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and there was a not so veiled reference to donald trump. she said despite what you hear, we don't need to make america great again. america has never stopped being great. but we do need to make america whole again. jake tapper, not so subtle in terms of a reference to donald trump. and she also at the very end she cited first corinthians. not one corinthians. >> right. donald trump having once said two corinthians instead of second corinthians. this is the first time i've heard her talk about corporate responsibility. it's a way of talking about the business world that is different than bernie sanders. it's a way of offering a general election pitch, really. i mean, she is talking about holding businesses accountable. but it's not an antibusiness message. i suspect in the days and weeks to come, we're going to hear more of hillary clinton the general election candidate as she pivots away from bernie
sanders and towards probably donald trump, the republicans. >> i think it's also fascinating to talk about what wolf was just saying about how much of barack obama her former rival's play book she has used in south carolina. not only reaches out to the african-american vote, but also to the senior democrats in that state. jim clyburn who is the dean of the democratic delegation down in south carolina, he introduced her, he endorsed her, which was obviously a big help for her. i was looking at some of the things he said in his memoir in 2014, recalling intense angry phone calls he got from president clinton because of the fact that president clinton thought that he was, who was neutral in 2008, had it out for hillary clinton. it just goes to show as we've said all night what a difference eight years makes. >> clyburn stayed neutral, but
he was critical of some of the comments that bill and hillary clinton had made in 2007-2008 during that contentious primary season. so a lot of people in camp clinton thought he wasn't actually neutral. he was feigning neutrality. he got an angry phone call from bill clinton, as you note. i suspect the phone calls are going to be much more jubilant. jim a very strong supporter of hillary clinton leading up to this primary. he served with bernie sanders in the house of representatives. he knows bernie sanders. but a full throated endorsement from jim clyburn when she needed it. >> i'm told by a clinton source that before bernie sanders got on the plane -- he was headed to minnesota, which is a march 1st state -- before he got on the plane he called hillary clinton to congratulate her before the
polls even closed. he didn't concede huh becongratulate ebecon graut he congratulated her. >> marco rubio the night of the nevada caucuses earlier this week, i suppose it was, wasn't there, didn't even speak in the state. eight years ago hillary clinton was not in south carolina as the returns came in. anderson, a very, very big night. it would be hard to over state just the significance of this victory and the margin, the scale as the votes come in. right now it is 76% clinton, 23.4% sanders. that's with 26% of the vote in. it probably won't be that big of a margin, but it's gonna be big. >> right now larger percentage of the african-american vote than barack obama got in 2008. >> that was a three-way race.
there's no taking it away from her if these numbers hold up. and it looks like they will. this is a crushing victory for hillary clinton, i mean, really a crush victory for her here. no forecasted her getting votes on this scale. >> so all those questions that were asked in the wake of even iowa and new hampshire, can bernie sanders make inroads among african-american voters, will the fire wall for hillary clinton hold, are all those questions now answered? >> i think a lot of them are being answered. right now she's positioned herself for a sweep in the south. she's got to fight sanders to kind of a tie with white voters and do as well as she did tonight with african-american voters. he's going to be in the minnesota and colorado and massachusetts and vermont. she's going to play in the
south. >> other than vermont, she is competing in all those states. >> right. but she now is positioned, i think, to sweep states like alabama, virginia, tennessee, arkansas. >> georgia, texas. >> exactly. i think that he's got a little bit different terrain, you're right. >> my point is she's running nationally and he's running regionally and that sort of speaks to where we are. >> and you heard that tonight when she is tweeting donald trump with make america great again. this is a crush victory for her. it's also a victory for the black lives matter movement. in this speech i think she was at her best when she was talking about those five women who lost sons in different incidences. sabrina fulton who lost her son trayvon martin. she talks about michiga. her opening line was there is no barrier too big to break, which i think resonates with a lot of african-americans who were part
of history in electing barack obama and in some ways want to be part of history again. >> we also heard her taking on donald trump. is that something you think we are going to be hearing from her more and more now? >> absolutely. it's not that i think anybody in her team the taking the nomination for granted. but the dominant story is donald trump. and he is really doing remarkably well with a message that's very devicive. mexicans are murder vsmurders. all matter of division. she stood up tonight and said no, we need more love and kindness. when's the last time -- i think bobby kennedy was the last one i can remember saying we need more love and kindness. >> that's who she wants people to think is going to be the republican nominee. she's not going to mention anything that marco rubio said. she's not sub tweeting m ining
