tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN March 7, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PST
thank you so much for joining us. set your dvr to record "outfront" so you can watch the show any time. ac 360 starts right now. >> thanks for joining us. whether it's the voting tomorrow including the contest in michigan and mississippi or tightening two-way race between ted cruz and donald trump or the fact that michael bloomberg will not make it a three-way race or trying to mend fences with african-americans after last night's debate in flint. we begin with the republicans with trump in mississippi chasing a big victory there and in michigan tomorrow and next week of course florida and ohio. both he and ted cruz trying to squeeze marco rubio out. senator rubio who is campaigning in his home state of florida while still trailing there appears to be closing the gap. sara murray is at the site of the trump event in madison, mississippi. she joins us with more on trump and cruz who is expected to make a late night campaign stop in grand rapids, michigan.
what's the message from trump's campaign as they head into tomorrow's primaries? >> reporter: that's right, anderson. i still think they feel good going into tomorrow. you saw donald trump campaigning here in mississippi. mississippi and michigan are the two big prizes they'll be looking at. and he was here tonight rallying a huge crowd and saying, look, we are up in the polls. still make sure you turn out and vote. we want to win this state. this is our top prize for tomorrow. they still feel like they're in a good position because they're leading in the delegate count and looking forward to a number of these states that show them ahead in the polls. even if this gets down to a two-person race. >> ted cruz had a new event today to his schedule to try to do that? >> that's right. he added a couple new events to his schedule today. this saul coming after super saturday where ted cruz had a great night. came out with more delegates than donald trump. the cruz campaign wants to
sprint to the finish. they feel their momentum is on the upswing. they don't want to look back and say if we'd only done one more event or talked to a couple more voters we might to gotten over the hump in a place like michigan or mississippi. these are still states where you can pick up a number of delegates before we get to the winner take all states. in mississippi, as donald trump was speaking, rallying the crowd, we got a press release from the ted cruz campaign saying he'd picked up the endorsement of the mississippi governor phil prints. a big win for the cruz campaign and a little trolling while donald trump was on stage. >> in florida, trump wants to win. he's leading marco rubio by eight points in the latest monmouth university poll. a lot of ad wars on the air waves there on both sides, right? >> donald trump's campaign came out with a new ad on television going after marco rubio. their sort of first attack ad directed squarely at him. what you are seeing from the trump campaign and from the cruz
campaign is a sentiment it's kind of looking like a two-man race between these two guys. and they want to both take this opportunity in florida, donald trump especially going up on the air waves to try to knee cap marco rubio and get him out of the race there. of course rubio and his allies are working hard to win the state. rubio has promised he'll win there and his allies are spending tens of millions of dollars on the air waves. this is a big hurdle for him. >> sara murray, thanks very much. marco rubio who failed to win the endorsement of one of his home state's leading newspapers, the sun sentinel. instead the paper issuing a critique of all of them. >> rubio got his second win yesterday in puerto rico. he's focused on winning florida. what's the senator telling florida voters tonight? >> first let me just talk about that sun sentinel article. it was really stinging. the editorial basically saying rubio, no experience. he's done little but run for office. not the thing you want to hear
when addressing your rally supporters out here today. when he started out here in tampa, when he spoke to the crowd he said, look. this is all going to come down to florida. at which the crowd erupted. they know what's at stake here. this is do or die for rubio. this is a state that he must win if he has any hope at all of moving forward. so what he did tonight anderson, staying on message. some of the same things we've heard before. i'm the one that can unite the party. trump is a fraud. a vote for kasich and a vote for cruz is basically a vote for trump. all this as there are increasing calls for him to drop out of this race. >> trump started running an attack ad today against rubio. trump has been saying he should drop out of the race. what's rubio's response? >> yeah. well, rubio actually addressed reporters here tonight saying he has no intention of dropping out of this race. he is going to see it through, even though he acknowledges he's behind in the polls. you mentioned that most recent
poll showing trump at 38%, rubio at 30%. but still having said that, and speaking to one of his advisers tonight he tells me, we know we're the underdog but we also know how to win in this state. we have the database. we know where our supporters are. this is something we can do. they are confident they'll be able to squeak out a win here. but having said that, even when i was speaking to one of the rubio supporters here tonight who told me, look, we know we're the underdogs in this but also know there's an uphill battle in order to win florida. >> jason carroll, thanks. the reason this is all getting more interesting, the delegate count with ted cruz narrowing the gap. perhaps just for now. perhaps all the way to the convention. john king joins us for a closer look biy the numbers. >> let's take a quick peek at what's up stake tomorrow for the second super tuesday. four states in all.
