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the gop well on its way to a contested convention. this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. donald trump is pinning his hopes on a win in new york. with a contested convention, could a stealth candidate rise up to save the day for the gop? plus the battle for what some states call religious freedom bills. some call it legalized discrimination. we'll begin with the breaking
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news out of the bernie sanders rally in philadelphia tonight. the vermont senator blasting hillary clinton and telling a cheering crowd he doesn't believe she is qualified to be president. here it is. >> secretary clinton appears to be getting a little bit nervous. we have won seven out of eight of the recent primaries and caucuses. and she has been saying lately that she thinks that i am, quote unquote, not qualified to be president. [ crowd boos ] well, let me just say in response to secretary clinton i don't believe that she is qualified if she is --
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[ cheers and applause ] -- if she is through her super pac taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds. i don't think that you are qualified if you get $15 million from wall street through your super pac. i don't think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in iraq! i don't think you are qualied if you've supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement, which has cost us millions of decent paying jobs.
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i don't think you are qualified if you supported the panama free trade agreement. something i very strongly oppose and which, as all of you know, has allowed corporations and wealthy people all over the world to avoid paying their taxes to their countries. >> that was bernie sanders just a few moments ago in philadelphia. democratic candidates trading rough blows tonight while on the other side. the republican battle between trump and ted cruz. joining me now, ron nairing and barry bennett, adviser to the trump campaign. ron, first off, i want to congratulate you on the win, your big win last night. why are candidate is calling
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wisconsin a turning point. but cruz is going to need 88% of the vote if he's going to get to that mic number of 1,237. how is he going to do that when he is polling dead last in new york? >> well, a couple things. first we have it take a look at what the lessons are coming out of wisconsin. in the state of wisconsin until about two weeks ago he was -- we were tied up there and then we started moving into a leading position. what we saw there is certainly a consolidation of the conservative republican base behind senator cruz and nobody in the country was paying more attention to who the candidates are and what the candidates were saying than the people of wisconsin and they embraced senator cruz and rejected donald trump. in the state of new york, that's his home state, you don't have the cultural gap you do between a new york candidate and a midwestern electorate that you did in wisconsin. donald trump by all means should do very well in new york. we're going to compete there, look for every opportunity to
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win delegates and support there, we have a sizable volunteer organization there but it's one state as we continue to move through the remaining 16 states and on to california, which votes at the end of the process where we've been organizing since the month of august. this is a long ball game. we're at about the bottom of the fifth. we have a couple more innings to go. >> bob, excuse me, barry, trump would have to get 59% of the votes of the future races. the math looks good for trump. new york, pennsylvania, connecticut, delaware, maryland, et cetera, but most people think that's not going to be enough. so -- >> well, they're wrong. >> is that how you see it? no? >> no, they're wrong. there are only three states left that are proportion an. everything else is winner take all or winner take most. we have huge states coming up, pennsylvania, new york, california, indiana. big states and lots of delegates. >> you're going to get to 1,237 you believe on the first ballot. >> we're going to get to over -- we're going to get to about
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1,300 something. >> how do you plan to do that? >> we'll take all in new york, 95. we'll cross 50% and get all 95. we're beating senator cruz in pennsylvania by almost 20 points. you look at all these other northeastern states where cruz is barely registering. he flirting with a 20 point threshold to even qualify for any delegates. today he was in the bronx and they had 12 voters show up. we're coming home and it's a whole new world for ted cruz. >> ron, i want to talk about the trump campaign responded to his wisconsin loss accusing the cruz campaign of illegally coordinating with the super pacs that support him adding this, "ted cruz is worse than a puppet, he is a trojan horse being used by the party bosses, attempting to steal the nomination from mr. trump." how do you have respond to that, ron? >> whenever donald trump loses one of these elections, particularly when 24 hours
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beforehand he was predicting victory, he does increasingly er erratic things to change the subject. everybody knows senator cruz has been challenging the status quo in washington, d.c. ever since he was elected to the u.s. senate. that's why the people of texas gave him a very healthy 17-point margin of victory in the state of texas, even when donald trump was predicting he was going to win in the state of texas. it very, very clear who has been challenging the status quo and who has been funding liberal democrat elected officials and that's been donald trump. >> you want to respond to that, barry? >> oh, yeah. first of all, i congratulate scott walker, right? we won 60% of the counties in wisconsin last night, but the suburban counties around milwaukee where the walker machine is turned out a massive number of voters. i congratulate scott walker. but it was scott walker, mitt romney and lindsay graham, these
