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four days before super tuesday, everybody came to play. a real fight for the republican nomination escalating into an all-out street brawl basically. you had feisty marco rubio getting high praise for his performance which was basically trying to go against donald trump. the attacks also nasty around more personal, though, surprisingly, alisyn, not so much from trump. >> yeah, there was a lot of feistiness, chris. trump became the target. rubio and ted cruz bashing the millionaire at every turn. we have the raucous debate covered the way only cnn can. give us the highs and lows. >> good morning to you. this really did devolve into an all-out war pushed by newly
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aggressive marco rubio going against donald trump. an all-out war of insults and putdowns breaking out in the final gop debate before super tuesday. >> do you think you're the only person. >> i'm the only one on this stage who hired people. >> marco rubio and ted cruz worried about donald trump's trifecta wins in the last three contests, unleashing attacks against the front-runner from illegal immigration. >> when i was fighting against the eight amnesty bill, where was donald? he was firing dennis rod man on "celebrity apprentice." >> the second thing about the trade war, i don't understand. the ties and clothes you make are made in china. >> they devalue their currency
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to such an extent that our businesses can not compete with them. our workers lose their jobs. >> i don't know anything about bankrupting four -- you lied about the polish workers. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. 38 years ago. >> oh, okay. i guess there's a stoo auto of limitations on lies. >> you'll have different plans. competition, so many different plans. >> now he's repeating himself. >> no, no, no. i watched him repeat himself five times four weeks ago. it was a meltdown. i watched it. i watched him melt down on the stage like i've never seen anybody. i thought he came out of the swimming pool. >> let's talk about your plan. >> he says five things, everyone's dumb, he's going to make america great, he's going to win, win, win, he's winning in the polls, and the line's
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around the street. >> and hillary clinton. >> first of all, with the polls, i'm beating him awfully bad. >> you can't beat hillary. >> hey, if i can't beat her, you're really getting killed. let me ask you this. i know you're fighting, i know you're embarrassed. >> lashing out at both senators at the same time. >> you are all talk and no action. what i see up here -- i mean first of all, this guy's a joke artist and this guy's a liar. you have a combination of factors. he can't do it for the obvious rb and he can't do it because he doesn't know how to tell the truth. i know politicians, believe it or not, better than you do, and it's not good. >> i believe you know politicians better than i do because for 40 years you funded
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politicians. >> even you. gave you a check. >> donald, relax. >> i'm relaxed. you're the basket case. go ahead, go ahead. don't get nervous. >> now, with the dust on all of that still very much settling this morning, the big question going forward is how will this change the dynamic of the race going forward? of course, chris, this is only four days before super tuesday. >> so much that we expected. we got even more last night. thank you very much for trying to capture some of what you captured. the piece would have to be two hours to get it all. matt lewis joins us along with national reporter microwave reston and senior editor mark preston. mark, we've been looking at these things for a long time. i have never seen anything like last night. what do you think the big surprise was in the main dynamic? >> i have to go back to the idea that marco rubio came out swinging against donald trump. earlier the bottom line is he did telegraph a little bit, but
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notter about picked up on it and certainly donald trump didn't pick up on it. rubio said he was going go after ted cruz and he was going to try to take him out and i think he was successful by going after donald trump. i have to tell you, i asked the rubio guys last night after the debate, you know, when did you make this decision to go after trump and he said within the last 48 hours. they decided that they had to tell -- they had to tell the donors and the gop establishment class that they could do it and go after trump. >> so, maev, what was your take on it? >> the thing he did so well was never let up on donald trump. we've seen the other candidats s go out. he kept bringing it back at him, back at him. in the first hour it was like he hit him with the big oppo book,
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four things that would be a problem for donald trump right off the top and continually coming back off. he did fine holding up to it, but rubio, i think, really demonstrated what he needed to demonstrate to donors at this critical moment right before super tuesday when he's going to need a huge cash infusion to his campaign, that he can make this a two-man race it's an interesting case, the two-man race case. yes, it wasn't about taking people from trump but keeping his own people solid. let's play you a little mashup of what maeve is talking about. >> he's supported you. given hundreds of thousands of dollars to democrats. >> tell me about your plan. >> it says five things. everyone's dumb, he's going to make america great again, win, win, win, he's winning in the polls, and the line's around the
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state. every night, same thing. >> i believe you know politicians much better than i do, because for 40 years you've been funding liberal democratic politicians. >> you lied to pole powe live workers. >> yeah rks , yeah, yeah. 38 years ago. >> you lied 38 years ago. so there's a statute of limitations on lies. >> i called for rubio but i got both. >> and polish workers. >> what did you make of it and who did it play to best? >> first, i think, what if they had been doing this all along? it took them this long how to go up -- >> what's to figure out? i mean all of these things existed. they didn't come up with anything new. >> i don't think it was a matter that it took them this long to decide what to do. it took them this long to figure out how to go toe to toe with donald trump, i droll. i will say this. rubio reminded me of a sugar ray
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bigger opponent and had punches and then counterpunches. to what maeve was saying, sometimes they have a good zinger and he comes back and destroys them. rubio had counter-punch and counter-punch, really a flurry of activity that had donald trump on edge all night. he did prove to donors last night he's tough and stand up to trump. what he didn't do is rubio at his best. it was inspirational, optimistic and eloquent. he wasn't that guy last night. ted cruz is much more in his element being a law eric attacking somebody. so i think in a way, the environment benefits ted cruz. >> i think that was why we all have the perception that ted cruz did not do as well as marco rubio. it took him a long time, like kind of the windup. it was very prosecutorial with
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trump. it worked certainly in some moments but other moments it seems like trump got the best of him. i think it's so interesting because the electorate is really looking at three different candidates and you saw those sides of them last night. >> this campaign is all about moments in time. >> right. >> that's my theme. it's all about moments in time. last night for marco rubio it was to try to convince is the establishment he had the wherewithal to go toe to toe with donald trump. why he bested cruz last night is marco rubio did it in the first 90 minutes of the debate. >> the first five minutes. >> yeah. you're right. that way he came out of the gate strong. if you noticed during the debate, rubio kind of faded away a little bit but not in bad way. he faded away in a good way and let trump and cruz. >> you have to show tough ens when you go up against trump but
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i thought there were substantive things that if repeated over time could hurt trump. >> from cruz. >> one of the things is that john kasich probably offered the most substance that's high on the electability executive scale last night, but do you think it broke through? >> i think there will be some republican voters watching who looked at the way kasich was talking in a substantive way talking about policy, and, hey, i really love that guy, but sometimes it felt like he was in a debate in a different state and he wasn't on that stage. i think it makes it a very difficult situation last night. >> ben carson made a great statement. will somebody attack me. >> fruit salad. >> that was weird. >> makes you hungry. >> trump after the debate i come at him about the taxes. it seems like an issue he could do if he wanted to by pushing
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hillary clinton. >> he said i'm being audited, i can't do it, it would be stupid to do it. he said i think i'm being audited, pause, because i'm a christian. >> he's such a martyr for religious liberty. >> he loves the christians. he loves -- >> they're going to buy that line are the people who are already with trump. >> who look at the irs and the government as big government. >> as the enemy. >> as the enemy, exactly. >> after two hours of slogging it out, he was stim able to make his case. >> matt, maeve, mark, thank you very much for really helping us understand what was a titanic night in the gop race to be sure, alisyn. >> okay, chris. we have to talk about the other side. the democrats are one day away from their first primary in south carolina. hillary clinton leading bernie sanders by double digits. how important is it?
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cnn's joe johns is live in the capital of columbia for us. good morning, joe. >> good morning, alisyn. the communications team sending out message after message, attacking republicans on everything from tax cuts to immigration to the supreme court while here on the ground in south carolina, it was all about getting out the vote. the former secretary of state herself along with her husband, the former president, and they will be joined today by their daughter chelsea, traversing south carolina. the whole point of this is to try to run up the vote on saturday to increase momentum going into super tuesday. bernie sanders, for his part, was out west going to illinois, ohio, and also michigan, visiting flint, michigan, in fact, for the first time, the scene of that water crisis that has dominated the headlines for
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weeks. now, the one thing that has been a common theme running here in south carolina and other places is the issue that has been dogging hillary clinton of late, and that has to do with bernie sanders' call for her to release transcripts of her speeches to wall street banks, "the new york times" in an editorial calling for her to do that. back to you. >> of course, joe, she says when everyone else does it, i'll be happy to do it. we'll see if that gains any steam in the next two days. thanks so much for that. stay with us for the come plooet coverage of the south carolina primary. donald trump on the defensive during the debate. did it make a dent in trump's momentum going into super tuesday? we'll hear from donald trump next.
