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welcome to saturday, and good morning. thank you for sharing your company with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor black well. we're starting with a live look at crowds. people already lining up to attend donald trump's rally in fountain hills, arizona. >> donald trump making the first of two stops in the state today. his pledge to build a wall along the u.s./mexico border a big issue among voters there. we'll speak to arizona sheriff joe arpaio in just a minute. >> reporter: good morning. we're here in fountain hills, arizona, where you've got already some people lining up to see donald trump this morning. this is the home of sheriff joe arpaio, the immigration hard
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liner who endorsed donald trump several months ago. donald trump surely is expected to talk about that. i'm sure sheriff arpaio is likely to make an appearance here as well, given that we're in fountain hills, his hometown. >> do we have any idea what exactly the sheriff will be doing that other than facilitating the security? >> reporter: we don't know exactly, but sheriff joe arpaio has gone on the campaign trail with donald trump several times, beginning in new hampshire, that's where he initially endorsed him. he stumped with him several times. immigration is one of the key planks of course of donald trump's foreign policy. he's talked about building a wall on the border between the u.s. and mexico and making mexico pay for it, of course. and he's also talked about deporting millions of undocumented immigrants living in the united states back to where they came from, so their home countries. of course sheriff joe arpaio has
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been an immigration hard liner for several years now. he's also known for being tough on crime as well. he has one of his prisons here where he was prisoners wear pink uniforms and makes them live in tents. it's one of the key parts of his tough stance on crime. and certainly donald trump is going to try and tack on to that as he tries to gain support here in arizona. >> jeremy diamond, thank you so much for bringing us the latest there. let's talk to donald trump supporter maricopa county sheriff joe arpaio by phone. sheriff joe, we appreciate it. i understand you'll be on stage with donald trump today. what will you be doing? >> i think we have a town hall in about an hour. but then we'll be going to fountain hills, which happens to be my hometown, and have a rally. this happens to be the third rally in the phoenix area we've done. this is a rally, i've been to
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several of them around the country. and he has a chance to talk about what he's going to do for america. i usually introduce him and he carries the ball. >> we know there will be a lot of protestors there. you probably already saw the pictures. and probably out in that area already seeing who is gathering. but we know that the protestors are really angry about trump's immigration proposals, including his proposal to ban muslims from entering the u.s. what kind of force do you have in place today? what are you ready for? >> well, first of all, by chance this is a town that we do the police work. there's no police department. they contract with the sheriff's office. so we'll be in full charge and control to protect the people of
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that town and also make sure we protect trump and everybody else around that area involved in this situation. so, you know, i feel comfortable that we can handle the situation and we'll do the best we can. and anybody that violates the law is going to jail. very simple. >> kyung lah talked with you earlier this week, and you told me that the people of arizona have been waiting for someone like trump. why do you believe that's the one that can make a wall happen? >> i'm trying to hear. what was that? >> why do you believe that donald trump is the one that can make a wall happen along the mexico border? and why do you think he's the one that can make mexico pay for it? >> well, if you're asking why i have confidence in him, i met him for the first time when he was here for the first, you
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know, meeting and forum, rally. and i liked what he said. and my gut told me he's the type of guy we need now. i've been the honorary chairman for other presidential candidates. but for him, it was something different. i support him. i was in iowa for him two weeks ago. i like what he says. i believe he's going to follow through on his promises, especially on the illegal immigration situation that's facing our nation and has been here for years and years. nobody wants to do anything about it. all you hear is talk from the politicians. so maybe at least this time around something like be done about it. but in any event, if he doesn't get elected, which i'm sure he will, at least he opened the door to start talking about it.
