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and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. it may be the single most decisive day yet. the next hours decide who goes onto the white house and who simply goes home. john kasich must win his home state in order to keep his campaign alive. marco rubio faces the same make or break test today. and democrat bernie sanders is hoping for another shocking upset in the mid west just like last week. as voters go to the polls in illinois. donald trump goes for the kill. if he wins ohio in florida the nomination appears all but locked down. it is super tuesday three. but the numbers that really matter today.
five states, more than a thousand delegates up for grabs. our reporter, analysts and experts are scattered across today's battle ground states and covering every single angle for you. cnn's boris sanchez is just outside orlando in winter park. hi boris. >> reporter: good morning carol. this could be the last stand for marco rubio and his campaign. not only do the delegates represent keeping his campaign afloat but also represents a buffer against donald trump going to the convention as the presumptive nominee. i can tell you so far voters i've spoken to here at this precinct are not for donald trump. central florida is supposed to be a stronghold for trump but only two voters tell me they are in his corner. despite that about 40% of voters here in winter park have already cast their battle ballots through early voting.
>> bourse sanchez reporting. hillary clinton is expected to continue running the table in the south and polls show trump is favored among the republicans in north carolina. >> reporter: this will perhaps be one of the last opportunities for the republicans to stop trump. on the democratic side hillary clinton expected to do very well here in the tar heel state. and african american voters make a large portion of the democratic electorate here in charlotte. we continue to see what i would describe as the steady flow of people that have been coming in to cast their ballots here in charlotte. we've seen significantly larger numbers according to some of the latest information coming from the state election board. and early voting and absentee voting has already been higher than 2008 and '12 carol all feeting into the excitement here. >> thank you. now let's go.
at stake the momentum of donald trump. >> reporter: a series of structural advantages. opportunity to really try and close the deal on his first vector of this race, still even kasich's aides acknowledging this is largely a toss up. donald trump going all in over the last four or five days. kasich versus trump to decide whether or not kasich stays in the race and potentially whether anybody else will have a chance after anybody else is done with this state. >> live from columbus.
so as you heard him say it is a make ore break day for governor kasich in his home state. ohio is a critical primary. donald trump knows that. if kasich wins that slows trump's path to the gop nomination. that's why the front runner is on an all out blitz against kasich. >> ohio is going make america great again. kasich cannot make america great again. can't do it. go home. get some sleep. go out tomorrow and get some voting in. >> the logic says kasich should win his home state. he has a high approval rating and support of backers like mitt
romney for example. he's also been endorsed by the last five football coaches. let's talk about with this republican strategist and more. welcome to all of you. good morning. >> good morning. matt, i should start with you. ohio. most important state today? >> it always is in the fall. we always know whoever wins ohio will go to the white house. and because we want to pick the candidate that can help us win in the fall, the person who's going help us win ohio is the person who's going to win ohio today, john kasich. he wins here and it sets the race on a completely different course. >> but adam is a toss up in the state of ohio. and like i said, logic says that john kasich ought to win.
he's got a 72% approval rating in the state of ohio. he's got endorsements from everyone who's important in the state of ohio. why is it a toss up there? >> it is a toss up because this whole election carol this year has been about the outside versus the inside. and right now on both sides of the aisle with both sanders and trump the outsiders are on the rise and the insiders on defense and kasich has to take an a made for television candidate in trump that changes the odds overnight. last thing that's significant here carol. about two weeks a lot of decisions were made about where to put antitrump pac dollars and tv ads. 18 million or so has been run to this moment in florida where it looks like rubio is going to be on his last legs as opposed to an even greater concentration which could have been sent to ohio. which in a closer election if
donald trump pulls out tonight, the outside may have learned another lesson in resource allocation. >> donald trump is fatsing a critical election in the state of ohio. yet ben carson was on news max tv and said in an interview, even if trump is a bust as president, it will only be four years. let's listen. >> in you are not a trump supporter right now, you also have to put some faith in the founding fathers and the checks
and balances and system and that it's supposed to work. and mr. trump works on one hand and the dock congress on the ot. so it is not the end of the world as we know itky assure you that the checks and balances system and maybe this might be the catalyst to get our do nothing congress to actually do something by putting someone like mr. trump in the white house to motivate to start doing their job. >> scotty might have a point here. blue collar democrats have been frustrated because democrat policies have not worked for them. a lot have changing their affiliation and voting republican to vote for mr. trump. why? >> well one of the things i'm hearing that's actually kind of disturbing me is this notion that somehow there will be checks and balances. the things that's kept us over
the last six years from having the full effects of barack obama. unfortunately donald trump on the ticket in november imperils republicans across the board. so we don't want to have that situation and empower democrats even more. make those policies even worse on coal country in ohio and elsewhere. john kasich helped bring 400,000 jobs back to ohio. cutting taxes. balancing budgets. exactly what we need for washington. so we need someone who can actually win here and he'll win today in the primary and that will help him go onto the nomination and eventually win in november. >> go ahead scott. >> carol let me point out something. the numbers don't lie in chicago just like shakira's hips. actually since john kasich signed nafta more than 300 thousand jobs have left ohio. as governor with the tpp agreement that he agrees for.
more than 112,000 jobs have left ohio and gone to these tpp trade countries. so to say that john kasich is a pro jobs governor is ridiculous when his own state right now the reason why he is not overwhelmingly winning is because he has sold out his own members and shipped jobs out of the state. >> ohio's economy is doing well. but i think think something that people miss about especially blue collar democrats. blue collar democrats are socially conservative. they don't like the idea of gay marriage or abortion. so that is something else that might appeal to them. especially on the democratic side. and i would say what appeals to them on donald trump's side is even though the economy is booming in ohio, and it is doing better. wages aren't growing. wages aren't growing. especially for those who hold
manufacturing jobs. and john kasich can't escape that fact, can he adam? >> carol, no. not really. but can i make a point about republicans on behalf of all republicans? at the end of the day, the thing carol that's going to unite us -- and disagree with matt. the thing that is going to unite us at the end is most likely hillary clinton and something that was unexpected which was the death of the judge scalia and control of the supreme court you might say. at the end of the day republicans is going to rally around their own and if it's donald trump we're going to be there for him. and i think anyone that tries carol to predict how a donald trump, hillary clinton square off is going to turn out is wildly speculating. because we have no idea how that kind of confrontation will play out in an environment where people are upset with the system. they are angry. they have angst. they have impatience. they want things to change. and if it is donald trump, i
think this country, as well as this party will be treated to one of the most important civic debates in many years. >> all right. i have to leave it there. adam goodman. matt borges. thanks all of you. super tuesday part three. and still to come, bernie sanders looking for another super tuesday surprise. (avo) how much protein does your dog food have? 18%? 20? nutrient-dense purina one true instinct with real turkey and venison has 30% protein. support your active dog's whole body health with purina one.