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debate. he was attacked relentlessly by ted cruz and marco rubio, reminiscent of the old wrestling crunch in a bill of firing exchanges and even shouting matches. the best time to talk to these guys is right after the debate before they've had time to be polished up by their teams. that's when we got donald trump to talk about what happened on that stage and what's going on with his taxes. >> politicians, they want to get elected, but they're doing badly. i think cnn did a very good job, but i think they had a lot of focus on the three in the middle. maybe that's the way it should have been. i don't know. i thought it was a great. i thought it was exciting, and i thought it was a great. >> what did you feel about the dynamic of having to take them on? >> i felt it was fine. i've dealt with the toughest people over my lifetime and much tougher. i thought it was fine. i enjoy the debating process. >> during that debate as it was
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going on, minute maid paarco ru on his website selling watches, saying they would have been watches you would have been selling but it was a donation for him. >> the problem with marco is he's a choke artist. he chokes. i lookedover and said, are you okay. he looked like he came out of the swimming pool. he was soaking wet. he kept repeating himself, kept repeating himself. >> he tried to do it to you. >> no, i keep saying what's needed. we can't have a joke artist. one of the things i learned from sports, i was actually a very good athlete. once you're a jokechoker, you'r choker. we can't have that. >> do you think? >> i think so. nielts for me to say. you know, marco, i'm 20 points up on him in florida and with
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cruz, it seems the last balls i'm even and winning every other state. yeah, i think so. i think it's going to be over very quickly and i don't think there's going to be a convention. >> it seems like marco rubio was more intent on going after you than even senator cruz. what do you think? >> i was a little surprised but i thought it was fine. >> did he show you a toughness? >> i think he's the same basic person. then i look at him and he's pouring sweat. i don't know what the problem is. he's pouring down sweat. we have to have somebody who doesn't sweat. we have to have somebody who when they walk into putin's office or putin walks into our office or we deal with the chinese, they know what they are doing. >> mitt romney during the key bait was bringing up your taxes. >> let me explain about mitt. mitt is a guy who was a horrible candidate. he lost a trace that should have been won and it should have been won easily. i don't know what happened. he like disappeared the last two
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months. but when mitt gave his tax returns just so you understand, it was about six months from now in 201 the. it was exactly september 21st. that's when he gave his tax return. we're in a different world. so, you know, mitt is trying to remain relevant. nobody's talking to him much anymore. he got some publicity today. the one problem i have is i'm always audited by the irs, which i think is very unfair. i don't know, maybe because of religion, maybe because of something else, maybe because i'm doing something else. >> what do you mean religion? >> because of the fact that i'm a strong christian and i feel strongly about it. >> do you think you're being audited for being a strong christian. >> you see what's happened. many groups have been complaining about it for a long time. >> what about the ones that aren't audited. this seems like an easy answer for you. >> i can't do that. i have to put it noekt a unified way. they all relate to each other. i don't know if you have the
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picture, the ones that relate to the ones later. >> you know what you would do with this issue if somebody else had it. what are you talking about. >> nobody that's under a regular audit -- i mean it's a regular audit. i think for 12 years, 10 years, 12 years, i get audited. nobody would ever put out their returns that's under an audit. >> all right. let's discuss chris's a great interview with donald trump and so much more. matt lewis, maeve reston and mark preston. okay, guys. let's talk about this. one of the driving issues in this race since the day donald trump got in has been his plan to build a wall along the mexican border and he's always said he's going to make mexico pay for it. well, yesterday the former president of mexico vicente fox was asked about it for the first time. he gave a somewhat salty
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response and during the debate last night donald trump responded to him. so watch this. >> i declare i'm not going to pay for that [ bleep ] wall. he's going to pay for it. he's got the money. >> the wall has gotten ten feet taller. i can tell you if i used half of that word, it would be a national scandal. this kbie used a filthy disgusting word on national television and he should be ashamed of himself and apologized, okay? >> hey, mark. interesting to hear donald trump offended by someone's filthy language. >> can we stop a second? are we watching cnn or "saturday night live." that was amazing. the fact that donald trump is talking down about somebody using vulgar language is just -- i have nothing else to say. mike dropped. i'm done. >> so, maeve, to the larger
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issue, do you think that that was a chink in the plan for the wall to hear the actual former president saying never going to happen? >> well, that issue matters the most to donald trump's people, and they -- he's been actually using this line out on the trail a fair amount that the wall just got ten, 15 feet higher, and people just love it in the crowd. i think that was a moment where he was sort of playing to his own audience. other republicans who don't necessarily support him maybe would look at fox's comments and they a lot about that issue. but i think in the moment, trump got what he wanted out of it. >> now, let's take a look at what we saw happen here in terms of what its net effect will be because that with us the beauty of last night is that it mattered. it wasn't quick one-liners that will go away. this will be the ball is now rolling around it will go in a direction because of what happened last night. let's figure out what it is.
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matt lewis, everyone is making it now about it's a two-man race. you say, hold on. it's two men, but i think it's trump and cruz and not rubio. why? >> no. i thit's a three-man race. if you watched the debate last night, it was clearly a three-man race. john kasich had good moments, and ben carson -- >> he's out there try not to destroy the land. i think it was a three-man race. i think ted cruz -- we're underestimating how well he did last night. i think cruz performed very well. he did what he had to do. remember, we're going into texas where i think now cruze he help himself in texas. >> hold on. answer this question for me though. it's the cruz question. yes, okay, maybe he helped himself but is it the "nose to
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spite the face" move? they know with this guy he'll never work with anyone else. >> i think that's ted cruz's biggest problem, you hit the nail on the head with that. i think last night what he was doing in some of those longer exchanges was to really raise questions about donald trump's conservative defenses. i think he achieved that goal and that's going to be really important in some of those southern states on tuesday. so in some ways we're paying a lot of attention to the rubio/trump dynamic but i think matt is right, that a lot of cruz voters probably watched that and will turn up on tuesday. >> he served up a lot of possibilities of what would happen. we never talked about trump university. it's there. it existed. >> and there are huge surges for that at the moment that rubio brought that up. >> rubio said google. i loved that too. >> we talked about donald trump
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and the one-liners he's had and the dynamics on the stage. it was all substance. the questions were substance. they were not political questions. the fighting just occurred between the candidates. there was so much heat on that stage last night over issues such as the economy, over isis, over taxes. i mean it was just -- over the budget. and it was interesting that the heat got -- it wasn't so -- the personal name calling was really originating off of the differences over policy or lack thereof of details over policy. so that's what i thought was interesting. >> mark, maeve, matt, thank you very much. you know, alisyn, my father-in-law is of german desce descent. wolf's steady hand was the reason they were able to go at it on that stage and on so many different topics. it was really interesting to watch what he did and brought that excitement to bear.
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>> he was fascinating. that's a fabulous origin of his name. i want to be called alisyn blitzer. thanks. i knew you would comply. we'll get to that in a moment. there is more disturbing news to get to. another mass shooting. three killed, 14 injured when a man opened fire in a kansas factory. we'll go live to the scene next. nice'n easy. we only make the most real natural looking color. so even in revealing sunlight, it doesn't look like hair color at all. it looks like, it's a hundred percent you. and isn't that the most beautiful part? nice'n easy: color as real as you are.
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kansas leaves four people dead and 14 ores wounded. witnesses describing the horror. we're also learning more about the shooter and his motive. what have you learned, rosa? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. this town is a small town of less than 4,000 people and today some are mourning their loved ones, their friends. others are counting their blessings because they were spared in fr. the cross hairs of a man on a rampage. breaking overnight, the gunmanning who stormed a small manufacturing company in a small
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kansas town killing three people and wounded 14 others. >> law enforcement approached the shooter. there was an exchange and they killed the shooter. >> i witnessed him shoot the shots. i saw the shell casings come out of the assault rifle. >> reporter: authorities receiving a call about a man shooting from a vehicle. one person shot in the shoulder. another reportedly shot in the leg. minutes later, ford allegedly entered excel industries where he worked and reported in earlier in the morning. almost 100 people in the building at the time. authorities say victims were randomly shot. >> we heard a pop pop and we thought it was just metal falling on the ground and then the doors opened, people started screaming, coming out. >> he was just unloading on everybody. and i told the girls working on my line, let's go, let's run.
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>> reporter: police arriving on the scene minutes after the gunman opened fire. the first police officer on the scene single-handedly taking down the shooter. witnesses to the gruesome bloodbath in shock. those who knew the shooter grasping for answers. >> wouldn't think he would have done that. he loved his kids. he was a good guy. >> reporter: now, police say that they don't have a solid motive in this case. they're still investigating. but alisyn, i talked to a witness who was also a friend of the shooter and he says one thing is clear, the people in this community are hugging their loved ones just a little tighter. >> oh, rosa. it's just so sickening and also so mystifying what makes people go on these violent rampages. thanks for the update. back to politics, ted cruz,
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it was a big fight in the republican debate last night, but it also had a big policy focus. immigration was big on the table and it erupted into this firestorm of attacks on front-runner donald trump by senators marco rubio and ted cruz in what sometimes seemed like coordinated attacks but how much of the substance of the policy differences got lost. let's discuss. ben ferguson and conservative columnist, kayla mack. she's a big supporter. what made the difference? >> i think last night's performance was probably his weakest of all the debates. i'm not saying it was a bad debate, he was taking a lot of heat, but i think marco rubio landed some very good punches that were also with substance. i think ted cruz had a good night. it's about winning states now. he's going to be just fine here
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in texas. donald trump didn't do anything to stop that momentum. i think rubio helped himself in florida, which is desperate in the polls there, which you see. again, they came after him on actual, you've got to explain more than you're going to build a great wall and if someone insults you, that ice ten feet higher. how are you going to pay for it? it's now become 20 feet higher. >> kayla, what did you think? your man had his head on a swivel taking attacks from both sides. what did you see? >> he certainly did have his head on a swivel. donald trump had his best debate yet. he looked like a front-runner. he stayed above the fray. in fact, i would argue that both kasich and carson had better nights than both rubio and cruz despite having far fewer time to talk.
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it was rehearsed where donald trump was organic. he did what he always did, let trump be trump. >> i love that you say he was classy. donald trump was insulting and having constant insults which is something when you saw him, when he got rattled, he was insulting. you're stupid, you're stupid, and you're dumb. here's how you know donald trump didn't have a great night. they're saying ben carson had a great night. most people didn't know he was there. >> the fruit salad line. >> yeah, hey, i'm still here, hello, and please attack me. >> please attack me is not a night when you're winning. to say he had a big night -- >> is there any regret for either of you? k kayleigh, i'll start with you. is there any regret that the man
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who was touting executive experience in way that was compelling to hear in a positive way was not one of the three in focus. it was governor kasich. is that a little regrettable for you that someone who seemed to be offering the positive stuff your party is asking for all the time is somewhat an afterthought last night? >> i do think kasich had a great nor night. i don't think that he normally does. he's the most far left of the candidates and that's why i don't think he should be the nominee. i don't think he should come close to it. he should have a good night. compare that to marco rubio who was bringing up attacks from the 1980s when donald trump's subcontractor hired an illegal immigrant. you know you're grasping at straws and you're desperate when you're bringing up attacks from 38 years ago. mine, yes, kasich had a good night, rubio had a bad one.
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>> that's the difference here. >> donald trump has run -- >> you're right. >> ben? ben? >> especially when you're talking illegal immigrants. you're literally the guy who says i'm going build a wall, i'm going to deport people, self-deport people. and when you're in business we know he had no problem actively recruiting, not just foreigners taking american jobs. that was a big point made by marco rubio. this is fact. he hired people from outside of this country. >> that's incorrect to say that he -- that is incorrect to say that he is -- let me speak that. is incorrect to say that he was okay with this. he run as $10 billion company which by the way no one on this stage has run anything remarkably close to that and he had a subcontract tore -- let me finish, ben. let me finish, ben. he had a subcontractor ujds noo neath him that he did not know was hiring illegal immigrants in a $10 billion business.
