michaela pereira. good morning. welcome to your post debate edition of "new day". it is friday, april 15th, 6:00 in the east. so when you are on the docks in brooklyn at night, there may be a fight. and there was last night. bernie sanders and hillary clinton were just a couple hey hos away from it out there. both looking to land a knockout punch with the new york primary four days away. so what changed last night in this race? >> you went full sopranos there with hey ho. donald trump and ted cruz and john kasich all speaking at a gop gala in manhattan where outside hundreds of anti-trump protest demonstrated. trump is asking voters one big question in an op ed. we have the 2016 election covered only the way cnn. john berman breaking down the brooklyn debate.
>> bright lights, big city, big debate. the biggest yet. in some ways the most bruising yet. two candidates on stage who really wanted to end this whole thing right there. you want contrast? >> i do question judgment. >> you want con tense? >> describing the problem is a lot easier than trying to solve it. >> you have brooklyn. high tension, high drama debate befitting the high stakes at the moment. bernie sanders blasted hillary clinton's judgment. >> i questioned her judgment when she voted for the war in iraq. and i questioned her judgment about wanting super pacs. >> this is a phony attack that is designed to raise questions when there is no evidence or support that he is putting forward in these attacks. >> thank you, secretary. >> nearly every sanders sal sroe
was met for a call by specifics. >> when millions of people lost their games and their homes and life savings, the obvious response to that is that you got a bunch of fraudulent operators and that they have got to be broken up. that was my view way back. and i introduced legislation to do that. now, secretary clinton was busy giving speeches to goldman sachs for $225,000 a speech. >> he can't come up with any example because there is no example. it's always important -- it may be inconvenient, but it's always important to get the facts straight. i stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. i called them out on their mortgage behavior. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this.
and was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements behind them? >> speaking engagements for which hillary clinton said she will not release the transcripts. >> let's stet set the same standard for everybody. when they do it, i will do it. >> they needed to be separated by the ref. >> i'm sure a lot of people will be surprised to learn you suggest raising minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> i have stood on the debate stage eight prior times. if we can raise it, let's do it. >> if you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of. >> you i said from the very beginning i supported the fight for 15. i supported those on the front lines on the fight for -- it
happens to be true. >> well, i think the secretary is confused. a lot of people, i don't know how you are for the fight for $15 when you said you want a $12 minimum wage. >> clinton offering an apology of sorts for the 1994 crime bill her husband signed into law. >> i'm sorry for the consequences that were unintended and that have had a very unfortunate impact on people's lives. >> but sanders, when pushed with no apology, for his positions on gun control. >> i don't believe it's appropriate for a gun shop owner who just sold a legal weapon to be held accountable and be sued. >> including no apologies for victims of sandy hook victims who criticized his view on some gun sellers. >> they have the right to sue. and i support them and anyone else who wants the right to sue.
>> that was the division both candidates made. the vision between dreaming and doing. that's the division between the supporters as well. >> we happened to catch up with bernie sanders after that debate. he sounded off on the hillary clinton super pac and his stance to gun control. here's what he told jeff zeleny. >> my view is i have a d-minus voting record from the nra. i supported the president on every major gun legislation and initiative he has brought forth. in terms of expanding background check, doing away with the gun show lobby. we have to get guns out of the hands of the people who should not have them. >> why not say you're holding that view and you're a senator of vermont. as a president, you might have a
different view. >> my view is what it is. and i'll tell you something else, it is easy to have a point of view that is not going to go anyplace. we have 50 states in this country. if we're going to succeed and do more than give speeches, we have to create a con sus. and i believe there is a consensus out there which wants to make certain we get hands out of the guns of people who should not have them. but there are issues where we disagreed today. secretary clinton has a super pac. she has a 401, a pac, an organization that raises money without allowing disclosure. i don't think you're able to convince ordinary americans in new york or anyplace else that you're going to stand up to the drug companies who are ripping us off or wall street when you take their money. >> hi points, low points discussed. we have host of the david
gregory show podcast, david gregory you can subscribe today. today is the first day you can subscribe to the podcast. no discount. and in the daily beast, jackie kucinich and ron brownstein. i believe that was the irony of the night certainly for the clinton campaign. to hear bernie sanders say, look, you can have this great point of view. but it may not go anywhere. you need consensus. he was talking about guns. but will that have metaphors. he's a realist on guns but not anybody else, breaking up banks or flacking or other issues around the world. this is the knock against him. he's talking about things that may be important but a lot of progress if's in the country believe in but don't have an opportunity to get done legislatively. so is talking about them enough?
that was his argument on guns. yet on everyone else he is supposed to be believed. this is the fault line in the race. you say you may not like me. may be around a long time and part of this establishment, but i know how to work within this system. he is saying, no, i'm going to outside the system. >> but hillary clinton is overpromising on guns. she is saying she can push through things that will be blocked by congress. >> one reason that is the fault line, she has chose not to challenge him on the substance of most of his on ideas. in the ring last night was fascinating. you see a democratic party that clearly believes they have more latitude than they used to to propose an agenda left of
center. culturally, more consistently liberal across the board. how far in they went on gun control, both of them, is a reflection of their belief that they have a different coalition. obama in 2008 didn't run on gun control. this is a different democratic party. we will see in the general election whether they have overshot the mark. >> idealism versus pragmatism. here are the moments that captured it. watch this. >> we have got to understand that in america we should be thinking, not small. >> i think you've got to go at this with a sense of how to accomplish the goal we are setting. >> you know agreements, i know agreements. there's a lot of paper there. we've got to get beyond paper right now. incrementalism and those little steps are not enough. >> i don't take a back seat to
your legislation that you haven't been able to get passed. i want to do what we can do to actually make progress in dealing with the crisis. >> jackie, what was your takeaway? anything that broke new ground, or did they just put a finer point on it? >> it is like all the stump speeches we have listened to over and over again, with the other being able to respond in real-time. incident just reinforced what their base has been saying all along. however, it was loud. it was chippy. as we have been saying, these two are sick of each other. they know this race isn't big enough for the both of them. >> at one point they credit tallized the entire argument so well when they talked about her frac agriculture broad. he said we can't trust you because you promoted fracking in other countries. she said if you have countries dependent on coal and they need between a future and solar wind, natural gas is a step in the
right direction. >> incremental steps. >> and i felt in that two minutes you have the whole race as it stand right now. again, because she has chosen not to make an ideological argument. >> sanders wants the 1994 crime bill to be a metaphor to african-american voters. a lot of this is geared towards new york. they both think they need to make a special mark here. could it be that gun issue will be the metaphor issue for african-americans here? did bernie do enough to finesse to score? >> i don't think so. she revealed a long-held view as a senator and politician who is much out of sync on the issue of guns and restricting gun access. so i think that is a vulnerable point for him.
it is a vulnerable point politically in a state like new york. i think there is no doubt about it. the issues of the '90s crime bill, that is interesting. this is part of what happens when you're in public life for a long time. the trends within the party, sociologically, she has to answer for all that. she is not able to say, yes, my president signed that bill. it is a big part of the legacy to own. >> when i asked supporters who are african-american the last couple days, they say they forgive her. she apologized. they're ready to move on. >> the reality is you have the leading african-american big city mayors supporting and even demanding the bill. it is hard to understand the context in which that bill was passed. there were 2,200 people murdered
in new york city in the year 1990. in fact, it did divide the african-american community. it divided liberals. who was advocating it? substantial support across the board. >> which is why it is is interesting that last night she chose to apologize for the unintended consequences of it. in hindsight, there is always unintended consequences. is that why? >> she continued the strategy. she is not drawing an ideological line with bernie sanders. she is reflecting the changing nature of the democratic coalition. there are fewer working class whites and people that we grew up with queens, fewer of them are democrats. they have been replaced by millennials which moved to the left. and she's winning them. >> look at minimum wage or health care. she said, sure, universal health care, if we can get there we can
get there, all for it. you want $15 a wage, great. how about we do $12. if we can get to $15, great. >> we're going to talk about all that policy momentarily. >> we will hear from both campaigns. we have jeff weaver and joel benenson. no better way to get a sense of where these campaigns are headed than the guys directing the show. >> absolutely. meantime, donald trump blasting what he calls a rigged delegate system and asking voters is the system working for them in an op ed. manu maju is there. >> good morning, michaela. 95 delegates are at stake. donald trump needing a big win to reboot the race.
he is trying to accomplish something he he has been successful at, fermenting anger at the party establishment. this morning donald trump speaking out against the republican party in a new op ed in the wall street journal, appealing directly to americans about the voting system he believes is corrupt. asking how has the system been working for you and your family. airing grievances about how delegates are selected. delegates were chosen on behalf of a presidential nominee, yet the people of colorado were not able to cast their ballots to say which nominee they preferred." while last night hundreds of protesters gathered outside a black tie gop fund-raising event in new york city. inside, all three remaining republican candidates sharing the stage. >> i love to speak here because i built this hotel. >> touting and using the platform to once again slam ted cruz's teak of new york values.