rubio. she doesn't want to remind people that marco rubio is out there. they're afraid of marco rubio. they want trump. and unlike paul, they still believe they can crush him in a g general election. they want to remind voters that trump is out there and that's the matchup. and she, not bernie, is best at swinging against trump. >> let me now throw a little cold water on the theory, because of the simple fact that no one knows a state that marco rubio can win in a republican primary. that is why we're directing this strategy and messaging toward donald trump. what you did see today is that target of love and kindness. and when she pivoted to this general election message that she had, what was refreshing for me is that flint, michigan, the criminal justice reform are still part of that general election strategy. there was a bit of, is she still going to talk about our issues --
>> she's got a few more black states to get through. let's be clear about that. i'm just saying. >> i think that she understands -- i do think this is a staple and a pillar of her message going forward. but i think the overarching message is love and kindness. >> we expect to hear from bernie sanders about 9:00 eastern tonight. we are going to bring that to you live. >> hillary clinton's speech was beautiful. >> thank you. >> it was beautiful. and it got more beautiful as she went. >> yeah. >> and i thought that -- i mean, it does not get any better than to say it's not about making america great, it's about making america whole. that works with the left, the right and the center. i thought that was beautiful. if these numbers hold up, you're looking at a wholesale repudiation of the sanders' campaign. and so if -- >> in south carolina, though.
>> sure, sure. in south carolina. but she's going to roll through a bunch more states just like that. you've got to acknowledge that she is much much better now than she was two months ago or even one month ago. >> one week ago. look, i thought this was ecumenical. it was powerful, it was strong. she spoke to the hearts and soul of not just the people in the room, but i think the people who are going to be looking to hear from hillary clinton in the next couple of days. the biggest surprise on super tuesday is texas with 22 2 delegates. that reference was not so much to antagonize donald trump but to remind hispanic voters, who are going to be key in these upcoming states, that she wants to trak on theake on these so-c
vi divisive issues. >> nobody is talking about marco rubio because everybody is drafting off of the lead horse here. donald trump is the center of attention and donald trump is the most vivid figure out there. and he has defined his issues very, very sharply. so it's natural to position yourself off of him. i think that's one of the answers to how you're going to get more enthusiasm from some democratic voters in the fall. >> let's check back in with wolf blitzer. >> thank you. i want to go right to brianna keilar. she just heard the secretary of state deliver that powerful address with a few not so subtle references to donald trump. i didn't hear any subtle references to marco rubio or any of the other republican presidential candidates.
i take it that was not by accident. >> reporter: that was not by accident. it was actually building, wolf, on something she said earlier today in alabama. and we are told by sources that she and her campaign believe donald trump is going to be the republican nominee. of course, as she mentioned, there's something to this idea that i think they would rather take on donald trump than marco rubio. so there's also that. but this speech, as far as all of the speeches go in her campaign since she launched it last april, this one i think, talking to sources, her campaign considers to be an inflection point for her. they feel this is a message that will really work for her. she started during her new hampshire concession speech. maybe people didn't pay a whole lot of attention to that because that was the night of a big loss for her. but that's where she unveiled this idea of breaking down barriers. her campaign really thought that got her some traction in nevada and here in south carolina.
her speech built on that. clearly as this is her first big speech positioning herself as an alternative to donald trump, laying out her argument against donald trump, basically that she is a uniter. that he is a divider. saying that america is great and that she wants to make america whole, not to make america great, because it already is. she doesn't want to build a wall. she wants to tear down barriers. >> i want to go to jeff zeleny over at bernie sanders' campaign head quarter in minnesota. it's been a crushing set back south carolina, not by ten points or 20 or 30, but maybe as many as 40 or 50 points in a state where he did compete. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. they were expecting a defeat. they were not expecting a blowout like this. this is surprising and disappointing many sanders' supporters in south carolina and
nationally. advisors tell me that they do not expect this campaign to be over. advisors tell me we are going to fight this all the way to the convention. how long is the sanders campaign going to go on? it's important to remember only 4% of the delegates have been picked here. by vowing to fight all the way to the convention, this could divide this democratic party. tonight as senator sanders is making his way here to minnesota from texas, where he was earlier tonight, there's a new endorsement from the minneapolis star tribune that is endorse hillary clinton. it says, we believe that clinton is the clear choice over sanders for heart and head alike. a force on the national landscape for more than 30 years. clinton has distinguished herself in foreign and domestic policy in ways that make her well suited to represent the i november.
