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live from houston, home to tonight's ncaa final four. i am fredricka whitfield. thanks so much for joining me here. this is cnn special live coverage from nrg stadium ahead of the big games tonight. but first. republican presidential candidates are waging a fierce battle in wisconsin three days away, donald trump and ted cruz and john kasich are crisscrossing wisconsin today. these are live pictures of a
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trump town hall. we are seeing establishment republicans in this state like governor scott walker, uniting against donald trump. this is all in the context of a controversial week for the campaign. wednesday he told msnbc's chris matthews he believed women who received abortions should be criminally punished. he made four attempts to walk back and clarify that stance. he appeared on cbs last night, the law is set. >> you told bloomberg in january you believed abortion should be banned at some point in pregnancy. >> first of all, i would have liked to see this be a state rights deal. i think it were better if it were up to the states, but right now the laws are set and that's the way the laws are. >> do you have a feeling they should change? a lot of laws you want to change, you talked about from
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libel to torture. >> at this moment the laws are set and i think we have to leave it that way. >> let's bring in cnn's jason carroll at that trump event. jason, it is all still, you know, pretty confusing for many voters. to the best of your understanding, if elected would trump push to have row versus wade overturned? >> far be it from me to put words in his mouth. you heard what he said in terms of the law and letting it stand as it does. a number of women came out to the town hall that we have spoken to are curious, wondering if he will address this at all when he takes the stage in racine in a few moments from now. seems unlikely he would address the abortion issue, but certainly there has been this sort of back and forth, first saying women would be punished, after that saying doctors would
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be the ones punished, saying to leave it up to states, then finally saying the law should stand at least for now. his spokeswoman coming out with a statement, trying to qualify his position. let me read you what she said. says the following. mr. trump gave an accurate account to the law as it is today and made clear it must stay that way now until he is president, then he will change the lieu through his judicial appointments and allow the states to protect the unborn. there's nothing new and different here. that's why you see so much confusion among people that support him, some here in this room need to hear what he's going to say again when he takes the stage a few moments from now, fredricka. >> jason, people you talked to in wisconsin, do they think the controversy is contributing to low expectations for trump come the wisconsin primary tuesday?
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>> as you know, trump is trailing cruz by ten points, according to one poll going into tuesday's primary. certainly there's concern among voters that perhaps his message hasn't been as clear, could be effecting those out here who are undecided. i have to say a lot of trump supporters we have spoken to are just as enthusiastic as ever, despite missteps this week. one woman i spoke to, you know, is very aware of everything that happened from trump's campaign manager to statement on abortion, even weighing in what happened with the president and his statements about trump doesn't have knowledge of foreign policy. she said he is a common man, he speaks to the common people, we still support him. fredricka? >> all right, jason carroll there in racine, wisconsin. let us know when donald trump arrives at that rally as well. thank you. all right. debate feud igniting between hillary clinton and bernie
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sanders. the clinton camp accusing sanders' campaign of rejecting three new york debates that the clinton campaign proposed. clinton's press secretary saying this. the sanders campaign needs to stop with the games. over the course of the last week, we have offered three specific dates for a debate in new york, all of which the sanders campaign rejected, end quote. cnn's chris frates joining me live from eau claire where bernie sanders is going to speak this hour. frates, help explain what's going on here. wasn't it the bernie sanders camp that said for a long time they initiated the debates with hillary clinton, but to no avail. >> that's exactly right, fred. sanders people said they want to debate hillary clinton in new york, clinton people were noncommittal about it. now clinton people are hitting back, saying we put out three dates and they have been rejected and they should stop playing games.
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that's what clinton people said about sanders people. a few moments ago we got a statement from michael brigs. here's what they're saying, firing back, saying quote, unfortunately dates and times she has proposed don't make a lot of sense. the idea they want to debate in new york on the night of the ncaa finals with syracuse in the tournament no less is ludacris. we proposed other dates they rejected. we hope they can reach agreement in the future. sanders folks saying that's ludicrous as they jockey back and forth. it is the second time we have seen an aggressive hillary clinton. she slammed bernie sanders for lying about her record when it comes to what kind of campaign contributions she takes, saying she doesn't take oil and gas contributions, she takes contributions from people that work in the oil and gas industry. bernie sanders firing back yesterday, demanding apology from hillary clinton saying that he was right on the facts.
