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bolduan starts now. >> held rhello, everyone, i'm j berman. feast your eyes on south carolina. do not look away for a moment. within a moment hillary clinton will pick up what could be one of the most important endorsements of this campaign. within a moment, donald trump will hold his first rally of the day ahead in every poll, poised, perhaps for a primary victory tomorrow which one republican told me could cause the establishment to hit the panic button. within a moment marco rubio continues his bring your governor to workday, campaigning
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with nikki haley, and jeb bush continues bring your mother to workday, campaigning with barbara bush. that's happening now in south carolina. so important in the presidential race. ♪ but in washington an important moment for the entire nation. justice antonin scalia lying in repose at the supreme court. right there an important congressman paying his respects. the supreme court is now open to the public. there are folks lined up there for just this type of moment. the republican congressman from california right there. we'll check in throughout the hour. this is a moment to say thank you to someone who served the country for so many decades. first, let's go back to south carolina. our chief political correspondent, dana bash, live in myrtle beach where we'll see donald trump within the hour, and dana, within 24 hours we
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might have a great deal of clarity about this republican race. >> reporter: that's right, john. you said it. you know it. you've covered politics for a long time as have i. south carolina is so incredibly important in terms of a moment in the republican primary race. and if donald trump achieves what the polls right now say he's going he's going to achieve which is a victory in south carolina that generally picks more establishment candidates -- if they pick him instead, even other republicans and washington say that he might be unstoppable at that point. you mentioned that it's bring your governor to workday for marco rubio. this is bring your crowd to workday. this is kind of a classic trump event. there are people lined up outside, waiting to get in. this is a very, very big space. the campaign says it could hold about 6,000 people, and this is the kind of energy, the kind of
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momentum that donald trump is trying to put forward. now, we should say back in iowa, he had these kinds of crowds too, and he only got into second place. he didn't win as the polls had suggested. trump officials tell me that this time they have stepped up their ground game here. they did that in new hampshire where donald trump did win, and they're hoping that the kind of boost that he's gotten across the board, even and especially surprisingly from evangelical voters will push him over the top. >> dana, stand by. we're going to go to colombia. that's the most important democratic in south carolina about to give his endorsement to hillary clinton. >> this is an important opportunity to take stock of where we are as a nation and make choices about where we are going as a people. eight years ago south carolina and the nation made history with the choice of barack obama.
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it was an emotional campaign for many of us. a few days ago i admitted that my head and my heart were in different places relative to this year's presidential primary. today, however, my head and my heart are in the same place. a few people speculated that my head was with one candidate and my heart with the other. that was not the case at all. my heart has always been with hillary clinton. but my head had me in a neutral corner. but after extensive discussions with my wife, emily, who is here with me today, our children, and grandchildren and other constituents and friends here in south carolina and across the country, i have decided to
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terminate my neutrality and get engaged. this is my 24th year in congress. i have the clunt to work up close and personal with hillary clinton and bernie sanders. my experiences with both have been pleasant and enjoyable. but in spite of how it may sound sometimes, campaigns are and should be about the future. and i believe that the future of the democratic party and the united states of america will be best served with the experiences and know-how of hillary clinton as our 45 th president. we are facing some critical challenges. family incomes are stagnant. and the wealth gap is widening. educational costs are soaring,
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and post secondary education which is more necessary today than ever before seems out of reach for too many. far too many communities have languished in per sis tasistenty for far too long. i believe that hillary clinton is the best choice to help us conquer these challenges. hillary clinton is the best choice to achieve equal pay for equal work. and arrest the growing income inequality that exists in this country. hillary has devoted her life to early childhood education and affordable health care for all. hillary clinton's proposals for accessible and affordable higher education will relieve the crushing debt of college loans
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and preserve the value and viability of historically black colleges and universities. and hillary clinton is far and away the best choice to reform our criminal justice system and restore the voting rights act to its rightful place as the most effective guardian of that most sacred right for every eligible american in our communities. as a life-long student of history and a former history teacher, i've often said that history lessons can be real blessings but only if we have learned them. i learned a long time ago that hillary clinton is a fighter and that's what we need in our next president. the change we seek for this great country will not come
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easy. we need a real fighter, and i believe hillary clinton is that fighter. although i speak only for myself and those who have urged me to take a stand, i urge all like-minded south carolina people to join the fight. let's vote on saturday, february 27th, to nominate hillary clinton to be the next president of these united states. thank you. i'm sure that there may be some questions. i'll be glad to respond to them. i might answer one or two. >> i'm curious on why now. >> well, as you probably know, i made a vow to not say or do
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anything that would jeopardize south carolina's status as the first in the south primary. so eight years ago i stayed silent. i didn't endorse at all, because i was told by many of the candidates that if i got overly involved that they would stay away from the state. that's why i waited until now. i did not want to get out there too early and have candidates using my involvement as an excuse not to engage in south carolina. because i want this state to remain in the current status in the preprimary window. i think it's good for south carolina democratic party, and it's good for south carolina. if for no other reason, it wringswring brings a lot of people here who spend a lot of money and help us
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educate these young people who are here. >> congressman, it's tight in nevada right now with hillary clinton and bernie sanders. are you hoping this endorsement is going to seal a victory for hillary clinton and the vote in nevada? >> well, to be totally honest with you, i was on the phone with a few of my friends in nevada. you may know that for the last four or five election cycles i campaigned a lot in nevada. i have quite a few friends there. some of whom urged me to come forward now, expressing that it may help them in nevada. i certainly hope so. >> several of your colleagues in congress have framed the senate republicans opposition to president obama nominating someone to replace antonin scalia in racial terms. do you see it that way?