of course, just one endorsement tonight from the minneapolis star tribune as senator sanders is coming here to make a stand in minnesota. this is a key state for him as well. the sanders campaign believes they can win in states like minnesota, michigan and certainly the west coast. at some point you have to start winning again to make this whole, wolf. tonight senator sanders is going to congratulate clinton as he did earlier this a private phone call. several hundred people on hand here waiting in rochester, minnesota, for senator sanders when he comes here and starts looking forward to the rest of his campaign. a key race alert right now in south carolina. almost 40% of the vote is now in. look at this wide margin. hillary clinton with 75.1%.
bernie sanders 24.3%. she has 131,320 votes right now. bernie sanders only 42,517. i want to go over to jonhn king. a lot of people were expecting an impressive win for hillary clinton tonight in south carolina. but 50 points, that is huge. remember, barack obama carried the state eight years ago against hillary clinton by 28 points. >> this is not a victory. it's a thrashing. and it's a message. this is the democratic base for the first time in the state. the majority african-american vote. and hillary clinton is sending a message to bernie sanders and to the country essentially say rg you a protest candidate or can you compete? tonight she's sending a clear message. look at the map filling in. you notice anything? there's no bernie sanders. he's not even winning a county in the state. if we go back in time, hillary clinton lost in a three way race
with john edwards. as you go into these counties, clinton getting 20% here, clinton getting 20% here, clinton getting 17% here. obama had a clear victory in the swath where you have the highest american percentage. i could only find one county, lexington county where bernie sanders was getting 40. most of the places when you go through these counties, it's a thrashing. he's in 19, 20, maybe cracking 30. it's an overwhelming victory. it's not just a victory. the reason it's so important, number one, hillary clinton now has something in common with donald trump. she's won three of the first four. a different map. cruz won iowa. trump won the other three. she's won three of the first four. this is the momentum phase of the campaign. a lot of super tuesday plays out down here in states like south carolina where you're going to
have and electorate like tonight. the scope of this victory tonight, you saw a very happy candidate there delivering that speech. it sends a message to bernie sanders. it sends a message to any democrats that were nervous about her candidacy. >> similarly in some of the other southern states this coming tuesday as well, looks good for her in those states as well. stand by. we're getting ready to hear bernie sanders. he's going to be delivering a speech. we'll get much more reaction to what hillary clinton has to say. much more of our special coverage right after this. dad, you can just drop me off right here. oh no, i'll take you up to the front of the school. that's where your friends are.
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welcome back. we're getting ready to hear from bernie sanders. he's the big loser tonight in south carolina. she has won dramatically. hillary clinton, let's take a look at the numbers right now. with almost half of the vote in, she is up by 74.4% to bernie sanders 24.9%. this is as i've been saying, a lot of us thought she would win impressively. but 50 points -- >> the numbers are still coming in. >> half of the vote's in. >> that's a pretty big
landslide. i have to say in terms of the momentum that it could provide former secretary of state hillary clinton as she goes into super tuesday, where she's already heavily favored in many, many states, it could be a pretty key moment. this is a sizable win and as john king noted, this is a signal from a state, democrats in a state, saying, we are really behind this one candidate. this is a decisive and probably historic victory. >> right. it looks like a route. no question about it. david, you have some more information about how hillary clinton was able to ski to victory. >> yeah. we've been talking a lot about the black vote overall. we went back to look at how the black vote split in 2008. remember, that was a three-person race. not a two-person race. take a look at the 2008 african-american vote there. it was 78% for barack obama, 19% for hillary clinton and john
