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i used to like that song. just past 9:00 p.m. here in washington where the state department has issue add new terror warning, early morning in brussels after twin terror attacks. intelligence and counterterrorism agencies in both places working around the clock. now, they are trying to turn the security camera image from brussels' main airport into something actionable. something that might help them catch the fugitive on the right and unravel what authorities believe the two on the left did setting off explosive devices in the airport. one of two attacks. the other about an hour later at a crowded subway station in the middle of the belgium capital killing at least 20 people. isis claiming responsibility. intelligence officials are as a working theory tieing it to the same cell or larger group that carried out the paris massacres. as we said, there's new information on the search for who was behind the attacks
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today. a number of u.s. officials telling us belgian authorities have shared the names of several suspects with their american counterparts. those names, these officials say, are being run through databases of suspected or known terrorists. one u.s. official says the belgians are looking for at least three people who may be associated with the bombings and this new state department warning. elise labott joins us with the latest on that. the state department just released the warning of threats potentially facing americans traveling in europe. what are they saying? >> that's right, anderson. in the wake of the attacks, state department now warning americans that terrorist groups are planning near-term attacks throughout europe, targeting sporting events, tourist sites, restaurants, and transportation. when they say near-term attacks, that suggests these attacks could be in their final stages of planning so it's pretty remarkable for the state department, anderson, to issue a warning of this nature for europe essentially urging americans in europe to hunker down and avoid these type of public spaces.
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i just spoke to a senior state department official about the decision to issue this kind of rare warning. official said, look, we know isis is on the loose, we know they've been planning attacks, and we have a responsibility to warn americans to take necessary precautions. no credible or specific attack about a particular place or country, but there have already been attacks in france, turkey, and now belgium. so they're not ruling any country in europe out, anderson. >> as the weather improves, spring and summer in europe, a lot of americans head there. what do we know about the status of americans injured or missing during the brussels attack? >> we know about six americans that have been injured. we know a lieutenant air force colonel who was detailed to nato and members of his family were injured. we also know about four mormon missionaries who were from utah. now, three of them sustained serious injuries. one of them minor injuries. we don't know of any fatalities
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yet but the state department very hesitant to issue any final numbers because the numbers are widely fluctuating. i'm told by officials there are several americans they're trying to find, several missing americans, families desperate to find them and so that's why they don't want to issue any final numbers yet. that's why, anderson, when they issue this travel warning, they put a caveat, very important to americans in europe to register with their local embassy, keep in touch with their families, because if there's any emergencies they want to make sure they can get to any americans who need help. >> elise labott, thanks very much. more on the search and the forensic work which is still under way at that apartment in a brussels neighborhood that authorities raided earlier today. that is where our fred pleitgen is joining us now. explain where you are. you're outside the apartment where the forensic teams in the last hour were still working. is that still going on? >> reporter: yeah, that is still going on. in fact, i think what we can do,
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we're going to pan up to the building where this is going on. in fact, the forensic work, anderson, appears to have expanded somewhat. last time we were speaking it was going on in the top floor of the building. it's now also going on on the third floor. we saw some police officers go through both the floors of that building. we saw, again, camera flashes as though they were photographing something. we saw also police officers going through there with spotlights. what i also saw in the past hour or so, a lot of police officers coming out of that building carrying a lot of paper bags with anything that could be some sort of evidence and loading it onto vehicles like, for instance, the one that you see right here. there's also time and again forensic officers going to those vehicles and, again, combing through that area. this is, of course, apparently the apartment from which those three people who were seen on that cc-tv video and also on that picture, that's where they departed to the airport from. and so many believe that this is also where a potential bomb