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let's listen to what he had to say, fred. >> according to analysis done by greenpeace, hillary clinton's campaign and her super pac have received more than $4.5 million from the fossil fuel industry. in fact, 57 oil, gas, and coal industry lobbyists have directly contributed to her campaign, with 43 of them contributing the maximum allowed for the primary. and these are not just workers in the fossil fuel industry, these are paid, registered lobbyists. secretary clinton, you owe our campaign an apology. we were telling the truth. >> reporter: so fred, the clinton campaign saying there's no way they're getting an apology, saying sanders is distorting her record, pointing out the fact that in that
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greenpeace report there was $50,000 in campaign contributions to bernie sanders from individuals in the report so that he shouldn't be throwing stones here, and it is very interesting, of course sanders needs to win in wisconsin, 86 delegates at stake. he needs to win 75% of the delegates left. hillary clinton needs to win just 35%. that's why going forward he needs to win wisconsin, trying to upset her in new york on april 19th. that's why the debate back and forth is so huge. that will be a very, very close an important date. we will continue to track that as well, see if they come up with a date they can agree on, fred, going into a very big new york primary. 250 delegates at stake there, second only to california. bernie sanders needs a big upset there to close the gap with hillary clinton, fred. >> oh, it's big. chris frates, the noise over debate between the sanders and
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clinton camp getting very loud as the noise in your background and mine also picking up. i have sound checks going on behind me at the tipoff tailgate party about to get under way in time for the ncaa final four tonight in houston. thanks so much, chris frates in eau claire, wisconsin. the wisconsin primary this tuesday could prove to be crucial in the republican race. there are 42 delegates up for grabs and right now it is ted cruz that appears to be ahead in the polls. i am joined by green bay's republican mayor jim schmidt on the phone with us. mr. mayor, thanks for being with us. you have said you are not supporting anyone in this campaign. what's your explanation as to why not publicly? >> couple things, i am not a member of either party. i am going to say we are going to create interest in this. the crowd in our city, trump and
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bernie are bringing in the crowds. i am sure that translates to votes. when it comes to security and people lining up 10 and 12 hours early, donald trump and bernie sanders who are drawing the crowds. in terms of how the voting is going to go, it's interesting to say the least. we have been visited by all of the candidates and of course cruz is coming back tomorrow night. bernie was in town last night. and of course hillary clinton was here wednesday. i'm not sure people's minds are made up. i know trump has stumbled a bit, but people are looking for some change. they've tapped into this, him and bernie, we need to go a different direction at the federal level, with more accountability. i think those two guys are going to do all right. >> so mr. mayor, it seems as though minds are changing just
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as the political winds keep shifting as it pertains to the republicans, looks like recent polling is showing ted cruz is getting a bit more support than donald trump. is this in large part in your view because of this whole slogan of wisconsin nice, that people aren't happy with the tenor and temper of donald trump lately? >> we are wisconsin nice. that's a true statement. you know that cruz picked up many more endorsements. i don't know that wisconsin is big on endorsement. he has a good ground game going, but i don't know. i wouldn't bet on that race because i do think that donald trump is still the agent of change that people are looking for. i think wisconsin is part of that. the country wants to see
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something different, something at the federal level, shake things up. i think trump and bernie are going to do well. i think cruz probably will win, but i wouldn't bet on that. >> and as it pertains to shaking things up, how about for the democrats? bernie sanders, a win in wisconsin for bernie sanders really would help narrow the gap between he and hillary clinton. what do you believe based on your conversations with, you know, your voters there, your electorate in your city, what are people thinking and feeling about the dems? >> i think bernie is going to win. he is drawing so many people. just there's a lot of energy. and bernie sanders has been working in wisconsin for some time. the students for bernie, i have three kids in college, they're marketing to students.
