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this is "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. ahead this hour, major news in the battle between national security and personal privacy. the fbi has cracked a terrorist's cell phone without apple's help. plus, more raids and arrests in europe, but a key suspect in the brussels terror attack is still nowhere to be found. and the panic inside the u.s. capitol building after police shoot a man who pulled what appeared to be a gun. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm isha sesay. "newsroom l.a." starts right now.
the u.s. government is dropping its case against apple. it had been lobbying the tech giant to open up an iphone belonging to the san bernardino gunman. but the fbi says it accessed the data without their help thanks to an unnamed third party. it's unclear if officials plan on alerting apple on how they got in, giving the company a chance to fix that weakness in their technology. this case may be over, but we all know it has started a dialogue that could have major implications going forward. let's turn to the founder and ceo of ssp blue, an advisory firm for online safety security and privacy. welcome once again. >> thanks, isha. >> thank you for joining us. so listen, we talked about this. the fbi, the government said they needed apple's help, they couldn't do it without them, they needed their help to get into this phone, and hey, now they're in. i mean, what do you make of it? some are saying this was all
just a ruse, they never needed apple's help to begin with. what do you say? >> well ierk, isha week, in hollywood. you couldn't ask for a better hollywood skricht than this now. but i don't think the fbi was playing a ruse here. i truly don't think they were able to get in when they asked the court for help. apple said at 5u8 costs we're going to protect our users' privacy even if they're a dead terrorist. and eventually someone out there, and i think it's probably someone who works inside the fbi or contracted by the fbi, were able to find a way around. and in essence what fbi did was dig their own tunnel. even though apple was saying there's no way there's a way to do that. >> so apple may have the moral victory if you want to call it that. but i mean, they've got a bigger issue on their hands now that it's known that their phones can be hacked. >> apple has an on paper victory. but realistically speaking, i'm sure inside the walls of apple there's a lot of chaos going around right now, which is how did they do it? what's going on here? could our other users be at risk? it's not just limited to that
one phone. because if there is a way to do it on that one phone, it's quite possible that you could actually do it on another one and all the hackers in the world are waking up and saying wait a minute, let me figure one out too. so i think that's where this is going. >> you're in the tech business. do you think the fbi should share with apple how they did it? >> well, what's most interesting is apple actually asked the court to require the fbi to step up and say how did you do it. and the fbi is saying classified, sorry. that's what i mean. this is a script made in hollywood. >> but in the interests of all these other people who now are open to the possibility of their phones being hacked, i mean, that was always the possibility. obviously, it was just unknown. now that it is known, do you think they should -- >> let me speak actually from the white house perspective. the president has this policy in place that says if you find a vulnerability you have an equitable duty to share it with a company when you're in the government if it is what's called zero day.
in other words, there's no fix for it, nobody knows about it, tell the company whose vulnerability you figured out maybe in a counterintelligence activity as quickly as you can. i think the fbi and the cia and other counterintel agencies are going to have to debate that question. and at some point this means a dialogue needs to happen. so personally i think this is the most important time in our society where truly a trustworthy open discussion needs to happen between the industry and between the government. >> the debate between security versus privacy as some are pitching it is moving to europe, as you well know. what is your view of how the debate will take shape there? and obviously with events in belgium some are saying the authorities have an upper hand in this argument. >> well, absolutely. because if you look at belgium nobody saw it coming. and i think a lot of law enforcement is saying was it because they went to encrypted communications channels? is that why they didn't know? and if france, for example, they're driving legislation through france right now that
would require a prison sentence if a private sector company doesn't help in an encrypted piece of technology. so when apple made a competitive move to say privacy for our customers, we're better than other companies, what ended up happening i think and is going to be happening more and more is all companies are going to be attacked by law enforcement saying you know, what now we have laws, either comply with them or get out of the country. >> always good to get your perspective. thank you so much. >> thank you. well, one week after the terror attacks in belgium, the bombings are claiming more victims and authorities are on the hunt for suspects across europe. michael holmes is following all the developments for us from brussels and he joins us now. michael, bring us up to speed with the latest. what are we hearing from authorities? >> reporter: yeah, isha, we do have that news that the man known as faycal c., who had been
arrested and then charged with things like terrorist murder and attempted terrorist murder has now been released after a magistrate said the evidence against him didn't stack up. meanwhile, you've got authorities here continuing to look for two key suspects. that third airport bomber, a possible second man involved in the metro attacks. but they're not the only ones being hunted. the manhunt continues for the third unidentified bomber at the brussels airport and a second man believed to have been involved in the metro attack. they're among at least eight suspects authorities are still searching for throughout europe in connection to last tuesday's blasts. police have carried out raids every day since the attacks and rounding up what they allege are members of a wider terrorism cell. three men were charged in belgium on monday, accused of participating in the activities of a terrorist group. in germany two men arrested, and in italy algerian man jamaal
eddine ouali was taken into custody accused of providing fake residency documents for najim laachraoui, one of the brussels airport killers, suspected of making the bombs used in both the brussels and paris attacks. at the same time raids and arrests in connection to a foiled paris plot. that plan began to unravel on thursday when french authorities after weeks of investigation arrested reder kriket, an associate of abdul-hamid abaaoud. explosives and kalashnikov rifles found in kriket's apartment. so too information that led police to another two men who were swooped up in bruce sxlz a french national arrested in the netherlands on sunday. the french government has praised police and intelligence services for thwarting yet another attack but warns the fight is far from over. >> we know other networks are still out there.