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factory could have been. this is also the place where the authorities found a nail bomb, chemicals, as well as an isis flag and that's one of the reasons, of course, why they are now conducting these searches. the latest that we're getting is they say what we're seeing right now happening here is probably going to continue throughout the night. this raid took place fairly shortly after the attacks took place around 3:00 p.m., 4:00 p.m. local time so only about, i'd say about four hours after the attacks. so very pinpointed the authorities found this building and raided it. >> and they were able to get there relatively quickly because of a tip off from a cab driver, is that right? >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly right. that's quite remarkable because apparently the cab driver that picked up the three gentlemen from this area right here, he said they were loading a lot of suitcases into the cab, they said they had so much stuff they had to leave one suitcase behind which is apparently the one that later the nail bomb was found. and then he took them to the airport and as they were unloading the cab, they refused
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to allow him to help them unload their suitcases. apparently he told the authorities he was then driving away, he saw these pictures that were released of those three suspicious people at the airport, immediately recognized them and then called the authorities which then allowed them to very quickly make out this area here in schaerbeek which is also the area that was apparently a site of a bomb-making factory creating explosive used in the paris attacks in november. there was a big police operation going on here, anderson, for a while. there was a helicopter flying around this building right here with a sniper from inside that helicopter taking aim at this building. so the authorities obviously very, very serious taking no risks as they were getting into the premises here and now searching it as well. >> fred pleitgen, appreciate it, fred. a lot more to talk about now. joining us, cnn global affairs analyst "daily beast" contributing writer kimberly dozier, paul cruickshank, cnn intelligence and security
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analyst, former cia officer bob baer, cnn contributor michael weiss also of "the daily beast" and author of "isis inside the army of terror." paul, it's clear there's more than one person authorities are looking for at this point. there's no doubt this is more people involved. >> this is a broader cell, a broader network linked to isis, part of isis which are operates in brussels which operated in brussels and in belgium to hatch the paris attacks. they're looking for a number of individuals related to those paris attacks including a potential bomb-maker who is believed to have made those devices in a bomb factory in that very same schaerbeek district. >> that bomb maker is still out there. >> he's still out there. it's possible he's an individual called najim laachraoui.
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now, he was one of the senior conspirators in the paris attacks. >> one of the people contacted by the attackers prior to, perhaps during. >> exactly. communicating by text message. by phone with the three attack teams in paris as they carried out those attacks that night. his dna was found in that bomb factory in schaerbeek. as they're doing the forensics tonight if they match his dna to this device that they found today, that would be confirmation that he's the bomb maker and that is a very worrying thing, indeed, because if you got an experienced isis operative, a bomb maker on the loose in brussels, all he needs is willing candidates to equip them to launch more attacks and there are plenty of those these days. >> kimberly, you were just in brussels. >> the other disturbing thing is they knew this was coming. the belgian foreign minister told the conference i was at which is partly about terrorism this week that in questioning
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the paris fugitive who'd just been arrested that they found out he had a new wider network, he had plans for future violent attacks, and they were out there looking for anyone connected to him and yet they didn't find this plot. >> so even while he was on the run, the subject for this massive manhunt in which belgium has said, look, there were more than 100 raids over the last several months, this guy salah abdeslam was out there planning something else. >> he had heavy weapons gat gathered, he had gathered what they say is a new network of willing participants. they just didn't get to them in time. as i got to the airport yesterday, i'd seen increased security around the places you'd expect in the center of the city, around tourist spots, around major hotels but there was no security from the point where the taxi drops you off to get to the ticket counters. so the terrorists know this, too, they went for a soft target. >> michael, today's attack, i mean, it's more likely it was
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conceived and directed from operatives there in belgium or by isis officials actually in iraq or in syria because in the wake of the paris attacks, isis did release videos that were made of the paris attackers beheading hostages in i believe it was syria or iraq. i can't remember for sure. >> right. and the conspicuous absence in that propaganda was of salah abdeslam, the tenth attacker who either, i mean at the time we all thought maybe he chickened out or perhaps his suicide belt just didn't detonate so he kind of repaired back to his isis network inside europe but there was also an accusation he could have been in ill odor with isis because he failed to fulfill his martyrdom duties or you recall, anderson, reports after the paris attacks, "sunday times" european news outlets were reporting salah abdeslam was seen frequenting a gay district in brussels, might have been a closet homosexual and could have completely exposed him to isis.