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>> in racial terms? >> uh-huh. >> i've not heard what they've had to say, but i'd frame it in constitutional terms. i think the constitution is very clear on this subject. and those people who seem to be revisionists of history seem to forget, but i haven't, that justice candidate was approved in the last year of the presidential administration. and so if the president were not to move forward now, if we do not do what is necessary, what we're talking about is leaving the supreme court under personed to be politically protect, for 1 months. you talk about 12 months left, basically, in the president's term. 11 to be exact. and then you start a process with the next president that
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will last from six to eight months. you're talking about september in next year before we get a supreme court justice, and so i think he would be derelict has president of the united states were he not to put forward a name, and i think the senate would be derelict if they would not give that person a vote. >> all right. you've been listening to jim clcl clyburn, a key political figure in the nation, a crucial political figure in south carolina. a week and a day before the primary there, endorsing hillary clinton, saying he is terminating his neutrality in this race. he says his head and his heart finally in the same place. called hillary clinton a fighter. i think very importantly said he hopes this endorsement helps not just in south carolina but in the state of nevada which votes
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tomorrow. joining us now to discuss, dan pfeiffer, margaret hoover, and errol, and then also daniella gibbs. where to begin, errol lewis, credit where it's due. you want endorsements, big endorsements in south carolina. they get no bigger. >> exactly right. you want to talk about the democratic establishment? this is the establishment. i mean, clyburn is the number three ranking democrat in congress. he's got people who actually -- he actually has an organization. it's not as if it's just him sort of shouting at a microphone. he has people who are going to go out there and work. it does suggest that clinton is calling in favors.
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it does suggest that clinton needs some help. there's no slhame in asking for help. it's probably better to ask for it. it's a big win for her. they needed this and they got it. as he mentioned, in 2008, which was a big deal in south carolina, he stayed neutral officially. and he got off the fence this time. >> stayed neutral and it upset is clintons a lot in 2008. there was a lot of fighting there. it indicates that whatever bad blood there was in 2008 is completely gone now. dan pfeiffer, you were part of that 2008 race on the other side for barack obama. you know how powerful jim clyburn is. talk about the timing. the democrats vote a week and a day from now. this endorsement was made a day before nevada. why today, do you think? >> well, first i'd say i think the general view is endorsements are nice to have. most of them aren't worth much more than the paper the press release is printed on. jim clyburn is an exception to that rule.
