great to have you with us. deeper divisions between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. clinton said sanders is too critical of president obama. >> she said he is a single issue canned day. on the other side, donald trump vows to play nice and going on the attack at the same time. they face off in their debate tomorrow night. senior correspondent jeff zeleny at the scene of last night's debate. >> reporter: hillary clinton and her call for a reality check. now, it was just those two on the stage behind me. but president obama hung on nearly every word. and he she hugged him tightly.
>> secretary clinton, you're not in the white house yet. >> a civil but contentious night for hillary clinton and bernie sanders. side by side is on stage since the commanding new hampshire victory up ended the primary fight. again and again, clinton tried making one thing fair. she is the rightful heir to president obama. >> today senator sanders said president obama failed the leadership test. this is not the first time he has criticized president obama. he has called him weak. he has called him a disappointment. >> it was a message for the voters of south carolina, they are widely african-american. >> i do not expect for someone running for the democratic nomination to succeed president obama. >> madam secretary, that is a low blow. the last time i heard a united states senator had the right to
disagree with the president, including a president who has done such an extraordinary job. bun of us ran against barack obama. i was not that candidate. >> sanders had the final word. but it opened a new chapter. it exposed deeper lines in their policy and political differences on health care reform clinton presented herself as the keeper of the legacy. >> before it was called obama care, it was called hillary care. >> senator sanders said race relations would be better in his administration. >> we will create millions of jobs for low income kids so they're not hanging out on street corner. >> clinton tied herself to obama and rejected the suggestion she would be swayed by campaign
donations. >> let's not in any way imply here that president obama or myself would not take on any vested interest, whether it's wall street, drug companies, insurance companies or frankly the gun lobby. >> let's not insult the intelligence of the people. people are not dumb. why does wall street make huge campaign contributions? i guess just for the fun of it. they want to throw many around. >> i'm not asking people to support me because i'm a woman. i ask people to support me because i think i am the most experienced person to be the commander in chief. >> i am proud to say that henry kissinger is not my friend.
i will not take advice from henry kissinger. >> i know journalists asked who you do listen to on foreign policy and we are yet to know who that is. >> well, it ain't henry kissinger. >> that's fine. >> these candidates go to nevada and then to south carolina. if you came into this debate a bernie sanders fan, you left a bernie sanders fan. vice versa for the clinton camp. it shows the deep lines will continue as the race spreads all across the country. >> jeff, thank you for setting the table for us. political anchor for time warner cable news and the senior editor for the daily beast, errol louis. was what your take away? >> clinton was outpointing
senator sanders in subtle ways. she had the mother of a dontre hamilton. he was shot 14 times. mental illness may have been involved. it was a real important issue. she drops the name. senator sanders doesn't do that. she is making direct appeals to black voters in south carolina. hillary clinton was showing her experience you have to be thinking about who is watching. not everybody watching is important or i should say some are more important than others. she was trying to do political business. >> you would put people who live in the states of nevada and south carolina of people more important than others. jeff, at the end there he said maybe bernie sanders didn't put up any new supporters, maybe
hillary clinton either. maybe what she did is shift the terms of this debate to friendly terrain. i'm talking about the barack obama legacy. let's play the key sound again where she really tries to suggest that she has been for barack obama and bernie sanders not so much. >> i don't think he gets the credit he deserves for being a president. he got us out, got us on firm ground, and set us for the future and it is the kind of criticism we have heard from senator sanders i expect from someone not running -- >> madam secretary, that is a low blow. >> he may have held his own in the back and forth. it seems hillary clinton would
rather talk about this for the next eight days more than she wants to talk about who is the progressive candidate. >> one of those lines you hear hillary clinton say on the stump quite a bit, how president obama doesn't get the credit he deserves. it is with an eye on nevada and south carolina. it is a strategy not without its risks. if she ends up the nominee, you have to bet the republicans will be playing this over and over and over again with independents that might not be as favorable with president obama. right now it is serving her purposes courting these base voters. >> she talked about the historic nature of her candidacy of being a woman. she didn't sort of spell it out in those terms. let me play it for you how she framed it. ? somebody told me earlier today we have had 200 presidential
primary debates and this is the first time there have been a majority on the stage. >> from a historical point of view, somebody with my background, somebody with my views, somebody who has spent his entire life taking on the big money interests, i think a victory would be of some historical accomplishment as well. >> that is interesting, right, jeff? bernie sanders, if he was elected it would be historical. but she said there are more women than had ever been on the stage in 200 years. >> i'm not sure it worked for her. she kind of shot them a look. they did not respond to that. the problem is the challenge for the clinton campaign is women voters. why are so many women voters, including young women voters, siding with his campaign, his
candidacy? that is something she knows she needs to work on and be address. he would be the first jewish president. she is not able to translate the history of that into votes going forward. >> he would be the first democratic socialist, the first jewish president. there is history there. you know month i don't think they don't care much about, henry kiss canninger. i don't think younger voters know who he is. >> i'm sure they don't. >> this is a 1976 campaign argument or 1984. hillary clinton sort of, you know, surrounding herself in henry kissinger. why bother have the argument over who likes henry kissinger
less? >> we're getting older, john. anybody who is 50 and up, remembers very well who henry kissinger was. for the sanders generation, he was a very important figure and very much re-viled figure. the professors of the kids on campuses, the people, the anti-war left from the -- not just the iraq war but the vietnam war remember very well what henry kissinger stood for. for bernie sanders it was instinctive he was going to check that box off. i'm sure the editors loved it. that is the crowd he is playing to a lot of the time. >> i do think the final change where bernie sanders and hillary clinton were debating on month
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we will remember this for years to come. take a look and see if you can guess why. >> has anyone else here struggled with being lied to? >> well, i voted for a guy who was
a tea party hero on the campaign trail. then went to d.c. and played patty-cake with chuck schumer. >> does it make you feel angry? >> it makes me feel dumb for trusting him. >> maybe vet for more than a pretty face next year. >> do you have room? >> come in. >> i'm ted cruz, and i approve this message. >> remember that line. why is it being pulled?
the actress you see right there, she has performed in private sex club, in satiable desires. >> those aren't in the tell prompter. you are enjoying reading this. her name is amy lindsey. she told buzz feed she is a conservative christian republican and thought those involved were aware of her tasteful adult background. here is errol louis and sara murray. errol, people see this and laughs. on the one hand, it is entertaining. on the other hand, ted cruz is trying to be the social values candidate, the evangelical guy. it is an embarrassment. >> it is a bit of an 'em
barement. if she said i went from one kind of darkness and into the light, it is a different thing. i don't think anybody thinks ted cruz is in any way insincere about his faith or on intention to make that a corner stone of his politics. >> she describes herself as a conservative christian. she is a republican. she is tweeting today her disappointment with having the ad pulled. they are heading to nevada. nevada doesn't discriminate against porn stars. >> glass half full. >> that is true. that is true. this seems like a campaign they want behind them. they didn't want the chatter out there. as you said, she's not happy with the ad being pulled.
>> donald trump. let's talk about the front-runner. won new hampshire. went to south carolina. campaign manager brags about the fact they pulled a negative ad. he goes to baton rouge and talks about the other candidates and bashes them like he has been. he gets emotion into it. >> poor jeb. he spent $20 million on negative ads. if he didn't do that, i wouldn't be talking badly about him. he's like a child. i hope you don't believe the crap because it's all crap.
>> you spent plenty of time with trump. is he going to be nicer in south carolina? which way is he going to go in south carolina? >> well, look, i think the reality is it will be a little bit of both. they think staying above the fray worked in new hampshire. donald trump is not the kind of guy who will take a punch from another candidate and not respond. he is actually incapable of doing that. on the campaign trail yesterday, marco rubio who thought he would disappear seemed to have woken up and realized he won new hampshire. his support is real. i think now that they are punching harder at him donald trump is saying, hey, you want me to just not respond? >> i think this is for the so-called establishment
candidates hoping to get a shot at a being the candidate to take on donald trump. they have to go through cruz. this is shaping up as a trump/cruz race. the two of them going back and forth. really it would have helped a lot of other candidates if trump indeed decided to run a bunch of ads and get into it in a fierce way. the reality is it helps both of them at the top to move on and let the establishment lane candidates finish each other off. >> so big day for john kasich yesterday. he does well. finishes second in new hampshire. goes to south carolina. i don't think people has a shot in south carolina. he did get a big win in his wall et. langone, head of home depot, gets behind john kasich.