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are the people behind the ted cruz campaign right now. six years ago ted cruz wasn't a member of the establishment. now he's decided to crawl if bed with these guys and they're using him to get to donald trump. once they get to the electorate, they'll forget him. >> that's a good strategy. is it going to work in future straits? >> there are no more scott walkers. he's the best in the country. he's mott goinot going to have luxury anymore. >> any time donald trump loses an election, it's always somebody else's fault. there's always someone else to blame. the reality is that donald trump did everything that he possibly could to win in the state of wisconsin. he added the number of stops he was there, he dramatically increased his schedule in the state, he was openly predicting that he was going to win the
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state, and he failed because the people of wisconsin were paying close attention to this, took a look at all the candidates, all three of the candidates tried to win, all three of the candidates were in the state, scott walker's name was not on the ballot, donald trump's name was on the ballot and senator cruz won not just by one or two points but by 13 points. that's called a shellacking. >> barry, let me get in here. do you have agree with the statement that was released by the campaign? it kind of makes him look like a sore loser, right? usually if you lose you say congratulations to my opponent. they fought a very good fight. it just seems like the adult things to do. with him saying a trojan horse and what have you, he didn't given go out and do a concession speech. >> he congratulated scott walker. that was the race. we won 60% of the counties. >> give me a break. >> go look at the numbers. it's true. >> to the point then, we know that he met with paul manifore,
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we're hearing reports of a campaign shake-up. do you see trump moving forward as the same sort of counterpunching, speak off-the-cuff candidate or does that have to change? >> think as we move closer that has to change. we have a couple more states to get through and then it will be coasting for us. >> you know, your candidates pride themselves, both of them, on taking on the establishment. at what point will you need the party on your side, particularly as we likely head to a contested convention? i'll ask you first, ron. >> well, senator cruz is the exact same candidate today as he was when he first entered this race with that very powerful speech that he gave at liberty university. what's changed is that as we've gone through all these candidates and the primary process has done what it's done to do, we're have carly fiorina,
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lindsay graham, jeb bush, scott walker, et cetera, have all come on board for senator cruz in addition to other noted conservative leaders like mark levin, glenn beck and the like. that represents a pretty strong cross section of the republican party. ultimately when we get to the convention, the delegates who are gathered there are going to look for a candidate who they can support who will ultimately put us in a position to win the general election, which donald trump absolutely cannot do. if donald trump is the republican nominee, it will produce a wipeout that no one in this generation has ever seen before. hillary clinton will be the president, we'll have a democratic congress and we'll lose control of the supreme court for the next generation. >> at what point do you need the party on your side? >> post convention for sure. that's where we traditionally heal is after the convention. that's why you see the bumps in the poll coming out of conventions. the two sides get to the and say we have to beat hillary clinton or bernie sanders, whoever it
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is. i always thought it was going to be hillary. but, you know, this has gone on for a long, long time. all the nerves are raw, but, i mean, you know, ted cruz doesn't even have a realistic shot of getting to 1,237. he's being used by the establishment to try to stop it. but mark my words, on the second ballot, ted cruz gets fewer votes than he got on the first ballot because all the establishment guys are going to try to elect their guy. >> that's going to be the last word. is donald trump rethinking his whole campaign strategy? is it too little too late? (bear growls) (burke) smash and grub. seen it. covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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a contest republican convention. sounds like a possibility. senior political commentator buck sexton is supporting ted cruz and kristen anderson, good evening to all. kristen, i will start with you. after last night's big loss, should trump be rethinking his strategy? >> what trump needs to be thinking about now is how does he rack up the delegates that he needs to get to 1,237. that's not necessarily going to be the sort of thing he can achieve with the strategy he's used up to this point, get a lot of earned media, have a lot of rallies. it's going to take a lot of man-on-man, one-on-one,
