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happening now in the newsroom, the president unleashes. first a supreme scolding. >> i intend to do my job between now and january 20th of 2017 and i expect them to do their job as well. >> next up the gop front runner. >> i continue to believe mr. trump will not be president. >> trump launching his own attacks. >> president obama hasn't done a damn thing. >> and tonight will trump take even more hits at cnn's town hall? plus the fbi says it needs apple's help hacking a san bernardino shooter's phone. >> we still have one of those killer's phobes that we have not
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been able to open. >> why apple is calling the judge's orders dangerous. let's talk live in the cnn newsroom. >> thank you so much for joining me. we are just hours away. republicans on one stage for big cnn town hall answering questions from voters in south carolina. the candidates will be split tonight and tomorrow and cnn's anderson cooper will moderate both nights. all of this on the heels of brand new cnn poll showing donald trump holding a commanding lead in nevada with 45% of the vote and in south carolina cnn polls showing trump topping 16 points over ted cruz. but strong numbers not convincing president obama he's going to be the next commander in chief. the president targeting trump in his latest press conference and as you can expect mr. trump is firing back. live with more good morning. >> reporter: good morning.
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donald trump is firing back and we've been witnessing an all out brawl among the gop candidates for that about half of south carolina voters that our poll shows are still making up their minds. now you have president obama jumping in throwing some of his own punches. >> i continue to believe mr. trump will not be president. >> weighing in just days before the south carolina primary, president obama confident donald trump won't win the white house. i have a lot of faith in the american people. and i think they recognize that being president is a serious job. it is not hosting a talk show. or a reality show. >> obama blasting the billionaire saying trump panders and lacks even basic foreign policy knowledge. >> it requires being able to work with leaders around the world in a way that reflects the importance of the office. and gives people confidence that you know the facts. and you know their names.
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and you know where they are on a map. and you know something about their history. and you are not just going to play to the crowd back home. >> not one to keep quiet -- >> he has done such a lousy job as president. >> -- the gop front runner shot back an hour later. >> look at our budget, look at our spending, we can't beat isis. obamacare is terrible. you are lucky i didn't run last time when romney ran because you would have been a one term president. >> reporter: but obama didn't contain his criticism to trump. his rivals were hit too. >> if you look at what the other republican candidates have said, that's pretty troubling too. >> the president specifically calling out marco rubio for his previous support of an immigration bill back in 2013. >> you have a candidate who sponsored a bill, that i supported, to finally solve the immigration problem and he's running away from it as fast as
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he can. >> now we could get a response to all this from marco rubio at his event that is getting under way this hour in mount pleasant not far from here. but trump was already tweeting this morning saying interesting how president obama said i would never be president. this from perhaps the worst president in u.s. history. meanwhile jeb bush is getting some trouble for a tweet and photo of a handgun engraved with his name. the caption to the tweet? america. >> live from south carolina this morning. one likely focus at tonight's town hall the partisan showed enen over the supreme court vacancy. president obama acknowledging the high stakes and the bitter fight ahead. >> the court is now divided on many issues. this would be a deciding vote.
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and there are a lot of republican senators who are going to be under a lot of pressure from various special interests and various constituencies. and many of their voters to not let any nominee go through. no matter who i nominate. >> cnn's chris frates at the white house with more. >> so president obama said yesterday no matter who he nominates, they will be indisputably qualified. and despite the whole election year slug fest between senate republicans and democrat, president obama made his expectations clear. he said he's going to do his job and nominate a replacement. he expects the senate will do theirs and vote on one. >> the constitution is pretty clear about what is supposed to happen now. >> reporter: president obama again vowing to nominate a replacement for justice scalia, lashing out at republicans who say the next president should fill the seat.
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>> this will be the opportunity for senators to do their job. your job doesn't stop until you are voted out. or until your term expires. >> and in comments about the battle brewing, obama said the vacancy shouldn't get caught in the cross-hairs of partisan politics. >> i intend to nominate someone to present them to the american people, to present them to the senate, i expect them to hold hearings. i expect there to be a vote. i'm amused when i hear people who claim to be strict interpreters of the constitution suddenly reading into it a whole series of provisions that are not there. >> senate judiciary chairman chuck grassley telling iowa radio he hasn't decided if his committee will hold hearings for the president's nominee. >> i would wait until the nominee is made before i make any decisions, in other words take it a step at the time. >> but most senate republicans are toeing the party line,
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promising to delay until after the election. >> there is no doubt that by following what mitch mcconnell, our leader, republican leader, has said that we are not going to bring this nominee up this year, he's doing exactly what harry reid would do if he were in the majority at this time. >> the democrats are crying and moaning and groaning. highly hip criticypocriticahypo. >> even as his chair on the bench is draped in black to hooner him, the political battle to replace him rages on. >> live from washington this morning. with me now to talk about all of this. director of the university of new hampshire survey center andy smith. i'm also joined by cnn political analyst and editor of the daily
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beast john avalon. good morning. so trump is leading big in south carolina. a state that usually votes for establishment candidates. how do you stop trump if he wins in south carolina? >> very difficult. i think the role that trump is on right now has always been difficult to stop. momentum in the early primary states is very important. however we have had the incidents of 2012, where the establishment didn't really do so well. remember back then newt gingrich was able to win south carolina and win fairly convincingly there. he got about 40% of the vote back in 2012. so, you know, it happens that local conditions can occur. but the problem that i see with south carolina this time around for establishment republicans if they want to try to stop trump is they still have three candidates dividing the vote between the three kasich, rubio and bush. you are only at about 34% of the vote compared to trump's 45.
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so you still fall short. >> interesting. i want to go back to the polls for a second. trump is ahead in nevada too by a large margin. then it is on to super tuesday. o if the republican establishment really does not want trump as the nominee what is the next step? >> well there is no formal back room process for culling the herd, carol. and the point the professor just made is that even if you add up in south carolina, which is a conservative populaced evangelical state with a strong military presence. trump support right now because he's a celebrity demagogue with high name id and does very well on issues like the economy and immigration. is transcending the usual lanes and divisions in the republican party. and while yes if the process win knows down. if jeb bush doesn't do well in south carolina he's toast.