delegates at stake. 166 for the democrats. 150 delegates for the republicans. this is why this is important. look at some of this delegate map. donald trump has won 43% of the republican delegates. he needs to win 54% of the remaining delegates to clinch. ted cruz with his advance on super saturday, 33% so far. he needs 60%. you see the hill is steeper. so far not so good and the future steeper hill for marco rubio and john kasich. that number looks big for donald trump. after the 15th, we're in winner take all territory. you win in florida, ohio, illinois, new york or pennsylvania down the road and those percentages start to drop. that's the map heading in. let's look at the democratic map. this is just pledge delegates. hillary clinton has won 59%. she'll clinch the nomination with just pledge delegates. a steeper hill for bernie sanders. it's closer to 43% because she has a bunch of superdelegates in her back pocket. if she wants to win it with the
pledge delegates has to keep doing what she's doing. here's where we are today. this is what is so striking after the weekend. ted cruz, 87 delegates behind donald trump. that's an advance that has him saying this is a two-man race. rubio at 149 thanks to puerto rico, he needs to do something to change the map. let's look at it. this is tomorrow. if you bring in all the states. if donald trump sweeps, of course they'll say we're back in business and they'll start to stretch out the delegate. let's watch michigan. see who wins. trump's favored in the polls. watch mississippi. could be bltd for ted cruz. trump is favored there. if cruz can pull off an upset in mississippi and come close in michigan, could change the delegate map. every candidate hits some speed bumps, we're okay. look ahead to march 15th. kasich wins at home and rubio wins at home, even if that's all they get and trump solidified tomorrow, he begins to reseize his momentum. it's critically important tomorrow and then on the 15th that even if they get trump,
even if they never trump or the anti-trump guys can take florida and ohio, if they really want to slow him down they have to do more than that. we have to go state by state. watch the tv ad spending and decisions made by the campaigns. to the democrats. here's in the state of play. in pledge delegates, she's got nearly 500 superdelegates in her back pocket. in pledge delegates, hillary ahead by 200 delegates. it's early in the race but tomorrow is critical for bernie sanders. in hillary clinton can win again in the south with african-american voters from south carolina all the way to texas, and be the if she wins big in the first midwest industrial battleground and wins michigan, her message is going to be stay in the race as long as you want but i'm winning in the economic states, industrial states. if bernie sanders can doo this, we have a different democratic race. not only the map but the moral argument for bernie sanders gets a lot more difficult. >> john, i want to bring in
gloria borger, ryan lizza, ana navarro, donna brazile and jeffrey lord. donna is a senior democrat icparty official. jeffrey is a trump supporter and former reagan white house political director. tomorrow night, how important is it? what are we going to know tomorrow night that we don't know right now? >> to what john was talking about, look at the state of mississippi. if ted cruz really wants to start solidifying his lead, mississippi is a real target of opportunity for him. mississippi is a place that rick santorum won 83% evangelical voters, and he should be able to do well there. the problem for him is that trump steals his evangelical voters. they split them. and also there's a lot of blue collar working class people that trump does very well with. it's kind of a test, i think, of cruz's strength. he's been very well organized in the south.