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when you break down the numbers the stakes could not be higher. christine romans is sizing up what's for grabs. good morning. >> a very big morning. call it one america, two economies. 4.9% jobless rate. gas prices are low. but in the state's voting today, especially what we used to call the rust belt states, the focus
is on closed factory, stagnant wages and declining opportunity for anyone without a college degree. illinois. it has the highest jobless rate, 69 delgates at stake. 156 for the democrats. florida, a diverse state. tourism hub. lowest household income of the voting states today. 99 gop delegates there. florida is critical. head to north carolina and ohio. and truly the common considerate is a pop yoouls revolt against trade deals. p pop. >> it is here in ohio that
bernie sanders, his antitrade deal message. donald trump's promise to tax companies that outsource jobs to china and mexico. that is resonating here. america's workers are crushed. these trade deals are bad. he'll bring manufacturing jobs back and this is what he writes. one of the first casualties of the tp will be america's auto industry. and one of the worst victims of the pact will be the people of ohio. governor john kasich, senator cruz, marco rubio, they have all promoted the tpp a mortal threat to american manufacturing. he has really sharpened his tone and his words on this and ramped it up on a day that is incredibly important. ohio will be critical today. >> christine romans, many thanks. because it is still the economy, stupid. and here is why. i'm from the state of ohio. my father was a steel work who are dropped out of high school so he could defend his country.
and according to the "new york times" in 1987 the average wage for an auto maker was 13.50. today that would be 28.90 an hour. in 2014 an entry level employee made between $14 and 17 an hour. that is why ohio voters made offense to clintons comments. >> using clean renewable energy as the key into the coal country. because we're going put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business. >> you know clean air doesn't cut it when you are not making the money you think you should and jobs are disappearing. it is why bernie sanders message on trade is resonating. because middle class ohio workers believe their jobs are now in mexico or china or even
japan. with me, david gergen and robin kelly. welcome both of you. so david, that comment by clinton, i know she didn't mean that it way but it was damaging, wasn't it? >> it was indeed. this is a very, very sore point in so many states in the -- like west virginia and ohio and others. and i think she could have presented it a very different way. but i do think it is going to cut and hurt her. she still has about an eight point lead in ohio according to the latest polls but after michigan and the upset sanders pulled there when he was 20 points back virtually on the night before nobody knows for sure which way ohio is going to go today. >> bernie sanders message on trade is resonating. is it possible that she could lose the state of ohio? >> well i'm not going to predict. and of course anything is possible. but she is up by 8% and i think
if people really looked at what she said that it wasn't that people were not going to ever have jobs that we need to retrain people and give people other skills so they can take the jobs of the future. >> and i want to stick on that for a second because i think you have hit on something. the old manufacturing jobs. even if we kill all of the trade pacts they probably would not come back to the state of ohio. but highly skilled manufacturing work is already available in the state of ohio and i'm sure in the state of illinois but workers aren't trained properly. am i right about that? >> definitely right. because even in my district, the second congressional district we have a lot of manufacturing, and i hear the same thing over and over when i visit with them that they can't find enough skilled people to take the job because there is advanced manufacturing and technology. so we actually need to look at skilling up our population. >> so david, why aren't these democratic candidates talking
about about that? why is bernie sanders only talking about killing trade deals? >> that is a very good question, carol. i thought this for a long time and i that this debate hasn't really settle on the jobs of the future and how to create those jobs. the only way we're going to get there is to train far more people for skills and get the vocational learning back to understand that not everybody has to go to college in order to get a good job and that really good jobs can often come to go to two years community college and go to a vocational skills school. there are a lot of jobs in computer sciences and elsewhere that pay well. but we haven't -- this campaign has been about so many things other than jobs. and other than solutions. we haven't had real economic debates. now hillary clinton to her credit has put forward a comprehensive plan. more comprehensive than donald trump's. but one day they are going to have join the debate so the republicans and democrats are squaring off.
this is about a lot more than trade. >> you are absolutely right and i hope that we talk about issues after super tuesday three is finally over. but for now we have to talk manufactumore about the game. congresswoman kelly. if clinton loses ohio and missouri, she's still delegate rich. so she'll probably still win the nomination. am i correct about that congresswoman? >> i still think so. she's delegate rich now and i don't think she'll lose all of those states. but even if she does i still think she's this good shape. >> still david, if she loses those state os or virtually ties bernard let's say, it would be an embarrassment, wouldn't it? >> well there are five big states here. and it was widely assumed she would probably take all five. now she's solidly ahead in florida and north carolina. but ohio seems to be in play. illinois is very much in play.
bernie sanders nipping at her heels there. and in missouri sanders has actually got a tiny little lead and there have been sort of quirky voting. he won oklahoma. >> i have to leave it there. thanks for joining me. still to come, super tuesday is all about survival. up next florida governor rick scott weighs in on today's critical contest. is room is ready, ya know what he becomes? client: great proposal! let's talk more over golf. craig: great. client: how about over tennis craig: even better. avo: a game changer! avo: the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com.
>> -- all the thuggery stuff that's been going on with these quote/unquote protesters, who are doing nothing but wasting your time and trying to take away your first amendment rights, your rights to assemble peacefully. >> stephanie elam is covering ule things palin for us today. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. yes, she had time to make that stop there in tampa. but she did not continue on to stump for trump as she was supposed to go to another place
in florida and then ohio. she didn't because she had to get back to alaska to be with her husband. he had the accident sunday night. he's in intensive care. sarah palin putting up on facebook herself he's undergoing surgery. broken ribs, a clavicle. lots of injuries he sustained there. here is what she had to say. >> my husband was out snow machining and thank you guys for your prayers for my husband, who is recovering right now in icu after a little wreck on a snow machine. so thank you. big wreck. thank you. >> yeah i think big wreck would be the way to go here. now she also posted on facebook here saying knowing todd he'll probably ask docs to duct tape him up and call it good.
