world, into turkey, this particular part of the eastern europe is also getting hit by a winter storm. that is going to bring snowfall to the higher elevations of turkey. istanbul, i do anticipate your anticipation to keep warm. in the liquid variety, but nonetheless it will be rather unpleasant saturday and sunday for those locations. rain and a wind as a storm system continues to move through central turkey. >> all right. well, we're going to talk about some skiing weather in a place i know you like the ski. >> you're a skier. >> yes. and i believe you're going to iran now, correct? >> right. >> all three of us are going skiing in iran. >> that's the thing. >> show it to me. >> iran now with the nuclear deal, the agreement on the books, sanctions being lifted from the west, iran is focusing in on tourism. >> one major attraction, iran's mountain ranges with powder and ice the country hopes will lure
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lovers of winter sports. we might all be there. cnn's fred pleitgen is. >> reporter: deep in the albores mountain range lies an iran few in the west have heard about. the darban ski resort is one of the biggest and most modern. skiers marvel at the quality of the snow and the facilities. >> the snow is powder. i love that. it's amazing. >> at an elevation of 3,600 meter, around 12,000 feet, darban sar slopes are packed, mostly with iranians looking to escape the urban jung to feel capital tehran. iran has a wealth of beautiful mountains and ski areas, and ski tourism is one of the industries that the government here wants to develop. they hope that with the lifting of sanctions very soon, millions of tourists from all over the world will come here.
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with a dj, a nonalcoholic cocktail bar, and an american style food court, it's a far cry from the way iran is often portrayed. with hard-liners chanting "death to america" and major problems with civil and women's rights. but in the mountains, gender equality is a lot closer. at the maigun ice climbing school, one of the best female ice climbers in iran expertly scales the frozen falls while fellow male athletes cheer her on. >> translator: ice climbing is much more risky than rock climbing, she says. the ice can break off any time and fall on you. but if you love the sport, it's really cool. ice climbing is still a fairly new sport in iran, but it is
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quickly catching on. the school's boss tells me. >> translator: we started 14 years ago, and now it's getting very popular, he says. every day we have between 60 and 70 people coming here for training and for competition. >> reporter: while iran still has a long way to go in improving its tourism infrastructure, it certainly has enough mountains, snow, and ice to become a popular winter sport destination. fred pleitgen, cnn, darbansar, iran. >> iran, colorado, iran, colorado. >> something to ponder for a future vacation, i guess. thanks for joining us for the past two hours. we appreciate it. i'm natalie allen. >> and i'm george howell. for viewers in the united states, "early start" is coming up next. and for other viewers around the world, stay with us for another addition of "cnn newsroom" with max foster. you're watching cnn.
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sparks fly at the democratic debate in new hampshire. hillary clinton and bernie sanders with the sharpest attacks yet in the first one-on-one match up. we are breaking down the biggest moments this friday morning. i'm christine romans. welcome to "early start." >> i'm john berman. breaking news, hillary clinton and bernie sanders come out swinging hard. the first one-on-one debate. it created a different feeling from hillary clinton. three days after barely winning iowa and five

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