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he had a subcontractor ujds neath him. he did not know that. he did not actively hire them. that's false to say that. >> you're telling me that donald trump's $10 billion business, he could not handle the affairs and therefore had illegal immigrants being hired but you think he can run immigration for the entire country of the united states of america and do it effectively and deal with illegal immigrants but he couldn't do it with his own business? that's not a very good plan if he can't do it with his own business. >> those are the two sides of it. shaking your head in disgust at ben ferguson. know that feeling. ben, a great to have you here. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders. that's the other side of this race. last night it was all about the gop. remember, you've about got two big sides on this. african-american votes is the big field of play there right before the south carolina primary. the african-american vote expected to be 50-plus percent
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>> they will consider whether or not to charge manziel in the allegations that he attacked his ex-girlfriend last month. he could be facing a misdemeanor assault charge. it carries a maximum of four years in prison and a fine. he's not responded publicly on these allegations. steph curry and the warriors. he broke the nba record. he didn't just hit one. curry hit ten three-pointers from all over the court last night. he finished with 51 points as the warriors beat the magic in this one, 130-114. alisyn, i know you're following the warriors closely this year and want to know if they're going beat the bulls' all-time record. they're 52-5 on pace to beat the all-time record. >> i could have told you that but thanks so much for reminding me. hillary clinton is poised
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moment. how important is a win in south carolina, hillary? >> well, from, you know, the entire month going forward, every state is important. but she's -- i think she's going to win in south carolina. what she's looking at is momentum going at the super tuesday where you've got a lot of states and a lot of delegates at stake. so a strong win in south carolina gives her supporters comfort and, you know, gives bernie sanders a little extra anxiety, i think. >> so, bill, if hillary wins in south carolina, then bernie sanders does need to make a big splash. you both agree with the stakes that bernie sanders has a chance of winning on super tuesday, so let's look at those. you both believe it's massachusetts, colorado, vermont, minnesota, oklahoma, and tennessee. bill press, how likely do you think it is that bernie, if he loses south carolina, could win
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some of these? >> well, will it me just say that hillary and i agree on one thing. hillary clinton is going to win south carolina. i see that as almost the mirror image of new hampshire where she was trying to lose by as little as she can and bernie sanders was trying to win as big as he can and it's just the opposite. we both agreed on the states they're very important wins. that's where bernie has been spending his time strategically, we receive that. he's in minnesota today, not in south carolina. so i think he's counting on rolling up the wins in as many states as he can. i think it's sort of like what hillary clinton did in 2008, the same thing. you keep slogging and slogging and roll up as many delegates as you can and you're in it for the long hall. >> that's a good thing. finish your sentence and then i want to get to it. >> i was going to say, 2008 is kind of a bad example because obviously hillary clinton came up short in delegates.
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obviously this proportional delegates in stage is really, really important. it means that you can kind of stay in the game, eve if you can never really get ahead. so the big challenge for sanders is going to be when he kind of moves to the side if hillary clinton ends up with a significant proportional majority. >> i want to get to this before we run out of time. i want to talk about something that has happened. >> either way, bill, i'll give you that. >> i do wand to rewind the clock back to 1996 and something that hillary clinton said in 1996 that has come back to haunt her now on the campaign trail. this was about violent criminals. so let me play for you her original statement in 1996 and then play for you what happened on the campaign trail with some protesters on wednesday. listen to this. >> they are not just gangs of kids anymore. they are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators, no conscience, no empathy. we can talk about why they ended
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up that way, but first we have to bring them to heal. >> we have to bring them to heal. okay, we'll talk about it. >> i'm not a super predator, hillary clinton. >> we'll talk about it. >> can you apologize -- >> can i talk and maybe you can listen to what i say. >> so hilary rosen. that was a protester who i believe was identified as part of the black lives matter movement who said i'm not a super predator and why did you say that and she demanded an apology and hillary clinton did apologize. let me read that to you. in that speech i was talking about violent crime and vicious drug cartels were having on the country and the particular danger they were posting on families. looking back i shouldn't have used those words and i shouldn't use them today. hillary, how big of a deal do you think this is? >> it's an important issue in the country, so it's a big deep. black lives matter has brought a
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significant amount of energy and problems that african-americans have faced in communities and i think hillary clinton and bernie sanders have been responsive on this, on the campaign trail. look. bernie sanders voted for that bill that hillary clinton was talking northbound that clip, so, you know, there's a little bit of democratic stain across the board here, but i think her apology was sincere. i think bernie sanders talking about it today was sincere. hold everybody accountable for being insensitive -- too insensitive in those days, but i don't think it's going to make much difference in this election. >> ten seconds, bill, last word. >> the black lives matter is very important, a very important message. i think hillary clinton has duly apologized for those words and we ought to accept that and move on. think i the black lives matter people would be maybe better served focused on the people we saw on the other side of the stage last night.
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they've got hillary and bernie both on their sides. >> hillary and bill, thank you very much. we've got much more including the presidential debate, so let's get right to it. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com when you say crazy zeal out, are you talking about you? >> politicians are not a real estate deal. >> i'm the only one in the state who's hired people. >> you lied about the polish worker. >> 38 years ago. >> you lied 38 years ago. i guess there's a statute of limitations on lies. >> i watched him and it was a meltdown.
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there it is. the university of houston, the walls still reverberating with the energy of what went on inside those walls last night. good morning. welcome to your "new day." we are in houston, alisyn's in new york. republicans want a dog fight, and, boy, did they get one. have seen nothing like what went down right before super tuesday. the senator from florida adwres iively going after donald trump on health care, his hiring practices, immigration, and then he seemed to get the assistance of ted cruz. to be clear, the stakes have never been higher. i was in there, and i'm telling you, alisyn, the smell of desperation was in the air. >> that could haven't been pleasant. all right, chris. because ted cruz and marco rubio were unleashing on donald trump in hopes of taking down the front-runner. they're banking on it not being too late going into from tuesday. you're going hear from donald
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trump shortly about how he felt about all of this but we begin our coverage of the raucous debate with sunlen serfaty. good morning, sunlen. >> reporter: pushed forward by a newly aggressive marco rubio going against donald trump. an all-out war breaking out. you had feisty marco rubio getting high praise for his performance which was basically trying to go against donald trump. unleashing an onslaught of attacks against the front-runner from illegal imgriggs. >> when i was leading the fight against the gang of eight
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amnesty bill, where was donald? he was firing dennis rodman on "celebrity apprentice." >> the second thing about the trade war, i don't understand. the ties and clothes you make are made in china. >> they devalue their currency to such an extent that our businesses cannot compete with them. our workers lose their jobs. >> i don't know anything about bankrupting four companies. >> you know why? >> you lied about the polish workers. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. 38 years ago. >> oh, okay. he lied 38 years ago. oh, yeah. i guess there's a statute of limitations on lies. >> you'll have different plans. competition, so many different plans. >> now he's repeating himself. >> no, i'm not repeating myself. no, no, no. i watched him repeat himself five times four weeks ago. i want to tell you, it was a meltdown. i watched it. i watched him melt down on the
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stage like i've never seen anybody. i thought he came out of the swimming pool. >> let's talk about your plan. >> he says five things, everyone's dumb, he's going to make america great, he's going to win, win, win, he's winning in the polls, and the line's around the state. every night, same thing. >> reporter: and hillary clinton. >> first of all, talking about the polls, i'm beating him awfully bad in the polls. >> you're not beating hillary. you're not beating hillary. >> hey, if i can't beat her, you're really getting killed. let me ask you this. i know you're being beaten badly, i know you're em based. but keep fighting. >> reporter: lashing out at both senators at the same time. >> you are all talk and no action. what i see up here -- i mean first of all, this guy's a choke
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artist and this guy's a liar. you have a combination of factors. he can't do it for the obvious reason, and he can't do it because he doesn't know how to tell the truth. i know politicians, believe it or not, better than you do, and it's not good. >> i believe you know politicians better than i do because for 40 years you've been funding liberal democratic politicians. and by the way. >> even you. i funded you. i funded this guy. gave him a check. >> donald, relax. >> i'm relaxed. you're the basket case. go ahead, go ahead. don't get nervous. >> now, after all that the dust still settling but the big question going forward is how will this change the dynamic of the race going forward. of course, chris, this is only four days before super tuesday. >> i'll tell you what. it was real high political thee yater going on. at times i didn't know if i was watching a debate or "saturday night live." it had real impact.