putting his big money behind john kasich. he is a serious political player. how much of a difference, how much of a boost is this for john kasich? >> this is good news, obviously, for john kasich. he's someone who hasn't raised a whole bunch of money. we have seen in other years one billionaire or one rich person can keep a candidate afloat for a while. look at rick santorum and newt gingrich. it is still unclear where john kasich can make in inroads. but, hey, this is a step in the right direction. >> he is priding himself on running a positive campaign. he has a new ad out this morning. let's play a little snip et
of it and then analyze it. >> my father was a post man that told me, johnny, you stand on your own two feet, you go out there and change the world. my parents were killed by a
drunk driver but my parents did not die in vain. i was transformed. i discovered my purpose by discovering the lord. i believe the lord put us on this earth to give us the gifts to bring about
healing. that's the motivation for me. >> sara, pretty powerful. auto biographic al stuff, talking about where his faith comes down. >> he is doubling down on a positive message and talking about his faith in south carolina. it could be the kind of thing that gives him a little bit of a boost. ads like these, that's why you need a ken langone in your corner. in the sec states, you need to be able to go up on the airwaves and that's expensive. ken is a billionaire that opens doors to other billionaires. if you're like john case canning, who is building a campaign from scratch, that's
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formal cease-fire in syrian. syrian government forces making significant advances on aleppo and several shiite. cnn frederick pleitgen joins us with his exclusive report. tell us about your access, fred. >> reporter: hi, alisyn. you could hear russian plains in the skies the whole time. there were a lot of air strikes.
at this point in time quite frankly the devastation inside aleppo, who has been on the front line of this brutal war for five years now. let's have a look. >> years of urban combat have laid waste to aleppo's old town. army snipers scan the terrain for movement on the other side. >> we are on the side of the offensive. the soldiers tell us they still frequently see rebels on the other side. but they also say they often pick them off from the sniper's nest. this soldier tells me morale has never been higher. thanks to god, everything here is under control, he says. our fingers are on the triggers ready to destroy the forces. they have made major gains in recent weeks. while the opposition rebels say they are simply being slaughtered. the front line right around
aleppo's ancient citadel. as syrian and russian warplanes overhead, the commander knows who to thank for the new found. it's only a matter of months until we win. we will defeat the rebels once and for all. aleppo was syria's largest and one of its most historic towns. tourists used to flock to the old town before it was engulfed by syria's civil war. >> this is a historical site. these buildings are hundred, if not thousands, of years old. now you can see mostly destroyed and burned ow. >> reporter: they believe they are on the verge of a decisive victory. the commander warns the u.s. not to interfere. we are steadfast, he said. you cannot beat the syrian army
because we are determined to win and we are loyal to president assad. syrian government forces believe they are dealing a crushing blow to the opposition, one that could end this five-year civil war that has destroyed so much more than just the landscape. and part of those efforts to try to crushed opposition involve the syrian military, trying to take all the territory north of aleppo all the way to the turkish border. we are determined to do that. even with those peace talks that have been going on with russia, the u.s. and other powers as well. and the other thing that was really remarkable, we were there, the power that iran and hezbollah wield there as well. there were a lot of houses with pictures of iran's supreme leader on those houses. clearly the syrian military knows the momentum is large part thanks to hezbollah, iran, and russia. >> millions of people caught in
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a male african-american baby born today stands a 1 in 4 chance of ending up in jail. that is beyond sunspeakable. >> we have to also talk about jobs, education, housing, and other ways of helping communities do better. >> hillary clinton and senator bernie sanders trying to appeal to african-american voters in last night's debate. both candidates battling to see who can woo black voters ahead of south carolina and nevada where they make a big part of the electorate.
good morning, bakari. >> good morning. how are you, alisyn? >> i'm doing well. hillary clinton made the point last night. she's been making it for a few points on the campaign trail now she has a much longer history than bernie sanders. is it fair to say bernie sanders hasn't been fighting for these same things? >> i think that's one of the smaller issues that people are delving into. the larger issue, we saw this last night, bernie sanders has a barack obama problem. whether or not it was in 2011 where he attempted to primary the president or whether or not he understands this campaign is about building on and strengthening the legacy of barack obama, especially here for the tkraic vo democratic vo south carolina. it is about who is in a better position to build on and protect that legacy moving forward. >> senator sanders called that a low blow. he had, hey, i'm not the one who
ran against barack obama in 2008. he is saying hillary clinton is now wrapping herself in the cloak of barack obama's record, but she hasn't always done that. >> no, she hasn't always done that. but i think hillary clinton made an amazing pivot when she said, look, we had a contentious debate, even after her 2002 vote on the iraq war. who did barack obama trust to be the secretary of state? she said, look, bernie sanders, in 2011, you were still trying to primary the president. not only that, signing off on a book, talking about barack obama being a disappointment is simply something not going to play well here. we had a lot of layered discussion last night in the debate. one of the things that struck me, bernie sanders swung and miss when talking about race. the fact of the matter is, the economic measures, new economic measures, fighting in equality will not solve our race problem
here in the country. for someone to believe all of a sudden it will get better under bernie sanders is deillusional. you have to be he is more transformational than barack obama and i don't believe that. >> listen to this. >> when we have more people in jail disproportionately african-american and latino, here's my promise at the end of my first term as president we will not have more people in jail than any other country. we will invest in education and jobs for our kids not incarceration and more jails. >> what's wrong with that promise, bakari? >> i think it's a great promise. but i can also promise you that i am going to be a professional basketball player in three or
four years. the question is how? how do we make that a reality. african-americans, especially in sbg is sbg and throughout the country for that matter, are disproportionately incarcerated. we know we have systemic racism in our criminal justice system. how do we root that out? are we going to talk about patterning our criminal justice plans after the ferguson commission on 21st century policing reform? that's something i want to see done. that's something hillary mentioned last night. are we going to talk about mandatory minimums? the question is how. i think it's a lofty goal. i love the way senator sanders has us dreaming. i absolutely do. but the difference is we have to dream with our eyes open. we have to have con can realities and solutions to get there. >> cracial tension has not been
quelled. hillary clinton making the point that barack obama has made all of these accomplishments. >> we had a lower unemployment rate. 14 million insured. little black boys and black girls who can touch their hair and realize they have the same type hair that the president of the united states has so they too can have those dreams. i do think we have to build on and protect the legacy and all the accomplishments he has put in place. i'm under no illusion that barack obama or bernie sanders are a new messiah that will take us to a new place. we will see the voters in nevada and south carolina can-can at
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kind of like this look. i'm calling it the "name your price tool" phase. whatever. asked who you do listen to on foreign policy and we have yet to know who it is. >> well, it ain't henry kissinger, that's for sure. >> that's fine. that's fine. >> a big part of the debate focused how they need to protect their interests abroad. a cnn military analyst was among
many things. thanks so much for being with us. when you talk about this democratic race people say, look, on the issues of foreign policy, hillary clinton has more experience. bernie sanders says, yes, that's true. but he goes back to the iraq war vote. listen. >> secretary of state four years. you have pay bit of experience, i would imagine. but judgment matters as well. judgment matters as well. and she and i worked at the same evidence coming from the bush administration regarding iraq. i led the opposition against it. she voted for it. >> you come at this for a really interesting perspective, general. you were in the military. you advised against the invasion. then you had to fight as part of the in vacation and occupation. bernie were sanders said he voted against it. do you think he deserves the credit?
is that the kind of stand you think resonates with vote issers and should? >> well, he has shared with us what caused that judgment. because he didn't see something in the intelligence? was it because of force? was it because of the amount of money he perceived we would spent, the turmoil it would cause in the region. he said, yeah, it was my judgment that prevented me from doing it but doesn't say why. i was disappointed in both candidates. we expected what we got from secretary clinton. but senator sanders always relisis on that answer as, hey, my judgment 14 years ago and one vote is what you should rely on. well, there's been other judgments he has made. in fact, i mentioned last night that in 2012 we were trying to maintain forces in europe to counter a threat that we perceived was expanding not only the russians but also a terrorist threat.
we were testifying quite a bit in congress. there was an exchange between senator sanders and secretary panetta that showed his judgment wasn't so good. he had the wrong facts about what was in europe. i'm concerned still trying to remain apolitical on all of them. and i haven't seen yet that give me the strength other than secretary clinton's experience. even that is tainted. >> you talk about her experience. do you think she has explained her iraq war vote. you were there. you look at the same information she did. she voted for it. you argued against it. >> i was a baby general. i was a brand-new one star at the pentagon. i was saying things based auto training, experience, what we thought we would need in terms of a civil affairs forces afterwards, how it would affect the strategy and the rest of the world. what it might do in that area.
