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stakes, some of those winner take all. for democrats 131 delegates tonight. hillary clinton hopes to run up the scoreboard and widen her delegate lead, while bernie sanders is hoping he'll have a better night tonight, more luck out west with the caucuses in utah and idaho. i want to go to sara murray. she's covering donald trump. she's in florida for us. what are you hearing? >> reporter: one of the states tonight, utah, we know will be an unfriendly state for donald trump. that was before the anti-trump super pac decided to pile on. they have spent half a million dollars just since friday hammering donald trump on that state. they've been up on the airwaves with ads of mitt romney slamming donald trump. they've even used the romney
campaign's old voter file to target voters via e-mail and phone, who might be receptive of this message of mitt romney slamming donald trump. they learned a valuable message after they spent all this money in florida and were unable to defeat donald trump. they said you have to pick your states carefully. they felt like trump was so far ahead in the banked early vote, they would be no way to defeat him in arizona. >> what's going on there, brianna? >> there are still thousands still wrapped around the high school. there was a very big line here. that will be a welcome site for hillary clinton. we are expecting her and her remarks, which should take place in about an hour, to mention the
brussels attack. she did say this is why strong, smart and steady leadership is needed and she took aim at donald trump saying that some of her opponents want to build walls, to shut the world out and she said you can't build a world that's big enough to shut out the internet. she said she needs everyone on the front lines, including muslim americans. in is a place where she and her campaign think that she can really show some strength in talking about foreign policy. they think it's a place where bernie sanders cannot match her, although he may give her a run for her money tonight, wolf. her campaign convinced or resigned to the fact that she may lose utah and idaho, hoping she pulls out a win in arizona. >> we're going to go over to john king at the magic wall. arizona, winner take all for the republicans, if donald trump wins that, he'll be well on his
way. >> if he wins, he gets 58. he at lest knows he's got 6 of 10 of the delegates going forward. we expect it after the top of the hour, we might start to get some of the volt count in. we know there are long lines. apparently they cut back the number of votes points tonight. maricopa county, if you win big here, you give yourself a big start. on the republican side, mitt romney won every county. it's all romney red four years ago but he only won with 47% of the vote. romney won them all. john mccain in his only state, he didn't get them all. let's take a peek at the democratic race back in 2008. hillary clinton won arizona with
50%. she has a track history there. flagstaff, sedona, this is where senator sanders was last night. he also spent time in pima county along the borders as well, both democratic candidates going even to the left of president obama on the immigration issue, trying to win the democratic vote in arizona. obviously the republican vote has a very different view in arizona. i want to show you back to 2014, these are the house districts. you have the democratic disabilities in this part of the state, more conservative part in this part of the state. we'll just watch turnout tonight beep kn . as we wait for the ruesults to come in, if ted cruz can support donald trump tonight -- it's been a while for a win. ted cruz's people early last tuesday were telling his people he thought they were going to
get missouri and north carolina, they came up just short in both. arizona will be a win for him if he gets arizona. >> anderson, back to you. >> how important is a win for ted cruz tonight? not just arizona but if anywhere, it's mostly likely to be utah. >> i've been trying to find pockets where donald trump can't win. he surprised us all, right? it was supposed to be he can't win evangelicals, can't win women. the last holdout is the mormon vote. i don't think he's going to did well in utah. if ted cruz can't prove this voting block is his, i'm not sure how good the rest of the map looks for him. let's not forget, the mormon corridor goes through mesa,
arizona. there is a huge mormon population, almost half a million mormons in arizona. not significantly enough nationally but significant enough that ted cruz could play in arizona. the fight there is going to be between the border folks, the jan brewers of arizona and maybe the ted cruz mormon vote. >> for border issues, both cruz and trump have made that a priority. donald trump claims credit for introducing the conversation. you can argue whether or not that is the case -- >> but they've got different endorsements. ted cruz has matt salmon, congressman from arizona. a little different in tone. >> arizona shows how the two parties have divided so profoundly on this issue. back in 2008, john mccain and barack obama had pretty much the same position on immigration. immigration was not such a partisan dividing issue among the parties. both parties have gone way to their extremes. the democrats are running
against any deportation, running to obama's left and donald trump is running around with joe arpaio. the problem is demographically, this is death for the republican party. you can continue getting a lot of votes of older retirees in arizona, but as the party digs itself in a deeper and deeper holes among latinos, there's a lot of evidence that latinos are becoming a more cohesive group, they're identifying as a group under attack and starting to look more like african-americans in their political voting behavior. that could last a long time and could be disastrous for the republican party. >> you don't look worried. >> it's what i refer to as the culture of race. >> it's the reality of race. >> it's a key race alert of the night for us.