>> the people in the towers who helped rescue each other, those are those of new york values. >> the new york crowd seemingly ignoring the texas senator during his speech. >> i will admit to you i haven't built any buildings in new york city, but i have spent my entire life fight to go defend the constitution and the bill of rights. >> governor john kasich wasting little time attacking cruz and trump else unpopularity among the american public, painting a grim picture of what is at stake in this election. >> do you know what will happen if we nominate people of high negatives and cannot beat hillary? we will lose everything from the white house, to the courthouse, to the statehouse. >> they began weekly outreach meetings with members of congress. ed brookover told a half dozen house republicans that the
campaign would clinch the nomination in the june primary in california. when i asked brookover about the possibility of a contested convention, he predicted it would be a glide path to the nomination. it just shows how much the trump campaign needs to win outright starting in new york next week, or it could be a big problem for him in cleveland this summer, michaela. >> we will hear more from team trump. corey lewandowski will join us. hillary clinton and bernie sanders butting heads on many issues last night, including support for israel in this heated debate. so our panel looks at what won on issues next. discover card. i missed a payment. aw, shoot. shoot! this is bad. no! we're good! this is your first time missing a payment. and you've got the discover it card, so we won't hike up your apr for paying late. that's great! it is great! (both simultaneously) thank you. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness.
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why did you call her out? >> because it was a racist term and everyone knew it was a racist term. >> bernie sanders accusing hillary clinton of using racist language in the 1990s. we have david gregory, jackie kucinich and errol lewis. he was one of the questioners at last night's debate. let's start with you. great job is last night. so that was an intense moment where he said it was a racist term, and then the cloud erupted. >> the crowd was erupting all night. let's be clear. they came to yell and to shout. i thought bernie sanders really tried to give the crowd what they wanted. look, it was racist. he acknowledged something that i haven't noticed.
he voted for that. he is using harsh terms many at the end of the day, she was we have to stop the gangsters and drug dealers and violent criminalsment the fact that he voted for the bill -- >> can you have it both ways? >> he apparently can. what he said is that, look, this has got to be sort of dealt with and talked about even 20 years later. black lives protesters support bernie sanders or his stance on this, they have raised it as an issue 20 years after the fact. he is condemning him for a bill he voted on. she was first lady at the time. >> is there irony -- is any regret about the people complaining about the unintended
consequences. never got delivered. still hasn't been delivered. the types of opportunities in the communities of african-americans that would deter crime, education, health care, job placement. that's the big gripe. you gave us the harsh part but not the good part that. never came up last night. >> that's right. if you go back can and go through what was going on. 2,000 murders a year in new york city. it was a horrible time. it was a really difficult time. and the understanding is, i think even in hindsight, none of the prosperity that happened in a lot of these cities would have been possible until you got the crime situation under control. that was clearly understood but almost everybody who support the bill and the legislators who voted for it. we call it the peace dividend.
when there are 2,000 murders a year, you can walk around at night. now you can get a night job. that is not something you would have tried in 1989 or 1990. it was just that bad. >> this is an example too. government doesn't often do this well. government can respond to crisis. it doesn't do as well at thinking forward and providing a piece dividend, looking at broader social issues. bernie sanders supported that. that was can we get a big omnibus crime bill through, can we beef up the enforcement piece in order to get a crime bill done and get something out of this. he supported that. that was a compromise represented in that bill that is that fault line we are seeing right now between the two candidates. >> let's talk about another big issue, the middle east and israel. bernie sanders was asked to justify his position on israel. he said in the past israel's
response to some of the attacks has been disproportionate. so listen to this. >> israel was subjected to terrorist attacks, has every right in the world to destroy terrorism. but we have in the gaza area, not a large area, some 10,000 civilians wounded and some 1,500 who were killed. now, if you're asking me, not just me, but countries all over the world, was that a disproportionate attack, the answer is i believe it was. >> how does that play, jackie? >> strike to go hear a major presidential candidate say that. that is the strain of thinking on t on the left side of a democratic party. hillary clinton is very different. she's a foreign policy hawk. >> let me also say, clinton,
bill clinton was so popular in eus lail. they are hawk issue and he is representing both within the jewish community and within the progressive liberal community real concern about israel, the policies of israel. it is strike to go give it such voice about supporting israel and criticism of israel in this case that you see within the democratic party. it is there. it is politically among his supporters. >> do you think this is a make gains, to start questioning the relationship? >> no. i certainly don't think in the party at large. as a jew within the religious community this is a big -- this is a fight about where progressive vies are vis avis
israel. it is quite unusual within the tratic party for him to put this kind of -- the view of -- even an even-handed approach, that the idea that this was proportionate hamas using human shields. >> it is certainly not something you hear in new york debates. it is interesting. it's like talking about abortion in alabama, right? there are certain places you're just not going to go. normallieer in part because there is a big jewish population. this has been a discussion that doesn't go into those nuances. discussions are going on but not on the stage -- >> in a new york pry so many jewish voters. >> thank you, panel. >> we're following breaking news, alisyn. an incredible rescue following a deadly earthquake in japan.
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donald trump likes to talk, but there's something he's not talking about that matters a lot. changes to his campaign team. he's added two political strategists to help prepare for the likelihood of a contested republican convention in july. so let's take a look who has been added and what's going on on the inside of team trump. here to discuss is gabriel sherman author of "the loudest voice in the room." spent a great deal of time with the trfpl campaign. good to have you back. first question, the man we have at the top of the food chain,
corey lewandowski. does he still believe there? >> interesting question. i think paul manafort may disagree. i did not vote him off the island. >> welcome to the show, my brother. this is how we work the screens. joined the campaign half a year before the announcement. he's been his guy. he got wrapped up in controversy recently. no prosecution with michelle fiel fields, the reporter. >> the campaign has shifted to this new phase. it is a delegate fight. it is down in the weeds of how it works. that is not corey lewandowski's strong suit. that's why the power shifted to paul manafort. >> we will take him and throw him. there he will wind up. a lot of controversy surrounding
this. the headline is, oh, he was in the last contested convention in 1976 so he knows how to do it. but there is a lot more to manafort than just 1976. >> he is a man who has been a fixer in washington. he's been a hired gun for foreign governments, business interests, working behind the scenes. when i was doing my profile of the trump campaign at the magazine, we had a very difficult time finding a current photo of paul manafort because he has been working so in the shadows for political clients not mainstream republican politics. he is really a creature of power and influence in washington but not someone you see on the front page. >> how does this play in terms of consistency with what trump says, which is that inside game is dirty. i know what it's like. not me. i'm going to play a different game. and then hires this guy. >> in a certain way, manafort is an outsider.
he takes on a lot of clients that mainstream won't take on. in the ukraine, two into place that big lobbyists say i don't want to get into bed with these guys. so in that sense he is an outsider the way trump does. trump is saying i would like to get into a room with putin. he doesn't look at things in black and white. it is shades of gray. >> he was with governor scott walker out in wisconsin. rick wiley. >> wiley is a creature of republican politics. he worked for scott walker. he's worked at the republican national committee. he used to work for mercury, which is a very respectable washington, d.c. firm.
he has deep connections in the republican party. just today a report on how the rules of the convention will be written. it is important that trump has a guy like that who knows the republican party. what does it mean for lewandowski if you have manafort and wiley, both known as top dogs in your midst? what do you think it means? >> clearly your power has been diminished. curious to see what he says on your show. he was the guy at trump's side day in and day out. >> he was the guy, period. there was no one else. >> these guys are all professionals. >> sam clovive is another one with a long-time history in organizing. had his own radio show for a while. >> it is important to point out clovis is there from the beginning. so he knows how to work with lewandowski. >> hope hicks is a new name.
she is young this area of working the press secretary is under some review within the campaign. what do you know? >> they brought in a former member of the huckabee campaign. it's remarkable her and donald trump were fielding every media request. you just can't run a campaign that way. you need to be planning strategically. the fact that donald trump did the chris matthews interview. a lot of people said why was he he even doing that interview? matthews is a hostile interviewer. >> she is working for a guy who doesn't take a lot of advice from people. >> he is the strategyist. he is running the campaign. >> these changes, do you think we will see more? >> of course. as it gets closer to the general election as he tries to shore up this nomination, he has to professionalize his campaign.
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regular season history, warriors will host the rockets on saturday. that's just one of four games tipping off tomorrow. 12:30 eastern. they go all day. the warriors are the current favorites in las vegas to win the nba championship. alisyn. >> okay, andy, thanks so much for that. hillary clinton and bernie sanders duking it out in tpraobg lynn. ted cruz launching a new attack on new york values.
