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welcome back. this breaking news. talking about out of belgium, belgian federal prosecutors say mohamed abrini has admitted to being the man in the hat seen in the brussels airport with the two bombers just before the explosions and then you see in the surveillance video images of him walking away. police say abrini confessed after being confronted with facial recognition evidence by the belgian authorities. abrini was arrested yesterday along with five others in raids carried out in the etterbeek neighborhood of brussels. we have team obsercoverage.
so, the circumstances that led to this admission, any more details? >> interesting, because we were on the phone way federal prosecutor literally a couple minutes before this information was actually officially put out by them, and it was very important for them, they said, to point out that it was not only the fact that they had this facial recognition of him, but the fact that he also confessed to this as well. something they were very keen to point out to us. they say that most of the tools they used to identify him were indeed facial recognition software, but only after confronted with that he then said, yes, the person on that picture from the airport is, indeed, me. he then also apparently told more details about what he did after going to the airport right before those terror attacks happened there. he said that afterwards he left
the airport. that he then went on his way back to central brussels and at some point dumped his coat. he had a hat on to conceal his face somewhat, said he sold that hat, strank strangely enough an went on his way. interesting. in the past authorities put out photos and videos to retrace all of his steps and everything he's saying appears to be in line with that. authorities saying this is a very, very big information for them, but, of course, this investigation is still very much ongoing. there's a lot more that want to find out from this man, fredricka. >> bob is it your opinion it is big he admitted to being the man in the hat, to comfort people, to give more believability to the claim he is indeed the man in the hat? >> i think it's the comfort. i mean, the -- belgian police have to show they're on top of this. so far they haven't been. since the november attacks,
november 13th in paris, they've been you know, behind the eight ball on this. so the fact they're moving and making arrests quickly, that they're getting the forensic evidence from the explosion at the airport, and at the metro, and all the rest of it and actually have suspects and identified that bomber makes belgians feel much, much safer at this point. >> and then, kim, you know, the message being sent, not just to those in brussels but beyond, perhaps even to other networks who have plans, you know, in the pipeline. do you think that revealing that the man in the hat has been captured, that he admitted to it, that authorities are quick to convey this, less than 24 hours after being arrested, is there something else to this strategy? the message being sent to other potential networks or other potential, you know, terrorists with this arrest? >> well, the message is twofold. it's to the belgian public,
wider european public, yes, we're getting on top of these networks. we are not inefficient or incompetent as accused. we're catching those involved, but they also want to possibly flush those out from the neighborhoods saying we're closing in on you. to make them possibly make a mistake that would expose them to authorities. they've already learned that the modus ap raund dye with these dies, stay in place and hope they're just not spotted by melting into the background of the belgian or wider european community. places they group up, places that they've already been careful not to expose themselves, to show themselves, as being militant leaning. so, yes. the authorities want everyone to know that they've rolled up all of these different suspects so that the people hiding might run for cover. >> huh. interesting. so, fred, perhaps you can tell
us more about the strategy of police? because when they made this arrest, the public knowledge is it wasn't that he was, you know, out and about, kind of, you know, doing his own thing, going to the store, running errands. instead, raids taking place in those safe places, perhaps, that these suspects thought they were in? you know, in their homes. as they've -- in the words of kim, melted in to their communities? >> yeah, and melted into their communities and apparently also did have help from at least some people in those communities to try and hide for such a long period of time. look as, for instance, saleh abdeslam on the run a period of time when captured, was inside a private apartment with several other people. look at the case of mohamed abrini, when taken in by the police yesterday, he was also with two other people that were subsequently let go. so all of them in some way, shape or form had help from people inside the community, and
in many cases from childhood friends that helped them to stay and to lay low, as kim said, for such an extended period of time, but i think for the belgian police, there are other things also very important as well. it does really mesh with what kim is saying what bob is saying as well. look, as far as the man in the hat was concerned, there was so much speculation as to who that person might be. remember, another person who turned out to be one of the suicide bombers, and he was at one point thought to be the man in the hat. police now want to make absolutely clear they are 100% sure that this is actually the guy. and then on the other hand, they also don't want to make the same, i wouldn't say mistake, but don't want to have the same thing happen that happens after saleh abdeslam was arrested. two days later, the brussels attacks happened. what they're doing right now, after the high-profile rests, abri abrini, abdeslam as well,
conducting various raids here in the city, and you can see how they're stepping up the tempo of their operations to make sure they don't miss anything in the wake of these big arrests. >> all right. fred, bob, kim, thank you so much. stick around. we'll talk more about that. if you're just joining us, we've learned a terror suspect arrested just 24 hours ago has admitted to being the man in the hat. that one right there, circled in that image, during that brussels airport suicide attack there leading to the deaths of so many. we will be right back. pe to. whoa, whoa, i got this. just gotta get the check. almost there. i can't reach it. if you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. what? it's what you do. i got this. thanks, dennis! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. growwwlph. it's what you do. oh that is good crispy duck.