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every candidate running for president has to talk about it. and so now we're back talking about illegal immigration on this cycle. so i have to thank him for keeping the interest going on this illegal immigration problem. >> all the candidates certainly are talking about it. and bernie sanders was in flagstaff recently, and he talked about you. he said, it's easy for bullies like sheriff arpaio to pick on people that have no power. if i'm elected president, the president of the united states does have power, watch out your joe. what is your reaction to that and what do you think he meant? >> well, i don't know if he's threatening me. i do know a hundred days after president obama and attorney general holder took office, they started a civil rights investigation against me. that was seven years ago. so what is he threatening, to put the power of government against me if he takes office?
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or is it more than that? i don't know. it doesn't bother me what he says, he's not going to get elected anybody. because i took his wife on a tour, which i've taken four presidential candidates on a tour in the past, i got some press out of this, so they're angry at the wife going through there. what about hillary? she's doing campaign commercials in spanish, using me and trump in those commercials. i guess both sides are using us. but that's okay. the more the merrier. >> you just mentioned something that i believe happened by happen stastanc happenstance, you ended up meeting jane sanders and took her on a tour of tent city, your jail. what was your conversation with her? >> first of all, i knew she was going to be in front of the tents, which, by the way, i
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operate. it's my territory. i was having a press conference recruiting citizens, private citizens for my armed volunteer posse. and right down the street she was gathering at the front of our fence, the tents, looking in there, with all the media. so i walked up to her. and i said, how are you doing? i introduced myself. she's a very nice lady. she was complaining about what she heard. i said, what about a tour? we went on a tour inside. i didn't hide anything. she could talk to all the inmates. we had a lot of conversation. she thought they were all in there before they were sentenced. a lot of things she didn't know. she didn't like the heat and how we feed the inmates. she talked to all the inmates. what's wrong with that? they're making a big deal because i got media attention because of her. that's pretty sad. i'm sure that her husband told her what to say after.
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so that's it. anybody who wants to tour the tents, i don't care who they are, they always come through. >> okay. well, i wanted to ask you one more thing about what's happening today. politico, i know that you had an interview with politico earlier, sheriff, you said, here i'm going to wearing to hats, you're in charge of the security in the town, you're also participating with trump in the rally, and you said, it's going to be a lot of fun taking care of business there. what business specifically? i guess what did you mean by a lot of fun taking care of business? >> who said that? >> you said it in politico. >> i didn't say that. i said a lot of fun for what? >> you said it would be a lot of fun taking care of business, meaning the two hats that you're wearing today, just wondering what you meant by that. >> oh, okay. what i meant on that is i happen to be introducing trump, which i
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do in every rally, it wasn't just here, it was in vegas and iowa, and here it is. the fun is that i live right there. the fun is that i can see my house, where the rally is. the other fun, if you want to call it that, i can a you will challenge, we have the police department there. here i am in one hat, supporting the candidate for president, and the other hat is, i'm also in charge of the police, all the work there that law enforcement and everything in that town. so i'm kind of wearing two hats. so i don't know what you mean by "fun." i can see my house from the park where the rally is taking place. >> all righty. sheriff joe, thank you so much for taking time with us. i know that it's early there today. we're certainly wishing you the best, for maybe some calm rally
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and a lot of good information coming out of it. another live picture of a lot of protestors, will a hundred already showing up. and we'll see how that continues to progress throughout the day. >> we know that donald trump has made the wall between the u.s. and mexico a key part of his policy. but there are still many questions that people have about other elements. foreign policy especially, to help get some answers let's bring in steven miller, a donald trump senior policy adviser. steven, good to have you back with us. >> hey, it's great to be here, thank you. >> so on msnbc early this week here is what donald trump said about his foreign policy and when asked who he speaks with. he said, quote, i'm speaking with myself, number one, because i have a very good brain and i've said a lot of things. that's a quote. if he is his primary foreign policy adviser and he's relying on his good brain and the things he's said, what's your role? what do you offer and what does