and of course people going what the heck is a snow machine. in alaska that is a snow mobile. what us contiguous folks would call it. >> i asked myself that this morning. many thanks stephanie. and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. we're about two and a half hours into voting for florida. for senator rubio today's primary is a make or break moment. it means surviving to see another day, and losing could mean the end of the road. in miami this morning live. >> reporter: good morning carol. it is make or break time. the winner take awl primary here in the state. and it is marco rubio where he needs to prove himself. we're in the center of the county he's got to win, miami dade. just two and a half hours into
voting. it's been a bit slow but looks are deceiving. if you look at the early votes, those turned in by mail, well the turnout here in this county has been more than expected. so rubio is expected to do quite well here in this county. but then if you look at what's happening further north. that's where you get a bit of a different story. the counties up north are a bit more antiestablishment. those counties did not turn out in 2012. they are turning out this time around in early voting. those counties expected carol to go to trump. carol? >> kyung spalah live from miami. thank you. with me now rick scott florida's governor. welcome sir. >> good morning. everyone's going out to vote. big increase in absentee and early voting and it's a big day
and as you know florida decides the nation. how florida goes generally that is where the nation is going to go. >> i think ohio might argue with you but i know you are a floridian so i know you understand. >> i represent florida. >> -- >> i did. absentee ballot. my wife did hearse about the same time. so it is exciting. i just got off the phone with the secretary of state's office. to reports of fraud or irregularities. i'll be monitoring the race all day long. and it is going to be an exciting day. >> i asked if you cast your vote because you haven't endorsed anyone on the republican side and i wondered why? >> go back to 2010. i was a business person never having run for office again. i was the outsider. the republican establishment had picked their candidate. they wanted me to get out of the race. they called on me from d.c. and around the state. i stayed in it. i relied on the voters. i'm doing the same thing this
year. 50i78 going to wait and watch what the voters decide. i think the race is going to come down to who voters believe about jobs. >> you just described donald trump. so did you cast your ballot for him? >> well, if i'm -- if i'm not going to announce my endorsement, i'm not going to announce how i voted. but i trust the voters in 2010. and i'm going to trust the voters this year. i think it is going to come down to who do they believe is going to help our country get back to work. >> i'm just curious as to why you are not endorsing anyone this time around? >> i went back -- go back to 2010. i watched this. i watched the establishment say they wanted to pick their candidate. i was not teheir candidate. i relied on voters. i really believe that is the right approach for me and i trust voters they are going to make a good decision. >> so you don't want to influence voters then is this is that the reason? you don't want to influence the
voters and you want them to vote for whoever they wish? >> i trust them. i trust them in 2010, in 2014. i've never been the establishment candidate. i guess i was when i ran for reelection but i clearly wasn't in 2010 and excited voters. it is still a big issue in our state, jobs, and i know a bigger issue around the country. >> you know that the polls show on the republican side that donald trump is probably going to win florida. he leads in most polls out there. and of course the antitrump people are really pushing back. in fact they released an antitrump super pac ad that is running on television today and i'd like you to listen
to it. >> you know it really doesn't matter what they write, as long as you have got a young and beautiful piece of [ bleep ]. >> that must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees. >> there was blood coming off oher eyes.
blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> women, you have to treat them like [ bleep ]. >> so it is a series of women saying things that trump said about women in the past. do you think the ad is effective? >> i haven't seen that ad. i know when i ran in 2010 i still think the issue is going to come down to who people believe is going to help people get work. that is the issue. that is the biggest issue. >> you are saying that the voters in florida and much of the country don't much care what donald trump says about women, they care more about their paychecks? >> oh i think it is important what you say about everybody. you
know when i ran i tried to make sure i got every vote. i traveled the entire state. >> if it's important what candidates say, do you think this would hurt donald trump? or do you think as the waste of
time? >> carol, i haven't seen that ad. i just still think that if you listen to people -- >> i'm sure you have heard some of the things donald trump said about women. why don't you want to say anything about donald trump at all? i don't get it. >> well, i believe all the candidates ought to be respectful of everybody. i think they ought to talk about the issues they care about and the state it is jobs. keep people safe. that is what i would do. and that is what i did when i ran in 2010 and 14. i don't know why the candidates do what they do. >> -- keep everyone safe, then i'm going to ask you about the violence at trump rallies. do you think he's been responsible with his rhetoric? >> i had protesters in some of my events both in 2010 and 2014. everybody handles protesters differently. i was not at those events so i couldn't tell you how -- >> i'm sure you have seen those
events on television unless you have been living in a cave, governor? >> the approach that i take when people have protested me i listen to them and i let them have their time. everybody does it differently though. everybody handles -- >> is donald trump doing it correctly? >> well that is how donald trump handles it. and he can respond to how he handles it. i know how i handle it -- >> is it right or wrong? >> well he's going to decide that and what's right for him. every candidate is a little bit different. >> gotcha. governor rick scott, thank you so much for joining me this morning. >> have a good day. >> thanks. russia moving out of syria. why they are making the move and what it means for peace talks, next. the detail on this surface book is amazing. with the tiger image, the saliva coming off and you got this turning. that's why i need this kind of resolution and computing power.
this follows several ballistic missile tests by iran last week. this could signal an advantage in long range missile technology and admits they could soon have missiles capable of hitting israel. iran says it is allowed to conduct tests for national defense. russian forces now leaving syria. the surprise withdraw as vladimir putin says their mission there that is been accomplished. could be a game change for are peace talks in geneva. more now live from moscow. hi matthew. >> reporter: it really was a shocker wasn't it. classic putin. unexpect. totally unpredictable. he announced last night this was essentially over, they achieved their main goals in syria. and already the first russian war planes that have been carrying out air strikes in syria have started to make their way back to their permanent
bases inside russia state television has been broadcasting images of crowds of people greeting the pilots. pilots given flowers and casting this very much as a victory. very much as you say mission accomplished. from the air and the sea, russia's bomb barmt of syria has been a game changer. this kind of overwhelming fire power reversing the military fortunes of the kremlin's arab ally bashar al assad. but now the kremlin says it's achieved its goals, with the russian president ordering a military withdraw unexpectly. >> translator: i believe the goals set out to the military defense and armed forces has in large part been fulfilled. that is why i order the minister of defense to start the pull out of our military grouping from
syria. >> reporter: the end of the campaign as app bankrupt as its start. >> this russian campaign in syria has been widely criticized for causing even more civilian casualties and pushing out even more refugees but for the kremlin it's been immensely successfully. saved an ally but also forced the war parties and their backers to the negotiating table. the leader is that fledgling peace process. and russia will he says intensify its peacemaking
efforts. but the kremlin stopped short of announcing a complete draw down. its powerful air and naval forces in syria will remain it says. and carol t russians are not ruling out continuing their air strikes. telling state media earlier today that the campaign of terrorist targets will continue. >> wait a minute, terrorist targets. i heard nothing about isis. they still occupy raqqah. so why continue the charade by talking about terrorists. >> the russians designate isis as terrorists. they will come under attack as they have been. but the big criticism of isis is they have been focusing not on isis or the al nuz ra front but
the opposition groups. they have had massive success against those groups. so russia has drawn a line now and making way for negotiations to bear some fruit. but obviously an imperfect victory of course that vladimir putin is declaring. >> matthew chance live from moscow this morning. still to come, parts of illinois sea record-breaking early voting. brian young live at a polling station in chicago next. >> reporter: a lot of early voters here just yesterday. if you look behind me now, almost 75 people have come in so far. we're here in chicago live with the reporting of people casting their votes. old helps relieve your worst cold & flu symptoms... you can give them everything you've got. tylenol®
heading to the polls. this year the state is allowing same day registration. at stake, 156 delegates for the democrats, 69 for republicans. we are live in chicago where we've seen record breaking early voting. hi, ryan. >> good morning, carol. you know what? you talk about the early voting. we were just here yesterday, and the line for early voting stretched down the street here. and so far that has had an effect on the voting today. early today we saw a little rush around 6:00 a.m. since then, steady but slow. about 65 people here at this center. we stopped two voters who ask them what brought you out? obviously a lot of people were talking about voting, the process. what inspired you to vote and be here today? >> there's a lot of different
opinions out there right now, and i want to be a part of voicing what i think is right. there's some thing that have me worried. >> we talked about that. who did you vote for and why did you feel comfortable voting for them? >> today i voted for bernie sanders. i think that there's an amazing discrepancy in what kind of trump stands for, and i want to make sure that i voice my opinion. >> reporter: and we talked about the idea that you actually were at the uic event and saw some of the things that happened in the chicago over the last week. what made you come out and also vote? >> very similarly, i was at the trump event. and it was fascinating and eye opening, to say the least. it was definitely, i feel like his rhetoric inspires a lot of violence, and i was actually the day before, i went to the trump event, i was at the weaner circle where they did the foot
long trump weaner that was only 3 inches long. and i felt like i can't trust a man who calls that a foot long, so i'm voting for bernie sanders. >> reporter: got you. some comedy there. thank you so much. i appreciate it. thank you for stopping. obviously, you see people are energized about this, especially in chicago with the talk about everything that happened, so there you go. the comment, people talking about weaners, only in america. love it. >> you were talking fast after that, ryan. you were. a little pg rated action here on news room. >> reporter: yes. >> i'll let you go recover, ryan. thanks a lot. next hour after a break. avo: when laquinta.com sends craig wilson a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what he becomes? client: great proposal! let's talk more over golf. craig: great. client: how about over tennis craig: even better. avo: a game changer! avo: the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com.
