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>> first we have other breaking news. we want to bring you out of belgium, a prosecutor saying that several arrests have now been made in connection with the brussels terror attacks. let's bring in kelly morgan and nick robertson. kelly, let's get to you. bring us the news. several arrests. what more are you learning? >> reporter: well, not much more at this stage. we don't know the number of those who have been arrested today for do we know their identity. as you say, they have been arrested in connection with the blast at the airport here in belgium and also the metro attack. we expect to learn more later with press conferences, that kind of thing. we doe know police have been looking for eight key suspects since the attacks. there have been european security bulletin launched on march 23rd, the day after the attacks. we know some of the names that were on that list. muhammohamed abrini was one of .
some of the names we know that were on it, there are people that police have been looking for. but as i say, we do not know who those people are that have been arrested today. we'll brick tng the details as as we have them. >> perhaps the biggest name being kicked around is mohamed abrini. what is his significance? he's known to be an associate of, and he was seen in a picture with salah abdeslam. that's right. he's been wanted in connection with to the paris attacks. and we know the eight people police have been looking for with connections are the two
salah abdeslam or abaaoud who was the leaders of the paris attacks. yes, you can see there's quite a tight web here and obviously we need to find out more detail. if it's indeed abrini has been arrested, paris prosecutors and authorities warned people to say away from him, warning he was armed and dangerous. so he is a key suspect and someone the police have been looking for. >> is there any idea yet of where these arrests were made? obviously a lot of the raids have been focussed in the area outside of brussels. what are you hearing about where the arrests have been made? >> reporter: unfortunately we don't have any detail on that yet. we know it's happened in belgium. we don't know if it's happened in brussels. awaiting those details and how many raids were carried out. interestingly, it comes a day after the prosecutor released
the new images of the third airport bomber, the new cc tv images, a series of images taken across brussels of that so-called man in the hat or the man in the white coat. basically showing the route that he took after he fled the airport. a route that basically took him within 15 minutes to the metro station bombing. he was there 40 minutes after the blast, and the question i guess is was this a journey that he took to witness both of the ghastly attacks. >> all right. kelly morgan in brussels. thank you so much. there are two breaking stories this morning. one a series of arrests made in and around belgium, perhaps connected to the attacks. we're waiting on the identities of the arrested. we'll bring you more information when we have it. also a shooting at lackland air force base. two dead. we're told deputies on the scene. we're awaiting more information from there. you can see live pictures.
deputies going building to building. two known dead. we'll get back to that as soon as we get more information. in the meantime, politics. do you know where your delegates are? this guy, he'd better. take a look at his face. can he count to 1237? >> i hope so. >> for once donald trump has said you're hired. paul man ford added with one job, get the delegates to win the republican nomination. listen. >> there becomes a time when winning isn't enough. it's how you win and how much you win. and he recognized this was the time, and he reached out to some people who suggested me. we got together. i've known donald since the 80s. and we talked about it. he felt i could help him as i felt, and he made the changes. >> he did. already making a projection. he says he's confident donald
trump will hit the magic number before the convention. here to discuss how this could change the game, bdana bash and aerl lewis. who is this man, and why does he matter? >> he matters a great deal. the motto of the campaign manager for donald trump from the beginning of his campaign j june 16th, until now is this guy is a thoroughbred. just going to get on him and let him ride. for the most part, it's worked pretty well. but now they're in a different state of the game. and, in fact, manifort said to me earlier today when he was here, he needs a jockey, somebody who's a little bit more experienced in organizing and directing the brand new candidate. and so that is what he has been brought an to do, trying to not