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persuading people to be trump supporters, making sure in states where individual delegates get voted on long after the state's primary, the slate's ready to roll. >> so the strategy moving forward should not be counterpunching and the way that it used to be? >> well, i mean, i think that what you're seeing is in a lot of cases where donald trump won, maybe the vote in the primary, that the rules state that the delegates are awarded by electing a slate of activists within the slate. and that's where donald trump has really struggled in the last couple of weeks, whereas ted cruz for months has been planning on this kind of a strategy. i suspect the cruz campaign thought they'd have a floor fight with somebody like a jeb bush but nonetheless has been built for speed and the delegate fight you're looking at. >> i want to hear from the trump supporter, she says he has to
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strategize more and can't be just the old counterprch aunche. andy, what do you think of that? >> i don't disagree. you try to win it on the first ballot, which our math shows he'll get to 1,250, 1,275, maybe even 1,300. if he fall as little short, 1,220, can you go the delegate route. a contested convention means you don't have a majority on the first ballot. pennsylvania has unbound delegates just by themselves. so if we're at 1,220 or 1,210, we're going to find 27 people on the first ballot to get it there. gerald ford did this in 1976. so there is a shot. i mean, i -- >> they won't be bound to him on the first ballot, right? can't they switch, too? >> our math shows us that there's a 70% chance most likely
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that trump will get to the 1,237 on the first ballot without any of these games. lying ted cruz is playing all these games because he has to. but with us, we can do it the honest way by winning these primaries. if donald does fall 10 delegates short, he'll have at that point and these are what the polls show, he'll have won 32 of the 50 states and he'll have about 3 million more votes than lying ted. so that means he just needs 17 delegates. >> i want to get buck in here because i want to ask a similar question that was asked during the last election. he's saying he has the math but is this real math or math to make the trump people feel better about where they stand sp. >> andy's a good man. i haven't heard numbers anything like that. the poll numbers would all have to be wrong in these states. he would have to have essentially ted cruz decide maybe to drop out. for donald trump to have a 70% likelihood of winning on the first ballot, that would require
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him to run the stable across the board. in some states where he has a pretty good shot of doing very well, new york is one of them and new jersey and other places on the eastern sea board but once you get to nebraska and oregon, these are places where ted cruz is going to do very well. >> we don't disagree. one second. just take a step back and look at the math. there have been about 1,500 delegates that have been given out so far. this is approximate stuff. i don't want to blog tomorrow saying andy's off by three delegates. did about 1,500 delegates. donald trump has won about half. he had a field of 10 people and now it's 3 people. if he can win 50% of the delegates with so many people in the race, him winning 59%, which is all he needs to win, 59%, it's very easy to do. >> but he just lost wisconsin and the numbers have actually been going against him in a lot
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of the states. he's been -- listen, andy, listen to me. to that point, then, if you want to get to where you say you're going, then they're going to have to be some changes. if you look simply at the polling and if you look at the math, the math that we have, we have heard that there are some staff shake-ups in the trump campaign. so what can you tell us about that? what is the strategy moving forward in order to get to where you're saving you're going to go? look, any time you lose a primary, there's going to be talks of how is the campaign doing? should there be a staff shake-up? there are highs and lows in every campaign just like in life and in business. donald trump understands that. he's a loyal guy, he's been loyal to his staff. is he potentially going to bring on other people? of course. he's bringing on paul manifort
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for a delegate strategy. we're not going to let lying ted come in and -- >> he likes that lying ted. >> i need to get kristen in. can we talk about kasich, john kasich. is his presence in the race complicating the cruz strategy? >> at this point it seems very likely if you're the sort of person that doesn't want donald trump to get the nomination, ted cruz is probably your guy. but we are headed into a batch the states, maryland, pennsylvania, delaware, rhode island, connecticut, these are the sorts of someplaplaces that be john kasich territory. he had a really poor showing in wisconsin. i think it really calls into yes why he's staying in the race. he wants to hang on to the delegates and knows the race is pretty likely to be contested and wants those delegates in his pocket but certainly in a place like, say, california where you have 172 delegates that are going to go by congressional
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district, there may be a lot of place where folks that don't like donald trump, if john kasich just picks up 10%, that could hand it to trump because cruz won't be able to get enough. >> i'm going to start bringing a calculator. >> sorry for all the numbers. >> stand by, everyone. what would happen a contested gop convention? how would the voters react and would it damage the republican party? that's next. [ male announcer ] this saturday isn't like last saturday.
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so what would a contested convention look like and what would it do to the gop? back with me andy dean, buck sexton and kristen soltis. >> we'll have to agree to disagree on those numbers for a second. even kasich knows it mathematically not possible. the only way he wins -- >> contested convention.
