tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN March 27, 2016 6:00am-7:01am PDT
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>> now ted cruz is accusing donald trump of planting a tabloid smear. has the campaign reached a new low? >> plus clean sweep. bernie sanders wins big in the west. >> our momentum. >> is it enough to make a dent in hillary clinton's lead. >> sanders will be here live and the best political minds will be on the campaign trail. >> hello and happy easter. i'm jake tapper. feeling the bern. the results from the democratic caucuses are in and the state's democrats threw bernie sanders a big luau yesterday. he also won landslide victories in washington state with 72% and
alaska with a stunning 80%. yesterday's voting brings the pledge to delegate count to clinton, 1,251 and sanders 1012. he has narrowed the gap but clinton still enjoys a lead. one that's even larger if you include super delegates. >> we are making significant inroads in secretary clinton's lead and we have with your support coming here in wisconsin, we have a path toward victory. >> and senator bernie sanders joins me now live. senator, congratulations. you swept all three states, washington, alaska, and hawaii. those victories follow recent wins in idaho and utah. back in 2008, hillary clinton touted her support with white
voters. do you agree with clinton's 2008 assessment that the white working class is pivotal. >> every vote is pivotal. we are in state after state. we're doing better now that we're out of the south with the african american vote. we're doing particularly well with young people and we are -- we think we have a path toward victory. what is that path to victory, sir? as you know you need to score landslide victory after landslide victory in order to overtake her when it comes to the delegates. >> there's two aspects to it. as you just indicated the last five we won the last five out of six in landslide victories. the south is the most conservative part of america. we did not do well there. secretary clinton gained a lot of delegates. we're out of the south and heading to the west coast which is the most progressive part of
america. a lot of super delegates pledged to secretary clinton but when they begin to look at the reality and that is the we in poll after poll are beating donald trump by much larger margins than is secretary clinton. we were 20 points a head of her in the last national poll we actually beat secretary clinton by a point. we started 50 points behind. i think the momentum is with us. a lot of these super dell fwats may rethink their position. a lot of them do not get it and then you have super delegates in states and we win by 40 or 50 points. their own constituents are going to say to them, hey, why don't you support the people of our state. and senator you were asked what it would take to get behind hillary clinton if she were to get the nomination. you lead out five specific demands.
>> i don't think we have things in that sense. what we obvious -- first of all, i don't want to talk about, you know. what happens if we lose. we are in this race to win jake and the reason that we have the kind of momentum that we have is we're talking about what the questions are about. we're talking about the american people. why is the middle class disappearing? why do we have massive levels of income and wealth inequality? why are we the only major country on earth not to guarentee health care to people. why leave college 30, 40, $50,000 in debt. i have a lot of respect for secretary clinton. i have known for her 25 years. we'll see what happens at the end of the process but our function and our goal and we're working hard at it we think we can succeed and that is to win the democratic nomination. >> let's turn to a story that
concerned many americans. the terrorist attack in brussels. how would the war against isis differ from the war that obama has been waging? >> in fairness to the president he gets criticized a lot. some of the republicans think he hasn't been tough enough. his job is twofold. number one, to destroy isis and by the way, we are making on the military and isis is on the defensive. and they are in the last one so we keep that up but what the president is also trying to do is make sure that the united states and great men and women in the military are not sucked into warfare in the middle east. second of all, obviously, we need better intelligence sharing. and we have got everything to make sure that we do not have the tax against our allies or
even here in the united states of america. we have got to be incredibly vigilant. and doing everything we can to prevent young people from joining these terrorists. >> is the u.s. intelligence apparatus not doing that? >> i'm sure that they are. but we have to do everything we can to improve our efforts. >> let's be honest. somebody who is willing to kill himself and strap a suicide belt around himself. this is not to easy to contain. we have to do everything we can working with our allies. and we're talking about argue sy have a lens of communication and it's what is the u.s. government not doing now. and not taking place that you say we want to improve.
something went wrong. this is not a criticism of the intelligence agencies. we improve our efforts to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> at what point would a president sanders launch a military strike against those abroad? how would you determine if a terrorist group posed an imminent threat to the united states? would they have to attack the united states first? >> no, of course not. obviously you want to prevent those attacks before they take place. and we know those people who are planning against our european alabama ply lyes and against ourselves and we have to do everything question to destroy them. this isis is a barbar barbaric organization.
