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appreciate it. for more of her exclusive look behind rebel lines, visit that's it for me. i'll be back, 5:00 p.m. eastern, in "the situation room." start of our special coverage of super tuesday here in the united states. the news continues next on cnn. hi there, everyone, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. you're watching cnn special coverage of super tuesday elections, round three. we are in the midst of the most consequential day in the presidential election thus far. after the tallies come in together, there could be fewer republicans running for president. one republican, donald trump, may become the undisputed presumed nominee if he wins ohio and florida. mr. trump has already gotten off to a winning start, taking all nine delegates in the u.s.
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territory in the south pacific. as for the democrats here, any win by bernie sanders keeps hillary clinton's focus in the primary fight. taking type, taking resources from where many thought it would be by now the general election. so let's get straight to the voters. cnn's kyung lah is with voters in miami. cnn's dan simon is at a polling place outside of cleveland. dan, what's the turnout been like? >> turnout throughout the whole state has been solid all day long. we are here in north olmstead, ohio, cuyahoga county, the most populous county in the state. a number of people in line here. the most pressing thing, the predominant question is whether voters here in ohio who twice elected john kasich to statewide office will give him a lifeline. when voters come up to the desk, they can either request a republican ballot or a
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democratic ballot. meaning if you're a democrat and you want to vote for donald trump or you want to vote for john kasich, you are free to do so. that crossover vote could be critical. i've talked to a number of voters who are traditionally democratic voters who instead voted for john kasich today. what that vote ultimately ends up being could be very important. we should also opponent out that ohio is an early voting state. you had a number of voters cast their ballots early. at this point, things leaning towards republicans in terms of the ballots cost. it will be interesting to see if that trend stays here at the polls. >> all important ohio. to all important florida, kyung lah is in hialea. how many times do voters say marco rubio? >> they're saying it frequently. almost always, they say yes. but here's something interesting that i'm hearing from a couple of voters. one woman in particular said i'm
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voting for marco rubio but i don't like the guy. she's voting for him because she called donald trump, quote, a clown that she doesn't want in office. so that's the lay of the land here. but this is a marco rubio stronghold. this county, miami-dade. and here is potentially something that could be prolo problematic for marco rubio. that's something we've seen all day. it's been a slow trickle of people. it has not been lines. it has not been a lot of people. statewide, though, the florida department of state says there has been very good turnout, very good turnout. just not necessarily right here in the rubio stronghold that we can see with our eyes. >> kyung lah, thank you. much more to discuss here on this super tuesday part three. let me turn now to a syndicated radio talk show host and supporter of cruz.
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cnn political commentator van jones who was an adviser in the obama white house. clay aiken, a former democratic candidate for congress independent state of north carolina who now officially supports bernie sanders, and adrianna cohen, radio host, backing donald trump. welcome all of you. before we get going, we have to begin in ohio, and john kasich, and he said a little bit more this morning that i think surprised some folks. so let's take a listen to what the ohio governor -- >> i will be, however, forced, going forward, to talk about some of the deep concerns i have. about the way this campaign has been run by some others. i just saw a commercial about these comments that were made about women. i have two daughters. they see this stuff. what do you think they think? we'll have more to say about that. if any of you ever seen me --
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and i had apologized to somebody here just the other day because i wasn't -- didn't respond as appropriately as i should have. if any of you ever see me getting out of control, i want you to take me aside, and want you to say, remember what you told us at that press conference, okay. because i just want to be a good guy. >> so, steve, let me just begin with you on that first beat, where he said, you know, forced to talk about things. we've talked to governor kasich. he said time and time again, i'm the adult in the room, staying above the fray. what is he really saying there? do you think we'll see a change in strategy post-ohio against, specifically, trump? >> they're probably trying. >> okay, let me try adrianna. we'll work on steve. technology sometimes.
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adrianna, do you know when kasich was specifically talking about perhaps a change in strategy, he stayed above the fray so far, do you think that might change depending on how well he fares in his home state? >> i think it could. i think why he brought that up, that statement you played, maybe he will go after trump about those comments he made about women but it's not going to move the needle one way or another. trump has strong support from women. a lot of republican women are very strong. they don't get freaked out by a few words or a little micro-aggression. we have thick skin, many of us, throughout this country. and we also know our country is facing much more graver problems in the world such as iran, testing nuclear, you know, testing ballistic missiles. so our country has much graer problems than a couple of
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words -- >> i know what you're talking about. john kasich was talking about this commercial where a lot of vulgarities that mr. trump used are being used against him. let me just stay with you. as a woman, how do you defend mr. trump, given what is inarguably vulgar? >> i think it's much to-do about nothing. when i was in fifth grade, my mother taught me, sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never harm you. i can't believe we live in an ultrasensitive society where a few words get people's panties in a twist. it's ridiculous. iran, excuse me, isis is beheading people, isn't that a graver threat to our nation -- >> aren't we talking about -- van jones, i want your voice in here because we are talking about someone who is trying to be president, thus would like to be presidential, jump in, van. >> well, my parents taught me the same thing but they also taught me that words matter. one of the things that is
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happening and i think a lot of people, just regular people, not political people, have been really hurt and shook up, shaken up by this entire process. especially the past several days. it seems like what's on the ballot now isn't just about policy. something about the character of america. who we are as a people. suddenly feels like it's up for grabs. i think democrats and republicans are having to take a different look. some say, listen, we don't mind this sort of circus clown culture. this reality tv shock culture. some of us do mind. that's a bipartisan feeling that we want to be the kind of country where standards matter. where your kids can watch the news and see our leaders and you actually don't have to tell your kids not to act like the leaders of the country. >> i've heard you talk about of course with regard to your boys -- hang on, exactly van what you're talking about hits upon what we heard from
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president obama. this is what he said earlier today. >> we have heard vulgar and divisive rhetoric aimed at women and minorities and americans who don't look like us or pray like us or vote like we do. we've seen misguided attempts to shut down that speech. in response to those attempts, we've seen actual violence. and we've heard silence from too many of our leaders. too often, we've accepted this as somehow the new normal. and it's worth asking ourselves what each of us may have done to contribute to this kind of vicious atmosphere in our politics. this is also about the american brand. who are we? how are we perceived around the world? there's a reason that america's always attracted the greatest talent from every corner of the globe. there's a reason that made america mean something.