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part three and a critical clash in ohio. >> this is a place i want to win. this is the place -- >> we're going to win ohio. i feel very good. >> marco rubio fighting for florida. >> we're going to shock the country and do what needs to be done. >> ted cruz looking to add to his wins. >> only one campaign has beaten donald trump over and over and over again. >> can sanders pull off another super tuesday surprise? >> let's make sure that tomorrow we have a huge voter turnout. >> not can clinton can help it. >> join me in this mission. join me in making this come true. >> let's talk, live in the cnn news room. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. super tuesday. voting underway in five state in the south and in the midwest. here are some polling places
from missouri to florida on what may be the single most decisive day yet in this race. the next hours could decide who goes toward the white house and who goes home. also happening on this busy morning, bernie sanders is at a breakfast in chicago. he's hoping to repeat his michigan magic with another midwest upset over hillary clinton. we'll keep an eye on the sanders event and pass along anything noteworthy. more than 1,000 delegates at stake today. kasich and raubio may have to wn their home states to keep their campaigns alive. trump and cruz at the top of the pack and aiming to finish them off today. we are covering every angle. let's begin with chris frates in charlotte, north carolina. hi, chris. >> reporter: good morning, carol. 72 republicans, 107 democratic delegates at stake. not a lot of polling here in
north carolina. the polls we see show donald trump and hillary clinton with double digit leads over their competitors. that doesn't mean that others haven't been competing. they've been here throughout the week. bernie sanders just here yesterday outside charlotte with a big rally. ted cruz here last week. unlike ohio and florida which are winner take all, in north carolina it's proportional. if they can run up the score and try to front the runners, they don't have have to beat them and that is huge here. the other thing that's new here is a voter i.d. law. you have to bring an i.d. to be able to get. so far 700,000 votes cast early. so far it hasn't been a big problem. we've seen on college campuses because north carolina does not accept out of state i.d.s anymore, that some college students are having to vote provisional. whether or not that affects
bernie sanders, we'll have to watch and see tonight. another fun fact, senator richard bur, up for reelection here also had to vote provisional because he lost his license, but no problem there. voters go to the polls here until 7:30 tonight. let's go to ohio where democrats have been switching party so they can vote for the republican side. cnn's dan simon is near cleveland with more. hi, dan. >> reporter: good morning, carol. you can see some of the voters behind me. it's been sort of a steady trickle here. ohio we should point out, is an early voting state. perhaps that's why things are not jam packed inside this polling place. the main story line here is whether ohio voters who twice elected john kasich to statewide office will give his candidacy a lifeline.
i want to show you something. you alluded to it earlier. if you're a ohio voter, you can have a democratic or republican ballot. if you're a democrat and you want to vote for trump or kasich you can do that. i just spoke to a lifelong democrat. today he voted for donald trump. we're hearing the same kinds of things for people who also supported kasich. again, ohio is an early voting state. at this point, carol, the edge seems to be going to the republicans in terms of the ballots cast. it will be interesting to see if that trend continues here at the polling place. back to you. >> i think you're in a pretty upscale part of cleveland, i should say. i don't know if that matters, but just so our viewers know. dan simon reports live. thank you so much. now let's turn to florida where rubio may have to rally a win to keep can his presidential hopes alive. boris sanchez is with us. >> reporter: hi, carol.
it's do or die for rubio. his campaign has stacked all their chips on florida and the 99 delegates at stake here. florida is essentially divided by three. south florida with heavy support for rubio. the northern part of the state split between donald trump and the florida senator, and here, central florida, heavy for the billionaire businessman, donald trump expected to do very well in areas like here in winter park. they're very friendly toward the demographics that he's had success with. it's about 85% caucasian here in winter park. he's expected to do well. the people that i've spoken to in line, few of them are supporting trump. many of them have told me they're voting rubio. including one woman who says she's a lifelong republican soccer mom who supports john kasich, but she cast her ballot for rubio because she plooefs he has the best chance to stop donald trump. she says that should be the main focus of the republicans moving forward. >> all right. boris sanchez.