although we can say the terrorist cell who committed the paris and brussels attack is being wiped out, we are still threatened. >> reporter: as security forces work to further dismantle that threat across europe, the death toll from the brussels attack continues to rise. and yes, sadly, that is true, isha. the death toll climbing. word that several of those wounded in those horrific attacks have succumbed to their injuries in recent days. the number of dead now stands at 35. that doesn't include the three dead terrorists. several of the victims still to be formally identified, isha. >> it is all very sad indeed. and michael, let me ask you about the scene of one of the attacks, the airport. what are we hearing about when it will reopen? >> reporter: yeah, of course you've got one of the biggest, most important airports in europe closed at the moment because of the damage done by those attacks. i can tell you that today there's going to be we're told
hundreds of airport staffers there trying to work out some sort of temporary setup for check-in and security and baggage check-in and things like that. they've been trying to get this airport back up and running. as you know, this city is the headquarters for the european union, the headquarters for nato. so it's a pretty crucial airport when it comes to europe. at the moment a smaller airport outside the city is being used for some flights but most people coming in here are driving from places like paris and amsterdam. and of course with the tourist season approaching they do need to get that airport up and running. so they're going to be doing some testing today and see if they can at least get a temporary arrangement so that the airport can reopen. as you know, the damage done by those bombs was considerable, isha. >> it certainly was. michael holmes joining us from brussels with the very latest. michael, appreciate it as always. thank you. turning to the u.s. now. and police at the capitol shot a man after he pulled what
appeared to be a gun in the visitor's center. the incident put the capitol on lockdown for several hours. authorities say it's an isolated event with no clear ties to terrorist motives. our own brian todd has more. >> reporter: a chaotic scene in the heart of washington as visitors to the u.s. capitol run for shelter. >> we heard get out, get out, there's an active shooter. so we all ran out, went around the side of the building. police escorted us out of the building. it's one of the most stressful experiences i've ever had in my life. >> reporter: the incident sparked by a lone gunman who set off the metal detector as he entered the kamt'll visitor's center. tourists and capitol staffers were ordered to shelter in place. >> i saw everybody acting a little nuts and then i saw a policeman coming through and officers coming out in a row, just like sprinting down and they're going, move it, get out of the way, and then i figured something's going on. >> reporter: a female bystander was wounded by shrapnel. >> an adult male subject entered the north screening facility of
the capitol visitors center. during routine administrative screening the individual drew what appeared to be a weapon and pointed it at officers. an officer fired and struck the suspect, who was subsequently treated by medical personnel. the suspect was taken into custody and transported to the hospital for treatment. >> reporter: capitol police say the suspect acted alone and was known to authorities as a frequent capitol grounds visitor. this comes as tourists from around the country have flocked to d.c. during the popular spring season. >> with the updates they gave us, you know, updates and they were very congenial to us, very hospitable. and made us feel safe. >> reporter: this vehicle behind me, this dodge ram pickup truck with tennessee plates has been confirmed by police to be owned by the suspect. according to two law enforcement sources who spoke to cnn, he is identified as larry russell dawson. and according to court documents, he disrupted the house of representatives chamber
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it's fair to say donald trump and ted cruz do not like each other very much. there's been some epic name calling, mud slinging, threatened lawsuits and just a lot of bad blood in the republican race. and it is getting worse. cnn's sara murray takes us into it. >> reporter: donald trump is getting outmaneuvered by ted cruz in the delegate fight. >> i won louisiana, and now i hear he's trying to steal delegates. you know, welcome to the republican party. >> reporter: and now he's threatening to sue, tweeting "just to show how unfair
republican primary politics can be, i won the state of louisiana and get less delegates than cruz. lawsuit coming." trump's latest threat comes after a "wall street journal" report revealing even though trump narrowly won the state of louisiana cruz appears poised to pick up more delegates. >> i'm always amused when donald doesn't know what to do and so threatens lawsuits. >> reporter: the trump-cruz feud is continuing. as trump refuses to back off his attacks on cruz's wife, heidi. >> i didn't even know it was necessarily a very bad picture of her. versus melania. >> reporter: trump today speaking with conservative talk radio host charlie sykes. >> mr. trump, before you k5u8d in to my show did you know i'm a #nevertrump guy? >> that i didn't know. >> reporter: sykes repeatedly asking trump if he would apologize to heidi cruz. >> most real men when they screw up they'll go you know what, i was a hothead, i couldn't have done that. >> i do apologize. i believe in apologizing. before i would think about apologizing he owes me an
apology because what he did was wrong. he sent out a picture to people in utah -- >> actually, he didn't. you know that he didn't. you know it was a super pac. >> cruz also making the point that a facebook ad featuring an old modeling photo of melania trump came from an anti-trump super pac and not his campaign. >> the ad they put out was deplorable. and as soon as i saw it i denounced it. >> reporter: the republican rivals are also trading jabs over a tabloid report about the texas senator. cruz accusing trump and his backers of planting the story. but offering no proof to back up his assertion. >> these are complete made-up lies. they're garbage. but you know, it's indicative of just how low donald trump will go. >> reporter: a claim trump denies. >> i had nothing to do with it. the campaign had absolutely nothing to do with it. >> reporter: as the campaign devolves into an unsavory personal battle, john kasich is calling for civility. blasting out a fund-raising e-mail declaring "families should be off limits.
