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you're in the ""cnn newsroom." i'm pamela brown in for poppy harlow. for the past few days, donald trump has been unusually quiet. from silence it ended today with a big rally in his home state. he hold as commanding lead but wants more. he traveled to upstate new york to plead for voters to turn out in huge numbers. >> we need a great show of strength in new york state. it's so important.
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we need a great show of strength. you've got to go not this tuesday but the next tuesday. nine days. nine days. you've got to go out and you've got to vote and bring your friends and tell them about it. you're going to say, this is one of the great days of your lives. when you cast that vote in nine days on tuesday, you're going to say it was the greatest single vote you've ever cast. >> it's quite a prediction. and on the democrats side, they crisscross new york ahead of the april 19th primary there. bill and hillary clinton stopped by several new york churches looking to shore up support among african-americans. clinton is looking to end sanders' momentum fast. meanwhile, sanders rallied supporters on a coney island boardwalk and touted his victory in wyoming last night. they are just four days away now
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from a showdown in brooklyn where cnn will host thursday's event. in nine days when voters head to the polls, who is going to win more votes? >> that is why i need your help on april 26th, here in baltimore and across maryland. >> i hope very much that here in new york state you're going to help lead this country towards the political revolution. >> sanders and clinton still have one big opportunity to sway them. cnn is hosting a democratic debate in brooklyn this thursday. and one of the people tasked with asking them the tough questions joins me now. he is errol lewis, political anchor at new york one news. thanks for coming back on. obviously you had a big day on thursday.
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you're going to be sharing that day with bill clinthillary clin bernie sanders. >> like any journalist, i hope that we're going to be able to advance the conversation. all of the back and forth, there's been a fair amount of silliness about who knows how to get through the higher levels about who is qualified to be president and so forth. we've really got to ask some questions that haven't gotten a whole lot of attention and what i would call urban america questions, what are their plans on updating some issues on which they have some background on policing and law enforcement and so forth. but what are they planning to do after the future? that's most of what i'm hearing from our viewers and readers. this is what people want to know. >> the polls as of now, errol, say that hillary clinton is the
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front-runner in new york. so what does bernie sanders need to show voters to win them over? >> well, he's got to make a convincing case that it's not so much about hillary clinton but the democratic party establishment as currently constituted. he keeps calling for a political revolution and that's rhetoric but in a very practical sense what he's saying is there are different ways to be a democratic and he's trying to rally the progressive democrats of which new york has no shortage and say that this is how we should be doing things, that we should be raising money only in small amounts and we should be rejecting the kinds of alliances that he claims hillary clinton has with large corporations and with the banking industry and with the political establishment. he's really trying to shake things up and he's going to try and make sure that this -- frankly, this existing wing, progressive wing of the
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democratic party comes out and really battles on his behalf. he's trying to fuel an existing rivalry that's been going on in new york for a long, long time and see if he can sort of make something of it and come out on top in the process. >> so i just have to ask you, when you look at the new york primaries in past presidential elections, they haven't really garnered this much attention as it is this time around. why is it so much significant now, in your view, than in the past? >> because new york is back in the process. and the season gets to us. now on the democratic side and the republican side, because they have a fight that looks like it could go close to the end of the season and the convention, every delegate counts and we've got a bunch of
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delegates here and you have to go back to 1988 or 1976 when jimmy carter, by the way, came in third in the new york primary and went on to win the presidency but it was a hard-fought battle then and now. >> i know sanders called clinton unqualified to be president and that it was sexist. do you think sanders is going to have to watch how he acts on the stage? >> i think any candidate who runs against the woman at that level, in particular, against hillary clinton, has to be mindful. it's an important piece of local lord here in new york. the congressman running against hillary clinton at the time did a little bit of a split and it looked just awful, like he was bullying her and harassing her