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he accept? >> i'm a little bit amused at the amount of attention that comment has gotten, because of course donald trump is going to rely upon his own judgment and instincts as president of the united states. and he's shown extraordinary judgment on the major foreign policy issues of our time. he talked about the threat of osama bin laden before 9/11 when nobody in washington was paying attention to it. he was an early critic of the iraq war long before many in the republican party realized the error of the iraq war. and he has consistently been ahead of the curve on these major foreign policy issues. donald trump's corps -- core instinct is to be cautious. >> in addition to core instinct, the question is what type of
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advice does he accept. you're his foreign policy adviser. how and on what issues do you advise him? >> donald trump is being advised regularly. he's in fact tapped my former boss, u.s. senator jeff sessions, to assemble a foreign policy advisory committee. senator sessions, who has been for 20 years on the armed services committee, meets every day with intelligence experts, foreign policy experts, and advising mr. trump on those conversations and on the meetings and helping put mr. trump in contact with experts from a wide range of fields affecting america's foreign policy and defense. >> okay. so when will we hear donald trump's view on foreign policy? i've candidate who has been in the race has given a foreign policy address, a speech speaking specifically about their views on foreign policy. when will we hear that from donald trump? >> of course on monday night you'll hear a speech at aipac
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detailing his middle east policy. we're all looking forward to that. he's been clear about his foreign policy doctrine throughout this campaign. it's ted cruz who i think has confused everybody, because it's not clear where ted cruz wants to go to war and why. ted cruz said he wanted to push russia out of syria. how is he going to do that? are we going to get into a military conflict with russia? are we going to shoot down russian airplanes? will we enforce a no-fly zone? it's that kind of thinking that's got the u.s. trapped into these foreign conflicts and weakening our standing in the world. >> do we have the sound bite about isis and russia? okay, we don't have that. >> i'm happy to talk about isis and russia. >> let me put to you what donald trump said over a period of time. back in september donald trump said that he has good instinct
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on isis and what should be done there. he then suggested that russia should take them out, that it shouldn't be the u.s.'s fight. he said that he knows more than the generals, and then recently said that he would listen to the generals and probably put in 20 to 30,000 troops. so he's been on several sides of this issue. should he not come out as other candidates have and give a foreign policy address and just articulate his views on american foreign policy? >> donald trump has been talking about foreign policy every single day. i'm not sure what address specifically you're looking for. but it's mr. trump and only mr. trump who has been clear, in changing america's foreign policy from one of nation building and trying to plant democracies in the middle east to a national interest foreign policy that focuses on shared goals with our allies in the middle east and across the world. and mr. trump, again, has been clear that unlike the other candidates, he's not willing to start a hot conflict with russia
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over syria, which would be crazy. i just find it amazing that there's actually people running for president who think it's a good idea to try and push russia out of syria at the possibility of starting a war with russia. that is extremely dangerous. it's irresponsible. and the american people, republican, democrat, independent, are going to embrace a more responsible foreign policy with a military second to none but no more wars that we can't get out of. >> stephen miller, foreign policy adviser to donald trump, thanks so much for being with us. you can hear more from the candidates themselves, maybe donald trump will talk more about foreign policy when he is one of the five candidates who will be with anderson cooper and wolf blitzer on monday at 8:00. we'll hear from the five candidates, they'll all be interviewed, monday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on
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killed when the flydubai flight burst into fire while trying to land. officials say this is the moment of impact. cn cannot confirm the authenticity of this video. what you're looking at here is the circling that the airplane did above the airport for quite some time, up to two hours, because of bad weather. this attempted landing was the second attempted landing. russian president vladimir putin expressed his condolences to the families of the victims. new details on the paris capture in belgium.lam, his - moments ago his lawyer spoke with reporters saying they'll fight his extradition to france. >> translator: he's collaborating with the belgian justice system and in one hour will be back in terms of the
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look at the line in fountain hills, arizona. at least they have a beautiful view to look at when they stand there for the next several hours. those are all people lining up to see donald trump. the event is scheduled to get under way in a few hours so they do have a long wait ahead of them. and they do have protestors, many in arizona are upset about the verbiage trump uses, immigration being one of the big issues for folks in arizona on both sides of the issue. this primary season not going the way the republican party envisioned a year ago.