edwards got 2% of the vote back in fwag2008. look at tonight. hillary clinton, 87% of the african-american. 17% of the african-american vote went to bernie sanders. she is over performing where barack obama was back in 2008 with african-americans. and the turnout is higher. i want to throw out some over numbers here. think ahead to tuesday. looking back at 2008, this was the african-american turnout. georgia 51%. tennessee 39%. texas 19%. this is where the race is going now on tuesday night on super tuesday. >> that's why i was just e-mailing with a clinton source about this issue, which is why they feel so comfortable that even if they actually expect to lose some of the almost a dozen states that are going to be voting on tuesday, they feel
that because they're going to do so well with these southern states because they have such a large african-american electorate and because those states tend to have more delegates than the other states, they feel that's win of the reasons why they feel very comfortable. it is a delegate race right now. >> yeah. i don't want to over state the donald trump and bernie sanders comparison. obviously they're very different. but they are both creatures of the phenomenon of angry voters, people who don't trust the establishment. one of the things that donald trump has been able to do that bernie sanders has not is donald trump has been able to win over evangelical voters. evangelical voters a significant part of the republican base in many key states. african-americans, similarly, are a key component of the democratic base and what bernie sanders has not been able to do is eat into that part of the
base the way that donald trump has for evangelicals. >> that's a great point. and like other republican candidates who have tried to get evangelicals, bernie sanders has tried to get african-americans. he's tried big time. particularly in the last couple of weeks in south carolina. and it just didn't work. >> it is not as if bernie sanders did not invest a lot of resources and people and money in the state of south carolina. >> yeah. the clinton campaign is making sure we all know exactly how many resources that bernie sanders put into this, which is $2 million on television and radio, 200 in state staff. he did put a lot into it. and yet he did so poorly in this state. there is no way for the sanders campaign to come out of this and say, well, there is kind of a silver lining here. there really isn't a silver lining in this. >> not just because of south carolina, but what it says about
mississippi, louisiana. >> absolutely. texas, tennessee, arkansas and georgia. and by the way, if i were a republican and i'm look at hillary clinton's numbers with african-american voters in the state of south carolina -- and you know i'm not saying a republican is going to win the state of south carolina, but you look at the attraction she had from african-american voters. doesn't that make republicans nervous? >> it depends on the turnout, which we don't have yet. proportion proportionally, yes, that's a scary number for republicans, especially with donald trump as a front-runner and potential nominee. that's why i think there are so many conservatives who think that someone like rubio uses much better language about diversity for example. but still don't know exactly how many african-american voters have turned out. don't know how many young voters have turned out.
if hillary clinton is turning out african-americans in similar numbers to barack obama, this is a huge problem for the gop. >> she didn't in that this was a smaller turnout overall, but proportionately they came out in larger percentages than they did before. doesn't this go to the core here in that we're becoming a more diverse country with each election, 26% in 2008, 28% in 2012, black, hispanic and asian. going to be 30% in 2016. so the candidate who can speak to the entire can you waountry, speak to the whole of america has a better chance to win and probably should have a better chance to win. and that's a big concern. and this is the problem for the republican party, because the things that may inspire the base are not the things that are going to win a general election. this is the problem they need to solve. >> exactly right.
>> and that also just so we don't get too happy here, that also may be true in things that inspired this base may turn off some other important voters in the general election. this level of enthusiasm in the african-american community brings tear to my eyes. i mean, that teach was beautiful. and the embrace of those mothers i think was extraordinary. i worry sometimes though if her on the strategy is to hold off bernie sanders is just to hold onto dear life to the black vote and you don't see any other enthe enthusiasm for her, now she's got to figure out how to get those young people excited again. >> somebody else got enthused. she got 76% tonight. >> there's definitely a pony in that stable and not very much waste. >> i'm saying there's no downside at all. it's over. >> no, no, no. >> one at a time.