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he has a political organization unlike a lot of members of congress. they can move votes in a presidential primary election. why now? i'm skeptical it's going to move votes in nevada. i don't think people in nevada will decide to caucus or not based on this, but it will matter in south carolina. a week, it gives you enough time that he can start turning his organization on enlisting his precinct captains and volunteers, making sure they're helping the clinton campaign. the sooner the better in this case. i think this is an important endorsement for secretary clinton. i think it will certainly help solidify her lead in south carolina. it's a good day for that campaign. >> you know, daniella, you talk about the democratic fire wall. having jim clyburn's endorsement adds ballist to a fire wall. he used language that i can only imagine created flee in brooklyn
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if it wasn't written in brooklyn. it came out of hillary clinton talking points. i made the decision with my head and heart, speaking to my wife and also my children and grandchildren. younger voters who whom i've been having a problem. what words jumped out to you? >> i noticed the head and heart moments that he repeated more than once. i think you see that on the democratic side. there are some folks who are trying to say that there's more people -- people are voting more with their heart and more emotion on the bernie sanders campaign. i think it's important that the congressman said, actually, no, i'm doing both. i support here intellectually and think she'll make a great president, but she also moves me in my heart, and not just me, me and my kids. the younger and the older generation that's inspired by her candidacy. if you look at the polls, there's no enthusiasm gap on this side. there's widespread enthusiasm for both candidates. >> margaret, you're the outsider
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in thece sense that you're a republican. you know we talked about south carolina, everyone wanted nikki haley's endorsement. rubio got it. this is the democratic equivalent. >> right. nikki haley runs the republican party in the state and has an organization. mobilized only three days before the vote as opposed to six days before the vote for the democratic side. i couldn't help but exactly to your point laugh at the head and the heart commentary from her. i mean, those talking points were written directly out of brooklyn. there is an enthusiasm gap on the democratic side when it comes to sort of excitement about bernie sanders versus hillary clinton. she has tried to make the case herself that if you're going to be the leader of this country, you have to have both a head and a heart and i have that. but she needs third party validators to make that case. she can't do it herself. >> he made the endorsement in south carolina. hillary clinton not by his side because she's in nevada campaigning for the caucuses which are tomorrow.
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brianna keeler chasing the clinton campaign in nevada. you heard jim clyburn saying he's been on the phone with his friends in nevada trying to get them out tomorrow. this has to come as welcome news and a relief for the clinton campaign. >> reporter: it is, and i think what it does is gives them a little bit of confidence, if, for instance, they lose in nevada, which they think is a real possibility. the polls are tied up. they're unpredictable. this is a caucus setup. one of the things that struck me about what you heard and certainly where you heard clyburn say this was at allen university. this is one of the distinctions that the clinton campaign is making and that clyburn is making. bernie sanders has a proposal for free education. hillary clinton's campaign has a bit of a carveout there to provide a fund that would help
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historically black colleges and universities. when you see him talking about hcbus, he's saying hillary clinton is the one who has an eye on these universities, who cares about the african american community, and it's a really -- it's a real point that he's trying to point. >> all right. brianna keeler in nevada. to our panel, i want you to stand by for a moment. we have some breaking news just into cnn. we just learned of the passing of one of america's most important authors. harper lee who wrote to kill a mocking bird passed away at the age of 89. harper lee who wrote that book so importantly, the only book that she published for so many years until this last year when a second back came out either, you know, her desire or not, but such an impact on so many people in this country. one single book with a series of characters that i think defined america and the american family
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and our perception of ourselves. brian stelter joins us to talk about this, i think, important passing. >>. >> reporter: this is a very sad moment for so many tens or hundreds of thousands of readers. practically every student in the united states is assigned to read to kill a mocking bird has read the words and cherished it. she passed away at the age of 89. they're working on a statement. we're also hearing from officials of her hometown in alabama, also confirming this news. there's no word, john, on exactly when or how she passed away. we assume we'll hear more on that in the coming hours. she had been in poor health in the past suffering a stroke in 20 07.
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we see her here accepting a medal of freedom. few books changed the world the way harper lee's novel did back in 1961. >> no. presented a sense of justice, the importance of justice, a sense of family, the importance of family, and the sense of america and how america has changed and can change. you see here -- >> 1999 it was voted the best novel of the twentieth century. she didn't really speak much, if at all, after the release of "to kill a mocking bird". i think in 1964 was the last time she gave an interview talking about her work in a modern age where everyone comments on everything, she let her work speak for itself and be interpreted by others and students and teachers and crass rooms around the world. >> brian, i think it's a sign of the value of that one book, just
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how important it was that even with just one work for so many years, it was so dominant and she was such a crucial figure. brian, thank you. harper lee, the author of "to kill a mocking bird" passed away at the age of 89. we've received confirmation. it's a passing important to this country. we're marking it today. 22 minutes after the hour, moments from now, back to south carolina, back to the campaign trail. because they just have 24 hours to get out the vote. who better to get out the vote than mom? barbara bush appearing with jeb bush on the campaign trail. is she the closer? can she help get him up in the polls and get him past south carolina? plus, donald trump, ahead in all the polls. he takes the stage in just a few moments. his first rally of the day. what's his closing argument in south carolina? how far is he going in this race? he says he'll run the table.