michigan, another important state to watch. michigan got a lot of catholic voters, blue collar. that should be good for john kasich and it sort of shows you how well he might be able to do in the other midwestern states, including his home state. >> it looks like we're looking at two scenarios. either trump pulls away and gets the delegates or this goes to the convention. those seem to be the only two options. >> we're all rooting for the convention scenario. look. i think -- >> a lot of fun to cover. at a tipping point in the race. the calendar was designed for this to be the moment for the voting on the 15th to be the moment when the republicans pick their nominee, right? in 2012, it was -- the process went on a little too long. reince priebus, the republican national committee designed this calendar to be put away by the 15th. so, whoops. doesn't look like so. cruz has had everyone sort of
take a deep breath and say, wait a second. this isn't over yet. he needs to solidify that momentum going into the next two -- into the next two tuesdays or trump is going to win this. >> we've seen in nevada, those who are voting earlier, voting for trump benefited rubio. does that still hold, or are late-breaking people kind of going for cruz? and do we have a sense yet of these ads which are now running in florida against trump, you know, veterans speaking out, others speaking out. do we know any impact? >> florida -- getting a little ahead of ourselves, but florida is the most interesting. ten media markets. most complex and the hardest state to win. it is rubio's last stand. he has to win that state or he's gone from the race. no argument if he doesn't win his home state. that's going to be a total slugfest. the reason ted cruz is going in there in addition to donald trump is he knows if rubio wins, then we've got total chaos and rubio has a chance again.
he'll still be mathematically in the ditch but he'll have a chance. ted cruz is trying to make sure even if trump wins, cruz would like to win, but cruz would prefer trump wins florida to rubio and hope to get him down the line. the math for everybody gets nuts. i would say this is chaotic, unpredc unpreductable. chapters four, five and six, let them stay in chapter three which is number one tomorrow. there's evidence in some new polling in the last couple of days of the poll, trump is not as strong. if you look at the margins in kentucky and louisiana -- i'm sorry, louisiana, cruz definitely close at the end. so there are some signs that a weakness of trump. let's see what happens tomorrow. every candidate falls down. barack obama fell down. bill clinton fell down. ronald reagan had some stumbles. every candidate has a stumble. let's see if he can recover. >> do you think there will be a stumble? people have been predicting a trump stumble for, i can't even remember how long. >> i've been predicting it and
i've been so wrong that i'm not going to predict a stumble and hope that he does stumble. i think what happened before the next immediate race really has an effect on what happens in the next immediate race. i think saturday's results are going to have an effect on tomorrow's results. i think our debate on thursday will have an effect on the tuesday race in florida and ohio. i think people are really paying attention. and it's not holding -- some of the numbers are not holding. in florida, for example, something like 19%, 20% of republicans have already voted. we love absentee voting. we love early voting. and rubio is leading trump by 20 points in the early absentee ballot vote. in florida, for all the reasons john just said, organization really matters. i am a florida super voter. only candidate, only campaign that has contacted me is marco rubio. >> and she raises an interesting point about donald trump's
organization. he watches television to get a lot of opinions. he -- to get poll numbers and stuff. they don't even employ a pollster. >> a lot of his organization has been dependent upon creating this enormous buzz, winning the media, blocking out so much of the other media opportunities for the other campaigns. therefore, he becomes the story. he seems to be the only candidate talking to voters. and he has, of course, brought about a great deal of enthusiasm for a lot of voters that may have not voted in republican primaries before to come out and support him. the big question for tomorrow night is, did the cavalry show up on time. were they here just in time to slow the momentum of donald trump toward an inevitable march toward 1,237 delegates, or has this concentrated firepower of outside organizations and all the other campaigns ti s turnin their sights on donald trump slowed him down to point b which is to get to a contested convention looks more likely. >> and idaho votes tomorrow.