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and the congressman went on to get trounced by hillary clinton and that was just sort of an overreach and not the right way to deal with a woman candidate. we've never had so many operate at this level the way hillary clinton has. >> very quickly, sanders has consistently pounded hillary clinton on her ties to wall street. you're a new york journalist. how have voters responded to that in new york? >>. >> progressive wing says yes, yes, yes, bernie is right. but what also happens, this is our home industry. so there are a lot of clerks and bankers, assistant bankers, vice president, people who want to move to new york to get into the industry and recognize that it is the backbone of a local
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economy and that extends to restaurants and car dealerships and so forth. when you say wall street is the bad guys, maybe not so much in a lot of people's opinion because their livelihood depends on that. >> it will be interesting to see on thursday how he uses that at the debate where you will be on stage. thanks for coming on. we appreciate it. the next debate in brooklyn is coming up this thursday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. see hillary clinton and bernie sanders face off just five days before the new york primary right here on cnn. well, donald trump wants to win new york in a big way and today marked the first time since trump didn't hit the tv morning circuit. instead, he held a huge rally in
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rochester, new york, and he pleaded with upstate voters to turn out in big numbers for the new york primary on april 19th. let's go straight to cnn correspondent chris frates right outside that trump rally. chris, tell us more about his pitch to voters there. >> good evening. this was the first time in three days we've seen donald trump on the campaign trail and he was back today in full donald trump form. this is a huge, hugely important day for donald trump, 90 delegates at play. donald trump could sweep all of them. that's going to be important. ted cruz has been on a bit of a hot streak lately playing the delegate game very, very well and he thinks his delegate game is rigged. >> we've got a corrupt system. it's not right. we're supposed to be a democracy. we're supposed to be -- we're supposed to be, you vote and the vote means something.
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>> and i want to tell you, it's a corrupt deal going on in this country and it's not good. it's not good. and it's not fair to you people. they are taking your vote away. they are disenfranchising people that want to see america be great again and politicians will never do it. they don't want to do it. they can't do it because they are lobbyists and special interests saying, we're not going to let you do it. it's no good and we've got to change the system and it's got to change fast. >> now, donald trump saying all of that as ted cruz plays a very savvy delegate, big wins in wisconsin and big win yesterday in colorado taking all 34 of those delegates and that's hit the campaign very hard saying that he's using gestapo tactics. the cruz people say that's ridiculous and another donald trump temper tantrum and it's sour grapes but you are seeing
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the trump people start to adjust a little bit here, pam. they are bringing on delegate experts, someone who has worked for a lot of gop to win this inside game. the polls all have donald trump ahead. in a new fox poll out today, it shows him with 54% and cruz lagging even john kasich in this state and that's important he could win all 95 of those delegates and get closer to the magic number. he's 500 short of it now. ted cruz working hard to make sure he doesn't get those delegates but donald trump back on the stump today, pam, and making the case very, very trump style here in an airplane hangar in rochester, new york. >> chris frates, thank you. by the way, don't forget starting tomorrow, cnn's anderson cooper will host a town
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hall over the next three days. tomorrow it's john kasich and his family, tuesday night, donald trump, his wife melania and daughters ivanka and sons will be there and on wednesday, texas senator ted cruz and his wife heidi. that's at 9:00 p.m. only on cnn. just ahead, it's the candidates versus the new york media and the lead-up to the primary. you better believe that "saturday night live" had a little fun with it. bernie sanders is set to visit the vatican. what it could mean for the presidential race. stunning revelations out of brussels. the terror cell that carried out the brussels attack was planning another attack in paris, france. you're live. stay can us.