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and the nurses have a bus going around the city nurses for bernie, and waiting lines, turning people away at some pretty big venues. i think he is going to win wisconsin. i do. just a gut feel i have. he has been working hard, drawing crowds. i think wisconsin is going to go with bernie on the democrats' side. i do. >> i got you. all right. go ahead. >> i think it's interesting. i know absentee voting is up, but i think there's still a lot of undecided people out there. i do. i think the next couple three days, this weekend is important. i don't think anybody runs away real big, but i still think there are a lot of people make up their mind in a couple, three days. it will be interesting. i think wisconsin will be a player.
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>> mayor james schmidt, thank you so much. appreciate it. green bay, wisconsin. i appreciate it. while the political winds are shifting, we're feeling the texas winds in houston. right outside nrg stadium here. tonight you have the big dance. the final four in the ncaa. also straight ahead, a startling new discovery in the hunt for malaysia airlines flight 370. a piece of debris from the plane that went missing more than two years ago. plan today. not now! i'm cleaning the oven! yeah, i'm cleaning the gutters! washing the dog! washing the cat! well i'm learning snapchamp! chat. chat! changing the oil... (vo) it's surprising what people would rather do than deal with retirement. pressure-washing the... roses. aerating the lawn! (vo) but with nationwide it's no big deal. okay, your retirement plan is all set. nationwide? awesome. nice neighborhood.
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all right, welcome back. let's take you to eau claire, wisconsin, bernie sanders stumping there ahead of the primaries in wisconsin. >> we are doing something pretty unusual in american politics. we're telling the truth.
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all of you know in our own personal lives and in political life, the truth is not always easy or pleasant, but you don't go forward and improve the situation unless you have the courage to deal with those truths. [ cheers and applause ] and here are some of the truths that we are dealing with. number one, sad to say but we are living today with a corrupt campaign finance system which is undermining american democracy. [ cheers and applause ] now, i wish i did not have to say that to you, but that is the
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reality. the reality today is that we have a handful of billionaires, people like the koch brothers and others who are prepared to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars on elections in order to support candidates who will represent the wealthy and the powerful. when you have a handful of billionaires trying to buy elections, that's not called democracy, that's called called algarchy. second of all, not related, something that concerns me very much in terms of what's happening nationally and here in
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the great state of wisconsin. and that is we have republican governors who are working overtime trying to suppress the vote trying to make it harder for people to participate in the democratic process. i believe that that is outrageous and i believe that is unamerican. [ cheers and applause ] >> all right, bernie sanders in eau claire, wisconsin, getting rousing applause when he talks about his campaign represents telling the truth and saying there's a lot of criticism he has about what he calls corrupt campaign finance system, calling it anal gar key, and shaking the
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finger at the wisconsin governor from in large part responsibility for new voter requirement id laws that some reports indicate some 300,000 people would be left out of the opportunity to vote the primary and upcoming election. we will keep a close watch on the bernie sanders campaign. sort of some subtle if not overt digs at the clinton campaign, particularly because there's back and forth feuding between the clinton and sanders campaign over whether upcoming debates leading to the new york primary will indeed happen and whether one campaign is being disingenuous than the other about availability. more on that. talk about north dakota as well, gettin presidential attention today as the battle for delegates in the race for the republican nomination is heating up. ted cruz is one upping his opponents by showing up to make
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his pitch in person. cnn correspondent phil mattingly is in fargo, north dakota. phil? >> reporter: fredricka, i know you think you got the plum assignment at the center of the sports universe today, but fargo, north dakota is the center of the political universe. you wouldn't expect this to necessarily matter. it is a state that doesn't have a caucus or primary. it has 28 unbound delegates, those become extraordinarily important as all of the candidates try to get to 1273. the number to get the republican nomination. they'll elect the delegates. they don't have to vote for a specific candidate. you see ted cruz here. carly fiorina working with the cruz campaign. ben carson lobbying for donald trump. smith, former senator here for john kasich as well. talk about what's going on behind the scenes, candidates and campaigns try to lock up some commitments from potential delegates. there are actual rooms at a
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hotel across the street where the campaigns are wining and dining potential delegates, trying to get them in line. why does it matter? 1237, that's what they need to get to in cleveland. the hope is these delegates not committed to a single candidate can help them get to that point at some point in july. fredricka? >> phil mattingly, thank you so much. appreciate that. meantime, the leading republican, donald trump, set to host a town hall in racine, wisconsin at any moment. we will take you there live when that kicks off. stay with us live from houston after this. hands that build the machines, the machines that sort, stack and seal. these are the hands that keep private information private. these are the hands of pitney bowes, the craftsmen of commerce. these are the hands that dig for opportunity, identify patterns, and uncover risk. these are the hands of pitney bowes, the craftsmen of commerce.