just organize the delegate situation but in the short term, trying to, as you heard him, trying to get to that magic 1237 before the convention. he insists that it's doable. but you have all of these anti-trump forces with lots and lots of cash trying very hard to make sure that doesn't happen. >> and your first day on the job, you probably shouldn't say i can't do it. >> is too much of the track already behind him in donald trump hemorrhaging delegates this morning in colorado and north dakota and louisiana. can they do enough, or has too much damage been done? >> i suspect paul has a list of the unpledged delegates of which there are in. in many states you can win a state, and it's the republican version in some cases of what democrats call superdelegates. paul probably knows a lot of these people personally and has a lot of leeway and a lot of things to happen. this is not like a government
situation. you can go and talk about do you want a job? does a friend need a job? can we talk about free tickets to mar-a-lago? i don't know. he has a lot of things to offer. there's going to be a lot of bargaining, and the negotiator, donald trump, says he can make deals. paul is going to be out there making deals from now until the convention. >> mar-a-lago is going to be booked for the next three years with the amount of people going there. andrew, this is a shift here that donald trump is bringing on this political figure to help him with his delegate strategy. there's also a shift when you look at just what's happened in the past couple days. donald trump cancelling his trip to california. they're not sending anybody to colorado this weekend. it's all a focus on new york. >> right. >> right now. >> well, he's positioned far blowout in new york. and he needs it, and it looks like he may get it. right now ted cruz and john kasich are really battling for second place, and they'll both claim a victory if they come in
second, especially kasich, but it's not a victory, it'll be second place, and trump has 10,000 people out cheering for him in long island, and these guys are going through these kind of cliche photo ops. new york is not really like that kind of town anymore. it's not the ethnic tribes aren't really what they used to be. also cruz is romancing funders here. he's behind the scenes of the club in manhattan trying to raise some cash from people. >> from people with new york values? >> right. and he's trashed the city. it's quite a spectacle, and who could do it better than the new york media market which is in a perpetual state of feeding frenzy. >> dana, you had a sit down with ted cruz.
this is the exchange between you and him, you asked him if he should apologize for the new york values comment. let's watch. >> you understand how a sound bite is played and how your opponent is using it against you. any regrets in using that terminology? >> not remotely. everyone in new york and outside of new york knows exactly what i meant by that, and it is the liberal values of democratic politicians who have been hammering the people of new york for decades. >> but it is following him around the city, around the state. isn't it? >> look, you're not being covered by the houston chronical anymore. i mean, to your point, this is the new york media. the cover of the daily news suggesting he take the f-u train. that's the beginning of it. he takes it in stride. he does. he gets the game and what he stepped into by saying what he said about new york. but i was talking to you both --
>> exactly. >> -- from upstate new york yesterday where it's a different world, and voter after voter who came to the ted cruz rally, some of whom weren't sure even after they would vote for him, they didn't find offense in what he said about new york values. they said those are city slickers. somebody actually said that to me. so they understand the difference and the disconnect, but -- >> but when it comes to the disconnect, that's clearly -- cruz is not a dumb guy. he's playing this in a strategy now. >> absolutely. >> he knows this is going to follow him. do you think when you look at new york in total, not just nyc, this is likely to hurt him more or help him more? >> the comment will not help him in any corner of new york. it was a dumb thing to say. >> he wasn't going to get those votes anyway. >> keep in mind, it's not winner take all. it's modified winner take all. if you can win a congressional
district, and some of the districts where he was campaigning in the bronx and some of the democratic districts. in one case there were 13,000 republicans there. if you can win a majority of those and somehow eke that out through personal connections, he's tied in with a lot of ministers, you get as many delegates as if you were in a republican stronghold with a quarter of a million republicans. so cruz is being smart and strategic. he has great analytics. they don't guess about where they're going to go. they try to target. >> one vote ted cruz is not going to get is rudy all-yagiul. he says he's going to vote for donald trump, yet, he's not going to endorse donald trump. what gives? >> he wants to stay relevant, so he's going to try to stay with a front runner. you're talking about a man who endorsed mario cuomo once.