my arguing against it in a very quiet way was pointed towards the readiness to do the things we thought we needed to do. from a political standpoint, strategy standpoint, you need a lot more than that. i'm not sure the votes at the time were based on what was presented as intelligence. we now know, didn't know it at the time, that all of that was faulty. >> henry kissinger, look -- >> i do know who he is, john. >> in your military career, i don't think you served when he was secretary of state. if you did, it's just barely. it's been a long time since he was a player in international affairs. to hear him discuss in a democratic debate in 2016 the question is why, to what end? >> that confused me too. i was a cadet at west point when
secretary kissinger was in. this is one of those things you draw strength from a lot of different political and strategy theorists. that's what you have to do as a politician and potential president. you have to find a lot of different things to look at from the standpoint of theory and policies. that's what's so important. to pull out one and slam him, and secretary clinton did say mr. kissinger did have things occur during his term with president nixon. you take the good and bad and weigh them in a balanced way. to completely slam an individual because of conceptions. >> thanks so much. so much more to discuss in this democratic debate. the highs, lows, tense moments.
all of that starts right now. the last i heard we lived in a democratic society. >> this is the first time there have been a majority of women on stage. >> a sanders victory would be of some historical accomplishment. >> policing that will actually protect the communities that police officers are sworn to protect. . >> i completely agree with senator sanders. >> i think we all agree. >> i think i'm the most experienced, qualified person. >> judgment matters as well. >> don't listen to donald trump. >> i do not believe he is a true conservative. >> really. don't listen to donald trump. >> these people are stupid. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and
michaela pereira. >> it is going to be down to like 17. >> but the news is white hot this morning. >> god, you're good. good morning, everyone. welcome to "new day". you can see john berman is here. the latest debate between hillary clinton and bernie sanders highlighting differences between the candidates. clinton embracing president obama and clashing with sanders for criticizing the president. sanders sparring over foreign policy and who can best lead a divided country. >> after promising to play nice, donald trump doing anything but. the republican candidates they are preparing to square off in their own debate. jeff zeleny in milwaukee with the highlights, the big moments of the debate. good morning, jeff. >> reporter: good morning, john. this opened the next phase of the democratic primary of fight. with hillary clinton trying to be a big reality check to bernie sanders's aspirations. it was just the two of them on stage.
president obama was invoked again and again by hillary clinton, who is trying to hug him tighter than ever as she tries to present to democrats that she is his rightful heir. >> secretary clip, you're not in the white house yet. >> a civil but con shouse night for bernie sanders and hillary clinton. side by side on stage since the commander victory up ended the democratic primary fight. again and again, clinton tried making one thing clear, she is the rightful heir to president obama. >> today senator sanders said president obama failed the leadership test. this is not the first time he has criticized president obama. he has called him weak. he has called him a disappointment. >> it was a message for the voters of south carolina, they are widely african-american. >> i do not expect for someone running for the democratic nomination to succeed president obama. >> madam secretary, that is a
low blow. the last time i heard a united states senator had the right to disagree with the president, including a president who has done such an extraordinary job. one of us ran against barack obama. i was not that candidate. >> sanders had the final word. but it opened a new chapter. in the democratic dual that may be just beginning. it exposed deeper lines in their policy and political differences on health care, immigration and health care reform, clinton presented herself as the keeper of the obama legacy. >> before it was called obama care, it was called hillary care. >> if elected, sanders said race relations would be better in his administration. >> we will create millions of jobs for low income kids so they're not hanging out on street corner.
>> another tphrafrb point, flashpoint, money and politics. clinton tied herself to obama and rejected the suggestion she would be swayed by campaign donations. >> let's not in any way imply here that president obama or myself would not take on any vested interest, whether it's wall street, drug companies, insurance companies or frankly the gun lobby. >> let's not insult the intense of the american people. people are not dumb. why does wall street make huge campaign contributions? i guess just for the fun of it. they want to throw many around. >> sanders ran strong among women in new hampshire. clinton was asked why. >> i'm not asking people to support me because i'm a woman. i ask people to support me because i think i am the most qualified, experienced and ready person to be the president and commander in chief. >> sanders took a new approach
in questioning clinton's judgment, calling out her admiration for henry kissinger. >> i am proud to say that henry kissinger is not my friend. i will not take advice from henry kissinger. >> i know journalists asked who you do listen to on foreign policy and we are yet to know who that is. >> well, it ain't henry kissinger. >> that's fine. that's fine. >> so the debate was here in wisconsin. if you're wondering why, the democratic national committee picked the state six months ago thinking by this point she would be on her way to the general election fight and the primary would be nothing more than formality. that is not the situation at all. the audience for last night's debate were south carolina voters first and foremost. >> jeff, thanks so much for all that background. congressman jeffries.
thank you so much for being here. >> good morning, alisyn. >> you explained to reporters this week why you were supporting hillary clinton and not bernie sanders. on this conference call you said sanders has been missing in action. what does that mean? >> well, with respect to issues of importance to the african-american community in particular criminal justice reform and dealing with the gun violence epidemic we have in america, when you assess the record of bernie sanders certainly the last 40 days he has a lot to say about issues that are important to black americans and other communities of color throughout the nation. in the previous 40 years there was not much to be found. hillary clinton from the very beginning during her younger days as a lawyer, children's defense fund work to go deal with the prison industrial complex and make sure teenagers weren't being incarcerated with adults. or in arkansas wh.
her work in helping to create the children's health insurance program. 8 million children provided health coverage. many of them were african-americans. and her time in the united states senate, representing the great state of new york where she championed a whole host of issues. her record is clear. she's been there from the very beginning. bernie sanders, as i've said, is largely missing in action. >> bernie sanders says he has a record of progressive legislation that will help the african-american community. he says that he is interested and has worked for raising the minimum wage. as you know, he wants free college tuition. strong on income in equality. aren't these african-american issues? >> bernie sanders has done a good job of articulating a whole host of issues important to america and made a meaningful
contribution to the debate. i have a great amount of respect for senator sanders. but the question we all must confront who is best able not to articulate issues of importance but step into the job on day one of the presidency and help translate these inside into action. the notion of revolutionary change is very attractive particularly to young people. i understand that and respect that. when you look at senator sanders's time in office. he was a mayor for 8 years, 16 years in the house of representatives, 10th year in the united states senate. that is 34 years of public service and there is no evidence of revolutionary change. i have decided and many of my colleagues have concluded that hillary clinton has the capacity to translate these big ideas into action based on track record. that is what the american people need and deserve. >> last night there was a moment that got a lot of attention during the debate. that is when bernie sanders said
he would be a better president for race relations. listen to this moment >> sad isly, in america today, a whole lot of those poor people are african-american. >> so race relation the would be better under a sanders presidency? >> chutely. because what we will do is say instead of tax breaks to millionaires we will create millions of jobs for low income kids so they are not hanging out on street corner. we will make sure the kids stay in school or are able to get a college education. >> what did you think of that argument? >> i thought it was a pretty simplistic answer to a very complicated problem. under the obama administration, we have had 71 months of private sector job creation. he has done a tremendous job, meaning barack obama. we still have issues as it relates to race relations. we have come a long way in
america. we have a long way to go. it seemed presumptuous that bernie sanders, in the twilight of his career, is going to be the great healer when it comes to race relations. i think he said it authentically but it struck me as oversimplified. >> he talked about something he has been hitting on the campaign trail, that is the incarceration rate which obviously also applies in african-americans. >> let's not insult the intelligence of the american people. people aren't dumb. why in god's name does wall street make huge campaign contributions? i guess just for the fun of it. they want to throw money around. wall street and major banks have paid $200 billion in fines since the great crash. no wall street executive has been prosecuted. >> all right. that was not the moment that i was hoping for. so i will coat to you what he
said. we have more people in jail, disproportionately african-american and latino than china does. if he were president he would invest in prison reform and education and change that. >> certainly. and so will hillary clinton. we have a mass incarceration problem in america when the war on drugs was started in the early 1970s there was less than 350,000 people. today we have 2.3 million. we incarcerate more people in the united states than any other place in the world. i have been pleased during my time in congress there is a bipartisan recognition conservatives, progress if's, republicans, democrats that we have to do something about overcriminalization in america. that is something we can all find common ground on, hillary clinton from the very beginning of her career has fought with the prison industrial complex. >> you are a clinton supporter. you have made the case this morning. thanks for being on "new day". >> thank you. >> over to john. >> thanks, alisyn. on the republican side, donald
trump's new positive campaign strategy seems to be a thing of the past. a day old and it's already done. taking jabs at jeb bush and ted cruz at a packed louisiana rally last night. he put out a bunch of tweets mocking the duo. >> reporter: good morning, john. donald trump is trying positivity on for side. he pulled an attack ad running in south carolina and instead put up a more positive spot they felt gave a
boost in new hampshire. heats take a look at that. >> donald trump's business plan for america. >> it is good to hear him speak the truth. >> tells it like he is. >> trump is speaking about the truth. >> he wants to make america great and that's what i want too. >> now, despite this gauzy ad it is clear they are not done taking shots at his rivals. he went after a number of them
the other one looks at his faith. trying to keep the positive message that gave him a second place finish in new hampshire. in case you did not already think this week was jam packed full of politics, there will be even more action on the trail next week. donald trump has made snarky comments. we will see how that plays out on monday. >> sara, thanks so much for all of that. in international news, u.s., russia and other world powers reaching a peace deal for syria. a cessation of hostilities agreement. it calls for an end to the fighting one week from today for provisions to get aide to thousands of refugees. . the russians agreed to halt some air strikes in syria by next friday. pope francis holding a historic meeting with the
russian orthodox church in cuba. thereafter, he will head to mexico city. at least 2 million people expected to turn out. we have new developments in bill cosby's legal trouble. his wife will be compelled to sit for a definition in a civil action suit brought by seven. but she does not have to answer questions by the marital. donald trump went after all of his rivals in the south carolina primary. will they start to go after him? that's next. i have asthma...