places where mitt romney had a lot of influence. >> we're going to take a -- >> do you think mitt romney's speech had an effect? >> why don't you answer that after the break. we'll have more from donna and jeffrey lord. we're going to take a quick break. more on the democratic side. senator sanders speaking in ann arbor, michigan. and why the cry at so many trump rallies seems to be, get him out of here. the candidate who seems to revel in it all. for a limited time, you can get a
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big night after a big day on the campaign trail. donald trump, hillary clinton, marco rubio, bernie sanders all holding events tonight in advance of tomorrow's voting. bloomberg saying trump has run the most demagogic panel he's ever seen. donna brazile, were you surprised bloomberg didn't enter the race? >> no. given the amount of time, the amount of organization you need and also the fact that this race is in somewhat of a chaotic period. on the republican side as you all know, they are caught between a rock and a hard place. if mr. rubio or mr. cruz are out then they have the hard place of trying to stop a candidate who
clearly has a lot of ground support, although he doesn't have a ground organization. michael bloomberg, i believe, made the smart decision not to throw his hat in the ring at a time when there's probably a couple of hats that need to come out of the race. >> jeffrey lord, in florida, a week is a long time in politics. rubio is right now last poll shows eight points behind. are you concerned at all about trump given the ads now being put out on television there? >> no, no, i'm not. i honestly don't think these kind of ads hurt donald trump. i think he's such a familiar figure of american culture that if you are going to be anti-trump, you aren't going to be persuaded to be anything other than -- i mean by these ads. if you are pro-trump, you aren't budging. i don't think so. there's one thing i'd say. this just popped a few minutes ago. i just can't imagine this. it's a story the huffington post and the headline says secretive
meeting, tech ceos and top republicans commiserate plot to stop trump. it involves karl rove, members of the house, senate, mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. i can only tell you this kind of thing will really fuel, you know, the trump campaign if that gets put out there and widespread. this is exactly the kind of thing people think is going on. and here is aparentally a documented report that happened in early march. not a good thing if you are trying to stop trump. >> john, this latest monmouth university poll shows trump with a big lead in michigan. how important would a win be there for him? >> it would be huge, to borrow his favorite word. he's coming out of a tough weekend where he did win two of the four states but ted cruz clearly put himself back into the chase and sent a message. if trump can -- if he can win mississippi and michigan, he's saying, senator, beat you again in the south with evangelicals and in michigan. michigan is important because
it's the biggest prize. you are in a different part of the country. in a state if donald trump can win convincingly, he's also sending a message to democrats and republicans. i'm okay. i'm back in the game. i have my momentum back but sending a message to democrats that if i'm a nominee, i'm going to change the map. i'm going to compete in michigan, illinois, pennsylvania, and you'll have a very different general election. >> ted cruz, i was listening to him talk today. he clearly wants to get rubio out of the race. he clearly is not on board with this idea of everybody winning a little something and just seeing what happens at the convention. >> that's right. the mitt romney strategy. >> look. this is cruz's moment. tomorrow is the moment for cruz to solidify the victories and delegate surge that he got this weekend. or trump is going to run away with this thing. you have to stop trump now before you get into the winner take-all states like ohio. >> if it does boil down to cruz
and trump, how viable is cruz in states where evangelicals are not a big proportion of the electorate. >> in michigan, which is coming right up tomorrow, in michigan you have about a 40% evangelical voter base. and santorum came in a close second. mitt romney was supposed to run away with michigan. he didn't. but there was a lot of support there. the populist message plays really well in the industrial midwest. and that's trump's message right now. i think on election night, on saturday, we saw cruz take a turn to a more populist message. he was talking about middle class, you know, you haven't had a raise. i think we're going to hear more of that from cruz as he heads into the -- >> we've got to -- we'll have plenty more with our panel. plenty more to talk about. a big day tomorrow. the second big tuesday of the primary campaign. remember when there used to just
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implication that only african-americans live in poverty. today sanders is clarifying what he meant. jeff zeleny joins me from detroit with the latest. some controversial words there from sanders last night. got a lot of attention. what did he say to push back? >> well, anderson, he sought to clarify his remark. his aides said, look, bernie sanders is not racist. he meant nothing by this. one aide told me this is a product of his generation. he's from brooklyn. he was using that term ghetto, and it was not meant to be offensive. but he sought to explain it today when asked by reporters. let's listen. >> what i meant to say is when you talk about ghetto traditionally what you are talking about is african-american communities. there's nobody on this campaign, occasionally you might want to write about it or mention it. nobody on this campaign has talked about poverty whether it's in the white community, black community, latino community, more than i have. we have 47 million people living in poverty in america.