i mean, he's a transactional politician. he's trying to calibrate the thing. one thing i want to say about upstate. there is no love for down state up state, but still, new york is not a ted cruz kind of a place. i mean, the republicans in new york state elect pro choice candidates like rudy giuliani, george pataki. ted cruz can do things in orthodox jewish communities, but there's a reason that john case sick in second place he -- kasich is in second. >> and that is making camp cruz crazy. >> especially after the add that kasich took out that is taking on cruz and not trump. what's behind that? >> they understand that they could potentially beat ted cruz here in this state for the reasons that you were just talking about. and if that happens, which is
likely that he could, that's going to make the whole wait a minute, this should be a whole two man race thing you're hearing from the cruz campaign, and a lot of the never trump forces that were trying to be st strategic, saying it's easier to beat trump with two people in the race. a quick thing about new york being liberal. you're right about the cruz strategy. it's not to written the state. it's to pick off the pockets of the congressional districts where he think he can get them. >> dana, errol, andrew, thank you for being us. coming up next, forget about the republicans. the bernie sanders campaign says the democrats will be looking at an open convention. his campaign manager will join us live next. >> and hear how the president
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belgium. a federal prosecutor saying several arrests have now been made in connection with brussels terrorist attack. let's bring in nick robertson. he's in london. it seems there's a lot of information we don't know quite yet. we don't know the names, at least at this moment unless you have a breaking update on that. we also don't know how many. what is the significance that you're picking up of the several arrests made? >> reporter: this diminishing the threat to european centers and to belgium. by how much we don't know until we know the names and how many people have been picked up. we know that belgian authorities have been on the lookout for anything more than eight or ten, up to 20 or more people. we know that as of last year european intelligence agencies
knew that 60 operatives from isis have been sent to target european cities. anyone taken out of that mix if these men are part of that isis terror threat which is what the belgian authorities are so on the alert more at the moment, is going to help them. it's not going to remove it all together. but i think until we know precisely who has been arrested, it's going to be hard to say. but it is interesting that these arrests, we don't know how many, came the day after belgian authorities decided to put out more information about the man in the hat and the white coat seen with the other two decisui bombers minutes before the blasts. they released videos showing him as he moved away from the airport and toward a nearby town. has this helped them develop more information? who have they captured? how significant in we're waiting to find out.
>> and there's some indication we could get more information, the number of people, some of the names. some of that could be coming. we're watching it closely. we'll bring you updates as we get them. let's go back to politics here in the u.s. the war of words between the democratic candidates reaching somewhat of a cease fire this morning. give us a minute. it could change. after sanders called clinton unqualified, clinton said sanders didn't do his homework. they're both backing away from the attack lines and turning their focus toward the republicans. >> i think it's a silly statement, but he's free to say whatever he chooses. >> is he qualified to be president? >> here's what i believe. i believe voters will be looking at both of us, but i will take bernie sanders over donald trump or ted cruz any time. >> i respect hillary clinton. we were colleagues in the senate. and on her worst day she would be a better president than
either of the president candidates. >> she's qualified? >> of course. >> joining us right now, the campaign manager for bernie sanders, jeff weaver. bernie sanders just said yes, she's qualified. two days ago, he said these are the reasons she's not qualified. >> i think what he was pointing out the other day is on a number of issues, the secretary as the war in iraq that call into s question if she should be the nominee. >> he said she's not qualified to be president because. this morning he said of course she's qualified. >> i think he said these more qualified than any of the republicans. he has pledged to support the democratic nominee. she has as well. >> he said she's qualified. please tell me you're not going to say he misspoke on that. >> no. clearly her resume makes her qualified in that sense. in that narrow sense, yes.