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it is a campaign that will not only on capture the democratic nomination but a campaign that will defeat whoever. >> i think we're going to win this, to tell you the truth. >> well, there you have it. both hillary clinton and bernie sanders declaring they will be the democratic party nominee during last night's brooklyn brawl. joining us now is cnn politics executive editor mark reston and david. great to have both of you guys. i know you're burning the midnight oil. great to have you here with us. is this just magical math that bernie sanders is doing in his own head when he says that he is going to be the nominee even though she has newer delegates? >> i don't think they will come on and say i don't think i'm
going to be the nominee. the math is in her favor. he's not at the place where he will concede the election to her. he still has a ton of money in the bank. and he's coming off these wins that have given him momentum. he has a rationale. he knows the math is getting harder. you would not expect him to concede an inch last night, and he didn't. >> not only that. the polls have shifted. let me put up the latest national polls. clinton is now 48%. sanders is 46%. >> the way things have played out so far, there's no way that is going to happen. >> he says the math is changing for him. the south, she did better. now they are heading to the north. >> what he's hoping for, ironically, he is hoping to have momentum and hoping to show what
we saw a couple nights ago here in new york where 27,000 people come out and rally. we heard supporters in the audience. he's hoping to gain the momentum, two into philadelphia, show momentum and get the superdelegates to come to his side to get him over the finish line. >> okay. is that scenario possible. and is a contested convention on the democratic side, we talk a lot about the gop side. is that likely? >> i don't think so and here's why. in 1984 when the superdelegates were put into place, they never upended the will of the pledged delegates. if pwerpy sanders is not able to overtake hillary clinton in the pledged delegate battle, he loses his best argument to the superdelegates as to why they should come his way. right now she has 200 plus, 220, something ike that, pledge delegate gap. that's pretty significant when
you break them up proportion tph proportionally. unless he can somehow truly change the way this race has been going, here's the thing. bernie sanders has had a good campaign here. he really has. he can't keep doing just what he's doing and get to the finish line. he actually needs a change in the dynamic. we haven't seen that yet. >> he had a surprise in michigan. is it possible tuesday in new york that the momentum and the 27,000 people, crowd, does shift for him and he denies her the opportunity to pick up all the delegates? >> it is not probable. it is not a probable scenario. we talk about bernie sanders leaving and going to the vatican 24 hours and how bad capitalism is. hillary clinton is leaving too. if she were that concerned she wouldn't be going out to raise
money. worst-case scenario. however, he can use that to his advantage to be a player in the united states senate. he been be the voice for progressives and liberals. if he doesn't win the nomination, bernie sanders can still be a player in american politics. >> this morning on "the new york post", the tabloid here in new york is publishing their endorsement of donald trump. they say should he win the nomination, we expect trump to pivot not just on the issues but in his manner. post pivot trump needs to be more presidential, better informed, more disciplined, and less thin skinned. is that possible? >> i think it's entirely possible. donald trump has proven to be "the master" marketer in american politics this cycle. he can brand like nobody else.
he has shown an ability to move when he has to move. remember in the 2012 election, romney's aide said this is an etch a sketch moment. donald trump is the very essence of etch a sketch. i think pretty easy i can pivot to the nominee. >> thank you. great to get your insight. much more on the cnn democratic debate ahead. so let's get right to it. we should be thinking big, not small.
>> i spoke out against wall street. >> that was before or after you received huge sums of money. >> lying ted cruz is number three in the polls. and nobody even knows who number two is. >> if we lose our freedom here, where do we go? >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> yes, i am happy to be back in the studio for this all important home. so much for polite political discourse. the brawl in the burrow last night with hillary clinton and bernie sanders taking off the gloves, going for the kill shot. clinton slamming sanders for his stance on guns. but did anyone move the needle with the new york primary just
four days off? we'll hear from both campaigns? >>epublican side, events as well. donald trump, ted cruz, john kasich all speaking at a black tie. what did they say face-to-face? trump trying this morning in an op ed to grow his base with a provocative question. is the rigged system, as he calls it, working for you? we have the 2016 election covered only the way cnn can. let's begin with the man j.b. highlighting the debate. >> good morning, chris. this is what it looks like when two candidates are sick of each other. two they are trying to knock the other one off that stage. it was easily the biggest debate yet and easily the most perusing. >> you want contrast? >> i do question her judgment you want contentious? >> describing the be problem is
a lot easier than trying to solve it. >> you've got new york. from the start bernie sanders blasted hillary clinton judgment i question a judgment which voted for a war in iraq and i question her judgment about wanting packs. >> this is a phony attack that is designed to raise questions when there is no evidence or support to under gird the insinuations he is putting forward. >> nearly every sanders salvo met for a call on specifics, suggesting she is in the pockets of big banks. >> when millions last their jobs and their life savings the obvious response to that is that you got a bunch of fraught lent operators and they have to be broken up. and i introduced legislation to do that. now, secretary clinton was busy
giving speeches to goldman sachs for $225,000 a speech. >> we cannot come up with any example because there is no example. it's always important. it may be inconvenient, but it's always important to get the facts straight. i stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. i called them out on their mortgage behavior. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. was that before or after you received huge sum ises of money by giving speaking engagements? >> speeches hillary clinton still says she will not release the transcripts. >> set the same standard for everybody. when everybody does it, okay, i will do it. >> it brooklyn brawl ran some hot at times they had to be separated by the ref.
>> i'm sure people will be surprised to learn you voted to put minimum wage at $15 an hour. >> i have stood on stage eight prior times. >> senator, please. >> secretary, the viewers. >> let's do it. >> if you're both screaming at each other, viewers won't be able to hear either of you. >> i said from the very beginning i supported the fight for 15. i supported those on the front lines for -- it happens to be true. >> you say you wanted $12 an hour national minimum wage. >> and then contrition. clinton offering an apology for the 1994 crime bill her husband signed into law. >> i'm sorry for the consequences that were unintended and that have had a
very unfortunate impact on people's lives stphrfplt but sanders, when pushed with no apology for his positions on gun control. >> i don't believe it is appropriate that a gun shop owner who just sold a legal weapon to be held accountable and sued some including no apologies to victims of sandy hook. >> i don't think i owe them an apology. they have the right to sue. i support them and anyone else who wants the right to sue. >> this was a loud debate. a very loud outside questions. >> john, thanks so much. bernie sanders sounding off on gun control. our senior washington
correspondent jeff zeleny caught up with the democratic candidate after last night's fiery debate. >> my view is that i have a d minus voting record from the nra. i've supported the president on every major gun legislation and initiative that he has brought forth in terms of expanding instant pack grouped check, doing away with gun show lobby. we need to get guns out of the hands of people who should not have them. >> why not say you are holding out as senator of vermont you might have a different view. >> we have to do everything we can to get guns out -- it is easy to have a point of view which is not going to go anyplace. we have 50 states in this country. if we succeed and do more than give speeches, we have to create a con sepb is sus. and i believe there is a consensus which wants to make
certain we get guns out of the hands of the people who do not have them. but there are issues where we disagreed today. and i think the world has seen this. secretary clinton has a super pac. she has a 401 -- a pac, organization that raises money without allows disclosure. i don't think you're able to convince ordinary americans in new york or anyplace that you can stand up to those who are ripping us off. >> joining us now to discuss all of this is chief strategist for the hillary clinton campaign, joel benenson. before we get to talk about policy, which there was a lot of, let's talk about the tone. something seems to have shifted. as you remember, there was a defining moment in the debate. that seems to be long gone now.
the first democratic debate versus what happened last night. watch this. >> i think the secretary is right. that is that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> me too. me too. now, wait a minute. i have stood on on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times. i have said the same thing. if we can raise in new york, los angeles, seattle, let's do it. >> if you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of you. so please don't talk over each other. >> so what happened? >> the audience was raucous from the start. when you have two people on stage and the audience is shouting from the minute they come out there, and you run a microphone, you're going to have to talk loud enough to be heard. you may not realize how much your voice is being amplified.
since senator sanders came to new york he has been under intense spotlight. i'm a native new yorker. you get tested here. you get tested by a press corp that's very aggressive all the way through. he was exposed for not answering questions about issues core to his campaign. he has gotten increasingly negative. and he had to change the dynamic drammicly because of the pledge delegate lead that secretary clinton has. i don't think he did that last night. i think he went at her very hard. i think she responded in force. i think she responded very strongly on range of issues. particularly the ones he has been hitting her on over and over again. >> one she has been pressed on is when she will release the transcripts to wall street. she said something she has said all along, when somebody else does it, i will do it.
he says any speeches. >> berne where sanders may not have. he said last night something he said for a long time. he would release his tax return. >> he said he will release it today. >> we will see. he has been saying that for a long time. on the substance happens, he he has been part of the people calling to release the transcripts. he used this attack time after time. he was asked if he could name one vote, one action that showed she was favoring wall street in any way, he couldn't name anything. so it's time for him to stop the innuendo when he stood on a debate stage four days out and said he could not name a single time she had done anything that favored wall street. >> so since he doesn't have any speech transcripts to release, if he releases his tax returns today -- >> we'll wait and see if he
releases them. >> he says he is. >> he has been saying he is for how many months, alisyn? he said for months he would release his tax returns. >> today he he gave a deep certainty. >> we'll come back. if you want to come back next week after he releases them today, we'll see how many releases. he had one year. we're sitting here at cnn with a phi whose father set the precedent for people releasing their tax return. governor mario cuomo. i'm not saying that just to flatter your colleague here. >> but it worked. >> it did work. he he set the pattern for what has been the accepted practice for candidates for high office for decade. he was among the first to do it. there's a reason why candidates have didn't. it is open. it's honest. and it's the right thing to do. >> absolutely. >> hillary clinton's are posted on her website.