41% of the democratic prime rich vote is in in arizona. hillary clinton with a very impressive lead, 61.5% to bernie sanders's 36.1%. she has 114,000 votes, bernie sanders 67,000 votes. she's got a lead of more than 47,000 votes, 75 delegates, proportionately distributed. at stake in arizona. our first key rate alert. we're watching the record turnout in utah. one democratic caucus site has run out of ballots. much more of our special coverage right after this. no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all. the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class.
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the results are coming in. we have a key race alert in arizona. look at this on the republican side. 38% of the vote is now in. donald trump has an impressive lead. 45.4%. ted cruz at 20.2%. john kasich at 10.8%. donald trump ea's lead of 60,00 plus. john kasich, 28,000. 58 delegates are at sake in arizona in this republican presidential primary. it is winner take all. no matter what percentage you get, if you're the winner, you take all those 58 delegates. a key race alert on the democratic side right now, hillary clinton has an impress of lead over bernie sanders. she's at 61.5%, 36.1% for bernie
sanders, 47,000 vote advantage right now for hillary clinton. i want to show you what's going on in phoenix, arizona, right now the. the polls closed almost two hours ago. look at this long line that's under way right now. people are still waiting to cast their ballots in phoenix, arizona right now. arizona, the biggest prize of the night. i want to go over to john king over at the magic wall. almost half of the precincts reporting right now. hillary clinton over bernie sanders in arizona. very impressive lead. >> just got a few more results. only had maricopa county a moment ago. we just got a little bit from the sedona area. and now a very rural, small area in mojave. if you win here in maricopa, you tend to win -- >> we're told the early vote we're getting, mostly absentee,
they've been voting for a couple weeks. >> they had those votes, they dump them all out. took them longer than we thought. now that we have them, a pretty impressive lead for hillary clinton to start the night. 61-36 right there. on the republican side this was all we had in maricopa county. donald trump with an early lead. again, this is the largest county in the state. it's nearly 60% of the state population right now. if you look at it 45-20 to 10% for kasich. if it stays like this, cruz won't have much of a complaint. cruz has been complaining all week, it could keep him from beating donald trump. at the moment if you pop out statewide, the same area on the callic side, state wide with 43% in, the winner gets all 58 here no matter what the margin is.