enough is enough with the mud slinging and the personal attacks." now, of course this battle is getting even more pitched. as we get closer to the wisconsin primary, the next big fight for the gop, right now it looks like ted cruz has an upper hand in the state but donald trump plans to campaign hard here this week. as for john kasich, his campaign has announced they are reallocating their resources. a nod to the fact they probably can't win here in wisconsin but they're hoping to at least pick up a few delegates along the way. sara murray, cnn, madison, wisconsin. joining me now is conservative writer and cnn political commentator matt lewis and cnn political commentator van jones is here with me in the studio. van also served as an adviser to presidents obama. gentlemen, welcome. matt, let me start with you. donald trump appearing on charlie sykes' radio show today and essentially sparks flew. the two clashed on just about everything. we should make clear that sykes is as anti-trump as they come. but one of the big headlines from the radio chat was the spat
between trump and cruz is not ending anytime soon. it just seems to be getting nastier. you're a conservative. what do you make of all of this? >> well, first it's interesting that trump went on that radio show with sykes today and apparently was unaware that he was on with a guy who had vowed to never support trump. i think he maybe thought he was going on just a conservative talk radio host and conservative talk radio hosts tend to like donald trump. so it might have been a surprise he was not going into friendly territory. look, i think this is really just -- it's silly season. it's an example of -- i mean, we have horrible things happening. very serious things happening around the globe. and donald trump is tweeting out things, you know, sort of saying my wife's hotter, more attractive than your wife. this is where we are in the state of the race right now. sadly, it's not surprising. it's sort of the denouement.
sadly we've got months more. i don't even know how low we might end up going eventually. >> van, to bring you in here, matt says it's not surprising. but to many it is surprising, especially what is happening in the world now. right now at this moment what happened in belgium. the fact that this feud continues and they continue to talk about their wives. >> it's kind of crazy. also it's not just belgium. you have hits happening in pakistan, incredible damage, women being killed. children being killed in africa, around the world. we talk about belgium, but this is a worldwide phenomenon. ordinarily, that tends to bring a country like the united states together. it tends to focus. it gets you more sober. this is serious stuff. in the middle of all this, in the middle of belgium, donald trump starts this fight about whose wife is hotter and who's sleeping with who. and i think it gives people around the world a reason to be very concerned about the united
states. >> matt, this situation between trump and cruz has many saying that the way trump is treating heidi cruz, posting that unflattering picture in comparison to melania trump, i mean, that's the image he put out there, some are saying that this is spotlighting the bigger issue trump has with women. that is in turn turning women off him in large numbers and it will hurt him in a general election. >> right. well, look, i don't know if people are going to remember this three or four, five months from now when november rolls around. but i think it's fair to say that donald trump has a track record of being what some might describe as misogynistic. and it's not just the heidi cruz stuff. that's just part and parcel of a pretty long trend. megyn kelly during that first, very first republican debate that fox news hosted pointed this out, and he later attacked her. so i mean, that pretty much says it all. republicans have had a gender
gap problem since -- i think ronald reagan was the last republican to win the female vote. so this is nothing new. but i just think donald trump compounds the problem. and he's going to have a major gender gap to overcome. and again, it's just amazing because republicans a couple years ago did this autopsy where they said we need to do better with women, we need to do better with hispanics, we need to do better with millennials, and trump is the exact opposite of what republicans were hoping for. >> van, donald trump is disrupting any plans the republicans had. but matt said they won't remember the situation with heidi cruz a couple of months from now. but the democrats will be making sure the general electorate does. >> yeah, absolutely. and the thing about it is right now if you had a normal candidate what we'd be talking about is the gender gap that hillary clinton has with male voters. but that -- you know, that would be very troubling. the thing is that the gap that trump has with female voters now
is so big we're only talking about that. there are some things -- i don't think the democrats should get too smug here. the democrats, oh, donald trump is so terrible, look, he's making a fool of himself. we've been saying this about him for almost a year, and it's surprising he's able to -- who knows? he might go and put a woman as a vp pick. okay? that might be something he might do to try to tamp down on some of this stuff in a general election. he has a lot more cards to play. but right now you could not write a better plan to lose a general election than the stuff he's doing. >> so much that touk about but we must leave it there. matt lewis, van jones, a pleasure. thanks to you both. well, democratic front-runner hillary clinton managed to land punches against both the republican establishment and donald trump. she says the party has allowed the extreme to become normal in politics and congress. >> another day another republican bemoans the rise of donald trump. they say a trump nomination will
set their party back decades. i agree. it will set the republican party back if donald trump is their standard bearer. but donald trump didn't come out of nowhere. what the republicans have sown with their extremist tactics, they are now reaping with donald trump's candidacy. >> in just under 24 hours you can hear the republican candidates answer questions directly from voters as cnn hosts a new town hall. viewers in north america can watch it tuesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. our international viewers can catch the highlights on wednesday at 12:00 p.m. in london. we're going to take a quick break now. pakistan is mourning the victims of a deadly attack targeting christians on easter sunday, and the country is cracking down on possible suspects. hear the prime minister's message to terrorists, next. and the disturbing evidence
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you're watching "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. i'm isha sesay. the headlines this hour. u.s. capitol police have identified the man who pulled what appeared to be a gun in the visitor center. 66-year-old larry russell dawson was shot and wounded by security. court documents show he was arrested last year for disrupting the house of representatives. the u.s. justice department has dropped its case against apple. officials say they've gained access to the san bernardino gunman's iphone without the tech giant.