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but it is unclear that kasich can actually command support. and rubio's three two one strategy looks more like three five three four. so you have real problems right now in the establishment lane. trump is sucking up all of the oxygen in the race. >> let's look at the democratic side. clinton is up 18 points over sanders in south carolina. but in nevada the two are running neck and neck. what does that tell you? >> tells me first off nevada is next for the democrats. we've been concentrating on south carolina for the republicans. but it is a caucus state in nevada. organization matters, getting the support of some of the unions there who tend to be more progressive unions. this is a spot where sanders could do quite well. we talked about momentum with trump. momentum with sanders is definitely there and if he's able to win nevada, it would be a boost for him going into south carolina next week.
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>> go ahead john. >> this new cnn poll is fascinating out of nevada and causing nervousness at the clinton headquarters. it was supposed to be the first firewall. organized for hillary clinton last time around and did very well. she had almost 20 point lead in the recent polls. her support has dimmed a bit but bernie sanders has surged. some of the key unions in the stage that can play disproportionate impact have not endorsed. two he's doing very well with first time voters. unclear whether they will turn out in caucus and the one issue he beets hillary clinton on is who can best solve the problems of the middle class. while hillary clinton has tried to say she represents the concerns of the middle class bernie sanders' economic argument is winning the day. and she needs to shore up support to stem the bleeding. >> so everyone outside of the news world comes up to me and says do you know what? we think it is going to be trump
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versus sanders. is that a real possibility now? >> i think it is a real possibility but important to point out that a lot of voters haven't decided. in nevada you can see about 38% of democrats say they haven't firmly decided yet. and in south carolina it is only about half of republicans say they firmly decided. so there is still movement here. but that said if the trend continues as it is right now, with momentum both behind trump and behind sanders, we k0u8d very well see a trump/sanders final in november. one thing on the democrat side is they do have far more superdelegates there that can kind of balance the support that sanders is getting from the -- and the rank and file voters. it will be fascinating to see the politics that go into using the super delegates if it comes to that. >> yes it's already become a line of contention. i have to leave it there. thanks so much.
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a judge is ordering apple to help the fbi break into a cell phone that belonged to one of the san bernardino shooters. a move apple's ceo calls unprecedented and a threat to the security of customers. last december you remember saeed rizwan farook and his wife killed 14 people in a san bernardino terror attack. authorities recovered farook's iphone but couldn't access it because they don't know his password. apple ceo called the order by the fbi to help them break into the phone an overreach. >> well carol, what's at issue here is a feature on this iphone
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5 c that was owned by the san bernardino county health department. and saeed farook was an employee there and he had the phone in his car. the phone has a feature that if you enter the password incorrectly ten times it immediately erases the data. and that is what the fbi is asking apple to help. to essentially load software to allow them to be able to use their own technology to break into the phone. this judge in california has now ordered apple to help the fbi. here is what the judge is ordered to use reasonable technology assistance to help the fbi to bypass the iphone pass code. and to help them with the auto erase feature. this is a fight we've been waiting to happen. there's been a lot of discussion about encryption and technology companies not wanting to help the fbi get into their customers phone and retrieve their data.
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we've been waiting for a case to test that fight and so this is the case that the fbi has decided to make sure that apple will comply with this judge's order. >> so why does apple object so strongly to this? >> apple has always been at the forefront of user privacy. you have tim cook who's been the most outspoken when it comes to the encryption debate. he says building this kind of software tool will allow a back door, will allow the bad guy to have it. he spoke about this recently on 60 minutes. listen. >> there have been people that suggest that we should have a back door. but the reality is if you put a back door in, that back door is for everybody. for good guys and bad guys. >> help you understand how you get to the government's dilemma. >> i don't believe that the tradeoff here is privacy versus national security. i think that is an overly simplistic view.
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we are america. we should have both. >> you know, we're in in this very interesting time. apple putting out a statement saying we have our engineers investing in great technology. we don't want them to make this harder. they say the imp cakes of the government's demands are chilling. they go on the to say the government could extend this breech of privacy and demand apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages. so the idea that what could this mean? could they track your location? turn on your microphone? it is also if you take a step back, you know, up to the public to have this debate about privacy versus protection. how much government oversight is fair. and i think that is what these cases bring up and -- >> help us understand what a back door is. help us understand especially me. >> what apple says the fbi wants
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it to do is essentially bill a new operating system, the io system which controls your iphone that would allow them to bypass this limit of ten times. the fbi has a pass word cracker that can try as many times as necessary to guess the poosz password. that is what the fbi is looking for. there's no doubt the fbi has been looking for a case to test this issue and they have picked this case because they know it is going to be difficult for apple to defend this. apple says don't pay attention to the fact that this is a terrorist cell phone. this effects every single person. and i should add real quickly on this investigation carol, the fbi has already got a lot of data that really is connected to this phone. they went to the cell phone company that was the carrier and they were able to get, for instance, where the phone went. they went to the lake and did a
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search. so the fbi already has a lot of data. what they want is what's on the phone in case there are any communications the terrorist were using they don't know about yet. >> and i liked how you put it laurie in a break when we were talking about this. creating a back door is kind of like putting a key under the mat. and everybody could have access to the key under the mat. just like eventually everybody could have access to that back door that apple creates. >> yeah i think why you see apple coming out so adamantly against is they say we want to help the fbi and we want to help law enforcement and stop terrorism but if you build this tool t good guys will be use it but will the bad guys be able to as well? they say yes that will be the case. >> three days until voters head to the polls in south carolina. will a state known for its love of the bush family be the one to push jeb bush out of campaign? i. hello. or if i want to go down... no. but then if i want to come back again... yes.
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for a whole year i've protested. i feel like a representative; because i'm doing this, i'm speaking out, me being his daughter. i'm never giving up. i'm never gonna forget what happened to my dad. our people died for this, martin luther king died for this. i'm behind anyone who's gonna listen and speak up for us, and i think we need to believe in a leader like bernie sanders. it is not acceptable to me that we have seen young black men be beaten and be killed unjustly. people are dying. this is real, this is not tv. we need a president that's gonna talk about it. i want to see an america where when young black men walk down the street they will not be harassed by police officers,
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i'll do my job. you do yours. the president drawing the battle lines over filling the vacant supreme court seat and we're already seeing the signs of a fierce fight to come. >> there is more than enough time for the senate to consider in a thoughtful way the record of a nominee that i present. and to make a decision. >> but a fight like this is not unprecedented. although some would say it's unseemly. justice scalia just died four days. on friday his body will lie in repose at the supreme court. his chair already draped in black. professor at princeton, thanks for joining me. julian, the fight over the seat started the day he died.