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and an important moment at the supreme court. you're looking at live pictures right now. justice antonin scalia lying in repose. you see him surrounded by miss law clerks. they will stand by the side of that casket all day, all night. president obama expected to pay his respects. we will take you there, live. (vo) if you have type 2 diabetes, you may know what it's like to deal with high... and low blood sugar. januvia (sitagliptin) is a once-daily pill that, along with diet and exercise, helps lower blood sugar.
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what's left for me to say is that jeb has been a great son, great father, great husband, married well. and is one of my four favorite sons. >> all right. former first lady bringing it to the campaign trail with a weird shoutout to neil and marvin bush have which you don't hear much on the campaign trail. nice to see her looking well and out on the campaign trail. i'm sure jeb bush thinks it's
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nice to have her out there. he needs everything he can get with just one day in the south carolina primary. with me, our panel. i kind of want to talk about the stakes tomorrow for the leading candidates right now because we saw barbara bush. dana, let's start with jeb. he's taken a lot of heat the last couple of days that this might be it for him. >> reporter: a lot of heat, and a lot of kind of campaign trolling, if you will. other campaigns, or at least people associated with other campaigns kind of getting it out there that he's out of money and that means he's going to stop paying staff and that means he's going to quit the race after south carolina if he doesn't come in at least third. but they insist inside the bush campaign that that is not true, that he is going to be in it longer than south carolina no matter what happens. but you know how this works,
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john. even if he doesn't officially drop out, if jeb bush doesn't at least do better than expectations as he would say, and expectations are to stay in and do well, you have to beat rubio who is the guy closest to him in his lane. maybe he's still in the race for a while, but a lot less of a factor, and even now, given the fact that this is effectively his last real stand, it's going to be hard to get beyond something less than a third place finish here. >> marco rubio, let's talk about him, margaret. the expectations for rubio are now quite high, i would say. he picked up the most important endorsement in south carolina. his campaign betting hard on the momentum and saying we have it all. they're saying we could finish second and maybe even threaten for first. they set the bar have. >> they always have.
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that whole goal was three, two, one. first in south carolina. he has a strong south carolina team aon the ground. his people know the lay of the land. he does have to do well. there's no question. as much as it's make or break for bush, it is for rubio. what we need to start seeing happening if there's a prayer for a real competition to the nomination that isn't cruz or trump is a winnowing of the field before march 15th. you continue cobbling enough delegates to get through to share nominations, but once march 15th happens, if there's not a winning of the field, trump or cruz win the table. >> let's talk about ted cruz for a moment right now. ted cruz caught in the middle of rubio and donald trump. ted cruz has been fighting both these men quite hard and fighting for evangelical votes
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there. south carolina was a state i think he thought he could win. he thought he could win a lot of march 1st states. he needs what tomorrow? >> he needs a win, and some of the polls have suggested that that's not entirely out of the realm of possibility, or at least a close second. he needs to do well. he needs to do well with evangelical voters. he has an operation. he's been running a bunch of ads. he has three dedicated superpacs that have been pouring a ton of effort into this. he has to do as well as he can right now because the process is going to get brutal supertuesday. >> in some ways the stakes are higher for cruz an rubio. cruz has 10,000 volunteers in south carolina or across the country. he has put so much money into data and digital and field, and his strategy has been to microtarget the individuals that have the precise profile of his voter and get them to the polls. the challenge is that a lot of
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them like donald trump instead of him. and if he doesn't win evangelicals solidly, that poses a question for cruz throughout the south. >> that's the challenge, the terror inside the cruz campaign is that somehow they slip behind rubio. i think that's their biggest fear. dan pfeiffer, i saved the man on top for you. i've been hearing if donald trump wins south carolina and if he wins convincingly, and some polls suggest he might, this is one of those moments, this is a clarifying moment in this campaign that sets the stage not just for what goes fwasorward i the campaign but the party as a whole. >> i think if donald trump has a big win on saturday, he was going to have a lot of momentum heading into the primary, and in the bigger states, it's going to be really hard for these other candidates to catch up because they come right after each other. they won't have time to campaign there. once you get to the larger state