instead the government had help from an outside party, which is troubling news for apple's highly touted enencryption. belgian authorities are hoping the public can help identify the third suspected airport bomber in brussels. they've released this video footage of the man they believed plantsed the bomb then left the airport. police are conducting raids across europe in the hunt for at least eight terror suspects. well two, of the identified suicide bombers in the brussels attacks were brothers. police searched their apartment and as nick paton-walsh reports troubling details are emerging on missed clues that might have helped prevent the bombings. >> reporter: it's the apartment at the heart of the brussels attacks where the back rowi brothers, ibrahim and hamid lived and made the bombs that tore through the airport. this video shot monday shows how police left it. but a source with knowledge of the brothers' lives there has revealed to cnn the remarkable
incident. just ten days ahead of the blasts. he explained to cnn that as this exclive video shows police have sealed off both the top floor where the brothers lived and the one below it. why? because the brothers spilled so many chemicals ten days before the blasts when preparing their bombs it leaked through the top floor into the apartment below. the fact that chemicals could have leaked between entire floors in that building betrays really how careless the brothers must have been with the liquids they used to build those bombs but also how many signs there were to the outside world that something was amiss. one man who regularly met the brothers there and doesn't want to be identified for his own safety told cnn they were kind men and only had two beds and a refrigerator in the apartment. each time they went up with things in their hands, suitcases, things like that, he said. when you saw their face you'd have no idea they were terrorists because they were good people.
i just saw one visitor, just one time. the man he recognized as airport bomber and isis bomb maker najim laachraoui. his expertise would have been vital to the brothers? preparing the bombs. he also explained the brothers kept their working clothes and overalls in the basement of the building. another mysterious window onto what the brothers did there with such impunity for so long. nick paton-walsh, cnn, brussels. well, earlier i spoke with cnn intelligence and security analyst bob baer about the investigation beginning with the release of that terror suspect, the arrest and release of that terror suspect faycal c., and his eventual release. >> mr. baer, always good to have you with us. the very fact the very fact that the belgian authorities arrested, charged, and then let go of this faycal c. has many scratching their heads wondering what kind of
operation is being run here. in your view, how big a misstep is this? >> i don't think it is a misstep, isha. i think they're playing catch-up ball. they've ignored this threat forever. the jihadi threat. and what they're doing is just arresting everybody connected to this cell, whether they have evidence or not. and once they check the alibis and they release the guy -- but because they don't have any intelligence sources inside the cell, they have to knock down doors and arrest anybody they can. i mean, they are way behind on this. because they haven't begun to identify the entire cell. that's including paris. >> as we talk about the cell, let me ask you, how big do you think it is? this man in white, who we've seen the pictures, yet they haven't been able to identify, is obviously getting help from people. how big is this? what do you think? >> first of all, look at the man in white. he's got this goatee. i wonder if it's real. he's got the glasses. he's got the hat. it looks to me like he was trying to break up his face. this is a typical disguise, breaking up your face. so they're not even sure from
the biometrics who he is. they can't compare with pictures. so he may have been simply a minder that took them there, made sure they went through with the fact and waited outside. we'll have to wait and see in this. but as far as the cell goes, you haveo remember that there's the unwitting part and the witting. i mean, you don't let everybody in on the plans. so there's a lot of people that may have thought this was just a criminal group they were helping stealing passports, fake i.d.s, guns and the rest of it, they didn't even know there was terrorism. so we could be talking about the entire cell, several hundred at least. >> several hundred people. >> yeah. >> so how do you approach that? take me inside an operation like that. several hundred. you've got an individual who may have done things to disguise his appearance. i mean, how do you do this? >> you have to run down first of all the data analytics to figure out how big it was. who was communicating with encrypted cells. right off the bat.
that should make you suspicious. how do they get their arms, was it from criminal groups or a witting part of this cell? the problem with the belgians is they've gone all these years and allowed this weapons trade to go on. europe is not accustomed to this. this is something new. kalashnikovs. and then you have the people buying the chemicals, the peroxide and the acetone. that was probably done wittingly. so you have all these people. so we're talking, this is an open-ended investigation, may go on for months or years. >> just very quickly, bob, the people they do have in custody, i mean, how do you even approach the questioning, the interrogation, bearing in mind you're trying to -- you're battling against a clock with fears there could be another attack anytime. >> yeah, the problem is these people have become believers clearly if they're going to commit suicide in an attack like this. so getting them to talk in prison is virtually impossible. i spent a lot of time in prisons talking to these people. they never give up details, even
when they're going to be in for life because -- >> they don't speak. >> they don't speak. or they lie to you. and i think abdeslam, one of the paris organizers, was probably lying to the police and they probably knew it. can you break them down over years? maybe, maybe not. >> bob baer, so good to have you with us here in the studio. >> thank you. well, authorities in pakistan have arrested a number of suspects in connection with the easter sunday bombing targeting christians in lahore. security forces carried out raids in three cities and recovered a huge cache of weapons. pakistan's prime minister is vowing to avenge the victims. cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson has the details. >> reporter: callous, calculated and cold-blooded. more than 70 dead from a single suicide bomber targeting families, enjoying a warm easter evening at a crowded play park.