>> it did dispel some of those myths that we were perpetuating after iowa and new hampshire. hillary clinton had a woman problem. and i was saying that my mom and her friends haven't voted yet. when my mom and her friends vote, then maybe the numbers will change a little bit. when historically black colleges and universities now have their voices heard, maybe those numbers amongst young millennials change a little bit. what we saw is the blessing of the democratic party which is that diversity wins the day now. you just can't win the presidency of the united states with white conservatives any longer. you now have to build a coalition because the country is getting browner. >> there's nothing i'm hearing from either hillary or bernie that causes me pain in november. we can run. bernie's not where i am. but bernie's going after wall street. lots of conservatives want somebody to go after wall street too. what hillary and bernie are running on are things that play
just fine in november. the republicans have a different problem. they're running on immigrant bashing and muslim bashing and telling women if they're raped, she must carry that rapist's baby to term. that's way outside the mainstream. it's republicans who are seeking the nomination who are making themselves unelectable in november. >> a small point but an important one, any instinct on the part of the clinton campaign to try and shove bernie sanders out of the race would be a really misplaced instinct. he's going to go through this process and he'll probably go right through to june even after she clenches. >> you have no doubt he reel go to the convention? >> oh yeah. i don't think there's any question. >> he still has money and the potential to raise some money thanch. >> that's a good point. >> he started off to make a point and then suddenly he became competitive. >> right. >> but he's still definitely had
an impact on the debate. >> the question is now how do you raise money after this loss? it's not going to be as easy. because you can't spin it away. you have to kind of talk about it. and you know the money -- >> 26 states and over 56% of the delegates in march, you can raise a lot of money. >> right. >> we're getting more numbers. let's go over to wolf and john king. >> thank you very much. very impressive win tonight for hillary clinton. right now 61% of the vote in. almost a 50-point spread, huge spread for hillary clinton over bernie sanders tonight. it bodes well looking ahead to this coming tuesday. >> we expected a clinton win. we did not assume it was going to be by a margin like this. it's a sweeping win at the moment. at the moment bernie sanders is not winning a county across south carolina. the map is impressive.
let's go forward to super tuesday. let's switch maps and look at where we are in the delegate race. pledge delegates. hillary clinton has 445 super delegates. those in new hampshire, iowa and nevada a pretty competitive race coming into tonight. based on now, proportionalty, this is how -- by the end of the night like this, sanders will get some delegates because it's proportional. if she can keep that demographic edge -- look at super tuesday, a lot of states voting on tuesday. we head into the math phase of the campaign. vermont, we expect senator sanders to win his home state of vermont. he's in minnesota tonight. we don't know what's going to happen. let's just say bernie sanders is right and he's competitive in minnesota. another one of his states is oklahoma. again, hillary clinton thinks there's moderate to conservative democrats, some african-americans too. for the sake of the
hypothetical, let's give bernie sanders another one of his super tuesday targets. we'll give him all four of his super tuesday targets. secretary clinton would still be picking up delegates. but if we gave bernie sanders his top four targets on super tuesday, she still sweeps down here. we gave her a bigger margin in these states. if she gets that, she starts to pull ahead. again, democratic rules, bernie sanders proportionate. he stays in the game, but he starts to pull ahead. then march gets very busy. what they hope to do by the end of march is sweep the rest of these states and start to edge out. again, democratic rule, sanders could stay skpcompetitive. these later march states we have him at a 55-45. if clinton can get to 60% of n
some of these states she starts to inch away. if she can win anywhere close to what she's winning tonight, she'll actually pull even further ahead than this. it's a good night for the clinton campaign. they hope it gives them momentum into this incredibly important a month of march. if she could run up the score a little bit and keep winning, she could stretch it out a bit more. >> we're going to be hearing from bernie sanders momentarily. >> the question of course is -- i mean, if looking forward to these other southern states, if hillary clinton is age to continue, this what does it do to sanders' overall message. does he begin to try to shift it? what is his message to those supporters when it looks less and less likely he has a chance to win? >> in nevada he was able to go
listen i was down and i almost toppled the democratic machine. how he changes his message going forward, i think it's going to be a challenge. and also the specter of him only competing in white states, only doing well with white voters, i think that could start to be a bit of a problem as well. >> is it a problem with senator sanders or is it just a strength of hillary clinton? when you look at senator sanders' record, this is a guy who at age 20 was arrested for trying to desegregate schoolhousing in the university of chicago. >> i say this with no animus whatsoever toward senator sanders and i'm neutral. all of the years that i've been in the democratic party, the clintons have really been out there each and every day. when president obama lost in 2010 -- he didn't lose but he lost a congress. it was the clintons to went back out there with barack obama in