the fight going on there is the fight for the soul of islam and at the end of the day it will be muslim troops on the ground and we're beginning to see some success there. that destroy isis with the support of the united states, the u.k., france, russia, et cetera. but the real battle has to be fought underground. i will do everything that i can to make sure that the united states does not get sucked in to warfare in the middle east. one of the big differences between secretary clinton and myself. i voted against the war in iraq. she supported that war. that war has been a disaster for us. >> one of the things you talk about -- one of the issues you talk about on the campaign trail quite a bit is big money and politics. we can show the invitation. a couple has to raise or contribute $353,400 for premium seating and in an he e-mail to supporters you called this on
scene. why is it obscene? >> it is obscene that secretary clinton is going to big money people to fund her campaign but it's not only the clooney event. she raised $15 million from wall street for her super pact and millions more from the fossil fuel industry and from the drug companies. we have received 6 million individual campaign contributions. averaging $27 a piece. so i think what we're trying to do is run a campaign to paraphase abraham lincoln of the people and by the people and for the people. not just reaching out to the wealthiest people in this country. that's a cancer on american politics. we have to overturn this
disastrous supreme court decision. i believe we should move to public funding of elections. >> but do you believe george clooney does a lot of humanitarian work and do you think that's comparable to the wall street investment banker types? >> look, the point is i have a lot of respect for george clooney. he's a great actor. i like him. but this is the point. this is the problem with american politics is that big money is dominating our political system and we are trying to move as far away from that as we can. so if you have an event -- you know, we have events too. at our events we charge $15 or $50 for people to come. it's not a criticism of clooney. it's a criticism of a corrupt finance system where big money interest and it's the people coming to this event, have undue influence over the political process. there's very few people that do
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welcome back to state of the union. you right now are looking at live pictures from brussels where antiimmigrant protestors have shown up at the memorial for the victims of the brussels terrorist attack has been created. police say they have charged a man with terrorist murder in connection with tuesday's bombing in brussels. authorities have not confirmed if he is the man in white seen on surveillance footage in the moments before the attack at the airport last week. french police also arrested a man in the final stages of planning another attack. u.s. counterer the rofism officials say there were
additional plots underway. let's bring in our international correspondent on the ground in brussels. there's protests in the square right now. what exactly is going on there? >> well it's incredible how quickly the mood here changed, jake. just about half an hour ago this was a quite scene. people were passing through the square. lighting candles, laying flowers. remembering the dead. it's easter sun so a lot of people took the time to come here to memorialize the dead and essentially what we saw was a march, a far white wing fringe group associated with football or soccer hooligans that marched on the square chanting antiimmigrant chants. it essentially means this is our home, or we're in our home and then you could hear other people in the crowd chanting back we are all the sons of immigrants.
it become this dualing chant but things did get quite tense quite quickly. we saw a number of people doing nazi salutes. you can see behind me how the police just completely locked down the square in a matter of minutes. riot police carrying shields and wearing helmets. water con nons at the ready in case the situation becomes violent but this is exactly what authorities wanted to avoid today. they asked people yesterday not to come out and protest. not because there was any threat to a protest but because they didn't want to have all of their resources die verted to taking care of this instead of being out there on the hunt for the men who are still at large who are responsible for the attacks. >> a tense situation in brussels. thank you so much. we're also learning more about the americans killed in the terrorist attack. justin was 30. his wife was 29. the couple moved to brussels from tennessee after a job
transfer. they were at the airport dropping off stephanie's mother who was visiting them. she was not injured. let's turn now to ron johnson: thanks for joining us. happy easter. >> happy easter to you jake. u.s. counter-terrorism officials believe there are plots upnderwy in europe. >> we're being told there's no specific credible threats and i have to believe the officials and it would make sense that there's probably more plots being hatched in europe as we speak. europe is in greater danger. they're in closer proximity to the middle east. we're seeing a surge of refugees and a couple of terrorists kale into europe with the refugee flow so what officials are unraveling are the cells and plots and this is exactly what
islamic terrorists are trying to sew. what you're seeing in brussels today. the type of civil unrest. they're trying to destabilize different countries and they're doing a good job of it. >> belgian police arrested a man and charged him with terrorist murder. is it your understanding that he's the man in white that got away after the airport bombing? >> have no more information than you have on that one. >> it's beginning to look as though belgian authorities did have some knowledge of the brothers that carried out the bombing at the airport beforehand. do you think this is an example of annabel intelligence by offi in belgium. >> it's a very difficult problem and of course the number of people that flowed from europe into syria, literally the thousands now flowing back is obviously overwhelming.
