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this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of from the united states and around the world. we have a terrific show starting with an all star panel to take you on a tour of the world. from the united kingdom to the kingdom of saudi arabia. both stops on the overseas strip next week. from putin's power plays in russia to an imploding brazil. also, here's a new york value that ted cruz would probably
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hate. government sanctioned heroin highs. the nation's highest ranking muslim ever to serve in dublin. what does he have to say about the anti islamic rhetoric on the campaign trail? >> i think islam hates us. >> and what makes some teams winners and others losers? i'm not talking about baseball or football but business. google has spent the last four years trying to figure out the answer to this question. it will surprise you. but first, here's my take. having recently discovered how the nomination process works in the republican party, donald trump is furious. >> if they wanted to keep people
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out, these are dirty tricksters. in fact, mr. trump is right on the first and wrong on the second. political parties do have mechanisms to keep people out. far from being a trick, they are the crocks of what makes parties valuable in a democracy. political scientist begins his classic, parties and politics in america with this declaration. no america without democracy. no democracy without politics and no politics without parties. in a larger country in order to get things done, people need some devices to navigate the political interest and channel interests and ideologies and negotiate with others with differing interests and views. traditional parties have played this role in the united states. they have often played it as a counter weight to the momentary passions of the public. at the heart of the american
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political party is the selection of the presidential candidate. this process use to be the controlling party elites. in the early 20th century, an additional mechanism was added to test the viability on the campaign trail. primaries, still, between 1912 and 1968, the man who won a party's presidential primaries became the nominee less than half the time. dwight eisenhower was not chosen by primary voters but in a complex tested convention. 1968 was the year things changed. the radicalism that swept the democratic party also casts aside its rules for favoring nominees favoring direct primaries over all else. the republicans copied the democrats and soon the parties ended up with the system we have today. the result of these changes has been to hollow without political parties turning them into empty vessels for the most successful
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political entrepreneur of the moment. in describing these trends in 2003, i wrote without strong parties, all you needed to run for president was name recognition and a fundraising machine. i predicted that the partiless system would be good for political sign -- political dynasties. what is the harm of this new open snm we can see it now, a party without internal strength and capacity cannot shape the political agenda and said it simply reflects and amplifies the noisiest popular passions. the old system steered toward moderation because it was run mostly by local and state officials who won general elections and had to govern. today delegates are chosen by primary voters. a much stronger, narrower and extreme slice of the country.
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it's ironic the old smoke filled rooms were more representative of the general voter than the open primaries of today. the old parties drew their strength from neighborhood organizations, churches, union and local business groups. the new parties are roladex's of national parties. these professionals are more extreme and less practical. they seem to turn large diverse parties into idea logical battleships. the old system is almost dead. in the current race they're trying to revive themselves one last time to save the party from a demagogue. this is not a result of democracy. the people vote in november and that vote is final. meanwhile, we have an effort by one of the core institutions by american politics to shape the choices facing voters in the
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november election. sometimes to strengthen democracy, you have to restrain it. for more, go to and read my washington post column this week. let's get started. >> 2016 is the year in which president obama has to put the finishing touches on his legacy both foreign and domestic. on the foreign side he's expected to hop on air force one and travel all over the world this year. last month's trip was just a warm up. on tuesday, he'll take off of said rab i can't, the u.k. and germany to talk about the greeting he'll receive at all these stops and more, let me bring in my panel. he's a contributing writer at the new york times magazine. brett stevens is the columnist
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at the wall street journal. first stop, saudi arabia, there are a lot of people who look at saudi arabia these days and feel oil has plummeted. it's highly unstable and finally, after many prognostications are proven wrong, saudi arabia is on the verge of collapse. >> this is not going to be a good stop because both leaderships have expressed their discontent and disgust with the other. not a fun meeting. no reason to believe the saudi regime is in any danger of collapse. it's proven the skeptics wrong. it's still a strong u.s. allie. maybe not a loved positive relationship but there's enough common interest to keep the relationship together and cooperation going whether