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ever since donald trump entered the race, he's defied all expectations, crushing his opponents in many areas. the gop establishment laying awake at night, fearing mr. trump will win the nomination. now they're looking to the convention as the last, maybe best chance to stop him. i want to read out something mitt romney spelled out on facebook last night. he said the only path is to have an open convention at this stage. the only way we can reach an oop convention is for senator cruz to be successful in as many of the remaining nominating elections as possible. i will vote for senator cruz and i encourage others to do so as well so we can have an open convention and nominate a republican. trent duffy, a former white house press secretary, now national spokesman for ohio governor john kasich, trent, good morning to you. there's something that stood out inside statement that i think caught a lot of us, kind of got our ears perked up here.
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romney didn't say vote for cruz so we can nominate cruz. he said, so we can nominate a republican. is this a strategy you think that he's leaving open to go to a contested convention and nominate someone else? >> well, you'll have to ask governor romney that question. you know, he's been changing his mind a lot. he was happy to campaign with john kasich in ohio, we appreciate that support. but going forward, christi, what needs to take place is people need to vote. there's 1,079 delegates left to be selected by the nomination process. john kasich is going to compete in all those states and can do very well in the midwest and northeast. the fact of the matter is donald trump and ted cruz cannot win a general election. the polls show they would get beaten and beaten badly by hillary clinton. so the party process has a chance to play itself out, and the people have a chance to decide who they want to best represent the republican party.
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there are polls out this week that show that of course kasich is going to win in ohio in november and he wins in other swing states like pennsylvania and new hampshire. so that's the process that's playing out. it's interesting, and there's lots of twists and turns. >> it's interesting, but mathematically, when you look at the numbers, trent, your candidate, john kasich, just does not have a chance with the delegates at this point to get enough for the nomination itself. is he banking on a contested convention that might elevate him to that goal? >> sure, christi, none of the three candidates is going to reach that 1,237 magic number that we all keep talking about. and the rules were designed to work that way. it didn't say if you get close to 1237, you get the nomination. it says you have to have a majority. nobody is going to reach that mark. the open convention is almost inevitable. that's a process where all the trump delegates, cruz delegates, will have a chance to get together and decide who they
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best feel represents the platform and the ideals of the party. >> a lot of people look at these numbers and wonder why kasich is still running. this takes a lot of money, a lot of money invested, a lot of people invested, a lot of time invested. what would it take for him to drop out, or is he holding on to the convention to see what happens? >> governor kasich with running because he cares about the united states of america. he's the best person to be the president of the united states. he spent 18 years in congress, balanced budgets, cut taxes, got america moving again, served on the armed services committee. ronald reagan's national security adviser is his foreign policy expert. the former nsa chief michael hayden just this week said that he was the best person to take on some of our national security challenges. so he's running for the good of the country, because he can bring our country together. so what it's going to take is he's going to go to the convention and let the people decide. >> you look at the numbers, though, and you have to think there must be some sort of strategy. what is mr. kasich saying,
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governor kasich, about this unity strategy that is being talked about in political circles? teaming up with cruz, in a sense, some people win this side of the mississippi, some win the other side of the mississippi, just to try to keep trump from continuing to get so many more of those delegates. >> i think that makes for good reporting and good, you know, horse race politics and the like. but the strategy is to win the nomination. that's -- >> so you haven't had conversations about that? >> no, not at all. not at all. it's interesting that people keep trying to pin the establishment label on governor kasich when it seems to me that the establishment is now starting to swing towards senator cruz. but the fact of the matter is senator cruz cannot win in a general election. and it's not just the white house that we lose in that sort of scenario, we also lose the senate, we lose the supreme court, and we have, you know, real challenges. and we have a divided country. over the course of the next
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several months, in several states that are yet to have primaries, people will get a chance to see all three candidates. john kasich hasn't had a chance to talk about what he did in ohio. he's going to get that chance, and he deserves it. >> trent duffy, thanks for being here. still to come, a bill waiting on the georgia governor's desk is being slammed for discriminating against same sex couples. will the governor sign it? sease? one. wishful thinking, right? but there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease. pneumococcal pneumonia. if you are 50 or older, one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain, difficulty breathing, and may even put you in the hospital. even if you have already been vaccinated with another pneumonia vaccine, prevnar 13® may help provide additional protection.