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it's because we're creative and dynamic and diverse and inclusive and open. why would we want to see that brand tarnished? this is also about what we are teaching our children. we should not have to explain to them this darker side of politics. we should not be afraid to take them to a rally or watch political debates. we should be teaching them that this democracy is a vibrant and precious thing and it's going to be theirs some day and we want them to elevate it. >> so a couple of notes there. we've talked about, you know, the darker side of politics and kids. van, i know you talked about that. talked about brand america. we don't want our brand tarnished. but, clay, let me go to you. because one note that the president mentioned was we all
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need to ask ourselves, you know, our role in all of this. and do you think there is a piece of the president that is saying yes perhaps i too own some of that? >> i think he's recognizing he's the person who needs to speak up and really jump into this conversation. i think he's been a little bit quiet about it, until today. and i think he recognizes his role is to try to make sure he's the voice of reason. i think he does that. you see how he does -- you look at him and contrast him with what you're seeing from donald trump. listen, i'm going to take a little bit responsibility myself. i've been on this show for months here talking about how donald trump has been nice to me and implying that he was a good guy because he was nice to me when i was on a show but i'm done with that myself. we've spent the past five days listening to him excuse violence. we've listened to him tell people to punch somebody at his rallies. to do that and then to deny
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there's violence at his rallies, to pretend this is not a problem, that's not just irresponsible, it's delusional. so, you know, i'm kind of done with defending him myself. and i'm kind of ashamed that i've done it up until now. >> wow. steve, i want your voice as well since we're hearing from you. if you want to respond to some of what clay shared and also your thoughts on what president obama said. >> i thought what happened friday night in chicago, brooke, was shameful. it looked like the nationalists and the communists crashing sfleet streets of berlin in the 120, 1920s. a group of people have a tendency to revert back to tribalism, to follow megalomaniacs who promise they have all the answers, whether it's hope and change or make america great again. and what donald trump is doing here -- listen, we have seen all
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over the country. if you've been to conservative events, you have seen sort of this leftist mobocracy. it is clear they think they have some sort of moral standing to shut down free speech or political dissent and i find it shameful and un-american -- >> hold on, let me make sure i'm hearing you correctly. you talk about hope and change. are you blaming president obama for that rally being shut down friday night? >> what i'm saying is donald trump is simply a reflection of the last megalomaniac with empty slogans that ran eight years ago and he's trying the exact same plan -- >> that's not fair -- >> -- instead of one group of potential victims out on streets, now another group of potential phony victims -- >> there's a major difference -- >> that's what you saw on friday night -- >> there's a big difference between running on hope and change and inspiring people in this country which is what obama did eight years ago -- >> -- really inspired in the streets of chicago, those
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leftists on friday night -- >> it was thugs, a lot of them were thugs -- >> the opposite of -- >> inspired by anger -- >> the reflection of the anger coming out of the rally, the stuff that donald trump is talking about, the hate that he's in a way preaching and the hate that's in thought rooms. the only reason there's anger outside is because there are people in the streets who do believe in this country. who do believe in the hope and -- >> and by the way, let's be fair, there's a lot of anger in this country. i think a lot of it is justified. a lot of it is economic based. bernie sanders has as well, van, you may want to jump in. >> let me just say a few things. i want to acknowledge. i feel uncomfortable with the disruptions of the donald trump protests as they have developed. i also, though, remember, when that muslim woman went there silently, wearing a shirt saying "we are hear in peace" and she
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stood up and she was ejected so forcefully and subjected to so much vile vitriol. even a silent witness at a donald trump rally can be met with violence. i think that's something i'm very concerned about. i also think it would be important for us to acknowledge that donald trump has so much opportunity to speak, that some people feel like the fairness doctrine is out the window and there's an attempt, possibly misguided, to impose a kind of almost people's fairness doctrine to say listen, you get to talk too much what about the rest of us. i don't think it's being handled in the right way. but i think to equate the kind of whipping up of violence that you saw from donald trump with anything that president obama hass esaid, i just don't think it's fair, sir. >> steve and then adrianna. >> i would be happy to -- i would love to respond. what donald trump is doing in response to this is despicable. it's way i'm not supporting him.
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it's why i'm doing everything i possibly can to not have this guy be the republican nominee. because the response to the failures of the obama era is not na white nationalism -- >> oh, that's ridiculous -- it's not white nationalism -- >> hold on, you can finish. i watch cnn a lot. i think they're more than fair in the coverage. so let another candidate's side speak for just a moment. the record speaks for itself. i'm going to pay for your legal battles if you punch a guy. that speaks for itself. what also speaks for itself, the radical left that you've seen in places like wisconsin, that i see in almost every conservative event around the country i go to, that i've seen at ted cruz events, where they stand up and think they're entitled to scream and shout you down. the reaction you're getting from trump and some of his minions in response to this is reprehensible but the people on the other side helping to spark
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it aren't any more innocent than he is. >> i hear you on both sides. adrianna, i do want to hear from you, because you are the person who supports trump. so many people have come forward and said, listen, why doesn't he -- if he wants to be president, act presidential? why not tone down the temperature? jake tapper asked mr. trump that himself on sunday. help essentially was saying, you know, all the other candidates are saying that it's violent, it's not violent, he's not acknowledging the injuries. how do you wrap your head around that? >> first off, want to say i've been to one of trump's rallies and there were no problems. donald trump has had hundreds of rallies to cherry pick three events where a mop shows up and tries to provoke violence, you're going to -- >> adrianna it's a lot more than three. leapt's just be accurate. it's more than three. >> the majority of his events, the majority of his events have been peaceful. i see an extreme double standard here. the left, including hillary
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clinton, wants to attack trump for divisive rhetoric, yet she called half this country her enemies during her first cnn debate with anderson cooper. she said, the republicans. that's half this nation. if that is -- >> she was laughing when she said that. >> -- insulting. you know what, she also compared pro-life americans to terrorists last august. that's despicable, yet you don't see -- >> you think it's violent? >> -- thousands of protesters shutting them down because she called half this country terrorist because they don't support abortion so hillary clinton knows how to dish it out but she live unless a glass house and a lot of republicans are fed up with the double standards. >> let me go -- let me move past this and get to tomorrow morning. when we wake up, a possibility is that trump wins huge. he could take both ohio and