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is that just a sign of the times? >> yes. it is not that surprising given how polarized washington has become and how many republicans are really dug in against giving obama anything in his final months. so it is a sign of the times. but it is also now expected. >> okay. so republicans, many of them want to hold off this nominee until next president gets into office. but the supreme court has leaned conservative 5-4 since sotomayor was confirmed in 2009. with that in mind is there any guarantee any nominee will always rule along ideological lines even if that nominee is nominated by a republican president? >> well there have been many people who have surprised the presidents who originally nominated them. and sometimes a supreme court justice could evolve. though we have seen in recent years many of the picks
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certainly on the republican side such as justice scalia have remained pretty consistent in terms of their ideology. but there is no guarantee. there is room for a justice to change opinion and on particular cases to reach a conclusion that doesn't square with what the party wants at the time. >> so one of the justice that you speak of is supposedly john are roberts. appointed by bush, conservatives loved him and now donald trump is attacking ted cruz for supporting john roberts. does that mean roberts is not a conservative judge? >> well he is a conservative judge. i think what you see there is the politics of the republican party pushes the party to the right. and pushes candidates obviously to attack anything that looks like the establishment. and nothing is more establishment than the supreme court and its justices.
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but i think you know it is fair to say roberts has been pretty consistently a conservative justice. >> i suppose that the president, president obama could nominate someone who doesn't give many speech, who doesn't have much of a written down history, like john roberts, right? and then he or she might get through, right? >> it is true. there are some picks on all of knees lists that have been coming out. such as judge garland who is moderate, not a high profile person in the media compared to someone such as loretta lynch. but it is not clear that is what the president wants to do. i think there is part of the president that wants to make a good pick. wants to make a pick that resonates historically. and he is not interested in playing the game that republicans are setting up. where they either won't nominate anyone or they will only nominate someone who is so
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watered down, so to speak, that they will support it. so i think obama sounds pretty bold in recent hours and i'm not sure that is the direction he's going to take. >> well we'll see. julian, thank you so much. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. marco rubio meeting with south carolina voters right now in mount pleasant. it is the republican candidate's first stop in this jam-packed day ahead of cnn's town hall. the florida senator sharing the stage with ben carson and ted cruz tonight. bush, kasich and trump are at it tomorrow night. of course anderson cooper will be the moderator and wednesday night 8:00 p.m. is the time to tune in. rubio's one time mentor jeb bush is creating quite a stir on social media after tweeting this image of a gun engraved with his name and the word america.
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the photo sparking responses ranging from humorous for calls to stricter gun control. he received the firearm during the tour of the factory facility and he was quote honored to have it. and how he prepares for debates against his rival donald trump. >> the conclusion when you debate a guy like trump, you have to have the last word, because he's a bully. and so he doesn't stop talking. and i actually saw tapes. he just starts -- it is not what he says. it is just the fact that he says it louder and louder and you just have to keep talking through it. it is not a skill set i ever envisioned being necessary to aspire to the presidency of the united states but i've gotten better at it. ra ra ra ra ra. >> so that is the secret. joining me now david former speech writer for george w. bush
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and senior editor for the atlantic. good morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with the gun tweet. why did he do that? >> look, jeb bush a strong second amendment proponent. and he is battling for the title of leader of the more traditional republicans john kasich who voted for the 1994 assault ban -- ban on assault weapons when john kasich was a member of congress. so jeb bush is using guns as the web issue against kasich who is even more towards the center of the republican party than jeb bush is. >> so you think this tweet is helpful. >> it is not my kind of politics but yeah i think it is helpful in the context of south carolina. >> let's talk about south carolina. a poll shows trump with a commanding lead while jeb bush is in fourth place. can we overcome that? and should he continue if he can't is this. >> it doesn't look like there is
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much hope jeb bush will overcome it in south carolina. he's gambling and things look even worse for him in nevada if the cnn poll today is correct. although it is a small sample poll. the big event is march 1. and i have to believe that march 2nd is decision day for jeb bush. the prospect if he does badly on the first of march and he stays in the race then he almost guarantees a trump victory. and donald trump know this is too. one of the things that was so striking to me about the intensity of donald trump's attacks on the whole bush family in the debate is if you is a assume donald trump has a strategic plan when he goes on the stages, and i think he does, what he must be most afraid of is that jeb bush will drop out early. if jeb bush drops out for john kasich were to drop out or marco rubio were to drop out the two-thirds of the party that don't like donald trump would be able to consolidate more easily. donald trump has to prevent that
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and the surest way is to keep jeb bush in. the surest way to keep him in is the insult him in public. >> i was just going to ask. so that means like totally annihilating jeb bush in ads and in tone? and that will keep jeb bush in the race? >> no, it means -- jeb bush had a lot of resources. despite all of the spending he still has more cash on hand than any other republican candidate. e at least in the super pac. he has the resources to stay. when donald trump on the stage attacks jeb bush's mother, his brother, throws all of these accusations at the whole family, jeb bush d he's a person who's proud of his family. he's intensely loyal. he feels he must stand up and do battle for them. and that keeps them in the race through south carolina, through nevada through march 1st. and by the time we get to march 15th, almost half of the republican delegates will have been chosen. if donald trump can arrive in florida with already having one-third of the one-half of the
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delegates that have already been chosen or even better he become versus hard to stop. >> politics is very very strange. okay. one last question about governor nikki haley of south carolina. she hasn't endorsed anyone yet. although she said she would not endorse trump. that was clear. is it possible she could endorse jeb bush? >> i don't know her thinking. she has to be calculating. she's on anybody's short list for the republican vice presidential nomination. southern state. they are not -- southern state. exciting life story. a woman. popular in her state. republicans would give her a very close look and that means she has to be very careful about not choosing then wrong head to endorse. if she endorses somebody and that person doesn't win there go her hopes of the vice presidency. >> if i were her i wouldn't
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endorse anyone but she has ore own mind and she's a smart women. still to come, campaign ads can be pricey, nasty and some are just plain weird. so what works and what doesn't? the future belongs to the fast.