we understand john kasich just cast his ballot. i want to show you a picture of that. i assume he voted for himself. he just walked in. okay. he just walked in through that open door. that's why we can't see him. he's inside the polling station in westerville ohio. you see him there filling out his information. okay. all right. so you see john kasich voting. if he comes out the door and we have a microphone available, we'll take you back to westerville ohio which is right outside of columbus to see if john kasich makes any remarks. if you believe in polls. florida is in the bag for donald trump. that's likely by rubio sounded so bittersweet at his rallies in florida, telling the crowd i'll always be a son of this
community. then he talked about mr. trump. >> the rhetoric he continues to use is outrageous. he continues to tell the story about an american general who executed prisoners of war with bullets dipped in pig blood. it never happened. he's now saying he's going to pay the legal fees of the guy to sucker punched a protester. the rhetoric is irresponsible, and over the top. and i don't think it reflects well on our party or country. again i ask america, do we want to live in a country where everybody hates each other? >> that was rubio, and we're continuing to watch governor john kasich atwesterville, ohio. it is likely rubio will leave the race if he loses his home state of florida. let's focus on trump. he'll likely win florida, but ohio is up in the air. a lot of people say the convention is likely to be
contested if he doesn't win there. with me now, ben ferguson and amy kremmer who supports donald trump. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> as we watch kasich vote for himself, florida is aneck and neck. >> this is going to be a close one there. the question is how have voters reacted since thursday or friday last week. there are donald trump supporters who i think are more galvanized because of the tone in attacking bernie sanders and going toe to toe with the protesters. there are other people, though, that i've talked to that are saying i was leaning toward donald trump, but i just don't know if this is the direction that we need to be going in this type of rhetoric. i think that could cost him in ohio. kasich was a little bit behind there. and if john can come out and
make it clear to voters, look, i'm a statesman. i'm going to act presidential. i'm not going to act the other way donald trump is acting. it may end up costing him to election in that state. i think he's in really good shape in florida, but ultimately for people that want this to continue to move forward and not have donald trump as the nominee, it's all going to come down to ohio. this is where john kasich has to win, and i think he's got a pretty good shot at it. it'll be interesting to see who shows up today and how people vote. >> absolutely. on the other side of the coin, let's talk about mr. trump. sarah palin stumped for trump before rushing home to care for her injured husband. and as many of the local papers are pointing out, governor chris christie skipped a funeral of a new jersey state trooper to ask trump a series of questions. let's listen. >> you've talked a lot at recent rallies about how you want to unify the country and how
divided the country is now by this president and how you want to unify them. i think people would love to hear about that. >> the country is so divided. it's incredible. it's sad when you look. and even when you have some of the protesters, the level of anger from all sides, including the anger from our side. we're angry. now, we're not angry people. i'll tell you that. we're not angry people. we're good people. but there's a lot of anger. >> there's a lot of anger, and donald trump says he's a unifier. amy, you heard ben ferguson say a lot of people locked at the rallies and didn't think unifying when they thought of the trump rallies. >> well, carol, i have to say on the flip side of what ben said, there are many people that supported ted cruz and marco rubio and john kasich that have said they're no longer going to vote for those men that they were supporting because they stood up and went against donald trump in our first amendment rights and accused donald trump
of what was happening at the rallies when actually those were organized events. a lot of those were organized events. i think you're seeing the american people on both sides of the aisle are angry and frustrated. at the end of the day, the campaign season is going to end. this whole campaign is going to end. the primary and the general is going to come to an end. who is going to be in the white house that can best turn our country around in when you talk about ohio, i heard you last hour talk about how manufacturing, moving overseas has hurt the state. and it's hurt other states as well. >> along those lines -- wait a second. john kasich has come out. he's speaking to reporters. let's listen for a seconds. >> they'll vote for my reelection. >> what's the biggest surprise of your first national race? >> well, i'd say the biggest surprise has been the fact that i found how many people out there are lonely and don't seem to have anybody that listens to them and spends time with them or encourages them.
that's been the biggest surprise in the race. i've come to realize that there are a lot of people who just would like to be made to feel special. and it's been a great thing to see. >> reporter: what do you have to say to donald trump today? >> you're not going to ruin my day after i voted myself for president. i have nothing to say to them. >> reporter: a lot of work leading up to today. how do you feel? >> i feel great. we're going to win. i feel terrific. it's great. do i seem like i'm nervous or up tight? i'm having a great time. >> reporter: what does it feel like to vote for yourself for president? >> i learned that you need to vote for yourself because if you don't, you could lose. it felt very nice. i mean, it's a long road for me, and i'm -- i am very, very humbled by the campaign and the experience and the attention, attention and success can be very, very dangerous if it's not
handled the right way, and so i try to check myself all the time and make sure that i'm handling it the right way, which is to be appreciative of the opportunity -- can i finish? [ laughter ] >> look, it's all about keeping your feet on the ground. all the opportunities that you have are really a blessing, and grace, and that's what matters. everybody here, this is our moment in time, and before we know it, we'll all be gone. we do the best we can while we're here, but you have to watch all the time when you get a lot of attention. you know, the proverbs say unguarded stranger is a person's greatest weakness. i have a lot of good friends around me. >> reporter: you were in your
hometown last night in a rally. what are you hearing from them last night? what do they have to say about having you come home for the election? >> well, i mean, i think people are proud. you know, it's really interesting, because i've been asked do you regret the fact that you've been so positive in the campaign, and we all know that by the fact that i ran a positive campaign, or our team has run a positive campaign, that there were probably missed opportunities to get attention early on. but by continuing to run the race, the positive campaign is now starting to shine through like a beacon, all over the country, and as a result of that, it tells you you do the right thing even when sometimes -- first of all, i was never tempted to go negative. that was never a temptation.
in the third debate, i was the first one to challenge donald trump for his position on immigration and ben carson's position on medicare. >> reporter: what's next for you? >> can i finish? sometimes i take time to think before i finish. but running a positive campaign has been really, really good, and i think my neighbors have been proud of me. i know my daughters are, and my wife. i will be, however, forced going forward to talk about some of the deep concerns i have about the way this campaign has been run by some others, by one other in particular. but today is not the day to do that. i've been very concerned. i just saw a commercial, i guess it was last night, of these comments that were made about women. i have two daughters. they see this stuff. what do you think they think?
i'll have more to say about that, but that's going to be not designed to be negative as much as it is to point out things that i've seen that are deeply disturbing in this process, and i think i have a right to do that as a candidate, but in terms of rolling around in the mud, that's not where i intend to really ever go even in the fall election. >> reporter: what's next after ohio, after you win? >> we're going to pennsylvania tomorrow. >> reporter: governor you've been teasing you're going to see more on this the last few days. >> i'm not teasing anything. we don't do strategic things about what i say. have you noticed? i say what i want to say when i want to say it. i don't know. i'm building things up in my mind. i'm thinking. >> reporter: are you saying you weren't aware of these things before? >> i really was not. i wasn't. i think you even asked that jake said something in the debate. i'm not really paying that much
attention to that. it took for me to see the friday video, and then i actually 48 hours ago asked chris shrimf to give me a list of all the quotes, which i had not really seen before. things move fast in a presidential campaign. you don't really focus on -- i focus on what i'm going to be doing at my next event. i'm focussed on who is winning the golf tournament that i'm interested in, and that's about it. i mean, i don't really focus on what somebody else is doing in some other campaign. so it was really the first time that my eyes were really opened which meant i was probably like a normal voter, to be honest with you. >> reporter: governor, why do you continue to say you were the first one to take an donald trump. by that scott scott walker and rick perry had gone after trump. >> okay, maybe they did.