cruz well behind. let's take a peek at the other counties. you move into the center part of the state, nearly 50% statewide, it's almost half the vote and donald trump has to be happy. not only is he winning but winning by more than 20 points over senator cruz. again, 58 delegates here. 98 at stake tonight. 40 in utah. you need 50% for it to be winner take all. otherwise it's proportional. >> anderson? >> as we were talking about before, for ted cruz who wants to rack up as many delegates as possible, that would be a big loss to not win in arizona. >> in a macro sense, i've gone back to 1960 and i can't find any nominee, any candidate who eventually got this far ahead and was overtaken by someone
else. republican or democrat. i mean, gary hart, for example, gave walter mondale fits, but walter mondale still won. >> anybody else come to mind? >> usually a candidate in this position kind of starts consolidating larger numbers at this point. and i think what you're finding with trump is that while he's consolidating, it's kind of slower and slower and there's not any kind of rush to support as there would be with a front-runner of his command honestly. >> it will be interesting to see what happens over the next month. because we don't have a lot of states voting over the next month. assuming this is a good night for donald trump, there's going to be a lot of time -- >> wait a minute, i've got to correct you. we don't have a lot left during this march madness, but april is huge. >> starting mid april. >> april 5th is wisconsin, april 19th is what i call the new york
primary. but april 26, the end of april, there are multiple opportunities for mr. cruz and mr. rubio to cherry pick through the states, but i would say as a democrat watching my republicans -- >> you said rubio. >> oh. >> i'm supposed to be somber. i miss marco rubio because he gives a speech when he loses. i'm missing that. but i do believe that they're cherry picking through the rest of these states. many of them are winner take all. so the advantage is with mr. trump, especially if he can win a state like arizona, which maris, california, in terms of you all were talking about race and demographics, i stayed out of that conversation because these two other individuals wanted to talk about race. but california is like arizona. we could see the same results for donald trump there. >> we continue to look at results in arizona. we'll take a short break. our coverage continues in just a moment.
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presidential primary in arizona. this is critically important. it is winner take all for donald trump. he gets all 58 of the delegates in the state of arizona. our first major pro jjection of the night. there are four more contests. this is exactly what donald trump wanted. he got it. he gets all 58 delegates. >> if he win business one vote, he gets all 58. he's doing it again in impressive fashion. this again raises questions of the stop trump movement. ted cruz thought it would be missouri and north carolina. he said this week maybe arizona. donald trump is now guaranteed -- there's 98 delegates tonight, 58 in utah, he's now guaranteed 58. he's guaranteed 60% of the delegates tonight. he's on a path now -- >> so what's the delegate count now? >> he's on a path right now, he on needs 54% of the remaining
delegates. we have him at 683. if he picks up missouri, he would get to 695. if he picks up the extra 12 that go to the winner. now he's going to get arizona and he's going to get them all. add 58 more and you have donald trump past the 750 mark, past 750. look where he is now back here. so donald trump, you have utah tonight, perhaps utah goes to ted cruz. if ted cruz can win it all, will get above 50%, he would get 40. even under this scenario, holoo how far donald trump is. what happens if donald trump keeps his momentum. if donald trump wins wisconsin, he starts to pull it out. anybody think donald trump is not going to win his home state of new york? that's a bit down the calendar in the month of may? is ted cruz going to beat donald trump in connecticut or rhode island? maybe john kasich is the competition. even if you gave john kasich --
if he keeps doing this, he starts to pull away here. even if you assume ted cruz is strong in the west and you just fill them all in for ted cruz, this is a hypothetical scenario. even if you give ted cruz all the west, if you come back to trump, at some point you got to stop him in the delegate rich states. some states are proportional. but if trump keeps winning, gets delaware, maryland, new jersey, there's donald trump out here now. let's say indiana, kasich says he's going to compete there, let's see it to prove it, here's where donald trump gets over a thousand and we could get down to the big state of california, i just gave donald trump all of california. could you take other things out. the point of tonight is if you're going to start donald tru trump, right now he needs 54%. if he wins tonight, he needs 52%