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still take florida. do you think his focus is on hillary clinton and he moves straight forward to attacking her? >> i think tonight's going to go very well for ted cruz. i think when we wake up tomorrow. i think there's a better chance trump will only win one state than he will win them all. marco rubio will be eliminated. kasich will win his home state but be mathematically eliminate. we're going to have a two-man race. we're going to have a race between what kind of party is the gop going to be, a conservative party or a nationalist party. and there is no middle ground. are we going to run on principle or run on division like obama did in '08. >> let me ask all of you to standby. looking ahead to tonight, hillary clinton saying democrats need to hurry and focus on
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part watch came of the conversation was the heated rhetoric, the violence at some of these trump rallies. we just learned during the commercial break the senate majority leader mcconnell had a phone call with trump this morning. he said it was a good phone call but specifically told trump no matter who may be triggering some of the violence at these rallies of his, it would be a good idea for trump to discourage it. we're waiting to get more. meantime, hillary clinton said this. >> i think it is important we really do focus on the very dangerous path that donald trump has laid out here. the kind of bigotry he's
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exemplifying on the campaign trail is disturbing to a think a majority of americans. >> back with me as we talk dems, clay aikens and van jones. clay to you first here, there was hillary clinton talking about the vulgarity we just heard the president speak about a moment ago. again, her focus still is she's fighting the good fight with bernie sanders and i'm wondering if you think senator sand sers distracting her from her real issue assuming she's the presumed nominee? >> i think he's keep hearing on message in a way it he's obviously, as i said yesterday, he's sort of winning the message primary, pulling her into some of the issues people in the democratic party want to talk about but more importantly i think you look at both of the candidates on the democratic side, both of the candidates on the democratic side are better than anybody on the republican side. and one of the reasons that they're better is all the debates have been about policy issues. all of the discussion has been about policy and not really about personality. as long as bernie sanders stays in the race, they continue to talk about their plans for america, instead of letting it
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devul v into an attack on trump. democrats have always been very good at running for something. and as long as bernie sanders remains in the race with hillary clinton, they're going to continue to talk about their plans, instead of turning the race into running against donald trump. >> van, do you agree with that, do you think that's a good thing for secretary clinton? >> there's some peril for her. first of all, you know, bernie sanders has opened up and exposed a real weakness in hillary clinton's armor in that in the rust belt, this message about trade, against nafta, et cetera, seems to be resonating. trump has that same message. if you wind up in a situation where it's hillary versus donald trump, donald trump now can see a real pathway that bernie sanders has already laid out of how to go after her. he would do it anyway. but i do think there's some peril there. i do think hillary clinton has
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been improved -- i agree with clay, by having a tough strong primary. she's gotten much better. she's much better on the stump. i think our issues have evolved to be much closer to the base. all that's good. i'm telling you right now, there's a path for trump through the rust belt. if you look at michigan, you look at ohio, you look at pennsylvania, those are blue states but they have republican governors. that anti-trade message from a trump or from a sanders resonates there. hillary clinton needs to use this time to figure out how she's going to defend herself on trade with bernie, if she winds up with the nomination. she's going to have to pull up those same arguments against donald trump. >> van jones, thank you very much. grab some water my friend. >> sorry. >> clay aiken. just a reminder, stay with cnn for all day coverage of super tuesday. extensive coverage today. including real-time results as the votes are counted this evening and the reaction from the candidates as well. do not miss a minute only here on cnn. coming up, marco rubio has a
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lot, perhaps everything, riding on his home state of florida here tonight. that's no secret. but how will he respond to the resultings? might he stick around for the long game? win lose or draw? we'll take you live to miami next. plus, he is the former mayor of cincinnati and certainly no stranger to tabloid television. so what does jerry springer think about this race for president? he will join me live.
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i'm brooke baldwin. crucial primary day for florida senator marco rubio. a lot of eyes obviously watch the returns in his home state of florida tonight. will voters give him enough staying power to continue his white house run? ed o'keefe is back with me today. he's a political reporter for "the washington post." nice to see you, sir. let's begin with how you phrase the mood on the rubio trail. a funeral mood. why do you think that? what has he said? >> well, it's because i think they realize that, you know, poll after poll after poll in this state continues to show donald trump ahead. while the rubio campaign think they're going to somehow catch him, we haven't seen enough evidence of that. if he loses, it's simply because the trump phenomenon was something they couldn't overcome. so you've seen him talking about the whole promise of why he ran, the arc of his career, and
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talking last night, quite hopefully i think, about the future not only for his state but for the country and the concerns the conservative movement is about to be hijacked by donald trump. >> you even talked to a woman, ed, whose mother is dying of alzheimer's, say, i'm here and my mom is dieing. here as in voting. but we have to help marco. where are his supporters? where are the folks who voted yes for him as a senator? >> they're all across the miami date region where i am now. the campaign is confident they will turn out an overwhelming amount here in south florida. the question is how will they do in places like jacksonville, pensacola, along the i-95 corridor on east coast. that's where he spent most of his time in the last few days, bouncing between tampa, orlando, up to jacksonville, out to pensacola. yesterday, he did a bus tour
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from jacksonville back to his west miami neighborhood and there he was greeted by a few hundred supporters. the people who have been voting for him in one way or another since he was 26, whether it was for commissioner or the statehouse or the u.s. senate. if you see numbers tonight in miami-dade county putting him at 70% plus, they may be just on the verge of catching trump. they'll have to make up that margin in other parts of the state because the early voting that went off at historic levels in the state is believed to have cut to trump and it's been ongoing for several weeks. >> how do you think -- final question, if he loses florida, what does he have, not even another year in the senate, and maybe he has gubernatorial wishes is that just dashed? >> we'll see, depends on how big a loss there is if he loses. certainly if he wins, he continues on. if it's close, i think his campaign might find a way to continue on. we'll see. but talking to people in the last few days, they say sure.
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if he wants to run again in two years, i'm with him. whether it's for governor or some other position, you know, remains to be seen. i think the other problem he will face here in the state is there are other state-wide officials who will like that job, to run for governor. if he really wants it, he'll have to spend his time cultivating his political network, something a lot people told us he didn't spend a lot of time doing in recent years so we'll see. >> ed o'keefe, thank you very much. chat soon, i'm sure. meantime, coming up, could ted cruz win the nomination? in all important winner take all states like ohio and florida? we'll talk about the four big things to watch for tonight. ourl for all the wrong reasons. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®. theand the kids always eat sky their vegetables.e.