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could these attacks chip away at trump support in that state. joining us is henry master, who endorsed donald trump. i have to tell you, endorsed him while i was in iowa. we agreed the biggest political event might not be happening in iowa that day but in south carolina. you are a player in that state. and you are also kind of an establishment player. u.s. attorney, attorney general, lieutenant governor. briefly, why did you decide to endorse donald trump? >> well, he's a powerful man. he's a man of action. he's a man of accomplish. . he means what he says and says what he means. everybody can understand what he is saying. and people believe him. i watched him. i watched all the candidates during the debates and in all the interviews. it dawned on me that donald trump was a man that could get the thing done. i think we're in a very
different sort of a period right now. around the world, foreign leaders, they're not is scared of us. they don't respect us. we have terrorism, things breaking out, things we have never seen before. and donald trump speaks directly to those things. and he's the one i think that communicates the best with the people. and they have confidence in him. i'll tell you this, if you go hear him speak and spend any time around him at all, it is hard not to have deep confidence in that man. >> i have. >> he is a powerful action figure. >> i have gone and heard him speak. i have been to his events. i saw him in new hampshire. when you endorse donald trump, are you endorsing his call to ban muslims, to build a wall along the southern border. >> i am endorsing donald trump. i think he -- >> do you want to ban muslims.
>> he can reignite economic prosperity, he can build the wall, make america great again. he is speaking to the big picture about the economic situation in the country. a lot of our problems are caused by the foreign competition or the unfair competition. he is really the only one that's addressed that. of course he started addressing the immigration issue and everybody has finally realized that's a very important issue for the people. but the big difference between donald trump and the other candidates, and they're were fine candidates. i have nothing wrong with them. a lot of them are friends of mine. but donald trump uniquely fits our times. people are looking for someone who speaks a language they can understand, he has gotten things done with his own money, by the way. they believe him. they have confidence in him. i believe he can do what he says. and that is to make this country great again. >> your governor, nikki haley, a
colleague of yours, i think a friend as well. she gave a response to the president's state of the union address. she gave comments largely seen as directed at donald trump. let's-listen to what she had. >> during anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. we must resist that temptation. no one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws and lob our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country. >> so do you disagree with governor nikki haley? >> well, governor haley of course is a good friend of mine. we work together on a lot of things. that was a good speech, i thought. i think there is anger in the country. i describe it as concern, as i have seen. people are concerned about the direction the country is going. they see us not having the
strength and prosperity we ought to be having. they are concerned about terrorism and it's getting stronger. we are just at the beginning of this thing in my opinion. if my reading of history and the facts of what's going on around the world is true. new york is experiencing enormous problems. it is something we have to be concerned about. people love the country. they knew it was hard to build. you can't just turn things around overnight. sit going to take a strong, powerful leader that the people can trust and that people understand that our friends around the world can depend on that our enemies around the world will fear, this great free enterprise system. donald trump is the man that can do it. i believe it and so do the people of south carolina. that's why i believe he will
win. >> he is speaking clearly and bluntry right now. just put out a tweet about ted cruz that says how can ted cruz be an evangelical christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest? a, do you agree with donald trump that ted cruz lies so much and is dishonest? b, you have endorsed not just donald trump and the way he speaks, do you endorse that tone in the political discourse? >> i endorse telling the truth. one thing about donald trump is he says the same thing to different groups -- >> is he telling the truth about ted cruz right now when he calls him a liar? >> i think when donald trump speaks, he tells the truth as he he sees it. that is very important and it is something that you don't see in some other candidates. you see subtle messages in an attempt to be delivered. you see people trying to have it both ways.
you see people saying things you know are not true. i'll tell you, a deceitful candidate, a half truth is a dangerous, dangerous thing. you never see that from donald trump. that is one thing the people like about him. in the rallies, when he is signing autographs, people want to hug him. they love him, they say so. it is a wonderful thing. i have seen nothing like it in politics. i have never seen crowds like this. crowds of 10,000 people, 8,000 people, 12,000 people. no other candidate is doing that. and it's because people sense something in donald trump that they are looking for and they know this country needs. and that is a strong, powerful man of action. a man of accomplishment who can get things done. it is a wonderful thing to behold. that's why i follow him. that's why i believe he will win the south carolina primary. i think he will be our best candidate against anyone the
democrats put up. >> i think this country, the whole country will see how much influence you have in the coming eight days. they will get an eyeful. >> it is not my influence. it is donald trump's influence. >> alisyn. >> okay, john, pretty heated exchanges in last night's democratic debate. who won those? we break that down next. see see me. don't stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i'm not contagious. see me to know that i won't stop. until i find what works. discover cosentyx, a different kind of medicine for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. proven to help the majority of people find clear or almost clear skin. 8 out of 10 people saw 75% skin clearance at 3 months. while the majority saw 90% clearance.
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strong winds. no injuries reported. it is unclear what is causing this fire. south korean officials to discuss mice ill defense next week. soul cut power to a factory run joint with pyongyang. 46 current and former correctional officers rounded up in an undercover sting at nine prisons across georgia. smuggling liquor, tobacco and cell phones. they used the cell phones to commit money laundering. very heated exchanges. who won those? mark preston and jackie
kucinich. i know you were up late. mark, let me start with you. there was a moment hillary clinton embraced president obama. she has been doing more on the campaign trail. she had bernie sanders has been too critical. watch this. >> the kind of criticism that we have heard from senator sanders about our president i expect in republicans. i do not expect from someone running for the democratic nomination. >> that is -- madam secretary, that is a low blow. the last i heard a united states senator had the right to disagree with the president, including the president who has done such an extraordinary job. one of us ran against barack obama. i was not that candidate. >> all right. mark, what did you think? who won that stpwhupb.
>> certainly if hillary clinton is trying to get the african-american vote in massive numbers, i think she won that exchange. but there is something to say about what bernie sanders is relaying back to her. as a senator you have to disagree with your president sometimes. there is a battle over the wills. embracing barack obama is not a bad strategy because they have large african-american populations. i think bernie sanders is going for a fringe electorate to pull them in. >> jackie, your take? >> i disagree with mark. but there is a risk in the general. you can republicans are hitting their dvrs. they may not be as keane on the president right now.
>> she has to get there. >> that's true. >> let's look at another exchange again. it deals with the issue going forward. looking at more diverse states. they both talk about criminal justice reform. let's listen. >> at the end of my first term as president, we will not have more people in jail than any other country. we will invest in education and jobs for our kids, not incarceration and more jails. >> it's going to be my responsibility to make sure we move forward to solve these problems that are now "out in the open". nobody can deny them. we are going to enforce the law. we're going to change policing practices, incarceration practices, but er also going to emphasize education, jobs, and housing. >> jackie, you get the first bite this time. who won? >> when i was talk to go voters in new hampshire, you heard a lot of young people talking about how much they like bernie
sanders's take. we will have is to see at the end of the day. i think it may have been a draw. >> bring down incarceration rates. that's a wonderful plan. who won in that exchange? >> it is a draw. how do you get there? how do you stop situations like ferguson, baltimore, or what have you? it's obviously a bigger problem when it comes to the drug war right now and how incarceration rates are higher for african-americans in particular. it is the whole idea of income in equality. last night's debate, almost every answer that bernie sanders had had to do with income in equality, leads to more policing, incarceration rates. >> sometimes the "spectre" hovers over the stage. last night it was henry kissinger. listen to this.