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i am fredricka whitfield, live from houston, outside the nrg stadium, home to the ncaa final four this evening. you're hearing sound checks behind me. meantime, more debris washed up on a remote island in the indian ocean that may be from missioning malaysia airlines flight 370. the piece found thursday off the coast and was turned over to local police. australian investigator said they're aware of the find, expecting malaysian authorities to take the lead and figure out if it belongs to the plane that disappeared with 239 on board. bring in richard quest, and author of a new book called "the
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vanishing of mh370." and david soucie, analyst and safety inspector. good to see all of you. first of all, richard, what's your level of confidence that this indeed is another piece of that airplane? >> it's an internal piece of the plane, believed to be one of the panels from the business class wall. the patterning on the panel can very easily be identified and compared to existing malaysia airlines cabins, so you look, it is in the right place, where all the other debris has been found on the bewestern side, so it is the right place, with the right patterning, it is obviously from an aircraft. this is not going to be difficult to establish. >> so david, while as richard
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says seems like the right patterning, seems to have followed the same kind of ocean flow because of the other debris pieces found in the general, same general vicinity, in your view is it odd there are so few pieces that have been located? >> not really, fred, because of the fact once it is in the ocean and there are pieces, they disperse quickly, whatever makes them move above and under the water. doesn't surprise me there's such distance, 700 miles from the last piece found in madagascar. >> and david, in your view how long would it take, how many pieces would you need to help build a picture about what may have happened to this plane? >> that's a good question, fred, but in investigations in assembling what happened, it's a matter of which pieces you find. so it is difficult to put ka
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cadence on when we would get answers in the mystery. each piece we find, the fact that as richard said this is a piece from interior of the aircraft describes a different scenario than the flap we found awhile ago. in this case, that means the aircraft did break into pieces and pieces of the interior have been found. the theory that it landed softly and sunk would be in question if this is indeed a piece from the aircraft. >> richard, so much is said about the importance of the black boxes. but is the case that black boxes would never be found, there wouldn't be content on them to last this long, even if they were found, will they ever be able to get to the bottom of what brought this plane down with a handful of pieces over time if that's all they end up having? >> first of all, there's a strong chance the black boxes would still maintain their data,
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depending how it went into the water, if it had broken up. it is digital, solid state. there's a very strong chance that the data would still be there. on the wider question, the debris alone will not tell an enormous amount. you look at air france 447, one of the first pieces of debris recovered was a galley cart. and the galley cart showed how it had been compressed from the bottom upwards, therefore they instinctively, immediately knew the plane had come down like that, not nose first. so as david says, the more pieces that you get, the more you'll be able to look at compression, fractures, you'll be able to build up a picture of how that plane came out of the sky. what you won't be able to do is determine the cause of what led to that.