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hillary clinton takes her campaign to chicago today while new cnn polling shows a mixed bag in her next two face-offs with bernie sanders. in nevada clinton clinging to a one point lead that is down from double digits in october. but a very different story in south carolina where hillary clinton maintains a commanding lead over bernie sanders. joe johns live in chicago with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning carol. certainly running neck and neck in nevada right now and that is a bit of a surprise because hillary clinton was thought to have a halfway decent lead in that state. nonetheless there is a lot of question about whether and how reliable that poll is simply because the nevada caucuses are
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notoriously difficult to poll. now over in south carolina as expected hillary clinton running very strong. mostly because of support from african americans as well as women. and 18 point lead in the palmetto state for hillary clinton. very difficult in all likelihood for bernie sanders to make up that difference and pull a win, though the expectation for him has always been about narrowing the gap. carol. >> joe johns live from chicago this morning. thank you. as primary day draws near in south carolina voters will being bomb boarded by the presidential candidates with tv ads, internet ads robo calls. you name it. some are effective. others are just strange. like this ad that featured an opening image of canada and not the united states of america. comedian jimmy fallon wasted no
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time mocking the candidate. >> some of the footage used in the ad is actually not footage of america. take a look at the very first clip. this is real. >> it is morning again in america. >> top the clip. that's vancouver canada. that is vancouver. yeah. it just got worse. take a look. >> it is morning again in america. today more men and women are out of work than ever before in our nation's history. >> that's oz. that is not even a real place. >> okay. so he exaggerated a little but it was funny. seriously though what does it take to put together a really good ad campaign. one that is effective with voters? joining me now a partner with the campaign group that creates television and radio ads. welcome. >> hi. thanks for having me. >> how does that happen when somebody puts together an ad for marco rubio and puts vancouver canada in instead of the united states?
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>> it is just sloppy work by her ad maker. it is cutting corners instead of, you know, using the wrong stock footage and i'm sure they are very embarrassed. >> i'm sure they are. >> okay. let's take a look at a couple of campaign ads. i want to show an ad from the clinton campaign that you say highlights her strengths. let's watch. >> she's always stood strong to get the job done. hillary clinton, she's stood up to china and spoke out on women's rights, went toe to toe with russia on human rights. the drug and insurance company spend millions against her. but hillary didn't quit until 8 million children got healthcare. >> i've never been called a quitter. and i won't -- >> so why do you think this ad is so effective? >> well lock, i represent a number of female candidates and there is no question that when women run for office they are judged by different standards. she's running for the first female commander in chief and
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she's really highlighting her strengths in terms of foreign policy. one of the key goals of any campaign is to define the stakes of the election and she's basically defining the stakes as who can be the best commander in chief which interestingly is one of her strengths and considered one of bernie sanders weaknesses. >> onto the next ad. according to the "wall street journal" the bush super pac ride to rise usa has spent more than $60 million on ads. more than any other campaign or super pac. here is one of their ads. >> the first job of the president is to protect america. our next president must be prepared to lead. i know jeb. i know his good heart and his strong backbone. jeb will unite our country. he knows how to bring the world together against terror. and he knows when tough meds must be taken. experience and judgment count in the oval office. jeb bush is a leader will w.h.o. will keep our country safe. >> all right. so of course that's specifically
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for south carolina where the george w. bush is very well liked. is that effective? >> well i guess it depends if you think that south carolinians didn't know that jeb had the support of his own brother. i mean i guess the fundamental question is it seems like the republican primary electorate has been very clear this year. they want change and they hate washington. and so by using president bush, it seems to be someone that doesn't exactly represent change. and does represent washington. as you said right to rise has spent $60 million, you know, an ungodly amount of one and it's gotten jeb bush into fourth place in new hampshire and sixth place in iowa. i guess this is kind of what they are down to. and maybe it will work but it just doesn't seem it has the right tone of what the republican primary electorate is looking for this year. >> and we're watching another ad by right to rise and everybody is familiar with that one with the boots and marco rubio.
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i want to move on to one for bernie sanders because he's fighting for the minority vote. they just released an ad featuring the daughter of eric garner who died after police put him in a choeld choke hold in new york. >> i believe sbernds a protester. >> when a police officer breaks the law. that officer must be held accountable. >> he's not scared to go up against the criminal justice system. >> you get the gist. if you watch the whole ad it actually gives you goose bumps. it is very much moving. so will an ad like this be -- >> it's beautiful. >> effect -- go ahead. >> that's two minutes long. if ad doesn't even mention bernie sanders until about 80 seconds into the ad. that is really expecting a lot of voters and viewers to kind of
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expect them to hang in. now it is a beautiful story and it is unbelievable moving. the question is in a presidential campaign sometimes ads are about moving voters. sometimes they are about something else. in this case i think this ad is more about something else. it is one, about appealing to donors so they will give money to bernie sanders. two, it is about sending the message in the media and other things that basically say hey bernie sanders is making a play for the african american vote. which is understandable. but my understanding is this ad actually isn't running a ton in south carolina which makes sense again given that it is a 2 minute long ad. >> i thought the same thing you did. my producer sent me that ad and i'm like who's this for? and then finally bernie sanders popped up. >> right. it is an ad for eric garner's wife more than for bernie sanders. sorry, his daughter. pardon me. >> his daughter, yeah. thanks so much for being with me. still to come, pope
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. all right. you see pope francis there. actually, he's on board a plane right now taking off for the u.s./mexico border. he'll be on the side of mexico where he's going to perform perhaps the most controversial part of his visit to mexico and that's -- would be to hold this mass right on the mexico/u.s. border.
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polo sandoval is live to tell us about it. good morning. >> reporter: carol, good morning. call it controversial, symbolic, it will mean a lot for the people here in juarez. to give you an idea of how close it will happen with respect to the united states, you can see where the altar is set up. that is an elementary school in el paso, texas. so this mass will essentially be happening just a few yards from the banks of the rio grand which divides the two. it's a message of hope and peace and touch on the issue of immigration. of course, it's highly divided among presidential candidates right next door. a little bit about the scene that we are noticing here, people have been lined up since overnight. a very chilly night here in juarez but people say it's worth it to be within eyesight of the altar that you see behind me.
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pope francis' plane will land about noon eastern and he'll head to a prison which is known to be the most violent prison in latin america. it is preparing to welcome the pontiff. after that, he will finally head here to celebrate mass in the evening. and finally, carol, the most symbolic moment will be we expect will happen before that mass when he will walk towards that u.s./mexico border and actually pray for migrants at a makeshift memorial set up there. obviously going to be something that will be highly watched not just here in mexico but in the united states as well. carol? >> and especially by the presidential candidates, i'll bet. polo sandoval, thank you. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" after a break.