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this seems to be mythology. it's very, very clear he was still on active isis operative. as paul and others have pointed out, he was equipped with a kalashnikov when they raided his safe house. he was holed up with a senior isis operative coordinating the paris attacks in realtime from brussels over the phone using, you know, telecommunications. the guy was very clearly still a going agent of the caliphate on european soil so absolutely, i talked to jean charles broussard who today told me belgium nationals, 535 of them have gone over to syria, many of them joining isis. of that figure, 200 have returned to belgium. belgium is a little over the size of the population of london. to takes 20 to 25 counterterrorism officials to track one single terrorist
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operative who is suspect. so you can imagine the amount of personnel and manpower that has gone into trying to do this drag net throughout the country. >> bob, it's interesting, salah abdeslam, we know he didn't fulfill any -- didn't detonate a suicide vest in the paris attacks. then when he was apprehended, he was running away. he basically literally ran through authorities, ran through law enforcement and tried to run away until he was shot, i believe, in the leg and that's when he was apprehended. it's interesting to me that he didn't attempt to die in this operation, die before being captured when other people he was with, in particular, this guy who's believed to have been the coordinator of the paris attacks, did die in a shootout providing covering fire for abdeslam and one other person to get away. >> well exactly, anderson. i think he was ambiguous about jihad and martyrdom and the rest of it and couldn't be counted on but the islamic state won't
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exclude you because of that because people do sign up for operations and others don't. he may have, what we consider, chickened out but he was still part of a network. still part of -- his family supported him apparently and his friends in brussels so he was still a key element. you know, as far as direction from raqqah, from the islamic state's capital, we're just guessing on a lot of this because these people are staying off the phones, and for so long we've relied on intercepts and chatter to figure out what these groups are but the real problem is we can't get into the mentality, we don't, the belgium police, cia, no one has decent sources inside these networks so a lot of what we talk about is just guesswork. >> kim, how big of a failure is this for belgium intelligence? if, in fact, this group is linked to the group in paris which seems increasingly likely, the fact after months of m manhunts, dozens, if not hundreds of raids in belgium alone, this larger cell was able
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to continue operations is extraordinary. >> look, the belgian intelligence agency is understaffed, overworked. they have been caught at a standing start and they're trying to catch up with building networks through this community that they haven't spent a lot of time doing intelligence collection in. and when you go there, just was there on saturday night, you can feel there's a sense of sort of confrontation. >> you're talking about neigh r neighborhoods like molen beck? >> molenbeek. between police and officials. belgian officials lament, we don't know that community well. intelligence officials outside of belgium, they'll say, look, privacy laws keep them from doing a lot of things we need to be doing. that's why the british intelligence services, for instance, were actually listening to the communications in belgium and helping, but they had to stop because of edward snowden revelations. >> interesting. a lot more ahead tonight.
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kimberly dozier, paul baer, michael weiss. paul cruickshank is going to stick around. a stark reminder as kimberly just said, airports, train stations incredibly vulnerable. we'll get the latest on efforts to protect locations. plus how all of this is affecting the presidential campaign, why you saw a picture there of donald trump. he responded vigorously to this this morning. senator ted cruz, kasich, all the presidential candidates, hillary clinton, bernie sanders all came forward with statements about the attack. more on that ahead. audi pilotless vehicles have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the new audi a4. with one notable difference... the all-new audi a4, with available traffic jam assist.
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welcome back. our breaking news that we're covering tonight, the state department warning that terror groups may launch more attacks on other so-called soft targets throughout europe and might do it soon. consequently, american travelers are now being urged to be vigilant in public places and when taking public transportation. the belgian attacks have sparked a show of force in locations across the united states tonight. rene marsh has the latest. >> reporter: tonight, u.s. cities nationwide are on heightened alert. new york city is stepping up its police and national guard presence. high visibility anti-terrorist patrols can be seen in the subway system where officers are checking bags for explosives. signs at new york's penn station alert passengers about random checks and the city's three major airports have heightened security as well. >> expect to see extraordinary nypd presence out over the coming days as a sign of our readiness to protect people at all times.
