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6:00 object the dot and we are just one hour away from the polls opening in the south carolina democratic primary. good morning, everyone. we're so grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. victor blackwell in south carolina. good morning, victor. >> good morning, christi. yes, we're hours away from opening the polls. bernie sanders and hillary clinton, of course, fighting for
every last vote and so far clinton is leading by a wide margin. she spent most of the week campaigning hard, of course. this afternoon she's in alabama before heading back to south carolina for the watch party tonight. after a concert and rally last night, bernie sanders looking ahead to campaigning in texas and minnesota today. cnn correspondent jeff zelledy following their campaigns. jeff. >> reporter: they're certainly not counting on a win. he's been across the country in illinois, minnesota. he's going to spend tonight in minnesota as well. looking ahead to those super tuesday contests next week. but it gave him a chance to reach out to a more diverse part of his democratic electorate. he did not spend as much time here as some of his advisers
would have hoped he would. he notice thad to keep going in this contest he needs to do well. we'll see if he does well here, but south carolina is feeling so different than it did eight years ago when it was hillary clinton outside the state not remaining when barack obama won this contest. bernie sanders looking beyond south carolina for the next wave of races next week. victor? >> jeff, thank you so much. hillary clinton is expected to win here in south carolina. she's hoping it's a decisive win, large margin. we've been on the ground in south carolina and i've been around speaking with voters in columbia to find out who they plan to vote for and why. watch. if you've chosen a candidate for the primary tomorrow, who's that candidate? >> i'm voting for hillary clinton. >> tell me why. >> all right. i think if she says she can get things done, she has experience on a lot of different levels.
>> experience, progressive valuesing and foreign policy experience. >> are you leaning in a direction? >> yes. >> toward him. >> hillary. >> why? >> i just like her. i think she's the best person for the office. she can walk right in and take over. she's used to everything. >> i don't have no choice. >> why? >> she's helping with the black issues. >> i feel like in this moment, it's bernie's time. i love what he says about the prison reform and reforming our economy and i honestly believe that hillary did not speak adamantly about black lives matter issues until bernie brought it into the forefront. >> i think she represents -- wants to represent all americans, and she has been working since a young adult for
minority minorities, for women, for the rights of unborn children, and i think she would be fair and have some wisdom because of her experience. >> hillary, you know what i'm saying, she seems like she basically had obama's back, you know what i'm saying. that was good enough for me. when you've got his back, i've got yours. >> let's bring in a hillary clinton supporter and a bernie sanders supporter. >> reporter: i want everyone to know that we spoke to people at random and those are the people that spoke and those are the answers we got. let's start with the final number tonight. hillary clinton is expected to win. how important is the margin? >> i think she's going to do
very, very well. the margin is important, but we're seeing it across the country. we've seen it in florida, across the polls. as a matter of fact, i think we've seen every one of those people the past couple of days. no question about it. >> bernie sanders, he wants the margin to be as narrow as possible. how important is that? >> it's important but only to a certain degree. there's only one candidate that has to win south carolina and that's not bernie sanders. south carolina is about closing the gap. i think he will do that. >> can he get within 10 or 15? >> i would like to see him get within 10 or 15. >> let me stay with you and voter turnout and bernie sanders. bernie sanders struggling to make inroads into the black community. a large portion is
african-american here. why is he struggling here, and if he continues to struggle here, will he continue to strug snl. >> i won't say he's necessarily quote/unquote struggling. i think he's done his part in the clinton recognition. not many have met people from vermont down here. what you've seen is over time the more people have gotten to know bernie sanders and the more he's gotten out his message, the more he's turning in. there are a lot of undecided voters in this state. i think that is what this race is going to hinge on here in south carolina. >> you know what i heard last week when i was here for the republican primary is so many people make up their mind when they get into the booth. >> i'm sure. >> they take a moment then. >> we've heard from senator sanders and now "the new york times" to call for the release of the transcripts of those speeches to wall street. let's put up a portion of those -- "the new york times" op-ed.
public interest in these speeches is legitimate and it's the public not the candidate who decides how much disclosure is enough. by stonewalling on these transcripts police clinton makes the decision and. is all this damaging her credibility? i mean you know she has a trustworthy problem. if there's nothing there, why release them? >> this is absolutely rid lick does. they planted three false stories about hillary clinton that she was under investigation, not true. front pack, that her personal server was illegal. not true. she was doing favors from the state department. not true. why doesn't "the new york times" go to donald trump and say release all your transcripts. senator sanders, why don't you
release all the papers when you were out there on the yacht and talking about wall street. it's also amazing, victor. it's a double standard. she's been in the public office, public life for 40 years. can you imagine releasing transcripts as simple as they are. you're going to read i went to the bank one day and made a deposit. they're going take that and say -- >> let me hear from justin. justin, your thoughts on these transcripts. >> well, you know, here's the thing. when you're running to be president and you're running to lead the citizens of this country, you know, if people have concerns, i don't see any harm in actually addressing t m them, you know. people look at bernie sanders and 100% of them said bernie sanders is honest and
trustworthy. one of the concerns they have about hillary clinton is which version of hillary clinton are we going to get? the new version, the 1990s version, the one before bernie sanders started to pick up speed or the post bernie sanders has support versus hillary clinton. you know, if there's no harm, no foul there, i don't see a problem releasing them, but that's going to be her decision. >> let's get your response on the robert reich, bill clinton's former labor secretary overnight endorsed hillary clinton's campaign. i think that's far too small for the screen. he said he'll support hillary clinton if she's nominated but he believes, and i'm paraphrasing here, that bernie sanders is the candidate he's going to support and he's the democratic supporter for this cyc cycle. that has to be a blow for the
clintons. >> she's gotten so many endorsements. >> but this is a cabinet member. >> she's gotten the endorsement of so many cabinet members. you know what i think the media should do? i think the media should look at donald trump, they should look at bernie sanders, ask them to release various papers. go to marco rubio and ask him to release his papers. oh, i forgot. he's never had a job. >> this is a clinton cabinet mem who s member. >> everyone has their opinion. i think bernie sanders has done a great job of growing the narrative and bringing more people under the tent. i think the clinton people believe that in the next two or three months this gap is going to show that secretary clinton is going to win the nomination. >> thank you both.
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again and likely to step up the personal attacks that started on thursday night at the debate and then carried through friday. sara murray is following that gop infight. >> reporter: two of the biggest brashest personalities in the republican party are teaming up. >> i said let's keep it as a secret for the people in texas. let's do it. >> reporter: donald trump snapping up his most prominent endorsement yet, new jersey governor chris christie. >> he's rewriting the play book of american politics. >> reporter: and trying to shift the momentum back in his corner. >> friends do not let friends vote for con artists. >> reporter: rubio is ratcheting his attacks on the billionaire's business record, even mocking trump's twitter habit. >> how does this guy misspell not one tweet, two tweets so badly.