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"newsroom," the president unleashes. first, a supreme scolding. >> i intend to do my job between now and january 20th of 2017. i expect them to do their job as well. >> will that get senate republicans to work with him? next up, the gop front-runner. >> i continue to believe mr. trump will not be president. >> trump launching his own attacks. >> president obama hasn't done a damn thing. >> and tonight, will trump take even more hits at cnn's town hall? plus, the fbi says it needs apple's help hacking a san bernardino's cell phone. why apple is calling the judge's order dangerous. let's talk, live in the cnn "newsroom." and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. just a few hours from now, gop candidates on one stage for cnn's town hall. over the course of two nights, all of the republicans answering
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questions from voters in south carolina. these town halls will happen tonight and tomorrow night starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern. donald trump holding a big lead in south carolina. 16 points. just a few days before the primary and the front-runner is sure to be fired up after this dismissal from president obama. >> it's not hosting a talk show or a reality show. it's not promotion. it's not marketing. it's hard. and a lot of people count on us getting it right. i continue to believe mr. trump will not be president. and the reason is, because i have a lot of faith in the american people. and i think they recognize that being president is a serious job. >> senior white house correspondent jim acosta live in bluffton, south carolina, for this hour's trump event. mark preston is in greenville
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looking ahead to cnn's town hall meetings. jeff, i want to start with you. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. i have to tell you, covering president obama, that's quite something to hear the word trump come out of his mouth and it seems to be a gift that keeps on giving for donald trump because donald trump has been on a terror talking about these comments from president obama yesterday. he's going to be pretty revved up, i imagine, here in a few moments when he takes the stage in south carolina, just a few days before the south carolina primary. carol, his fight with jeb bush, his fight with ted cruz, that is so 24 hours ago. the comments for president obama seems to have fired up the gop front-runner. he was sending out tweets about this earlier today and then earlier this morning on the one of the morning talk shows, he talked about president obama as a community organizer in a not complementary way. here's what he had to say. >> it's not being the community organizer, which is about what
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he was. i built one of the great companies, some of the great assets of the world, very little debt, tremendous cash flow. it's the thinking our country needs. we need different thinking than we have right now. he's going to go down as perhaps one of the worst presidents in the history of the united states and he certainly would want to see me. when they make those statements, it means, in a way, it's a badge of honor because that's the one they are looking at. hillary, the same thing. the last person hillary wants to run is me and, as you see, i'm beating her in the polls. so i think we're going to do just fine. >> now, when you're following donald trump on the campaign trail, you have to follow the tweets. let's throw this one out from earlier this morning talking about president obama's comments. he says, "interesting how president obama haltingly said i will never be president, perhaps from the worst president in u.s. history". this is a gift to donald trump, what president obama had to say.
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when you go to these events, donald trump likes to talk about his fighting with the bush family, his fighting with ted cruz. that may be something that not every republican in the audience will agree with but going after president obama is just about something everybody here will agree with and my sense is that these comments, president obama will continue to help donald trump for the coming days. we'll be listening here in the next few moments to see what he has to say about it. my guess is, he'll have an awful lot to say. >> jim askcosta, thank you. on to you, mark preston, what can we expect? >> reporter: carol, this is going to be an interesting moment in the campaign. we've seen these candidates on the stage fighting one another. but tonight, the beginning of a two-night event where we're going to have the three candidates. ben carson, marco rubio and ted cruz talking a little bit more about themselves. we'll hear their policy positions, we'll hear them talk beyond the 60-second sound bites
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and we'll hear about them personally. that's something that the voters have not heard so far in this campaign. it's been very biting. it has been very nasty, very visceral. i think tonight will be an opportunity for the likes of carson and rubio and ted cruz to talk to voters about how they make decisions. in some ways, it's kind of a peek inside their soul, so to speak. again, not something we would normally see in a debate that can tend to get nasty but tonight's atmosphere will be a little more relaxed and we saw this in the democratic town halls in iowa and new hampshire. both candidates came at that in a very interesting way and i think the voters got something different than what we've seen so far, carol. >> i think you're absolutely right, mark preston. thank you. a pro-jeb bush super pac has released a radio ad blasting donald trump for using profanity to sell his message. south carolina is conservative, evangelical. it isn't prone to cursing. perhaps that's why trump agreed
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to a swear jar. here he is on the stevphen colbert show. >> i can think of things that you have said on air that cbs will not let me repeat or they will bleep them. how are you going to stop? >> i do that for emphasis and sometimes nonpolitically. once i decided to run for office i sort of said, well, we're going to have to stop. >> but you didn't stop. you didn't stop running for office. >> well, these are very minor words. in many cases, i actually bleep them out myself. i never said the word and then they will bleep it and people will think i said the word, which is a really deceptive, but that's okay. >> i've got a suggestion. every time you say a bad word, you put $1 billion in a swear jar. >> i like that.
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>> you're down in south carolina. i'm from south carolina. i want to help you out here. let me hear you say, "please vote for me, y'all". >> well, i can say that. please vote for me, y'all. >> all right. with me now is jason rowec, a senior campaign adviser and also jeff duncan. welcome to both of you. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for being here. congressman duncan, you're from south carolina. you're a cruz supporter. do voters there care that donald trump uses profanity? >> you know, i thought that was a funny clip. we do say y'all in south carolina. donald trump is doing well in south carolina but, i'll tell you, ted cruz is actually the one that i think is the front-runner. he's got a tremendous ground game and i think that will be proven in primary. i welcome you guys to greenville county. >> well, thank you.