>> well, i know journalists have asked who you do listen to on foreign policy. we have yet to know who that is. >> well, it ain't henry kissinger, that's for sure. >> that's fine. that's fine. >> sanders said he would never take any foreign policy advice from henry kissinger. mark, who won that one? >> bernie sanders's support is coming from young people. i don't know how many young people know who henry kissinger is. was he trying to reach out and grab the older voters who supported hillary clinton. that was his key word for judgment. >> this is the first time we heard them argue about the iraq war. this seemed to be an argument about vietnam all of a sudden on the debate stage. >> yeah. you can imagine there was a lot of googling going on last night. i would not be surprised if you hear this brought up in the
republican debate as a way to show maybe this democratic field is out of touch and not talking about things that matter to this generation. >> mark, wasn't the point that bernie sanders was trying to make, he thinks hillary clinton is too hawkish. by invoking henry kissinger. >> a dog whistle. they look back and vietnam and say we don't want to go through this again. he was saying iraq without actually saying iraq. >> the last give and take. >> never a dull line. if you supported bernie sanders, you came out supporting bernie sanders. and the same for hillary supporters. i don't know that anyone really got the edge out of last night. >> mark, jackie, great to get your snap analysis this morning. great to see you. >> thank you. oil prices are plunging.
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revolution. oil prices collapsed with no drop in demand at all. it was a productivity revolution. it is all technology. >> this is what we had hoped would happen. more domestic production. >> right. >> so is what's the problem? >> the world is awash in oil. there's so much oil out there it is everywhere. banks have bankrolled some of the technologies and are looking at investments and say, uh-oh, it means oil producers are losing money. hundreds of dollars in their wallets. $2 gas. $2.50 gas. it's here. it's here. >> sometimes lower. >> i see $1.11 in oklahoma this week. for someone filling up their tank, it acts as a tax cut. for someone watching their 401(k), it hurts.
because the stock market is taking a hit with it. >> that's the silver lining. do you agree with that? >> yeah. kind of. it's nice to have part of our essential gasoline budget cut to allocate to other things. it doesn't give consumers more money to spend. it allows you to spend it in different places. in terms of overall economic growth and getting america growing again, it doesn't make any difference. >> donald, is there a larger consequence? there is more money in our wallets. if we're not spending $4 on gasper gallon, there is more money in our wallets. what about the larger international ripple effect? >> the international ripple effects are terrible wild cards in this deck. america is a large oil producer. we are up against oil-producing
giants like russia and saudi arabia. these are whole countries that are basically just oil companies organized as cups. in the case of russia, they have 2,600 nuclear weapons. if their pain and agony, if oil goes down to 10, you get a guy like vladimir putin needs to prop up his popularity in the polls, god knows what could happen. that is the worst case skin narrow. >> the politics are just fascinating, especially in an election year. you have saudi arabia pumping crude, pumping crude trying to keep its market share. and the united states has all of these still trying to pump all of this oil. the politics of cheap oil are so fascinating. when you hear people talk about $20 crude or the fact that there is no floor at this level, the actual barrel that the oil is in cost more than the commodity inside of it. imagine how crazy that is and
how quickly this has happened. the oil crash. from $100 a barrel down to the $20s. i'm sure people have been making money all along the way and speculators pushing on the gas, pun intended. but when it turns out, if it turns out, it could be just as volatile. >> to come full circle here, this is what we wanted. we wanted to rely on domestic production. so what is the answer in terms of the in stability? >> the instability is mostly financial. when oil was expensive, over $100, oil companies were able to borrow money from banks, leverage loans and these great technologies like fracking. now they can't repay the loans. now here in the u.s., we have very real issues of bank stability. it starts being that whiff of
2008. so we have to get through the financial aspects of this. that's capitalism. that all takes time. two or three years from now, oil will be trading permanently, under $20. we will never run out of oil. that's the great thing about fracking. there's shale everywhere. our great grandchildren will always have oil. that changes everything for the economy. it will be great in the long-term. >> christine, 10 seconds. do you agree with that assessment? >> i don't want to have a banking crisis. >> nobody wants a banking crisis. i'm hoping this part of the economy is a smaller hiccup than the housing crisis was and the comparisons to 2008 are overblown. >> thanks so much. over to john. bernie sanders blasting hillary
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he deserves. >> hillary clinton made one thing very clear during last night's debate, she stands with president obama. she mentions his name 21 times onstage. might have been 21 million if she had her way. the question, will it help her as much as needed moving forward in the election? the author of a now very discussed book calmed "buy's remorse" how obama let progressives down. and a bernie sanders is a povertier and also, a hillary clinton supporter, guys, thank you so much for being with us. two primaries last night that were interesting. the obama primary and the kissinger caucus we'll get to at the end of this. hillary, on the obama primary -- hillary clinton really seems to want to surround herself with as much of the obama aura as she can heading into nevada and south carolina. >> there's no question that republicans are going to try and
hang president obama around the democrats throat with dissatisfaction in the general. right as well get all she can out of it in the primary. president obama is extremely popular among democrats. here's the facts -- like bill's book, you know, bernie sanders, one assumes he agrees with what bill wrote in his book, and bernie said last night, haven't you ever disagreed with the president? but that's not the issue. what he's done actually is say, that the president has not been a good leader. he hasn't disagreed with him on policy. he's disagreed with him on a lot of style and bigger-picture issueshasn't been a good leader. says he'd be better on race relations than president obama. pretty big divides that he himself created. >> bill? >> first of all, the race relations, that question asked, some african-americans, i recall, the way the question was asked, some african-americans
even said they've been disappointed in president obama. whoever asked the question, gwen or judy. would you kind of work to improve them? the question first went to secretary clinton. she said she would and bernie said he would. i think both said they would continue -- >> he said he'd be better. >> -- if i may, on race relations. president obama has been a good president. i praise in my book all the good things he's done. bernie sanders hasn't agreed on issues. not personally at all. disagreed on tpp. but also every congressman in congress did and now hillary clinton it does. hillary clinton says she disagrees on the roundup and deportation program president obama has under way. in this country, criticizing the president is still okay. >> certainly aloud under the constitution. the question is, is it the right thing to do in a democratic primary? your book is called "buyer's
remorse: how obama let progressives down." you think president obama let progressives down. do you think bernie sanders feels this way? >> i do not speak for bernie sanders. espike for my book. senator sanders wrote a blurb for the book and doesn't even talk about president obama. he says, the next president, him or her, should do everything they can to rally people behind the progressive agenda and get it passed. harmless, says nothing at all about president obama. >> hillary, one thing i know, how much you argue about what he did or did not do for progressives, one thing, president obama will not be president after january 19th next year. he will be in the past. so how is surrounding yourself in president obama, how does that make the case for hillary clinton about what she'll do for the future? bernie sanders talks a lot about the future. isn't this inherently backwards looking by hillary clinton? >> well, there's two pieces here. the first is, she's sending a
signal that the accomplishments of the bvobama administration, things like passing health care reform, doing banking reform, that there's work to do, and that that's going to be her approach. what sanders is trying to sell, and more power to him, is those things haven't -- don't have the impact we need. we need to start over, start fresh, and think bigger. so what she's embracing, really, is, not just the past of president obama, but she's trying to convince people that she has the level of experience, thoughtfulness and legislative strategy to actually get things done. whereas, sanders, in my view, is really good at explaining the problems. i think he's much better at talking about the problems in this country and she's actually much better at talking about the solutions. maybe if the rehetoric joined we'd be in a united democratic
party. >> one more minute, remiss if we didn't talk about henry kissinger in the 2016 presidential race. explain the henry kissinger moment for me. hillary clinton likes henry kissinger, has talked to him. what do you get out of attacking hillary clinton or -- attack'sa" strong word. 40 years since he was secretary of state. >> i thought that was the weirdest part of the debate. talking about a man most people think is probably dead. right? and you know, what senator sanders, i believe, was trying to do, say judgment counts. right? you voted against the iraq war and you even now support -- or talked to this guy whom we remember for cambodia and for vietnam. >> you say, we remember. got to tell you, all vote -- many of them don't remember. the kids don't remember. >> that's the point. and i was surprise ed hillary clinton spent so much time
talking about henry kissinger. people either like him or hate him. not good to embrace. >> i agree with phil. >> thank you. appreciate it. what's your take on this? post your comment on facebook, a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. the kind of criticism that we've heard from senator sanders about our president, i expect from republicans. >> madam secretary, that is a low blow. >> let's not insult the intelligence of the american people. people aren't dumb. >> why in god's name does wall street make huge campaign contributions? >> once i'm in the white house, we will have enough political capital. >> secretary clinton, you're not in the white house yet. >> there is no one left in the republican field who has more experience than i have. >> don't listen to any of the campaign rhetoric. >> i won't use foul language. i'm just not going to do t. all
you're doing is trashing somebody else. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. a chilly sunrise over manhattan there. it's going to be a cold weekend. good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." it's friday, february 12th. 8:00 in the each. chris and michaela of off today. john berman joins me. >> you win the berman primary. >> so lucky! meanwhile, secretary clinton and bernie sanders whying the voters. who can best lead our country? clinton clashing with sanders for criticizing president obama instead of embracing him. >> on the republican side, donald trump, not really playing so nice after promising to play nice. the republican field getting ready for their next debate. that is tomorrow night. cnn senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is live in milwaukee with the news from the democratic debate. jeff?