i've reached one of two conclusions. that's how they spell those words at wharton where he went or he must have hired his own foreign worker to do those tweets. last night during one of the breaks, two of the breaks, whemt backstage. he was having a meltdown. first he had this little make junk thing applying makeup around his moustache. then he asked for a full length mirror. i don't know why. maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. i don't know. >> but trump and christie were ready, banding together trying to take down a mutual foe. >> it's rubio. >> reporter: trump taking aim at his performance. >> here's a guy. you had to see him backstage. he was putting on makeup with a
trowel. honestly i thought he was going to die, rubio. he was so scared like a little frightened puppy. >> reporter: and even his appearance. >> i will not say that he was trying to cover up his ears. i will not say that. >> reporter: with christie piling on. >> do we need a united states senator for florida who doesn't show up for work? >> reporter: rubio brushed off the christie news. >> donald probably needed a lifeline and he called in chris christie. i appreciate that. i have my own. >> donald trump is adopting the rhetoric of a populist. donald trump like hillary clinton is a rich new york liberal. >> reporter: but for now, rubio is trump's top foil. >> rubio's a baby but a guy like
that is tougher. >> it is certainly getting nastier. as donald trump goes to sweep his supporters, he eek talk about the sitting govern nors. we saw chris christie and now maine's paul lepage. kayleigh mack anyny. i want to start with you. we know they helped with them about his conservative bona f e fides. it's not like donald trump needs an attack dog. trump does the attacking himself. >> sure. he brings a lot. normally i'm skeptical of endorsements. but with chris christie, this is someone who stood beside donald trump on a debate stage, this is someone who donald trump sparred with and got many disagreements
with, but aside from all of that chris christie said of all the people standing on the stage says, this is the guy who can do it. i think it's because it's his colleague and equal. it shapes his endorsements where he has palin and falwell. it helps to shore up states like massachusetts or virginia, states that probably don't need to be shored up because donald trump is ahead by 20 points but it helps to bring in a different constituency. really, the two elements we're seeing, the establishment on the one hand, the chris christies of the world and the tea party. it brings the two together. it's an important endorsement. >> what's in it for christie? >> that's a good question. i think christie looked at donald trump and said this is a guy who's most like me. he's someone with consecutive
experience. >> does he look at donald trump and see a possible vp slot for himself? >> i think that's probably on everyone's mind but i think donald trump made clear he doesn't know who is going to be vp. christie would to love be a vice president. he would be a very good vice president. we saw his name being floated around with the romney campaign. it's probably on his radar and he'd be a great vp. >> well, chris christie -- you spoke about disagreements moments ago. you once said trump was dead wrong on the ban for the u.s. he said it was the wrong temperntempe tempern'tmetempe temperament for a president. he said that comes from someone with no experience and doesn't know what they're talking about. there are contradictory statements here. i wonder if that trumps donald trump's political correctful, is
that the mantra of his campaign. >> you know, it is interesting. they did have that disagreement, that's exactly right. terrorism is obviously on the forefront and that's a big issue and a disagreement. but i think chris christie when he looked across the stage he said, these are senators but this is someone like me and he ran something. he ran a $10 million brand, he's someone who is ooh hired, made important decisions like chris christie who's written budgets and kept a state safe. i think at the end of the day what mattered most was one executive matter over policy. >> let me ask about governor paul lepage of maine. he's certainly offered some critical comments. i want to read one for you here. he said there were drug dealers coming into maine and impersonating, quote, white women, and said he would bring back the guillotine and public
executions. i mean "the new york times" is calling what we're seeing a bully bromance. is there for trump supporter, a point at which this all goes too far? >> well, that comment certainly goes too far. i think that's unacceptable rhetoric and i do think there's a risk on the campaign trail to push the rhetoric a bit too far. you know, for instarngs it's a little bit different in terms of rhetoric. we're not talking about a guillotine in this instance but some of the sparring we've seen between rubio and trump. a discourse has ratcheting up that i don't think is productive to the political process. but when you have a race for the presidency and you have five people in it, you're going to hear some pretty bad rhetoric. i certainly do not condone those comments from the governor. that's definitely out of line. >> well, talk about ramped up rhetoric, we heard some last night comparing donald trump to
hitler. watch a portion of this. >> he says he's going to bring back america to what it was. that's crazy. never, never before america, the united states was so big, so strong, so powerful, so successful as it is today. he's going to take that nation back to the old days of politics, war, and everything. he remembers me of hitler. that's the way he started speaking. >> reminds him of hitler. kayleigh, what's your response? >> that is completely, completely out of line and outrageous that he would say something like that. if you're going to compare someone to a dictator who annihilated jews, tried to wipe out a race in europe, you need to be very good on your facts
and have evidence. there's no way that donald trump is anywhere close to it. to use that hyperbole, that's very concerning coming from a former president. i don't think there's a place to compare a modern democratic leader to a dictator who performed genocide on a group of people. i really think that's a bridge that's gone too far. >> we certainly should expect that donald trump should respond as he rallies with his supporters today. kayleigh mcaneney, thanks so much. >> thanks, victor. we want to talk about yoko ohno. she's in the hospital this morning. also, more ted companies are coming to apple's defense and it's clashed with the fbi. what they say could be at stake
all right. let's talk about your headline this morning. funeral services being held this weekend for five of the six victims of the kalamazoo shootings. victor smith and his son tyler will be laid to rest today. this is a joint service. funeral services also held for barbara hawthorn, her sister-in-law mary joe nye. jason dalton is charged with six counts of murder. yoko ono in a new york hospital this morning.
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a big day for democrats here leading into super tuesday. polls open in south carolina in fewer than 30 minutes. here's a look with brianna keilar with how the race is heating up. >> reporter: victor, hillary clinton on a push the day before this all important primary first in the south, including at an appearance at south carolina state university, the only
historically black university, that she's going to rebuild the party here in the state. >> i'm going to break every bare yore that stands in the way of any american from getting ahead and staying ahead because i know america can't live up to its potential unless every person in our country has a chance to live up to his or hers. >> reporter: despite a couple of interruptions from supporters of the black leasives matter, hill clinton is hoping and planning to win by a large margin. the idea being that this will give her some momentum going into super tuesday where a number of other southern states come into play. victor? >> all right. brianna keilar for us. brianna, thank you so much. let's talk about the issue of
gun control. hillary clinton is trying to continue to contrast her views against that of bernie sanders. congresswoman gabby giffords, you remember she was shot in
the head in 2011. here's a portion of the ad. >> i'm fed up. we have a gun violence problem. so i'm voting for hillary clinton. she's tough. she will stand up to the gun lobby. she will fight to make our families safer. it matters. >> i'm hillary clinton, and i approve this message. >> her recovery has been amazing. even with these high-profile endorsements, hillary clinton is still being hit on several funds. she's expecting her last batch
of state department e-mails will be released on monday and now the calls are growing louder to release the transcripts of the speeches. listen to what south carolina voters told me. "the new york times" and senator sanders called for her to release the transcripts. do you think she should? >> i think she should, but i don't think it's that big a deal. it's certainly not a showstopper for me. >> i hope she does that. i think that's part of being transparent. >> i really don't care if she releases them or not. i think it's up to her. >> she should. >> why? >> yes. >> transparency and also if she's got nothing to hide, then release the transcripts. >> i'm joined now by cnn political contributor errol
loui louis. even her supporters want to see it happen. >> i agree that it's not that big of a deal but that's my personal opinion. politically i don't know if it's going to take root. that's the reality of it. one of the speeches where we know she did say at these corporate events, you know, it's really kind of a lot of cheerleadi cheerleading. if the point is to have her cozy up to hillary clinton and stick money in her pocket. that's a financial transaction. it's not going tell you something you didn't know. it's not that she's going go before goldman sachs or some other group and say all kinds of things that are 180 degrees opposite of what she said in public. i don't think we're going the find that. i think she's comfortable with having serve odden the board of walmart and fighting for working
people and being part of the corporate elite that in many ways has damaged the prospects for those working people. i mean that's just who she is. if people didn't know that before now, i don't think a transcript is going to reveal anything for them. >> let's talk about the strategy from bernie sanders now calling for her to release the transcripts of speeches of groups supporting fracking as it goes down to this virptal angle as well. is this strategy working for him? >> you know, it works for bernie sanders with some of his core constituents, people who are simply uncomfortable with any money in politics. if you don't leak the idea that there are corporations who have influence and there are corporate executives who make donations and that there are lobbyists who actually try to influence public policy and that all of those kinds of very powerful and influential sectors are in and around the clinton
campaign, if you're not happy about that, then, yeah, there will also be one more transcript you want to see and one more criticism you want to lob. if you're not in that group and i don't think it's the majority going to the polls. that's what the outcome so far seems to suggest, then you're gotten to try to figure out what you can live with with hillary clinton. you know, so she's -- she came -- for fracking, for example that you raise. she came to essentially the same position as bernie sanders but she came late. that's the issue she's trying to run on. it's a very difficult case to make. yeah, she's saying the right thing, but we can't be sure but she didn't say it as early as she should have. >> all right. errol louis joining us this morning. we're minutes way from the opening of the polls in south carolina as the democrats choose their nominee here. thank you so much, errol. we'll be talking to the democratic chair jamie harrison in just a moment.