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let's discuss. we have david gregory of "meet the press" fame and cnn political commentator. i'll tell you one thing. have you ever seen it like that before? >> i can't say it on snn. it was a total "s" show. >> vicente fox? >> i wonder if there was damage to the brand long term. remember, they limited. they tried to reign in these debates in the reince priebus autopsy because there were incidents in the last debate that they thought harmed the brand of the party long term. do some of the perceptions linger and come back to harm whoever wins the nomination? >> yet, what was that a crucible of last night, david gregory, the crisis of who this party is, what that party is. you had that on fullsome, on
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full display. >> yeah, rubio feepd discovered google. i'm not a prude about this, neither is michael. but i mean this was a pit full display of political discourse. it really was a new low for 2016 and i think the brand -- the party has to deal with that because of the larger question, duh it actually change anything. when you get beyond insults, the ultimate question is did they land serious blows onto trump about his authenticity, whether he's a real conservative, whether you'll really know whenever he comes down on important issues and whether you trust him. does he tell the truth. these are questions we simply don't know answers to with regard to his supporters. >> david, i love you, brother, but your big intellect is
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getting in the way. who they are and how they represented and that's the way he gets settled. >> there's going to be a general election. i'm looking at what happened in houston. marco rubio brought the heat last night. i don't think he's the beneficiary of anything that he did to bring trump down a couple of pegs. >> they're second-guessing him, holding this meeting about a brokered convention. >> but if you're a trump supporter who now has second thoughts, is he the guy use're going to or ted cruz. >> isn't he over -- i'm not facetious. isn't he over 75% resolved? it's not about taking the people. >> i think he was doing ted cruz's dirty work. i thit's a little too late for rubio. >> david gregory, as a writer of things religious, did you feel
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any kind of connection with donald trump in the after-action interview when he said he is t getting audited by the irs because of his faith? >> no. i think that was hyperbole. that was his short-handed way to say the irs has target conservatives. there has be been a lout of talk about targets on tea parties. i thought that was off-based. i understand the kinetics and what happened on stage that. was important. the ability to show your supporters, to show donors, to show other people who might be washerring in this republican primary you've about got some fight and can take this guy on. that's fine. but if you're a trump supporter and you want to get into the insult game, you want to come out on top. the point made here, which is the right one, if you're going
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to attack trump, you're too late. why did you wait until the tenth debate. number two, you have to have this as a sustained attack day after day after day in order to reach those persuadables, so i have no complaint other than the candidates and the way they talked to each other. this is their debate, their chance to take each other on in a way they see fit. whether the country thinks it's very palatable or not. especially when it was this kind of two-on-one. for me it's hard to gauge whether cruz benefits more than rubio. >> well, look. of course, you're both making the right poirjts which is negative is supposed to be partners with positive and you wind up showing the base you have certain mettle and you have ideas to offer and the proof is in john kasich last night, the governor of ohio. during the melee he would interject every once in a while
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with really strong fundamental points about executive and fundamental solutions about what the guys were fighting about. what was the net effect on that, michael? >> i don't know that he had a chance to break out. i think he distinguishes himself by being on that stage and not participat participateding in what was going on. i kept looking at bush 41 in the audience and looked at the class he showed. >> and god bless him for being there. >> and what was going on. >> only kasich brought him up showing a model work of government. >> can i say on kasich, the positive and negative. the positive on apple where he challenged possible and said you've got a lead on this. bring them together and bring a solution. a big negative for him, someone who wants to have more moderate support, wants to be able to reach out to democrats, talking about the issue of same-sex marriage saying, listen, you have to be able to serve gays
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and lesbians if you make cupcakes and even if you're opposed to them, you can say a prayer for them hoping they can change their behavior, talking about gay and lesbians being gay and lesbians because it's a choice, not a behavior, i think that's going to be offensive to a lot of people. >> do we have time to play the kasich argument against obama or should i just summarize it? all right. let's listen to it because it was a really intelligent one. go ahead. >> the president of the united states should be convened, should have convened a meeting with apple and our security forces and you know what you do what when you're the president? you lock the door and you say you're not coming out until you reach an agreement that both gives the security people what they need and protects the rights of americans. it's the failure of his leadership to get this done as an executive should be doing it. >> now, maybe too little too
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late, but i'll tell you something. i was raised by a governor and i're about got one now as my best friend in my brother. that is what they do. they have the ability to get people in a room and lock the door before the press gets to it. that was an interesting insight no one else would make. >> the president did bring them in and locked the door. i think that's what the tick tock shows. i was thinking as i watched kasich of what jeb bush said you've got to be ready to lose primaries to win a general. i look at him and say that's the guy who's the strongest in a general election, whether he can survive in this cattle call remains to be seen. >> david gregory, michael smerconish, thanks so much for helping us understand what we all watched in awe. alisyn. >> absolutely. what a night. one last full day of campaigning before south carolina democrats head to the polls for saturday's primary. all polls point to a big win for hillary clinton and a boost
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heading into the super tuesday contest. but bernie sanders insists he can make a big impact on super tuesday. joe johns is live for us in columbia, south carolina. joe. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. hillary clinton's campaign spent the last hours fighting against the republicans on everything from tax cuts to the state of the union. now, meanwhile the one thing i think we can say that's going on here is they're trying to position her as a general election candidate. but on the ground in south carolina, it was all about the primaryover the last 24 hours. the former secretary of state moving around south carolina with her husband, the former president. they'll be joined by their daughter later today. this campaign is trying to run up the vote to move in more
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momentum as we get to super tuesday. one thing that has been dogging hillary clinton here in south carolina and elsewhere is bernie sanders' call for her to release transcripts of her wall street speeches. "the new york times" asking for her to do that. bernie sanders for his part has been moving across the midwest, i illinois, ohio, and michigan, but will be back here in the south carolina today. back to you. >> joe, thanks so much for the update on the democratic side. stay with us all day for the complete coverage of the south carolina democratic primary. well, back to the debate, donald trump was the bull's-eye in the cnn debate last night. marco rubio and ted cruz hitting the republican front-runner hard. how does trump think he did? trump's self-assessment next on "new day." and energy to stay healthy. who's with me?! yay! the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with 9 grams of protein
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the republican front-runner welcome back. we're here in houston. this was the scene of the big gop debate. donald trump under attack from jump by both sides, senators rubio and cruz.
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they were seemingly united at points in their ambush of the republican front runner. the sparring grew loud and proud. so we grabbed donald trump right after the debate. that's a really important time frame before they get polished up by their advisers about what he thought took place on that stage, how he faired, and what was the real deal on his taxes. here's what he said. >> they're politicians who want to get elected, but they're doing badly. i think cnn did a very good job, but i think they had a lot of focus on the three in the middle. maybe that's the way it should have been. i don't know. >> what did you think about that dynamic? >> i thought it was great. i thought it was exciting, and i thought it was a great. >> what did you feel about the dynamic of having to take them on? >> i felt it was fine. i've dealt with the toughest people over my lifetime and much tougher. i thought it was fine. i enjoy the debating process. >> during that debate as it was going on, marco rubio starting
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on his website selling watches as a pretend gimmick, saying they would have been watches you would have been selling but it was a donation for him. >> the problem with marco is he's a choke artist. he chokes. i looked over at him and said, are you okay. he looked like he came out of the swimming pool. he was soaking wet. he kept repeating himself, kept repeating himself. >> he tried to use that on you tonight. >> no, i keep saying what's needed. we can't have a choke artist. one of the things i learned from sports, i was actually a very good athlete. once you're a choker, you're a choker. we can't have that. we can't take any chances in this country. >> how long -- now that the votes are in, do you think that people should start leaving this race? >> i think so. it's not for me to say. i think a few of them, maybe they should. you know, marco, i'm 20 points up on him in florida, and with
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cruz, it seems like the last one, i'm even and winning every other state. >> it seems like it was more rubio going at you than senator cruz. what did you think about that? yeah, i think so. i think it's going to be over very quickly and i don't think there's going to be a convention. >> it seems like marco rubio was more intent on going after you than even senator cruz. what do you think? >> i was a little surprised, but i thought it was fine. >> did he show you a toughness? >> i think he's the same basic person. then i look at him and he's pouring sweat. i don't know what the problem is. he's pouring down sweat. we have to have somebody who doesn't sweat. we have to have somebody who when they walk into putin's office or putin walks into our office or we deal with the chinese, they know what they are doing. we need somebody who has what he hasn't got. >> sometimes you like to use tough lang certainly in tweets. but tonight they say you weren't doing it. they say you were doubling down on your positions.
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>> i think it was intentional because i'm leading by so much. honestly it got me hee. look, i'm somebody who went to the best college and got very good marx. policy is easy. we started out with 17 people. we're down to five. that got me there. now i think i have a little bit of a different attitude. >> do you think the race is over for the nominations? >> no, i'd never say it's over. it's never over till it's over as our friend would say, yogi, right? i love the bloomberg poll. we're leading by tremendous numbers. >> they came at you tonight about something that's really in your control, which is the tax returns. mitt romney during the debate was bringing up your taxes. >> let me explain about mitt. mitt is a guy who was a horrible candidate. he lost a race that should have been won and it should have been won easily. i don't know what happened. he like disappeared the last two months. but when mitt gave his tax returns just so you understand, it was about six months from now in 2012.
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it was exactly september 21st. that's when he gave his tax return. we're in a different world. so, you know, mitt is just trying to remain relevant. nobody's talking to him much anymore. he got some publicity today. the one problem i have is i'm always audited by the irs, which i think is very unfair. i don't know, maybe because of religion, maybe because of something else, maybe because i'm doing something else. >> what do you mean religion? >> maybe because of the fact i'm a strong christian and i feel strongly about it. >> do you think you're being audited for being a strong christian? >> you see what's happened. many groups have been complaining about it for a long time. >> what about the ones that aren't audited? this seems like an easy answer for you. >> i can't do that. we have to put it together in a very unified way. they all relate to each other. i don't know if you have the picture, the ones that relate to the ones later. it doesn't make sense. >> you know what you would do with this issue if somebody else had it.