intelligence capabilities of europe. it's a concern here in america which is why we have to address the root cause or problem. it's the instability in syria and iraq. it's the fact that isis exists. that it's still standing. remember 18 months ago in september 2014 that president obama declared our goal, which i agree with, to ultimately defeat isis. we haven't defeated him. we're nibbling around the edges and taking back territory in iraq but they're expanding territory in syria and obviously islamic terrorists aren't putting down their arms so this is a war and we have to take it seriously and defeat isis and find terrorists where ever they exist and wipe them out. >> what are you suggesting that we need to do? the u.s. government and military need to do that they're not doing? >> have a more robust effort. we need to assemble that coalition and the reason we vn assembled them is because we have not shown the leadership. president obama took off the table that the same day that he
declared the goal he took off the table the very ingredient that was going to be necessary and that's american troops on the ground. i don't think we have to have that many of them. we haven't heard out of this administration a real strategy for defeating isis but we have to show the leadership so that the coalition will actually assemble around us and let's face it. europe is probably a little bit more primed to really join that coalition. it's got to be long-term effort. the historic blunder of president obama was leaving iraq. after all the sacrifice. after the stabilization of iraq. we bugged out and as a result that coalition dissentgrates and we have to learn the lessons of history. with very to be relenless in our pursuit of stamping out islamic terror. >> let's turn back to the terror investigation in france and belgium. the only surviving terrorist from the deadly attacks in paris
salah abdeslam was arrested and he denied knowing the men that murdered dozens of people at the brussels airport. donald trump said this week he would have talked a lot faster with the torture. do you agree? >> well, we really need to do and i have been down to guantanamo bay and talked to the people that do the interviews and the way that's effective is over a long period of time and what this administration has done in their guest to close down guantanamo bay we stopped captioning, and questioning islamic terrorists. we're starting to capture some of the isis operatives. we captured one that was a former iraqi chemical weapons expert and we started seeing them and we're able to take out some of the installations but we need a long-term facility for long-term detention and that's how you gather intelligence is capturing people and detaining
them and interviewing them over a long period of time. finding discrepancies between themselves and their own testimony and that of their fellow operatives. >> let's talk about nuclear security. there's a report that a security guard at a nuclear plant there was murdered this week and his access pass was stolen. authorities discovered secret surveillance footage of a high ranking official in the home of a man linked to the paris attackers. are you concerned they could infiltrate a plant in europe? >> i'm highly concerned about that but not only in europe. look at the attacks on the power station in california. we have not solved that. that is a very disconcerning chain of events here. so trust me. our critical infrastructure is vulnerable to cyberattacks, potential terrorist attack and we're not taking this threat seriously enough. it's highly concerning.
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i don't get angry often but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. donald you're a sniveling coward and leave heidi alone. >> that was ted cruz going after donald trump for retweeting a less than flattering picture of high decruz next to a nice picture of milania trump this week. it started after they used suggestive photographs of her and read targeted at mormons
ahead of the utah caucuses. former ohio state senator nina turner supports bernie sanders and also with us, doug, the former communications director. steven you're an advisor to donald trump. he stands by his decision to tweet this, my wife is hotter than your wife tweet. do you think it's presidential? >> i think it says a lot about washington d.c. how many hours we spent discussing a retweet and it would be nice if one tenth the out rage that has been spent and indignation had instead been spent this summer when kate was murdered in cold blood by an illegal immigrant in san francisco. i was working in the senate at the time. congress did nothing when she was murdered and died in cold blood. we get wrong about what we're mad about in america. we don't get mad when americans
are murdered by illegal immigrants w. he don't get mad when people have their jobs tyken. we don't get mad when entire cities are crushed by our trade policies. >> i understand why you want to change the subject. a big part of the trump campaign is that people want to get mad about the right things. that's what i am saying. >> we're talking about something that your boss tweeted and he could have tweeted something about kate that moment but he chose to tweet something -- >> nobody has brought more attention to the issue than donald trump and if you look at his twitter account he tweeted about brussels all day long and we're not talking about that. >> we just did a whole segment on brussels. doug, what was your take. you're not a big trump supporter. what was your take on the my wife was hotter than your wife. >> i think you're right. we should have paid more attention to that but this is part of how donald trump has run his campaign from day one.