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there's an intelligence cooperation or against iran, isis or circumstancisad. i don't know why the president came out so explicitly with so much time left and expressed his distake for so many allies. >> it's odd he's revealing stuff you kind of want him to wait for his memoirs to do. >> he has to be careful this isn't a replay of jimmy carter visiting the shaw. >> you think it has the danger? >> i think persistent low oil prices, the fact that isis could be looking to expand into saudi arabia. a bad war with yemen. there's a lot of factors. particularly if this trio of leaders doesn't work out. >> i think the point you would make is they're more stable than you think because they have huge reserves that can borrow money
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forever. >> internal legitimacy, they have good financial situation. they have strong control over their territory. let's be honest. there's not a lot of strong in the east. that's why the united states is trying to be on descent terms with both of them. their balances games have to be played. it makes no sense of screwing up your relationship with the few countries that's functional. >> then he gets to britain which seemed functional for the last few centurys and appears to be, scotland was trying to leave and now you have -- how serious, i don't think most people outside britain realize this is serious. they could leave europe. >> it's almost impossible. it's almost 50/50 in the yards now. david cameron was leading the europe campaign. the prime minister is not quiet the man. his father was one of those with
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a panama trust fund. he has got in trouble over that. the timing is deliberate. a few weeks before the referend referendum, he was very popular in britain. he gets the approval ratings there. cameron doesn't. the use that obama can play for cameron is that those in favor of britain leaving europe of the strongest transit, their argument is america will simply replace europe and we're going to free trade and it will all be a well that will work out far better and obama's in the hopes of david cameron going to say that's not going to happen. you're not going to get an fta or this sudden magical -- your value to us as an allie is proportionate to your influence with europe. if you leave europe you're going
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to squau squauner that. whether he'll say that in public, there will be a lot of people as far as johnson and the mayor of london waiting the pounce if he gets too political and crosses too political of a line. >> does all this european instability and the migrant crisis help the man you study so carefully? >> i think it absolutely does. i think if you look at the freedom report that came out about democracy and democratic rights declining sharply and eastern europe. he's been trying hard with the channels and other subversive means to drive wedges between the u.s. and the european allies
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and i'm trying to fragment it. that's a classic russian game to fragment europe to work in those divides. >> one of the most likely outcomes and one of the reasons our ballots oppose it, that would mean he would leave britain and join europe. you do want, there are great advantages to a united king doll. by the way, for the united states we want a strong britain. it still remains our central bill lar in europe. an england that's increasing politics, i don't think it's a game for british or european. >> we've got to leave out. >> next on gps, julia just mentioned a study that says
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politicians taking add haven't only of it. do you think the situation is as severe as the report points out? >> i wouldn't say it's weakening democracy. i would say it's weakening liberalism. poland is the new government there which is a right wing catholic government which is gutting the court there and packing it politically. democracy, i don't think, as in -- >> they're all -- >> hungary is another example. >> i think it raises issues about europe and what it means to be a german, frenchman, europe, brit. i spent time in germany and talking with germans around the camps and they said 20 years from now when these people get papers they'll never be germans
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and we don't know their kids will be germans. this is a country that's been most open to the refugees. it gets to the idea of german identity and not a productive environment but it is still an environment that's open to the world and has to take it and absorb these people and can't. >> i think this is part of the poison of low growth. germany took in huge growth during the boom years of the post war and was able to absorb them and able to absorb them into a growing 4% growth economy. when you have decades of stagnation, that's going to magnify all the normal problems associated with any kind of integration. >> i agree with brett which is it's more a symptom than a cause. there's a lot of anger out there, a lot of dissatisfaction and looking for a target.