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we'll be there very soon. congressman, i want to get back to the profanity thing because ted cruz has criticized donald trump for using profanity. >> ask me that again. i'm sorry. >> the profanity issue, i know that senator ted cruz released ads talking about profanity. i'll ask you again. do voters in south carolina care that donald trump uses profanity? >> ted cruz has said a lot of things that have been proven over and over about donald trump's record and ted cruz has really run a positive campaign. he laid out a military plan, how to rebuild our military yesterday. he's laid out a great tax plan. it's time for these other candidates to really stop attacking ted cruz and each other and start showing america what they stand for and i think that's what ted cruz has done. >> all right. so jason, according to the latest cnn poll, mr. trump is riding high in south carolina and in nevada. i know that you support marco
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rubio. but if trump wins in south carolina, is there any room for an establishment candidate going forward? >> well, i disabuse the establishment label. marco rubio, one of the original tea party voices in the resurgence in 2010, he was running against the establishment candidate, charlie crist as an outsider and defeated him and so i would say he's at the tip of the spear of the conservative movement in washington. listen, donald trump is channelling a lot of anger about what is happening in washington among the americans. i think everyone recognizes that. marco rubio recognizes that. rather than giving voice to anger, he's trying to offer a vision of where he would take this country as president of the united states. you know, yeah, does donald trump have a lead in the polls right now in south carolina? yes. but 62% of the republican voters
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aren't supporting donald trump. i think there will be a coalescing of supporters behind marco rubio and this will be a two-person race. when south carolina is done, that will only be 4% of the delegates nationally that would have been awarded. we have a long way to go yet. >> the other candidates not doing so well, did you think that they would drop out, you know, like jeb bush and john kasich? >> i have a feeling -- i have a feeling on sunday a couple of them will go to church and after they go home will decide god has a different path for them. >> and just another question for you, congressman duncan, donald trump is calling mr. cruz a liar. so was rubio. cruz is trailing in a state, heavy on evangelicals like south carolina. are these negative ads, these negative comments calling ted cruz a liar hurting him? >> i don't think it is. i think ted cruz has come back and proven everything he is saying is verified by video evidence or past statements.
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i don't think it's hurting him. ted cruz has a bullet in this race and is moving up the charts and will be the winner on saturday. i think jason hit on one key point. there's a lot of anger and angst across america about what has gone on in washington. ted cruz has been somebody that not just voted right but a clear, consistent conservative fighting for the things that republicans tell the voters they are going to fight for when on the campaign trail. ted has lived up to that and i think that's the difference in this race. >> i have to leave it there. congressman duncan and jeff roe, thank you. a look at the battle taking shape in washington when we come back. also, we'll take another look at a battle taking shape between apple and the fbi over a mass shooter's iphone. pet moments are beautiful,
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move that apple calls a threat to the security of customers. last summer, you'll remember farook and his wife killed 14 people in a san bernardino attack. the fbi obtained farook's cell phone but could not get in it because of the password. evan perez and laurie segall joins us with more. >> good morning, carol. we're talking about a feature on the iphone which prevents or erases data if you try to guess the password and guess incorrectly ten times. the fbi is asking apple to install a software that allows them to use their own technology to essentially guess the password of syed farook's iphone. this was owned by the san bernardino county health department. that's the employer of syed
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farook. the fbi says that they have the permission to retrieve data from the phone. all they need is apple's help. the court says that apple must help bypass this iphone passcode and undue the auto erase feature built into the iphones. and it's a way for them to comply with these court orders. they say you should pass legislation to get this thing done. the fbi knows that it wouldn't win that fight. there's no way legislation would pass right now. so they have picked this case, 14 people dead, to test what this is, which is a fight over privacy versus national security. carol?
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>> what is apple's objection, laurie? >> you talk to any security official and they say this is a dangerous case when it comes to apple and protection of privacy. tim cook has always been very out spoken about encryption and building a back door to allow access for law enforcement saying that it could also let the bad guys in he also spoke about it recently. listen to what he said, carol. >> there have been people that have suggested that we should have a back door but the reality is, if you put a back door in, that back door is for everybody, for good guys and bad guys. >> help me understand how you get to the government's dilemma? >> i don't believe that the trade off here is privacy versus national security. i think that's an overly simplistic view. we're america. we should have had both. >> carol, i want to read to you
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what tim cook said in a statement that he put out following this case. to undermine decades of security advancements that protect our customers, including tens and millions of americans from sophisticated hackers and cybercriminals. so you're really seeing this debate come up again and play out in the public and i think it's important we talk about this idea of the back door. we spoke about it earlier. think of it as a key. you put a key under the mat to help law enforcement get in in case of an emergency. what happen if a robber gets in? what happens if cybercriminals get in? that's what tim cook was saying and how we begin to get into this debate. >> all right. laurie segall and evan perez, thanks to both of you. president obama says he will acknowledge the high stakes and the bitter fight ahead regarding the replacement of antonin
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scalia. >> the court is now divided on many issues. this would be a deciding vote and there are a lot of republican senators who are going to be under a lot of pressure from very special interests and various constituencies and many of their voters to not let any nominee go through. no matter who i nominate. >> cnn's chris frates has more on this. the president is throwing down the gauntlet and manu raju looks at the fight ahead. chris, you're first. >> the president is making the case that no matter who he nominates to replace justice scalia, he will be qualified. he said that this is a tough republican year and while democrats and republicans are fighting, he expecting everybody to do their job. he'll do his job. he'll put forth a nomination and expects the senate to hold a
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nomination and vote. here's what he had to say about it, carol. >> i intend to nominate somebody, to present them to the american people, to present them to the senate. i expect them to hold hearings. i expect there to be a vote. i'm amused when i hear people who claim to be strict interpreters of the constitution suddenly reading into it a whole series of provisions that are not there. >> so there you have it. the president making the case that this is the senate's job. he went on to say that the job doesn't end until you are voted out of office, until your term ends. and he's trying to put some pressure here on republicans to at least move this forward. it's all part of the democratic strategy to show republicans as obstructionists and so far we haven't heard from top republicans on the hill about whether or not they are going to hold a confirmation hearing for the eventual nominee and chuck grassley hasn't said whether he will have confirmation hearings