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primaries later in march, it's about momentum and name recognition. there won't be the chance to meet every voter like you can do in iowa, new hampshire and even south carolina, and so if he heads into the contests with a head of steam and the field is still split, it's hard to see how he's not the nominee. >> in some way, the campaign catches up to his earned media. that's donald trump's forte right there. it will be right in his wheel house. the south carolina primary is tomorrow. a clarifying moment in a 36 hours from now we'll know a lot more. dan pfeiffer, margaret hoover, dana dash, errol, thank you for being with us. trump and bush have had a lot to say about each other. what will they say about each other today? trust me, they're about to speak live. we'll take you there when it
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repose. you can see the public, the doors opened to the public a short time ago, surrounding the casket, law clerks who have clerked for justice scalia over the years. they will stand by his side all day, all night. president obama due to visit the supreme court today to pay his respects. he won't go to the funeral. the vice president will. some beautiful images from inside the court as so many people, i suspect thousands and thousands file through today to pay their respects. our pamela brown is standing outside the supreme court watching, i think, the people go in. we already, pamela, this morning, quite a poignant event. >> reporter: absolutely. a very somber day at the supreme court. you could really feel the history in the air when justice scalia's casket arrived here and was brought up the marble steps behind me, and people began lining up outside 6:50 this morning so they could go in at
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10:30 to pay their respects. the first person in line, a 17-year-old girl who is here on a class trip. even though she doesn't agree with his politics, she knew today was a historic day and wanted to pay her respects and tribute. we also spoke to a former law clerk of scalia who said he was a master of the court and talked about his friendship with justi justice ginsburg. they were best buds. they were the odd couple. and even though not everyone agrees with justice scalia's and his opinions, what is agreed upon is that he really has left his mark on the court. he was very influential and changed the way the justices looked at the law with his original belief. he served 30 years, a longest-serving member of the high court. today with his last journey
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stage. his first rally in his last campaign day in south carolina. south carolina votes tomorrow. it's happening within hours. donald trump by no means the only candidate out on the campaign trail. they are all out on the campaign trail, and cnn is all over them. chasing the crew's campaign in charleston, south carolina. phil mattingingllymattingly, an jones. ted cruz fighting the two front war against cruz atrump and rub. >> that's right. that's part of his closing message as he tries to secure last minute votes. it's all about he's the most tried and true conservative among all the candidates and really trying to dress down the other candidate's conservative credentials, specifically on donald trump. he heard him make the pitch to
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voters saying i understand why you would want to support donald trump. you're ticked off at washington, but he said you have to look at the records and know what you're going to get. and rubio, also the campaign really wasting no name jumping on rubio. last night at the last minute he skipped a conservative gathering, cruz saying that's proof he's not going to the conservative vote. these two campaigns are at each other's throat. cruz wants to finish strongly, in second place, to poll ahead of rubio as much as he can so he can argue that he's the alternative to donald trump. >> all right. let's take a look at the other end of the fight. let's check in with the rubio campaign. phil mattingly all over that. phil?
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>> reporter: the real fight, at least for the rubio camp over the last couple days has been with ted cruz. they've been punching back at the cruz campaign's attacks over his decision to skip that conservative review conference last night, particularly when it came to rick tyler, cruisesayin not a real conservative. we all saw the printout of the photo shopped picture last night. but after a big event this morning in colombia where nikki haley gave a rousing introduction and statement for rubio, his campaign running into a hiccup, plane troubled. he's forced to cancel his next event. a lot of events today. really kind of trying to make that closing argument, and when it comes to that argument, it is he is a unity candidate. he's somebody who can bring everybody together. the campaign closely making the final picture at every one of his events.