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back to our breaking news. belgian authorities say mohamed abrini admitted to being the man in the hat seen in that brussels airport with the two suicide bombers, and then again after the explosion, walking through the streets there casually. authorities say he confessed after being confronted with facial recognition evidence by the belgian authorities. abrini was picked up in raids carried out in the etterbeek neighborhood of brussels. let's bring back our experts and reporters kim dozier, bob baer and fred pleitgen. so, fred to you there in brussels. does this arrest in any way further strengthen the case that authorities have on the other suspects arrested? >> well, it potentially could. one of the big questions will be what exactly are they going to find out from mohamed abrini. seems they are obviously keen to find out what more information
he might still have available, or might be willing to share with them. one of the things that was important for them was for them to point out that it was he himself who made this admission that, yes, indeed, he was the man with the hat. that seems to indicate in some way, shape or form he at least seems to be telling the authorities things. at least seems to be giving them some sort of information. maybe for them could indicate he might be willing to share more with them. it's very important for them to have captured this man alive and try and squeeze information out of him, not just about all the things that's happened in the past. not just the logistical web between the paris and brussels attacks between all of the cells that appear to be involved in all of this. how closely tied were they? any childhood friends inmpl vod with each other? what friendships were there, but also what sort of things might have been planned in the future. having some are important not just to belgium but europe as a whole. two things essentially
facilitated the work of these people perpetrating the attacks. one hand, open borders ear in euro here in europe and failure of authorities to share information. >> bob, at first it would seem like why would think suspect want to admit to being the man in the hat? and then the other thinking is, would he want to make that admission so as to send a senate to, say, you know, his bosses? you know, that he has been apprehended? this is where we are in the investigation? this is how willing i am to cooperatewhat cooperate? what's the logic behind this kind of admission? >> let's not forget abrini was involved in the paris attacks, involved in a murder, already will spend the rest of his life in jail. admitting he was at the airport, we have to consider the possibility, until we see forensics, that he's giving disinformation. what these people tend to do, like about selling his hat. werther he was really going to be a suicide bomber, where's the
vest? why did he get rid of his coat? >> given that, what's the reason to believe he would be the one in the hat? >> i don't believe any of it until he actually gives truly damaging information about this cell, and it leads to other arrests. actionable intelligence that it's a always my standard for questioning somebody. whether they do real damage to their side, and let's see whether he does that. it's still too early. >> so, kim, you know, speaking to what bob is saying here, i mean, terrorism, it's all about mind games, and the arrest. what information is or isn't given. this is all part of terrorism. the mind games, the playing tricks on people. so, kim, what do you see, you know, in the furtherance of this investigation? the kind of information that may or may not be extracted from whether it be mohamed abrini or the other suspects? what's to be believed here? >> well, look, from his perspective, by admitting that he was the man in the hat, he is one of the survivors of one of
the most notorious isis terrorist attacks inside europe and now is able to embrace that notoriety, possibly inspire others. so even as we are reporting on the success of the belgian police in tracking this now down, it also helps propagate that message that isis has people who are right next door who may be plotting future violence. so unfortunately for them, this is only one. >> thanks to all of you. we'll be right back. a real thing? it's a great school, but is it the right one for her? is this really any better than the one you got last year? if we consolidate suppliers, what's the savings there? so should we go with the 467 horsepower? ...or is a 423 enough? good question. you ask a lot of good questions... i think we should move you into our new fund. sure... ok. but are you asking enough about how your wealth is managed?
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so let's get right to cnn's ana cabrera there in colorado springs. cruz grabbed 22 delegates so far. the remaining 13, how would they be awarded? >> reporter: a very different process in colorado than you've seen in other states leading up to this point. right now the wrangling for those 13 remaining delegates is happening on the floor of colorado's gop state convention, where the different campaigns set their proxies to try to get that last-minute push of support to win over the remaining delegates elected at the end of today. there are hundreds of delegates here running to be elected on to the rnc. now, again, the process here is different. there's no a generic primary. there's no national caucus. all of colorado's delegates are selected by state party insiders at the state convention as well as the district convention. so really it's a multistep process to get to those
conventions for these delegates, and so that's rye it's important for campaigns strategically to really be working on the ground here over the past few weeks, and months. that's exactly what cruz' campaign has been doing. that gives them advantage going into today. by the way, cruz expected to speak here to this crowd of some 6,000 people within the next hour, fred. we expect him to really fire up these people. trump had an event planned here earlier in the week, which he canceled. his campaign adviser isn't expecting any delegates for trump today. thrown in the towel on colorado hoping to maybe pick up a few. they're looking down the road to the gop national convention where they hope to pull some of cruz' supporters here, delegates elected, maybe able to win them over and get a kasich vote in the second ballot. back to you. >> ted cruz not there yet. not onstage, maybe in the vicinity. somewhere within the hour he'll
be taking to the stage there, and clearly being met with a whole lot of support since so far he has garnered the majority of the delegates. so now to the democrats. cnn paul vercammen at a caucus location in cyan, woe yoming, ad people seemed excited earlier. seems quiet now. what going on? >> reporter: unbelievably were efficient, fredricka. got everybody in here, almost 1,500 people into this gymnasium pap decided tilt towards bernie sanders. walked in, placed their votes in ballot boxes. at least a 65-35 sanders split, from what i could see. hear why they are were so enthusiastic here in win wyominr their democratic experience? >> she has experience, pragmatism. she's been kicked around quite a bit. and she's still come out, you
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welcome back now to the latest on the breaking news we're following this hour. belgian federal prosecutors say mohamed abrini has admitted to being the man in the hat seen at the brussels airport with the two bombers just before the explosions and then you see images of the man in the hat wearing that trench coat walking casually, running at some times casually through the streets of belgium. now officials say that he confessed after being confronted with facial recognition evidence by the belgian authorities. arrested within the past 24 hours, along with others, during raids in a neighborhood there. five others were arrested in all in the etterbeek neighborhood of brussels and now mohamed abrini, now confessing that he was the one in the hat, that third suspect now at the brussels airport bombing, that led to the deaths of 17 people, along with at a nearby subway, 15 others also killed. this man abrini has been charged
with participating in the activities of a terrorist group. unclear whether other charges are soon to follow. we'll, of course, have more on this at the top of the hour at 3:00 eastern time. i'm fredricka whitfield. thanks so much for being with me today in the "newsroom." right now, time for "vital signs with dr. sanjay gupta." ♪ -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com obsessive cravings and total loss of control. whether it's from a substance or a behavior, addiction is a
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