>> translator: we suddenly heard the sound of an explosion from inside. i parked my bike and rushed inside. i picked unthe injured to move them away from there. i saw bodies, many injured people. men, women, and children were lying there. >> reporter: the park in the center of lahore, heartland of pakistan's ruling party. prime minister nawaz shareef canceling a trip to washington wednesday, vowing revenge. >> translator: we are accounting for each and every drop of blood of our martyrs. this score is being settled. >> reporter: more than 300 injured. hospitals frantically trying to save those they could. more than 1/3 of the victims children. >> it was just a lot of patients, a lot of chaos initially. >> reporter: jamat al akhra, a
splinter group of the pakistani taliban, the tpp, claiming they were attacking christians, a message to the government at the beginning of a new bombing campaign. they have a track record of killing christians, and early this month apparently targeting american interests. in this photo shown after the remains were removed the killing of two local u.s. consular employees in a roadside bomb attack in pakistan's tribal border region. as the dead from the easter evening attack were buried, amid the grieving the lie of the terrorists all too clear. not just christians but muslims too laid to rest. >> translator: we will not let them rise again, god willing. we will not let the terrorists to play with the lives of the pakistani people. this is my resolve.
>> reporter: it is a promise pakistan's prime minister may struggle to deliver quickly. nic robertson, cnn, london. a quick break now. to the u.s. presidential race. when we come back. and a look at the women behind the top republican candidates. we'll see why they're getting so much attention on social media. ? we could do tacos. we could do some thai. ooo... how 'bout sushi, eh? (dog yawns) no, we're not having barbecue... again. (dog groans) why? because you're on four legs, and i'm on two... and i'm driving. that's why. (dog whines) sushi it is. lease a 2016 lincoln navigator for $599 a month only at your lincoln dealer.
hello, everyone. california could become the first u.s. state to have a $15 minimum wage. on monday governor jerry brown announced a deal with lawmakers and labor unions to increase the current $10 wage over the next six years. californians were set to vote in november on a plan to raise the minimum wage over the next few years. but if this draft comes to law, labor unions will pull that ballot measure. well, georgia governor nathan deal says he will veto a bill that critics say discriminates against gays and
lesbians. the bill would give religious organizations the option to deny jobs and services to gay people. a number of major corporations denounced the bill, and some threatened to boycott the state if the governor signed the legislation. well, they've been in headlines a lot lately. even though neither one of them is running for office. heidi cruz and melania trump are the subject of a bitter battle between the top republican presidential candidates. randi kaye has more on the women behind the white house hopefuls. >> i was ted's very first fan. his number one fan. his biggest fan. his very first fan. and i am still his very, very biggest fan. >> reporter: heidi cruz stumping for her husband, ted cruz. she is not the type to sit on the sidelines. >> ted and i are a partnership. and it has been the hallmark of
our marriage really since day one. >> reporter: that partnership is in full swing, with heidi on leave from her job as an investment manager at goldman sachs to focus on helping her husband win the white house. >> i really encourage you to vote for ted cruz. >> reporter: as her husband's chief fund-raiser, she helped raise over $50 million last year. the california-born heidi nelson studied economics and international relations in college. a family trip to washington when she was a child reportedly got her interested in politics. her mother told the "washington post" that by fifth grade heidi had announced she hoped to attend harvard business school. which she later did after a short stint on wall street. she met her future husband while work for the george w. bush campaign in 2000. the couple now has two daughters. when things get stressful on the trail, he turns to heidi to burn off some steam, calling her to sing her broadway show tunes. >> he loves "phantom of the opera," and he loves "les mis."
>> reporter: unlike heidi cruz, melania trump is more often seen than heard. though in this rare moment on the campaign trail she took the mike and spoke to south carolina voters. >> just want to say an amazing place, south carolina. congratulations to my husband. he was working very hard. and he loves you. we love you. >> reporter: melania also once fielded questions in the spin room following a debate. >> great evening. yes. just the way it was handled was very fair and elegant and fair questions. and so all about the economy and business. and he's master at that. >> reporter: still, melania stays behind the scenes most days, off the trail and at home, caring for the couple's young son, baron. >> he needs a parent at home. i'm teaching him morals and values and preparing him for his life, to be an adult. >> reporter: melania told anderson cooper she gives her husband advice but doesn't try to change him. >> he's an adult.