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agree. over the next few days, amazon, google, facebook all expected to file letters in support of apple. laurie segall has the latest. >> hey, christi. they're forcing it to help the fbi unlock the iphone of one of the san bernardino shooters. they claim it violates the company's first and fifth amendment rights. i spoke with ted olson, an attorney representing apple. he said if apple looses the fight the fbi's demands would mount. i asked him, what about national security? what happens in the future when the fbi is sitting on the phone of a known terrorist, there's an impending threat, and no one can get in. listen to what he said. >> we have to do everything to defeat terrorists, and defeat and capture and punish people like osama bin laden and so forth, but we can't do it by
breaking our constitution. we have got to stop someplace. we can't break someone's back in order to get them to tell somebody where somebody else is. if they're saying there's a serious threat, throw out the constitution in order to prevent that threat, where do we draw the line. >> now, the government is expected to respond to appleby march 10th. a final hearing will held on march 22nd, and olson says they're prepared to take this case all the way to the supreme court. we'll keep you updated. christi? >> we appreciate it. thank you. alex wood is with us from london. he's a technology journalist and editor of tech news site "the memo." i want to touch on something that apple's attorney said. we have to do everything to defeat terrorists but we can't do it breaking our constitution. what is the true risk, alex, of apple assisting the fbi and what is the frisk they do not?
>> i think the true risk of them opening this up is this is not just a one-time thing. the second this happens, it's going -- [ inaudible ] what we're looking at here is a different issue. the second you -- hackers -- >> a precedent-setting moment. a pew study, a recent but study says 51% of americans say apple should hack the phone. you're in london. the uk is no stranger to terror, what are the conversations being had there about the government potentially forcing a company to work with them. >> you're absolutely right. i can sympathize with people understandably. i think a lot of people --
[ inaudible ] this opens us to speech problems and how much further -- as tim cook has said, we're not just talking about -- we're talking about your personal factor. most of us use mobile banking. >> right. alex, thank you so much. i apologize, alex wood. we're having technical issues and we're not hearing you very well. so we're going to take break here and maybe try to reconnect here in a little bit, but thank you so much. we appreciate it as he was just talking about the risks either way the way this thing could go. either way, we saw some of the big companies like amazon and google coming to the defense of apple. we'll see if that plays a role in what happens in the courtroom. listen, when we come back to
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>> it should wait until the next election. >> reporter: this week republicans dug in not only on vows to not even meet with obama's eventual supreme court nominee -- >> what we're seeing is an unprecedent escalation in the powe litization of the supreme court nomination. >> reporter: but against his long awaited plan to close gitmo, the detention facility for terrorist suspects in cuba that he promised to close during his campaign for presidency. the republicans weren't having it. from the campaign trail -- >> we're going to fight it every step of the way very even john mccain who's long supported closing the facility. >> this is not a plan. >> reporter: the president tried to be nicer to his critics, even saying he understands the political pressure they're under. >> i've about talked to many of them and i've told them, i'm sympathetic. >> reporter: he himself back in '06, after all, joined a filibuster against now supreme court justice samuel alito.
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h hey. >> there they go. president obama doing a little ray charles and a white house tribute. earlier the president said he would not be singing. apparently just couldn't resist the hey, ho part of the classic "what i say." it's not the first time he showed off his singing skills. ♪ i'm so in love with you >> that was at the apollo in new york during his 2012 election campaign. he does sound good, double he. victor, you do have anything for us? are you going to wake us up with a tune? >> no, no. i'm going leave that to the president. those are two songs that are hard to resist the urge to sing.
the president can hold a tune now and then. >> yeah. as you noticed there's a lot in if news. >> let's get to it at the top of the hour. we start live in columbia, south carolina, right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com and right now the polls are open across south carolina. live pictures from a polling location in lexington. big contest in the democratic race, bernie sanders and hillary clinton, fighting for every last vote. so far clinton is leading by a wide margin in the polls. she spent most of the week here many the state campaigning, and this afternoon, she's in alabama but will head back to south carolina for her watch party tonight. now after a concert and rally in columbia last night, bernie sanders, he's already looking ahead to super tuesday, campaigning in texas and minnesota today. the cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns is live
at that polling station in lexington. and, joe, good morning to you. i wonder what is voter turnout expected to look like? 2008 was a banner year for the democratic candidates. what can we expect this year? >> reporter: i giev tot tell you, victor, they're not expecting anything like 2008. they're not expecting anything, quite frankly, like the republican race just last weekend. so i wanted to give you an idea of the setup here. this is river bluff high school in lexington, south carolina. let's just walk through. we actually haven't seen a voter yet. voting begins at this hour across the state. authorities say turnout is not expected to be anything like, as you said, 2008, and it's a reflection of the race. the republican race has been very noisy, very earn jettic. the democrats have been much more civil. here's an idea. we've got a handful of poll workers and right across the way, we have three discreet polling stations and that's
about it. that's what authorities say they think they need. another reason why they're not expecting turnout to be that big is because hillary clinton is stiso ahead in the polls. that's a big problem for candidates because their voters can say i have other things to go. bernie sanders has been traveling around the country. he's out west, probably going to end up in minnesota today. hillary clinton is in alabama and expected to show up to south caroli carolina. south carolina is going to the polls today. >> breaking news last saturday for the republican primary. there were people who were already trickling in at 7:00. i wonder what possibly was the impact of having these primaries
on separate days. maybe some those independents who might have voted in the democratic primary were so excited by what happened or what was happening in the republican primary that they decided not to wait a week and vote in that one. >> right. absentee ballots, and there have been about 36,000 absentee ballots cast across the state, probably about one-tenth the authorities and democratic primaries are expecting. that's quite a number of absentee ballots, quite frankly, for south carolina. still not expecting the turnout here to exceed what happened in the republican primary here, victor. >> a good indicator of what the candidates expect will happen is where they are on the night of the returns and what we're expecting tonight, that hillary clinton will be here. bernie sanders will be outside of the state, still struggling to make the inroads into the minorities across the state and across the country. >> absolutely right.