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>> if he goes into a contested convention and it goes into multiple rounds of balloting. the gop so far, the voters have had this absolute hatred of all things establishment, right? that's been one of the main issues for the candidates going along. there's been purge after purge. if you were the establishment guy, you were not long for this campaign. the two you have left, even though you have one who is a senator, are considered to be beltway outsiders -- >> who are you, who is donald trump and who is ted cruz to say you shouldn't be in the race, get out? he has every right to be in the race. >> i am one of the american gop voters that is furious about the establishment. if you had a situation where kasich is handed this, you would have a complete revolt. >> he is -- i think he's the only candidate that beats hillary clinton in national
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polling. all that matters is battle ground states. all the worst fierce ears of th establishment come true if -- >> there has not been a contested convention since 1948. do you think voters will find this as buck is saying, andy? >> i hate to be rude but in 1976 there was a contested convention. gerald ford beat ronald reagan. so just a quick -- >> i stand corrected if i'm wrong. sorry about that. >> no, no worries. don, this is your show. i'm not here to be weird. after june 7th, that's the last primary. if donald trump can't get to 1,237 after june 7th, that means that it's going to be a contested convention. that doesn't mean he can't win on the first ballot. >> my question was do you think -- i understand. you've said that. but do you think voters will find it undemocratic? >> well, of course. because the whole concept that
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our founding fathers understood is that there's something even more leadersh leadership, and that's how a person becomes elected. if donald trump is ahead of ted cruz, right now he's ahead by 2 million votes and ahead of kasich by 5 million votes. by the time the convention comes in july, he'll be ahead of cruz by 3 or 4 million votes and kasich 7 or 8 million votes. and the idea that donald trump who has won with the voters would be denied the nomination is not only bizarre, it dangerous for our country. >> go ahead, kristen. >> i take a little bit of an issue with that. >> me, too. >> first of all, when we're talking about the founding fathers, the constitution doesn't provide for the direct election of a lot of folks. we had a lot of amendments along watt that made more direct democracy. you have both party organizations do not have situation where will is direct election on the democratic side, you have super delegates and on the republican side you have this very complicated process
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we're going through now. if you pick somebody the end who is not ted cruz and who is not donald trump, you have a big problem. that would be viewed as the establishment coming in and stealing it from somebody who rightfully took it. but i do think that if donald trump doesn't have the majority walking into the convention and you have to go to multiple rounds of ballots, the rules account for that. the rules say some delegates become unpledged that they get to move around. this isn't breaking the rules, this is the rules. does the republican party get rid of rule 40 where you have to have a certain threshold to even be entered into nomination? i assume both of the gentlemen on the panel would say you should keep rule 40 in place, it benefits trump and cruz and keeps kasich out of the nomination. you have to have a majority of delegates coming out of eight different states. at this point john kasich has
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ohio, whereas you have trump and cruz who are that's not going to be a problem. >> they have to their own rules. >> each convention does adopt its own rules. i think it would get really big public opinion blowback if there was a perception the rules would being changed mid stream, even if it is generally legitimate to do that. >> there's also been talk about paul ryan, another possible candidate, and the bringing back of marco rubio, who at this point has more delegates than ted cruz. >> i would hope to bring back a delegate is to defeat hillary clinton or bernie sanders, who is feeling the burn these days. the long-term goal is that and it's going to require unification of the party. the only prayer the gop has of this not turning into a complete debacle or disaster is if either cruz or trump comes out of the convention with the nomination. what was the point of the whole
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process? >> i want to you listen to this. this is a conversation between trump ally roger stone and right-wing host alex jones. listen. >> we will have demonstrations at specific hotels where there are delegates so we can let them visually see the will of the people. we will have a daily protest. we will man the ramparts every day -- >> hey, it's a free country. we're staying in the hotel, we can knock on the hotel room doors, right? >> i will tell you which delegations are involved in the big steal, which party leaders are ring leaders in the big steal. we do not advocate violence. we're not talking about roughing anybody up. >> we're just talking to people. >> what we are roughing up is a presence to let the people feel the pressure of the american people and those who have bothered to vote in these primaries and caucuses.
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>> we're the victims they're openly robbing as we speak. >> is this what you want, buck sexton, or anybody else here? >> absolutely not. >> the moment you say we're not going to engage in violence, you clearly made mistakes along the way. i really don't know a lot of people other than perhaps a few kasich supporters here and there who disagree at this point. >> thank you, i appreciate it. all of you. >> thanks. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders will go head to head in cnn's presidential debate next thursday night at 9:00 eastern. and coming up, the battle over religious freedom bills and others call them legalized discrimination. my school reunion's coming fast.