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and hold a vote. president obama is really putting the republicans in a tough spot being able to say if they don't hold a vote, they are obstructionists and should be thrown out of the senate control because they are not doing the people's work. >> chris frates, thank you. manu raju, you sort of back peddled a centimeter on holding hearings? >> that's right, carol. if you look at what chuck grassley said on friday, he didn't explicitly rule out having hearings. said we'll wait for the next president. we want the next president to actually choose a nominee. similarly, mitch mcconnell has steadfastly avoided that question. does he think the judiciary committee should have a hearing? he has not officially weighed in on that even though he wants the next president to weigh in on that as well. we'll hear more from them when they return to the senate. yesterday, chuck grassley did speak to reporters at iowa about
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the prospects of holding a judiciary committee hearing. here's a little bit more about what he had to say. >> i will wait until the nominee is made before i would make any decisions. >> there is no doubt that what mitch mcconnell has said, our republican leader has said, we're not going to bring the nominee up this year. he's doing exactly what harry reid would do if he were in the majority at this time. >> now, again, mcconnell has not said explicitly that he would not bring that nomination forward. he has sort of avoided that topic. but even so, even if it did move forward, the chances of a nominee getting confirmed in this environment, in this republican-controlled senate, would be very difficult. would you need at least two republicans to flip their votes and back a committee nominee and send him or her to the floor and then you would need at least 14
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republican senators to break a very likely filibuster. so even though, even if they do hold votes, it's going to be tough sledding for the president's nominee going forward. carol? >> all right. manu raju, thank you. i want to take our voters live to bluffton, south carolina. ted cruz -- donald trump is talking about ted cruz being a liar. >> i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm not controlled by the pharmaceutical companies and all of the different interests, whether it's the electrical companies or utilities. they have hundreds of them. they control the politicians because they contribute. i don't take the money. so i'm self-funding. i don't know if i get any credit for that, to be honest. costing a lot of money. costs a lot of money. but you know, the nice thing is they can't come to me and say, we gave you money. ford or general moertors or somebody. we need this, we need that
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because we gave you money. i'm going to do what is right for you folks. okay? >> and just for full disclosure, my wife sent a check for 25 bucks. look, one of the questions that i think everybody in here wants to know is why is the media in general afraid of a trump presidency? >> oh, i get treated so badly. i was watching fox this morning. they treat me so badly. fox treats me like worse than anybody. but i get treated badly by the media. i don't even -- i don't really understand why. they have pundits on that are just one after another negative, negative, negative. it started where actually nobody -- they all thought i wasn't going to run and they said, they will never run, they will never run and then they look bad and then they just don't stop. some of them have become much better but i think fox in particular treats me so badly, it's incredible. but it doesn't matter, i guess. look, we're leading in the polls by a lot. we won new hampshire in a landslide. it was a landslide victory. we won highly educated, not
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educated, we won women, we won men, we won old, we won virtually every group, i think. every group. and it was an amazing victory and something really special. but, you know, i'm finding out all i can do is tell the truth. i tell the truth about iraq. i say the world is a disaster. we spent $2 trillion, lost thousands of lives, wounded warriors all over the place. these guys have more courage than all of us put together, i have to tell you. all of us. and, you know, i say we should have never been there and i don't care if he's insulted. it was a horrible mistake and we should have never been there. somebody said, that's not good to criticize. i said, criticize? it's one of the worst decisions in the history of our country. we've totally destabilized the middle east. when you knocked out the one power, the other power just took it over and now iran is taking
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over iraq just as sure as you sitting there. we spent $2 trillion. we could have rebuilt our country. we could have done so much with that money and instead we're worse in the middle east than we were 15 years ago. right now, it's a disaster. saddam hussein was a bad guy. right? but you know what he was good at? killing terrorists. he was killing terrorists. now, iraq is harbored for terrorists. if you want to be a terrorist, go to iraq. it's harvard. we have all of these wounded warriors. what do we get? and iran is taking on -- not only do they get the 150 billion and this stupid deal that we've made, one of the dumbest deals i've ever seen, now they are taking over iraq that we've handed them, they have been trying for years to take each other over. they are now taking over and
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people don't realize iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. so we took it and we just handed it to them on a silver platter. how could we have been so stupid? [ applause ] very sad. to me it's a sad subject to talk about. >> on the way in, in the back, i saw a gentleman with a bernie t-shirt on and i said, what are you doing here to trump -- at a trump rally? he said, well, the tickets are free. so what is your answer to hillary and bernie when they are grabbing so many of the young people with freebies? >> who is the bernie guy? who is he? i guess he got thrown out, i guess. i don't see him. no. look, this is -- and the main thing is, tough go and vote and all that. if you don't vote for me, don't go and vote. it's a nice thing to say, doesn't matter who you're voting
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for but you must go vote. i don't feel that way. just go and vote if you're going to vote for me. it's so important. on saturday you have to. and it's true, we have such an unbelievable turnout. other people forget that. we have so many people that wanted to come, we said, you can't come. this is a group of people where they get stuck outside and a lot more than that but they invited exactly 500 people and i just felt i had an obligation to do it. i was thinking about canceling this morning because i had something else and i said there's no way i have the courage to do that. right? would i have been in trouble? would i have been in trouble? >> we're going to break away from this donald trump rally. we'll keep you posted if he says anything else of heightened interest. still to come, one of the most popular republicans in south carolina but so far, no 2016 endorsements from governor nikki haley. but we know who she won't back.
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bernie sanders closes the gap out west while hillary clinton keeps a lead in the south. in nevada, sanders is trailing by just one point but clinton is leading by 20 points in south carolina. one of the most sought after endorsements in south carolina is governor nikki haley. while she's yet to throw her support behind any one particular candidate, she has ruled out one person.