>> reporter: carly fiorina had had her interaction with trump. >> but that was a different thing. that was sort of name calling. i brought up the issue of immigration. right down here in westerville, you hadn't been assigned to the campaign yesterday. they didn't know we existed. some of you were down there at the rally. remember that? before the debate. and reed, in all seriousness, that's when i started to point out the differences on immigration, and, again, that was when ben carson said, we don't have to have medicare anymore. look, i'm just saying this was not something that i ignored. in terms of what i saw on friday night and what i've seen since then, reading these quotes, it's taken me to another level. >> reporter: why are you waiting? >> you don't even know what i'm going to say. the people will know. when i feel like i want to say
something, then i'll say it. that's the end of it. okay? i don't operate on somebody else's time line or schedule, including reacting to events. i react on my time line and my schedule because when you're governor of the 7th largest state, you learn to be cool about things. >> reporter: do you think people will ask for democrat or republican ballots? will they switch parties to vote for you? >> one lady told me she was. she didn't know where we were, youngstown, and a lady made me some hard boiled eggs and said i really wish i could vote for you but i'm a democrat. i said you can switch tomorrow. she said well, i will. and i'm going to call my sister. >> reporter: governor, has pete rose talked about endorsing you at all? >> haven't talked to pete rose. but arnold tweeted some cool stuff out. i guess he tweeted something out today telling people that they
need to vote. that was cool. i just got earl bruce and irvin meyer. when i win here today, maybe i can get barkley to come over. i would like to travel with the round mound of rebound. let me tell you one other thing. in all seriousness, let me tell you one other thing. it really is pretty amazing. where i came from, we all hear these stories. the stories could be about you too. this one just happens to be about me. to have started here as an aide all the way back to nixon and all the way back to church and back to my family, and then to come in here today and cast a vote for yourself for president of the united states, it's pretty remarkable.
but at the same time i say it, i just want you all to understand if any of you ever see me, and i -- i had apologized to somebody here just the other day because i wasn't -- didn't respond as appropriately as i should have. if any of you ever see me getting out of control, i want you to take me aside and i want you to say remember what you told us at that press conference, okay? i just want to be a good guy. helping my country is all i really want to do. okay? thank you all very much. >> reporter: what do you have to say to your volunteers -- >> john kasich after voting at the polling station and talking to the reporters. you can tell he has a warm and close personal relationship. he's been the governor for a long time. back in the 80s when i used to cover politics in ohio, he was in the ohio legislature. he was one of the youngest members ever. maybe he set a record. i don't quite remember. i know he was a very young man
when he first got elected to public office. he's remained a successful politician through all of these years. i want to go back to ben ferguson and amy kremme re. you heard kasich say he wants to be remembered as a good guy. i'll share a personal story. after my brother died, he died of cancer at a young age. john kasich made a point to call can me on the phone. he took me to lunch. he lost both his parents in a drunk driving accident, and he gave me great comfort in these days, so he is a good guy, and i guess that that story was brought to mind by the words he said at the end of the press conference which is so unusual coming from a politician to want to be remembered as a good guy no matter what happens. >> well, and i think that shows his sincerity. i also think it shows why he's doing so well in his home state and why i think it's going to be a tough battle there. he has run a positive campaign
regardless of the attacks that have been coming from him directly from donald trump. as he said, i want to be a good guy. i want my family to be proud of me. i think he was referring to where rubio got in the mud and said he'd never go back there and he embarrassed his children. i think that's a direct connection. i also think he's been smart in the workers in ohio. i was watching one of his smaller meetings, and he was reminding workers that hey, i am fighting for you. donald trump claims he's fighting for you, yet all of his goods and clothes are made in foreign countries. he brings in foreign workers to his resorts in the summertime. let's look at the record, and i am one that's fighting for you manufacturing jobs in america. i'm not claiming that i'm fighting for you. i'm actually doing it. >> ben, he supports the big trade deal. >> again, look at -- i'll say this and tell me where donald trump's clothes are made. tell me where his foreign workers are coming from. they're called foreign workers because they're from foreign
countries. donald trump has been saying that he's standing up for the american worker and the manufacturer, yet none of his clothes are mored in america. why? he cares more about the profits than he does about doing the right thing. i think that is going to be an issue today for voters specifically in ohio. >> well, amy, before you launch into your defense of donald trump, and i'll allow you the time, i want to bring up the ad that kasich mentioned in the press conference. he talked about an ad that was put out today. it's an anti-trump ad with a series of women repeating lines that donald trump actually
said. let's listen. >> you know it really doesn't matter what they write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of [ bleep ]. >> that must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees. >> there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her, wherever. >> women, you have to treat them like [ bleep ]. >> so, amy, john kasich said when he heard that, he found it very effective, and coupled with
what ben ferguson said, will that hurt donald trump? >> carol, this is what i say to that. i challenge both of you to find me one person on earth who has never said something they don't regret. it's very easy for a politician -- >> that's a pretty bad defense. >> the political correctness all the time. they always speak to political correctness. donald trump has never been a politician. it's hard to find somebody who hasn't made mistakes and said things they regret over time. at the end of the day, this is -- it's not about donald trump. that's what the media and the dc consultant class is missing here. this
is about the american people. and ben, when you talk about john kasich is fighting for jobs and so on and so forth, if that's the case, why hasn't he done well across the country? because he supports the big trade deal that president obama put together. wait a second. he has not been the stellar governor that everybody says. what's going to happen in 2018 in he expanded obama care in his
state. expanded medicare. >> you're wrong. >> if he were doing so well, let me tell you something, in 2018 when he's no longer in officer, they'll have big budget problems because of his large expansion of budget. the american people aren't falling for the talking points. >> i have to end it there. i have to end it there. >> it's become the working class versus the ruling class, carol. that's what's happening. >> all right. i have to leave it there. >> carol -- >> amy and ben i have to leave it there. thank you so much. >> thanks. >> still to come, ohio democrats voting trump. why some blue collar voters say the gop candidate is winning them over. from your cold & flu. you give them a case of the giggles. tylenol® cold helps relieve your worst cold & flu symptoms... you can give them everything you've got. tylenol®
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easy access to help 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. stay in your own home and keep doing what's important to you. get a philips lifeline today. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. when voters go to the polls, especially in ohio, the old clinton adage stands. it's the economy, stupid, and here's why. i'm from ohio. my father was a steel worker and my dreams came true because my family could afford a good life. consider this, according to "the new york times" in is the 87 the average wage for an auto maker
was 13 $.50. in 2014 an entry level employee made between $14 and $17. it could be why so many blue collar democrats are voting trump this time around. they feel democratic policies haven't helped them out. we listened in to one ohio local radio station to find out why. >> i've been a registered d since 1980, and i am taking a republican ballot. i'm supporting trump. >> i've had enough of these hand-chosen bought and paid for candidates. voting for trump. >> from day one i have been for donald trump. and i was a democrat. >> all right. you see that's youngstown, ohio. that's right in the middle of blue collar country. right now with me a democratic strategist and hillary clinton
support e supporter, and a democratic strategist and bernie sanders supporter. welcome to all of you. like i said, i grew up in a family of blue collar democrats. support for a republican candidate is nothing new to me. i was actually talking about that in 2012 when president obama ran for office. why are we surprised at this, david? >> you know, obviously in the short term there's been a lot of hype about trump, but i think as people look closely, this is a guy who i think in the second debate said he thinks wages is too high, and when he had to make ties in church, he did it in china and bangladesh. i'm confident as people are frustrated about wages being stagnant, they'll see the democrats are the ones offering better solutions. donald trump is talking good game right now, but his record and prior words aren't consistent with that. john kasich has been terrible for workers in ohio.