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well, new developments on the brussels terror attack. the isis cell responsible for the carnage of the brussels airport and at a metro station was originally planning another attack in france. cnn french affiliate bfm reports that the targets were go to be high-profile in paris. but they turned their sights on brussels instead. this comes as belgian authorities captured mohammad abrini. kellie morgan is live in brussels. what have we learned about this plan that they abandoned? >> reporter: well, according to bfm, this information is detailed about this french plot was obtained from the computer
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scattered outside of the schaerbeek apartment by the brothers and the business district as the catholic association in the city there are also notes to the effect that these men were in a hurry, one of them reading we need to protect ourselves from the police. so, yes, it was fast forward. rather than attacking paris, they attacked in brussels. the carnage here instead. this will be difficult for the par parisians to hear that they were going to be yet another target of an attack. police announced that they had thwarted a plot in the advantage stages in france. >> do we know how many other people authorities believe are connected to this network that are still on the loose in europe
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plotting attacks? >> reporter: well, that is the question, isn't it? how many more are there. the fear is that, yes, there are a lot more out there. we know that some of the french attackers boasted about 90 isis fighters coming in through that migrant -- the root that the migrants are being taken throughout these crisis that we've been seeing unfold since september last year. so that's a lot of people that are still potentially out there planning terror on european soil, pamela. >> i imagine a lot of that you see a lot of security around you, kellie? >> reporter: there is a lot of security and not just here in belgium. it's across europe. there is heightened security in london where i'm normally based. there's heightened security everywhere around europe in the wake of the paris attacks last year there's been heightened security and alert. all major transport hubs.
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a lot of the security is not necessarily in plain sight. a lot of that is undercover covert activity is being done and we're beginning to see organizations work closer together to try and unravel this terror that, as you say, has ten knack kells reaches across europe. the media has more freedom in how they cover presidential candidates. they use humor as a way to criticize. a new york comedian up next to explain how it all works. we'll be back. then one day, hr schedules a meeting with you out of the blue. and it's the worst 19 minutes of your career. but you don't sweat it because you and your advisor have prepared for this. and when the best offer means you're moving to the middle of nowhere, the boys say they hate the idea. but you pretend it's not so bad. and years later at thanksgiving, when one of them says what he's thankful for most, is this house, you realize you didn't plan for any of this you wouldn't have done it any other way.
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well, new york media outlets are shining a harsh light on presidential candidates trying to prove their big apple credentials. candidates on both sides have been targets of scrutiny. ohio governor john kasich caught flack for eating pizza with a fork. remember that? and then there was hillary clinton who became an easy target for "snl." take a look. >> you know what my favorite part about new york is the subway. i'm comfortable using it and riding it. >> the new york city subway is the best way to get around. >> it's been a while.
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i'll just go in the old-fashion -- [ laughter ] i'll take a cab. a cab is the best way to get around. >> a "daily beast" contributor is joining me. dean, you're a comedian who has written for "snl." what do you make of the treatment of these candidates? it certainly seems different in these other states where they have been campaigning? >> the reality is that they are the most vicious lethal writers out there. they make "game of thrones" look like a romantic comedy. the mistake with hillary clinton couldn't use a turn style, it's funny to parody.
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everyone laughs at it. the stakes are high in new york because it actually matters this time. so from now until next tuesday, expect even more humor in the tabloids. cover after covering making fun of these guys and women. if they make one mistake, they are going to hear it. >> some would say, oh, i personally have had trouble getting through the turn style but if a presidential candidate does it, it's made into an "snl" skit. let's take a look at this photo-op. >> it was very good. >> a little mustard. >> ketchup and onions. >> you had bernie sanders there in coney island and hillary clinton there yesterday eating
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cheesecake. does this come off as sincere to voters in new york? >> in new york, we are so jaded, nothing seems sincere or organic. that's old school. go to what people are doing now, two blocks from here, a huge line across the whole block and you've got to put the white sauce on. if you don't, you're not a new yorker. yell at tourists for walking slowly on the sidewalk. that will make new yorkers say, that person knows what i'm about. eating cheesecake and hot dogs and pizza, it's so old school, it's not impressive to us. >> so, you know, this isn't hillary clinton's first rodeo with dealing with new york media as well as donald trump. but what advice would you give to these presidential candidates to be able to survive the media scrutiny that they are under right now in new york? >> i think if you have like a suit of armor, put that on.