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you would say, what are you talking about? the tax returns, just put it out. >> nobody that's under a regular audit -- i mean it's a regular audit. i think for 12 years, 10 years, 12 years, i get audited. nobody would ever put out their returns that's under an audit. it's very unfair i'm audited all the time. by the way, i always pass the audit. >> excuse me. why wouldn't you put it out if you're being audited so people would understand. >> of course, you wouldn't. your lawyers would never allow you to do that. it's a very simple audit. i think it perhaps will go fast and perhaps it won't. and when it's complete, you've got them, i love it. i think until the audit's done, you certainly wouldn't do that. >> have you heard anything from former mexican president vicente fox? >> i think he should apologize. i would not use that disgusting word. if i did, i wouldn't be allowed on the stage. >> you do see the irony of
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saying that. >> i think he should apologize to a lot of people who heard that word. that was a very -- i heard t this afternoon. i couldn't believe it. >> how do you feel after tonight? >> i feel a great. i think we're doing so well. i think the debate was really one of my best debates despite the fact i was being hit from all sides. >> it was a good test. >> it was a really good test. i enjoyed it. >> chris, fascinating interview there post debate with donald trump. he said things he didn't even say on the debate stage. the pun dentary pun d punditry, they say he won. what was the feeling in the room last night? >> i'll tell you what. that crowd had a lot of energy going on because it wasn't that big a crowd. now, look. people who are going to spin it, you know, the pundits are in the business of having an opinion. they're in the business of keeping the race going. you know, you have to read all
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reviews through that light. this isn't like a car race where you can say objectively who won and who duldn't. did rubio discover a side of himself last night? it seemed that way. it's certainly different than when christie put him on his back. what does that mean in terms of the net positive? does he wind up taking trump voters? i don't know. does he wind up taking a strength of his own with all the skepticism around him? probably so. did he do cruz's handiwork and therefore not being the positive force he usually tries to be in these. you have to look a at it through the lens of what matters and that's very objective. >> this morning marco rubio is continuing that line of attack on donald trump. he was calling him a con artist. hi was on another morning show. will it me play that for you. >> a con artist takes over the rupp party and conservative movement and we have to put a stop to it. he fights for the working
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people. if any other candidate in this race had his record there would be non-stop reporting on it. of course, he's being pump ud because many know he'll be beat. we're going to put a stop to it now. the's no way we're going to allow a con artist to take over the conservative move-month-old and donald trump is a con art t artist. >> it seems like marco rubio has found his voice and found his phrase calling trump a con artist. >> yowl heard trump called him a choke artist. >> you have to believe people lose when the campaign is inherentlying innive and personal. my question to you is does it smack a little familiar for marco rubio to being pushed by the media as some type of alternative or something new? isn't that what he was benefiting from a couple of weeks ago? >> i don't know. it sounds to me like he's found his voice in being more
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aggressive against trump. i had talked to his top adviser yesterday who said he would be going against trump and marco rubio fulfilled that promise, i would say last night. chris, much more from you there in houston about the raucous night. stick around if you would. we do want to get do some breaking news. overnight there's been a terrible workplace shooting in rural kansas leaving three people dead, 14 others wounded. cnn's roy za rosa flores is live. what have you learned? >> reporter: i spoke to the sheriffs a little while ago. they're still processing. they have to interview between 150 and 200 people to try to figure out what the motive is. now, the sheriff also tells me that they obtained a warrant for this subject's home and that they are working on exercising that warrant, trying to figure out if there are any clues
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inside his home. breaking overnight, a gunman who stormed a small manufacturing company in a small town killing three people and wound 14 others. >> law enforcement exchanged gunfire and they shot and killed the shooter. >> reporter: identified by a co-worker as 38-year-old cedric ford. >> witnessed him shoot the shots. i saw the shell casings come out of the assault rifle. >> reporter: authorities receiving a call about a man shooting from a vehicle. one person shot in the shoulder. another reportedly shot in the leg. minutes later, ford allegedly entered excel industries where he work and clocked in early. proceeding town load the long gun on almost 150 people in the building at the time. authorities saying victims were randomly shot. >> we heard a pop pop and we
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just thought it was metal falling on the ground and then the doors opened. people started screaming, coming out. >> he was just unloading on everybody. and i told the girls working on my line, let's go, let's run. >> police arriving on the scene just minutes after the gunman opened fire. the first police officer on scene single-handedly taking down the shooter. witnesses to the gruesome bloodbath in shock. >> nerve in a million years something you'd imagine would happen. >> reporter: those who knew the shooter grasping for answers. >> i wouldn't think he would have done that. i mean loved his kids. he's a good guy. >> reporter: now, as authorities continue to look for a motive in this case, the sheriff tells us that at 3:30 yesterday, the subject was served with a protection from abuse. the first shot, the sheriff tells us, was at about 5:00. alisyn. >> rosa, please keep us updated if you find out anything more
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two very different styles of going after trump on display last night in the big gop debate. rubio was going right at him barb for barb but senator ted cruz was doing something else. he was making a case against donald trump in the moment, going after specifically his conservative credentials. take a listen. >> donald is right. he is promising if he's elected, he will go and cut deals in washington. he's right. he has supported deals. he's given hundreds of thousands
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of dollars to democrats. anyone who really cared about illegal immigration wouldn't be hiring illegal immigrants. anybody who really cared about illegal immigration wouldn't be funding harry reid and nancy pelosi, wouldn't be funding the gang of eight. >> ted cruz, theory of the case last night was very clear. donald trump is not a conservative and if you put him into a general election, he makes this party vulnerable. did it stick? well, let's get some confirmation this morning from ted cruz's communications director alisilailson stoord se. >> you've got it right. >> whoo. >> he has a lifetime of donating to candidates. as ted cruz did last night, held
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him accountable. asked him the questions directly and he did as he always does, he calls him a liar, changes the jikt, attacks the merger, and i think it was quite effective. we did learn last night on several fronts, donald trump supports socialized medicine. he has always supported socialized medicine the same a bernie sanders. that's not what this country needs. >> are you drawing from that that donald trump said he won't be let people die on the sidewalks? >> when he was asked the question -- >> he said he wouldn't let people die on the sidewalks. >> he never answered the question. that's the key. another key distinction was he shares the same view when it comes to our a greatest ally in the east is israel as hillary clinton and he says donald's position on that is we should remain neutral. no, we should not remain neutral in the issue. those are important issues to the american people and as ted
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said, when you say that you're strong on the immigration issue, you don't have a lifetime of hiring illegal immigrants. it's disingenuous and contradictory to say you will stand firm on the immigration issue when your own actions in your past have been to hire illegal immigrants. >> another high-profile angle that senator cruz took last night is there's a reason that democrats want and/or like donald trump including senator harry reid. let's play that. >> there is a reason why when harry reid was asked of all the people on the stage, who does he like the most, harry reid said donald trump. why? because donald trump has sun ported him in the past and he knows he can cut a deal with him. >> now, the last part of that is why i'm playing it. i'm not doing it just to boost cruz. what happened there was as a form of attack, he's saying, donald will cut deals with these
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guys. isn't there a dank over doing that, that you're sending a message loudly and clearly that ted cruz will not compromise about anything with anybody. how can you get anything done? >> you can get a lot done by standing firm on your principles and not wavering on that. and another devout democrat has said he would be a good candidate. he would do whatever the democrats would say. the way you make your case in washington, if there's others that don't agree with you, you take it to the people. that's what ronald reagan did when he wanted to get something done and was facing opposition. he took it to their bosses, the people, and created a movement with the people. >> he worked a lot with the other size as well. they worked a lot. make the case for why ted cruz -- the green egs and ham brought him to public consciousness. a very stark demonstration of
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his resolve to gum up the works and have nothing happen in the name of principle. is that progress? >> well, standing firm on principle is something that should be commended in washington. as he said last night. standing firm to protect the constitution as second tried to get him to back down on that. he will never apologize for standing firm on the constitution. he'll never apologize or back down on standing firm on principle. >> it sounds like a supreme court justice statement than a politician. you have to work with people who don't like what you want and why. so what do you do in those situations? >> as i said, when he's elected as he was as u.s. senator, he runs on certain principles. standing firm on the constitution, working to renew obama care, the flat tax will help with the economy and abolishing the irs. >> as one of 100, you be a stalwart. it works. it's worked for ted cruz.
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that's why he's where he is right now. as president you don't believe you have to have a certain skill set to get things done? >> certainly. when he's elected they know one thing's for sure, he's going to stand firm on his principles and people will come to the table. that's part of the process, bringing people to the table, listening to both sides, and if the ball isn't moved down the field, you take it to the people. that's why currently right now he's pulling well in texas. we're expecting to have a great night next week. we're expecting to have a great night through super tuesday. i think one of the key takeaways as we head into march 1st, ted's doing well here. other states. to do well in the- marco rubio is behind in his own home state of florida. donald trump is beating him by double digits in florida and i think the key of what we saw last night is the candidates needed to make their case, that they can stand up to donald trump. ted is the only one who's taken on donald trump and beaten him
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in the iowa caucus and he's the only one to the american people who can take on hillary clinton. as we pointed out last night donald trump can't go against hillary clinton on the health care issues. >> that was his case last night. >> absolutely. ted can. he can stand up to the health care issues and issues on economy and israel. >> thank you very much. i need you to come back on "new day." you have to tell me the story of the handshakes between ted cruz and marco rubio behind donald trump's back during breaks. >> that's a good story. >> he said, look at that victory. there's going to be a lot more than that and it's proof latinos love me. there's a new poll that give as new perspective straight ahead. technology. technology... say, have you seen all the amazing technology in geico's mobile app? mobile app? look.
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donald trump's rivals slamming the gop front-runner on his immigration policy during cnn's debate last night as a new poll tells us what? the brash billnaionaire is not doing as well with latino voters, at least as well as he says he is. it's a great to have you with me this morning. >> thanks so much for having me. >> that poll, let's pop it up there again. not a pretty story for donald trump. >> no. >> not a pretty story for anyone. trump really big, 80%, 70%
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saying that they find him objectionable. your take. >> these not surprising. that's something latino analysts have been saying for a along time. he's just not popular with latinos. >> then wide did he win in nevada with latinos? >> it's extremely small. the fact that he got over 44%, 45% really doesn't mean much. you cannot conclude anything from his -- from the results in nevada really. >> but if he got 70%, 80% who say they don't like him that seems to resonate around this idea how he feels about immigrants, he would say only illegal immigrants, and people would say that's illegal and undocumented. how do 45% have such a different perspective in nevada? >> again, i think we cannot conclude too much from nevada. it's a very particular caucus. the sample, that number came from a sample from entrance and
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exit polls of about 158 latino voters, so we cannot generalize or make any broad conclusions from those results. >> and you would know. this is your business and your passion is understanding where that community is and why. now, a big flashpoint just came up again, literally on the same day as the debate with former mexican president vicente fox. let's remind everybody of what would be the right word -- vociferously, passionately vicente fox talked about not wanting to pay for a wall and why. here it is. >> i declare i'm not going to pay for >> i declare, i'm not going to pay for if a [ bleep ] wall. he should pay for it. he got the money. >>y wall just got ten feet tall er. >> if i'd have used half of that word it could be a scandal, this guy used a filthy word on te
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television and should be ashamed of himself and say i'm sorry. >> vicente fox is not the president. a strong representative example of the nationalistic feels of many mexican on this issue. the way this plays out what is the plus/minus on courting latinos? any upside in holding this position? >> not at all. last night trump did well in policing his base. that 30% or 35% -- >> maybe even helps him. >> those who oppose immigration reform, it's about 30% to 35%. those voters are very loyal to trump, they've been with him from the beginning of his campaign. the problem is that, again, if you look -- and this survey after survey shows this, his unfavorability rating with
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latinos remains very high. the gop nominee, no way to get enough latino support to win battleground states like florida, colorado. i said if he becomes the nominee, clearly, he cannot win the white house, because he wouldn't have the latino vote that's necessary to get there. people say that, a republican candidate would need around 40% of the latino vote nationally to win the white house. donald trump is not get there. having said that, we saw not every candidate is like donald trump like democrats like to say. >> who's the best -- >> marco rubio. you have governor kasich and marco rubio supporting legalization. >> not last night. rubio had a strong position, using it against trump. >> no, no. well -- he was saying that donald trump flip-flopped, which is true, also on immigration. >> that trump would let people back in and rubio was finding that objectionable, and allowing to become citizens.
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>> yes. >> but rubio that been very consistent from the begins he supports legalization. he's not changing his decision, he's changing tactics. saying, let's try -- with the current environment in congress to get immigration reform done, secure the borders and then have status for illegal immigrants. find it frustrating when all republican candidates are like donald trump but we saw even dr. carson, provide a six-month period to register and eventually have a path to legal status. >> that's why we want you here. to make a case for the party and the impact it's having. >> thank you. >> come back again. >> i will. >> alisyn? getting ready for the oscars this sunday, how will host chris rock handle the diversity, the
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controversy. that's coming up with michaela pereira. talk to you in a minute.