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all right, tonight, date night with us here at cnn. you got your popcorn, choice of beverage, your pajamas and the david chalian, cnn political director. david chalian, the four things you are watching for tonight, starting with mr. trump. >> starting with mr. trump. trump's path. this is going to become clear tonight. either he emerges from tonight with a very clear path of needing only about half the remaining delegates to get to that magic number of 1237 and he's going to get that nomination before the convention. or if he loses ohio, where he's most competitive right now against john kasich, then indeed i think we're going to learn this is going to a contested convention and we're going to be going to cleveland not knowing who the nominee is for the republican party. >> speaking of ohio, what are you watching in ohio for both dems and republicans? >> yeah, it's the critical state. as you know, it's the mother of all battleground states for the
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general election and it is tonight too on this super tuesday three. so john kasich obviously the home state governor there are. he really should win. but the fact that trump is having such a successful time has made it competitive. that will be determined, as we were just discussing. on the democratic side, listen, it's a similar state to michigan. where hillary clinton was sort of up-ended by bernie sanders last week in that surprise victory for him, and so we're looking to see might -- although hillary clinton has had a slight lead in the poll, might the makeup be like michigan? that's what we're looking for in ohio on the democratic side. >> number three, marco rubio? >> rubio's response to results tonight, brooke this is going to be a later in the evening response to watch for. watch how he responds to the results. if marco rubio loses his hope state of florida tonight, he'll have one of two options. either bow out of this race and
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say there's not' pa a path forw or he'll acknowledge there's not a path forward to winning the nomination outright but he's going to stay in this race to be part of this stop trump movement. there are varying opinions in his camp of what he should do there. he still think he's got a chance to win florida. that is what to watch for, the response to those results. >> okay, and number four, what is it? >> clintonance fate. i don't mean the fate of whether or not she'll be the nominee. but hillary clinton is going to learn whether or not she's going to spend rest of this spring leading into the democratic convention in the summer the all but certain nominee and already focusing on the general election, or she's going to learn tonight she is going to have a democratic nomination fight that she's going to need to pay attention to, engage in, and fight through, all the way through june, not being able to turn her sights on to the
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general election in the fall. that will come down to whether or not she is winning four or five states tonight. she could probably move on and start focusing on the general a little more, even if bernie sanders stays in. if she wins two of five states tonight, even though the delegates are on her side and she is still the likely nominee, she is going to have a spring full of a fully engaged democratic nomination race. >> all right, david chalian, i'm excited for my date tonight watching you and the rest of the gang on cnn. thank you very much as always. coming up next, my next guest, jerry springer, listen, he is someone who has been in tv for decades. someone who has seen it all. but has he ever seen anything quite like this presidential race? we will talk politics with the forrer m e former mayor of cincinnati, ohio, next.
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underscore the significance of state of ohio. we're closely watch the state of ohio where governor kasich, you see him here, was voting this morning in westerville. he's hoping to snatch a winner take all victory from donald trump. ohio massively important. it is a bellwether that was once home to jerry springer. you know jerry springer as the host of one of tv's most combustible shows, the jerry springer show, but did you know he was also once the mayor of cincinnati, a democrat who now fully supports hillary clinton for president? jerry springer. nice to see you. >> brooke, thanks for having me. >> i know that you sort of straddled two important states today. your home's in florida, this is where you cast your ballot. used to serve as mayor of cincinnati. let's begin there with ohio. this is really john kasich's state to lose. he says if he does lose it, he's out. do you think he will beat trump? >> i do. it also will have an effect on
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the democratic race. it may not be as important for the democrats as people are saying right now. and the reason for that is in ohio you can vote in either party's primary. >> it's an open primary. >> right. so the fear that people have of having trump, there are a lot of independents or even some moderate democrats who are convinced that hillary's going to be the candidate anyway, that they're going to vote in the republican party to have kasich beat trump. so i'm not sure that you can just look at ohio in the primaries and make a determination of how strong hillary's going to be or even how strong trump's going to be. i think a kasich victory tonight will come with a lot of independent and democratic votes which will effect the race on the democratic side. >> on the republican side, and specifically with regard to mr. trump, we were just reporting that the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell
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apparently was on the phone with donald trump today. essentially said to donald trump, listen, we really think you should publicly denounce the violence at your rallies. why do you think this is happening? have you ever seen anything quite like this? apparently he's looking to pay the legal fees of the 78-year-old who sucker punched that protester last week. >> well, we need to put it in perspective. first of all, those of us old enough to remember, this year -- >> '68. >> this year doesn't compare at all with 1968. 1968, you had the whole country in turmoil. what happened at the convention, you had fights. martin luther king was assassinated. cities were burning down. there were riots at the conventions. it was way more than what is happening now. what is different about this race is never before has the candidate himself been one to instiga instigate whatever the problems are. yes, that has created a problem. frankly, i don't think there's
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anyway, you're going to run this tape back if i'm wrong, but don't think there's anyway donald trump gets elected president of the united states. he may win the republican nomination, but american's not going to vote for him. once you get the whole electorate voting, hispanics, african-americans, women, young people. once you get everybody in that picture, they're not going to vote for donald trump because they're not going to want his finger on the button. the symbol of america is the statue of liberty, not a wall. >> it may strike some watching us right now that you are talking about all this bad behavior at these rallies when your show is famous for this. >> right.
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how do you respond to that? >> what a great show that was. here's the point. if you look closely at the screen, you won't find one person there running for president. that's the difference. the show is entertainment. the show's a circus. the show is stupid. i've said that for 25 years. the show is what it is. my gosh, when you're talking about running the free world, running america, what kind of nation we ought to be, you don't go to a television show. this is real. this is real, what's happening in this country. >> do you think though that's part of what is dividing -- >> i don't want someone who has been on my show to be president of the united states. >> i hear you. but do you think that is creating some of the divisiveness in this culture? also, you know, factor in celebrity here and that role in
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politics. >> well, celebrity and politics was inevitable. after the last 30 years, 35 years, since ronald reagan, when president reagan said government can't solve problems, government is the problem. for the last 35 years, we have raised a generation of americans to believe that government is terrible. hate watshington. distrust anyone in politics. every political commercial we all see is how terrible the other person is. so people grow up in america believing that government is horrible. it was inevitable that at some point someone would run for president who is not a part of government, who has never been in government, who hates the government. now, there are only two fields they could come from, this outsider. to be well enough known. you'd either have to be an athlete. or you'd have to be with the social media today in the entertainment field. so it is not surprising that
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someone in the world of entertainment would ultimately run for president. did we know it would be donald trump? of course not. but certainly it was inevitable we get outside someone from the entertainment field to run against the government. >> final question just quickly if you were to invite trump to your circus, what's the one question you'd want to ask him? >> have you ever been a woman? no, i don't know. he could never be on -- he could never be on the show because he's known. you can't be on our show if you're known. >> jerry springer. you have rendered me speechless. thank you for squeezing me in in between two of your show tapings. jerry springer, thank you so so much. >> sure, thanks, brooke. straight ahead here, i mentioned this a second ago. the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell revealing he and trump talked today by phone. he was offering the republican front-runner some advice about
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and we continue along. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me on this super tuesday round three. we are now witnessing the most consequential day in the presidential election thus far, after the tallies come in tonight. there truly could be fewer republicans running for
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president. donald trump may actually become the undisputed presumed nominee. depending how tonight goes, specifically if he wins both ohio and florida. trump has already gotten off to a winning start. taking all nine delegates in the northern marianas, u.s. territory in the pacific, so there's that. any win by bernie sanders keeps hillary clinton's focus on the primary fight, taking time, taking resources from where many thought it would be right now, the general election. then you have obviously voter turnout. the polls. i have dan simon with us in north olmsted ohio, near cleveland. dan simon, at a polling place in winter park, florida. how has the turnout been there thus far? >> brooke, right now, it's actually pretty slow behind me. things are not moving quickly. very different than how it looked this morning. there's actually a line out the door here. despite what looks like a pretty low turnout.
