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do not adjust your clocks. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. the battle in brooklyn turning out to be more like a bare knuckle brawl. hillary clinton and bernie sanders clashing on policy and judgment on the democratic debate on cnn. their exchanges are testier than ever. >> while the democrats are trying to eat each other's lunch, the gop were eating dinner. things raucous outside with the trump protests. the question is how did the three men handle each other? we have ramifications from last night. let's go to john berman with the brooklyn brawl. >> reporter: chris, this is what it looks like when two candidates are sick of each other. this is what it looks like when two candidates are trying to stop fighting with each other. last night was a giant airing of
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degr grief. >> you want contrast? you want contentioucontentious? you got brooklyn. high tension, high drama debate of the high stakes of the moment. from the start, bernie sanders blasted hillary clinton's judgment. >> i question a judgment which voted for the war in iraq and i question her judgment about running super pacs. >> this is a question designed to raise questions when there is no support that he is putting forward in the attacks. >> but nearly ever sanders salvo was met by a clinton call for specifics. >> when millions of people lost their jobs and homes and life savings, the obvious response to
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that is you got a bunch of fraudulent operators and that they have got to be broken up. that was my view way back. i introduced legislation to do that. now secretary clinton was giving speeches to goldman sachs for $225,000 a speech. >> he cannot come up with an example because there is no example. it's always important. it maybe inconvenient, but it is always important to get the facts straight. i stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. i called them out on their mortgage behavior. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. and was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements? >> speeches for which hillary clinton still says she will not release the transcripts.
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>> let's set the same standard. >> the brooklyn brawl ran so hot at times, they needed to be separated by the ref. >> i'm sure a lot of people are surprised to learn you support raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> wait a minute -- wait a minute. i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times. >> secretary, senator, please. >> i raise the standard. let's do it. >> if you are both screaming at each other, the viewers will not hear either of you. >> i have said from the very beginning that i supported the fight for 15. i supported those on the frontlines for the fight. it happens to be true. >> i think the secretary is confused a lot of people. i don't know how you are for the fight for 15 when you say you
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wanted $12 national minimum wage. >> and clinton offering an apology of sorts for the 1994 crime bill her husband signed into law. >> i'm sorry for the consequences that were unintended and have had a very unfortunate impact on people's lives. >> sanders when pushed with no apology for his positions on gun control. >> i don't believe it is appropriate that a gun shop owner who just sold a legal weapon to be held accountable and sued. >> and including no apologies to families of sandy hook who criticized his opposition to lawsuits against some gun sellers. >> i don't think i owe them the apology. they have the right to sue. i support them and anyone else who wants the right to sue. >> i think there is one line from hillary clinton that summed up what both sides are trying to make. she said i don't take a backseat to legislation that you introduced and you haven't been
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able to get passed. the distinction between dreaming and doing. guys. >> john, thanks so much for giving us all of that. if case anybody was sleeping last night, here to breakdown the key moments is political analyst and host of the david gregory show podcast, david gregory. we have jackie kosinich. david, what's your take away? >> a lot of points scored both sides. a contentious affair. it shows at this stage of the campaign, they are getting sick of each other. john said you have a real contrast. two visions about how to make government operate. what issues to take on. bernie sanders is much more of idealist within the party and progressive within the party who wants to put on the agenda issues that are worthy for discussion that progressives care about. whether or not there is a
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legislative path for getting some of the things accomplished, it is talking about them, asserting them and standing up for them that others in the party think is appropriate and important. whereas, hillary clinton is on the other side saying look, i may agree with some of these things and disagree with others. you have to concentrate on what you can get done. that is what is playing out for voters. i'm not sure last night moved a lot in terms of the argument in the new york primary and beyond. >> that's the key. the line we like to play with in the campaign and govern and prose. that doesn't sound very satisfying on the stump. this is the time to push people's imaginations and get them ginned up. that being said, do you believe that either one of them moved the ball on that issue of who will be able to get an agenda? >> i don't think so. i really think that this sort of solidified what they have been
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saying on the campaign trail. they started at 11 and stayed at 11 for two hours. no, i think bernie sanders reiterated what he needed to. hillary clinton, pragmatism doesn't set the world on fire. that probably gave her supporters a bit more. let's play what jackie is talking about. >> we have got to understand that in america we should be thinking big, not small. >> i think you've got to go at this with a sense of how to accomplish the goal we are setting. >> you know agreements and i know agreements. there's a lot of paper. we have to get beyond paper. the little steps are not enough. >> i don't take a backseat to your legislation that you introduced that you haven't been able to get passed. i want to do what we can do to actually make progress in dealing with the crisis.