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are interested in seeing how the show's host, chris rock, will handle the oscars so white controversy. our own michaela pereira is on the red carpet in hollywood with an oscars preview. mikaela, great to see you. what are you paying attention to this weekend? >> so much, but you mentioned, chris rock, not known to shy away from controversy. word is, he is working his material around town, takes his craft seriously and you best believe he is very aware of the temperatures in the nation. chris rock returning as host of the academy awards for the second time. >> what's easier and better than presenting? come in, do something funny, get outta there. >> reporter: he sat down with a hollywood reporter over all 20 acting nominees being white. >> a decent monologue, and be funny, two or three other times throughout the show, you'll be fine. if you get off on the wrong
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foot, though, it's a real hard hole to dig yourself out of. >> reporter: sunday will be the first time hearing from the comic since some actors called to boycott the show and rock to step down as host. steve harvey made this play on thursday. >> he has got to host the show. i want you to be so black that you represent the 40 actors that ain't coming that night. >> reporter: vice president joe biden will be there pushing the white house's campaign against sexual assault presenting lady gaga's performance of "timm it happ til it happens to you" and leonardo icaprio, nominated five times. and playing rocky balboa, a role nominated for 39 years ago. >> i've been in the world 37 hours. >> reporter: oscar newcomer brie
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larson for "room." >> mikaela, an exciting night. some are tuning in for the controversy, some for the movies, but some tune in for the glamour and the outfits. >> reporter: like us. >> i can't believe you left new york without show meeg the dress you'll you'll be wearing. >> oh, darling. i brought two. i almost wore the exact same dress as another person on our hour. roll the dice. which color i feel like. i'm not the only person on the red carpet, by the way. the media is already here. friends from the media. you can start to feel the energy here as the sun eventually will begin to come up, we're going to feel the excitement building. the big difference last year, from a red carpet coverage, dry as a bone. not a lick of rain and we could not be happier. >> making it easier.
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can't wait to watch your coverage. thanks for the preview here. following a lot of news. let's get right to it. >> this guy's a joke artist and this guy's a liar. >> if he builds the wall the way he built trump tower he'll be using illegal immigrant laber to do it. >> i get a little with everybody. you get along with nobody. >> when i was leading the fight he was firing someone on "celebrity apprentice." >> i know you're embarrassed, but keep swinging. >> selling watches and -- >> having a lot of fun. >> donald, relax. >> go ahead, relax. you're the basket case. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. the sun is coming up, but the walls of that hall still
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reverberating with what happened last night. good morning. welcome to your "new day." it is friday, february 26th, 8:00 in the east now. we're in houston. alisyn is in new york and the cnn republican debate really became more than anyone expected. an all-out brawl. sparks flying from jump, feisty marco rubio ripping into donald trump on foreign policy, health care and for the workers that he hires, but trump holding firm with just four days to go before super tuesday. the race for the republican nomination starting to resemble a street fight, alisyn. >> right. trump had a bull's-eye on his back from the beginning, rubio and ted cruz hitting the billionaire front-runner with everything in their arsenal. for more on the fireworks and fallout from last night's debate we turn to the best political team on television starting with houston. what did they miss if they didn't get to watch the whole thing? >> at times felt like a cage
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fight pushed forward by a newly aggressive marco rubio going for broke against donald trump. an all-out war of insults and put-downs, breaking out in the final gop debate before super tuesday. >> you're the only person on this stage that's ever been fined for hiring people to work on your projects illegally. >> no, no. i'm the only one on the stage that's hired people. you haven't hired anybody. >> reporter: marco rubio and ted cruz worried about donald trump's trifecta of wins in the last three republican contests. unleashing an onslaught of attacks against the front-runner, from illegal immigration -- >> when i was leading the fight against the gang of eight amnesty bill, where was donald? he was firing dennis rodman on "celebrity apprentice." >> if he builds the wall the way he built trump towers using immigrant laber to do it. >> reporter: to u.s. trade relations with china and mexico. >> the second thing about the trade war i don't understand, because your ties and the
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clothes you make is made in mexico and china. you'll be starting a trade war against your own ties and suits. >> devalue their currency to such an extent our businesses cannot compete with them. our workers lose their jobs. >> and that's why -- in russia. >> you're a -- >> i don't know ago about bankrupting -- you lied about the polish workers. >> yeah, yeah. 38 years ago. >> let's set up -- >> lied 38 years ago. i guess there's a statute of limitations on lies. >> reporter: to obama care. >> many different plans. competition, so many different plans. >> now he's repeating himself. >> no, i'm not repeat -- no, no, no. no. i watched him repeat himself five times four weeks ago. >> i heard you repeat yourself five seconds ago. >> i watched him melt down on a stage like i've never seen anybody. thought he came out of the swimming pool. >> let talk about your plans -- >> every night, tiv things, everyone's dumb he's going to
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make america great again. >> senator, rubio, please, please stop. >> and every night. same thing. >> reporter: and hillary clinton -- >> first of all, talking about the polls, i'm beating him awfully badly in the polls. >> but you're not beating hillary. >> i don't know. then -- if i can't beat her you're really going to get killed. aren't you? let me ask you this. i know you're embarrassed, you're embarrassed but keep swinging, keep fighting. >> reporter: lashing out at both snar senators at the same time. >> you are all talk and no action. what i've seen up here, first of all, this guy's a joke artist are and this guy's a liar. >> this guy always go -- >> a combination of factors. he can't do it for the obvious reason and he can't do it because he doesn't mow how to tell the truth. i know politicians, believe it or not, better than you do, and it's not good. >> oh no. i believe you know politicians much better than i do because
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for 40 years you've been funding liberal democratic politicians. >> i fauunded you. >> you're welcome to have the check back, because let's get clear. >> donald, relax. >> go ahead. i'm relaxed. >> you're the basket case. go ahead. go ahead. don't get nervous. >> and the dust still very much settles after all of that action last night. the big question now turns to, how does this change the dynamic of this race going forward? of course, chris, as we know, four days before the big day, super tuesday. >> boy, no question that people wanted to have a big night and they came out. you could smell the desperation in the air last night. and part of it was, you had senators marco rubio and ted cruz functioning like an old school wrestling malachi crunch, coming out of opposite corners trying to crush trump in the middle, but did it work? let's discuss. cnn political commentator kevin madden is here. cnn political commentator and former communications director for senator ted cruz, amanda
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carpenter and cnn political commentator, former white house political director for ronald reagan, jeffrey lorde, a donald trump supporter. so amanda, look at last night. do you accept my premise, seemed at times concerted action from these two senators coming at the man in the middle? >> yeah. someone waiting for this to happen i think me and many other people were happy to see it in some respects ted cruz and marco rubio teaming up on donald trump. >> why? >> listen, the republican party has been from youred so long even though i think donald trump is the biggest threat to the party, ironically i think he'll unite us against him. people see he is slowly becoming inevitable if something big doesn't happen. ted cruz teaming up with marco rubio. mitt romney out of the sidelines. we agree donald trump has to be stopped. >> not all of you. but not all of you, jeffrey lorde, last primary, 45% of the vote. ahead in just about all polls
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that matter, not here in texas, by the way, but many of them. what do you think the state of play is of the party as reflected on the stage last night? >> on the verge of a trump sweep, if you will. look at poll after poll after poll. one state after another here, and he's far ahead. not just ahead, far ahead. >> you didn't think it changed the game last night? >> i don't think so. i really don't. i'm not sure we're at a stage -- this is, what, debate ten? just about run the debate thread here. >> madden, i could hear you. you sounded like howard cosell last night doing call by call on this debate. what do you think all waound up in this fictitious scoreboard after all of these? rubio's points on jabs landed or trump's ability to take punches? >> the headline rubio -- he got the headlines he wanted out of this. in a debate if you're not on offense you're losing, and marco rubio and ted cruz took the fight last night and started, for the first time, begin to expose a lot of donald trump's
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vulnerabilities. the question is, was it enough? >> who does it help? >> i think to what jeffrey said, momentum is a tremendously valuable commodity and donald trump because of winning the, three of the last four, has a lot of momentum. for marco rubio and ted cruz, the key is to not let their tactics stop just in that debate. today, tomorrow, the next day. all the way through these next contests they have to take the same, exact approach if they're going to -- be able to reverse donald trump's current trajectory. >> first, people are asking, online, hey, why didn't you have the candidates on? why did you do trump last night? we had invitations out to all three of these men all the time. okay? it's about who takes the oaf of marco rubio seemed to have found ace voice. >> the truth it is possible no one gains the 1236, 1,236
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delegates knows win. look at the way it's going now, no one may have that number of delegates. that in and of itself would trigary convention after the first round delegates are free to vote for whom ever they want. i would not prefer that the case. much rather have someone win the nomination in this process, not a con artist like donald trump. >> to add more math to it, we've counted marco rubio used the word con artist at least eight times in his sound machine this morning. interesting. a little bit of a double entendre. first word in con man stands for confidence, and donald trump certainly has that. look at his tweet this morning from response to what rubio put out. lightweight marco rubio was working hard last night. he's a choker. once a choker always a chalker, mr. meltdown. now, jeffrey, obviously, you know, there's a little typo, no big deal. twitter, ugliest place in the -- last night in terms of
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confidence and what he wanted to project, showed his head on a swivel, took shots at both at least once and after-action interview said this tax thing, not an issue. can't release it. being audited, a little new layer on his story and thinks he's being audited, wait for it, because of his strong christian values. you sit there looking at me with a straight face, which is one of the most remarkable qualities i've ever noted in a man before. explain that situation to me. >> christopher, two words. lowest learner. the credibility -- >> is that me? >> the credibility of the irs is less than zero. do you know how many people. >> because of his christian faith? >> people of this country do not trust the irs. plain and simple. how many congressional investigations have we had? how many problems do we have? how often do we know that they deliberately targeted people for their political beliefs? anything is believable, and you've got people all over this country looking, well if they can go after donald trump
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they're sure coming after me. they may not have to sign a whole stack of tax returns like think, but it's equally complicated. >> does that work on this disclosure issue, kevin madden? it does smell a little odd. not just the auditing part, but telling hillary clinton show me the e-mails, the speeches. don't keep things from people? how does this play? >> like he's trying to run out the clock on this. every day he goes without a level of disclosure on the taxes, particularly while marco rubio and ted cruz released their tax returns, becomes another day, potentially, voters begin to think he's hiding something. that's a problem. from experience during the 2012 campaign, used against mitt romney, people questioned whether or not they could trust him. this is a potential vulnerability for donald trump and could get worse every day he doesn't disclose. >> you're shaking your head, yes? you think it's a big deal? i don't know what they would show. >> adds up. thinking marco rubio going really hard, a con artist and thinking ted cruz sayinging again and again essentially he's
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a washington deal mamaker that l sell out republicans. the idea you can't trust this guy. >> what do you see in his taxes? not worth as much as he says? that's not what taxes show. not a net asset, just earnings for one year. >> he's made a big part of the reason he should be president, successful and wealthy. >> he's wealthy. >> the other thing about the tax are tos, a big issue that donald trump has donated to liberal organizations like planned parenthood in the past. >> even that -- >> in the past. we don't know how much. >> we dealt with all of this stuff before. big shots like him don't donate often personally. they do it through a foundation, through a corporation. i don't get the bombshell aspect of this. >> yeah. >> and -- >> look, there may be one. anything's possible. why not put them out? >> one of those things, donald trump defies gravity than a traditional candidate would. voters that support him now seem to rationalize away even some of the things they don't like about
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him. if he didn't make as much money as he said he did and maybe paid a much lower rate than them, they may find a way to explain that away. the idea this is a bombshell, we'll have to wait and see. >> again, chris, donald trump is an established personality cultural figure good for what? 30, 40 years? whatever it is. the american people think they know him. i just the don't see -- if this kind of allegation were out there about ted cruz or marco rubio, i think that could hurt, because they're not established -- >> ironic, donald trump went around calling ted cruz a liar because of a loan from goldman sachs, said it didn't add up. the only reason anybody knows about that loan, it was disclosed on a senate disclosure form. others have gone through this vetting, standard operating procedure. the fact donald trump won't subject himself to it raises a lot of questions. >> saying he will. the question, when? >> when it's too late. september. against hillary. >> your opinion. don't dominate my discussion. great to have you all here.