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if you have alligator skin, wear that. don't read the headlines if you're donald trump or if you're a democratic, the new york post headlines. it's going to be vicious. it's something that they've never seen before. look at ted cruz. they said take the f-u train to him. i'm surprised they didn't right the words out at this point. have a thick skin, be honest and authentic with who you are and just let the cards fall where they may. >> as you point out with this headline right there, take the f-u train, some in the new york media have not been kind to ted cruz because he made that comment about new york values that he's catching flack for. why is that? what exactly are new york values, dean? >> i think it's some of the best in the country. you know, we were a melting spot still. we're accepting and embracing of
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other cultures and background and religions. ted cruz's campaign doesn't match up with that. yeah, he doesn't share our new york values because he doesn't have the same tolerance that we do. that's why he got yelled at in the south bronx. ted cruz expected more of that. yesterday donald trump with the 9/11 museum, people were ta we tweeting him and mocking him. if it doesn't seem truthful, we're going to attack you. and if you're going to attack us in our city, you're lucky i don't have a baseball bat. it's a rough city. >> all right. dean, i think you made your point loud and clear. thank you very much for that. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, the pope's new message about the catholic's church and its relationship to gays, lesbians and divorced catholics. ♪
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well, pope francis urges more acceptance for catholic who
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is are gay, lesbian, divorced or living together outside of marriage in a highly anticipated paper. he writes, "it can no longer be said that all of those living in any irregular situation are living in a state of mortal sin." the pope is not changing the doctrine on abortion or gay marriage. let's talk with this with brent strong. i'm curious to hear your thoughts on what the reaction has been so far from these individual catholic parishes to what the pope had to say. >> well, the document is not going to fully satisfy those on the far right or the far left. the pope doesn't come across as a hard liner, particularly on things like divorce and, of course, he doesn't go nearly far enough for many in our country, particularly on the issue of same-sex marriage. what's interesting is how he puts this decision, the integration of catholic who is are in, as you say, irregular
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situations, he puts that really squarely as a responsibility of the local pastor in the local church. >> so there's a lot of focus on that on same-sex couples, divorced catholics. some critics have said it didn't go far enough when it came to women. there was an article in "the daily beast" that francis continues with the ignoring blind spot when it comes to women. what's your reaction to that? >> this plays into the fact that the pope is quietly revolutionary. he's traditional. he doesn't overturn any major points of doctrine. in fact, they don't do that kind of work. but at the same time, the kind of moves he makes, particularly emphasizing concern, compassion, care and the concrete situation, the importance of the concrete situation, that it trumps the general law in many ways. that is really a stunning thing,
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especially played out in many other corners of the world. the pope oversees 1.2 billion catholics. so what he says here may sound more conservative than elsewhere in the world. >> well, the same day this paper was released, as you know, the vatican announced it has invited senator sanders to speak next week. he talked about that earlier this morning and i want to play a portion of what he said and talk to you on the other end. >> and i must tell you that i am a very great fan of the role that pope francis has been playing in talking about inequality in this world. you know, it goes without saying that i have my strong disagreements with certain aspects of what the church stands for. but he has been out there talking about the need for a moral economy. a moral economy. >> so there are some
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similarities there and also sanders said there are issues that he and the pope disagrees on. besides that, what do you make of the fact that the presidential candidate speaking at the vatican during a heated presidential race? is that unusual? >> well, it's a little bit unusual. of course, the circumstances around it have been a bit controversial. he claims to have been invited by the vatican but the head of the pontiffical academy of services said they didn't invite him and then they say that's not true, we did reach out. so he will be part of this conference that's on economics and social issues, environment and there will be political people there. the president of bolivia will be there, the president of ecuador will be there and he's not giving a paper. he's just participating. presumably he'll speak and respond to some of the general discussion but it's a small academic conference. the pope may or may not be
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there. and he may not meet with the pope. so it's a kind of curious timing, especially so close to the new york primary. >> yeah. >> but also not completely surprising given his affinity for the pope and evidently he gives great appreciation for the pope, which is called praise to you, which deals with consumerism, greed, economy and with the environment and global warming. >> right. well, of course we'll be monitoring that. and we don't know if he's going to meet with the pope. but it's still interesting, nonetheless. brett strawn, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. we'll take you to the masters. all eyes and most of the pressure on one golfer that is trying to do something that only three others in history have done. we'll go live to augusta, next.