in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, that's a disgrace. absolutely. i've talked about that issue more than anybody else. what i meant by that is i think many white people are not aware of the kinds of pressures and the kind of police oppression that sometimes takes place within the african-american community. so you have in the african-american communities, you have police officers abusing people. and that is the point that i tried to make. but i don't want to be lectured about talking about poverty whether it's white, black or latino. nobody in this campaign has talked about it more n nobody in this campaign psyche whole has proposed more specific ideas on how to address poverty. >> now interesting he says he doesn't want to be lectured about talking about poverty. and he does talk about poverty more than most other presidential candidates we cover out here. still regardless of that, not an artful way to explain this.
>> and hillary clinton and bernie sanders also got heat at the debate over the auto bailout. how has that played out today? >> this has been an aggressive point of discussion throughout the day. before sun-up there was a radio ad cut from the debate last night of the clinton campaign just continuing the argument here about how senator sanders was against the auto bailout. it's a little more complicated. he supported one version of it in the senate. in a broader version of a bill that included some bank bailouts, he did not support it. a little senate nuance injected into this presidential campaign. look at how their back and forth went on this issue. >> i voted to save the auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto industry. i think that is a pretty big difference. >> well, i -- if you are talking about the wall street bailout, where some of your friends
destroyed this economy -- >> you know -- >> excuse me. i'm talking. >> and just a short time ago, the sanders campaign is releasing a radio ad calling this dishonest politics. a full day has played out here. and the clinton campaign has been driving this issue here. it's a big issue here in michigan. >> another big argument they had was about guns last night baseod a question we asked. the nra today expressed their support for a position sanders took during the debate when it comes to gun manufacturers being held liable for the products they sell. >> they did. a bit unusual for the nra to be weighing in on the democratic side of this presidential debate. they tweeted their support for senator sanders' position that's gun manufacturers shouldn't be liable. let's look at one of these tweets that said senator sanders was spot on in his comments about gun manufacturers' liability. and then they followed that up by saying, now, the point is they are equally bad on guns. but even bernie sanders knows that hillary clinton is lying about the liability issue here.
so this is a central issue that the clinton campaign has been pushing, the difference between senator sanders and her on guns. now they certainly agree more than republicans would gragree with democrats. senator sanders says, look, he does not believe that gun manufacturers should be held liable here. guns is a big issue to women voters, a big issue for suburban and urban voters as well. so all in all, senator sanders was back on his heels on the eve of this michigan primary. >> jeff zeleny, thanks. back with the panel, also joining the conversation is former obama administration official van jones. since you are just joining us, what do you think of sanders' comments about the ghetto. >> you want to know why people don't want to talk about race? that's why. because it doesn't matter. you make one little wrong move and your whole history may not matter that much. i think he's of that generation where that word does not mean the same thing it means to my generation. you'd never say in my generation
ghetto unless you are a rapper. it's not the right word. but, look, here's reality. i think that you got a guy who got arrested in the civil rights movement, stuck up for reverend jesse jackson. his track record is strong. he stepped on a banana peel. if there's a mistake he made, he conflates in his mind race and poverty. you heard him say. don't lecture me about poverty. we didn't ask you about poverty. we asked you about race. there are middle class african-americans like myself who have experience of racial discrimination. he doesn't talk about that. so because he does do that conflation, a race and poverty almost every time, he's getting himself into trouble. but charge it to his head, not his heart. no doubt this guy cares about these issues. >> but certainly, donna, for a candidate who needs to do better with african-american voters, this is the last thing he really needed to have happen. >> i agree with 100% of what van just talked about in terms of referring to the ghetto. we don't do that no more.