they are posted on the website. you could go right after you're done with the show today. >> the same will apply. the same theory applies to the transcripts. we will see what happens today. let me ask you about politifact said hillary clinton seems to be fudging the facts. >> i asked are you seriously blaming vermont. implicitity senator sanders for new york gun violence she said no. >> then why out that a statement, a statement refuted by the governor of the state of vermont who said, oh, yeah, in campaigns people tend to exaggerate. >> the fact are most of the guns that end up committing crimes in new york come from out of state. they come from the states that don't have the kind of serious efforts to control guns that we do in new york. >> okay. so is they come from out of
state. but they don't necessarily come from vermont. only 55 guns or 1% were traced to vermont. does she need to be more clear about that. >> she said the bigger issue about guns are on two fronts. one is that senator sanders seems to be very adamant about holding every corporation in america accountable, except for gun manufacturers. a vote the nra called their most important vote in 20 years. sit relevant because of what is going on in sandy hook and connecticut right now. he voted with them. the nra said this is our most important vote in 20 years s. he voted with them. she was against it on that. senator sanders touts the fact that in 1988 he ran for office. he said i lost because i stood up to the nra. but in his own book he described the fact that in 1990, and he said it, he won his election. because he agreed to oppose waiting periods for background
checks. imagine what we're talking about. we're talking about the charleston loophole, the mass murderer who got his gun because there was not a sufficient waiting period on a background check. he said he has a d minus rating. he has voted with the nra. hillary clinton has an f rating from the nra. right now given what is going on in this country with 30,000 gun deaths, there is a big difference between d minus f. >> thank you so much for coming into the studio. we'll talk again. over to chris. >> that's the democrat side. on the republican side, the front-runner making a couple of moves at a gala with ted cruz in the room, trump let loose on the texas senator for trashing new york values. and he asked a provocative question. could be a new slogan for his campaign. manu raju live in washington. i left you with the meaty part.
tell us what the provocative question is in this op ed this morning. some absolutely, chris. it's all about the delegates. new york primary is days away where 95 delegates are at stake. for now trump is employing a tactic he has been very successful at this campaign season. that is anger at the party establishment. this morning donald trump speaking out against the republican party in a new op ed in the wall street journal, appealing directly to americans about the voting system he believes is corrupt. asking how has the system been working for you and your family? airing grievances about how delegates are selected in the state of colorado. they were chosen on behalf of a presidential nominee, yet the people of colorado not able to cast their ballots to say which nominee they preferred.
while last night hundreds of protesters gathered outside a black tie gop fund-raising event in new york city. inside, all three remaining republican candidates sharing the stage. >> i love to speak here because i built this hotel. >> touting and using the platform to once again slam ted cruz's teak of new york values. >> the people in the towers who helped rescue each other, those are those of new york values. >> the new york crowd seemingly ignoring the texas senator during his speech. >> i will admit to you i haven't built any buildings in new york city, but i have spent my entire life fighting to defend the constitution and the bill of rights. >> governor john kasich wasting little time attacking cruz and trump else unpopularity among the american public, painting a grim picture of what is at stake in this election. >> do you know what will happen if we nominate people of high negatives and cannot beat
hillary? we will lose everything from the white house, to the courthouse, to the statehouse. >> scruff a few moments ago sean spicer released a memo arguing it is something the party left each state to decide. spice erred it is is up to the campaigns to be up to speed on the delegate rules. yesterday when i asked speaker paul ryan whether the process is fair, he said it is all up to the state. an answer yet to satisfy donald trump. chris. >> manu raju, thanks very much. when we come back, more on the blistering op ed. his top rival ted cruz. we have the main man for trump. campaign manager corey lewandowski next. firm, america's number one tempur-pedic retailer today.
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let me ask america a question. >> reporter: how has the system been working for you and your family? i for one am not interested in serving political parties at the expense of the people. a manifesto from the man at the top of the polls. a man running that campaign, corey lewandowski, joins us. glad to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> news comes out. palm beach county. not going to prosecute. >> i'm pleased. thanks to mr. trump and his loyalty to his staff because a lesser person, another politician would have terminated me on the spot. so i'm thankful for mr. trump and standing by me in that difficult time. i'm thankful to my colleagues and family. it should have never gotten to this point. i'm glad it's over.
i'm glad the district attorney's office has put this behind us. >> where is your level for the personal regret, putting yourself in the position, not giving fields the apologies that she would have accepted in the beginning? >> it was never reported but that night i called michelle fields. the interaction lasted about three seconds of my entire life. i had never met her before. three second may have sounded like a long time. it wasn't memorable to me. i'm sorry about that. after a read her boyfriend's twitter account, i made a phone call to michelle tom this day, i have never heard. she wanted to inject herself into making it a story. now i'm glad the story is over. >> she said she never heard from you. this apology thing would never happen. >> look. here's what i said. i have no reason to hate even. we want to bring everybody
together and move past this. we want to be successful as a party. you want to bring people together and focus our attention on winning the general election in november. that's what we want to do >> apologize or no? >> i reached out and provided my phone records to show that. never once at any time in this incident has she ever compact contacted the campaign directly. if she wanted to have a conversation can, she could have reached out to me or the office. that never took place. >> let's talk about the campaign now. this happening, this allegation created a little bit of drama in terms of are there going to be shakeups. probably coincidental that the changes came. let me ask you who is the man. >> donald trump is the man. a campaign is about growth. we cannot be successful if we don't grow. paul manafort a great well-respected operative with a proven record of going out and
delegate hunting and making sure we have the best political operation in place. that's paul's role. we need that role. i have been working with rick wiley weeks to bring him on board. he is now on the campaign. we will continue to make good quality hires so we are prepared not just for the rest of the primary season but beyond. because the administration of either hillary clinton or bernie sanders would be a disaster to this country. if we're not prepared to take them on, we can't be successful. we need to grow our team. it is continuing to be built out now. >> rick wiley, worked for mercury. fairly respected place out of d.c. . he was with scott walker. paul manafort is a different story. i know he worked the 1976 convention. but do you have any concern that there is a disconnect between you, trump, the campaign, saying we hate the system. the system is bad. the system is dirty. we won't defend it. and hiring someone with a past
like paul manafort you know the investigation is on the federal level. representing people in ukraine and elsewhere that are seen as bad people. how does that help make your campaign's point that you are going to be better than the status quo? >> look, what we need to do is unfortunately we have to work within the system. and i hate the system. we saw in colorado the establishment precluded a million people from voting. >> so now you are going to bring in a guy who is seen by many as representing the worst of the system? >> no, that's not the case at all. he is going to help grow our team. the first and foremost thing we need to do is get 1,237 delegates. paul has a proven record of getting that done. paul is someone who helps bring people together, bring them together to make sure first and foremost, you are going to be the nominee. bernie sanders sees it. we see it.
you have the establishment that are making rules that are good for the establishment candidates. the republicans never expected this. so now they are trying to find ways to prevent them from doing that. we will play within the rules of the system. people know what the rules are. they are not fair. people can go to the ballot box. if you live in the state of new york, colorado, go vote for the person that you want. that vote should count. whoever has the most votes, which donald trump has by millions, should be the nominee. >> you know every state makes its own rules. no state changed its rules because of donald trump. the idea that the system is rigged against donald trump is impossible to show. >> here's what we know. in states where they allow people to show up and vote on election day, primary day, donald trump dominates. >> if he says the system is rigged against me. >> it is rigged. >> he makes it sound like it is personal to him. >> here's what you have. if you want to be a delegate fort republican nominee, you have to start running 18 months
ago for delegates. that's before this campaign even started. there are states that do this. it is not for me to say. how much money given to the party? how active have you been in the republican party? the problem with that becomes the people are tired with the broken system, they haven't been giving money. >> i hear you on that. >> you need to fix it so the people have the right to be delegates. >> what happens? this winds up going to a convention one way or the other. say that happens. you get there. you now need the delegates who you have been trashing as part of this dirty system. how is that going to work where you have to go to the same people that you basically have been saying are dirty and trying to get them to help you. >> i think what you will find is come will the day of the convention trump will have more than of the 1237. he will be the republican nominee. we will unite the party by doing washington, d.c. outreach. >> is this helping by saying the
system stinks. what the party is doing stinks? >> it is right. americans who have day jobs every day who aren't focused on the rules of the party are frustrated. millions of people were denied their right to go to the bat local box. you could have had a primary, caucus, convention. the party says we're not going to do those things. you can stand up and become a potential delegate. >> the new york put out annen tkorplts. an interesting line in there. put up the endorsement language they had up there. basically they said we're endorsing trump because we believe when he gets to the general he will completely change. he will change his tone. he's not just going to pivot on his issues but also the manner. he needs to be more presidential, better informed and less thin-skinned.
do you think donald trump is capable of changing what he is and who he is. >> i don't think you want anybody to change who they are. you have seen the success of trump in his business and political career. he goes out and speaks his mind. that's what people want. they are tired of political correctness. ted cruz speaks in plattudes about this pie in the sky stuff. nothing has changed. that's the problem with our country. no one is looking to change donald trump. they are saying be more presidential. i don't agree with that. let trump be trump. when there is a problem, you talk about it. when it is radical islamic terrorism, you are not shy about saying those words. >> isn't it how you talk about it also? >> the american people are tough, smart, sophisticated. they know when we have a problem in this country. they see it. this notion that we can't say tough things to the american people is a fallacy. when you say we've got terrorists coming into our
country and killing american citizens in california and the president won't call it radical islamic terrorism, that's a shame. >> if you go to convention, if you don't like the way it comes out, if you think it was unfair, trump has suggested several times the pledge goes out the window. but a third-party run, michael bloomberg, he said i don't even think it is possible now. because the registration is in the system that you guys are decrying now. >> he's a gop front-runner by far. 2 million more votes than his next closest competitor. kasich is mathematically eliminated right now. he's going to run as the gop nominee. he's going to be the gop nominee. he is on together to get the 1237 delegates. ultimately party will unite because they should have one goal in mind. it is straightforward and similar.
put a republican in the white house. and if you look at the math, the only person that will have the opportunity to win states that mitt romney did not win is donald trump. they look like new york, florida, indiana, pennsylvania, massachusetts, places where donald trump has dominated in the early part of this campaign. and his broad support goes from vermont, massachusetts, sec, to the western part of the country, to the industrial belt. he is the only person to expand the map and win the general election. >> let's see what happens between now and when 1,237 comes to pass. thank you for coming on "new day". >> thanks for having me. >> appreciate it. who won new york fight night? hillary clinton and bernie sanders both scoring points. next we speak with jeff weaver.