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well, golfer jordan spieth is trying to do something only three others have done in the 80-year history of the masters tournament, win it back to back. he's already done something rare start to finish heading into today's play. our andy scholes joins me now from augusta. how is spieth doing? >> reporter: well, i tell you what, pam, we have high drama going on right now in the back nine. he looked like he was rolling to
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his second straight masters' victory. he birdies sixth, seventh, eighth, nine. it looked like he had this thing won and then he bogeyed 10 and 11 and then on 12 he had an epic meltdown. he hit the ball in the water, had to drop, hit the ball in the water again and then found a buncher, ended up with a quadruple bogey. he's trying to make a comeback in the masters. he's down to three holes to go. your leader right now in the clubhouse is danny willet, a 28-year-old. they are expecting a child and he said he wasn't going to come to the masters and instead be there for the birth of this child but, luckily for him, the birthday came last week. he's here at the masters this week and willett is now in the lead at five under. spieth still has time, like i said, down to three holes to go
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and, pamela, the tradition at the masters is, last year's winner puts the green jacket on the winner from this year and i tell you what, man, that would be really sour if spieth has to put the jacket on willett after leading this entire tournament. >> what do you think happened? did the pressure get to him? >> reporter: so, on 11, he had a putt that would have been for par and it lifted up out of the cup and maybe the air came out of the sails. it's very uncharacteristic of jordan spieth because he's usually so level-headed and nothing gets to him. that's why he's been able to lead this whole tournament despite the windy conditions. very see to what has happened to him today. all of the fans are rooting for him and trying to see him win back to back masters. but he's up against it right
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now. >> all right. andy scholes, thank you so much. >> all right. coming up, we take you inside the final episode of the cnn series "race for the white house." we'll speak with a campaign adviser on how the clinton team fought to win the nomination and the lessons return as hillary clinton tries to repeat the feat. moderate to severe crohn's disease is tough, but i've managed. except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. and when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms
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well, before he was a two-term president, bill clinton was known as the comeback kid. allegations of an affair surfaced right before the new hampshire primary in 1992 and the clinton campaign was considered nearly dead. in this week's final episode of "race for the white house," we followed the clinton team as they fight to win back the hearts of the american people. and here's a sneak peek. >> though the facts remain jumbled, the 1992 news about clinton's 1969 draft status is that it has for the moment distracted his campaign. >> two scandals in less than a month have left bill clinton lagging behind his democratic rivals in the key new hampshire primary. >> bill clinton said, look, my own fault, i caused the problems, but i'm going to deal with them.
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we're going to win this. let's all get some sleep and let's go get them tomorrow morning. >> i just have one thing to say about the next eight days. i'm going to fight like hell. >> he started going to bowling alleys, shopping centers, he went anywhere that he could find people. but he just thought every moment, every second, i've got to try. >> good to see you. >> hang in there. >> i'll do it. >> hope things turn around for you. >> i do, too. >> it was the most remarkable thing i've seen in politics. literally watch a guy literally fight for his life, for his political life. >> well, joining me now is former adviser for bill clinton's 1992 campaign and the voice in the final episode, currently a political science professor at uc san diego and author of "the candidate: what it takes to win and hold the white house." thanks for coming on, samuel.