twelve twel 2012 to raise money and lift spirits across the country. when you get somebody like jim clyburn. he is not a paper endorsement. jim clyburn has an organization. you can put two, three, four, $6 million against jim clyburn. you're not going to take jim clyburn on in his state. i think bernie sanders is not a send a message candidate. he has a deep and profound message that resonates with democratic voters. people like him. but at the same time this is a victory of a woman who's -- >> i want to say something about this clyburn endorsement. because one of this things that's in play here is you have a bunch of folks who either for neutral or endorsed barack obama back in 2008. and it wasn't so much that they didn't have a relationship with the clintons, but they wanted to endorse obama. they thought he was the right candidate. i think a bunch of them now are
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we're getting ready to hear from democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders. he has a crushing defeat in the south carolina democratic presidential primary to hillary clinton. he's going to be speaking fairly soon and we're going to have live coverage of that. hillary clinton is the big winner tonight. hillary clinton with 74% of the vote now in, she has 73.6% to bernie sanders 25.8%. 13 137,129 more votes for hillary clinton over bernie sanders. 74%, that's a lot of the vote has now been counted and it could go up a little bit. but if she wins by 40 or 45 or
50 points that's huge. >> it's like 2008 when hillary clinton lost the state by 28 points. it's almost as if she's like you want a landslide, i'll show you what a landslide really is in south carolina. how do you like 48 points? one of the things interesting about this primary and caucus season, wolf and dana, is that republicans and democrats, when given the choice between are you looking for somebody who's an outsider or somebody who has experience, they really are divided. obviously the republicans really, really want an outsider. what do the democrats that went to the polls in south carolina today looking for? >> right. the outsider movement has been huge on the republican side. i didn't use huge by accident. you know, donald trump has been doing incredibly well, in large part because of of that. you don't have that option really so much in the democratic -- >> right, although despite bernie sanders decades in congress, he is fuelled by some
of that outsider energy, there's no doubt, but it's just not what south carolina democratic primary voters today were looking for. 87% of those showing up in the polls today in south carolina wanted somebody experienced in politics. only 10% wanted somebody from outside the establishment. when you look at how those 87% that want political experience split, clinton, 83% of them go to her, bernie sanders gets 17% of them. and this, compared to last saturday when we looked at the republican primary in south carolina, the republicans were split, 47% wanted experience, 48% wanted outsider. >> former secretary of state, former senator, former first lady. >> you don't get a more experienced resume than that. >> to be frank, sanders has plenty of experience. he's just something of an outsider within the establishment. but he's a member of the establishment. once again, we see the dominance of hillary clinton in this
category, 87%. i mean, it's just incredible. or 83% to 17%. it's just incredible. >> it is. you know, there's no question as we were just saying that they're both, at least one is a current member of the senate, the other is a former and has had a lot of other titles. but he has kind of raged against the machine a little bit in the past and even made noise about running against barack obama in 2008. but so he's an outsider but he is somebody, as you said, with political experience. but going back to being the mayor of burlington. >> he's absolutely an outsider, but he has experience. >> 100%. >> he's been in government for decades. >> right, right, a quarter of a century. >> my point is, yes, she has more of a breadth of experience, but the idea that people looking for sprns weexperience went to to 17%.
still almost a 50% margin of victory. just incredible. >> it really is. especially as you were saying that everybody thought the nearly 30% victory that barack obama had eight years ago was remarkable, and she's doing even better than that. >> one of the reasons why i think this victory is so surprising is because nobody expected the margin to be this big. i was just looking -- brian fallon, who is one of the clinton campaign's chief spokesmen, tweeted remarks by a former democratic chairman in south carolina in which he predicted it was just going to be a very small margin of victory, maybe single digits. he has not been bullish on hillary clinton. and brian fallon retweeted it, perhaps knowingly setting the expectations low, saying the guy knows his state, setting forth an expert that i doubt brian fallon considers to be a real expert.
>> i don't think so. clearly not now. >> anderson? >> thanks. and we also heard hillary clinton tonight in her speech and again just to bring you up to speed if you're just joining us, we're expecting to hear from bernie sanders probably close to the top of the hour, but we can't say for sure exactly when. we're going to bring that to you live. but we heard hillary clinton in her victory speech in south carolina pivoting really, focusing an awful lot on donald trump, not really using his name, but using a lot of his slogans and giving them a new spin. >> despite what you hear, we don't need to make america great again. america has never stopped being great. but we do need to make america whole again. instead of building walls, we need to be tearing down barriers.