and that's been the big challenge in this state. it's the statement that hillary clinton is trying to make in south carolina that once you get past iowa, once you get past new hampshire and the demographics of the voting electorate expand, she wants to make a statement that minority voters, african-american voters come to her. so this will be a big test of that as we go into super tues y tuesday. >> joe johns for us at the polling location in lexington, south carolina. thank you so much. of course, the race for the white house getting hotter on both sides as the remaining candidates look ahead to super tuesday. and really for many, they say a do-or-daikon test. here's the latest from the campaign trail. >> friends do not let friends vote for con artists. >> he was so scared like a little frightened puppy. >> the rowdy republican cnn debate spills onto the campaign trail and marco rubio comes out
swinging taking aim at donald trump's tweets. >> i've only reached two conclusions. number one, that's how they spell the words at the wharton school of business where you went or number two, just like trump tower, he must have hired a foreign worker to do his own tweets. >> and then a former trump rival hits back at marco rubio. >> marco rubio, your campaign is almost over, buddy. showing a lot of desperation today, throwing punches from every angle, but none of them are landing because america has made their decision. >> and governor chris christie has made his decision to represent trump. on the democratic sides as the polls open in south carolina the state department releases another 1,500 pages of hillary clinton's e-mails with the final batch coming monday. >> we take our obligations to the courts seriously and we're
making every effort to comply with this order. >> and bernie sanders hopes to gain some of the momentum lost after the setback in the november caucuses. sanders rallying in columbia and orangeburg at the historically black clackburg, university. you see a lot of the seats were empty. black voter polls as we say opened at the top of the hour. joining me now the chairman of the democratic south carolina party. jamie harrison. good morning. >> good morning. >> i want to start in orangeburg, many of the seats reportedly empty there. there's a small crowd there for bernie sanders. he's been working here and across the country to try to make inroads into minority communities. has he been successful? >> you know, think he's had some
trarkz wi traction with younger african-americans, but he has not had as much success with older african-americans, particularly in a place like orangeburg which is a very unique community, my hometown. orange burg has two historically black colleges but a senior african-american poll population as well. what i've seen, i went down to orangeburg and talked to some people. i saw the hillary clinton rally. they were next door to each other. at the hillary clinton rally there were a lot of older african-americans and at the bernie sanders rally i saw many more college students. so it's that kind of dichotomy that's played out there. >> some of these sanders supporters have criticized the clinton campaign specifically for what they call pandering to the african-american community. i imagine that's a difficult
balance because if you don't say anything, you're ignoring the community. and in some case use be called a panderer. >> i don't like this whole pandering language that's being used because both bernie sanders and hillary clinton have been talking to african-american voters and they should. african-american vote in the democratic party is probably the foundation for this party, the most loirt constituency within the democratic party so it's important that both of them talk to african-americans, talk to them about the issues that are important to them and i don't see what either of them have done thus far as being, quote/unquote pandering. >> let's talk about turnout today. >> yeah. >> i don't expect and i'm sure you don't expect that we'll see what we saw in 2008. >> no. >> what do you expect to see today? >> you know, in 2008, we had about a little over 500,000 voters. we broke records that year. if you take a look at 2004, it was about 292,000 voters. i anticipate being somewhere
there in the middle, probably in the 350,000 to 400,000 range. when i checked the absentee ballots for the contest earlier this week, we were at about 40,000 and that was eclipsing the number where we were in 2008. i still don't think, though, we'll have more voters than we had in 2008 because that was just a different type of race, different dynamics. this race started a lot slower with many -- with less candidates than in 2008. and so, you know, it's a different dynamic. i know people like to compare it to the republican contest, but, listen. there were about 17 republicans in south carolina all at once. if i threw a rock, i would hit a republican running for president. so, you know, you just can't compare it where we only had three at the height here in south carolina. so i think, you know, voters are very interested. they'll come out and vote. but, again, 2008 was a different time. >> let me ask you about the impact, having these primaries
on separate days in different weeks vchl you seen it because the republican race was a week ago? >> no. we had different days in 2008 as well and actually 2008, the democrats, we had 100,000 more than the republicans did. i mean one of the things that matt moore who's a republican chair, he and i get along very well. we try to get it on the same date, but we have to sit our rnc and dnc people down at the same time and say let's get oracle doors where they're the same. the prb is the rnc uses its third calendar and the dnc uses its forth. somebody has to slip. my thought is let's move south carolina up to third and let's go with that. >> are you seeing a drop in enthusiasm because the republicans have left and they're splitting it? >> no, not really. the number of interviews i've done haven't gone down. no, but, really, the voters are -- the voters are very
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the polls are open in the democratic primary. they're about 15 minutes in. they close at 7:00 p.m. hillary clinton expected to win today, but, of course, question will be about the numbers inside the numbers. the vote among african-american voter here and the margin sets it up for super tuesday. choker, lightweight, those are a few of the insults and there are many flying between the gop front-runner donald trump and the man who wants to beat him, marco rubio. the two are taking their fight from the cnn debate stage to the campaign trail where the mud slinging shows no signs of letting up. this week attack ads are making that their goal like this one. charging the front-runner with profiting off undocumented immigrants. >> how much do
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have with your officials to attack not only marco rubio but saying he can't even do a credit card right and look how terrible he is at his finances because he had to take out a loan for something. he did the same exact thing for ted cruz saying he got a big loan from the wall street bank. now he says you can't see my tax returns because i've been audited. it's the first two years but now 11 or 12 years in a row? i don't think it's been 10 or 11 years in a row first off. there's obviously something in there he does not want people to see and i think that's connecting with voters from rubio and cruz going into super tuesday. they should have done this earlier. is it too little, too late? it will be interesting to see what the voters decide on this but there's a lot of trump supporters now that i talked to who are saying for the first time they're wavering a little bit because he seems to be doing the opposite of what he claims he was going to do, which was open, transparent, not be a
politician, and now he's playing politics with his own tax returns. >> jeff, what do you i have to say about that? why not release the tax returns the years that are not being audited now. >> well, those questions just came up this week. he was never asked this before. mitt romney is part of the political establishment. obviously it's what derailed his campaign, one of the many things he did wrong in his campaign four years ago and so now he's using the harry reid attack on donald trump it's not a harry reid attack. >> he's released his financials well before the deadline. you can go online right now and see explanations and detailed breakdowns of $10 billion in assets, and so i don't know what we're going to get by this anyway, but it's very possible as you said that we'll come out with this down the road when his routine audit is over, but no accountant in the world -- >> jeff, let me -- >> let me jump in here. "usa today" has reported that
the irs says there's no reason he can't release the tax returns tochl say he has to wait, that's personal choice, and if he's choosing to be trance parents, he can release those documents. >> not only can he release those documents, but the irs also said it would be virtually impossible for someone to be audited ten years in a row. i think the candidates should be asking of donald trump at least show us the paper that proves you were audited for the last decade because i think that's a lie. i don't think it happened. the irs implied that doesn't happen unless you're doing something on your taxes that's a red flag year after year after year. i don't believe him that he's been on for a decade straight and i would also say this. the there's something in there he doesn't want them to see. he very well could have invested in goldman sachs while criticizing ted cruz for getting a loan. he could have been investing in
companies that were exporting jobs out of america. remember, he's been tough saying i'm not buying certain products anymore that are going to make factories in mexico. we have no idea what he's invested in or where it's being invested. so you add all of this up and yet he attacks ted cruz for taking a single loan. it's out there and says it's not transparent. look at how he's in control. donald trump knows is an issue. he can stop it and make it all go away by being transparent. he's purposely choosing to hide something and i think there's something in there that connects him to liberal groups that he would be in serious trouble for supporting. >> got it. >> let me get you in here. i want to ask you a question. let me ask you about policy here because in thursday's debate, marco rubio asked for specifics about trump's health care plan and aside from talking about creating competition nationally, he said there was nothing else
there, what else do i need to explain. i would imagine at this point going in to super tuesday, this is the time to explain when are voters going to get the specifics behind those plans. >> well, the specifics are already online at donaldjtrump.com as well as debates at multiple times. i want to touch on what the other floel said. said he doesn't know what he's investing in and he's not trance parent. again, all of these are detailed. an income tax return is not a summation of assets. there's nothing in there that's going to show you a listing of all assets. that's put out. he's not hiding anything. what's funny, too, is -- >> if he's not -- >> they asked him the other night when are yours coming out -- >> you can't both -- >> ted cruz and marco rubio, they asked where are your tax
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the margin. already stumping in super tuesday states today. senior washington correspondent joe johns is live at that station -- polling station in lexington, but statewide, what is the democratic party expecting to see, joe? >> reporter: i think the democratic party is expecting to see hillary clinton win in south carolina. the question, of course, is the margin. it's all really a question of expectations and whether bernie sanders can keep it reasonably close if he were to keep it within single digits here in south carolina. a lot of people would say that's almost a win for him. so keeping it close for bernie sanders, for hillary clinton, of course, she wants to see a blowout here, trying to make a statement that she can bring african-american voters, minorities, those in the demographics that are a little bit different from what we saw in iowa and new hampshire as we
move to the southern states, victor. >> and where will the candidates be tonight, joe? >> reporter: hillary clinton is trying to make the pivot to the super tuesday states and beyond while at the same time keeping an eye on south carolina. she's going to be in fairfield, alabama, today before coming back to columbia, south carolina, for what she hopes will be a victory party. bernie sanders will be farther out west, austin, texas, a couple events there. then he goes on to minnesota from that point. so busy schedules for both of these candidates. a lot of frequent flyer miles, victor. >> indeed. joe johns there for us in lexington. joe, thank you so much. now, as joe said, this could be another big day for hillary clinton. even with a win here in south carolina, she, of course, will continue to be hit on several fronts just as the last of her
state department e-mails are released. that's coming on monday, we're told. the calls are growing louder for her to release the transcripts of paid speeches to wall street banks. listen to what south carolina voters told me about those speeches. "the new york times" and senator sanders, they're both calling for secretary clinton to release her transcripts of the wall street speeches. do you think she should? >> i think she should, but i don't think it's that big a deal. personally that's not a showstopper for me. >> i hope she does that. i think that is part of being transparent. >> i really don't care if she releases them or not. i think it's up to her. >> she should. why? >> yes. >> transparency and also i -- if she's got nothing to hide, then release the transcripts. >> all right. so a split for those few voters. i want to bring in cnn political contributor errol louis.