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it's actually exceeded expectations. in this precinct in winter park, about 40% of voters already cast their ballots through early voting. winter park is expected to be a strong hold for donald trump in contrast with south florida which tends to lean towards marco rubio and north florida which is evenly split between the two. from voters i've spoken to here, they're pretty evenly split between rubio and trump. one voter told me she supports john kasich. that she thinks he would be great in the white house. but she was casting her ballot for marco rubio because she believes he has the best chance of stopping trump from securing the nomination. of course, florida's 99 delegates are huge in this race. it could keep rubio's campaign afloat and it could keep trump from securing the 1,237 delegates he needs heading into the convention, brooke. >> that's right, 99 there, 66 in ohio. dan, to you, sir, what's the
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scene there? >> hi, brooke, turnout has been solid. we chose this community of north olmsted because it's diverse, has a large number of both republicans and democrats. the big story line is whether voters who twice elected john kasich to state-wide office will give him a lifeline. this is pretty critical. here in ohio, if you're a voter, you can poll either a republican ballot or democratic ballot. if you are a democrat, you can vote for john kasich or you can vote for donald trump. we've talked to voters who have done both. we have yet to speak with a republican voter who has polled a democratic ballot. so that's going to be interesting to see, how that crossover vote influences the election. brooke. >> dan simon, thank you. so much to get into, so let's do it. joining me now, the author of george h.w. bush, the american president series. he used to be the director of the presidential lie break now director at nyu. i have chief political correspondent dana bash with us from washington.
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political strategist angela rye, former director of the congressional black caucus. and amanda carpenter, used to serve as the communications director for senator ted cruz. welcome to all of you on this super tuesday part three. and let me just first tee up the sound. we've been talking about it. now we have sound from the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. we heard there was a phone call between the senate majority leader and donald trump. here's what mcconnell sheared. >> i appreciated his call. and i took the opportunity to recommend to him that no matter who may be triggering these violent expressions or conflicts that we've seen in some of these rallies, it might be a good idea to condemn that and discourage it, no matter what the source of it is. >> so dana, let me begin with you. your beat has been the hill for many a year.
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how unusual is it that leader mcconnell will have spoken with a presidential candidate? >> that they've spoken, not that unusual, but for the senate majority leader to come out and talk to the press core and say he privately told the front-runner for president in his own party that he should try to tamp down on some of the violent rhetoric and what has been going on at some of these rallies, that is extraordinary, it really is. it just kind of goes to show that, look, it's not a secret that mitch mcconnell has not wanted donald trump to be their party's nominee. he's said privately to senators who were up for re-election in his caucus, you know, do what you have to do, which is not something you usually hear again from a party lead better that party's potential nominee, but this is different, this is something that has to do with decor decorum, has to do with, again,
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the way the republican party is perceived, and the fact that he, just like the house speaker on the other side of the capital, came out and said this, is quite telling about how -- i don't want to say panic, but how worried the republican party is. never mind the white house, but about keeping control of senate in particular in november. >> we talk about some of the rhetoric. you then have the ohio governor john kasich. he was voting this morning in his home state. as he was doing so he, you know, spoke and noteworthy some of what he said. here is the ohio governor. >> it took for me to see the friday video, and then i actually 48 hours ago asked chris shremp to give me a list of all the quotes. win i have not really seen before. things move fast in a presidential campaign. you don't really focus on -- i
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focus on what i'm going to be doing at my next event. it was really the first time that my eyes were really open. which meant i was probably like a normal voter. in terms of what i saw on friday night and what i've seen since then reading these quotes, it's taken me to a whole other level. >> amanda, let me ask you about that. he's referring to quotes from donald trump. think he's eluding to a video where there are women using some vulgarities against mr. trump. he's apparently just, you know, learning of this. and all, what do you make of a potential strategy change for the ohio governor who for the most part has remained above the fray? >> i guess i'm glad john kasich has finally got up to speed on these matters. this is kind of a half-hearted response. also from mitch mcconnell. you're talking about one of washington's most powerful republicans going out and telling trump it might be a good idea to condone the violence? i mean, you think? this is part of the problem.
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the leadership in washington has been so feeble. i mean, mitch mcconnell speaking to trump the way a prisoner might speak to its guard saying "please don't hurt me." donald trump is happening. if you're not condemning this violence, think you're permitting it. donald trump hasn't condemned it. think people can be a lot more strong in their criticism of trump for allowing this to continue. >> angela, what do you think? >> i totally agree with amanda. i think -- i said this last night on air, if you have not blatantly condemned these attacks, this violence, this rhetoric, then you are completi completionist. the fact that john kasich can say he wasn't as familiar with it and it took for him to see the video friday, he had to have seen this is exactly what was coming when they were all kissing donald trump's behind at these debates earlier on. he had to have seen it just because of how donald trump bullies the other candidates. this is not new material. we've seen this time and time again. i'm very shocked and frankly very disappointed that now
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governor kasich in the 11th hour is saying that now is -- it's enough, enough is enough. now we're reaping all of the consequences of the rhetoric. we've seen, you know, as a woman who was doing the heil hitler sign, and she was like, well, i'm not a nazi, but she then wouldn't to say she heard on donald duke's radio program that donald trump was the lesser of two evils. she said she's not a nazi by quoting a white supremacist. this is would be of hne of his supporters. shame on the republican party who have not condemned donald trump until it's far too late. >> all right, on ohio, obviously, trump wants it. trump says he's going to win. kasich, this is his home state. tim, my question, from activepe hewitt tweeted, the future of the republican party hangs on ohio today. do you agree with that? >> i'll leave it to hugh hewitt to decide the future of the republican party.