>> she is qualified? >> in the narrow sense of the resume for the job, yes. >> in the narrow sense of yes or no? >> there's more than a resume. there's things like judgment. over the number of years, there's times when she exercised terrible judgment. the war in iraq is one of the issues. supporting doma. she apologizes for half her record, doma, the superpredator comment, the war in iraq. on and on it goes. she repudiates positions she took. >> when people watch this, they say this is part of the silly season no one likes. this is not the question that keeps democratic voters up at night. no kidding. but why then has it become a trip up? why is he -- if this is not something keeping folks up at night, why has this become a
thing of unqualified and not qualified? if she's better than any republican out there, she's qualified. >> well, look, what we have said all along, and this -- there was a debate about who was a progressive a couple months ago. a similar kind of debate. what has been clear throughout the campaign is bernie sanders has set the agenda in terms of the message. the clinton campaign set the tone. we came into new york after wisconsin, we came into new york. there was an attack on the senator's qualifications. jeff zeleny reported about clinton's strategy in new york was going to be disqualify him, defeat him, and then reunify the party later. let me tell you something. bernie sanders is a son of brooklyn. he's going to campaign like a brooklyn person. if they want to bring it on that level, we'll bring it back. >> is it not over? is it still being broughten? >> well. >> what's happening here? >> we'll see. if the clinton people want to
have a debate on the issues, we're happy to do it. >> let's talk about substance. you're talking about clont clinton's decisions on iraq and said she's in part responsible for the rise of isis. and you say that the decisions she made while secretary of state helped create a vacuum in the middle east. >> it's not just me. >> people like mccain have said that repeatedly. are you saying the decisions of the obama administration -- to withdraw the troops created a vacuum? >> it was going into iraq in the first place. it was a mistake. bernie sanders was in the congress at the time talking about exactly what would happen. a vacuum created with at lo of oh instability and. >> a lot of people are using the vacuum comment for the withdrawal of troops from iraq.
which certainly bernie sanders supported. does he think that created a vacuum in. >> the vacuum was created by engaging in an unnecessary war. >> one vacuum but not the other? >> well, should the united states troops have stayed there forever? that's the problem with the wars. we're not going to have u.s. troops occupying countries for years and years. that's why we have to have a different foreign policy. >> you have been floating the possibility, actually, the likelihood of an open convention. do you have a floor operation underway for that? >> we're beginning to work on that. in all likelihood there will be an open convention. >> tridescribe the operation. >> the operation or scenario? >> the operation. we get the scenario. >> we are in constant contact with superdelegates as we go toward the convention to
convince them what is the fact, polls show bernie sanders beats the republicans by better margins. and if donald trump isn't the nominee, the secretary loses to kasich and sometimes to cruz. >> you talk about the idea of an open convention. we're trying to figure out if that's a threat or something you're actively planning for. >> i was just at a meeting about it two days. it is something actively going on in the campaign. we have many people affiliated with the campaign with floor experience in the democratic party. we're looking at our options in terms of rules and delegates and what have you on the floor. >> who is going to run it? >> we'll -- to be revealed. >> do you have one name, though? >> no. i don't think we have one name. we have a tame eam of people. >> thank you so much, jeff weaver. >> great to see you, jeff. >> the clinton campaign will join us to respond and talk
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to the paris attacks and also to the recent attacks in belgium. the question now is the identities of who has been arrested. of course, the focus on this search has been the man in the hat. we talked a lot about that yesterday as belgian police released that surveillance video showing the man seen with two of the suicide bombers inside the airport. he left the airport. you're seeing pictures of those on your screen. they followed him for two hours before they lost his trail. his identity unknown. we don't know if the arrests are connected to that man. another question mark, mohamed abrini. he's been wanted since the paris attacks. he drove salah abdeslam, to paris and then left paris with him after those attacks spotted on surveillance video. he has been very much at the top of the list for searches for belgian and french authorities. the belgian state broadcaster giving more details as they