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received huge sums of money by giving speaking engage thes? >> just one of the feisty moments last night. that was hillary clinton and bernie sanders facing off ahead of tuesday's primary. did sanders do enough to keep his momentum going? swroeupbg us is bernie sanders campaign manager jeff weaver. hi, jeff. >> good morning. >> so did last night move the needle? let me pull up the latest poll in new york. this is an nbc 4 wall street journal poll. and it shows hillary clinton far out ahead, 57% to 40%. that was obviously taken before the debate. what do you think changed last night? >> well, i think some of the polling is closer than we have seen in the public polling.
homage to baseball season. she shows she is a small ballplayer and sanders is a home run slugger. >> he is idealistic. she is more pragmatic. that's the way pundits are describing it. she said baby steps are more important than outlining big dreams that may nephew be accomplished. >> people can't afford college education, health care. we have a rigged economy. too late for baby steps. we need big changes in this country. >> as you and i speak, i believe bernie sanders is landing in rome. he accepted the invitation of the vatican to give a speech on the world economy. is now the time to be taking his foot off the gas in new york? >> something tran sends politics. he fought to create a moral
economy in this country secretary clinton has been leading new york state. i think it's better to take a day off to go to the vatican than to do that. >> bernie sanders said that he is going to release his tax return soon. when pressed he had maybe today. meaning this day, right now. is he going to release his 2014 tax return? >> yes. >> when? >> a little later today. >> they will be released today? >> absolutely. >> when do we see the other years? >> very soon. 2015, when they are done, it should be pretty soon. >> something they talk a lot about on the campaign trail is guns. hillary clinton has been criticizing his votes on the braid where bill as well as waiting periods. let me play one of those moments
for you. >> during the campaign, he made a commitment to the nra that he would be against waiting period. and in fact, in his own book, he talks about his 1990 campaign. is and here's what he said. here's what he said. he clearly was helped by the nra because they ran ads against his opponent. so then he went to the congress where he has been a largely very reliable supporter of the nra voting -- he kept his word to the nra. he voted against the brady bill five times. because it had waiting periods in it. >> so his policies obviously worked well for him in vermont. how does that affect him in new york? >> the truth of the matter is it's not really a real criticism. hillary clinton is all over the world on used to be for handgun licensing. then she attacked barack obama for being too tough on guns.
called him elitist. causing him to call her annie oakley. now she is more for gun safety legislation. i'm not sure where hillary clinton is. after this election, people won't know where she is. >> one more moment i want to play from last night. that is bernie sanders's position on israel. he seems to be taking a different position than democratic candidates have taken in the past. let me play this. >> israel was subjected to terrorist attacks, has every right in the world to destroy terrorism. but we had in the gaza area, not a very large area, some 10,000 civilians who were wounded and some 1,500 who were killed. now, if you're asking me not just me but countries all over the world, was that a
disproportionate attack, the answer is i believe it was. >> israel being disproportionate. how does that play in new york? >> bernie sand serious is not someone who panneders and plays. he is a consist person who holds views and expresses them when asked about them. a lot of politicians that go back and forth, bernie sanders will tell you what he thinks. >> ten seconds left. what's going to happen on tuesday? >> i think we're going to do very, very well. >> we will come close or go over the top. >> okay. jeff weaver, thanks so much. thank you for being on "new day" as always. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders clashing over the fight for 15. clinton says she argued for it over and over. so who is right? new york sister kreur stepb gillibrand joins us next. i have asthma...
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only with xfinity. the two democrats vying for their party's presidential nomination turned into a brawl at the cnn debate. hillary clinton and bernie sanders clark over a variety of key issues. senator, thank you for joining us on "new day". >> hi, chris. how are you? >> doing well. you are a big proponent of raising the minimum wage, a big part of the fight in new york state. hillary clinton and bernie sanders were clashing on this last night.
bernie sanders said i should be standing with cuomo and gillebrand for 15 bucks in new york state. i'm for it. not hillary. she wants $12. what's the truth? >> well, i think hillary supports 15 as well. what hillary tried to bring to the debate was a realism, how do we get from here to there. it's a long way to go. she was just citing a piece of legislation to get us there. i think she will sign $15 minimum wage. she was proud to stand with governor como who passed $15 here in new york. it was exciting. i thought the debate was fascinating. i like how she closed it out. i thought her notion that what she wants to fight for is ending barriers for people, whether it's barriers for women, the lgbt community or immigrants. she was trying to make the case about this is who we are as a nation. she will fight for the values
and get these things done. >> one of the barriers that came up last night was transparency. whether saopbders releasing his taxes or the speeches dogging her that she gave to financial institutions. if this were you and someone said release the speeches, would you release them and do you think hillary clinton would? >> i think she will. yes, i would. i post my taxes online. i was one of the first senators to do that. i like transparency and accountability. she wants to bring accountability into government, particularly on foreign policy and national security. last night you saw she was very, very lucid who we can create stability in the middle as well as how do we keep america safe. she cares about openness and transparency. i think she will release them at the appropriate time. >> she had she will do it when
everyone else does. is that standard disclosure? >> when i released mine as a congresswoman i was the first in congress to put up my financial disclosure and earmark requests. that was a new thing. i think we can all lead by example. it is always powerful. sunlight is the best disinfectant to all issues. the more we can do the better. i'm glad that bernie sanders is releasing his taxes. it has become a standard in new york state. that's a good thing. >> leaders lead. i've heard you say that before. we'll see what happens on that issue. i hear trains rumbling behind you. you're at penn station. why are you heading by train up to albany? what are you doing? >> i'm headed up to albany. as you know, chris, that's where i'm from. i did a big rally with hillary.
we have our state's rural conference. all the counties that are rural come together and talk about politics. the democratic rural conference is today and tomorrow. so i'm going to give a speech on behalf of hillary this afternoon. i'm really excited about it. i will tour through upstate all >> i never envy anyone who has to spend that time with the governor of new york. but no matter the personal court. let me ask you one thing. what we saw in the debate last night, your party is in its own existential crisis, moving in different directions. sanders represents one thing, clinton another to many voters. is it going to be tricky for this party to come together with two such different vision about what's being a democrat is all about? >> i think the party will come together strongly by the general election, but to be honest, chris, i think the differences between hillary and bernie are quite small.
very strong progressive candidates, differences on foreign policies and their five-point plans honestly they want the same things, that every child in this country has the opportunity to reach their god-given potential. the reason i support hillary so strongly is that's who she is what informs her. her whole upbringing by a mom who was disowned at 8, had to work by the time she was 14. taught her daughter never to give up, that we have to help one another. her mother only survived because of the kindness of strangers. when hillary talks about kind inside and working together and building even other up, it's how she was raised and who she is and it's no surprise to me her first job out of school is at the children's defensen fund and as secretary of state travel ared around the world caring about women and children and victims of rape and trying to rebuild communities. she and bernie are aligned on moral values and what this country of democracy was founded on, the notion we all do better
if we help one another, all things that certainly matter to new yorkers, and i think both hillary and bernie care deeply about. >> senator kirsten gillibrand, thank you for being on "new day." >> thanks, chris. >> alisyn? here's a very important story we've been reporting. this new video showing some of those 200 schoolgirls taken by boko haram are alive. now what is the government doing to bring them home? reporting you will only see on cnn, next. but since he can't... you rely on frontline plus. because frontline plus unleashes a deadly killing force to kills fleas and ticks, plus flea eggs and larvae, preventing a new flea infestation. its protection lasts a full 30 days. no wonder frontline plus is recommended by vets for killing fleas and ticks. after all, your dog is a lover not a fighter. frontline plus.