he knows the consequences. and so i let him be who he is. i give him my opinions many, many times. >> reporter: melania knauss as she was formerly known is a slovenian immigrant who became a naturalized citizen in 2006. she had a successful modeling career and med donald trump at a fashion week party in 1998. she would later become his third wife. and in this wild campaign his greatest defender. >> he's with the momentum. he goes with the flow. he goes with the people. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, new york. well, don't forget the gop candidates will take the stage in just under 24 hours. the cnn's republican town hall. viewers in north america can watch it tuesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. our international viewers can catch the highlights on wednesday at 12:00 p.m. in london. next on "cnn newsroom l.a.," a new proposal could let people
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could soon change. the screening room would allow people to watch movies at home on the same day they made their big-screen debuts. users would need to buy a special set-top box and they'd have to pay a $50 fee to rent the movies for a two-day period. $50. that means no more standing in line, screaming kids or rude patrons. but the proposal, led by entrepreneur and napster co-founder shawn parker, has pitted some of hollywood's biggest names against movie theaters. joining us, sandro monetti the managing editor of the los angeles business journal. i call you our because you're here all the time. this is a sign of the times how far things have come. but this proposal by shawn parker, $50. i couldn't even get the words out. $50 to rent a movie. who's he aiming this at? >> shawn parker is a true entrepreneur. you've got to admire the guy. he really comes one these wild
ideas that can disrupt the industry. he's aiming it at, for example, imagine you're a young couple with a baby, you can't go out to an opening weekend. you can't get a babysitter. but now why not stay home, watch "batman vs. superman." it's cheaper than paying a babysitter, parking, all that expensive popcorn, which is marked up 85%, by the way, over market prices. >> a lot of diapers you could buy. >> a lot of diapers you could buy for $50. so there is a market out there. and as long as there's a market out there there's a service to provide for it. imagine if you have 10 little girls wanting a sleepover to watch a movie together. >> 5 bucks each. >> thank you, tiffany. thank you, sharmane. that will be five bucks. thank you. pay mummy. it could work. >> it could work. it seems a little devious to me. but listen, again, it's technology. you can't stand against progress. but there are some in hollywood who are very against this. break down the counts for me. >> i've never seen an issue
which has so divided a-list filmmakers in favor of this idea the likes of "star wars: the force awakens" director j.j. abrams, hollywood legend steven spielberg and martin scorsese. >> heavy hitters. >> big heavy hitters against other heavy hitters. "avatar's" james cameron. "batman's" christopher nolan. we're talking about the a-list divided. and they're divided because no one can decide in hollywood whether this is going to create new revenue streams or cut into existing revenue streams. >> can those who are against it stop it? >> they have before. this idea was first floated back in 2011 by directv. and then a coalition of filmmakers including james cameron back then and the likes of guillermo del toro stepped forward to stop it. but times have changed over the last five years. now we're in an era where the environment is ready for this because there's so many more platforms for enjoying entertainment at home and on handheld devices and in the home. and also, i just think that this
time you have shawn parker and he is a kind of vigorous huckster who can probably get this through. he's very cleverly not keeping all the money for himself, but he's tying in the studios. oh, the studios, you can have some money. and the exhibitors, you can have some money as well. and the major american movie chains have been against it. but reportedly, amc, which is owned by china's wanda group are close to signing on, are interested. so i think this idea could have legs. >> i'm just such a luddite. there's something to be said for the rude patrons and screaming kids and watching it together. that experience, that is part of the experience. >> this is the argument of the filmmakers who are against it, saying this will kill the communal experience of going to the movies. i disagree. history shows us that nothing can kill off going to the movies. when television started, everyone thought the movies were over. well, it seems 60 years later we're still going to the movies. shawn parker can destroy a lot of things. but in music, when he co-created napster, he certainly disrupted the music industry.
but i don't think the era of going to the movies is going to come to an end. it's just going to change. >> all right. fine, fine. let's see what happens next. i feel very old with all this technology, this newfangled stuff. >> you're not as old as me, isha. don't worry about it. >> that's true. sandro, always a pleasure, my friend. thank you. and this is "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. thank you for watching. i'm isha sesay. for our viewers in north america, "amanpour" is neck. for everyone else the news continues with michael holmes in bruce sxlz errol barnett at the cnn center right after this. .
tonight crackdown in pakistan after islamic militants carry out a brutal suicide bombing on christians in lahore killing 70 people and injuring hundreds more. and as the group threatens fresh violence we get answers from pakistan's ambassador to the united nations, la lee ha lodhi. also hope among the ruins. syria's antiquities chief joins us about recapturing the ancient city of palmyra from isis.
>> today i can confirm you that i am the happiest person in the world. good evening, everyone. welcome to the program. i'm christiane amanpour in new york. an easter sunday slaughter in lahore. the sounds of children laughing, quickly turned into screams of sheer terror when a suicide bomber blew himself up at their playground. 72 people are dead and hundreds more are wounded. many of them women and children. christians were the targets says jamaat ul ahrar, a pakistani taliban splinter group which claimed responsibility for the attack. the army is on the hunt for the militants saying they've already made several arrests and car aried out raids in three
different cities. the prime minister has canceled his upcoming trip to the united states this week and has visited survivors at the hospital. he has pledged to wipe terror from the country but given the complicated and entrenched militant web there it is an enormous challenge and joining me now is maleeha lodhi, the pakistani ambassador to the united nations. welcome, ambassador. >> first and foremost do you even know who this group is? do you know what you're going after? it's a splinter group. >> yes, i think we have to put what happened, the tragedy in my country is in mourning but i can tell you my country is united in its resolve to deal with this as the prime minister himself pointed out when he addressed the nation earlier. coming to the group, we in pakistan have been in the final phase of an operation in what is called north waziristan, one of the tribal agencies and in the final phase because just about a month ago we wanted into shaval
valley, the final phase of the operation. and -- >> are you saying they're under pressure and this is what is happening? >> we believe the militants are on the run, feeling the heat and one of the things they did was exactly what you saw which is to attack a soft target. >> do you agree that it was religiously motivated, in other words, christians were the target? >> i think the important thing is that the militants themselves have no regard for any religion or any faith. and i think if you look at the casualties that are mounting because of the lahore attack, you'll see the overwhelming majority of the people who died in this terrible, terrible attack were muslims but, of course, christians also died in this so these militants have no faith, no creed, no religion, they attack with the kind of inhumane manner that is condemned by all the people in pakistan. >> you talk about tabout waziri. this was in punjab which apparently has not had these
kind of attacks. it is the home state, if you like of the prime minister and his brother is the governor there, is that correct? >> yes, i think -- >> you are saying they are on their defensive. here they are expanding themself. how much of a threat -- how much bigger of a threat than pakistan's taliban? they call themselves the real taliban. >> i think the important thing it's a splinter group of the ttp which is the pakistani taliban and because they've been under pressure in the tribal areas which our operation we must remember is one of the largest anti-terrorism law enforcement operations anywhere in the world involving 180,000 of our troops, so when they feel the heat obviously they're going to try to escape and hide and, therefore, it's important that we carry out operations which we are doing right now as we speak, there are raids going on. we have intensified our intelligence based paramilitary led operations in punjab. >> this sort of came today.