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>> there you go. i mean, that's it right there in stark relief. the idealism versus incrementalism. >> you saw the race condensed at points in a few moments. when they were talking about her support of fracking abroad. he let the standard we should not be for this. there are countries relying on coal and a long way from solar and wind. fracking is a natural gas important step of progress. i do think it does crystalize the party. it is hard to move the needle at this point in the primary. the democrats have to come to terms with why so many voters are responding to swinging for the fences. if you are debating to raise the minimum wage to $12 an hour or $15 an hour, it is like irrigating mars with fresh
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water. donald trump could have the same risk on the other side if he is the nominee. >> you see it on the right. how many republicans in exit polls are talking about betrayal with the represent party. that they did not stand up for principles more. i think voters who are conditioned for disappointment say what do we have to lose? >> the paradox is frustration with the reality of government and the ability for both sides unable to move the agenda for even more extreme movement away from the center and the difficulty of imagining how you do that stuff in a country that is still pretty closely divided. >> that is the existential crisis is. we know what the right has decided. everything is wrong. everything is bad. then dot, dot, dot.
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that's not clear. what was clear last night, jack jackie, we saw bernie sanders coming at you not as a critic, but alternative. i can be the guy. it is not just we have to think about it. did you pick that up? >> he is the disrupter on the left. he is saying it is time for that. that's what you hear from his people. to david's point, i was talking to people at al sharpton's event yesterday who were sanders supporters who were not teenagers or in their 20s. we have been promised a lot by politicians. hillary clinton promised a lot when she was senator from new york and could not get it done. if there is a chance he can get it done, i will vote for him. >> there are voters i talked to over twitter. somebody said look, he's got my heart. she's got my head.
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i ho want to see from him a plan of action. that was exploited again by her. the larger point is what did sanders do last night that helps him on what ron talked about. the demographics of the race. >> what is the last campaign that won on a plan? >> right. i agree with that. >> at this point in the race, the grooves are cut deeply. he has had a very good period p he . he is heading into a difficult period. there are a lot of african-american voters. you know, you can see the rhythm of where it is going forward. >> he is still pulling in money. the $27 donations are adding up. he has a reason to keep going. >> i they we all agree that the politicians are operating within the conventional parameters.
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whether paul ryan or hillary clinton. they have to reckon with why so many voters are flocking to alternatives when in the past they would consider beyond the pale. there is a frustration in the system that people are operating within the system that have to figure that out. >> coming up, we will hear from both campaigns. jeff weaver and joel beneson will join us. stick around for that. michaela. hundreds of anti-trump protesters crashing a new york city hotel last night where the three republican candidates addressed a gop gala. also this morning, donald trump intensifying the war with the republican party in an op-ed railing on a rigged system for delegates. we have manu raju with all of this from washington. >> reporter: good morning.
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donald trump is not backing down with the war of words hoping to continue to tap into frustration with the party establishment. he writes what we are seeing now is not a proper use of the rules, but a flagrant use of the rules. delegates are supposed to reflect the voters, but this system is rigged with operatives with double agent delegates. trump was joined by kasich and cruz. trump continued to seize on the criticism of new york values. trump was greeted more enthusiastically inside the room. all ahead of the primary in new york where 95 delegates are at stake. the trump campaign has a good shot of taking all of them. >> thank you. we have corey lewandowski joining us live in our 7:00 a.m.
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bernie sanders feeling confident going into the new york primary as he heads off attacks by hillary clinton's campaign. here's what bernie sanders told cnn's jeff zeleny after last night's bruising debate. >> my view is that i have a d minus voting record from the nra. i supported the president on every major gun legislation and initiative that he's brought forth. in terms of expanding the background check. we have to get guns out of the hands of people that should not
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have them. i think, you know, that is my view. >> why not say you are holding that view when you were senator from vermont. as president, you have a different view. >> my view is what it is. that is we have to do everything we can to get guns out. i tell you something else. it is very easy to have a point of view which is not going to go any place. i honestly believe we have 50 states in the country. if we succeed and do more than give speeches, we have to create consensus. i believe there is consensus out there which wants to make certain we get guns out of the hands of people that do not have them. you know, there are issues where we disagree today. i think the world has seen this. secretary clinton has a super pac. she has a 401 -- a pac that raises money without allowing disclosure. i don't think you are able to convince ordinary americans in new york or any place else that
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you will stand up to the drug companies who are ripping us off or wall street. >> on the crime bill, secretary clinton says she regrets support for the 1994 crime bill. you voted for it. yes or no? do you agree? >> it was a vote that led to a lot of awful things. you cannot say in retrospect. if i voted the other way, you will hear hillary clinton say bernie sanders you have a chance to vote against that. you didn't do that. you have the ability to vote for the violence against women act. you cannot look at it like that. i know bill has caused disastrous problems in mass incarceration. we need to radically reform a broken criminal justice system. the differences with the secretary and me come down to a simple reality. i don't believe you will make the changes you need for working families unless you stand up to