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what i'll tell you about today, brooke, is that if kasich wins ohio, it becomes much more unlikely that donald trump will get the majority number of delegates before cleveland. so that means the stop trump movement can continue. if trump wins both florida, where he's expected to win today, and ohio, it becomes increasingly likely that he'll get more than enough delegates to win in cleveland. i suspect, you'd have to ask hewitt, i suspect that's what he means. that frankly donald trump is, does represent for many republicans, the end of the party as they know it. tonight is the night where we know whether the stop donald trump campaign can continue past ohio. >> ohio's just such a bellwether and perhaps that's part of what he was referring to. >> ohio's a bellwether in our presidential elections. in many ways, it's a diverse powerful important midwestern state. it's also purple.
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and kasich has rested his entire campaign on the fact that he can be the favorite son of ohio. what's very sad for rubio supporters is his campaign needs him to be the favorite son in florida and it doesn't -- we should be careful, we've been surprised a lot. last week we were surprised about michigan and sanders. but it doesn't look like sanders will be the favorite son in miami. the last chance for the dump trump movement is kasich winning today in ohio. >> we have so much more. moments ago, hillary clinton making a pretty interesting revelation about trump and her race. plus, a tea party leader who says in florida today's revenge day for their own senator marco rubio. and that time president obama helped this guy freestyle. it could be ibs-d. prescription xifaxan is a 2-week ibs-d treatment that helps relieve diarrhea and abdominal pain for 6 to 24 weeks.
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i do think if there's a large voter turnout, we're going to do just great here in illinois, missouri and ohio and hopefully north carolina, florida. i think that in the states that are coming down the pike we have
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great opportunities to win many of them. >> feeling good. senator sanders speaking there, commenting on his campaign from chicago. his opponent, hillary clinton, hosting her super tuesday round three party in north carolina tonight. that is also where we find polo sandoval at a polling station in car lot charlotte. >> when it came time for the primaries, it perhaps didn't get a lot of attention. because at one point the primaries were held in may. that's when there's usually a presumptive nominee. however, the primary was actually moved up to march, which means people here in north carolina get to be part of this super tuesday excitement. that's why we have seen some very impressive turnout here at this polling location in charlotte, brooke, we have seen at least 600 people pass through here. keep in mind, there are about 250 locations statewide. tey do expect, at least the count, the state, rather, does expect some very high numbers, especially since the absentee
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and also the early voting numbers have surpassed primaries in 2008 and 2012. you talk to people who think they're going to win, and it seems to be they're expecting a clinton and trump victory later tonight. but ultimately the voters decide. all these votes -- by the way, they're still about halfway through the voting process here. still need to be counted before we have a better idea exactly which way north carolina will go. brooke. >> polo sandoval, thank you so much, in charlotte. come tomorrow, hillary clinton may be facing a very different campaign trail if donald trump sweeps the field in his third super tuesday and solidifies his place as the presumed nominee. will she pivot and focus on trump or stay in the good fight in her primary against rival bernie sanders? here is what secretary clinton said just a short while ago. >> i think it is important that we really do focus on the very dangerous path that donald trump has laid out here. the kind of luster and bigotry
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and bullying that he's exemplifying on the campaign trail is disturbing to i think the majority of americans. >> all right, welcome back to the panel, dana bash, to you first. secretary clinton says it's not her choice about whether it's time for her campaign to start focusing, you know, on the general election. and not on sanders. but what she did say was important for democrats to start focusing on trump. how frustrating is this for her to be -- i don't know if distracted is the right word in continuing this onslaught against sanders versus a general election fight? >> you know, i think in some ways of course it's frustrating because she feels like she is going to be the nominee and the longer it takes to set her sights on donald trump or whomever the republican is going to be the harder it will be to make that case in november. particularly because talking to
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republicans who have, you know, fought and lost along the way in the primary fight against trump, the feeling is because they didn't aggressively go after him earlier, early enough he who is a master marketer in his own right, was able to define himself before his opponents could define him. same goes for the democratic nominee, if it is hillary clinton, assuming it is hillary clinton, against donald trump. so that -- in that sense, there probably is a lot of frustration. the other side of that coin though, brooke, as you know, if she starts going after donald trump and she looks like she is, you know, kind of leaving the democratic primary in her rearview mirror and it's not done, she could potentially upset people who don't want her to look like she's got it all locked up when it's not entirely like that. so it is a very, very fine line she's got to walk. >> profess, let's say it's a
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huge night for donald trump and he wakes up tomorrow morning and it's all about hillary clinton and she's still fighting sand zblers this is what happens when you have a incumbent president who doesn't have a challenger and has this time to go after the democrats or the republicans. then you have a contest pride matter on the other side. what's surprising to everyone is it's a really contested primary on the democratic side. last week in michigan, people were very surprised. we might be surprised tonight in ohio. which means that secretary clinton has to keep fighting. one of the -- bit of good news for her i suppose is though sanders is polling her to the left, on trade issues, he's actually pulling her closer to donald trump. in one sense, trump and sanders have similar approaches to trade. not the same, but similar. this a big problem for clinton. the other problem for clinton is there's a passion gap. the sanders people are energized.
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they are out there. they care. and the obama constituency, the obama coalition you have to keep to win. you have to have is the obama coalition as a democrat to win in 2016. a large part of that coalition is pro-sanders. will secretary clinton be able to bring them over to her side once she defeats sanders? she's going to defeat him because of the superdelegates. what's important is she also wins the hearts and minds campaign for the obama coalition and she hasn't yet. >> amanda, on sanders as well, and the potential to tim's point of an upset. we saw the upset which is really truly psychological and helps him get more pennies, nickels and dimes, in michigan last week, maybe in ohio -- illinois -- where am i, geography, ohio and illinois tonight, forgive me, do you think that's a possibility for senator sanders? >> sure, i mean, the magic could happen for him and hillary clinton and bernie sanders would continue their debate, which in
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terms of trump, i don't think that hurts hillary. she can continue to have these serious discussions about trade and other things important to democrats. meanwhile, the never trump movement is going to continue. all she has to do is draft on that. look at that commercial of the women repeating the never things that trump has said. she doesn't have to put out an ad. she just has to say, yeah, i agree with that, and continue the serious conversation with bernie. think she's in a really good position to have it both ways. >> angela, finishing with you, what is the one thing that will surprise you the most on either side? >> well, i think in this race, the fact that hillary supporters have been saying throughout these midwest contests are serious and they're not as serious as folks have called them. we also didn't talk much about missouri but think there's a real contest there as well. think there's at least three surprises we can count on, on the democratic side tonight. >> angela rye, tim, dana bash, thank you so much.