>> reporter: good morning, john. this democratic debate opened up the next phase of this primary campaign. hillary clinton tried to serve as a reality check to bernie sanders's aspirations. the third man on the field actually not present was president obama. hillary clinton tried to hug him tighter than ever before. but in a possible sign of things to come as this race moves towards south carolina, bernie sanders perhaps had one of the most memorable lines of the night. he said, he's not the one who ran against him last time. a civil but contentious night for bernie sanders and hillary clinton. side-by-side onstage for the first time since sanders upending fight in iowa. hillary clinton saying she is the rightful heir to president obama. >> today senator sanders said that president obama failed the presidential leadership test and this is not the first time that he has criticized president obama. in the past called him weak,
called him a disappointment. >> reporter: a message for democratic voters of south carolina. more than half of whom are african-american and widely adore the president. >> the kind of criticism that we've heard from senator sanders about our president, i expect from republicans. i do not expect from someone running for the democratic nomination to succeed president obama. >> that is -- madam secretary, that is a low blow. last i heard, a united senator had the right to disagree with the president, including a president who's done such an extraordinary job. >> one of us ran against barack obama. i was not that candidate. >> sanders had the final word, but it opened a new chapter in the democratic duel that may be just beginning. that the pbs debate exposed deeper lines in policy and political differences, on health care, immigration and wall street reform. clinton presented herself as the keeper of obama legacy. >> before it was called obama
care it was called hillary care. >> reporter: if elected, sanders said rates relations would be better in his administration. >> absolutely. instead of giving tax breaks to billionaires, we are going to create millions of jobs for low-income kids so they're not hanging out on street corners. >> reporter: another flashpoint, money in politics. clinton, again, tied herself to obama and rejected the suggestion she would be swayed by campaign donations. >> so let's not in any way imply here that either president obama or myself would in any way not take on any vested interest, whether it's wall street or drug companies or insurance companies or, frankly, the gun lobby -- >> let's not insult the intelligence of the american people. people aren't dumb. why in god's name does wall street make huge campaign contributions? i guess just for the fun of it. they want to throw money around. >> reporter: sanders ran strong
among women in new hampshire. clinton was asked why. >> i'm not asking people to support me because i'm a woman. i'm asking people to support me, because i think i'm the most qualified, experienced and ready person to be the president and the commander in chief. >> reporter: on foreign policy, sanders took a new approach in questioning clinton's judgment calling out her admiration for henry kissinger. >> i am proud to say that henry kissinger is not my friend. i will not take advice from henry kissinger. >> i know journalists have asked who you do listen to on foreign policy and we have yet to know who it is. >> well, it ain't henry kissinger. that's for sure. >> that's fine. let's bring in senior advisor to the bernie sanders campaign, tad divine. that's for being with us. last time i saw you, morning of the new hampshire primary. you were hoping for a big night. you got it. so congratulations there. >> thank you, john. great to be with you. >> one word answer. i take you, you think you won
last night's debate? >> well, every campaign always says they won. bernie had a great night, got his message out. he hasn't run for president before, is new to the national stage. to have these opportunities for people to hear him and his message is great for us. >> hillary clinton was talking a lot about president obama last night and who the best candidate to carry on the obama legacy would be. how do you, how does bernie sanders convince voters, that he is the most obama-like candidate running right now? >> well, you know, i don't know if that's going to be the in rust -of-thrust of our campaign. our nation was losing 800,000 job as month on the day president obama was inaugurated. involved in two foreign wars. a war in iraq brns aernie sanded barack obama both opposed but barack obama had to deal with. he's vsupportive of obama and hs
policies. the president is very popular. what bernie sanders wants to do is deal with a rigged economy that sends almost all the new wealth to the top, held in place by a corrupt system of contributions. >> do you concede, then, the y case she making? the most direct connection to the obama administration. >> she served in the obama administration pap strong connection. bernie sanders has strongly supported the president but differences on policies. trade policies. bernie opposed not just the trans-pacific partnership trade agreement. hillary supported it, in this campaign turn eed against it. also a number of trade policies going back to nafta, permanent normal relationships with china. bernie sanders believe they are written by corporate america, lose american jobs, shut down
factory across the country and have disagreements on policies. as to supporting the president as suggested by hillary that bernie's been opposed to the president and worked against him, that's simply not true. >> you do not even think the question who would do more to continue the obama legacy, you don't think that's what this election is about? >> no. what we think the election is about is dealing with the problem holding back the middle class and destroying the middle class of america for decades. which is the fact that this economy is rigged. the economic system in america is making a few people extremely wealthy, and it's causing millions of people to fall behind. bernie sanders offered a series of proposals. whether it's universal college education, health care for all. massive investment in infrastructure to create 13 million jobs that will revitalize our economy and rebuild the middle class. it's just a different set of policies. the only reason he can make such an ambitious agenda available to the american people is because barack obama has cleaned up the mess of the last republican
administration. now we can look forward with a much bolder set of policies. hillary clinton's policies are limited in scope and american people want were big change and why they're coming to bernie in such large numbers. >> let me ask you about a moment not on the debate stage. hillary clinton won the endorsement of the political black caucus and a member of congress, john lewis, civil rights icon, who spoke and talked about bernie sanders and bernie sanders' connection, perhaps, to the civil rights, in stark language. listen to what the congressman said. >> i never saw him. i never met him. i'm a chair of the student non-violent coordinating committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. i was involved in the sit-ins, the freedom ride, the march on washington, the march from selma to montgomery, and directed the voter education project for six years. but i met hillary clinton.
i met president clinton. >> what's your reaction to that? that's a pretty blunt statement from a guy who has got serious credentials in the civil rights community, says of bernie sanders, i never met him but i did meet bill clinton and hillary clinton? >> my reaction is that john lewis is a hero, in the civil rights movement, and i'm not surprised that bernie sanders and he did not meet. bernie sanders was very active in the congress for racial quality at the university of chicago. he led sit-ins there. arrested protesting the housing policy of his own university. he came to washington when dr. king was there. yes, they didn't meet, but i don't think that in any way diminishes the effort of bernie sanders and hundreds of thousands of other young people who participated in the civil rights movements in the '60s didn't meet but bernie's life and direction of hit life and commit was shaped during those college years. we're very proud of bernie's record, not just as a college student but everything he did in this political dreier advance the cause of civil rights and
equal rights. >> was it a fair comment from congressman lewis? a cheap shot? >> listen, i'm not going -- i think congressman lewis has the right to say whatever he wants. he's earned that. i think bernie sanders is someone who's also earned a place in the struggle for equality in america. ands policies he's advances to promote racial justice in america i think are on the cutting edge of the fight. he's made it very clear of that. and as a result we've earned support from a lot of people including erica garner, the daughter of eric garner, murdered. a lot of people, harry belafonte, danny glover. a number of people well-known in the african-american community. great people, state representatives in south carolina who endorsed him. listen, job lewis has a right to express his opinions, he's earned that, but bernie sanders has also, i think, very strong views to move the cause of equality forward in america. that's a big part of what the campaign is about and a big reason he ran for president.
>> on to nevada and on to south carolina. great to see you. thanks so much. >> thank you, john. >> alisyn. donald trump, not yet embracing that new positive campaign promise. the gop front-runner slamming rivals ted cruz and jeb bush on twit around at his latest rally. cnn political reporter is live in new orleans with all the very latest. hi, sara. >> reporter: hi, alisyn. look, the trump campaign said they were ready to play nice. pulled down a negative ad against ted cruz in south carolina and instead put up a more positive spot they helped-ohelp e thought helped boost them in new hampshire. >> it's really
cool to hear him speak the truth. >> sounds like it is. >> make america great. >> a guy, trump is speaking the truth. >> he wants to make america great. that's what i want, too. >> we have a -- >> reporter: now, as soon as the trump campaign pulled this ad, put up the new one, they said, look, we're not promising we're not going negative at all. apparently that positivity was
brief because that rally in louisiana, trump went after a number of rivals attacks him in recent days, and
he kept it up on twitter. particularly going after ted cruz. he said, lying cruz put out a statement, trump and rubio of with obama on gay marriage. cruz is the worst liar, crazy or very dishonest. perhaps all three. so it's clear, at least, this positivity message was short-lived for donald trump, but there are still other candidates trying to keep a sunny message on the campaign trail, and one of them is john kasich, who, of course, came in second in new hampshire, and now he is up with two new ads in south carolina. including one about his faith, making a pitch right to the south carolina evangelical vote es. take a listen. >> my father was a postman, told me, johnny, you stand on your own two feet, you go out there and you change the world. my parents were killed by a drunk driver, but my parents did not die in vain. i was transformed. i discovered my purpose by discovering the lord.