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>> david, what about those pieces and other pieces that could be found, erosion that might take place. how are investigators able to discern the difference between those kind of markers that richard expressed and erosion or other fractures or blemishes that happen as a result of it floating. >> those things that you would think instinctively would be a negative are actually a positive. erosion tells a lot about where it was, what water it traveled to to get to that point, because of different things that attach to it, and salt debris. the amount of salt, the time at which the particular pieces of metal erode, those are all clues in putting this puzzle, dynamic puzzle together. >> richard, what about jurisdiction from the very beginning, there have been discussions about jurisdiction much who leads the investigation, who acquires any
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debris, if found, and now again it appears as though there is a tangle over jurisdiction. >> i wouldn't say a tangle. the investigation, excuse me, is clearly malaysia. no dispute about that. it is their investigation. they have delegated large parts of the day to day work to australia who has the technical expertise and who is within the region the crash is believed to have taken place. with the first piece of debris on reunion island, which is part of france, so the french got involved. in this case, it will be the maur ishs authorities that get involved, they'll want to quickly pass to malaysia. if they can establish yes, mh370, that's the end of it. otherwise, it goes to cambria and the australians will do the
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final dotting of is and crossing of ts. >> thank you both so much. the new book, "the vanishing of flight mh370." thank you very much, gentlemen. you're hearing the sound check behind me. they're getting geared up for the big dance. the final four this year. it is like the super bowl of the nfl. houston housing the final four, and next year hosting the super bowl. up next, i talk to the mayor of houston on how he is keeping his city at the center of the sports world. three weeks of non-stop basketball. yes! no! enough attack ads and name calling... yes, that was a foul you jerkface! yes!
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of the final four. this is really just the beginning. good to see you all. thanks for hanging out with us in windy houston right now. this city is buzzing with tens of thousands of basketball fans, and that's because march madness, even though it is april, is down to the final four. they're playing right here tonight. i am going to bring in houston's mayor, sylvester turner. good to see you. >> thanks, fredricka. good to have you here. >> you have rolled out the red carpet. the city is so ready, so pumped up. this is super. what a setting at the nrg stadium here, which will are hosting four incredible college teams tonight. what does this mean for you? >> look, what it means for the city. it is a great event. this is a sporting town. just had the rodeo here, shell open, they're playing now. the final four. march madness in april. starts tonight. the super bowl is coming february 5th, here in the city. the weather is ideal, perfect.
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it is a great city. >> and the city is incredible. it is not my first time here, i have family here, simon family in full force in houston, but a lot changed with downtown houston, been a few years since i have been here, i have seen the transformation, the building, the hotels, the apartment, condominium living. did that help set the stage for an ncaa to be hosted here and now as a prelude to the nfl super bowl next year? >> all of that, i grew up in the city. the city changed so much in the last 30 years. downtown literally has been transformed. it is a major attraction center now. we are the most diverse city in the country, more diverse than new york, l.a., d.c., atlanta. >> i did not realize. >> the most diverse. 142 languages spoken in this city. >> why is this such a magnet? >> it is an international city. we are close to the port. we have two international airports within the boundaries of the city of houston.
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>> that's true. >> and a third, soon to be an aeronautical center. you look at the transportation system, oil or gas down, 40% dependent now on oil and gas, even with prices low, we are above on the plus side in job creation, you know. what i say to people all the time, you want to see what the country looks like in 20 or 30 years, look where the city is now and where we are going. >> there are so many athletes here, coaches with roots, who have connections to houston, texas. >> a lot of players will make houston their second home if not their first home, not just texans, not just astros, the rockets, a lot of people love the city. the weather is great almost year-round. this is one city you can come to and literally travel the globe all in one day. you can come to the city, you can go, we have a large nigerian
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and vietnamese population, you name it, you will find, i can be at one event in the morning with the latino community, in the evening talking to a pakistani gala. >> 142 languages in the city of houston that i now call my second home as well with my family being here. >> your second home, i want you to make it your first. we are ready for tonight now! >> we are. i can't wait. mayor sylvester turner, nice to see you. thank you for welcoming us all here to houston, texas. fantastic. thank you so much. we are talking about the texas winds blowing, the political winds are turning up, too, we are watching the campaign trail now. sarah palin in fact, former governor of alaska is speaking on behalf of donald trump who is about to take the stage in racine, wisconsin. we continue to watch and listen. we will be right back. this is joanne.