you have to stop him to beat him. >> we have another major projection to make. cnn projects that hillary clinton will win the arizona democratic primary, a big win for hillary clinton in arizona right now, 75 delegates are at stake for the democrats. it's proportional. bernie sanders will get some of those delegates. hillary clinton won't get them all. almost half of the vote is in. she's way ahead right now, 61% to 36%. >> it's a resounding victory. the margins matter on the democratic side. it's not winner take all but if she can keep 60%, she gets 60% of delegates. the scenario had her winning 55-45. her goal tonight is to get a delegate cushion here because she expects bernie sanders will win in idaho and utah. the question is by how much. the bonus here for hillary clinton is not only does she get a win to offset expected two wins by sanders later tonight
but by huge margins. this is nearly 60% of the vote statewide. a lot of early voting. you see she's winning by a more than 6-1 margins. sanders, this is where he was when he joined us for our final five program, he was in flagstaff. a very impressive victory for hillary clinton. i have to take these off here. she starts the night here already. we just add in arizona for her. she starts o stretch out. the problem for senator sanders is even if he starts to win these western states -- sorry -- even if he starts to win these wednesday states, she's still getting proportions. it's very important he get idaho and utah tonight for the moral victories for momentum. let me move this up. he's expected to win washington
state, hawaii and alaska on the weekend. but even show, if she's getting 45% in those states, he's narrowing the gap but ever so slightly and then it moves back to she thinks it's her territory out here. for sanders, winning will help him raise money. if she's winning 60/40 here, he needs to win 60/40 in idaho and utah or by a bigger margin because arizona has a bigger basket of delegates. momentum helps with his message. but to counter the math, in these smaller states, if she's winning 60/40 here, he has to win 60/40 or more to barely keep pace. it looks like she's going to end the night with a bigger margin than she entered it. >> that's just the pledge delegates. if you add in super delegates, she has a much more impressive lead. >> as long as she keeps winning,
the only thing that will scare them is if she starts losing. if she keeps winning the big states, the democrats will stay with her. if she keeps that, then she's got a huge advantage. >> he's only at 27 super delegates right now. anderson, the first two projections of the night, good news for hillary clinton and donald trump. >> big wins for them both in the state of arizona. perhaps not a huge surprise but nevertheless -- >> not a huge surprise by a huge win. for donald trump, you know, this is 58 delegate, winner take all. he was expected to win this. cruz was trying to contest it obviously and you can't really understate the importance of this for donald trump, particularly when you start looking at the delegate map going forward. i think this evening cruz is kind of relegated to hoping he gets maybe over 50% in utah so he can take the delegates there. >> but also for donald trump, who has continually said i
brought immigration -- you can disagree with him or not, to win a border state like arizona. >> it is huge. and, by the way, for hillary clinton i would also say this is a very important win for her because she knows in these smaller caucus states bernie sanders is likely to win. but in terms of the math again, we're talking about it, she becomes so formidable as to almost be unbeatable. >> we were talking about the mormon corridor. there's also a cowboy belt. ted cruz won texas and oklahoma the south west, here as arizona. ted cruz went down to douglas, arizona, talked to border guards, had a lot of people with cowboy hats around him all week and he's come up empty handed in arizona. i think that ted cruz is, again, we get back to watching utah tonight, can he get over that 50% threshold? if not, there will be a showdown in wisconsin between the three and it looks like donald trump wins wisconsin. it seems to me he would be off to the races and cruz would be
toast. >> and to that point, i heard from a cruz source saving that there's a little bit of concern about that now because of the terror attack in brussels, what we were talking about at the beginning of the program, that had t has, particularly within the republican electorate helped donald trump, even though ted cruz was out there big time, he talked to you, he was all over the maplace, he two press conferences today to make it his issue and be and look and feel like a commander in chief. >> when he didn't act like a commander in chief when ted cruz blamed the mayor of new york somehow as being unprepared for terror when brussels was going on today. i thought that was picking on the mayor of new york at a time when you want to create national unity. >> you had not only the mayor of new york coming out but the commissioner of the police department in new york blasting ted cruz over his comments. >> remember, in arizona so much of the voting took place before