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reaction this morning from nigeria and here in the u.s. about those schoolgirls kidnapped by boko haram, comes as we learned exclusive reporting prompted the country's chief of security toy take action. live in abuja, niger ra with n. new frfrgs information from the government. what is that? >> reporter: mikaela, you and i talked yesterday how this video prompted a renewal of hope. that hope that given way to anger. the arrangements really incredulous that if the
government has known which we believe it has and admitted as much to us about this video and about this proof of life for the last three, four months, why weren't they told, and why isn't more being sdwrdone? the nigerian senate it working to get ahead of that public sentiment. tabled a motion passed unanimously by the senate, prompted, we're told, by the vice chair of the foreign affairs committee by our reporting to call in nigeria security agencies, the heads of nigeria security agencies and get a full brief on what is being done and what more should be being done. extraordinary it's taking this long to re-ignite that search, michaela and providing for the rebuilding of the school. again, it's taken two years. what we're hearing again and again from the families. we always believed these girls were alive. the government clearly new, or believed that evidence of them being alive was credible. why hadn't they done more before
now? michaela? >> also, any idea an the ongoing negotiations within the organization and with the organization to rescue the girls? what's the update on that? >> reporter: well, we understand from sources as recently as last week boko haram came back with a counter offer of $10 million for some of the girls you see in the video. the sticking point, boko haram lost territory, pipelines and revenue streams blocked off by this regional commission supported by the u.s. something we had reiterated by the white house press secretary. there's a lot of international support around the pushing back of boko haram, and that is paying off, but conversely, what it means is that boko haram know these girls are their own remaining garganing chip. so they're sectioning them out. i mean, it's horrifying to contemplate that. they're sectioning them out into groups and negotiating for each
individual group and the government has, we understand, just received their latest offer for the first of those girls, and it's going to be $1 million, michaela. >> heartbreaking for those parents waiting anxiously. thank you for your reporting. two minutes before the hour. following a whole lot of news. breaking down last night's democratic debate. so let's get to it. senator sanders called me unkfed. that was a first. >> do we really feel confident about a candidate so dependent on big money interests? >> i stood up against the behaviors of the banks. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. >> god bless the great state of new york. >> what are new york values? honesty anden straight-talking. >> i haven't built any buildings but i have spent my entire life fighting to defend the constitution. >> we risk losing everything. >> the establishment are making
rules that are good for the establishment candidates. >> you'll see what happens, because we've taken the vote away from great people. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. happy friday. >> you, too. >> happy friday. >> you, too. >> good morning. welcome to your postdebate edition of "new day." it is friday april 15th. 8:00 in the east. we begin with the brawl in brooklyn. bernie sanders, hillary clinton, battering each other like never before at last night's cnn democratic debate. clinton, challenging sanders on gun control and foreign affairs. sanders, questioning the former secretary of state's wall street ties, and fitness to lead. who came out on top? new yorkers make the final judgment when they head to the polls in just four days. >> so while the democrats debated, the republicans dined. donald trump, ted cruz and john kasich all attending a gop gago
wil. hundreds of protestors showing up. trump with a new op-ed posing one big question to voters. begin with the highlights of last night's fiery debate. hi, john. >> hello, alison. bright lights, big city, big debate. big, bruising debate. probably the most contentious yet with each candidate trying to land decisive blows. you want contrast? >> i do question her judgment. >> reporter: you want contentious? >> describing the problem is a lot easier than trying to solve it. >> reporter: you got brooklyn. a high-tension, high-drama debate befitting the high stakes of the moment. from the start, bernie sanders blasted hillary clinton's judgment. >> i question a judgment which voted for the war in iraq. and i question her judgment about running super pacs. >> this is a phony attack that is designed to raise questions when there is no evidence or support to undergird the
insinuations that he is putting forward in these attacks. >> thank you, secretary. >> reporter: but nearly every sanders salvo was met by a clinton call for specifics including his suggestion that she is in the pocket of big banks. >> when millions of people lost their jobs and their homes and their life savings, the obvious response to that is that you got a bunch of fraudulent operators, and that they have got to be broken up. that was my view way back and i introduced legislation to do that. now, secretary clinton was busy giving speeches to goldman sachs for $225,000. >> we cannot come up with any example because there is no example, and it's always important, it may be inconvenient but always important to get the facts straight. i stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. i called them out on their mortgage behavior.
>> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. and was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements? >> reporter: speeches for which hillary clinton still says she will not release the transcripts. >> let's set the same standard for everybody, when everybody does it, okay. i will do it. >> reporter: the brooklyn brawl ran so hot at times, the fighters needed to be separated by the ref. >> i am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> you know, wait a minute, wait, wait -- come on. i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times. >> excuse me. secretary -- >> secretary, senator, please fmplgts we can raise it to $15 in new york or los angeles -- >> please. >> secretary -- >> if you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of you.
>> i have said from the very beginning that i supported the fight for $15. i supported those on the front line of the fight for -- it happens to be true. >> well, i think the secretary has confused a lot of people. i don't know how you're there for the fight for $15 when you say you wanted $12 an hour national minimum wage. >> reporter: then decisions about contrition. clinton offering an apology of sorts for the 1994 crime bill her husband signed into law. >> i'm sorry for the consequences that were unintend and that have had a very unfortunate impact on people's lives. >> reporter: but sanders when pushed with no apology for his positions on gun control. >> i don't believe it is appropriate that a gun shop owner who just sold a legal weapon to be held accountable and be sued. >> reporter: including no apology to families of victims of sandy hook who have criticized his opposition to have lawsuits against some gun
sellers. >> i don't think i owe them an apology. they have the right to sue and i support them and anyone else who wants the right to sue. >> hillary clinton kept repeating a line last night showing the dividing line in the democratic party now. saying it's easy to diagnose a problem. it's harder to do something about the problem, and that's the division between dreaming and doing that you see, really, between sanders supporters and some clinton supporters. chris? >> j.b., sanders taking positions with things hillary clinton has and has not done last night as well. let's discuss the ramifications and repercussions what went down in brooklyn at the democratic debate. new york congressman and hillary clinton supporter representative elliott ingle and new york city council speaker also supporting clinton. melissa, mark vivirito. two clinton supporters, both justify what happened last night. first for you, congressman. released the transcripts.
that's bernie sanders is saying. if you don't have anything to hide, release transcripts. why hasn't she released them? >> probably the same reason he hasn't released his tux returax. hillary clinton is effective, gets things done, represents the heart of the democratic party. look, i served 16 years in the house with bernie sanders. he's a very nice guy, i like him a lot. when it comes to experience whshs when it comes to people you know will do foreign policy right we don't want someone with on the job training but a steady hand like hillary clinton. >> speaker, bernie sanders says he's releasing his taxes released them before and releasing some today, morenext week. what does that have to do with the speeches, secretary clinton said to me and other, i'll release them when everybody else does. don't leaders lead?
would you say, when everybody else does? >> a tactic of diversions and distractions. standard procedure in these kinds of race, release tax returns. the request to release speeches is something new that has not been requested in the past. i think that, again, it's a distraction, releasing of tax returns and nothing has happened, he said last night, might release one today. we'll see when she has released eight years fully online and transparent. that speaks to leadership. so that's what this is about. about a proven track record as the congressman said. she was our senator here in new york, and delivered at a time we really needed her to deliver. one, post-9/11, obviously and also on immigration reform, where she stood wh our communities when sanders did not. so there's very clear, a record of distinction that the senator has. we know her. she's not new to us, not learning us, doesn't have a learning curve when she goes into the white house and why she will win new york state on tuesday. >> is bernie sanders right to say, i should have been satandig
next to cuomo and everybody else celebrating $15 an hour. this is my issue. hillary clinton's for $12, not $15. >> she does not waver. has stood in california with the workers, proven herself in standing with us here in new york state. she supports the state's efforts to go to $15 and has said she will support federally $12 an hour, but as a step. we're steppg it up here in new york state, and so she's saying, let's do $12, and any state that wants to raise it further i will support them and has demonstrated that consistently. >> might assay that's a semantical argument. hillary for $15, tactic in some stays go to $12, then raise to $15. >> that's sanders argument. incremental change, not enough. $15, i heard both of you argue, isn't enough either if you do the math ofs 15 d$15 times 40,
enough to live on, that's the best being prose posed, sanderso bigger. do what matters. >> you need support of the congress to get there. you need to be able to build a coalition that is bipartisan to get there. what hillary clinton is talking about, being pragmatic as well in a situation that, yes, aspirationally we want to get to $15 and beyond. how do we get there? i think that is really what sets her apart and why i support her strongly. >> the point you were trying to make, it's a semantic argument because, why? it's a step from one to the other as opposed to different conceptionally? >> el well, sometimes, can you go from $7 or $8 right to $15? i don't know. some places you can't. incrementally work your way up to $15, maybe you have to stop ats 12ds. it's silly. she's for $15, for it in new york city and in states that want it and to imply that because she believes in some states you need a stepping-stone to get to $15 from, $12, attack
her for it is silly and what the sanders campaign is doing. no one can question hillary the commitment on these various social issues. she was our senator eight year, effective. re-elected and re-elected with a great majority, and she's a person that has the experience. now, he is trying to make it sound like, if you have experience, somehow or other you've sold out. i mean, there is a system there and you have to work in the system. i go to washington, i'm not happy republicans control the house and senate. >> people hate the system. want you to fight the system. >> we fight the system and hopefully will have president hillary clinton and a democratic majority in both the senate and the house. i think that's possible and then we'll change a lot of things and do a lot of good things, but to pretend you can do things while republicans control both chambers is just not true. hillary was known as one of the most effective senators in washington. the new york delegation is wholeheartedly supporting her.