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>> governor bill bryant signed a religion freedom bill this week. critics are blasting the law as legalized discrimination.
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joining me is paolo sandoval. good evening to you. what's the mood like there? >> reporter: the ink is still dry on it. people are still reading it over and trying to understand the legalities involved here. you'll find very different, very opposing views here in mississippi tonight. and also different takes on the law, different interpretations. even some of the legal experts we've spoken to are uncertain whether this will just affect lgbt people or perhaps single mothers. there are overall effects on people working in the wedding industry, deejays, florists, bakers. people living in those industries would now be able to refuse service for same-sex couples and not face potential
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punishment by the state. >> you spoke to two different business owners. what did they tell you? >> one is them is known as the cake king around here. he said he's the only black baker in the state of mississippi. he traveled around the state checking in on different bakeries. his take is a disappointing tone. he told us he's obviously quite upset with this law being passed. he's been the subject of discrimination before and now he fears the passage of this law may now lead him to move out of his native state. take a listen. >> we have to pretty much pick up and move everything just because i don't feel like that we're ever going to be appreciated here for who we are. we're never going to be looked at as equal. >> again, that's jeremy saying that, again, he is the only gay black male baker in the state of
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mimms according to what he's learned so far. and then you have the other side of the coin here, too, don, who are glad to see this now become a law, including a seamstress that we caught up to who works with brides on a regular basis. she told us she would never knowingly take part in preparing a wedding dress for a bride that would be taking part in a same-sex marriage. we asked her if she were to find out if one of her customers were planning to part in a same-sex marriage, this is how she would handle it. >> i haven't ran into a situation where there were, you know, two brides or whatever the case may be. but if that should happen, i would take a stand. i think christians should take a stand on their beliefs. >> again, you just haertd there from miss jackie buchanan. in her own words, she would
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respectfully decline and that's what she's asking business owners to do in light of passage of this law. i can tell you, don, the conversation, the debate is far from over here in mississippi tonight. >> polo, this is the latest in a wave of discrimination laws since the south legalized same-sex marriage. what exactly does the language say? >> reporter: we started speaking to legal experts immediately after the governor signed this and even before. what really sets this apart is under section 2 which sets apart three specific items that would be protected here, different religious views. that is that marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman, that sex is only for heterosexual married couple and that a person's sex is really decided upon birth. and that is why so many people are taking issue. again, supporters of this,
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including the state's governor, saying that this is simply protecting people's rights but then you speak to people like the baker that we spoke to today and they will tell you this opens the door wide open and sets things up for discrimination. >> polo sandoval, thank you very much. joining me, representative stvep holland of the mississippi house and director of the center for a religious and civil society. thank you for joining us. >> hello, don. >> what do you say to those who say it's discriminatory? >> i think they're mistaken. the bill answer as fundamental question. are we going to be a society who believes in live and let live where multiple views of marriage can exist or is it winner take all where they will coerce religious people and institutions to come along under penalties, under fines and
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revocation of tax exemption? mississippi has said no, we going to protect freedom and protect a 70-year-old grandmother florist from washington who was fined. it was about marriage ceremonies. >> with all due respect, this goes beyond marriage. it talks about sexual relationship, it talks about gender and all that. it goes beyond marriage. listen, i have to ask you with all due respect, it sounds likes the same argument for loving versus virginia, which was decided years ago between people of two different races. what's the difference here? >> i disagree. i enforced our a anti-discrimination law and this is entirely different. this is about religious freedom -- >> religious freedom was used in
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loving versus virginia as well. it said the bible said it was against people of two people marrying -- >> this is in response to an act that overturned the will of the people. it's the same belief that president obama had as recently as 2012. >> representative holland, you're a democrat in a conservative state. why did you come out against this bill? could it cost you? >> well, i guess it could cost me. i'm not worried about that cost because i believe strongly in what i believe in. i've been that way for the 33 years that i've served in the mississippi house of representatives. but i don't know why we need government sanctioned discrimination. it's just that simple to me. our state of all the states in the nation has a sordid history
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and some of us have tried so hard to move ourselves toward progressive legislation, toward better school system, toward better health for our people and statistically we continue to lag at the bottom. this was a pretty big slap in the face. i don't see this as religious freedom at all. i see it as the government saying we can just discrimination against whole classes of people. we went through that in the 60s and it hurts my heart, as a christian, number one, that we're not practicing love. i think that's the basis of christianity. the great commandments are love god and love your neighbor as yourself. i don't see much love in this bill. >> roger, here is what the mississippi aclu tweeted. "welcome to mississippi, the hospitality state that says you're okay only if you're straight and married, #shame on phil.