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call it the revenge of the tea party, back in 2010 when marco rubio was wonning for florida senate seat, he was the party candidate of choice. fast forward to 2016 and many of those tea party supporters say rubio betrayed them and they're looking to embarrass them today in his home state presidential primary. with me now, dan ray, a founding member of the tea party group. it's a large retirement community in florida where senator rubio campaigned this week. dan, i see your t-shirt, time to pay the trump card. you're giving away who you're liking instead. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> all right, so you voted for rubio six years ago. today, you call him a tea party betrayer. how has he betrayed you
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specifically? >> well, he betrayed all the people of florida. he's got the worst attendance record in the senate in many, many years. but specifically, he really betrayed the people, many of us, across the state who worked diligently in 2010 to get him elected in the first place, and then at the turned around and chums up with diggy schumer and the rest of the gang of eight. we gave marco some chances. help has a great potential to be a good senator and he blew it. i don't know what he got kind of mesmerized by washington and the power maybe went to his head, i don't know, you have to ask him that, but he betrayed the grassroots people that really put him into office in the first place. >> so in the meantime, i take it you're taking your support from rubio, throwing it on to mr. trump. i see your trump t-shirt. i actually heard you say it's a
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trumptastic day. i understand you're 120% in favor of trump, you dipped to 110%. what happened to that 10%? >> i have loved him for years. i just said that kind of in jest. i started at 120%, now i'm down to 110% when they ask questions like on facebook. hello to all my facebook friends, by the way. but they, you know, they ask are you still supporting donald trump? i say yeah, i'm just down to 110% now, just kind of in just. >> you were joking. roger that. i do have to ask you as, you know, people are -- including the republican leader of senate who got on the phone with donald trump today, essentially saying, advising him to publicly disavow some of the violence as the rallies. mr. trump is a man who has offended, you know, half of this
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country, wants to ban muslims. he's also on the flip side supported the clintons, supports universal health care in the past, someone who said everything's negotiable. why can you forgive donald trump on some of his past but not marco rubio? >> i really don't have anything to forgive him for. i'm not his judge. he's not a perfect man. none of us are perfect. but you know what, he loves america. he's fighting for us to remain a sovereign nation. if we don't get control of our borders, if we don't restore our sovereignty at the border and stop the influx of illegal aliens. when the bathtub's always overflowing, you got to turn off the water before you can clean up the mess. and we have to protect our sovereignty. we don't want to be part of the new world order. we don't want to join the north american union. we want to be a band of 50 sovereign states. united states of america. >> what about ted cruz? what about ted cruz just quickly? mr. tea party, why aren't you supporting him? >> yeah, well, ted cruz was born
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on canadian soil to a cuban national. that's not the definition of a natural born citizen. and as articulated in the u.s. constitution. he, like marco rubio, and like barry sotoro are not eligible to be in the office of president, period, amen. >> okay, may not get an amen from me for that us because i believe his mother was an american -- >> a mother, by the way, who was registered to vote as a canadian at the time of his birth. that's not what our founding fathers had in mind to be the definition of a natural born citizen. >> okay. i haven't spoken to the founding fathers. dan ray, i appreciate your perspective, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> coming up next -- >> god bless -- >> thank you. coming up next, a 70-year-old woman who lost nearly everything including five family members in syria's civil
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five years ago, syria's bloody internal conflict erupted. today, this dismal anniversary coincides with the first day of a massive russian troop pullout from the war-ravaged region. the first fighter jets left today, 24 hours after president vladimir putin's surprise announcement ordering this withdraw. one area ravaged by syria's civil war aleppo, once the country's largest city, hustling bustling commercial hub there. cnn senior international correspondent clarissa ward and
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producer salma abdel asis went under cover into syria where virtually no journalists have gone for more than a year. they worked with a syrian filmmaker -- say it for me, clarissa. >> al adim. >> thank you. watch this. >> you tan tell when you're you're getting closer to aleppo. the streets are pock-marked with the aftermath of fresh air strikes. berms of earth protect the way from enemy fire. it's a dangerous way to a city few dare to visit. we have to drive extremely quickly along this portion of the road, because on one side, you have the regime, and on the other side, you have kurdish fighters who are now fighting against rebel forces. and there are snipers all around here, but this is the only road now to get into aleppo it as you
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arrive in the city, the scale of the destruction is breath-taking. stretching on and on. entire residential neighborhoods reduced to rubble. aleppo was once syria's largest city. a bustling economic hub. now an apocalyptic landscape. russian warplanes have bombed these areas relentlessly. allowing government ground forces to encircle the rebel-held eastern part of the city. still, we found pockets of life among the devastation. a fruit market huddled in the shadow of a bombed-out building. a line of people waiting patiently to collect water, now a precious resource here. this is basically what is left of rebel-held aleppo, after months and months of thousands
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of russian bombs raining down on here, the streets are largely deserted, the buildings have been destroyed, and the people, who once lived here, have been pushed out. and the very few residents who are still here, who we've spoken to, have told us that they don't expect the situation to get any better. in fact, they're convinced it will only get worse. 70-year-old suad has lived in this city for 40 years. her grandson farouk is a fighter with the islamist rebel group al ra asham. in all, nine members of her family have been killed in the fighting, including two of her three sons. >> translator: they all died on the front line. we raise our heads high for them. god willing, they are in paradise. >> reporter: what would it take for you to leave aleppo? >> translator: it is true there is shelling and russian planes
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and iranian militias and every day there is a massacre, but it is enough for us to express our religion and our faith as free people, not anyone's puppet. is it enough for us to fight as mujahadin and defend our honor and our women. >> translator: should we leave our country and go to another country? no. this is our country. and we will remain in this until we die. >> reporter: the people clinging on to life here feel the world has abandoned them, leaving them only with god. their existence becomes more precarious with every passing day, but surrender is unthinkable. >> clarissa is with me now. we saw the shot a minute ago of those children. what is it like for them there? >> it's actually difficult to describe. i think sometimes our cameras don't do justice to the devastation. because it's 360-degree devastation.