i disagree with some of your prior workers. he's attacked workers. wages are stagnant. our economy has not recovered quickly. it's been slower than the national average for 38 straight months. as we have time over the course of the rest of the election, we're confident the frustrated workers will see the democrats have the right solutions for them. >> emily, do you think it's overblown that people are switching parties to vote? >> i think it is to some extent. it makes an interesting story. trade is a big deal as the party chairman was just talking about in ohio. manufacturing is a big deal in ohio. i actually think that what we'll see today is going to be very interesting in terms of democrats voting in the republican primary. i actually think it's going to go both ways. i think will be come that vote for trump. i think there are a lot -- everyone is really into gaming out this election, right? there's a lot of democrats who feel that both sanders and
clinton are good options but the prospect of a trump presidency is terrifying that they're willing to cross over to vote for kasich, most likely. if he wins in ohio, he would clear some of a path during a brokered convention. it's the only chance to go with a candidate that isn't trump or cruz who is equal ri as terrifying to a lot of people. i think we'll see crossover voters for a lot of reasons. >> you may be right about that. it's been an interesting election. meki, i think the anti-trade talk is resonating. even if manufacturing jobs came back to ohio or pennsylvania or illinois. we don't make widgets anymore. manufacturing if brought back here should be high-tech. it paid more. why is it your candidate and other candidates talking about that? >> that's a great question, carol. i think that's the next generation of the debate to be quite honest. listen, 60,000 factories alone in the last 15 years have been
shut down. that's over 5 million jobs affecting the rust belt region. i'm from buffalo. i remember the factories. any grandparents worked in them. they're not opening more. they're empty. they're falling apart. but a lot of new companies are coming in because of tax incentives. i think that's the next generation of the conversation. to go back to what emily is saying, i'm a little bit worried. i looked at some of the numbers already who is switching parties. it looks like more democrats are switching to republican primary in ohio right now. within county alone has 14% of democrats switching to republicans. that's 1,000 voters. that's before voting started today. this is something we have to think about. this is a prequel to the general election. i think bernie sanders, most of his vote right now in ohio that he has to depend on other than the youth vote, and it's spring
break right you, is this blue collar reagan democrat. >> here's the thing about that county. every year democratic candidates go down to mahonin county and talk about how they can help the blue collar workers and help youngstown, a city in desperate need of help, and nothing ever helps. david, you know what i'm talking about. you're from ohio. i think they've had it. >> yeah, actually i would say in the last five years what they saw from democrats was the auto recovery, and a lot of good things that helped. most of the ohio recovery that's happened has come from national policies like that. the reason the ohio economy has not recovered as fast as other states is actually because of policies from people like john kasich. so the national policy has been helpful. we've seen new development in jobs in places like lordstown near youngstown. we've seen from john kasich and republicans trickle down economics, tax cuts for the rich. a lot of money taken from
communities like youngstown. if they're showing up -- if democrats are going to the republican primary, a lot of them know the stuff out of john kasich being a moderate is not true. they've seen five years of attacks on democrats and voting rights and women. if they are straying, it's probably more for trump than kasich. unlike other states, they know the narrative by kasich isn't true, and they know he's not worked across party lines. >> we're watching bernie sanders at a breakfast in chicago. he's sitting down with voters and talking to them. emily, a kwae fquestion for you. the blue collar democrats. hillary clinton has never been popular among that electorate. i think what people people don't understand about blue collar democrats, men in particular is they're socially conservative, right? they're not so into gay marriage or gun control or abortion. is that why blue collar men
aren't so attracted, older ones, to hillary clinton? >> it is possible. she does do better in democratic primaries with older voters in general. there may be something of a little bit of a disconnect there. we've had this discussion about voters crossing over between democrat and republican to vote in this primary. whether it's the democratic policies that are going down that are hurting the voters. i think the party chair is making a great point. the national recovery from the recession has been back but not in ohio. that is actually something voters should take into consideration and the polls. the median household income is back to prerecession rates. it has not gone up. why isn't ohio recovering. there's been republican controlled legislature. it's something to think about when they're going to the polls and think about who's leading the state. there are state primaries going on which could factor in a little bit. >> i have to leave it there. thanks to all of you.
>> thank you. >> all eyes are on florida and ohio as marco rubio and john kasich fight for home state wins, but missouri could be a chance for all of the candidates to pick up delegates. the delegates are are broken up proportionately unless a single candidate gets 50% of the vote. brian todd is with us this morning. >> reporter: good morning. a dynamic situation here. this is an important state. we are at thean area that leans evenly split between the parties. 52 delegates at stake here on the republican side, 71 on the democratic vote. we'll show you how the vote will work. four precincts vote here. people check in here, show a photo i.d. and then they get their choice of paper ballot which is scanned into a machine or touch screen.
here are some sample ballots right here. you have the republicans striped in red. democrats striped in green. we've sampled dozens of people here coming out of the polls. it's split here between democrats and republicans. there are a few late deciders. a lot of them have told us they've gone for ted cruz at the last minute. what everybody is talking about here in st. louis, they are talking about the rally that donald trump had where there were more than 30 people arrested. that's on the minds of a lot of republican voters. some of us have told us they decided late to go for ted cruz because of the division. they got turned off by trump. some of them said the rally solidified their vote for donald trump. this is where the vote is going to be tapulated in that machine. and then we'll put it to the captains here not far from here for the calculations when the polls close. >> you always make it sound to exciting. i love that about you. brian todd, thank you.