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alisyn, back to you. >> okay, chris. talk about the democratic side of the race. the candidates making their final pitch to voters in south carolina, ahead of tomorrow's primary. hillary clinton leading bernie sanders by a wide margin goal into that state, but sanders is undeterred. cnn's joe johns is live in columbia, south carolina kaurl wi with the latest. >> reporter: the messaging team for hillary clinton over the last 24 hours or so has been putting out a lot of stuff about the republicans trying to position their candidate as a general election candidate. here on the ground in south carolina, it's been all about getting out the vote. the former secretary of state and her husband bill clinton traversing south carolina trying to do all they can to get the numbers up on saturday, and then move into super tuesday. they'll be joined today here in south carolina by their daughter chelsea. meanwhile, for bernie sanders,
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he was out in the midwest over the last 24 hours, going to ohio, going to illinois, and also flint, michigan. his first appearance there. the scene of that water crisis that has created headlines over the last several weeks. so we're in a position now where hillary clinton is also fending off some criticism about her refusal to release transcripts of her speeches to wall street banks. bernie sanders has been hitting her on that. the "new york times" has also called on her to release those transcripts. she said this morning on another network that she did not feel it was necessary at this time. so -- we continue to follow this, and looking forward to the primary tomorrow. alisyn? >> yes, joe. not seemed inclined to release those transcripts competitors, rivals do the same. thank you for that update. stay with cnn all day tomorrow for complete coverage of the south carolina democratic debate.
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talk about your plan. >> every night. five things. everyone's dumb. he's going to make america great again. >> senator rubio, please. >> and the lines around -- >> please. >> every night.
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same thing. >> i don't know about you, but when i was raised learning how to fight, that's called jab, jab, cross. one of the many ones senator marco rubio threw, and potentially landed, in a fiery cnn republican debate. the first time rubio has looked at trump and taken him on directly. so what was the plus/minus? let's hear from team rubio. alex conan, communications director for marco rubio's campaign and it is good to have you, as always, sir. >> thank you. >> so, hiding the bail a little conan. talking to you, we don't know what we're going to do. i don't know we're not going right at him. you went right at him. what was the strategy and how do you feel it worked? >> an important moment for the republican party. two people with a viable pathway to the nomination. marco rubio and donald trump. republican voters have to decide who will be the face of the conservative movement in the 21st century? donald trump or marco rubio? the time for deciding is now. there's a lot at stake. we wanted to put all cards on the table and let voters make
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that decision. >> why did you wait so long? >> i don't know we waited so long. the time to do it is now. >> momentum, votes, a lead. >> a divided field earlier. not only fighting with donald trump, ted cruz, jeb bush, 15 candidates on the stage competing with donald trump. anyone who doesn't wan donald trump to be the nominee needs to rally around marco rubio now. go to our website, marcorubio.com because now is the time to defeat donald trump. >> rubio, in college, contact athlete. did the chris christie knockdown, he got knocked down in that debate. did that give him a second wind? did he get up and say, like, i got to make sure this never happens again? >> he owned it. a bad moment. on him. he didn't blame anybody else and said it's never going to happen again and obviously it didn't last night. took the fight to trump. >> he used the, repeating
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yourself on -- >> donald trump doesn't know what he's going to do as president of the united states. hasn't laid down specific plans. marco rubio exposed that. we don't know what sort of president donald trump would be. he's been a liberal most of his life. now a conservative trying to con republican voters into nominating him. we don't know what kind of president he will be and marco rubio exposed that last night. >> on the plus/minus side. plus, showed he could stand up to trump. took blows back from trump but wasn't being who he usually is in these debates, which is i'm flot getting into the mud and fighting with you. by changing his game did he help ted cruz doing the heavy hammering work? >> no, i don't think so. right now the republican party, republican voters are looking at who can stand up to donald trump who can beat donald trump? ted cruz tried to do it last night not nearly as effectively, and marco has really the pathway --
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>> how so? beating you over the head with a nool h no poll in florida that has you down and trump and cruz up? >> nobody sees more data, we feel very good about the florida primary. 15 elections before then. we're going to win florida and do very well on tuesday. states that -- we're going to pick up delegates across the -- >> you got to win. sounds simp. >> 51% of delegates going into cleveland. we're confidence we will do that, gaining delegates tuesday and winner taking march 15th and beyond. >> starts march 15th? you're tired of think confess q. you know where it's coming from. seconds don't get you to first. still a guy necessarily a mathematically in front of you? do you think florida is the pivot -- >> states like florida, winner take all states, a lot of delegates at stake, a big deal
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for all campaigns. we feel very good we're going to win florida and winner take all states beyond that. marco rubio is an underdog. i'll concede. marco is the underdog now but been an underdog his entire life. he wasn't born into a billionaire's family or inherit millions of dollars like donald trump did. his mom was a maid. his dad a bartender. he's earned everything he's achieved in his life on his own. that's the american story. voters can relate to that, who we want leading the conservative unit in 291st century. >> who came up with the watch line? marco rubio said last night, if you weren't watching, one of the three in the country who didn't, that if donald trump didn't inherent $200 million from his father, and that question is certainly controversial, that amount, play it. i'm not marco rubio. here it is. >> if he builds the wall the way he built trump towers he'll be using illegal immigrant laber to do it.
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the second -- >> such a cute sound bite. >> not a sound bite. it's a fact. i don't understand, your ties and the clothes you make are made in mexico and china. you'll are starting a trade war against your own ties and suits. >> if he hadn't inherited $200 million, you know where he'd be? selling watches and -- >> wait. i have to say he lied this time. he lied. 100%. >> all right, now. the $200 million would be certainly disputed by trump but that's not the point. the watch line where did it come from? >> on the spot. spontaneous. >> really? >> and big props to our digital team. >> yeah. started pretending with a fake watch ad. >> up on the website within minutes, clever digital team selling fake donald trump watches. people go on the website now, a cracked rolex. the point. donald trump inherited millions from his family, why he has so much money today. marco rubio didn't inherent anything. he only inherited the belief he
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could achieve anything in america, and i think it says a lot that on the stage last night you had donald trump, inherited millions, the other four candidates, none of them inherited anything. the other four candidates on the stage, they all, all achieved everything that they've gotten in life on their own. they are the american story, and it says a lot about our country they can stand on the stage with somebody like donald trump. >> what we know for sure. often people say we're hyping these events, just another debate. this is a big moment. things needed to happen and they did. we'll see how they sort out very, very soon. >> we feel very good about it. >> always good to have team rubio on "new day." and sticking to plans. who president obama will nominate to fist the position on the supreme court. we'll talk with al franken who sits on the senate judiciary
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one last full day of campaigning before south carolina democrats head to the polls for their primary. all polls point to a big win for hillary clinton there. but the super tuesday contests are much closer. joining us now, minnesota senator al franken, a member of the judiciary committee that supports hillary clinton. good morning, senator franken. >> good morning, alisyn. >> let's assume hillary clinton wins south carolina, since all polls suggest she e will and let's talk about super tuesday. polling is much, much closer there'sneck and neck we're told in fib states and too close to call in two states. colorado and your home state, minnesota. so what do many of your fellow minnesotans not know about hillary clinton? why would they not be supporting her? >> well, you know, i'm -- i've been a friend of hillary's for 22 years. i know her very well.
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i actually cut an ad for her talking about her and she's the smartest, hardest working, most experienced, toughest person i know, and she'll be a great president. >> here's what your femme llow, fellow minnesotan, chairman of the democratic labor party says about what he thinks is going to happen in minnesota. he says, i think it's too close to tell. i've work and a lot of presidential campaigns over the years. what will happen here in minnesota will be dictated by what happens in these early states. that's ken morton. i think he's referring to what happens in south carolina. is he suggesting the caucusgoers in minnesota will be swayed by what happens this weekend? >> i don't know. that's all a lot of inside baseball. so -- what will happen will happen. i'm for hillary. >> what do you think will happen in minnesota? >> i'm not a prognosticator.
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that's not my job. i'm on the judiciary committee and would like to talk about if i could, what's going on after the death of antonin scalia and how we know what we're supposed to do in the constitution, the president is supposed to, shall nominate a supreme court nominee, and we in the senate are supposed to give our advice and consent, and that's what we should be doing, and i think this is -- this is unprecedented, what's going on right now, and i would call on chairman grassley to have hearings for whoever the president puts forward. >> let's talk more about that, because you've obviously criticized republicans for being road blocks on the path to nominating someone. but yesterday, our tuesday, i should say, mitch mcconnell on the senate floor said that actually it's his prerogative that they don't have to. listen to this.