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marco rubio and nikki haley, tim scott, and tray gowdy, the young rising star up on stage together. that's the message they want th people to see. not a photo shopped image of shaking president obama's hand or image of an empty hall where he can't get to today. plane troubles got to be frustrating for the team. thanks so much. let's check in with the bush campaign in spartanburg. iowa shee in a jones -- athena jones is there and we're about to hear from barbara bush. >> reporter: jeb bush and barbara bush just wrapped up their event here. it's the first of three events. this is at a popular restaurant here. they're on their way to the next stop nearby in greenville. this was a very friendly crowd. and you could see the energy in jeb bush. he drew from the crowd. they laughed when barbara bush made brief remarks talking about how jeb is one of her four favorite sons and saying he's
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honest and modest and kind. jeb bush continued to make the argument he has been making. people should want in the white house someone with a steady hand. someone with a proven record and the right temperament to lead. he also talking about who people should not want in the white house. take a listen. >> we'll never win by disparaging women, hispanics, the disabled, p.o.w.'s, calling them losers because they got caught. never win by pushing people down to make ousts look better. it has never been that way. >> and so of course those are not so vailed references to donald trump who he's referred to as a blow hard. jeb bush is in fourth place here in south carolina and many people say this is a make or break state for him. talk to folks on his campaign. look, we have staff ready in nevada and done a lot of work in the march one states that vote on march 1st. they're going to go the distance. what happens tomorrow is going
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to be important to the jeb bush campaign's next move. >> thanks. and in just moments, donald trump will hold his first event of the day, a rally in myrtle beach. you can look at a live picture right there. we will bring you there the moment it happens. plus, the breaking news just in this hour. one of america's greatest authors, harper lee has died. the author of "to kill a mocking bird" with a book so many people read and cherished. she's passed away at the age of 89. much more on the reaction ahead. absolutely ageless® night cream aveeno® with active naturals® blackberry complex ... ... a whole new way to keep skin looking younger longer ... ... starting tonight. part of the new absolutely ageless collection from aveeno®
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all right. live pictures again, that is inside the hall in myrtle beach, south carolina, from moments from now, donald trump will address voters. his first rally of the day in south carolina. in case you've missed it, we've been trying to tell you that south carolina votes tomorrow. the republican primary is tomorrow, the polls open in the morning, close at 7:00 tomorrow night. south carolinaians just have a
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few hours left to the make up their minds, few hours left to be undecided. what they think? let's go to victor blackwell, he is in columbia at the university of south carolina. victor. >> reporter: no pressure, right john. fewer than 24 hours until polls open here in south carolina, and we know that historically, at this point on the day before primary day, there are often so many voters here who are either undecided or still persuadable, gop insiders here put that number this year maybe at 50%. i spent the day speaking with younger, first-time voters here on the campus and more seasoned voters offcampus, and it's interesting, what i found when i've asked what attracted you to the candidate you've chosen or what are you looking for that you haven't found yet? it comes down to politics, often not policy. tone. tact. the climate. looking for an outsider. one of those voters, brian, his name is brian trueluck. i met him this morning. he is voting for marco rubio,
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but that's not where he started. i want you to listen to what he told me about the other top tier candidates. >> carson is who i was for originally, but he's just, he can't win. kasich won't be able to win. jeb bush, blew his opportunity early on. i don't think jeb, jeb seems to be just, you know, going along with the family line. basically, he's just kind of a puppet in this thing he doesn't seem to have his heart in. . >> reporter: do you think marco rubio can win south carolina? >> no. >> reporter: who do you expect will win south carolina? >> trump. >> reporter: how do you feel about that? >> i think the american people have turned into -- they're less savvy -- the more news they receive, the less savvy they become. >> reporter: i've spoken with a cross section of gop primary voters this morning, and it's interesting, for each voter who says that he or she is either leaning toward a candidate or has decided on a candidate,
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every one of theme has said that that candidate is marco rubio. now is this scientific? no, and i'm only speaking to people here in columbia, but interesting, nonetheless, just counting down the hours until the polls open here, john. >> just about a few seconds left, victor, you were in iowa then new hampshire, in those states, everyone talks only about the election. give me a sense of the feeling down there. is this something that everyone's talking about or are they trying to get along with their lives? >> reporter: you know it's different here of course is that the democrats are voting a week later. so there of course is an urgency here when you're speaking with gop voters, but as it relates to how this compares to ohio, people are especially on a campus, are getting on with their lives, but obviously feel that split, the difference between the urgency between the democrats and the republicans. of course speaking with the democrats as we get closer to the 27th. >> all right. victor blackwell for us in columbia, south carolina, we look forward to hearing all about that. guys, don't miss it, tomorrow,
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cnn all over the south carolina republican primary. the democratic nevada caucuses, don't miss the pregame show with wolf blitzer, anderson cooper, and jake tapper. kate baldwin and i pick up the coverage tomorrow night. legal view starts right now. hello everyone, i'm jim in again for ashleigh banfield, welcome to legal view. and we begin today again with politics. we are a day away from two more presidential contests that could give this race further clarity or make clear that the drama will last through springtime and beyond. democrats will caucus in nevada, and live to nevada in a moment. but we're going to begin in south carolina where republicans hold their first southern primary where donald trump still holds a very comfortable lead in our poll of polls. rolling average of the five latest polls of likely voters shows trump, the the

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