i believe the lord put us on this earth to use the gifts that we've been given to bring about a healing, and that's the motivation for me. >> reporter: now, as the race shifts to south carolina a jam-packed
week already and next week just as busy. george w. bush is expected to join jeb bush on the campaign trail and donald trump already had snarky comments to make about that. we'll see how that all plays out on monday. back to you, john. >> sara, thanks so much. soberi reacheder, five polie officers killed across the nation in one week. two of those officers killed thursday near atlanta. major greg barney shot serving a warrant. barney was a 25-year veteran of the police department. a few hours earlier in fargo, north dakota, officer jason mosier was killed during a standoff with a domestic violence suspect. mosier leaves behind a wife and two children. our thoughts of with them this morning. the world health organization announcing a timetable in a race to find a
vaccine for the zika virus. 15 groups already at work finding that, any large-scale trial remains at least 18 months away. w.h.o. saying a firm link between the ma skate oh-borne virus and a birth defect in newborns is looking more probable. definitive proof remains from weeks to a few months away. all right. we need to laugh this morning. democrats faced tough questions at the debate, republican candidates were roasted on "late night." watch. >> a new poll released this week shows that two-thirds of canadians fear a donald trump presidency. especially one canadian in particular. and -- [ applause ] >> ben cars sn in the news. ben carson said he's open to being donald trump's vice president. open to it. yeah. yeah. yeah. makes sense. carson could deliver trump the black republican vote, which consists of ben carson. >> marco rubio revealed he
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south carolina is renowned for being a ruthless primary state, as you recall from years' past, john, leading republican candidates are already accusing each other of dirty tricks there. the top five gop hopefuls out of the new hampshire primary will face-off in a debate tomorrow night, and former president george w. bush is set to hit the campaign trail with his brother next week. a lot to talk about and here to discuss it all, cnn political common dater michael smerconish. >> good morning. >> let's look forward. shall we? >> sure. >> what are you paying attention to today ahead of tomorrow night's debate? >> the whole w factor. i find it fascinating and a debate, does this help or hurt jeb secure the nomination? >> a big debate to me a no-brain perp take jeb out of the equation and leave in the rates rubio and kasich.
and now offer each of them the endorsement of w. do they want it? i think they want it in south carolina because south carolina has a variety of constituencies, tea party, evangelical, retiree. a military constituency. as i look at it, w. gives you a couple ticket punches, particularly among the military community and the evangelical community. yes, you take it. >> and ted cruz wouldn't want it in south carolina and donald trump is already talking about what he's going to do after george w. bush gets out there for jeb. listen to what donald trump is saying about w. lately. >> now he's bringing in his brother. i won't say anything. i'm going to save that for after his brother makes a statement, because there's plenty to say what happened especially that last three months. >> i don't want jeb bush to say,
my brother kept us safe, because september 11th was one of the worst days in the history of this country. >> you know it could be a win-win for both people. it could be a win for donald trump, because it gives him something to beat up on and could be a win for jeb bush and a lot of it depend, michael, on what george w. bush we see. we just don't know who's going to come out monday night. >> and he hasn't been out on the trail for a while. i remember the whole bernie/hillary thing. bernie really doesn't pose a threat to her but she needs a tune-up. is w. in fighting shape to play politics in south carolina? to your initial point does it benefit trump at the same time, it probably does, because there are two primaries within the republican gop primary in south carolina. there's cruz, and there's the donald. i really think that ben carson is a non-entity at this stage and the three establishment candidates. and a trump falter does not necessarily benefit one of the establishment candidates.
it dbenefits cruz. i'm constantly an vidsing what's going on in the stage and looking at it in distinctly opposite lanes. >> in tomorrow night's debate who should we keep an eye on? rubio? john kasich? jeb bush? a lot of people have changed their personality a little since the last one? >> chatting with bob beckel in the green room about this issue. rubio, the debate is, is he done? what's the extent of the damage here? because i think there's going to be such a microscopic analysis of everything that he says, scrutinizing of the transcripts. it's probably unfair to him, at some stage, but if he rebates something, well, there he goes again. it's going to follow him. that issue. >> it will, but he -- up until last saturday, he was seen as such a great debater. you would think he can go out there and -- >> i've heard from an increasing number of radio callers recently that they admire his family's story, but now they're at the point of saying, we've heard it
too many times and what does it real to do with his credentials to be president? makes you feel good about being an american. right? the whole horatio bootstrap thing, but what really does it say about his fitness for office? not much. >> talk about john kasich. he's siphoned off a big donor from chris christie. so ken langone, found every of home depot endorsing john kasich, big deal? not big deal? >> i don't know if he's known for writing big checks but known for helping other doernnors. would rather have him than not. kasich came out of new hampshire with what bush would have called big mo. this parenthood issue, playing out with him this week in defunding them, all of a sudden that will rattle the cage of independents and moderates who think, kasich could be one of us. >> that will play, the fact he's
fighting planned parenthood helping? >> in the short-term in south carolina. looking for to illinois, michigan, ohio, eventually pennsylvania, all states i know he's got lined up in that win column, i'm not sure how it plays there. >> also gives him confidence. he knows he's going to stick around a long time and funded theoretically a long time now. do you think jeb bush and marco rubio look at them on that debate stage and say, an easy target in south carolina. let's score some points? >> they look at him and try and go after him. i beg to disagree he's an easy target. i'm a sucker for the type of pitch that he is making. that my cards are on the table. i find that that compassionate conservatism plays and that his tone distinguishes himself from the rest of that pack. this is a guy who can win a general election. if practicality, who could win the white house against hillary or bernie, he's the one. >> the charge against him, the
kind of republican liberals like or the kind moderates like in your case, not the kind of republican that conservatives like? >> he's got issues, you know, with the angry talk community. there's no doubt about that. he's a republican who has governed as a conservative and he's from ohio. what more do you need to know? >> michael smerconish, on that note, thank you for telling us everything we need to know today. have a great weekend. our turn to the democrats. hillary clinton rerched president obama 21 times. what's that strategy about? is there a risk behind it? we'll break that down.
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i am a staunch supporter of president obama's principle accomplishment, namely, the affordable care act. i think under president obama we have seen a lot of advances. >> i strongly support the president's executive actions. >> i understand what president obama inherited. i don't think he gets the credit he deserves.
that was hillary clinton embracing president obama during the democratic debate last night saying his name 21 times throughout the night. will this strategy work? let's bring in cnn political commentator and democratic strategist bob beckel. hi, bob. >> hey. >> so some feel this is a new-found embrace of president obama. calculated to happen right before south carolina and nevada. your take? >> somebody would be that -- i'm shocked. >> i know. >> as if -- and the flint trip not politically motivated. listen, that's what you do. you're about to go into the black belt of men politics and of course you want to embrace barack obama. i think the idea barack obama is a huge albatross around the democrats' neck is wrong. history will treat him well. jobs ratings 50/50 now. about a 10-point spread before. >> that would be good. george w. bush, way, way below that. it's a much different ball game right now. >> sure.
>> for hillary clinton to do this now, though. you've been in many campaigns where you've made changes, adjusted mid-stream. can she adjust quickly enough to do what she needs to do? >> oh, yeah. her problem, or -- i mean, i don't know what's going to happen with the fbi and her e-mails, but if you take that out of the equation, bernie sanders rode sanders' road to the nomination is so narrow. like balancing on a gymnast bar of two inches. has to wade himself through to get to the midwest. the idea he'll make a big dent with the black voters, they don't know him, and bill clinton, whatever else you think about him, he is considered to be the first black president. remember that? >> yes. >> tony morrison. >> yeah. >> bob, you're talking abouta w. that hillary clinton has a longer track record with african-american voters and
bernie sanders is a johnny come lately. nothing is working. with his grass roots, appeal to young people will that still hold true what you're saying? >> yeah, i do, because so much of the black vote in the south is, is dictated by the pulpit. you know? it always has been, and the clintons have wrapped that up a long time ago. to try to get into south carolina in two weeks and introduce yourself to the black community, i think it will do better than people think he'll do. the problem is, of course, young people, particularly among young african-americans don't vote that much. give sanders credit. imagine -- just think about this. we have two, close front-runners. bernie sanders and donald trump? i've been in politics 33 years. this is the strangest i've seen. >> talking about strange. a strange bump in the road on the way to south carolina, the state of nevada. the nevada caucuses, a weird
animal, bob, in politics. >> they are. >> first of all, a caucus, a relatively new thing. no one really knows how to run there successfully. talking to people and the ground, look, bernie may not be ale to win but is making in-roads. he is going to be able to compete in nevada. >> he's got a much better opportunity to, to break into the hispanic community than he would in the black community, for example. they are relatively a new voting block. growing in huge numbers. and bernie is -- has been pretty good with hispanic voters, but, you know, the fact is, that the republicans, i can't believe it, but they continue to dish up this vote to the democrats. hispanic ought to be -- george bush got 44% because they are military oriented, family oriented, all things voters talk about and now calling them wetbacks and drive them away. bernie's got an opportunity there, sure, and also got some help with labor. some of the -- the smaller labor
unions will help him. caucuses are strange things and clinton didn't do a good job with caucuses in '98. maybe they've learned their lesson. >> let's talk about white people. >> talk about white people. >> there seem to be so much addressing of the african-american community. so is it important to talk about the white community in south carolina or nevada? or are they less of a factor? >> no. i think, where is this rage coming from? if you look at it, it's mostly among working class whites and their families. and so -- i'm a little surprised, frankly, that hillary clinton did not adapt herself to that very well. bern hi it from the beginning. but, you know -- >> you don't think she's tapping into the anger people are feeling? not harnessed? >> she is not a soaring rhetoric candidate. she's a good candidate, but, you know, her husband was the one who could do that in the family, and bern lay got -- this young people thing is phenomenal.