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the big money interests. i don't think you will stand up to the big money interests when you take their money. >> there you go. it was interesting. david gregory said a voter told him last night which was interesting. he, bernie sanders, has his heart. hillary clinton has his head. that is really a fundamental difference between so many people's votes. >> he will hear one of those quotes to jeff zeleny in a context he doesn't like. it is easy to have a point of view that's not going to go anywhere. you need consensus. that is the case against him by the clinton campaign when it comes to some of his bigger ambitious proposals. you can hold the view. can you get it to go anywhere? >> as we speak, sanders is on a plane headed to rome. he will give a ten-minute speech at the vatican. many people think that is a peculiar choice. just days before the new york primary. that's what he's doing this weekend. >> he says it was an invitation
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question. is the justice amount working for you? is it just about colorado or a larger message at play? let's discuss with the host of the david gregory show podcast, david gregory. we have jackie kucinich and we have ron brownstein. what's your opinion, mr. podcast? >> i'm asking people to subscribe to that. you are doing me a favor. look, i think that donald trump is in the middle of what almost two weeks now of an argument about a rigged political system that he hasn't caught up to because he wasn't prepared enough for the machinery of how to win delegates. i think that he's, as i have been saying all week, inside and
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an outside game. the outside game is to argue about the system and to play to his brand, but the inside game is to start to work the system to his favor. if he wins in new york, if he should win convincingly, he gets to the stretch where he can put concerns to bed and put himself in a good position. he is still in command of the race. he is in a better position if he wins in new york. >> jackie, "the new york post" is endorsing trump. in it, they say, should he win the nomination, we expect trump to pivot. not just on the issues, but in his manner. post pivot trump needs to be more presidential and better informed on policy and more disciplined and less thin skinned. are there any issues are waiting to come out? >> it is like they are endorsing a different candidate. we have high hopes for trump. please change everything you're doing. he said he's different in private. he said he will be different after he knocks off the next two
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candidates. until he faces hillary and he will go after her. he has kind of signalled that he's going to shift. we haven't seen any evidence of it. other than the fact he has brought on these washington hands, he has this op-ed in "the wall street journal." >> can positive beat negative in this cycle? >> i think it is tough. you have 65% saying we're on a wrong track. that is a big headwind in the face of the positive message. i think in the end, you have to convince people, the majority of americans, you can make their life better. david said the inside game and outside game conflict at some point. the insiders you need, if you fall short of the 1,237, he will need some unbound republican delegates to align with him to get him over the top. he is basically saying you are
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part of the corrupt system. i understand why he wants to rally his troops with this us against them mentality. i do think it is hard to make the positive message in the environment where people are frustrated with the political system has and has not produced. the median income is lower than it is today than 15 years ago. >> reagan did it. in new york. in a positive time with a negative message. he won new york. >> and bernie sanders supporters are pureists. >> but define pure. you will get hate mail. welcome to our world. >> so bernie sanders supporters are -- >> ideological. >> that's what i'm saying. ideologically, they expect bernie sanders to be a
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progressive's progressive. donald trump, not so much. >> what we are learning about trump is there is something about this. his negativity and him bashing him. he is deliberately outrageous. it's cynical, but it's outrageous to say this whole process should be charicatured. in areas of policy he has not thought through. personal characteristics are more important than issues in a presidential race. >> i think there is an issue base in this. if you look at the 21 states with exit polls, two states with a majority of republicans supported idea of supporting 12 million people. in all of those states, people who support the idea are on donald trump's vote. he is getting a proportional share. he is speaking to something in
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the republican party and changing nature of the growing importance of the blue collar republicans who are responding to his ideas on immigration and trade. no matter what the post wants, he will face a lot of trouble with the groups at the core of the democratic coalition when he gets to the general election. >> alisyn? we need a forum where the delicate and sensitive and sometimes we use the word abstress issues. someone with provocative and sports an interesting two-tone effect of eyebrows to hair. >> if only we could find someone like that and if they had a podcast called "the david gregory show." >> plenty of that. we will breakdown the derevation of that word. there i am doing the podcast. >> an action shot.
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>> so casual. >> i wear a hoodie most of the time. this is different. these are interviews. the first is from andy cohen. i talked to mitt romney and arianna huffington. this is also about politics and pop culture. these are more intimate conversational discussion was people where my curiosity leads me. i'm not always trying to make news. i'm trying to explore what makes people tick. >> do you feel a lot in this? >> feel. i share about myself. >> and areas of stuff that i share that you will make fun of. >> no! >> impossible. for you, i will learn how to download. thank you, guys. donald trump's campaign manager corey lewandowski joins us live in the 7:00 hour. he has been at the center of a lot of headlines lately.