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then you have pop ewe list politicians that come along. immigration was declining in the u.s. and trump was able to make a big kedeal of it. >> they have to be different in some ways and become a target too. >> quickly, we're going to talk about one thing. is the world economy going to blow up because the great super star brazil seems on the verge of collapse. the president is about to be impeached or an approval rating under 10%, what happens. >> brazil, i don't think if they go, i don't think it's a particularly strong replace lt, the the vice president. i don't think you're going to see a dramatic change. the question is how do you get brazil back on the track with a structural form and powering an emerging market by the current vice president is not the answer to that question. i don't think it will destroy
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the world economy overall. >> this is all part of this world of declining oil prices. >> brazil is the country of the future and always will be. brazil is a skill of commodity. they have all kinds. >> what happens to russia in a world of low oil prices there's a russian phenomenon. so every poll shows that russians distrust and dislike the police, the courts, the schools, the bureaucrats, the foreign ministry, defense
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ministry. the one person they continuely like is putin. on corruption, they say if it weren't for putin, it would be worse. for brazil, that's happening is a sign of health. everybody just slugs their shoulders and says that's just how it is, that's russia or if i were in their place i would do the same. the courts are going after the peop trying to fight russia. >> what do people think about the american public race now? >> they're sickly gripped by it.
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trump has a golf course. he feels the people despise him than if it appeared nonbritish. >> that is so british. thank you all very much. in resent years in america, 34,000 people are killed by guns. another 34,000 are killed by traffic accidents but a stunning 46,000 were killed by drug overdoses in 2013. when we come back, global and local essence about what to do about hell. of flight combinations to make getting here easy. because the hardest part of any trip, should be leaving. expedia. technology connecting you to what matters.
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now for what in the world segment. >> senator cruz, you suggest trump invokes new york values. can you explain that? >> i think most know what new york values are. >> presidential hopeful ted cruz has made it clear he's not a fan of new york values even as the
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republican primary comes to the empire state this week. cruz might be more apauled by new york after hearing this story. the mayor, 29-year-old, wants to allow his residence to legally shoot heroine. under the mayor's proposal, drug users in his quiet up state town could walk into an injection center and get high. there is a powerful purse here. keeping heroine addicts alive with medically supervised highs. heroine abuse is a nationwide epidemic according to the cdc. fatal overdoses quadrupled in 2016. in fact, drug overdozes killed
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over 26,000 americans in 2013. that'sviolence, motor vehicle accidents and suicide. heroine is a big proportion of those overdoses. a state legislature called the proposal asinine according to the new york times. many feared that such a facility would only encourage more drug abuse. similar programs have been up and running in several of the countries for years and have achieved some remarkable success. vancouver, canada has been home to the incite facility since 2003. the first legally supervised injection site. every day hundreds of addicts use injection boots with access to clean syringes overseen by nurses. treatment and other things are available on site. the result of the effort has been impressive. fatal drug overdoses in the
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neighborhood around plummeted 35% compared to just 9% in other parts of the city according to the british columbia center in hiv aids. not one fatal overdose occurs itself. those using the injection were 30% more likely to enter rehab. the site also saves taxpayer dollars by preventing expensive medical procedures for the addicts it treats. inside has been proven to save lives with no disearnable negative impact on the public safety and health objectives of canada before declared. world wide, there are more than 90 supervised injection sites mostly in europe. the first opened in 1986 in switzerland where there are now
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22 facilities that give heroine to addicts with the hope of treating them. if that sounds crazy, consider this. opioid related deaths dropped in switzerland. if the united states would have cut them that much in 2013 alone, over 5000 lives would have been saved. it's new york values that aren't so bad overall. next on gps, you can stock up management books from here to the moon and they'll all tell you how to put together a great team for business. google spent years studying the subject and they say the answer lies in one word, safety. i'll explain when we come back. stop... clicking around and start saving at book direct... and get the lowest price online
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google has had an interview process, if you don't believe