come. we're told by our own sources that it's premature to say who the identities are of the latest arrests. we'll be following the story throughout the day. the key question is mohamed abrini among those taken in by belgian authorities today. that's the question we're seeking clarity on today. >> we've seen him in pictures with so many so many before the attacks. is he believes to be a planner or operator for isis in europe? >> that's the question. how much of a planner. he's connected to more than salah abdeslam. he was known to have driven him to paris before the attacks and seen after the attacks as well. he also had a connection to the apartment where two of the suicide attackers from the paris attacks stayed, a safe house, before they carried out the attacks. he has multiple ties to the paris attackers. of course the fact that he was
arrested in belgium raises the question does he have ties to the brussels attackers as well, because not to get confusing here for the viewers, but the paris attackers came many of them came from belgium, and the question has been what is the connection between the paris attacks in november and this attack in brussels. is abrini someone who connects those two? this is a key question for investigators right now in these arrests. very important to that investigation. >> the web of these attackers, the web of these people involved, it's complex, but it continues to get more and more arrests and more and more details coming out. we're waiting for more information. we'll stay close to it. jim, thank you so much. >> reporter: thank you. >> back to our conversation. just moments ago we spoke with bernie sanders campaign manager and he told us clinton clinton is qualified to be president but in a narrow sense of a resume, and that the sanders campaign is
actively preparing for a contested convention. >> the senior spokesperson for the hillary clinton campaign is here. karen, you were laughing at what jeff said, that narrowly defined hillary clinton is qualified to be president. >> he parsed that. you asked him several ways and he kept parsing it. this started with reports that the sanders campaign was testing attack lines against hillary clinton. that he talked about the jeff zeleny report. hillary never said that. no one in our campaign said that. she never said he was unqualified. i find the parsing of words, i feel like they saw that it wasn't working and now they're working their way back. i mean, you can say a lot of things about hillary clinton but unqualified seems like a stretch. i guess they're trying to walk it back. >> hillary clinton never said he was unqualified, but she also has not said he is qualified. i mean, so why is she dancing
around this question? same thing that we asked jeff weaver. bernie sanders this morning said she's qualified. then jeff weaver wanted to give caveats. why is hillary clinton dancing around this? >> i think we think it's ridiculous that this is the conversation we're having. >> only because you guys are dancing around it. >> it's not. the way this started -- >> hang on. it's at this point right now, and this morning clinton still wouldn't say yes, bernie sanders is qualified to be president. it's a simple yes, no question. does she think he's qualified to be president, yes or no? >> you asked me a question. let me answer. here's the thing. she believes that -- as she said, it's for the voters to decide. it's like the conversation jeff brought in about who is a progressive. who is bernie sanders to define who is a progressive? particularly when hillary clinton was fighting for equal
women's pay in the 90s when it was seen as a side issue. why does he get to decide who is or is? to the point of the substance of it, the question that he was asked in the daily news editorial board specifically, for example, on breaking up the banks. this has been his single issue for years. and when he was asked how would you do it, he kind of said i hadn't really thought about it. then the day he was asked how do you break up the big banks? those people go and get other jobs. i think to say that doesn't sound like a well thought out answer, that's a different issue than who decides who is qualified. >> this is parsing. you gave us a minute explanation about why you're not giving us a yes no. >> voters get to decide who is qualified. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are both in agreement that we need to be focussed on trump and cruz. i mean, that is where i think the real risk is in terms of where we go in this country.
but, look, if they want to attack, that's fine. hillary is going to be in upstate new york today talking about jobs. that's what people care about. >> it is impressive how you guys are all saying exactly the same thing and just changing the subject, changing the target of the conversation. hillary clinton called it a silly statement. we can agree it's silly season, and the candidates could put it to rest in a minute. let's talk about substance. this is going to continue to be a question until you put it to rest. black lives matter protests before bill clinton was holding a rally, and he took them on very emotionally. listen to this. >> i don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them into the street to murder other african american children, maybe you thought they were good citizens. she didn't.