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>> reporter: airports in cities across the country including atlanta, boston, chicago, miami, and los angeles, are also ramping up their security presence. police chief patrick gannon oversees l.a.x., one of the busiest airports in the world. >> we never want to be predictable. we always feel that if you're predictable, you're vulnerable. >> reporter: so-called soft targets like train stations and u.s. airports have long been a security concern. areas like passenger drop-off, airline ticket counters, baggage claim, and all other areas before the security checkpoint are potentially susceptible. >> we employ our own intel analysts that provide us with airport-specific and transportation-system-specific information that helps us in our daily deployment of our officers. >> reporter: in the nation's capital, bomb-sniffing dogs and s.w.a.t. can be seen on patrol. >> the canines that are stationed here are trained, i think they're the best in the
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country. >> reporter: amtrak police are conducting random bag checks, an ongoing show of force around the country. >> rene, has there actually been credible threats toward u.s. soft targets or other targets? >> reporter: well, the federal government, anderson, saying that at this point, they have no credible threats, however, the federal government announcing today that tsa will be launching these specialized teams at both airports and train stations across the country. these teams will have bomb-sniffing dogs as well as special advance screening technology. anderson? >> rene marsh, thanks very much. lots to discuss. joining us again cnn terrorism analyst, paul cruickshank. cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem who formerly served as assistant to homeland security. and former chair of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers. pa paul cruickshank, increased security of the so-called soft
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targets, it's very difficult to cover the wide range of kind of targets we've seen attacked in paris, whether it's a concert hall, outdoor cafes, even an airport like this. >> yeah, the airport in brussels not really being particularly a soft target because they ratcheted up security, there were military personnel patrolling the area outside the airport. the area inside the terminal and the departures hall and they managed to get through despite this even though it was a hardened target. but, of course, somewhere like an airport or a concert venue or a metro, you can't protect all these public spaces. people just have to sort of go about their daily lives. basically they've got an almost unlimited target set that they can now go after. that's why it's so important to bust these cells before they can launch these attacks. it appears they prevented part of a cell from launching the attacks when they arrested salah and slaebdeslam and accomplice
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killed an algerian senior isis conspirator but another node of the network managed to get through. >> juliette, in terms of the warning that went out mafor americans traveling abroad, they do it out of an abundance of caution. it's so broad, if a family has a trip planned to europe this summer, you know, what do you do? >> it's be careful, be smart. i will say this state department announcement is a little bit different than others. most of the time they're very generic. this was specific in terms of recommendations of what to do, be careful in various sort of soft targets, large events. it's not recommending no travel at this stage. that's important to say. but it is some of it is just trying to educate, remind people that they can do a lot to minimize the risks to themselves and some of it is what we call security theater which i don't mind. i was in government. you know, the show of force at these airports. the extra policemen near the train. you know, are they going to be
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payab able to stop every terrorist? of course not. part of it is to assure the public people are leani ining forward. >> we've seen this in new york, hercules teams, one is to quicken the response time if there is an event, also to have a very public show of force. >> and the viper teams th s th were talking about that tsa has deployed. think of a super bowl or beyonce concert. they have people there so people can enjoy their lives or the reason why they're going to that event. >> chairman rogers, though, at an airport, there are some airports in the united states and around the world that will have a check of traffic as you're coming in, maybe it's a law enforcement officer will stop, oepen up a trunk. you can't do that at every airport, can't search every bag that's coming in physically to an airport building. >> the debate is how much we don't allow our intelligence or law enforcement folks to do. we're going to have to change
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that conversation in america. you cannot hire enough guard ga gates, and guns to stop terrorists from getting into places like airports, train stations or bus stations or in the case in paris in concert halls. if you're going to be effective, you have to stop them early in the spectrum in their planning phase. there's always a conspiracy in these things. there's -- in the case of paris, i think they're up to 30 different people. you need to intercept that early on in the planning stage. you do that through really good intelligence. aggression, signals intelligence, as well as human intelligence. a combination of all of those. >> has there been too much reliance, technological intercept, on signal intercepts as opposed to human intelligence in a neighborhood like molenbeek, tightly knit groups, people have grown up together, people have committed crimes together, spent time in prison together. it's hard to infiltrate that. >> just like organized crime was beat in the '80s and '90s, not
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beat but diminished in the united states through aggressive human and technological platforms, the same needs to happen with terrorism. they operate in the same way. it's an organized group that surreptitiously plans activities that are supposd to be out of the realm of notice of law enforcement. the framework is the same. so you can't overrely too much on technical and can't necessarily over-rely too much on human. you have to have the right combination. the problem has been, though, with encryption, new commercial encryption technology, they have been able to operate under that radar. >> right. we know the paris attackers used, i read this in your article on cnn.com, paris attackers used -- i forgot the name of the encryption, but there's some communications that law enforcement has not been able to penetrate because of that encryption. >> that's right. 2:14 p.m., they downloaded the encryption app, telegram, the bataclan attackers, and presumably then started to use that to communicate.