i believe every democrat representing new york is supporting her for president. what does that tell you? that tells you when she was senator he worked closely with us and we know how effective she is. >> congressman, speaker, thank you very much for making the case for hillary clinton. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. so donald trump's campaign manager corey lewendowski was on the show talking about a controversy that directly involved him saying i did try to call the bright reporter michelle fields after that run-in at a trump rally last month, but claims she did not respond. watch. >> first and foremost i want to thank mr. trump for his loyalty and his dedication to his staff and to me specifically, because a lesser person and another politician would have terminated me on the spot. i'm thankful for mr. trump and his loyalty to me, standing by me during a difficult time and thankful for my colleagues and family that went through this. i'm glad this was put behind us
and we're ready to move forward now. >> where is your level of personal regret for the fact this happened in the first place? putting yourself in the position, not giving fields the apology she would have accepted in the beginning and made it all go away? how much is on you? >> that night, never reported i called michelle fields. i didn't know what happened. it lasts three seconds in my entire life. never met her before'sthe only time i've interacted is on that videotape. three seconds may sound like a long time but a brief interaction, wasn't memorable to me. sorry about that. i read her boyfriend's account i made a phone call to michelle and never heard back and to this day never heard back from michelle. it isn't we didn't try to reach out and get to the bottom, she wanted to inject herself into making it a story and now i'm glad the story's over. >> she says never heard from you, this apology thing never happened. will she hear from you again? >> i have no reason to hate anybody and i want to bring everybody together and move past
this. if we want to be successful as a party, and be donald trump as a campaign we want to bring people together and focus our attention on waning the gener winning the in november. >> apology or not? >> again, i reached out to michelle, provided phone records to show that and never once in any incident has she contacted the campaign directly. that's the disappointing part. if she wanted to have a conversation she could have reached out to me directly or the office. that never took place. >> the "new york post" put out an endorsement, interesting language. put it up there. basically said we're endorsing trump because -- we believe that when he gets the general he's going completely change. he's going to change his tone and not just pivot on issues also in his manner. needs to are more presidential, better informed on policy, more zef thick skinned. is donald trump capable of
changing what and who he is? >> i don't think you want anybody to change who they are. the success of donald trump in his business career, the political realm, never a part of, because he goes out and speaks his mind. that's what people want. they're tired of the political correctness. ted cruz speaks in platitudes all day long. washington pie in the sky stuff, his entire career, with the bush administration or now, nothing's changed. that's the problem with the country. no one is looking to change donald trump, saying be more presidential. i don't agree. let trump be trump. when there's a problem, you talk about it. when it's radical islamic terrorism you're not shy about saying those words. >> how you talk about it, also? >> look, the american people are tough, smart, sophisticated. they know when we have a problem in the country, see it. the notion we can't say tough things to the american people, that donald trump can't point out these problems is a fallacy. terrorists coming into our country and killing americans in
california, the president won't call it islamic terrorism, that's a shame. the american people can take that. time to put our country first. that's what donald trump is going to do interesting. i have never seen an endorsement like the one the "new york post" did today. endorsing him because we believe he will completely change. >> saying you need to pivot, change your method and mode and suggestions how to do that. unconventional. >> yet endorse him. interesting. >> too bad they couldn't just find that person. >> stay on the topic of donald trump attacking the system he says is rigged and stacked against him. in a "wall street journal" op-ed, we're going to talk to a trump national co-chair, next. if you misplace your discover card,
donald trump writing a new op-ed for the "wall street journal." again, blasting the delegate selection process and his chief rival. trump writes -- let me ask america a question. how has the system been working for you and your family? i, for one, am not interested in defending a system that for decades has served the interests of political parties at the expense of the people. here this morning to talk about this and more is trump's national campaign co-chair and policy adviser sam clovis. good morning, sam. >> good morning, alisyn. how are you today? >> doing very well. let me read a little more from this "wall street journal" op-ed that mr. trump has written.
he has a lot of interesting points in here, one of them is just as i have said i will reform our unfair trade immigration and economic policies, they have also been rigged against americans, so, too, will i work closely with the chairman of the republican national committee and top gop officials to reform our election policies. so, sam, as we know he's been very disgusted with the rnc, called the process disgusting and dirty.priebus should be ashamed of the process. how is he going to work closely with these officials? >> what's happened over the course of this campaign cycle, like no other in american history, i think beav seen a lot of the warts and blemishes that come with the particular system that we have right now. right now we have 50 independent states and six territories that essentially determine how they want to go about selecting if they want to have a presidential primary or caucus, and i think what's happened is you see what happens when you have an
expanded schedule like this, when you don't have the ability to let the people have their say, and i think this is really coming back, and i think there are going to be a lot of adjustments after this campaign cyc cycle particularly in the republican party. have a hard look at how we do business, who goes first. what being first means, and whether or not we can find a way to save some money along the way and also at the same time a much more deliberate and intentional's method of selecteding our nominee. >> well, reince priebus was on another morning show today and said basically donald trump doesn't really understand the process. it's not the rnc that sets the rules. let me play for you what reince priebus said. >> it was the same system that elected abraham lincoln. pr pretty much the same system that democrats use. delegates and voters choose the nominee. the rnc doesn't write these rules. the states do, and each state -- the system can be changed but it
has to be changed at the convention, if people want to change it with the delegates. that's how our rules are written. i don't write the rules for the republican party. the delegates at the convention write the rules for the republican party. >> okay. he's basically saying it's not the rnc. it's the people. does donald trump get it? >> well, yeah, he gets it. that's what i've said. i think i said that earlier, that this is the whole process we've seen in place right now, and i hate to disagree with reince on any issue. he's doing a good job given what he's got to do and i think he's led the party extremely well over a very tumultuous time and has a tougher tank ahead of him, but this system was not in place when lincoln was elected. this system is relatively new and we see more and more presidential primaries come forward, we see the caucuses here and it is set by the rnc. the rnc establishes particular rules but the states are essentially given free rein to
conduct their primary process any way they see fit and this, again, goes to the notion that perhaps we need to have a better accountability. we need to have a better opportunity, better opportunities here and we need to save some money. my god. i mean, how much money have we been spending out here on this process? why do we not have regional primaries? why do we not have the processes in place if we have carveouts, early states, there's a particular method and system in place to have a chance to select our nominee and let the people have the right to do that, rather than party insiders. that's essentially what's been going on in many of the states. >> another interesting piece of publication came out this morning and it's the "new york post" endorse be donald trump. let me read to you a portion of this endorsement. they say, should he win the nomination we expect trump to pivot not just on the issues but in his manner. the postpivot trump need more
self-disciplined and less thin skinned. is that possible, sam? >> well, i think i just saw my boss, corey lo lewendowski sayi let mr. trump be mr. trump. >> the "post" is saying trump has to be something different? >> the "post" is one paper and the american people are relatively happy what they see in mr. trump and we have a process in place and have to let the process play out and we have -- two things we say in the campaign. let mr. trump be mr. trump and for the rest of us, do your job. i'm doing my job. corey's doing his job. mr. trump's doing his job. >> you don't see mr. trump changing his tone or his sort of manner after whatever happens at the convention? >> well, let me see. how many more votes that he's received over ted cruz? i think maybe 2.5 million? i think perhaps we have a
delegate lead in this process. we're probably going to -- you know, in the next three or four weeks scarf up a whole bunch more and i think it's really up to the american people to determine what they want, and not what the pundits and the donor class and establishment and everybody else wants. there's a particular template. i remember the first interview i gave anderson cooper, you tr a template trying to fit into that template. mr. trump will not ever fit into that template and the american people are craving the kind of leadership donald trump can provide and that's where this process is leading. >> i'm sure anderson cooper said we do in the have a particular template but enjoy asking you all of the tough questions, sam clovis, thanks so much for being on. >> and alisyn, you look great today. just got to say it. >> you, too, sam. thanks so much. >> oh, boy. >> see ya later. let's get over to michaela. >> you should hear him over here. jealous because you've getting a
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hears arguments on a challenge by texas and 25 other states to president obama's executive action on immigration. the states have thus far successfully blocked the president's plan from being implemented, and all eyes will be on the high court with its current roster of only eight justices. so joining us now is texas attorney general ken paxton, leading the charge in this case. mr. paxton, thanks for being here. >> great to be here. thanks for having me on. >> you're leading these 26 states. >> violated the constitution that his job is enforce the law under article 3 section 2 of the constitution and congress' duty to pass lawed. he said he didn't have the ability to change the law, not a king, up to congress to change law and then in november of 2014 he came out and said i'm thing that r changing the law. >> correct me if i'm wrong. part of what you're fighting is the president's plan to give 500,000 illegal immigrants
drivers' licenses in texas. saying it would hurt your state and cost money. how? >> texas has a two-year legislative cycle and they budget for everything. drivers' licenses, this new executive action increase the drivers' licenses costs issued in texas. not accounted for in our budget. 2340 o no one voted for it. it's not accounted for in our budget. >> but president obama, his plan would also give undocumented workers work permits and thereby would make them pay taxes. so people who are currently working in texas and not paying taxes and sending money back to mexico would have to pay taxes to texas, and wouldn't that bring in millions of dollars? >> this issue isn't really about immigration policy for us. it's really about the process of following the constitution. we feel like congress has a duty to basically make law, and that the president's job to enforce the law. he can't come out and just change the law. obviously, think about this. we have 26 states involved in
this lawsuit. it's remarkable and unprecedented that this many states agree on that issue. >> you're embroiled in your own legal issues, indicted on state security the fraud charges, then this beak federal regulators accuses of misleading investors in a technology company. how will that affect this? >> i don't think it will affect this. we have a chance of being successful in the supreme court, despite what's going on with you personally. >> absolutely. >> you have not endorsed anybody in this presidential race, though, of course, the senator from texas, ted cruz, is running. why not endorse him? >> i'm a huge ted supporter. i am supporting ted cruz. i will say this, though. i'm still going toed by donald trump tries? >> both ways? >> supporting ted cruz for president. >> endorsing ted cruz. >> absolutely. >> what do you like about donald trump? >> i love them. wearing them for years.