errol, i wonder if there's this widespread presentation with the om om omnipresence of phones, et cetera, do they believe she would have said something in those speeches that would be detrimental to her campaign? >> reporter: you know, that's what i can't quite get over honestly, because this is somebody whees been in the public eye one way or the other. if you're talking about continue executives at a retreat, that's a very public speech. hillary clinton, her statements are measured and parsed, and she's been on so many sides of so many issues for so long, it seems hard for me to believe that there would be some explosive dynamite, some statement that she absolutely couldn't walk away from, couldn't claim that she was
misinterpreted on, and that's going to prosivide some fodder. think it's to shine a spotlight on the fact that she has, in fact, done a lot of business in a lot of different ways with different corporations that have donated to the clinton foundation or paid her personally. the case they're making or the larger point they're making, which i think is a good one, is that she is somewhat compromised. if you want somebody who's got some distance from the world of corporate leadership, hillary clinton is not your candidate. she's been very much in bed with them so to speak politically for many, many years. she says she can remain independent, but that's for the voters to judge. bernie sanders is shining a skeptical eye on all of that. >> and you talk about a larger narrative. of course, that is even part of the narrative of trustworthiness and being honest with voters, something that hillary clinton has acknowledged is still a question she's trying to answer. have you seen of late as we've now seen the vote in south carolina that she's making any
headway there with some those who are still skeptical? >> here's the thing, victor. hillary clinton is still the favorite to win. she's got surrogates, she's got endorsements, and she's got a lot more money than bernie sanders and moving through the states everywhere she goes. the problem is that trustworthiness factor seems to be expression itself in lower voter turnout, and that could be a problem down the road. so it won't do you much good to win the primaries as hillary clinton seems on track do if along the way you lose a big part of the democratic base that they -- that they lose some of the excitement. they don't trust her, they don't support her. that's what they're telling the pollsters, and maybe they stay home in november. that's the problem she's really got to worry about. >> yeah. well, they've got to deal with the contest in front of them. voters in south carolina going to the polling today, and turnout here, nothing like it was in 2008, but that's probably
going to be across the spectrum as we go through the primary season. we'll see what the numbers end up being tonight. errol louis, thank you so much. >> all right. thank you, victor. coming up in a few minutes, we'll talk to a bernie sanders supporter. he says sanders is the man who understands the, quote, regular american. he doesn't believe that hillary clinton does. also, we'll talk with a sanders supporter who says democrats are afraid to talk about the truth. his truth, he says, is hillary clinton is benefiting from white privilege. also other stories making headlines as violent clashes in syria now being reported across that country coming just hour as f the temporary truce began.
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half, has been uprooted and flood as we've been following the syrian refugee crisis, and some of those who have stayed in syria are starving. cnn international correspondent arwa day mon is live in turkey right now. i understand although the cease-fire is in effect, there have been clashes. how serious and expansive are they? >> reporter: well, by syria's standards, christi, and those are very low and miserable standards, this is actually a fairly significant reduction in hostilities if not a cessation of hostilities. there were clashes that were reported in the coastal city. that's a regime strong hong kong. they broke out, regime forces and rebel forces. 12 rebel fighters killed according to the syrian observatory for human rights. other clashes breaking out. artillery being traded in some
areas on the outskirts of damascus. but, again, by syria's standards, this is a very low level of violence and what is perhaps most significant for the population there is that since the cessation of hostilities went into effect, there have been no reports air strikes, no russian fighter jets raining hell down on populations, no helicopters indiscriminately dropping barrel bombs and those two factors were the leading causes of death. so on the one hand it does appear so far to be holding to a certain degree, but, of course, the other critical issue in all of this is does this reduction in violence at this stage mean that that much needed humanitarian aid is going to be able to reach those many numerous besieged populations, christi. >> that's what i was wondering about, if those folks are
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begun in south carolina but looks like most voters here are not necessarily feeling the burn. senator bernie sanders has already moved on looking ahead to super tuesday states. cnn senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is following his campaign. jeff, good morning. >> victor, the south carolina primary is upon us. the bernie sanders campaign is hoping for a more than respectable showing but certainly not counting on a win. he has not spent much time here this week. he's been across the country in ohio, illinois, minnesota. he's going to spend tonight in minnesota, as well looking ahead to the super tuesday contest next week but in south carolina it gave him a chance to test his message and an opportunity to see he can reach out to a more diverse part of this electret and did not spend as much time as some advisors hoped he would. he knows to keep going in this contest, he needs to do well next tuesday to surprise the clinton campaign in some states. we'll see if he does that. south carolina is feeling so
different than it did eight years ago when it was hillary clinton outside the state not remaining on election day. bernie sanders looking beyond south carolina to the next wave of races next week. victor? >> all right. jeff, thank you so much. i want to bring in h.a. goodman, an arthur and journalist and wrote a piece that got a lot of people talking. he wrote it for the "huffington post" and the title is "bernie sanders earned his success, hillary clinton embodies white privilege." i want you to take a few seconds, not a lot of time but why do you believe hillary clinton embodies white privilege, what we're seeing in this cycle? >> when you look at prison lobbyist donations, she acre cemented money from prison lobbyist and the manner she treated barack obama in 2008. james has a brilliant piece
about the racism used against barack obama. when you look what bernie sander was able to accomplish. he beats donald trump by a wider margin than hillary clinton. he beats donald trump by six points. hillary clinton barely beats donald trump by a little over two points. if you don't want a neon trump sign on the white house, you vote for bernie sanders without an fbi investigation. white privilege issue, powerful voices, dr. cornell west, tim black, dixson. if barack obama or michelle obama were to go ahead and run for president, currently hillary clinton according dto the polls 67% amount of americans distrust hillary clinton. she was tested by ashley williams, hillary clinton said black youth were super predators. there is an fbi investigation
with michael flynn and jack tapper at cnn said she should dropout because of. robert gates agree that -- >> okay -- >> coordinations have her intelligence -- >> let me ask you this -- >> that he would never survive politically. >> let me ask you this and playing devil's advocate here, why is that not attributed to being a clinton? having 25 years of national political access in an infrastructure, why is it specifically related to clinton being white? >> and you're 100% right. it's not specifically related to that. there are definitely many layers of privilege. i will say this, part of the article was what i wrote in the "huffington post" published, when bernie sanders was able to accomplish on his own and what hillary clinton was able to take advantage of. part of the issue is white
privilege. when you look at boston's black lives matter president calls hillary clinton's racial justice record a bismal. what hillary clinton got away with scandal, if it was a person of color, they wouldn't have got away with that. hillary clinton is continually embroiled in scandal. 74% of independents distrust her -- >> let me -- >> bernie sanders -- >> let me get to -- >> nationally behind clinton. >> i apologize for the delay, that's why it sounds to viewers at home like i'm cutting you off where you're taking a break but finally because you're running out of time, your suggestion hillary clinton benefits from white privilege and bernie sanders earned his success, let me challenge you. if there were a 74-year-old democratic socialist calling for free tuition and health care for all, and he would be a black
man, do you think he would have as much support? >> i addressed that and no. i also do agree with you. had he been black it would have been difficult to educate people on the fact that he's democratic socialist like fdr and teddy roosevelt but i think what hillary clinton and at any point in this campaign, the clinton campaign would be derailed by the fbi investigation. the things she's able to overcome in part is because of white privilege. i do not want donald trump. i think donald trump is an absolute buffoon and clown. >> all right. >> polls show bernie sanders beating trump by a wider margin. >> got it. h.a. goodman and bernie sanders supporter, thank you for spending time with us. >> thank you very much. pleasure to be here. >> all right. there's a lot ocho come up this morning, we are certainly of course continuing our live special coverage of the south