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>> presidents have a right to nominate just as the senate has its constitutional right to provide or withhold consent. in this case, the senate will withhold it. >> what's your response to that, senator? >> well that hasn't been the case in the past. that is unprecedented, and since 1916, when we started having in the senate hearings, every, i think over 100 supreme court justice nominees have all had hearings except for 9, and all of those 9 were confirmed within 11 days. so this would set a dangerous precedent, which is saying the senate just gets to -- arbitrarily set a date. the president has a term of four years. that's also in the constitution.
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this sets a very dangerous precedent, and it sets up a court that could be, have a lot of 4-4 ties. business relies on the supreme court. everyone reliesen 0 the supreme court in the united states of america. this is a very, very, very dangerous precedent. >> if the president nominated a republican, would you vote for that person? >> i assume that the president is going to nominate someone who's qualified to be a supreme court justice. someone with a judicial temperament, someone that understands the role of the courts. so i would look at anybody he offers, and this is the reason we have hearings. >> senator, as we've said, you support hillary clinton and yesterday her campaign posted a video to youtube of you reading some mean tweets about you and your support of hillary clinton. let's play a little clip of that.
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>> franken is plugged into the establishment matrix. okay. that -- that sounds painful. and it was. it was. that was part of the enhanced interrogation techniques they did during the bush administration. thank god we stopped doing, plugging people into the establishment mat tricmatrix. >> are there times during this you wish you were back on "snl"? >> no. i watch the show, i enjoy it, but i enjoy in the united states senate even more. >> wow. that is news worthy. senator al franken, thank you very much for being on "new day." >> thank you, alisyn. and a relentless barrage of attacks, discussion of last night's debate. we'll have some republican voters in texas, next. taff coulp staying in touch with customers. at&t can help you stay connected.
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politics, my friends, is often a beautiful example of cause and effect. last night the cause.
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massive disagreements in the form of a gop debate of presidential candidates. jabs thrown throughout. certainly among and between donald trump, marco rubio and ted cruz. so what about the effect on the voters? especially in its all-important state of texas? bring back our panel of voters. kelly horsley, ted cruz supporter. roseanne rodriguez, marco rubio supporter, randy powell, donald trump supporter. first question -- did anything that happened last night change any minds on this panel? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> not at all? >> no. >> so we're all resolved. whom do we think won and why? does anyone here think their person did not win last night? no, no and no. so why did trump do well? >> he had two people attacking him the whole night from both sides. it took two of them to try to bring him down and weren't
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successful. >> remember "the happy days." >> looks like trying to pull his pants down in a playground. terrible. >> ugly imof a. neither of you can like it on many levels. roseanne, start with you, what was going on with your chosen candidate and the impact on the whole panel? >> well, i think mark ereally tereally -- marco really tried to press trump on the issues saying what he really believes. >> did you like the attacking marco? usually says i don't want to get into this dirty fighting thing. let's talk about positive, who we are at our best. not last night. >> he wasn't like that last night. i won't say i agree with it, but it hasn't worked? right? sat back, been flienice. it's time people hear where trump stands on issues. >> so aggressive, boxed out ted
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cruz though he did get to prosecute a case in his own way. your take? >> again, i think ted cruz won last night. i think that marco did do favors for himself and for ted cruz, actually. i think he was the one that kind of opened the door and started swinging, you know, came out swinging on trump. i think that was good. i actually thought this was probably the best debate of the whole, entire cycle, because of that. because of the jabs thrown and punches thrown. >> anybody like kasich last night? he was purely on the positive, all about solutions. showing what it is to be a governor and have executive experience and how that works. you know, at the federal level. did that matter to you? >> no. >> nothing? >> no. you? >> i really respect kasich. i think he's very qualified but with the candidates up there, you have a huge personality, like trump, he's not able to get his message across to the american people. so -- but i respect him. >> i agree with her and i feel the same about carson as well. i mean, i think they're both very thoughtful and both have
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experience, and qualifications that would lead them to that position, but living in a sound bite society and there's just not enough of the, the sound bite or excitement for those two candidates to propel them in the campaign. >> ever worry about getting caught up in what's done there? it's so negative, what's going on. it's so personal. we often say this, in each successive cycle, this is the worst i've ever seen, but i've really never seen anything like what happened on the stage last night. trump say this guys a choke artist and this guy's a liar, and it's working. i look at my social media, people who support, usually negative, negative, i you hate this guy, a radio guy being nasty. rebundant, everybody's so mean on the radio right now. that negativity, does that work for you? >> not at all. >> your guy's the champion of it. >> but he also has to defend himself through all of it.
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>> good or better and you know it. >> he. >> does you don't like the negativity but like the guy who's negative. >> you act like it's a choice. >> you going with media's the enemy? nobody works the media the way trump does. >> no. he does. you're the ones putting it back in, bringing it back up. >> their guys don't want to come on. he wants to be tested and come on. at least when he comes on here. you've been picking friendly forums, spends time with media who give questions in advance than on she like this where he has to stand up for himself. >> he has gotten on the media on every platform i've seen. not all of them. i don't watch them all. >> what do you mean, gotten on the media? >> gotten on the phone, gone on -- >> he puts himself out there. doesn't like it but decided to embrace it. >> i don't think it helps the
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candidates at all and i don't think it hurts them in a way. super tuesday is what what's going to matter. by super tuesday, what happened last night isn't going to matter. >> what do you think about the way the party is pushed by his hostility? >> frightening to see the divisiveness this cycle brought on. marco rubio tried to stay very positive. i think he's the only candidate that can not only unite the party but our country. the country itself is divided. a candidate on the democrat side, both of them pitying, doing identity politics. pitting minorities against whites and a candidate on our side pitting minorities. marco rubio wants to unite the country hashes a positive message. he loves this country and wants to bring us together. >> interesting that a night like last night, everything so fractious, you saw a reason your man came out on top. that is the nature of partisan politic. we'll see the impact, as you said, on this all-important
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hollywood's most glamorous night of the year, oscar night. a lot of buzz about how the host chris rock will tackle the controversies. and michaela pereira joins us from the red carpet in hollywood. great see you. what has chris rock said about how he plans to handles controversy? >> pretty mum. interesting, alisyn. he's been working on material around town, doing stand-up. he's been pretty mum about the topic, we know there's a lot of pressure on him, because, you no it's all about ratings. we know that game. don't we, girl? all about ratings. a lot of money is made from the telecast and all the rights and broadcasting rights, and the paraphernalia it can sell related to oscars. this matters and it matters, too, because of the conversations going on in the nation. chris rock's african-american. the oscars so white hash tag circulating on social media.
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a lot resting on his shoulders. i would say nerve hear a gig been so fraught with tension. right? >> uh-huh. fascinating to watch. how he tackles it. also, lots of eyes on leonardo dicaprio. people want to know if he's going to win his first academy award. do you get the sense people are pulling for him out there? >> yeah. don't you think? i think everywhere is. people like him. a great actor, chosen great roles. a fascinating kind of playboy actor/celebrity. this also seems maybe this is the time momentum is finally here for him. a great american story, took a lot out of his physically and emotionally. a very taxes role we're told, really had to throw himself into, and, you know, is fifth time a charm? maybe. fifth acting nomination. also nominated as a producer. i don't know. could be the year it pays off. >> seems like it. also i want to ask you about lady gaga. >> don't you want to talk about dresses? >> i do want to talk about
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dresses. quickly, interested in the lady gaga song because she wrote it and sang it for "the hunting ground," the cnn campus sex walt assault. interesting performance to watch. >> she is such a powerful advocate. think about it. she has that personal experiential situation, will speak passion knit and sing passionately about it, introduced by vice president joe biden, instrumental in the violence against women. so obviously that's going to be a big deal. look, we have to tell you, we're going to be on the red carpet, don lemon and i, starting at 6:00 p.m. eastern on sunday. we're going to have a pre-show for you. you'll have to tune in for that and monday i will be here giving you all the hits, runs and errors, if you happen to miss it or go to bed early of oscars 2016. a big year and yes, we'll be fabulous. >> can't wait to watch you and don out there.
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the accused shooter of the rampage in kalamazoo, michigan taken down by a sharp-eyed deputy. this week's "beyond the call of duty." >> reporter: one saturday night in kalamazoo, eight shot, six dead. a manhunt under way to find the person pulling the trigger. police knew they were looking for a certain car. >> noticed a dark colored, appeared to be a chevy -- >> reporter: this deputy started checking the license plate. >> by happenstance and god's great i came up to the light and spotted the vehicle mamp aring the description. >> reporter: the car was the one every officer in the state wanted to find. >> the vehicle wasn't driving erratically, he was obeying speed limits. >> reporter: the deputy tailed the car several miles waiting for the right moment to pull the car over. >> right here i activated my lights to make a traffic stop. >> reporter: harrison a 16-year
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veteran of the force already called for backup. >> when he didn't stop right away it kind of brought my suspicions up a little bit. get out of the car. get our guns in low ready position, giving verbal commands for the subject to display his hands out the window. after the first two attempts, not complying. third time i yelled, please, put your hands out the window, he did. >> reporter: the officer then start to carefully approach the car. >> at that time started to reach back, like he was going for his seat belt. i told him, not to move his hands and politely helped him out of the car. >> at this point did he say anything to you at all? >> nothing was said. >> while patting the person down i observed what appeared to be a handgun in his pocket which i did take out of his pocket, place it on the top of the vehicle. >> reporter: soon another officer positively identifies jason dalton as the shooting suspects they were looking for. >> surprised it went the way it
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did. >> reporter: this community rattled by a shocking murder spree, taking comfort in the fact he and his fellow officers brought a night of horror to an end. >> glad and relieved that we had found him as fast as we did. it wasn't just my efforts. every single law enforcement officer working that night was actively trying to find this individual. >> all right. that does it for "new day" this week. with carol costello starts now. >> have a great weekend, alisyn. "newsroom" starts now. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. i give you the republican debate. >> if he builds the wall the way he built trump towers healed be using illegal immigrant labor to do it. >> so cute. such a cute sound bite. >> there are people that borrow $36,000 to go to trump university, and they're suing himow

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