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look at all these companies that provide services and businesses and jobs to the people of your state. do you think this is going to hurt mississippi economically? >> well, first, everybody deserves to be treated with respect, absolutely. and that includes people who disagree on the position on marriage. >> but how is it respectful -- how is it respectful if you go into a business expecting a service and someone says to you i'm not serving you because you're black or you're gay or because of some other thing that they just don't happen to like because they say it part of their religion, that their religion doesn't allow that. how is that not discriminatory? >> again, i sued bigots for the justice department for seven years. i know what discrimination looks like. this is entirely different. this is a very tailored, specific, balanced law that addresses the issues related to marriage in a supreme court decision. it allows people to dissent in the wedding service context,
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religious institution, adoption facilities, it's very focused, very tailored and balanced. there should be room for people of faith to express their beliefs and not be punished by the government. >> isn't that what happens on sunday and isn't that what happens inside of you as the baseball sa bible says in this is about conservative christianity. it doesn't seem to respect the wishes of other people from other religions. it just seems to be focused on christianity. i need to get a break in but i'll let you respond. are these religious freedom laws damaging the gop and will the party pay a price in november? we'll be right back. you all chose the best tool for the job. wouldn't it make sense to make the same choice, when it comes to your truck? (all) absolutely. this is the 2016 chevy silverado. nice. a good-looking pick-up.
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♪ everybody put your flaps in the air for me ♪ i can't lip-synch in these conditions. ♪ savings ♪ oh, yeah could the religious freedom battle in mississippi have an impact on the election? you were saying, roger, how it's not discriminatory. explain to me how this is not discrimination. "under the law, they will be deto deny lgbt people marriage,
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adoption or foster services or decline to rent or sell them property." it sounds the same thing -- >> did says the bill would allow -- >> but the words matter. don, the word matter. that's what the law means. the words say it's focused on the issue of marriage. >> i think you're being disingenuous here. >> will you listen to me? under the law religious organizations will be able to deny lgbt people marriage. is that wrong? >> no. the clerks are required to provide marriage licenses. clerks are allowed to opt out under the law so long as somebody is there to provide that -- >> what if nobody is there? >> they have to take every necessary step to make sure -- >> what if no one is there -- >> they have to take every necessary step to make sure
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licenses are issued. >> adoption, foster care services, fire and refuse to employ them decline to sell or rent them property. >> don, this bill was so unnecessary to start with. i'm a businessman. i happen to be a southern undertaker. i own funeral homes. i own 100% of the stock in my funeral home. i would never do that as a religious person or a spiritual person. i've never done that in 42 years that i've practiced my trade. so this law was nothing more than the far right gop majority, super majority in mississippi brings this issue up just because they could and because they had the votes. it was unnecessary. it's very discriminatory to groups of people and if i want to deny somebody in my business service, i think i could do that. i just don't want to do that.
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it was not a subject that we needed to talk about. we've got public schools that are crumbling in this state, we've got health issues, we've got economic development issues. we can go on and on and the legislature should be spending its time dealing with those issues. this bill had zero hearing. it was sprung upon the legislature the first time with the previous question moved immediately and we had to vote. there was zero discussion. >> what do you think it's going to do to your state economically? >> i hope it don't hurt it. we struggled and we come a long way and we have a good state and good people. i have a daughter that works for toyota. she's their public relations director. they don't like this at all. nissan did the same thing. we just appropriated 300 million of money to lure a continental tire plan to mississippi. they don't like it.
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that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. "ac360" starts right now. good evening, john berman here in for anderson. tonight, can the donald take a bumping and keep on trumping? one thing's for sure, a night after the pummelling he took at the hands of ted cruz, high can sure draw a crowd. donald trump just started speaking with plenty inside and plenty of protesters outside. for the first time he spoke about senator cruz since losing to him last night. >> lying ted cruz came tonight. he couldn't draw a hundred people. a hundred people. i'm telling you. in fact, it was a big headline today in the new york post. he couldn't draw a hundred people. now, do you remember -- do you remember

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