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to trickle in. the big contest this week is on the democratic side. bernie sanders, hillary clinton, of course, fighting for every last vote. so far clinton is leading by a wide margin in the polls, expected to win here. she spent most of the week campaigning in the state, but this afternoon she's going to alabama. she'll head back to south carolina for a watch party tonight and now bernie sanders, there was a concert and rally in colombia last night. he's already looking ahead to the super tuesday states campaigning in texas and tonight, he'll be in minnesota. not expecting to win here in south carolina. cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns is live from a polling station in lexington. joe, what are you seeing there and statewide, what are we expecting for the turnout this cycle? >> still just seeing people trickle in right here at this high school in lexington, south carolina. it's early here and they are not
expecting a huge turnout victor. the absentee ballots indicate 36,000 people voted before hand. they are expecting a turnout estimated around 350,000 or so, which would not match what the republicans did just last weekend, what the democrats did in 2008. we did have closing arguments, as you said, just last night. hillary clinton in colombia, south carolina making her case to the voters trying to get a big turnout here. listen. >> nobody is perfect, and nobody has a right to look down on anybody else. [ cheers ] >> so i need you're help tomorrow. the south carolina primary is personally important to me
because i want to send a strong signal that south carolina is ready for change, ready for progress. >> there you have it. hillary clinton in colombia, south carolina, bernie sanders also in this state. now out west in texas, as a matter of fact, as we approach the end of this primary day, interesting to see just what is going to happen with hillary clinton. she pushed really hard to try to get a huge turnout here to try to make a statement, victor. >> all right. joe johns at the polling location in lexington for us. joe, thank you a win here in south carolina could give hillary clinton even more momentum heading into super tuesday. a key to victory, the african american voters. why is she seen as the first choice over bernie sanders in the daily best but cnn
contributor writes from his bouts with the president to the laws he contested to the company he keeps, sanders raises alarm bells for obama supporters, especially those from the african american community. let's talk about it. let's bring in terry alexander and bernie sanders supporter and maria cardona from washington, a hillary clinton supporter whose firm worked for one of the super pacs supporting clinton's campaign. good morning to both of you. mr. representative, i want to start with you. was cornell west very critical of president obama the best choice to be kind of a spokesperson for bernie sanders across this state when we know that many african americans are primarily looking for someone that will continue the obama legacy. >> cornell west is one of the best to represent sanders, change in this country. now, as far as carrying on
obama's legacy, i doubt that's going to happen very seriously. what president is going to carry on another president's legacy? for the clinton campaign or staff and for clinton herself to say i want to carry on obama's legacy it's misleading. no president in this country will pick up someone else's legacy and carry it. where would it lead them? i have serious concerns that comment coming from any of her campaign members. they know it's not the truth. this is the same person that ran against obama eight years ago. >> let me challenge that, not just the campaigns saying that. i was in south carolina state at the university, those students who were some of them decided, some of them undecided, they disagreed on a lot. one thing they agreed on, they wanted someone to carry on and protect the legacy of barack obama. let me come to you, maria
cardona. they say there is no one that will carry on the legacy of another president. >> i think absolutely hillary clinton would carry on obama's legacy because it's part of hers. she served at his secretary of state. she's been the team player as part of his administration. she's focused her life's work on many of the issues that he has been able to implement as president, especially obama care, which has given health care to millions of americans who didn't have it before. let's remember that she was the one who tried to make the big push for that in the early '90s and has the scars to show for it. she feels obama's legacy could be hers. that doesn't mean she won't do other things differently and build on the legacy, which is actually what she's been saying. i think for african americans and latinos and middle class families all around the country who are looking for a champion
to continue to be their voice, hillary clinton speaks very loudly to those folks and her message is resinating. >> let me ask you about bernie sanders and his effort to make the roads to minority communities, especially the african american community. has he been successful? the expectation is he will trail by double digits maybe 20 or more points here. that obviously does not prove well for moving into other southern states, east coast states as the primary season continues. >> he always had questions, excuse me, he always had questions about the state of south carolina and coming into this state. we knew the clinton folks had us locked down and african americans rallies around her and guarded her and took care of her. we knew it would be an uphill challenge. what we're trying to do now, marginalize and losing south carolina does not mean he's losing this whole election. it means he's losing the state. matter of fact, we lost nevada
by five points where they thought he would lose by 20 points or 15 points. >> what do you expect the margin to be here? >> not quite sure. not as much as we want it to be but we're not quite sure what that margin will be soon. >> maria, let me come to you with what we learned overnight, bill clinton, former president, his former labor secretary endorsed bernie sanders saying if hillary clinton becomes the nominee, he'll support her of course, but he believes bernie sanders is the agent of change the country needs. has to be a blow to clinton folks. >> well, i'm sure they would have preferred for him to support hillary but at the end of the day it doesn't surprise me secretary rice supported bernie sanders. they are similar in terms of ideology. that doesn't mean hillary clinton is not going to continue to press on and focus on her message of progressive change on
her message of making sure that the barriers that have been setup for people all around the country that keep them from reaching their god-given potential, she's the one that is going to be able to knock them down, that's going to be able to get to real solutions and that will focus on growth in all sectors of our society. but look, bernie sanders has run a terrific campaign. secretary clinton is not taking anything for granted, even in south carolina. she's working her heart out and working her heart out across the south. i think this primary has been terrific for democrats and great for the country and if you look what is going on in comparison to the other side, victor, all democrats would be proud -- >> we will be talking -- >> the republicans in just a moment. let me ask you about south carolina and bernie sanders, he says he has not written off south carolina. he's not here today. won't be back. he's going to be in minnesota tonight. i mean, do south carolina voters feel like he's --
>> i don't they feel that way. we don't feel he's been written off. he was hear last night and i there was until about 10:30 last night. only thing that will happen today is folks are voting and that's it. let me challenge the myth hillary will be better for black folks. when her history does not always dictate that. you know, just recently she started carrying obama's legacy, who just recently she started talking about racial equality, women's rights come about october or november she was so far right you didn't know if she was running for republican or democrat. wasn't until sanders began to start challenging her and began to talk about race and equality and started to talk about reform -- >> the push back is she worked for him for four years. she didn't just start in october. >> she did not start holding up his banner until she came into the african american communities and bernie started challenging
her with issues and concerns. >> right. representative alexander, thank you and maria cardona, thank you so much. i know you want to come back to that but we have to move to republicans. there is a lot of action there. thank you both. insummlts back and forth between donald trump and marco rubio. we'll have the best and the worst just ahead. plus, donald trump is ratcheting up the rhetoric against the media saying he'll open up liable lawsuits to sue people who write quote unquote nasty articles. when heartburn hits fight back fast tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at the source tum, tum, tum, tum smoothies! only from tums
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friends do not let friends vote for con artists. number one, that's how they spell those words at the wharton school of business or like trump tower he must have hired a foreign worker to do his tweets. >> a debate during two of the breaks he went back stage having a melt down. first he had to this little makeup thing applying like makeup around his must tach because he hat a sweat mustache and asked for a full length mirror, i don't know why because the podium goes to here. he wanted a full length mirror, maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. >> it's rubio. he's a nervous basket case.