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two ncaa college basketball titles with duke university about 20 years ago, can you believe it, 20 years ago. he will be a commentator for tonight's games. sports is in the family genes. his dad is retired nfl star calvin hill. politics is also part of the hill family. his mother, janet hill, was the college roommate of democratic candidate hillary clinton. i asked grant what role he feels that he personally might one day play in the future of politics. is politics on the horizon for you? have you thought about running for office? you have been politically involved in endorsing candidates of the past, presidential candidates like clinton and even kerry. so where do you see yourself in the landscape of politics, national politics? >> i thought this was just for basketball. >> full court! >> i am just kidding. you know, i think i've always, you know, said that we live in
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d.c., the main sport, main topic of conversation is what's happening in washington, the political world. so there was always an interest and a bit of an appetite for that. you know, a lot has changed since i have grown up, political landscape, climate has definitely shifted a bit. so you know, there are ways to participate in the political process without necessarily being a politician. so i'm being very political in answering this question. >> you're helping me get to that area because your mom was also the roommate of a young lady, right, we know, hillary clinton, running for president. and how influential has mom been on your involvement with hillary clinton's campaign or, you know, are you thinking about potentially being involved any further in this run for the white house? >> yeah, no, i mean i've been
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involved in a number of campaigns, certainly president obama now, but the clintons, john kerry in '04, gore in 2000. the country we live in, you have freedom of speech, you have that luxury to be able to support publicly who you believe it's very subjective and obviously people have opinions and people are very passionate, a lot like sports, people are very passionate about their favorite player, team, so on and so forth. yeah, my parents have been great role models and influences in a number of ways, particularly in using whatever platform you have to try to support those that you believe in. one interesting story, my mom, everyone talks about, you know, being roommates, suite mates at wellesley, but my dad was a fraternity brother of w bush at yale, he is not on the right, he
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is very liberal, so it is interesting to see that. unbeknownst to me, i didn't realize this, my mom was a mentor to michelle obama, helped her serve her first board. they have been sort of this, you know, one, two degree of separation, one degree of separation from whoever has been in the white house since 1992. >> just recently you and your wife tamia were at the white house for the gala, dinner for the canadian prime minister and as you look at and assess president obama's, you know, last eight years, has there been anything in the last eight years that has further inspired your interest in politics as a result of his experience in the white house or what you've witnessed in washington? >> you know, maybe to a degree what he's had to endure has maybe discouraged me to a
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degree. you know, i just feel like, you know, i've never seen a president sort of have to, you know, endure what he's had to go through. but never say never. i've had a number of people try to encourage knee take that step. always leave a door cracked. you know? we'll see. i'm having too much fun with college basketball. >> incredible commonality. the sky's the limit. >> you make it all sound so easy. >> you made it look easy. >> i'll say this, look, the beautiful thing about sports, and what i love about the position i'm in, and getting a chance to broadcast the final four is that sports can really bring people together. it can galvanize a university. it can galvanize an entire country, and so when, regardless of religious beliefs, political
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views, what part of the country you come from, you know, everyone's glued in, and can watch and appreciate and respect the talent, you know, on the floor in college basketball, and watching these kids, you know, lay it all on the line and, you know, you see every year during the tournament, you see the buzzer-beaters. you see the upsets. you see the fantastic finishes. you see the emotion. and so i think that's what makes sports so great. that regardless, we can agree on one thing. it can bring you together, and we can -- you know, i may not be a fan of, you know, stephen f. austin, but i can, like, appreciate and respect and it can inspire me, and that's the beauty of sports, and we need to bring that attitude to politics. all right. ncaa champ former model star of duke university and formerly of the detroit pistons, orlando