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it is friday. here's your friday edition of the five things to know for your "new day." bernie sanders, hillary clinton brawling in brooklyn. the candidates tangling on trade, gun control and foreign policy, and a fiery cnn debate. four days out from the new york primary. meanwhile, donald trump's war wit gop intensifying. trump slams ted cruz and the republican party delegate rules in the new op-ed. and search crews continuing to look for survives of an earthquake in southern china killing at least nine and injured nearly 800 others. inma physical charles manson family member is recommended for parole. officials say leslie van houten is a model prisoner and apologized for the notorious murder of a couple in 1969.
somber day today. marking three years since the boston marathon bombings. the city's mayor calling for a moment's silence at 2:49 p.m. when the first of two bombs detonated. three people were killed. more than 260 wounded in those attacks. this year's marathon takes place on monday. more on the five things to know, newdaycnn.com. republicans took their fight to late night. jimmy fallon's guest, ted cruz, but donald trump tried to steal the show. here are your late-night laughs. >> hello? >> congratulations. you've just been called by donald trump. >> oh, hello, donald. what a pleasant surprise. >> are you watching the democratic debate? >> nope. i'm watching t ing "the princes bride." >> inconceivable. just missed great stuff.
hillary flip-flopping, this way, that way, like watching her swipe a metro card at the subway. >> okay, donald, well, you know, i've got to run now. >> wait, wait. look, i know we're about to be a guest on "the tonight show," i've been on that show many times so i thought i'd help you out and do a little pre-interview. >> that's a very generous offer, donald. i appreciate you being the bigger man. >> oh, i'm the bigger man. with the bigger hands. >> tell you, i never got the whole big hand thing. >> wow. you're delirious at this point. >> up way too late. >> who's the best trump? fallon or darrell hammond? >> i like darrell hammond. >> that was funny but i like darrell hammond. >> making his life's work. >> embodies him. >> the material, impression or
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this is a chance for them to act on it, and we have a man right now who says they are getting it wrong. the founder and ceo of iraq and afghanistan veterans of america, paul reikoff. good to have you here. >> good to see you, man. >> this bill is pitched as, low voices in congress. no, no, no. we're going to take money that we don't need, right? in this program that takes money that veterans don't use and they used to give to their dependents, they don't need that. we're going to take that money and do what they need to have done. this is good for veterans. you started jumping up and down saying, don't let them do this. why? >> because that's spin. this is a whole new level of stupid in congress. what they're doing is cutting the new g.i. bill for the first time in history. our organization and members nationwide in 2008 fought hard to create the post-9/11 g.i. bill. it sent over 1 million vets to college. all right? people who served in iraq and
afghanistan served nobly are coming home, doing well, going to college. congress wants to save money cutting the g.i. bill. not a voice vote. we hope all americans stand up and say, no. the g.i. bim is off limits. not a biggy bank to save dollars and cents. find money elsewhere. ask americans to have a bake sale they would do it for the veterans. people are dying and fighting right now in iraq and afghanistan we should not cut the g.i. bill it's garbage. >> we made phone calls. people are saying we shouldn't be doing this, a tricky time. trying to get a budget done. it's very tricky. one case was made, though, that, what do you say to these moms who are vets and moms of spouses of vets who say, well, they want to use this money for something else. they want to have access to that. what do you say to that jargt th argument? >> you don't rob peter to pay paul. that's a washington game.
you ask widows to compete against kids. right? that's a washington insider game they've tried for years. we're not going to let them rob peter to pay paul. all veterans are united on this. the g.i. bill works. the best investment our taxpayers have ever had and all presidential candidates need to stand up, too. not a single one made a statement. >> have you gone to them? >> we have. on twitter, talking to you, every presidential candidate in america should say don't cut the g.i. bill. >> none of the candidates responded? >> not publicly on this issue specifically. also calling or the chairman of the senate veterans affairs committee, they all need to stand up today and say they will not support cuts to the g.i. bill now or ever. >> how often have you found that the promise to support the troops falls short? >> how many times have you covered it on cnn? right the last decade you've been covering it. suicide issues unemployment, v.a. scandal, goes on and on. politicians in washington and now on the campaign trail say they support the veterans.
whut it comes down to it many are awol. we need them to step up and if they want, we need people to organize, pressure them in a time of war. impact it's morale, recruiting. our members are in iraq and afghanistan hearing that congress is cutting their g.i.b. b bill. what message is that sending? it might unite candidates in a campaign season. >> they say that, when there are big meeting of our leaders, bring veterans there'sespecially those who have paid the price in an extreme way and everybody stands. everybody's joined. we all support the troop, but then what happens? >> we make good window dressing. right? veterans are very popular. we've had a saying a long time. babies, puppies and vets. on the political campaign trail, babies, puppies, vets, home run. pandering line. i support veterans, i'm going to clean up v.a. like saying i'm going to clean up washington. everybody says it, sounds great,
getting it done is hard. but not harder than being in combat. in combat you should know you come home your g.i. benefits are there for your spouses and kids. >> 450,000-plus you represent now? >> yes, sir. >> what's the bracelet? >> this is for awareness, folks can see it online. also take action. you can buy gear, obviously this is run by a veteran owned small business called oscar mike. a paralyzed veteran. >> on the move? o.m. >> military parlance for on the move. we are that. on the move. not victims or charity. rear leaders, take the lead now starts with education. >> supports the veterans? i'm in. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you very much for being with us. we make awe promise and ask each of the campaigns to respond to this issue and get it done next week. >> what we need. thank you, sir. >> alisyn. the bravely of a former boston police officer forced to retire after the boston marathon bombings.
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today we mark a somber anniversary. three years since the boston marathon bombings. the explosions, of course, changed boston and its people, among them transit cop dick donohue, involved in the shoot-out that stopped the tsarnaev brother, but he nearly plo lost his own life in the process. speaking with him about going beyond the call of duty. listen to this. >> reporter: the boston marathon finish line signifies a new start for dick donohue. >> pride and perseverance. >> reporter: each day and opportunity for a man by all medical standards shouldn't be alive. >> i bled out, lost something like over the 90% of the blood in my body. >> reporter: it was the early morning of april 19, 2013. just days after these explosions changed the city. >> i partnered up with another
transit police officer and we began the hunt and eventually heard a call for assistance from watertown police officers. happened to be a couple miles away in cambridge and went to their assistance. >> reporter: out of his jurisdiction and learned his classmate had been killed. that didn't stop donohue from responding. though what happened next, he says, is a blur. >> i remember it being on-scene just briefly, and the next thing i remember is, really, kind of -- waking up and just this incredible fight inside me and there i am at the hospital. >> reporter: where doctors told him he had been in a massive shoot-out with the tsarnaev brothers who carried out the bombings. the d.a.'s report says probably shot by another officer. >> i sustained a gunshot wound to my right leg severed the right femoral artery and over 40 minutes of cpr, 46 blood products and six to eight hours of surgery.
>> reporter: if they hadn't gotten you to the hospital fast enough, would you even be here? >> i would not. >> reporter: he spent two months in the hospital in cambridge determined to relab and heal. nearly two years later. >> this is what i close to do. >> reporter: he put his uniform bag on. the transit officer promoted to sergeant, but injures took the toll. >> in pain all the time. >> reporter: makes it hard to do your job. >> it does. one step slower. i wouldn't want to put anybody's life or safety in danger. >> reporter: he's since retired. >> i can't look at the past with bitterness, and regret. i can only move forward. >> reporter: that means embracing each day with his family. his 3-year-old son and a second son due on the anniversary of when he almost lost his life. for cnn, boston. >> my gosh. what a hero. >> hmm. >> what a story, what a tale and a baby they're expecting now. so great. >> that is great. >> magical. >> beautiful example of boston strong. >> absolutely. all right. that's it for us on "new day"
this week. time for "newsroom" with carol costello. it's her favorite day. >> it is. >> here it is. give us the stock line. >> happy friday, all of you. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> "newsroom" starts now. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. the gloves come after and the democrats throw down. >> you know, wait a minute, wait a minute. >> that's just not accurate. >> wait. i have stood on the debate stage. >> well -- >> anger and resentment boil over at the cnn debate. remember the is a civility and graciousness of earlier showdowns? trampled under foot and hillary clinton and bernie sanders race towards two state all-important primary in new york. bitter accusations over integrity, gun vileans and even the minimum wage and a flurry of punches in a fight never expected to reason these final rounds. cnn commentators and guests here to break it down. begin with john berman who had a