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coming up on the quarter hour now, let's focus on georgia and a religious freedom bill that has passed the state legislature. >> opponents say it discriminates against same-sex couples. we're wondering what the next step is. >> this is a battle that's been brewing at least two years. it passed both chambers of the state legislature, and now the governor, governor nathan deal, has at least a month to decide whether or not he's going to sign it. he's hinted that he won't. but many people, including the man you're about to meet in this piece, are worried that he will. >> reporter: calvin williams is angry. the small business owner says a proposed georgia law, the so-called religious liberty bill, will ruin opportunities for his telecommunications business and discriminate against many others like him. williams is gay. >> it's going to protect anybody
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who feels like discriminating. but i don't see where he's actually going to protect anybody from being discriminated against. >> reporter: after nearly a two-year battle, house bill 757 passed both chambers of the georgia legislature. if signed into law by the governor, it would protect faith-based organizations who do not hire or host gays and lesbians because of their religious beliefs. as written, it will provide a claim or defense to persons whose religious exercise is substantially burdened by government. >> the only discrimination i see going forward is if the governor refuses to sign this bill. >> reporter: senator mike crane is one of the bill's most adamant supporters. he too is a small business owner. and is currently running for u.s. congress. >> there's an undermining of religious freedom in this nation. the christian community in particular is really the group that's going to end up being discriminated against if the states don't stand up and say this liberty is important. >> reporter: if georgia's bill
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sounds familiar, it's because it is. in 2014, arizona legislatures made an attempt at a religious restoration act. after an intense pressure from@he lfrom from@ -- from athletic organizations and others, it failed. in 2015, it was indiana's term. after much debate, governor mike pence signed it into law. supporters like this small business owner were thrilled. >> i think it protects me from the government forcing me to do something that's against my will. >> reporter: the governor later signed a revised bill which prevents discrimination against anyone because of their sexual orientation. atlanta is currently bidding to host the 2019 super bowl. opponents to the bill say hb 757
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will limit the state's chances at attracting organizations like the nfl. >> it will have a significant impact on our business. i think it will have significant impact on other businesses in the state. >> reporter: how much money are you talking? >> i think it could be as much as $6 billion. and it might be $3 billion. >> reporter: governor deal has until may to decide if he'll sign the bill into law. if he does not, for calvin williams, the answer for how to deal with it is simple. in a symbolic gesture this week, his business of 20 employees reincorporated in delaware. he says he may be leaving the state too. >> i'm in the process of talking to a realtor and, you know, looking at selling my house and packing up and leaving. >> we mentioned the religious liberty bills in the states of arizona and indiana. this one in georgia is a little different, it focuses solely on faith-based organizations,
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things like religious schools, institutions, churches, not businesses. but the visitors bureau says it could have a disastrous impact on the state including investors like the nfl. the nfl released a statement which read, "nfl policies emphasize tolerance and inclusiveness and prohibit discrimination based on age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other improper standard." victor, christi? >> nick valencia, thanks so much. hillary clinton continues to fight off bernie sanders in the primary. that has not cooled down at all. some of her supporters question whether this drawn-out battle hurts her as she turns toward the general election, if she's the nominee. plus can she match the success of sanders with a key
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the math may be difficult for bernie sanders. but he says he's staying in the race to win it, staying until the end. now according to the "new york times," president obama has weighed in.