unless you listen to donny hathaway, and it's a wonderful soundtrack. there are poor whites in this country. often they are ignored and overlooked because white people aren't comfortable about talking about what's happening with poor whites. you visited the ninth ward. st. bernard parish, wiped out and nobody focusod that because nobody want to focus on white people living in a trailer. so talk about class, talk about race but understand the nuances. this is about hope and opportunity. and too many of our fellows is the, be it black or white or hispanic or others live on the outskirts of hope. unless you're able to talk about that in a broad sense, then it's like you're back in that 1960 mind-set where you're penciling ot this one and that one. this is an era of the head, not the heart. >> sanders' supporters see this as the clinton campaign trying to push any issue forward on
this day to kind of continue this conversation because any of this conversation hurts sanders. >> particularly on the issue of the bailout. you know, the detroit bailout. i didn't know where that came from when i was listening to the debate. what? bernie sanders voted -- and they are smart. they put it in their back pocket because it was part of a larger bill he opposed which was a bail out for wall street. and they were ready to pounce in michigan on detroit. that's a good campaign. it's cherry picking. and the sanders campaign would say it's deceitful, very nuanced. >> when you say things -- the sanders campaign, they are mad. she took what he said and made a radio ad again. okay. if she said something they could make a radio ad again, they would do it. if you distort his words, you have a right to be mad. if you are using his words. i agree with these guys and they are much more qualified to speak of it. he's from vermont. he doesn't have the history.
he doesn't have the history in his community so his language is wrong. >> the age. >> there are african-american voters in mississippi tomorrow. he needs to prove himself in the industrial midwest tomorrow and the timing is not good. >> and the sanders campaign has been playing tough against the clinton campaign. he tweeted out pictures of burned out houses in detroit and said this is what hillary clinton's trade policies have done essentially. >> two things. one on his slip-up there, it overshadows a lot of work that bernie sanders has done to try and reach into the african-american community. i had a prominent democrat i was talking to today say hillary clinton and bernie sanders are talking about institutional racism. talking about issues important to african-americans in this campaign in a way this person was arguing has not been done, even in the hillary/obama race of 2008. and that's how far both candidates have moved. if hillary clinton wins, she will win because of the african-american vote. and this race has proved the um portance of the african-american
vote to the democrats more than any primary we've seen. >> we've talked about this before. i think it's a very good thing. and you have to give credit to some of those young people in the black lives matter movement which people have -- that's such a shocking statement to make and it's become controversial. but the pain they were pointing to and feeling we are getting picked on. we don't get treated the same way by police. we want our lives to matter. that's landed in the democratic party. you have both candidates taking those concerns. do they get the policy right every time and words right every time? >> we'll have more with our panel in a moment. tune in when clinton and sanders face off on the debate stage this week. t cnn will air the univision democratic debate on wednesday. he's trailing in the polls but only by about eight percentage points, can rubio close that gap?