there were lots of announcements today -- >> no. >> it didn't happen immediately. >> they've been going on for some time. arrests are being made. arrests were made fresh today. >> do you feel like -- is there a feeling you got the culprit. >> yes, we will get to the bottom of this and make sure as the prime minister himself said that the culprits are brought to justice and i think the most important thing is the kind of public rallying that we've seen behind the government, behind the law enforcement agencies because, you know, to fight this we've got to have the public on our side. >> right. that's the question. you started by saying the real thing we have to look at is the unity of the people and how they're rallying behind the prime minister but at the same time, there is a lot of criticism or taking note of the fact that the prime minister despite his attempts has not been able to galvanize a nationwide consensus against these militants. >> i think we have a consensus. i think he has mobilized it and
you will see in the days and months to come, in fact, if he hadn't got this public consensus the military operation that has succeeded in making the kind of gains we made in the tribal areas -- let's not forget the head of this splinter faction of the pakistani taliban is residing in afghanistan. his name is khalid hokhorisan. it's a global challenge dealing with a challenge that other countries are also dealing with. never easy it is complex and i think one of the things that the prime minister pointed to is we need to work on both the law enforcement front as well as dealing with mind-sets and these are extremist mind-sets. >> hundreds of miles away from lahore you've got this other separate but similar situation, not similar but it's a big protest against the prime minister and against the idea of the whole blasphemy laws. you've got the big protest about
the man who was executed for having killed the governor. and, you know, the prime minister has been criticized and the government for having allowed these protests to continue and destabilize and get very close to the parliament. was it a mistake to allow them to. >> on for so long in this violent manner. >> for the first -- in the first instance you have to remember if it hadn't have been for the government and prime minister's resolve to make sure justice is done and the man responsible for the murderer of the former governor is executed and that was a your raines decision and therefore the protests that followed are a consequence of an important that the prime minister and governor stood firm on. well, if there are going to break the law the full force of the law will come on them but if the protests are peaceful, then, of course, we are a democracy.
>> you have managed get a quite a few moderates and imams and mullahs to talk against any kind of notion of religious justification for these acts of violence. so that's on the one hand. on the other there are still a lot of hard-line mosques even in religious schools where these justifications are still being taught. i mean, that very nucleus of what troubled everybody back from 9/11 still exists. >> i think we have in pakistan what we call a national action plan and many elements of that national action plan -- it's a comprehensive plan because we also understand law enforcement is only one facet or dimension of what we're trying to address. the complex is -- the challenge is complex. we're trying to deal with what you're identifying christiane, the kinds of places encouraging a kind of hate, a mentality and
we obviously want to end. and i think the prime minister and his government as well as the kind of outpouring of sympathy as well as political unity that we've seen from other political parties in our country say something about us. >> ambassador lodhi, thanks for joining me. when we come back, one step backward and another step forward, isis is on the retreat from palmyra. syria's pearl in the desert. imagine the centuries of culture they have wiped out. finding out what remains is next. let me talk to you about retirement. a 401(k) is the most sound way to go. let's talk asset allocation. sure. you seem knowledgeable, professional. would you trust me as your financial advisor? i would. i would indeed. well, let's be clear here. i'm actually a dj. [ dance music plays ] [laughs] no way! i have no financial experience at all. that really is you? if they're not a cfp pro, you just don't know. find a certified financial planner professional who's thoroughly vetted at letsmakeaplan.org.
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welcome back to the program. amidst the human cost one of the many tragedies of the syrian war has been the willful destruction of its heritage. they murdered the a renowned scholar. but the syrian army backed by russian war planes has just recaptured the city after days of fighting. and just earlier today, i reached the director general of syria's antiquities in damascus for a little bit of good news. you must be very happy today.
we see these pictures of your government forces having retaken palmyra from isis. how do you feel today? >> today, i can confirm you that i am the happiest person in the world. not just in iran, because after ten months of nightmare on palmyra, now i see that palmyra is very beautiful. the majority of the buildings are under control. it's not destroyed. the reason for my happy today. >> so describe to me then what isis did destroy, and did they destroy more or less than you expected? >> yeah. you'll remember through 2015, they destroyed two temples and destroyed also towers and the arc.