i was up in new hampshire and iowa, both, and he'll continue to have that, and the other thing is, they're turning out. normally millennials, who really will hold the balance of, in the next three decades of american politic, the millennials, a large generation in history, who are breaking for bernie big time now, and turning out. which surprised me. >> how does she make in-roads then? talking about working class whites, i think what you talked about before, a distinct thing from young people. how does she make in-roads with working class whites? >> a tough one. can you do it rhetorically. stand there and emphasize with them and understand them very well, empathize, but i'm not sure she's suited for that. people talk her being hard edged and don't trust her. ever since she's been in public life she's been under attack, under attack. they gets to a very defensive point and not somebody -- one
moment talking about some woman last night in the that debate, quite moving to me, but the other thing about hillary, she's a much better come-from-behind candidate. being a front-runner wire to wire is tough to do. >> 22 points in new hampshire. can now come from behind. >> new hampshire, those of us through there, never want to go through it again. nice place, but at some point we have to ask ourselves, iowa, new hampshire, representative of getting this whole things kicked off. >> revoke your passport. you won't be allowed back. >> that's fine. >> great to have you. >> thank you. much more on how the crucial minority vote is to hillary clinton or bernie sanders and why it matters in the nevada caucus. that's ahead.
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clinton went toe to toe, head to head during last night's debate tackling several issue including race for a lot of the debate, discussing race. joining us now to discuss is charles blow, cnn political commentator who wrote an interesting piece recently called "stop bernie splaining to black voters." let me ask you, explain what that means? blow-plain us. >> absolutely right. bernie is a great advocator fo e himself, but people who support him have a really hard time unding why other people don't, and that can quickly dissolve into condensation in some cases. that hurts bernie the candidate more than if you were not to do that and to respect the fact that people come to their political knowledge collectively with histories and sensibilities and cultural sensibilities. they're simply differ and it's
not about that he's a bad candidate that they may not support him, just that there's a different history and maybe -- you know, bernie may be idealistic. a lot of black people have adopted a kind of functional pragmatism, having been disappointed by both parties for a very long time, that it is a very pragmatic sensibility that they bring to the voting booth and that may not necessarily always align with bernie's idealism. >> you think bernie sanders supporters are talking down to black voters? >> not all. >> some? >> there are some. >> can you give an example? what does that sound like? >> for me it sounds like, i get a lot of kind of this on social media. for me it sounds like, well, once black voters are more educated about who he is and about what he's done and about what -- and i'm thinking, this idea that you feel like you have to educate them, that they are not necessarily politically
savvy enough, that there is not enough kind of institutional knowledge in the black community to be able to understand when something sounds too good to be true, that is a condescension on to stechl aitself and you have that is there a similar ko condescension in hillary clinton's campaign. and they should be with hillary clinton now because barack obama is the first black president. >> a problem to set it up as an either/or. most voters don't look at it that way. a lot of clinton's campaign is threatening to black voters. it is more an issue, which of these people is, is offering something that i think is more
realistic and will not hurt me? but will, in fact, help my situation or help me maintain what i now have? i think it is a very practical decision that people bring in general. trying not to generalize too much, but kind of the question, but in general, bring it to that voting booth. >> do you think that hillary clinton's embrace of barack obama as we've heard her do more so in the past week, is too late? is it -- what's the timing, to you? >> i don't necessarily think it's too late. i do believe that clintons have built a tremendous number of relationships in the black community over a long period of time. that does not negate all the negatives that the clintons bring to the black community and that has to be always stated, including that horrific crime bill that bill clinton -- but people are weighing that, and there's a familiarity with the clintons that does not exist with bernie sanders. he's been in the northeast his entire career. he's been in d.c., but he's from
vermont. those relationships simply do not exist. they lived in arkansas. there are a lot of southern relationships built over a very long time, and the south is still where most black people live. >> changing subjects here, charles. you also talked a lot about the oscars and the whiteout at the oscars. meryl streep made a comment. >> at the berlin film festival. she says, i've played a lot of different people from a lot of different cultures. there is a core of humanity that travels right through every culture and after all, we're all from africa retchly. b recently. berliners, we're all africans, really. >> responding to the t-shirts they wore. >> what did those say? >> something about like -- i forget what the -- it was kind of racially insensitive. i forget what the actual thing was on the t-shirt, but this is kind of a convenient excuse. responding with that, what was
on the t-shirt at this festival and trying to deflect it. now it is true that originally we are all african, but we are not simply going to skip over that whole white sue prsue presentee. meryl, i love you to death but we're not skipping over that because of those t-shirt. >> isn't she saying we're all in this together? >> no. trying to get over the fact they were wearing those t-shirts and make that sound okay. no, there are sensibilities built on real things and a real history. i'm sorry. there's a problem there. >> charles blow, always great to have you here this morning. what is your take, everybody? tweet us at "new day" or post oncomment on facebook.com/newday. two days after the san bernardino attacks. hearing more about the dramatic shoot-out that ended it all.
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attacked a community center. an officer who never fired his weapon before in the line of duty. cnn spoke with that officer. >> you can see office with long guns here. >> i saw the muzzle flashes and thought, they're shooting at me. >> reporter: four hours after the terror attack in san bernardino, redman's police sergeant was the lead patrol car in the shoot-out with the attackers. the sergeant had spent most of his day chasing down false leads, until an undercover officer waved in his car to pursue the black suv. >> i was able to get in behind them and saw them putting on what i believe to be ballistic, or bullet-proof vests. they started shooting the back window of their vehicle, just shattered. >> reporter: his suv just feet away from isis sympathizers malik and farouk. >> i grabbed the rifle and ran as fast as i could.
scrambled from the front to the back of the car. >> reporter: the sergeant crouched at the corner of his suv as other officers ran up. >> back eastbound chasing on foot. >> reporter: 24 years a cop, he had never shot his weapon on the job before. no fear? >> no fear. >> reporter: even as farouk got out of his suv firing. >> this was a very, very graphic shoot-out. >> during this fight i heard off to my left somebody yell, an officer's down. officer down. >> reporter: san bernardino police officer nicklaus kawau took a bullet to the leg. >> i've seen footage of the officers running up to my vehicle with bullets flying by them, running up to get in and help. unbelievable. >> reporter: the two terrorists who murdered 14 incident people in san bernardino died in the five-minute shoot-out. when it was over, the sergeant realized, no cop had died that day. tell me about the text you got on your phone. >> this is hard to talk about.
well, that's when i realized how badly that coup have ended. for me and for my family. and then -- you make that leap, and for all of these other people and for their families. >> reporter: was the risk worth it? your personal risk? >> without a doubt. >> reporter: would you do it again? >> in a heartbeat. but hopefully i won't have to. >> reporter: for cnn, redlands, california. >> what a hero. i love these stories that we tell every friday. >> but it's also -- you have to struggle with that and live with it also, even when you are a hero. something you have to come to terms with and it take as long, long time. you can see him working through it. >> absolutely. you can see how emotional he is. we should remind everyone, five police officers across the country shot this week. it is a dangerous -- and killed -- dangerous, dangerous job they do for us every day. these friday series are so important. >> thanks to them and their families. >> thanks to you, john berman, for being here.
have a great -- you're happy now it's over? i can see? >> i am. another show at 11:00. don't miss that one. time for "newsroom" with carol costello. have a great weekend. >> thanks so much. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," clinton ties herself to the president. >> i think president obama has set a great example. >> before it was called obama care it was called hillary care. >> and excludes sanders from the circle. >> senator sanders said that president obama failed the presidential leadership test. >> but the vermont senator has a reminder -- >> secretary clinton, you're not in the white house yet. also, donald trump, mr. nice guy? >> to have children screaming, we want trump, that's very nice. >> a change in tone. >> i won't use foul language. i'm just not going to do it. >> a shift in ad strategy. can the front-runner remain positive?