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when you go through the police reports, there are no mentions of any communications they were able to recover from the telegram messaging app suggesting that they've just been destroyed and there is a self-destruct function on that messaging app. this is all part of this wider going dark concern authorities have that terrorists can communicate freely at will and coordinate these plots using these multitude of different encryption apps. it's a real worry for law enforcement agencies and they're having to intercept plots sooner and sooner and sooner, not allowing them to play out because they can't have eyes and ears into them like they used to were. >> juliette, we now understand that the three people who went to the airport who are in that surveillance video, the still frame that's been released, took a cab there. couldn't get all their bags, in fact, into their cab. perhaps there would have been more explosive devices inside. paul cruickshank is saying one of the devices i believe did not
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detonate. law enforcement was able to detonate that. what does it tell you that they took a cab? i mean, is it because in the paris attacks they rented vehicles. there was a lot more preparation. >> i think it goes back to friday, the arrest on friday and this question about whether the belgium authorities were learning anything about potential attacks so they sped it up. it means they didn't do a dry run with a taxi because they obviously couldn't fit everything into the taxi. what it also says to me, someone who had been in homeland security, is at some moment these terrorist groups are touching others, right? the taxicab drivers says they wouldn't let me touch the luggage, they had to leave some behind, they seemed odd. you know, all these things. this is, you know, people are running up against some of these terrorists and planning so part of the engagement we talk about with communities whether it's immigrant communities or whether it's just the see something/say something campaign really does mean something. >> right. >> they're not going to run into aan agent but they might order a
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pizza, get into a taxicab, two to a movie theater or something in their process of trying to act normal. >> it will also be interesting to note did the person who did not blow himself up in the airport, did he take a cab or was there a car waiting for him? we don't know. but has that cab driver come forward and then can they use the cc-tv footage to track the location of that person? obviously a lot more investigators looking for it. paul cruickshank, thank you, juliette kayyem, mike rogers as well. still ahead, what the presidential candidates had to say about today including donald trump who did more than double down on banning muslims from entering the country. see how much more, next. don't let dust and allergies get between you
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it's a big night in politics here in the united states. four nominating contests. utah, idaho, arizona, america samoa. all of them, both parties made public remarks about the carnage. some took it a step further. senator ted cruz called for authorities to patrol and secure muslim neighborhoods in the united states. earlier i asked him to clarify what he meant. can you name a neighborhood now that you would like to see these patrols in? neighborhood that you believe has been radicalized? >> listen, a classic example was major michael bloomberg's successful program, cooperating with the muslim community to target and prevent radical islamic terrorism and mayor bill
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de blasio afraid of being labeled politically incorrect ended that program, said no, no, no, no, we're not going to do this anymore. and that is foolishness. it's the same foolishness that governs barack obama after every one of these attacks he goes on national televised address and lectures americans on islam-o-phobia. we need a president instead that targets the bad guys. >> senator cruz wasn't the only candidate making statements in the wake of the latest wave of terrorism on a day when four states are voting. here's sunlen serfaty with more from the campaign trail. >> reporter: tonight, a new commander in chief test for the 2016 candidates. >> we stand today with the people of brussels. >> today, of course, is a sad day for the entire civilized world. >> reporter: many of the presidential hopefuls expressing sympathy for the victims and their families, but varying if their responses to how to confront the threat from isis
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and other terrorist groups. democrat hillary clinton calling for increased surveillance in the u.s. in an interview with wolf. >> we have to also toughen, as you say, soft targets with, you know, greater police presence. there is no getting around that. >> reporter: her rival, bernie sanders, also talking up the idea of bolstering intelligence gathering. >> we need to have significantly improved intelligence and cannot just be done within the united states. >> reporter: donald trump offering a typically brunt assessment. >> brussels is a disaster. they have areas of brussels the cops, the police won't even go into those areas they're so dangerous and so radicalized. >> reporter: and doubling down on his proposal to temporarily ban muslims from entering the country. >> you have no choice and you're going to make exceptions on heads of state and certain people and i'm not saying you don't do that, but we have a real problem and people don't have any idea what's going on. >> reporter: clinton today