we need to show by everything we do that we really are in this together. >> paul, i mean, you're working with a pro-hillary clinton super pac. but in the past you certainly have followed a lot of her speeches. what do you make of what you heard from her tonight, particularly aiming ap donald trum trump? >> what i was more impressed by was the parts that came out of her heart. years ago her husband was running. i remember her telling me, i go to bed at night and it's like a movie. the rope lines were her favorite thing. people come to you and open up their hearts. this is a very reserved person. when you did that town hall meeting and that rabbi stood up and talked about the whole world is one but you are dust, she opened up more in public than i have seen very often in 25 years. and that was hard to do, much harder even in a prepared
speech. she sat there and poured her heart out. the most important moments has been when she met with these mom who is lost children. it just opened her heart. she went to scripture. her faith has been very private for most of her life. now she's opening up a little bit. it's what voters want. it's not what she likes. she just wants to put her position papers out. she's a wonk. it's impressive to see her do something she's not a natural at and wasn't really enjoy, but people want it. >> when she does it, it's powerful. automat all the people, whatever you want to say about it, there were people across this country white and black, republican and democrat, who cried real tears. and she found a way to channel that for the whole country. she did some ministry today for the whole country. >> anybody who starts to go after donald trump, donald trump usually responds. if he hasn't already tweeted, he
certainly will as soon as his plane lands. but is -- does she want to get into a fight with donald trump? does it benefit her at this point? >> this may be -- look, i may not yet be jaded by reality and i get that. but she's betting on something that i'm betting on, which is the american people. she's betting on things like love and kindness. she saw that hope and change saved the day. she's betting on love and kind n ness to out weigh the -- this donald trump train is only getting 35% of the republican electorate. that is not who we are. that is not the fabric of her country. she's betting on this to win the day. this is going to be the most dirty campaign that we've seen. i believe she's a fighter. she's resilient. she's been through that, but she's betting on love and
kindness. >> love and kindness nesness i for now. let me remind everyone who we're dealing with. donald trump has the highest unfavorables of any political figure running from either party since the history of gallup polling. hillary clinton, not that far behind donald trump when it comes to unfavorables. so this will be a contest if it's hillary clinton and donald trump, between two characters, two candidates with very high unfavorables and very compelling personalities on both sides. it's going to be fascinating really to see who is least liked. who is most liked of the least liked. >> you know what? this isn't going to be an election about persuading. because the people who like donald trump are not going to like hillary clinton. so it's not going to be an election about persuasion. it's going to be an election about mobilization, about getting your voters out.
>> i think you're underestimating trump's ability to appeal to older, white, middle class -- >> reagan democrats. that's part of the mobilization. that's part of it. >> but you're also -- it will change the calculus completely if he's the nominee. there are some groups he may be able to reach who other candidates wouldn't. there are some who some republicans might be able to do better with that he can't touch. talk about building a wall. he's built a wall between himself and hispanic voters that can't be deconstructed by -- >> it's getting higher. >> exactly. exactly. >> how many republicans for all the the reagan democrats that might turn out, if that is true for a nominee like donald trump, how many republicans will stay home? because they don't like hillary clinton? >> i know plenty of republicans who would stay home if --
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hillary clinton wins the democratic primary in south carolina by a very wide margin over bernie sanders. with two straight victories hillary clinton gets the momentum she wanted going into super tuesday. >> tomorrow, this campaign goes national! we are going to compete were every vote in every state. we are not taking anything and we're not taking anyone for granted.
>> bernie sanders wasn't around for the results. his campaign did put a lot into south carolina. once the handwriting was on the wall, sanders moved onto some of the other super tuesday states.. sanders says this campaign is just beginning. his goal going forward, gather as many delegates as possible, win, lose or draw. the republicans are already in full super tuesday mode. and there's no letup in the brawl between donald trump and marco rubio. they're tossing around words like liar, con artist, accusing each other of fraud. ted cruz says all that bickering isn't a good thing. but he's keeping up his own sharp attacks on donald trump, who hopes to put the race away on super tuesday. we want to welcome our viewers
in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in the cnn election center with our special live coverage. i want to go to brianna keilar over at clinton headquarters. >> reporter: her campaign is relishing this moment, wolf. that is certainly no understatement. hillary clinton's communications director talking to reporters a short time ago and she said that they did better than they expected here in south carolina. she did noticeably strike a cautious tone. she said there's still a long way to go, there's still 46 states. she did say if african-american turnout for hillary clinton here in south carolina is indicative of what we will see in the southern states, they feel they're very well-positioned to pull ahead considerably from bernie sanders. now, privately, wolf, this is the more interesting part. sources with the campa