let's talk about the florida primary now. early voting has been higher than usual. 15 % statewide among republicans. that's according to wall state journal. about half of the early voters didn't vote at all in the 2012 gop primary. the chairman of the florida republican party is with us. welcome back, sir. >> good to be back. thank you. >> nice soft you here. what is your prediction for the great state of florida on the republican side? >> well, we're seeing, i think we're going to see record turnout as of this morning we've had about 1.17 million ballots cast. i think we're seeing a little bit lighter than normal turnout right now. we think that's because we've had record turnout in terms of early and absentee voting. i think it's going to be close. i don't think it's going to be as far off as what the polls are
suggesting. we're expecting a tight and competitive race. >> really? most of the polls show donald trump way ahead of rubio. so marco rubio could go bettdo than expected? >> i think senator rubio can do better than expected. some of the polling that we have seen, that is polling that is self-identified republican voters. they're not necessarily calling off of the voter rolls. some of the polling off the voter rolls has been closer. if anybody can pull off a statewide race as an underdog, rubio can do it. we've already seen him do it in 2010. >> are you seeing people switching parties as a lot of people are in other states? >> yeah. we are. that has been a dynamic not only just in the state of florida but we've seen that across the united states. the competition just this year competition itself, there are a bunch of people coming out, switching parties to vote for mr. trump. the competition them, all of
them are voting for all the candidates. what you're seeing with that is you're seeing the republican party, we're a lot more energized than what we're seeing at the democrats. overall 67% increase in voting on the republican side, and a drop of about 35 % on the democratic side. we're more energized than the democrats this time around. >> in your mind, those democrats who are switching parties to vote for donald trump, what do they see in donald trump? >> well, it's not just the democrats. it's the democrats, the republicans, and the independents. i think what everybody is seeing in this election is that they're just tired of the failed policies of the last seven years and they're really afraid of having another four, possibly eight years of continued failed policies of obama. listen, if hillary clinton sees the inside of the oval office, what everybody is really afraid of is more record debt, more stagnation in the economy, and
unfortunately, a five to four liberal majority for the supreme court. that's what's driving the competition. that's what's driving people to turn out in this election. >> when it all comes down to it, do you think that because senator rubio is a sitting senator, that's really why he's not doing so well in florida, even in his own state? >> well, look. obviously the polling, like i said before, the polling is suggesting that mr. trump has a lead right now. but overall, what the florida voters are most worried about from what i've seen is the economy. an economic message of prosperity and opportunity will resonate this election. >> all right. i have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining me this morning. i appreciate it. still to come, cnn is the only western news organization to get inside the rebel held syrian city of aleppo. our exclusive report next.
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air campaign are best seen in the rebel held areas of aleppo. much of it has been reduced to rubble. many of the residents are gone. clarissa ward is the only western journalist to visit in more than a year. he had to travel a treacherous highway known as death road to get there. >> reporter: you can tell when you're getting closer to aleppo. the streets are pockmarked with the aftermath of fresh air strikes. berms of earth flank the road to protect the way from enemy fire. it's a dangerous journey to a city few dare to visit.
we now have to drive extremely quickly along this portion of the road. because on one side you have the regime and on the other side you have kurdish fighters who are now fighting against rebel forces, and there are snipers all around here, but this is the only road now to get into aleppo. as you arrive in the city, the scale of the destruction is breathtaking. stretching on and on, entire residential neighborhoods reduced to rubble. aleppo was once syria's largest city, a bustling economic hub, now an apocalyptic landscape. russian war planes have bombed these areas relentlessly, allowing government ground services to have the rebel held
part of the city. still, there were pockets of life among the devastation. a fruit market. a line of people waiting patiently to collect water, now a precious resource here. this is basically what is left of rebel-held aleppo. after months and months of thousands of russian bombs raining down on here, the streets are largely deserted. the buildings have been destroyed, and the people who once lived here have been pushed out. and the very few residents who are still here who we've spoken to have told us that they don't expect the situation to get any better. in fact, they're convinced it will only get worse. this 70-year-old has lived in this city for 40 years. her grandson is a fighter with the islamist rebel group. in all, nine members of her family have been killed in the fighting, including two of her
three sons. >> translator: they all died on the front line. we raise our heads high for them. god willing, they are in paradise. >> reporter: what would it take for you to leave aleppo? >> translator: it is true, there is shelling and russian planes, and iranian militias, and every day there is a massacre, but it is enough for us to express our religion and our faith as free people without anyone stopping us. it is enough for us to fight and defend our honor and our women. >> translator: should we leave our country and go to another country? no. this is our country, and we will remain in it until we die. >> reporter: the people clinging onto life here feel that the world has abandoned them, leaving them only with god. their existence becomes more precarious with every passing day, but surrender is
unthinkable. >> clarissa ward joins us live. the news today is russia says mission accomplished, and when we see aleppo, is that what vladimir putin means? >> well, it's hard to know exactly what vladimir putin means, and having lived in russia twice, i think i've learned my lesson in trying to interment. his stated goal was to destroy terrorism in syria. the al qaeda affiliate has a strong presence in the part of the country where i was. as for mission accomplished, it doesn't seem so, but certainly for the people you saw in our story from aleppo, there is now maybe a glimmer of hope that potentially that aerial bombardment could abate a little bit. >> were there ever isis terrorists in aleppo? >> isis did have a presence in
aleppo some time ago. ironical ironically, it was more moderate rebel factions who pushed them out of aleppo. those moderate rebel factions have been on the receiving end of the russian and regime bombs that have been raining down on them. there's this kind of absolute quagmire have you have the u.s. backing rebels to fight isis which russia is then bombing in the name of fighting isis. it's a little difficult to decipher exactly what vladimir putin's real goal was here. i think many people would argue it was to prop up the regime of bashar al assad, and russia has done a lot in helping the regime alive. >> thank you very much. amazing reporting. still to come, donald trump thinking the unemployment rate is ten times higher than the white house says it is. really? the future belongs to the fast. and to help you accelerate, we've created a new company... one totally focused on what's next for your business.
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number? he's claimed the official unemployment number is eight times the rate. he said as you know as people give up looking for jobs, all of a suden they are considered employed statistically. that's not true. they are not counted as employed. he also says this. >> don't believe the phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment. the number is probably 28%, 29 %, as high as 35. in fact, i even heard recently 42 %. >> all of these numbers are not true. to make it to 42 %, he would have to count every single person whose not working and then some. everyone from students to retirees to stay at home parents, people who don't want to or have to work, and some people who have giving up looking. it's an active measure of who is looking for work. it's 4 .9%.
there's another unemployment rate used to assess the market. the underemployment rate is 9.7%. those working part-time but want a full-time job, those given up working for work but would like to. there are a lot of statistics out there. 42 % is not one of them. >> christine, thank you. thank you for joining me today. at this hour with berman and bolduan starts now. >> it's a love fest. >> the bernie sanders sign. >> don't worry. you're not going to get beat up at my rally. >> let's make sure we have a huge voter turnout. >> we are better than what we are hearing every night on television. >> the republican party is not going to allow itself to be hijacked. >> a vote for john kasich or rubio is a vot