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rejecting that approach raising questions about trump's temperament. >> we need steady, strong, smart minds and hands in the white house. >> reporter: trump's gop rivals are also looking to draw contrasts. ted cruz and john kasich both touting stronger ties with nato after trump said monday the u.s. should rethink its involvement with the alliance. >> the day after donald trump called for america weakening nato, withdrawing from nato, we see brussels. >> i would make every effort i could to strengthen the nato alliance. >> sunlen, the adl already was speaking out about ted cruz for what he called special patrols of muslim neighborhoods, right? >> reporter: that's right. no mincing of words, anderson. the adl came out with a strongly worded statement slamming ted cruz over this proposal l they liken to something that would demonize, in their words,
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muslims. called it irrational, misguided, counterproductive and made the argument it would lead to more adversarial relationships in these communities where they do want to improve relations. they argue it would make residents feel more frightened and less likely to help police community. now, we saw senator cruz today really go on the defensive, peppered with questions from you and other reporters all throughout the day over this proposal. and the way he defended himself, he said, look, it's kind of like in communities where there's a heavier police presence than normal because there's gang activity. so he tried to make that relation there and then, of course, doubling down on his proposal. anderson? >> all right, sunlen serfaty, thanks. i want to show you what it looks like this evening in boise, idaho. this is the democratic caucus site. that line goes on for more than a mile. officials there saying they expect between 10,000 and 12,000 people caucusing at that site, alone. the terrible news in belgium has dominated, of course, this day of voting. john king joins me at the magic wall to tell us what's at stake and what's being called western
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tuesday. two contests tonight. a big test. >> the terror attacks putting a somber mood over the voting. very big day in the race despite the mood. let's take a look. right now here's what ted cruz very needs. if you look at delegate count coming in, donald trump at 683, ted cruz at 421. ted cruz, pretty simple, he needs to cut into donald trump's lead. what ted cruz is hoping happens tonight is he wins arizona. that's a winner take all state. the winner in arizona gets 58 of the 98 republican delegates at stake tonight. ted cruz wanted missouri and north carolina last week, he didn't get it. if ted cruz can win there and go on and win in utah by more than 50%, if you're above 50% you get winner take all, this is the dream scenario for ted cruz. not only shuts donald trump out in terms of delegates but allows ted cruz to change the math a little bit and to get close. if this happens tonight, you will see a giant impact on the race. however, more likely scenario that people think is going to happen is that donald trump wins arizona. he's favored in arizona. his immigration message, anti-terror message helped him
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build a lead in arizona. if trumps get the winner take all there, the fascinating conversation, what does john kasich get in utah and arizona? cruz forces are complaining kasich campaigning in utah this week might keep them under 50. if even if ted cruz wins under 50%, say he gets 45% of the vote and trump gets 35% of the vote and comes in second, kasich is down in third, donald trump could end the night picking up 70 delegates and moving forward. he enters the night needing about 54% of the remaining delegates. if he gets s 70% tonight he'll leave the night needing 52% of the remaining delegates. can cruz take arizona? if he can and take utah, that would change the race. if trump comes out with more delegates tonight, it keeps him on track. tough math to get to 1,237 but possible. >> we should point out cruz has had mitt romney campaigning for him in utah though romney was campaigning for kasich in ohio recently. >> bizarre week for mitt romney. trying to help with the large lds, the mormon community in the state of utah trying to help ted cruz get to 50 plus 1 to get the
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winner take all threshold. it's a big deal. only 40 delegates. if cruz can get them all, it helps him in the stop trump movement. >> what about on the democratic side? >> the math is what's important. look at the math here, bernie sanders enters the night 324 delegates behind hillary clinton. she is favored in arizona. let's say she wins arizona. it's possible sanders could win. let's say hillary clinton wins. democratic rules are proportional. if she wins 5 5-45, it will go like that. bernie sanders like s big turnot in utah. if he wins higher he gets a little bit more and that's key. i'll get to that in a second. say bernie sanders also wins idaho, 55-45. bernie sanders could win two out of three tonight. the end result would be that hillary clinton, if the margins are 55-45, her here, and him there, the end result of the night will be she adds one to her delegate lead. the margins for bernie sanders tonight in these states especially if he can take
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arizona, get hawaii, alaska, washington state on saturday, bernie sanders if he wants to change the math in this race before we start to come back to these big states, starting in wisconsin, next month, bernie sanders needs not only to win, but to win 60-40, 70-30 to close the delegate math. in a state with a small basket of delegates. >> yet, having more -- racking up delegates does allow, you know, allow him to justify staying in through the convention. >> and he wins -- let's take it out through saturday. bernie sanders is expected to win out here. again, bernie sanders is expected to win in alaska. the hard part is even if he goes 5 for 6, anderson -- i went too far there. let me come back to that. move it up. it makes it easier. i should know better. even if he does this, he could win five out of six, right, and still only cuts about 13 or 14 off her delegate lead. that's the frustrating part for sanders. if it's 5 5-45. he needs to start winning big. no question this would keep him raising money, keep his supporters energized.