my wife is hotter than your wife or a scandal in the national inquirer or lindsey graham's cell phone it's create an out rage so that we do anything but talk about the fact that donald trump doesn't have specific answers on specific questions. the emperor doesn't have any clothes and he doesn't have any answers. >> let me get your take on this. democrats think that this type of story is going to help them in november when it comes to winning over women voters. do you think that's the case? >> well, if you look at polls today donald trump is doing poorly. a lot of women voters find him repulsive because of the attacks on how women look and judging their appearance, et cetera. it's not one tweet. it's what he has done the whole cycle. the challenge for the republican party is their debate every day is an embarrassment.
it's an embarrassment to republicans. they're electrical bmbarrassed debates. it's not just women. it's democrats, independents and republicans repulsed by, this is like junior high school. it's below junior high school debate. >> i'll come to you in a second. i want to have you weigh in here. it does seem in donald trump's defense no matter what he says or does that defend the likes of us around panels, tables in washington d.c. the voters, his supporters don't care and he continues to win. >> in terms of women, it's obvious that folks are still voting for mr. trump and that is
the point that it's easy to point the finger at him and he's wrong. senator cruz is not much better but folks are voting for mr. trump and it's not just men. women are voting for mr. trump as well. we'll have to deal with that. >> ciyou would like to be talki about immigration policies. >> it's a choice that the political class makes in d.c. if you looked at his twitter account he was talking at length about brussels, about asimulation and the problem of radical islam and how that relates to our immigration policies. the political class in d.c. works itself up into a indignation over the fact -- >> i don't think anyone is feigning anything. >> i watched the interview with kate baldwin. when you said let's agree to disagree on sexism. you want to get into an argument. we will get into an aural.
>> steven let him finish and i'll let you talk. >> you said you're going to talk over me. >> we're not going to agree on racism. >> steven hold on one second. >> he just accused me of standing up for sexism and that is absolutely inappropriate. that is inappropriate. >> if you want to yell at me that's fine because i watch what you said. >> you misquoted me. that is a lie. >> what did you say. >> i said in that interview what i'm saying right now which is its a trivial issue to be debating retweets when it is a fact that you have american dying every single day as a result of immigration policies. that's what i was saying. you said that we don't have real solutions to problems i just spent the other day in johnstown, pennsylvania, a thriving hub of industry. the steal industry shutdown and the town is dying. do you know why? because the political class in d.c. didn't care about product dumping. didn't care about foreign shooting just like americans all
over this country see their communities destroyed by uncontrolled migration. >> this is not a joke. >> wrote think this is a joke. >> you want to talk about women's issues, here's something we should be talking about. this is a fact. as a result of uncontrolled migration into this country, you can look this up. it's a statistic, half a million us. girls in this country are at risk of female genital mutilation. >> you don't think that statistic is correct? >> i don't think so. >> you don't think -- that is a statistic. >> do you mind if i respond? >> go ahead. >> if we actually want to fight sexism in america i agree with doug that the wrong way to go is donald trump who judges wil on their looks, who says terrible
things about women in every way he could possibly do and the reality is that the reason why he is losing women in the general electorate, the reason independent women and young conservative women will never vote for donald trump is what he does every day. not a retweet. just the things that come out of his mouth regularly. >> we'll have much more. be sure to watch. tuesday night cnn will host all three republican presidential candidates including mr. trump for a town hall live from wisconsin. all taking questions from voters as those voters prepare to head to the polls in that crucial contest. it will be moderated by anderson cooper. it's all right here tuesday night at 8:00 p.m.. they'll face-off over how to protect americans from an isis attack such as the one that devastated europe this week. ted cruz called for patrolling muslim american neighborhoods. is he trying to win over trump voters with his tough talk on terror? we'll talk about that next.