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me, google google interview questions and try them. does putting together abunch of brainy types who score well on those tests necessarily equal success? well, google has been working for more than four years now to figure out exactly how to best put together successful teams. the results so far are fascinating. he was part of googles team that investigated the teams and charles wrote about the effort in his new book smarter, faster, better. charles, why did you write this one? >> well, we're living through this period of economic change. at the core of it like economic solutions is on the question of what it is. >> you were concerned about the lack of your own productivity? >> i was concerned about learning how to be more productive and how to take add haven vantage of what we learned. what we found is they tend to
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push themselves to think slightly differently. particularly, one of which is how teams come together. >> what you found was that wasn't just about the personal productivity but group productivity. >> that's right. >> in today's economy and business places, teams are essential to how work gets done. >> you thought about the issue even when you were in business school working on a team in yale. >> that's right. when i think about my experience of yale, what is most interesting is how the research we did at google has helped me understand that experience better of why some teams did incredibly well and why others, despite having such fantastically -- in the room felt we were missing out. >> why did google call this project, project arrest stot l. >> they got the name because the team should be greater than some
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of its parts. what the project was was really an effort at google to try to figure out how do we make a rock star team and we spent years trying to answer that question by conducting many, many interviews following hundreds of teams at google and trying to learn as much as we can about them. >> what is the answer? >> great question. so what we learned is there are few common themes that really separate the most effective teams at google from the rest. by far, the most important thing is the sense of psychological safety. what i mean is being able to take a risk and make yourself vulnerable without feeling like they're going to shoot you down or ridicule you as a result. >> this is fascinating because on campuses, there's been a debate about safe spaces and a lot of hard lines saying this is all coddling nonsense. what your research seems to show is there's something to this idea that a safe space makes
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people more willing to take risks, bare themselves in some way. >> right. >> i think that's absolutely right. in fact, there's a lot of research beyond google and their work to show that's true. there's a researcher called amy ed mund son whose spent her career studying this. first of all, everyone on the team has to feel they can speak equal equally. that doesn't mean everyone speaks equally number of minutes. overtime there's an equality and how much people speak up. that in its own isn't enough. you also have to have social sensitivity. do the people on the team demonstrate they're listening to each other. do i pick up on your nonverbal cues. do i ask what's on your mind? by showing that listening behavior, i'm drawing you into the group and creating that safe space that allows for psychological safety and allows you to take risks. >> i've spent time with google
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people. most of them strike me as very smart. they do not suffer. they do not, they're very blunt if they think something is stupid. do you find telling people, telling these very smart speem from stanford types you know part of what you have to do is listen to the weakest member on your team? how did that go across? >> yeah. so google, data is everything. it's powerful. being able to look at the type of people you're talking about and saying listen, we followed hundreds of teams at google. we analyze thousands of things about them and statistically, what's most important is being able to take a lising with your team members. it's data driven and it's concrete. because of that, it helps people believe that this really matters. >> another team work you found was saturday night live.
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again, you would think this was abunch of smart asses who are going to make jokes at each other and not spend a lot of time coddling each other and yet. >> that's exactly how they came together. that's right. if you talk to people about saturday night live and why that show exceeds you would say it's a miracle. you have abunch of writers who for most of their lives have hated other people and they get together and make a live show every week. they say the reason why is because of lauren michaels because he runs meetings in a specific way. he forces everyone in the room to speak up. you have to say something. then he'll stop a meeting if you're looking distracted and say i notice you're looking up. what's going on in your life? what's happening with you? why aren't you in this conversation. as a result everyone feels they have to speak and everyone's listening to them. what's interesting here is there's a basic tension in saturday night live, google and
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these findings in efficiency and productivity. he would get the expert the stand up and everyone else shut up and listen. productivity often times says you listen to the weaker team and interrupt a meeting saying what's going on inside your head and you get distracted. that's how we get productive instead of busy and efficient. >> has it changed the way google operates? it has. although many things has changed as a result of this work, my favorite one is over 10,000 googlers have had a conversation about psychological safety on their team after we release the work. >> fantastic. >> pleasure to have you guys on. >> thank you. >> next on gps, the highest ranking muslim to hold office in the american government. a great american immigration success story, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations will join me next.