after this, they stopped last october because the local community through us played a good role to stop this destruction. it's the honor of the palmyran people, and it's also, economic for the future. we have an idea now what happened underground of the palmyra. what happened by illicit excavation. we know that a lot of the war by isis, i hope that not much more damage by excavation. >> so you're very happy that the culture, at least most of it there, has been saved. the bell temple and the others that you described, which were destroyed, can they be rebuilt? >> normally, as director of antiquitantiquit, we prefer consolidation and
restoration, but as message of war, if you destroy culture, we will rebuild. it's for this reason that we decided to rebuild this temple. it's possible. we need damage assessment. how many blocks destroyed by explosion. how many new blocks we need. we need also the control of that, but the majority of the work we finish after five years. >> director general aadbulkarin thanks for joining us from damascus. >> thank you. >> so if syria is the rubble into which hopes of democracy and freedom have collapsed, then india proudly touts itself as the world's largest thriving democracy. it has a young population that's booming, and i'm talking 1 million people turning 18 every single month, but my next guest says india is, quote, a democracy that makes promises it has no intention of keeping.
someelia san gupta lived in india as a child, returning some 30 years later as "the new york times" new delhi bureau chief. what she found was a vastly different and on so many levels, troubling country that she has turned into a book called "the end of karma." and she joins me now. thanks for being here. so, that is quite a provocative thing i just quoted from you. that india makes promises that it has no intention of keeping when it comes to democracy. what do you mean by that? >> you know, in my father's generation, he is part of midnight's children. he was born just before independence. at that time, it was said that democracy is just top dressing on indian oil. that indian society is fundamentally undemocratic in everyday life. i think that has really shifted. this generation i'm writing about, i call them noon day's children. they are red hot, restive, very pushy. now democracy is no longer topsoil. young people expect to be able
to write they own destiny, however, that requires something resembling requality of opportunity for both young men and women. and that is not in place yet. >> you do call it the end of karma. and you talk about sort of the philosophy is what happens to you somehow gets done unto others or vice versa. what do you mean by end of karma? because there is not just the sort of inequality regarding democracy. there's the whole caste system and the terrible deficiencies in opportunity. >> absolutely. i mean, you know, that is the basis of the stratification of indian society is that if you are born into a particular caste, historically, that has not only defined what you do for a living but where you are on the social ladder. what i'm trying to signal by "the end of karma" is that indians are trying to overcome their past. they're born with one destiny, they're trying to write another.
and i see that repeated across the lives of young indians. and in this book, i profile seven people, seven ordinary men and women who have come of age after 1991, but i think it's their yearnings that are really revealing some of the deepest and most fundamental fault lines of india today. >> you talk about seven people. i think one of them is vasha, the daughter of a laundry man and she wants to be a police officer. and it's all about education. now, i believe the father says that he's letting her study, but full well knowing that it might preclude her getting married because men of a certain class don't want smart, educated women. so it's sort of a double whammy? >> well, varsha's father is her champion, he is her backer. he does want her to get an education. he does not want her to be a laundry man's wife. but he doesn't want her to get too much education. he's certainly very wary of her working outside the home.
he can't countenance the idea of his daughter becoming a police officer. but why does she want to be a police officer? well, because when varsha was a teenager, there was that horrific gang rape of a young woman, very much like varsha, trying to really make something of herself, and varsha wanted to serve her nation. she wanted to keep women and girls like her safe. but she had to push and nudge her father every step of the way. so i tell varsha's story, because it's like so many young indian woman i know, who are trying to grow their own wings, but also it's a story of so many fathers who have to figure out how much they're going to let them fly. >> exactly. we had this statistic in the beginning. how many millions of people -- >> 1 million. >> 1 million turning 18 every month. and that obviously puts a massive burden on the infrastructure, on the ability to create jobs. what does that mean for
opportunity again if we're talking about jobs and money and being able to rise through earning? >> india's youth bulge is staggering, so right now the number of indians just between the age of 15 and 24, just that age, 420 million, which exceeds the combined population of the united states, canada, and then some. now, they are hungry for economic opportunities and so india's challenge is really unenviable. by some estimates, india needs to create 10 million jobs. by some other estimates that i've read recently, 17 million jobs a year. but it has to do this at a time when it's also under enormous pressure to reduce its carbon footprint and to do it in an era of climate change that affects india and indians quite seriously.
and it has to prepare these 1 million indians who are coming of age every month, prepare them for meaningful jobs in the global economy. >> somini sefgupta, thank you. after i break, imagine a muslim shopkeeper murdered to a fellow shopkeeper just for saying happy easter. that's next. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. that's why we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. here, there, everywhere. united states postal service priority:you
and finally tonight, imagine a world where a simple act of kindness and tolerance is met with a horrific and deadly intolerance. in scotland, of all people, where over the weekend, 40-year-old muslim shopkeeper assad shah posted a happy easter to his british christian community on facebook, and hours later he was stabbed to death by another muslim. and police are calling it a religiously motivated attack. shah's family, originally from
pakistan, belongs to a sect which preaches love for all and hatred for none. the shopkeeper was much loved in his neighborhood. flower tributes, memorials, and vigils have sprung up, including one attended by the scottish first minister, nicholas sturgeon on friday. meantime, a group of four friends who were regular customers created a web page hoping to raise a little money for shah's widow and the family members left behind. in a sign of how much the community thought of him, the fund has already amassed more than $110,000 from almost 4,000 donors. and that's it from our program tonight. remember, you can listen to our podcast, see us online at amanpour.com, and follow me on facebook and twitter. thanks for watching. good-bye from new york. no one's the same without the game of football...
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