the brussels -- the attack in brussels took place. anderson, your point about immigration, if you look at the television advertising that donald trump did in arizona, he used the same ad that he initial live u initially used in iowa, on immigration, building the wall and getting mexico to pay for it and on the muslim band. he understood the very fruits of his labor were to be realized in a state like arizona. and on the democratic side, i know we don't have exit polls to look, but obviously it's a very hispanic-heavy vote and, again, we're seeing a pattern that we've seen in hillary clinton versus bernie sanders is that when the population is less white, she tends to do really well. and i think not only is it the big delegate prize, but both of them, the front-runners, have their arguments that the way they've been winning big, they will continue to win big. and that, although the remainder of the night may belong to bernie sanders and ted cruz if it goes as expected, we
shouldn't underestimate how big this arizona prize is for those reasons. >> and also arizona is a closed primary. and bernie sanders tends not it do so well with democrats but does very well with independent voters. and what you see in arizona is democrats for hillary clinton. and that has been consistently a problem of his. it's hard to see how you win the nomination if you can't win democratic voters if you're a democrat. >> although because of the proportional allocation of delegates, it does allow bernie sanders to continue, it allows his supporters to say, look, he's racking up delegates and these super delegates as much as people say they're for clinton, they could change their opinion. >> the proportional system continues to allow bernie sanders to raise money, make a case he's still in this fight and it gives him oxygen. >> and also affect the platform of hillary clinton. we've seen hillary clinton moving toward a lot of bernie
sanders positions. >> she has on a lot of issues. some issues could hurt her in the general election assuming she's the nominee, like guns. some issues maybe not, if donald trump is the nominee, like trade, for example, where, you know, if she's moving so far to the left on trade that she actually could match the populist rhetoric and positions of someone like donald trump. >> we're watching a number of states very closely. our coverage continues in just a moment.
we projected he's the winner. hillary clinton also with 71% of the vote in, she's at 60%, sanders is only 37%. hillary clinton is the winner in arizona. let's go out to listen to bernie sanders. he's speaking right now in san diego, california. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you! [ cheers and applause ] thank you! thank you, san diego! let me thank all of you -- thank you for coming out tonight and let me thank rosario dawson for that extraordinary introduction.
it's a little bit hard to follow rosario because she said everything i was going to say. the only thing she departmeidn'i think, is not only do we have 9,000 people in this room, we have many thousands more in the overflow room! [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] when we began -- when we began this campaign about ten months ago, we were 3% in the polls, about 70 points behind secretary clinton. as of today, last poll that i saw, we are 5 points behind and
we're gaining. [ cheers and applause ] when we began this campaign against the most powerful political organization in the country, we had no money and no volunteers, now we have hundreds of thousands of volunteers all over this country. when we began this campaign, we were considered a fringe candidacy. now, who -- who in america, the media said, could believe in a political revolution? [ cheers and applause ] well, ten months later we have now won ten primaries and caucus
es, and unless i'm very mistaken, we're going to win a couple of more tonight. when we began this campaign, we talked about the need for millions of people to become involved in the political process. tonight in utah, tonight in idaho and tonight in arizona there are record-breaking turnouts in terms of voters. [ cheers and applause ] now, this campaign -- this campaign is doing as well as it is generating the kind of energy and excitement we're seeing here
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presidential primary. take a look at this. all 58 delegates were at stake. 58% of the vote is now in. look at this. he's got almost 100,000-vote advantage over ted cruz, 45. 9%, cruz at 21.6%, john kasich in third place at 10.2%. and we projected hillary clinton is the winner over bernie sanders. 71% of the vote is now in. she has almost 200,000 volts. he has 118,000 votes. she's ahead by 75,000-plus votes. 75 te 5 delegates are at stake. on the democratic side, it's proportional. he'll get about 30%, 40%. not as many. he's hoping utah and idaho he'll do well.