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an amazing life story. especially in this day and age when such fear of foreigners is being stirred up in the united states. born and raised in afghanistan he moved to the united states and became a professor at columbia and went to work at the state department in the days of the soviet union's war in aft afghanist afghanistan. he rose to become u.s. ambassador to afghanistan after the invasion and finally u.s. ambassador to the united nations. in that roll, he was the highest ranking muslim ever in the united states government. he just published a book about his life. my journey through a turbulent world. pleasure to have you on. you grew up in a world different to america. >> i grew up in north ern
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afghanistan. a small town of about 50,000. historic area of the world. he was one of the great centers of world trade of education, of civilization in central asia. over time it had become relatively poor isolated country on the boarder of then and the soviet union. >> what brought you to the united states? >> there is a program called the american field service that brings high school students, junior in high school from around the world and i was one of those who were selected from afghanistan to come to the u.s. i had never left afghanistan and moved from the 50,000 city to the 500,000 town city which s m seemed like a cosmopolitan city. then to come to new york from
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afghanistan was a huge shock. >> so one of the things i saw when i was reading about when trump said he was going to ban all muslims from entering the united states somebody wrote would that include you and fareed too? what do you think when you hear donald trump whose the republican front runner and the leader of a party you've served for say islam hates america? >> islam has been a religion for over a thousand years and there's nothing in islam that hates america. i think that there are some extreme muslims who have hostile actions towards the united states and i understand some people are concerned about that and we all should be concerned about that and do what we can to defend ourselves.
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but i'm an example of you can be a muslim. i've never felt any tension yet along conflict between being a muslim and being an american and representing america in war zones such as iraq and after fan stan and there's many others like me. i think that what we need is our diversity. i could be effective in part as i was because of who i was and my background and understanding of that area of the world. >> and you also in your work as ambassador, u.s. ambassador in afghanistan and iraq, presumably, you must have seen the degree in which u.s. needed muslim allies to fight the extremist. i think about now when we talk about we should go and fight isis, there are tens of thousands of muslims fighting isis. >> absolutely. well, the biggest divide is not between america and muslim, the
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biggest divide is among muslims unfortunately, right now, the world of islam is going through civilization level of crisis between moderate, extremist, traditionalist and now the idea logical issue, the conflict related to political rivalry between major powers of the region, iran and saudi arabia as the key players. we can't fight those wars ourselves and can't address them ourselves and by ourselves. to solve their problems, we can help and our diversity assists us in being a source of good health. >> when you were there in baghdad, in kubal, did the locals look at you and say there's a fellow muslim, he'll
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be nice or did they look at you as an american. >> they looked at me as an american but an american that understood. i spoke their language and knew their history and traditions. i think that helped me become more effective. i was to them something unbelievable. something that only can happen in america. one of their own, someone of that region went to america and became an american and now presents the most powerful country in the would recall. >> if donald trump became president and asked you to serve, would you? >> as an american, i want to help my country, the united states. i think a leader that's willing to unify america, not divide america and follow an
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intelligent long term strategy that as elements of defense and offense against those who wish us ill but also as positive engagement i would be more than happy to offer my views and advice to any of our leaders. >> pleasure to have you on. >> great to be with you. thank you. >> next on gps, do pirates make good prime ministers? one nation is about to find out. i'm terrible at golf.
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now for the last look. ice lan's prime minister was the first obvious casualty following protests in his country. iceland may find itself with an unlikely leader. >> according to a poll released this month, more than 43% of icelanders would support this party that believes in trance parn si, responsibility in politics and freedom of information. they received just three seats in the last election and would win a stunning victory if the election was held today. 43% of them voted for the party, its leader would likely be prime minister. the party's current share is an activist that describes the party as an actor. she's not just a politician,
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she's an artist who describes herself as poe yettism. here's a verse she pinned in 2003. i dreamed last night i was going into politics and going to be the first woman prime minister in iceland. it was a true nightmare. we were told none of those serving in the party need to take on the roll of prime minist minister. getting rid of the old corrupt professional politicians. the correct answer was b. coal mining giant filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy last week siting an unprecedented industry downturn. the coal industry has lost 94% of its market value in just five years. the downturn caused by many
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factors and the lower cost of energy from other sources. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. >> hey, good morning. i'm brian and it's time for reliable sources. this week from the museum, the museum of news internalism, we're watching nbc. we're going to show you some of the coolest artifacts at the museum and also a brand new exhibit about the social election with new data about the real state of the presidential race. and ahead michelle fields speaking out about lewendowski. plus the anchor of the pbs news hour is here