here is a guy, you ought to see him back stage. he was putting on makeup with a trowel. honestly, i thought he was going to die, rubio. he was so scared like a little frightened puppy. >> marco rubio and donald trump there trading barbs from the campaign trail showing no signs of stopping as we head towards super tuesday. let's bring in the panel this morning conservative columnist and donald trump supporter kaley and senior advisor to the marco rubio campaign, jason row, good to have both of you. jason, marco rubio had said that he wasn't going to get into the mud with donald trump. why is he slopping in it now? >> well, i don't think it's so much getting in the mud but exposing what we have as a con man leading the fight for -- >> suggesting that the man urinated on himself, that's
slopping in mud. >> well, i'll tell you what, i have a 6-year-old son and wouldn't tolerate this behavior we some from donald trump from my 6-year-old. imagine a world where we have to tell our children not to believe like the guy that could be the leading candidate for the president of the united states. i think this whole circus of this presidential election has become a national and international embarrassment because of donald trump, he insults anyone that he disagrees with. the wild and erratic behavior that he showed on the campaign stump is just not befitting for the leader of the free world and at some point we have to wakeup from this and say enough already. we need to elect an adult president. we need to elect somebody who is actually laying out a vision for what they do as president rather than attacking anyone that disagrees with him. >> kaley, let me come to you. does donald trump not own the tone? he has to take as good as he's given for the last several
months but as this gets muddier and dirtier, doesn't he have to own that, even you said in the last hour that sometimes this can get over heated. >> yeah, i definitely don't like the way the rhetoric has turned. i don't think it's productive but this is a presidential campaign. we hear rhetoric like this going back into history. i would turn to marco rubio, if you disapprove so much why did rubio turn to worse rhetoric yet insinuating donald trump urn nat -- urinated in his pants. that's not upstanding. marco rubio, i watched a press conference yesterday used the term con man 20 times further playing into the narrative of you must have tested the word and so we're going to repeat it over and over and over and this the same robotic political politician way that doesn't resonate. this is an act of desperation. chris christie said it, donald
trump said it, the last-ditch effort to have a radical change in tone is not befitting of marco rubio. >> joe, let me ask you about strategy. aside from the specific words that are being used, we know there are republican voters who do not support trump because they don't like his brash street fighter style. how does marco rubio win over those voters by adopting that style? >> well, i don't really think we're adopting that style. i think we're final recalling this guy out and if you don't like the word con man, this guy is a fraud. in fact, he's being sued and has three lawsuits over trump university for fraud, two of them class action and the new york attorney general said this is a classic baiten switch scam, trump university and i just can't imagine that we're at the point where we'll nominate a guy who is under that kind of investigation. i mean, this is an embarrass
skp ment and we need to start speaking the truth. this behavior from trump has been tolerated and the media ignored a lot of deficiencies in the candidacy and we can't allow our party to be hijacked by somebody that by the way on most issues has been all over the map. he is without a doubt the most liberal candidate running for president, and i understand republicans out there that are furious that in washington we haven't done the things as a party that we need to with barack obama in the white house. but we have to remember that it's been marco rubio that's been taking this fight to this administration and he's been taking the fight to the establishment. when he got elected in 2010, it was running against the establishment as one of the original tea party candidates. so set aside, you know, the frustrations that we have and think about who it is we really want to lead our party into the future. donald trump would rip our party apart by the seams. >> not true. >> kaley, let me come to you quickly about the tax returns
because we know that he won't release the tax returns he says because of an audit, not yet but the irs says an audit does not prevent someone from releasing the turns, the irs said it is rare for anyone to be audited for 12 years in a row as trump claims he has been. if he can't release the ones that are being audited presently, why can't he release other ones? when are we going to see these documents? it. >> is rare to be audited 12 times and what is going on in the ira and obama administration. ben carson said he was audited after he came out after obamacare. it is probably odd to be audited that many times -- >> is that a suggestion president obama is using the irs to go specifically after potential nominees? >> it's been done before. so i don't doubt that it could be done again.