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happened. sebastian played college basketball at oakland university in michigan and professional ball in europe. his father joins us now by phone. john, how is your son doing? >> hi, anderson. my son is doing well considering. he went through a first operation earlier today, but because he wases left for about an hour on the floor in the airport in brussels, he lost a lot of blood. so they stabilized him and he's going to go through another operation tomorrow morning. >> have you been able to talk to him? has he been conscious? >> yes. yes. i spoke with him twice. i first reached out to him this morning. he was obviously stunned but the first words out of his mouth was dad, you wouldn't believe i carnage i saw around and then we talked about him and about how he's doing and how he's feeling. he was very clear, very articulate even though he was
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obviously in a lot of pain. and then the second time i talked to him two hours later, i think he was obviously sedated and and i think feeling much more tired and i think ready to be taking a break. >> we've seen a lot of injuries to legs, to lower extremities, believed because the bombs were in suitcases and were placed either on trolleys or on the ground, low to the ground. do you know how close your son was to one of the blasts? >> yeah, i don't know. that's a good question. i don't know exactly. all i know is that the force of the blast where he was was sufficient to throw him up 60 feet in the air and then he landed back and he got shrapnel really big shrapnel in his left leg and right hip.
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>> it actually lifted him up in the air? >> yes. >> when you heard this, i mean, you know, one sees this on television, one reads about these sorts of things. i can't imagine what it's like to get that call. how did you find out your son was there? >> well, i think -- very quickly there were photographs of him circulating in the belgian press. because we have a huge network of friends in belgium, they reached out and sent a picture of him on the floor. i'm sure you've seen the picture. and asking is that really seb? and that was at 4:00 this morning california time. so, yeah, that was a shock. >> oh, my gosh. >> that's how we found out. and the rest of the day was spent trying to reach the crisis center in brussels and then to the hospital. everybody was so helpful and so
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supportive. i got through to the floor nurse right away and they put me through to him. so in a sense the first two hours of the day were very, very, very tough, but once i got through to him, it was the determination that we were going to get through. >> our thoughts and you are prayers are with you and your son and your entire family and thank you so much for request with us and please give your son our best wishes. >> thank you, anderson, for reaching out and all thoughts go out to the victims and all that's happened to their family members. >> coming up, we'll have more on the manhunt and the tip that tied three to an apartment that
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what's happening now? >> reporter: anderson, this is the apartment that apparently tleet men who went to the airport to then detonate those bombs took a taxi from. what's pulled up is a truck, an anti-bomb squad that has pulled up here. we're not exactly sure what they're doing in the apartment. if we pan up to the actual apartment, which is on the first floor of this building, this is still light on up there, there are still people working there. we have seen people up there with flashlights looking for something. we're not exactly sure what this bomb squad is doing there. the forensic work is ongoing throughout the evening. as we've been stand hearing speaking to you, they have been bringing out paper bags full of something that could have been evidence, but the forensic teams here clearly still working through the night. this of great significance because a nail bomb and
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a manhunt now under way for
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one, probably more people in today's terror bombing in brussels, 30 killed, 230 wounded, a travel warning for americans potentially traveling to europe. right now we shift to cnn election coverage for a while. wolf blitzer will be joining you shortly. wolf. you're looking live at what could be one of the largest caucus turnouts in u.s. history. this is the line for democrats in boise idaho. it more than a mile long. this is the scene in phoenix, arizona, where the lines are wrapped around the building and in salt lake city, utah, the lines are also long and they may, repeat may, run out of ballots. 5,000 people expected

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