she didn't. you are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. >> this clearly got under his skin. i mean, it's clearly -- you saw he was emotional about it. does secretary clinton agree with what bill clinton said? previously she's apologized for her wording back then. >> i think where he was trying to go was reiterating what she said. she has said she shouldn't have used the word superpredator. she wouldn't again, but at the time she was talking about drug cartels and violent crime. i think that's what -- using different language, i think that's where he was trying to go, talking about what's happening in the 90s in that context. he just did an event in upstate new york and expressed regret about how that actually went down, and i think what's important is -- >> at this event. >> president clinton has said time and again he understands that the crime bill went too far. he understands -- >> he has. >> he understands there were
unintended consequences that we have to deal with now. we can keep relitigating that 90s, but i think what happens is i want to know what's going to happen now. i want a president with a plan like hillary clinton that says let's deal with ending the era of mass incarceration and how we change the dynamic between the police and the communities they serve. she's the only person in this campaign who has not only put forward a comprehensive plan, but also how to invest in the african american community, and he's been out talking about systemic racism, white privilege and other issues we're still grappling with as a community. i think bill clinton said what he said. again, he has tried to make clear what he meant by that, but i think this is -- this should be a race about the people who are running for president now. and what i thought was convenient, jeff weaver in reattacking hillary on that
issue always likes to neglect that bernie sanders voted for the crime bill. he likes to say there was assault weapons ban in there and that's part of what president clinton said too. if we're going to talk about what happened in the era of mass incarcerati incarceration, there's more to talk about. i say, bill clinton has tried to make sure that he recognizes the damage that was done, and i think even more importantly, when she got to the senate, when she had a vote because she couldn't vote when the crime bill was first passed, she got to work on things like ending racial profiling and changing sentencing disparities. i don't know what senator sanders was doing while she was working on that. they talk about how he was arrested in the 60s, but that matters too. >> thank you for coming. i expect we'll see you again up until april 19th when the voting happens. >> thank you so much. hillary clinton and bernie
sanders, they will face off in a democratic presidential debate live from brooklyn. that is next thursday, april 14th. it's right here on cnn. breaking news right now. belgian television now reporting one of the suspects arrested today -- no -- one of the suspects arrested today may be connected to the attacks in paris. sources are telling us something different about that. we'll get it clear and come back. americans. we're living longer than ever.
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this is all kind of unfolding as we speak. these arrests being made. we don't know the number. some question about, of course, who the people are who have been arrested. what are you picking up? >> i just spoke to a senior belgium counterterrorism official. they say they are hopeful that one of the people that was arrested earlier today is hum mohamed abrini, one of the paris attackers or part of that conspiracy, because he is believed to have driven the paris attackers from belgium to paris in the 48 hours after the attack. they're hopeful they have him in custody, but they don't have certainty that he's in custody. when you take someone like that, a terrorist suspect into custody, they don't have their name written across their face. they have to verify this through fingerprint analysis and dna, through other methods. they need to be absolutely sure they have the right guy.
with this terror cell, we've seen people using disguises, fake identities. they want to be absolutely sure they've got him before making a public announce want, but they are certainly hopeful at this point that they do, indeed, have him in custody. he was one of the two most wanted men in europe because of his links to this brussels/paris attack style links he had inside europe. >> just to be crystal clear. we said arrests made in connection with brussels terrorist attacks, but mohamed abrini known to be around paris before the attacks in paris. two days in a car that was believed to be used in attacks in. is he connected to one or both? >> it's the same cell that carried out both attacks. this is the same group of men who were all working together, all based in and around brussels in the weeks before the paris attacks.
the remaining part of the cell a few months later then carried out the brussels attacks. and that, remember, was just a few days after salah abdeslam and another co-conspirator were brought into custody. there's optimism because they have more dangerous men in custody, they think. but also concern because there may be other people at large who fear the dragnet is coming closer to them. we saw what happened when salah abdeslam was arrested. that's a concern of authorities. >> let's add to the conversation. let's add jim sciutto. what are you picking up from your sources? what are you hearing from the u.s., the significance? this seems very significant. something belgium as wanted and needed was to pick up more of the suspects. there are a lot of people out there they're looking for. >> reporter: the significance is tieing the attacks together.
now, they're tied to some degree because we know that brussels, and belgium has been a hot bed of jihadiism. that's where many of them traveled into paris. you have that potential connection. one question that is being raised now as they look for certainty that this is is in the man in the hat the man that walked away from the brussels airport after the suicide attacks there we already ino, the belgian state broadcaster says one of those arrested today was seen with the brussels subway attacker. so had a connection there. the question is do you then connect these two severe, some of the worse attacks in europe in years, paris and brussels with these arrests today? that would be significant. >> have there been talks that mohamed abrini was the guy at the airport or subway?