it is possible and certainly possible and for releasing the returns, this is donald trump not playing by the typical political playbook. they used the tax returns to beat mitt romney over the head and paint him as a rich billionaire. donald trump will play by his rules and it's going to serve him very well in the future. >> all right. -- >> this is not about a playbook -- >> should be part of the conversation this morning. we got to wrap it up there. jason, kaley, thanks so much. we're going to speak with a representative from the cruz campaign later this hour because we've seen the back and forth between marco rubio and donald trump, where does that leave ted cruz? some said this was a three-man race. where is the third man? can he repeat his success in iowa after those straight loses? voting in south carolina, though, where we are, here in colombia, we, of course, following that now an hour and a half into voting here, democrats
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plus had less major bleeding. both made switching to eliquis right for me. ask your doctor if it's right for you. i'm victor blackwell live from the campus of the university of south carolina here in colombia and time to vote here for the democrats in south carolina. primary votes being cast now. the polls are open but voter turnout at least at some of the polling stations is a bit thin. hillary clinton though is expected to win here. she's expecting and hoping to win big in the state that she lost to then senator barack
obama back in 2008. bernie sanders does not expect to win here. he of course hopes to narrow the margin but already stumping in super tuesday states. joe johns is live from that polling station in lexington. joe, give us an idea where the candidates are today and we're seeing a different strategy from bernie sanders here in south carolina where he's expected to lose versus what we saw from hillary clinton in new hampshire where she was expected to lose. she ran hard in new hampshire. sanders has already moved on. >> he has moved on, and i think it's important to say this is so much about expectations, victor. hillary clinton's expectations bar is set very high that's because she's far ahead in the polls and the question is whether she gets a huge turnout. the expectations bar is set very low for bernie sanders because he's so far behind in the polls in south carolina and if he were
to just bring it within single digits, it would be viewed by some as almost a win for him. now, as far as where the candidates are today, hillary clinton off to balabama and return to south carolina. bernie sanders on to texas and then minnesota. he was here yesterday in orangeburg, south carolina, at south carolina state university hammering away at some of the key messages, listen. >> i do not have a super pac. i do not raise millions of dollars from wall street or powerful special interest. there was a bill so-called welfare reform bill. and the thesis, the idea behind that is that poor people were ripping off the welfare systems. i vigorously opposed that legislation. secretary clinton supported that
legislation. that's an important difference between us. >> the one thing we can say for sure is, victor, the pivot to the super tuesday states is happening very quickly. these candidates now looking forward to when so many states vote on tuesday. back to you. >> just three days away, joe johns for us in lexington. joe, thank you so much. let's talk about the issues now starting with gun control and hillary clinton trying to show that contrast between herself and bernie sanders and has backup, her latest ad with former arizona congresswoman gabby giffords back
in 2011 when she was severely wounded, shot in the head at an event there. listen to part of the ad. >> i'm fed up. we have a gun violence problem, so i'm voting for hillary
clinton. she's tough. she will stand up to the gun lobby. she will fight to make our families safer. it matters. >> i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> hillary clinton making
the pitch to voters that she is stronger on gun control, leaders sanders with african american voters in south carolina. so can she start looking ahead to the general election? back with us, cnn political contributor arel lewis, we'll start with the democrats, will sanders still be a threat? he can't just stay close in these first 11 states and moving through march. he's got to win somewhere. >> well, we know he's going to win on tuesday probably in his home state of vermont. he's also polling very well in nearby massachusetts. so he won't be completely routed i guess at that level but, you know, with the democratic rules
when it comes to assigning delegates is if he does stay close, he does have a scenario where he can get to the convention with a sizable percentage, sizable number of delegates and use that as a bargains chip to force some issues into the party platform, maybe get the party to adopt new rules and certainly, if he loses to secretary clinton, get her to take on some of his people, some of his issues, that thing. there are very good reasons for bernie sanders to fight really hard, even understanding there are states probably out of his reach on tuesday, victor. >> let's talk about the republicans now and the states that donald trump up in ten of the 11. one poll in texas has him virtually tied with ted cruz but i wondered does donald trump secretly or the campaign want cruz to win in texas that way he'll stay in the race and
continue to divide the vote? >> that's an interesting scenario. if only they have the ability to fine tune. this is really where the campaign turns into a flatout crazy brawl. it goes national on tuesday. on tuesday i'm sure donald trump would love to beat ted cruz in his home state because that will then sort of flip the switch and ted cruz is almost suggesting as much that it's critical in that there really might be some legitimate calls for him to drop out. ted cruz is said to have thousands and thousands of volunteers on the ground. if he can't win there, you have to ask questions where can he win. donald trump fending off this new surge between now and tuesday, politically speak, not
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ted cruz will hit the stage in atlanta in just a few hours, the first of his stops before he heads on to arkansas part of the push across the south. trying to regain momentum after the win in iowa. let's talk about this. to discuss we have the ted cruz president of the campaign and political columnist and donald trump supporter kaley is back with us and i want to start with you, ron. does this one on one between mar marco rubio and donald trump mar marginalize as we've seen the sustained saback and forth betwn rubio and trump? >> i don't know where that comes from. ted cruz is aggressively campaigning through super tuesday, texas governor greg abbott very popular here in the state of texas out campaigning
here in the state along with lieutenant governor dan patrick and former governor rick perry. ted cruz had a strong per fo fo in the debate and aggressively on the ground in these key states and we're doing well. we're going to win texas. marco rubio has a burning dumpster fire and he worried about. he still can't explain where he's going to win anywhere on super tuesday much less thereafter. i think we're in a very, very strong position and ted cruz is campaigning hard. >> donald trump paid your candidate a rare compliment, backhanded compliment but a compliment. i want you to watch this. >> i have had, you know, i've had a lot of difficulties with ted because he lies. i've dealt with much tougher. a guy like rubio is a baby but a guy like ted is tougher. he is tougher and smarter in all fairness, ted is actually
smarter. he's a smarter person than rubio. >> what do you think about that? i guess a backhanded compliment to hit back at rubio calling ted cruz smarter the tough guy. >> well, i mean, that's very nice, particularly when it comes to honesty. donald trump recently said he's won quote most of the lawsuits over his problem over trump university and in fact "the washington post" and that's not true. and lawsuits two of which are class actions and donald trump is not a very good judge of anyone else's character or himself for that matter. >> kaley, i want you to listen and you said this from former mexican president va sen day fox in which he compares donald
trump to hitler, listen. >> you bring back america to what it was, that's crazy. never before america, united states was so big, so strong, so powerful, so successful. he says he's going to bring that nation back to the old days of politics, war, and everything. it's -- he remembers me of hitler, that's the way he's started speaking. >> kaley, when we look back to parliament in the u.k., discussing banning donald trump from coming into the country, we look back to the spat that he had with the pope in south carolina, now we're seeing this from former president fox. does this start to erode the, i guess, expectation that he can
work with world leaders if you've got one now calling him hitler? >> i don't think so. i think vicente fox, it's remp henceble to cam pair the race to hitler, someone that committed genocide on an entire population. it's a horrid comparison to make of a democrat and republican, uncalled for. as for cooperating with world leaders, donald trump can do that and he's done that and built a $10 billion brand by cooperating with people around the world and i think you're seeing backlash because donald trump's main message is america first, america before free trade agreements. america before allowing illegal ill gra ingrants and it poses a threat to other nations and other interests. so it's america first and i think that's why you see backlash from world leaders. >> ron, there was a comment from lindsey graham, former opponent. we know south carolina senator. it was at the washington press
club foundation dinner and a light hearted dinner and he said if you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial was in the senate, nobody could convictk convict you and erupted in laughter and continues the narrative he's not a well-liked man and what do you think whababout what we're hear from lindsey graham, this joke about killing your candidate? >> i think it's -- if anything is a vote of confidence of ted cruz, having a bunch of washington d.c. insiders, you know, laughing at a joke like that. ted cruz said he would go to washington d.c. and challenge the leadership in both parties, particularly the republican party which he note in conflict after conflict with barack obama that republican leadership surrendered before breakfast and we've seen that to be true with republicans frustrated with the
lack of republican agenda even though we won the house and won the senate. you know, ted cruz did not go to washington d.c. to change ideas and become somebody else and climb the latter. ted cruz insure rent conservative conservative and conservative leaders chat le ee the status quo and with republicans that want to challenge. >> three days until super tuesday. we'll see how he does in texas. ron and kaley, thank you both. >> thanks, victor. >> christi, back to you. >> thank you so much. great conversations there as we also have to talk about apple ratcheting up the fight with the fbi warning that compiling with the order to hack a phone could mean a government with quote limitless powers. but first, a new california startup company allows busy pet owners to leave their dogs with
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i speak to ted olson repping apple and had strong wording telling me if apple loses the fight, the government's demands and a government with limitless power. i asked him what about national security? happens in the future when the fbi is sitting on the phone of a known terrorist and i'm pending threat and no one can get in. >> we have to do everything possible to defeat terrorisms, to defeat and capture and punish people like osama bin laden and so forth but can't do it by breaking our constitution. we have got to stop someplace. we cannot break someone's back in order to get them to tell somebody where somebody else is. if we're saying that there's a serious threat, throw out the constitution in order to prevent that threat, where do we draw the line? >> the government is expected to respond to apple by march 10th. a final hearing will be held on march 22nd and olson says they are repaired to take this case
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the president said no, i'm not going to sing. i gus he couldn't resist. victor gets like that, too, during the break but we'll never show you. hey, victor. >> hey, christi. we'll continue live special coverage of the democratic primary here in south carolina coming up at 10:00 eastern. the show will continue. we've got special guests coming up including killer mike who is with the sanders campaign. smerconish starts now. ♪ ♪ i'm michael smerconish. how can i sum up where we are with the race. some think senator lindsey graham might have nailed it. >> my party is gone [ bleep ] bat crazy.