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>> ted cruz that said we need to be policing everywhere that muslims live. i don't know about you, but that is not only offensive but that too is dangerous. we want everybody to feel like we are together on our common defense against terrorism. >> former secretary of state hillary clinton responding to senator ted cruz's proposal to monitor muslim american neighborhoods. we're back with the panel. let's talk about this. doug, is ted cruz adopting the trump strategy of talking more tough even if it's politically correct? >> ted cruz drafting behind donald rump to try to get voters
if they peel away from donald trump. trump voters are probably the most loyal voters out there. even if we can talk about how he is at 35% of the polls against hilary that 35% never goes away do you see this as strategy by cruz to try to mimic the front runner? >> he's done a poor job explaining what he meant about his comment of patrolling muslim neighborhoods. it's not for me to say what he is trying to say but in 2013 senator cruz pushed an amendment which would have doubled immigration including muslim immigration and if you look at polling by a 10-1 margin, americans, democrats, agree we should raise wages for people living here instead of importing foreign workers. so if you look at two issues that cruz has been very aggressive on pushing more
foreign workers and pushing offshoring and more so-called free trade deals he is far outside the mainstream of the gop and the american electorate. we'll do well by focussing on trade an immigration issues that appeal to the electorate. >> what's your take on the policy? >> it's outrageous. to try to castigate any one group of people. my father is muslim, for example. i met a muz little young man yesterday at an airport. his father is from maui and talking about how he loves this country. he came here when he was 15 years old. he's practicing the religion of islam but he is american in how he has been when he goes through airports and people realize where he is from he is being stereotyped. so we can't do that. even the nypd who is not, the best police department in the nation in terms of not racially
profiling sent out a tweet about how they have about a thousand muslim officers who are protecting and serving. it is wrong and we must call it out. it cannot happen in this country. >> one of the concerns that national security officials raise is that muslims in this country are much more asimulated and that's one of the reasons we don't have scenes like that as opposed to europe. >> that's right. in the united states, in fact, it's muslim americans that are early warning signs of problems and have been working in partnership with national security apparatus and police departments. that's why this is super counter productive. if you care about america's security, you care about defeating isis. creating this rhetoric where the united states is at war with muslims makes us more insecure
in the middle east and at home. >> what's your response to that? he wants to ban any non-u.s. citizens that are muslims from coming into this country. there's an argument that this is exactly what isis wants. this clash of civilization. >> well, part of what makes washington so out of touch with the rest of the country is they probably haven't actually thought for a second about how the american public actually feels about migration and whether you're in a low income hispanic community or low income black community or a community of any background after admitting 59 million migrants since 1965 people are ready for a relief period. with respect to muslim migration in particular we have shown that we can't effectively screen migraines. it's not just the san bernardino case which is particularly horrifying but in the senate they found several dozen cases since the last year of foreign born migrants involved in terrorism plots in the united states so you have a situation where admitting people on the front end and bringing them into the country and spending billions of dollars involving
thousands of police officers, prosecutors and investigators trying to disrupt plots who are only taking place because of our migration policies. >> i just think it's odd to say you believe in the constitution and freedom of religion and then say we're going to target one group. one group based on their religion. all that can be true we shown just target muslims. we should look at our migration policies would looking at religion. >> we cannot continue to scapegoat one group of people. >> we have to leave it there. thank you for all being here and bringing your passions to the table. i appreciate it. coming up, secret prayer sessions at the white house? this easter sunday, an insider reveals how faith has lived in the quarters of power. [alarm beeps] ♪
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welcome back to state of the union. i'm jake tapper. the job of white house press secretary is stypically so combative. whatever parts the role leaves a flap jacket behind for the replacement. it was never sharper than the height of the monica scandal when mike mccurray was behind the podium. we're going to take a look at how he's traded in the armor of his old job for a new role in the church. >> it might seem like a long road from spinning the news. >> you got the statement i made earlier and it speaks for itself. >> to sharing the good news. but mike mccurray, white house press secretary to bill clinton during the heights of the monica
scandal said he always sought refuge from the podium in prayer. >> was it part of your life when you were the press secretary or bill clinton during that era or did you come pa -- >> i don't know whether that's a true democratic white house because maybe it's different in a republican white house but open confessions of faith weren't common. part of what i'm working on now is to say we should be more open. >> his new role takes him out of the briefing room into the classroom directing the center of public theology in washington d.c. >> so you want to train a new generation of religious leaders, ministers to help them with
people in their public life. >> i want them to be comfortable talking about politics. they probably avoid politics because they feel they're going to offend half the congregation. people can have much more civil conversations about things that matter. i think they would be more equipped to guide them. but to really draw out people who will converse with their better angel in them. >> do you think you did anything when you were in that job that was contrary to your believes?
>> the reason they're trying to slow the rate of the program is eventually they would like to see it die and gone away. that's probably what they would like to see happen to gingrich too. >> it's bad enough gingrich called president clinton and wanted me fired that day. i patched things up with newt gingrich. i do think there's some pennaan involved in seeing if you can make things better. >> what do we need to do to make things better? it seems uglier than it's been in a long, long time. >> that's a hard question. finding those gentle voices that know how to disagree and make points that don't inflame passions and that's not easy to do because sometimes the most news worthy, exciting people are
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