kyung lah is in salt lake city here. >> well, they went from plan a to plan b to plan c. you're looking at provisional ballots. because of the crushing turnout they had here, they had 5,000 ballots, they ran through those. they started prints out these provisional ballots on the printer. they haven't been able to verify the people who filled out these provisional ballots were registered voters. they'll be taken to headquarters and then they'll verify that all the people in this box are indeed registered voters. >> kyung lah in salt lake city. anderson, unfortunately there
are some technical problems -- >> it's an embarrassment, donna? >> after the 2012 election, president obama convened a bipartisan election administration that said we have to clean up our electoral system, we have to make sure we don't have long lines, we have to make sure we have ballots for people. all of these recommendations. many of the local governments said they weren't going to do it. you also have to look at the political parties. i'm embarrassed by this. >> would you think in this particular year when by this point we certainly know that people are turning out that the next states in line would take steps to -- >> they see what happened the prior week and send out -- >> you would assume we had 20,000 people show up in 2000 in idaho. i don't know what the turnout was in utah. but still, you would think that
these election officials and party officials would prepare for long turnout. you've had many of these states run out of ballots over the last couple of weeks. they should have been prepared. >> kinkos is getting lots of -- >> the thing that's sad to me is this is viewed as a problem. it's like, oh, look at the long lines. this is an amazing thing that's so much engagement and excitement. there should be so much enthusiasm to prepare for this and everyone is wringing their hands. let's celebrate it. >> in is so anachronistic to how many people do business. i understand going to an electronic system is very tricky in a lot of ways but we do it with all of our banking now, we
trust our money with a click of the button. >> amanda, for donald trump, a huge win in arizona. you used to work for senator ted cruz. are you depressed about that? >> well, i think most people expected him to do well in arizona. i'm really -- >> expected trump to do well? >> yeah, yeah. there's a big issue with early voting. we have people turning out the day of but so many ballots are turned in early. people are voting for marco rubio who dropped out of the race. i'm curious to see how those numbers affected the final polls. we'll have to see how cruz does in utah. everyone is looking for him to clear that 50% number. >> it is a huge margin in arizona for donald trump. >> yeah. without a doubt. itprotests, the people who have gone out and protested against donald trump,
sometimes it has a boomerang effect and say we're standing with him in solidarity. >> just about everything that everybody has tried to do to defeat donald trump in one way or another has back fired. >> this reminds me of the cartoon character wiley e. coyote going after the road runner. he gets these elaborate plans we're going do it here and it never happens. it back fires. >> arizona is the state that passed some of the harshest anti-immigration laws, who has endorsed donald trump. donald trump tends to do well in states with large percentages of racial minorities. not because the racial minorities vote for him, because the whites in states with large percentage of racial minorities vote for him. arizona is a textbook state of that. >> but it's a close primary also. he tends to also appeal to sort
of a broader spectrum bee. we talk about reagan democrats. this is a republican primary. yes, it's arizona, yes, the appeal of donald trump began with immigration, but i wouldn't downplay the importance of him winning arizona by an overwhelming margin either. i know you need one vote to take winner take all. ted cruz can try and blame it on john kasich to a degree, blame it on marco rubio's early votes, et cetera, et cetera -- >> not all the votes are in, if you combine cruz and kasich, it still doesn't match trump. >> exactly. in the end this probably will turn out to be an overwhelming victory for trump. >> i think the headline is cruz trounced in arizona. and if he doesn't do well here tonight in utah, they can't keep moving the goalpost. well, wait till washington. well, wait till wisconsin.
this isn't by a couple points tonight. this is a massive donald trump victory in arizona. >> and he gets all the delegates. >> that is true that he can, you know, you shouldn't keep moving the goalpost bull he can because what difference does it make? he's not going to go anywhere unless he truly runs out of money, which is kind of hard to see, though anything is possible. he's just going to keep going because why not? why not go until it is -- as with john kasich but for cruz, who is closer in the delegate count, he'll siphon -- >> he'll siphon donors' money, too. >> hundreds of millions of dollars trying to defeat donald trump during the whole course of this election. we're awaiting a speech by hillary clinton. we'll bring that to you and
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stage right now. she just scored a big win in arizona. donald trump also got a win in a state. he will add all of arizona's delegates in his tally putting more distance between himself and ted cruz and john kasich. we're standing by for the results in idaho and in utah where both democrats and republicans are caucusing. we hope to make major projections soon. i want to listen to hillary clinton right now. she's in seattle, washington speaking to her supporters. >> i want to thank attorney general bob ferguson, king county executive, state senator. i want to thank the president of the american nurses' association and the president of washington state nurses' association for endorsing me today. i am so proud to be