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>> senator sanders did call me unqualified. i have been called a lot of things in my life. that's a first. >> your answer has been the same year after year. >> i love being in brooklyn. this is great. >> welcome on board. i'm glad you're here. >> let's bring in the media analysts. host of reliable sources, brian stelter. and senior reporter for media and politics, dylan byer. let's look at the headlines from the tabloids. can we put them up? "bern belts hill." "brooklyn brawlers." is there enough material in last night? >> there is an enormous amount of material if people's minds were not changed. there was a sense of finality. clinton entered a year ago. sanders almost a year ago. there is not a tenth debate on the calendar. they agreed to maybe meet up in
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may. the clinton campaign would like this to be over by then. as of now, this is the last debate. it felt to me like the last debate. a summation. >> dylan byers, it seemed last night to some that bernie sanders was offering himself as alternative more than he ever had before. not just an idealist or critic. your take. >> i think that's absolutely right. i would say to brian's point, i think the democratic prima arrived in new york right on time. i don't know if it is coincidence, but the tone and ration and contempt these candidates seem to have for each other is pitch perfect for the new york city tabloid culture. you know, on the one hand, a lot of the talking points we saw last night with the candidates and how they pitched themselves is not fundamentally different from what they have been doing over the last year and eight debates. what is different is the tone
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and willingness to go after each other and undermine each other and go at each other directly rather than separate pitches. the debate was uncivil in a way we hadn't seen yet. that befits the new york city media. >> that was partly because of the audience. i noticed beforehand, the audience was asked to keep the debate on the stage and not in the audience. i did not hear a lot of booing, but a lot of chanting by sanders supporters. it is an even mix of clinton and sanders supporters in the room. sanders supporters were effective. putting their fists up in the air. you had that sports arena vibe as "the new york times" said. it felt more like a gop debate. >> maybe the best played advantage to t advantage to the crowd was the summation. it caused an interruption.
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that often can be something to sway media perception of what happened. also, do you think bernie sanders is a little bit rhetorical advantage because pushing flourishing and big ideas is more sexy to cover and pragmatism? >> i think that is right. you think about the size of the rallies that sanders tries to create. the images he create was the big rallies like the one with washington square park this week. that is an advantage visually and rhetorically as well when he is talking about imagining bold changes. it certainly warms the heart strings. maybe that is why we are at the place where people never thought a year ago. supporters of sanders that felt marginalized for a long time. one of the take aways after the ninth debate, there a candidate and person conveying their message. even if as all of the indications would be, clinton would take the new york prima primary away.
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there is a candidate on the left that embodied what a significant part of the country feels. they didn't feel they were being heard before. it feels two hours in the primetime debate summarized that position. >> my issue last night is when they didn't answer the questions. the audience wasn't having it. bernie sanders was able to say how hillary clinton had been influenced by her wall street speaking fees. for hillary clinton is what is her unsatisfactory answer on why she would not release her wall street transcripts. to brian's point, bernie sanders has had the rhetorical advantage for a long time. someone put it lafst night, he s a preacher and she is a teacher. he has the message that benefits to campaigning in poetry and she campaigns in prose.
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and the policies cast by "the new york daily news" where he was unable to answer fundamental questions about policy. that put him at something of a disadvantage and cast more scrutiny on the rhetorical flourishes he had. >> something we didn't hear is sanders was going after "the daily news" endorsement. saying it was a set up. the editor of the paper was giving money to clinton. >> clinton brought up the interview right away. that was a big win although she was not if the room. editorial news is important. >> dylan and brian, thank you. alisyn. hillary clinton and bernie sanders getting testy at the debate. we have a full breakdown of the highs and lows next.
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senator sanders did call me unqualified. that was a first. >> do we really feel confident about a candidate so dependent on big money interests? >> i stood up against the behaviors of the banks. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. >> god bless the great state of new york. >> honesty and straight talking. >> i haven't built any buildings, but i have spent my entire life fight to go defend the constitution. >> we risk losing everything. >> isn't it amazing the way some names just stick to people? >> this is "new day" with chris quo he mow, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira.
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good morning. welcome to your post debate edition of "new day". it is friday, april 15th, 6:00 in the east. so when you are on the docks in brooklyn at night, there may be a fight. and there was last night. bernie sanders and hillary clinton were just a couple hey hos away from it out there. both looking to land a knockout punch with the new york primary four days away. so what changed last night in this race? >> you went full sopranos there with hey ho. donald trump and ted cruz and john kasich all speaking at a gop gala in manhattan where outside hundreds of anti-trump protest demonstrated. trump is asking voters one big question in an op ed. we have the 2016 election covered only the way cnn. john berman breaking down the broo

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