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speaking privately to a group of texas donors, those that attended described an urgency in mr. obama's tone as he suggested that democrats needed to come together and prevent an opening for the republicans whose leading candidate is donald j. trump to exploit. let's talk about that. democratic congressman tim ryan of ohio, good to have you. you're a hillary clinton supporter, right? >> yes, sir. >> all right, congressman. let's start there with what we heard from the "times" there about the president's conversations. are you concerned that this longer primary going all the way to the convention, as we're hearing from the sanders folks, is helping or hurting, potentially, hillary clinton? >> i think there's always a general anxiousness to want to wrap up a primary. but i think, you know, bernie sanders has made an amazing contribution to this race, and he's bringing up issues that people really care about and are very passionate about, and ultimately that decision is up to him as to when he makes any
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decision. i mean, the math is working itself out, after a huge tuesday with winning new york and illinois and missouri and north carolina and florida, the delegate math is really in hillary clinton's favor. if bernie sanders wins 60-40 in california, new york, and pennsylvania, he's still going to have a huge, huge gap that's almost impossible to make up. but i love bernie sanders, i think he's made a great contribution to this race. he continues to make a great contribution. at the end of the day, that's his decision and his supporters' decision to make, when to get out of the race. >> donald trump is escalating his attacks on hillary clinton. is hillary clinton's campaign, are they making the mistake that so many gop primary candidates made by overestimating the amount of time they have or need to effectively prosecute the case against donald trump? >> well, i think donald trump is
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prosecuting the case against himself. i mean, just put this guy on air. i mean, my goodness gracious, he's doing it all by himself. >> but he's winning. >> well, he's winning the republican primary, and he's alienating everyone else in the country. and he's put himself in a real box. and, you know, people are out there raising kids and wanting more civility in the political process. they look at him and are repulsed by what he's doing. he's doing a pretty good job on his own of alienating republicans, independents, and obviously some democrats as well. look, i trust hillary clinton. i trust her to help our community. i trust her to help ohio and resuscitate manufacturing in the united states. if she continues to focus on her message about her economic plan, to develop technologies, to help millennials get back into the workforce. these are great plans.
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she just needs to stay focused on that and let donald trump continue to hang himself. >> you say that donald trump is winning the republican primary, but he's not doing well with other groups. he is doing well in one group that hillary clinton is not, that's white men. the five contests from super tuesday iii is what we're calling it, look at the numbers, she lost in her home state of ohio, white men by 5 points. north carolina, 22. missouri, she lost them by 23. i wonder, as donald trump is doing so well with white men, especially in rust belt states, and hillary clinton appears to have this weakness, are you concerned moving toward the general that a group that she won in 2008 is not going to support her moving forward in the general election? >> no, i'm not concerned at all. i've lived and worked and represented northeast ohio for
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the last 14 years in congress. i'm not concerned. here's two reasons why. first of all, when people hear about the white working class folks in my region, hear about hillary clinton's manufacturing plan, they're going to be very excited about what the potential is for our area and what can happen in our area. the second piece is, when people find out, when white working class union members find out that donald trump thinks they're making too much money, that he supports right to work legislation, which would gut their ability to negotiate a good wage and benefits for themselves, his numbers are going to tank. we've not even turned the spotlight from the democratic side onto him. once they find out his standing will drop significantly. >> we're coming up on the end of the show. thank you so much, congressman tim ryan, for joining us. we'll learn more from the candidates on monday when they sit down with wolf blitzer. we'll be right back with fredericka whitfield after the break. >> thanks for your company.
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good morning, everyone. thanks for joining me. i'm fredericka whitfield. the 2016 presidential race is shifting to the west. in three days republican and democratic voters hit the polls in arizona and utah while republicans caucus in idaho. donald trump in a few hours will hold a rally in phoenix. he's made immigration a key issue, and in fact a real lightning rod issue. and it's a big issue in arizona. the controversial sheriff joe arpaio, who was known for his tough policies on illegal immigration, is hosting trump and has endorsed him for president. just last night trump was in salt lake city and stirred up more controversy there, trump slamming one oe

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