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he's still trailing in the polls. the sun sentinel, one of florida's leading papers, doesn't see him as a favorite sun. the editorial board writes because rubio has failed to do his job as a senator, we cannot endorse him for president. the paper which decided not to endorse any of the republican candidates was equally harsh about the rest of the gop field. a lot to discuss. back wither panel. ana, what do you make of rubio's chances in florida? >> i would not underestimate him. i think what his campaign is saying is true. let me just say that i think, you know, marco is in through florida absolutely 100%. it would be ridiculous for him to -- >> there was an earlier report saying he was -- the campaign has pushed back hard on that and said there's no evidence of that. >> and marco sent me a text message not too long ago saying that not only is that not true but the opposite is true. he is absolutely commits to florida. >> it wouldn't make any sense as
far as i'm concerned for him -- he's come this far. to not carry it through in florida. >> and, look, i think everybody understands it's for all the marbles. he's going to lay it all there. he's not going to -- he's not in ohio. he's not in other places. he is sticking to florida like if it was a statewide campaign, not a national campaign. he is very able. he's got very good people in florida. they know ground operation in florida. in florida, the get out the vote effort is incredibly important. i don't think it's a coincidence that donald trump who, yes, we all know is very rich but is also very cheap in actually spending money in florida against marco rubio. you take out marco rubio in florida, and that's also why ted cruz is playing in florida. you have knocked him out. marco rubio is not going to be -- >> campaigns get too cute with playing the expectations game. it's great they're embracing these expectations. a lot of that sout of necessity. it has an incredibly motivating
effect, not only on the cand daut. i think marco rubio's message has been so crystallized in the left few days but an incredible motivating effect on so many supporters and an effect on the ground in florida. it is a state he has to win. >> florida has disappointed so many people in the past. >> let's just remember you're going there in three days. be nice to us. and it's 80 degrees. >> as you can tell, i need a tan. if you go from that stretch from leon county to duval county, i know a little about organizing. donald trump will probably do very well in the upper region of florida. marco rubio has to get that i-4 corridor from orlando down to miami. he has to maximize his support in order to win. ted cruz on the other hand, i'm sure going to make a play in the upper region going back to leon county. you know all of those counties. this is going to be a very interesting race. donald trump comes into every
contest ahead and then slips the day of because he has no organization to get his people out. >> i fully expect ted cruz to be in florida a lot in the next week. i suspect he's going to be ordering and pulling out every cuban word he knows from his arsenal. a lot of cuban american voters. it's going to be very important for marco. and he's going to be reminding everyone there's two cuban americans in this race. >> jeffrey lord, as a trump supporter, don't you wish your candidate had more of an organization? he's gotten a lot of -- because he does so many interviews and is willing to show up at the opening of an envelope, he gets a lot of attention, these huge crowds. do you wish he had more depth in an organization? >> in iowa, i do. i think he's getting a lot better at it. but i have to say, what applied to ted cruz in texas applies to marco rubio in florida and john kasich in ohio. if you can't winni your own hom state, you have a problem much
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has the right to do this. >> what do you think that he wants to get people out of here -- >> i loved his comment. back in the old days you could fight and punch them right in the news and carry it out on a stretcher. that's fine with me. >> bye-bye. good job, fellas. >> like to punch him in the face. i'll tell you. >> reporter: other presidential candidates have people kicked out of their rallies, too. but the trump campaign takes it to a whole new level. and the real estate mogul who says he'll be a unifier as president seems to revel in egging at his supporters who boo and cheer those getting the heave-ho. >> if you see someone getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? >> trump is a leader. he can do what he wants. >> reporter: there are many people who find it rather unlikely that donald trump will ever be a unifier. but in a sense he's already proven he is. at this rally and many others, he has unified the majority of people who love him against the
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welcome back. we're just hours until another big day in a primary race that appears to be tightening in both parties. a weekend of split decisions in the polls. contentuous cnn debate in flint and donald trump and ted cruz trying to shove marco rubio out of the ross. on the democratic side, some damage control with african-american voters by bernie sanders. there's that, michael bloomberg saying he'll stay out of the race and more. a lot to talk about. jason carroll starts us off with the republicans tonight. >> who is going to win north carolina? >> reporter: double trump's confidence on full display today. campaigning in north carolina. his primary is still more than a week away. the gop front-runner running strong in tomorrow's big super tuesday prize, michigan. >> i've been to michigan a lot. and i think we're going to do well there.