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most of the children -- you saw some of them, still living in that city. they don't have schools to go to. the supplies are limited. water, food, medical supplies. i spoke to one woman who told me she struggled every day with the decision of whether or not to send her daughter to school because on the one hand of course she wants to see her daughter get an education. on the other hand, every time she goes out of that door, she knows that she may not come back. we saw one school right in that area where we were filming in aleppo that have been blown to smithereens. you could still see the mangled remains of the desks that had been destroyed. >> the u.s. state department has taken note of your reporting here. i know the spokesperson, john kirky, spoke with christiane amanpour. here's part of what he shared. >> i saw clarissa's piece. and it's heart-rending to look at some of that footage. there's no question that it resulted in just horrific violence and the death and
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injury of so many innocent people. there's no way you can't look at a report like that and not feel it in your gut. we have been saying for a long time, since russia started ramping up their military activity, this it was absolutely unacceptable to be going after groups other than those of daesh and al neusra. >> the city aleppo, this hustling bustling commercial hub of syria, had truly been bombed for the past four years. >> that's right, there were four years of bombing from the assad regime before the russian intervention. so one can't blame russia solely. certainly it's fair to say the scale and the intensity of the firepower they brought to the fire has really been born out in that devastation you saw. >> we're looking at the picture. it's like 21st century ruins. whereas, just years ago, this
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was a major international commercial hub. >> this is what's so heartbreaking. most people will never know that aleppo, the aleppo of the old suks and winding roads and beautiful citadels. this is one of the most stunning cities on the face of the earth, vibrant, multicultural. and now, sadly, perhaps lost forever. >> we'll see you tomorrow, you have more for us. >> much more. >> much more. clarissa ward, please make sure you go to our website, we have much more of her reporting. incredible interactive feature here. 55 syrians share their stories of lost homes, lost lives and what they want the world to know after five years of a brutal war. please go. you can go to clarissa ward, thank you, we'll talk to you tomorrow. meantime, we switch back to u.s. politics. unless donald trump sweeps every state tonight, the possibility of a contested republican convention could be incredibly
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real come tomorrow, what will that look like, who sets the rules. we'll break it down with a presidential historian coming up next. why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis and a $200 savings card stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. theand the kids always eat sky their vegetables.e.
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it hasn't happened to the republicans in nearly 70 years, but a lot of folks are talking about the possibility of a contested order brokered convention this summer. if not a single one of the candidates gets the required number of delegates, that 1,237, you know, on that last ballot. the last time, june of 1948 in philadelphia. thank you cnn archive video for that. thomas dewy eventually won on the third go-around but beiof course, he did not win the white house. douglas brinkley is with me now. author of "rightful heritage, franklin d. roosevelt and the land of america." always a pleasure and an honor. what happens, just if no one gets 1,237 off the bat? >> i think it will matter how close donald trump gets.
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i think they have to give it to trump. but if he's 100 short or 150, i think it will become brokered -- you can pick your word. what will happen is people will vote and delegates will be able to switch after the first ballot. in 1976, people reagan almost d gerald ford and went to kansas city and it was like this, no one knew what would happen. if that happens, if somebody denies donald trump, i think there will be violence and craziness in cleveland because the trump people won't take that lightly. >> in cleveland, i keep reading about the all-important rules committee at the rnc, how they truly, they have everything, sort of in their hands who is the rules committee, and why do they wield so much power? >> because the republican party is just that, its its own entity. it's a privilege to get the nomination and set up a ground
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rule, the ground rule is you need that many delegates and nobody has that many delegates. there's plan b, and in many ways right now, i think the republican party is purposely trying to derail donald trump. and the point of tonight, if trump wins florida and ohio, as we all know, i think he's got this thing. but if he loses in ohio, and kasich, say, rubio stay in or cruz and kasich, it month muddies it up enough. they're worried about losing the brand i didn't to donald trump, the gop, a political party. they would lose it if trump got the nomination. >> explain how you got delegated married to a certain candidate based on which way a certain state wins but that can all be thrown out the window on second round. >> second round. >> that's the key. first round everybody plays the game, nobody has enough. but then do horse trading and horse swapping. what if cruz, kasich, rubio take all of the delegates, warp them into one, make a deal, one would be president, one vice
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president, perhaps, because you would say, look, trump doesn't have 50% of the republican party, he's got 35%. if the rest coalesce, there are more republicans anti-trump. i would call tonight anti-trump super tuesday. it's all about the anti-trump movement. i haven't seen an anti-movement in a party except with jimmy carter in 1976, anybody but carter. >> yeah and. >> and the last minute tried to throw frank church and jerry brown and the stop jimmy carter because the party apparatus didn't like him, but alat carter had enough delegated. >> could there be a stop trump movement, we talk about the whisperings in the wings of the brokered convention, who would throw out other potential names? it could go wild. >> it could. and that's why i think if trump, did this is the big day for donald trump. he needs a win in ohio. he done want do come out with
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just getting rid of rubio but have kasich in the midwest and taking delegates away from him. this is, i think, the big super tuesday. we'll know tonight whether i think it will go into brokered convention or not. this is the key night for folks to be watching. >> this is the night to watch. douglas brinkley, thank you very much. we'll be watching, perhaps into the wee hours, to be determined. what happens when the hottest show on broadway, have you seen this? "hamilton." i saw it off broadway. phenomenal. president obama helping him f e freesty freestyle. in the rose garden. that's how they roll. >> i'm freestylin'.
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>> the cast of the grammy award winning musical "hamilton" was a
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special guest of president obama and the first lady at white house. the best part when actor and creator and star actor freestyled in the rose garden with president obama. >> serious business right here. you know. >> are we in the rose garden right now? >> we are. this is the rose garden right here. must be nerve-racking. i hope i don't drop the cards. >> ready. >> ready? >> all set. >> all right. drop the beat. ♪ ♪ throwing up some words i'm going to say freestyling that you never heard constitution, potus i'm freestyling you know this obamacare ♪ ♪ the president was hopeless before jew you enacted the system hamilton wrote the 51 and greater its insane i'm freestyling down the line
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na nasa, i want to see if we can ♪ get over to mars and leave more bars and a carbon footprint ♪ ♪ and lower my emotions and this is freestyling congress transition i hope congress works to our agenda ♪ ♪ you really got a sense of yourself to create something ♪ ♪ we need a new justice for the supreme court my book report ♪ ♪ we got the job done so fun ♪ ♪ potus is holding up the signs. >> reporter: it's the oval office ♪ ♪ i can't believe i'm there opportunity nokds and i can't stop hime here with the president and my pops ♪ ♪ and, yo, the mike drops >> how good is that? >> that's -- you think that's going viral? that's going viral. >> yes, sir. >> i did see not those words prior. >> i did not see those words
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prior, he says. >> president obama says the musical "hamilton "is the only thing he and former vice president cheney agree on. stay with cnn all day coverage. super tuesday. there you very. brooke baldwin. "the lead" starts right now. it's decision day in six stated and territories. can donald trump deliver the knockout he promised? will bernie sanders score more upsett upsets? "the lead" starts right now. good afternoon, welcome to a special edition of "the lead." i'm jake tapper. super tuesday iii could be decision day on several fronts. 358 delegates at stake. 165 of them in the crucial winner take all state of ohio and florida. na


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