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>> we don't want a president that's going to come in and bash and tell us what we're not doing right. we want a president that's going to help us fight and help us win and help us explain why we don't want syrian refugees. so i thought it was -- i thought it was quite obama-like. >> [ inaudible ]. >> hear now is statehouse reporter for "the charleston post & courier." what did nikki haley say when she was asked about endorsing donald trump? >> they just asked her if she felt like it was out of the question at this point and governor haley has been critical of the loudest voices. she has said that she was implying in her state of the union address that it was donald trump and -- among others and it just -- donald trump told me a few weeks ago that he didn't
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expect governor haley to endorse him so this is not a surprise for him. >> not a surprise. how important is an endorsement from the governor? >> it depends on who you ask. she downplayed it yesterday. she said that she didn't think that her endorsement was -- wasn't sure if it carried weight. but it does. you know, a lot of voters are undecided in south carolina. and they are really hoping to see if someone tells them where to go. you know, we have been told by voters that when tim scott endorsed marco rubio, they became a little more at ease with who they were siding with. and so the governor's vote -- support is something that is very important for voters. >> so the governor would throw her support to marco rubio as well, that would be a huge boom for him? >> most definitely. recent polls has marco rubio
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fighting for second and third place. and, you know, rubio is hoping to make a splash in south carolina after new hampshire. and it would be pivotal for his campaign to be able to get the endorsement of governor haley. rubio has said that he gladly welcomed governor haley's endorsement, as i'm sure many other candidates would. >> i'm sure. so i want to talk about the evangelical vote and donald trump. donald trump so far owns evangelicals over senator ted cruz and you would think that senator ted cruz would have those voters in a bag. why doesn't he? >> it seems like just the electorate of south carolina is angry and they, despite the fact that they do not agree necessarily with the fact that -- not necessarily side with the fact that donald trump may not seem as religious as senator cruz, trump is very brash and they particularly like that. they like that he is very
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head-on strong and doesn't necessarily apologize for what he has to say. >> so they are willing to take a chance on social issues to vote just for some kind of different candidate? >> well, look, like mitt romney in 2012 was doing very well at the beginning in south carolina and it was a famous turning point where newt gingrich did really good in the debate and voters just changed their mind. it didn't seem to matter that mitt romney was overly religious to them. they just sided with the guy that they felt was going to be the perfect candidate for them and defense issues and national security issues are really big in south carolina so even though the evangelical vote just carries some weight, if there are other issues that come into play as well. >> i understand. cynthia, thank you for helping us through this. thanks so much. still to come in the
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first to make their way to this now huge sanctuary. i'll get out of the way so you can actually see it for yourself. and what's interesting here, as we continue to see people file in and many of them spending a cold night in line, many of these individuals praying the rosary as we speak waiting for the arrival of pope francis. there are dark windows that you may be able to make out beyond the actual altar area. that's an elementary school in el paso, texas. that really gives you a better idea of how close pope francis will be in u.s. soil when he celebrates mass and also, most importantly, the symbolic moment in which he will head to a temporary memorial that's been set up between the altar and the rio grand. that's where he will pray and be silent for a few moments and it will be a moment that will be watched on bolt sides of the border as immigration is a key
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issue for the pontiff and widely debated right next door by the presidential candidates. when he arrives here in el pael paso in two hours, le hehe will to a state prison and pray with the prisoners there. >> we're looking at pictures of the pope on the ground in another part of mexico but he's in the air right now on an aeromexico plane. i understand that the plane was hit by a laser? >> right. those are the issues that were reported that said the pilot followed protocol by notifying officials on the ground. but at this time, they don't believe that the pope was in any danger. it was noticed in the cockpit
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and it's an issue as we've seen several flights diverted and forced to land. due to that, that was not the case here and it was simply something that they noticed and was reported. that being said, carol, i know that in previous papal trips, several individuals have shined mirrors on to the helicopters. somebody may have been wanting to get the attention of the pontiff but may not have been in the right way. >> no, definitely not. we're glad he's okay. thank you so much. apple fighting back after a judge orders it to help the fbi unlock a terrorist's phone. will apple fight back? we'll talk about that next. lu. you give them a case of the giggles. tylenol® cold helps relieve your worst cold & flu symptoms... you can give them everything you've got. tylenol® this bale of hay almost derailed the ranch. when a wildfire raged through elkhorn ranch,
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a judge has ordered apple to help the fbi crack the passcode for the fbi to a phone that belonged to one of the san bernardino terrorists. apple is pushing back and says it doesn't have that technology yet and even if it did, it would be like giving the government a master key to private data that belongs to its customers. let's talk about that with criminal defense attorney paul
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callan. this is a fascinating case. your first inclination is, it could prevent a terrorist attack. why isn't apple ponying up? >> yes. it's an example of how technology is outrunning the constitution and the law as we develop these new problems in the modern age. but here's the thing about it. the constitution says no search and seizure unless there's a warrant issued by a judge for specific evidence. okay. here, they are just trying to seize a phone. they don't know what's on the phone and they didn't figure out how to open the phone. so now they are trying to get an order forcing apple employees to help them. in essence, forcing those apple employees to be the employees of the fbi as they investigate an american citizen and apple says, oh, no, the constitution does not require us to do that and we're going to fight this. >> let me throw a caveat in this. technically, that iphone belonged to the county because this terrorist worked for the county and issued him that
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phone. >> yes. >> the county gave permission to apple to say like break into the phone. >> absolute lead. they give permission to apple but nobody can force apple's employees to become the involuntary servitude. if i can go back to the constitution, the british were forcing american colonialists on general ritz to raid people's houses, which is why we have the fourth amendment that says, no, there has to be a specific piece of evidence that you're looking for and you have to have an order from the judge. >> we're looking for a terrorist phone call that this farook might have placed and that's why we need to hack into the phone. isn't that enough? >> all right. so let's say they are saying
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that. so here's the phone. be my guest. they are not saying that. they are now saying, well, maybe it's on the phone but we don't know how to open the phone so we want you to tell us how to open the phone. it's like saying to a contractor when he's building a house, we want you to build a little tunnel into the back of the house just in case there's a criminal inside some day and we want to get in easily. you know? it could be a mass murderer inside the house. no. it's a violation of your privacy. people are asking the same questions about terrorism and it's a tough, tough question. >> all right. paul callan, thanks. i'll be right back. trust safelite. with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" you'll know exactly when we'll be there. giving you more time for what matters most. (team sing) ♪safelite repair, safelite replace.♪
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it may not be hillary
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clinton's most best place on the campaign trail but it's the most replayed. >> the bite is proving worse than the bark as the internet nips at hillary for her doggie imitation. ♪ >> reporter: music videos and movie clicks. >> bark like a dog. >> reporter: all because hillary told a story about an old political ad that featured a dog trained to bark at lies. wouldn't that come in handy for her republican rivals, she said. >> every time they say these things, like, oh, the great recession was caused by too much regulation. >> she's funny. >> i don't know if this was a tribute to the westminster dog show. >> reporter: one that donald trump refused to emulate. >> if i ever did that, i would be ridiculed all over the place. i won't do it. i'm not going to imitate her so there will be no barking. >> as if hillary didn't face
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ridicule, an actual dog barking at a trump rally last month was one of the many mocking means making the rounds. >> what was that? was that a dog? >> hillary. >> uh-oh. >> reporter: it's enough to make triumph the insult dog. >> is it true you tried to shut down the government so you could go to a nickelback concert? >> reporter: overshadowed on the campaign trail. hillary is in a puppy league compared to a guy dubbed psycho man compared to his impersonation. an australia retiree. >> they came bounding over. >> reporter: his imitation was remixed and even scared real dogs. they suffered some of the exact same mockery.
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they would make mince meat. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> this is the weirdest political season ever. thank you so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. at this hour with better man and bolduan starts right now. >> the brand-new cnn poll that has campaign heads spinning. republican heads spinning, too, big in south carolina and that's a big problem for everyone else. their new plan to take them down. why does apple refuse to help the fbi crack the cell phones of one of the san bernardino terrorists they say is for our

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