>> if they knew that they wouldn't have had to put that out to identify him. they did not know that a few days ago that the belgian prosecutor was on record saying we don't know who this guy is. so obviously mohamed abrini is a potential suspect who may have been that but they have no concrete information as of a few days ago that was the case. another person at large still connected to this brussels paris style, an individual named mohammad who came through greek islands, many of the other attackers and was picked up by salah abdeslam from a refugee center in germany and brought in to the belgium. he is believed to be operationally involved in the brussels attacks themselves. not clear if he might have been one of the people who was
arrested today. mohammad was considered to be a fake. we will try to find out more in the minutes ahead. >> stick around. when these arrests happen, there is an experience, these tend to be big events and we learn more quickly. let us know the minute you hear more. paul cruickshank. thank you very much. breaking news out of texas as well. we are told by pentagon officials that the shooter at lackland air force base was an airman who i believe shot his squadron commander. what we know is two people are dead. we will get more information. back in a moment. some cash back cards are, shall we say, unnecessarily complex. limiting where you can earn bonus cash back... then those places change every few months... please. it's time you got the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere.
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on politics right now. let's bring in our panel, former campaign adviser to mitt romney stuart stevens and former communications director for the rnc. hi. great to see you. our show has been busy with a lot. so let's get back where we began the show, talking about the new hire that donald trump made, paul maniford. he said he answers to trump and trump alone. from your perspective of being involved in campaigns, if he answers to trump and trump alone what does that mean for the relationship with the other guy who is supposed to answer to trump and trump alone, his campaign manager corey lewandowski. for those who have been on the inside, what's it mean? >> he is way over his head.
never been involved in a serious campaign and this is a big-time presidential campaign. it is disgusting what trump did. i think he will help donald trump. he is a smart guy. this is make or break for donald trump. he has to get to 1237. if he doesn't go in to cleveland with 1237 it is do youful he will come out as the nominee for the party. and he is a good tuperson to tu to. >> is this spell more chaos for trump? >> to stuart's point, if he doesn't get the delegates and the rnc members and the challenge the trump campaign faces is ted cruz has spent two
years working every one of those members, every state party chair. trump campaign is just getting to know those people and that puts you at a disadvantage. >> i want you to weigh in on this. to doug's point, speaking to cnn he did concede if they get to the convention and they get to a second or third ballot, he says cruz is playing a clever game and seems like he was conceding cruz's ground game is working. that's what they have to fight against. >> i think senator cruz's ground game is working. however, if we get a second or third ballot, it is trouble for the cruz campaign as much as the trump campaign can. you cannot ignore the fact that you are seeing a lot of happiness from the establishment at the idea of the brokered convention. they are excited at the thought of a brokered convention. that's why you see more delegates starting to talk saying if we go to a brokered
convention there's a good chance nooet of us may have the nomination coming out. >> i was at the republican national convention this week, no one is happy going in to a brokered convention. there are no smoke-filled rooms. it would be an open convention but no one is happy with that scenario. >> you think it is a four-lettered word but if it is contested there will be a number of people brokering. 45 seconds left. now know you don't think bernie sanders or hillary clinton are qualified, what do you make of the debate they are having that they are. is this good when they go after each other like this. >> i think they are both qualified to be president of the united states. i think the debate should be about who should be president of the united states. what's remarkable here, if you look at the hot messes of the last 24 hours of the democratic party, we have a socialist challenging the leading power structure of the democratic party. that's not the leading story.
donald trump has 70% unfavorables. you have both parties who would elect, possibly nominate the most unpopular candidate that's running in their primary. absolutely bizarre. >> thank you so much for being with us. a appreciate it. >> thank you for joining us on this busy friday. >> "legal view" starts now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. welcome to "legal view." we will begin with the breaking news of a new arrest in belgium in connection with the brussels attack. the information coming from the belgian prosecutor's office. belgian media have further reporting. they are saying this man, paris attack suspect, mohamed abrini is one of the men arrested in belgium today.