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magic, sfeens suns, l.a. clippers. give grant hill all of his props there'sthanks so much. all right. meantime, we're also following politics even though tonight is the big dance here at the nrg stadium right there in racine, wisconsin. front-runner donald trump. but is he the front runner in the wisconsin upcoming primary? let's listen in to his town hall. >> -- i say that in a bragging way, because that's the kind of thinking we need here in the united states. we don't have that thinking. we don't have that thinking. and so frankly -- i really, i felt it was very interesting to say, an i'm going to mention self-funding, self-funding from now on because all of these people are controlled. ted cruz put his personal financial disclosure form in, and he forgot -- he forgot -- we, they want me to act presidential. they don't want me to call him lyin' ted. no, no. my wife actually said, now
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you're with sarah today. you have to act very presidential. and sarah would never say, lyin' ted. right? but people do like it. i'm being -- it's very -- it's very -- i'm being honest. don't forget, what ted cruz did to ben carson, who endorsed me, by the way, and he's a great guy -- ben carson was running a great campaign, in iowa, doing fantastically well, and ted cruz announced during the election, i don't mean, like, three days before, or a day before, when you can recover. he said during the election that he's gone. he's out. he's quit. he's not -- he didn't quit. he never quits. if you know him, he never quits. that i can tell you. giving me a lot of trouble. going one, right there. i said, boy, we're having a hard time with ben. but tough, really tougher than anybody else, but ben was, in a campaign, and the election comes, and it's a caucus, and the people walk in to the caucus, sit down, let us tell you something, ben carson has
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left the race. and they said, really? oh, but i wanted to vote for him. but he's left the race. potentially, who knows how many? but thousands of people voted for cruz instead of carson, which was very -- no. but that's -- that's, you know, really bad. then cruzaid he knew nothing about it. and, of course, he called ben and apologized about 12 seconds after voting ended. said, oh, good. what can we do about that now? nothing. i mean, they should have done something. frankly, disqualified, or the voter form. if you saw the voter form, worse. a voter form put out in iowa. so many things. so we say that. but i will say this. look -- ted didn't disclose that he's borrowed money at a very, very low interest rate, because, i guess, maybe because he's a senator. do you think that has anything to do with it? for whatever reason he barorrow money from goldman sachs, a lot of money from citibank and
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disdisclose it in his personal disclosure form and goes around having audiences like this and he'll say, you know, folks, we are going to take care of those banks. those bad, bad banks. going to be robin hood. help everybody. going to be robin hood but didn't disclose he's borrowing with the banks. anybody in this room would love to get the interest rate he's playing. oh, close to zero. and you've got to disclose that stuff. so there's such deception and such lying. in fact, when sarah came in today, i saw her this morning. we were talking foraliti aliti while. i said this politics is really a dishonest business. they say things -- i'll go into it, because i'm all about making america great again. very simple. very simple. [ cheers ] i did a show this morning with a very good radio show with you -- thank you. i love you, too. who is that? stand up. thank you, darling. i love you, too.
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>> all right. donald trump there, hoping to see that love at the polling station on tuesday there in wisconsin. right now stumping for any additional support there out of racine, wisconsin. we continue to follow the race to the white house and we're also following the excitement here in houston, ahead of the ncaa final four tonight. tip-off, north carolina/oklahoma, syracuse/villanova right here in nrg stadium. be right back. available virtual cockpit. wthat you can book on our apps to make sure your little animal, enjoys her first trip to the kingdom. expedia, technology connecting you to what matters.
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hello again, and thanks so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield in houston, home of the ncaa final four. we have much more on the big night in sports, but first, let's talk about politics. you're going to hear a little sound check, though, behind me for the big warm-up festive event out here tailgate party before the big dance tonight. all right. so politics. the democratic battle for wisconsin is heating up and it's getting personal. senator bernie sanders is in wisconsin this hour holding a town meeting in eau claire. today the sanders and clinton campaigns feuding over a debate, or proposed debate. the clinton campaign accusing the sanders campaign of rejecting three new york

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