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appreciate it. i can't wait to get your perspective, especially when you look at this election cycle. this was the election that gave us, it's the economy, stupid, as bill clinton defeated president bush in this election. so what do you make of what's playing out now compared to then in 1992? >> well, i think if you look carefully at all of the columns every week another republican is wishing that their party could do what bill clinton and the democratic leadership conference did, which is rebuild the bridge from the left to the a bridge between the right and the center. so that the party doesn't keep getting the circular firing squads. i mean bill clinton did more than overcome scandals and the i didn't inhale. he figured out a way to say the same thing to blacks and whites who distrusted each other. he found a way to get people who thought abortion was no problem,
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and people who thought it was a problem, to agree on a common ground. he really worked on welfare and on work for everybody. and it was a remarkable job and to be part of that campaign makes up for the bad taste that so many other campaigns leave you when they fall apart. >> when you look at his wife, hillary clinton, she still has that sort of authenticity likeability problem. what do you think she needs to do to have the same awhha momen we all remember from bill clinton's campaign. >> she's not a natural let-loose person. when she gets asked in the right setting, it comes out. i find that ironic. i don't think anybody who runs for office is ever been more spiritual or learned more of bible than hillary clinton. but she can't just act it when it doesn't come out naturally. and she can drink most of the
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men in the senate under the table aordering to john mccain and lindsey graham. but you never see her in a bar, the way you did in 2008. so i'm, assuming she's waiting calmly for the republicans to stop shooting each other, and then she'll sort of loosen up. but you can never be sure. >> so leading up to the 1992 election, if you look back then, president bush, was riding high in the polls after the successful gulf war campaign that ousted saddam hussein from kuwait. but ultimately bill clinton exploited voter concerns on domestic issues. in your view, in this election, hillary clinton has the experience as secretary of state. but can the foreign policy expertise be a disadvantage in a way? >> absolutely. when you're visiting other countries, you're not visiting factories, you're not visiting main streets. you're not -- it can either be in the ukraine, afghanistan, ferguson, missouri.
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but you can't do them at the same time. and it does make people think you worry more about them than you worrying about me. it could be a real liability. >> so i have to ask, what other lessons from the 1992 election apply to today? >> i think the biggest one is don't get trapped early in desperation in taking an extreme position that you're not ready for later. and don't listen to the last friend you talked to, wait until you think out what traps you're setting. whether it's donald trump or ted cruz, getting caught on something they can't really admit is their position. it's a chess game, not a smash-mouth game in the end. >> very interesting. all right. well thank you so much, samuel popkins, great to have you on and get your perspective and look forward to seeing you in the drama that unfolds tonight
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♪ ♪ >> new york, ever present in our cultural imagination. this year taking an outsized role in our political process. even before the fight for new york's delegates was under way. new york played a starring role in the campaign. >> i think most people know exactly what new york values are. >> donald trump hit back as a man made in manhattan. and he promised to take an electoral bite out of the big apple. >> i love new york, okay? i will be campaigning in new york and if we win new york, it's over, you understand that? because we pick up so many delegates. >> trump is likely to beat john kasich here. kasich lost a lot of new yorkers when he swas spotted digging into a slice with a knife and fork. meanwhile the city's mean streets will be the scene of the next face-off between hillary clinton and bernie sanders.
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>> when you're a jet, you're a jet all the way from your first cigarette to your last dying day. >> brooklyn is home to both, sanders born and bred there clinton, the state's former senator, who headquartered her campaign there only one can win on either side, hopeful that as sinatra sang. ♪ new york, new york >> if can you make it here -- you can make it anywhere. ♪ >> jake tapper's own illustrations there. all right. and don't forget starting tomorrow, cnn's anderson cooper will host town halls with all three republican presidential candidates and their families over the next three days. and tomorrow night eel talk to ohio governor john kasich and his family. and then on tuesday night donald trump, his wife melania, daughter ivanka and sons, don, junior and eric will all be there. and texas senator ted cruz and
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his wife heidi, monday, tuesday and wednesday nights at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. and tonight on cnn, it's a night of cnn premieres at 9:00 eastern, the final episode of race for the white house. relive all the drama surrounding bush versus clinton and then at 10:00, join bill weir for a trip to the happiest place on earth. it's the wonder list, bhutan. but next, we begin with the "race for the white house" that does it for me, i'm pamela brown. thank you so much for watching and spending part of your sunday with us. hope you have a great week.
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you are the president nobody wanted. you want to be the most powerful man in the world. how far are you prepared to go? will you turn friends into enemies? will you break your own rules? if you want to be the most powerful man in the world, do the ends ever justify the means?


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