policy ideas? not so much. >> as for the democratic side, hillary clinton and bernie sanders sparring over minimum wage and secretary clinton hoping for a huge win at home with senator sanders drawing home to his thousands in brooklyn and renewing his call for hillary to release transcripts. bernie sanders live in the 8:00 hour. the would your covered only the way cnn can. let's begin at trump tower in new york with jason carroll. jason, good morning. >> reporter: and good morning to you, brooke. we heard about the system being rigged friday and at rails over the weekend. the head of the rnc saying it's not about a system being rigged. about candidates doing their homework and one candidate who is not. >> we have a system that is rigged. we have a system that's crooked. we have this delegate system,
which is a sham. >> reporter: donald trump doubling down on his beef with the rnc and continuing to criticize ted cruz's ground game in the race for 1,237 delegates. >> wining and dining, nobody does it better than me. i just dent want to do it. >> reporter: lyin' ted cruz can't get the votes. i am millions ahead and has to get the vote from republican bosses. it won't work. kruse responding over 1.3 million people voted in five contests against trump. #nowhining. >> i find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. >> reporter: and the rnc chairman campaign issing it can alter the rules and that it's up to each state to change the rules. >> you need to play with the confines of the rules to make sure that you get there. >> reporter: complaints coming on the heels of ted cruz's
sweeping win in wyoming, won through convention not a primary. cruz was the only candidate to attend the convention, and aggressively campaign in the state. >> wyoming matters. we're in a battle, a nationwide battle, for delegates. >> reporter: so what's on tap for today? trump will meet with a group called the national diversity coalition for trump here at trump tower at about noon. a rally in buffalo. at about 7:00 p.m. despite the talk about what's going on with the delegates and the rules involving all of those delegates, he's way up in polls here in the state of new york and is on track to capture a bulk of the delegates here in the state, and brooke and chris, also predicting that come california primary, he's going to have the number of delegates needed to capture the nomination. we shall see. >> hmm. >> brooke, chris? >> jason, appreciate it. we'll check back in a little bit. >> thank you. >> let's discuss. >> what? >> ready for the march of the titles? here we come.
mr. errol lewis, and senior contributor for "the daily caller" mr. matt lewis and washington bureau chief for "the daily beast" jackie kucinich. a lot of practice. errol lewis, hot off the debate stage, driving things like a boss, and now here we are on the eve of the election. the morning before the eve, but give it a break. state of play on both sides. what will matter tomorrow morning? >> what will martyr is whether or not bernie sanders makes the kind of concerted push he has been calling for. his last best hope that a political revolution is at hand and he can close the gap with hillary clinton. this is going to be it. for donald trump, can he take all the delegates? co-chair and others saying we'll get all 95. beat everybody by more than 50%
in every congressional district. that's a winner take all, and getting him on his road to what was just described. victory before california to get ahead for a second and jackie, join in as well. it's looking really solid for trump in new york, but even looking down the line through the rest of april. i'm hearing the cruz camp say they can't way for may and nebraska and indiana, this is looking like trump took the northeast? >> absolutely is. again, trump now kind of has to get to that 1,237 now because of the missteps. ted cruz has vacuumed up all the delegates. saw it again this weekend. it's becoming even more critical that trump lock this up early and still -- even though the next week or so is going to be smooth sailing for him, down the line in may, a little bit of a tougher road for donald trump. >> matt lewis, despite the title of your book "too dumb to fail" still have lots of friends in the party.
what are they saying to you about cruz' and kasich's ability to stop donald trump from getting to 50% in a lot of congressional districts? there will be a lot of retail politicking. trickier than just getting a general 50% across the state? >> that's right. it's hard to tell if people are being, you know, overly optimistic or if you're hearing the real deal, but there is a hope that upstate, that ted cruz can keep donald trump under 50% in some of the congressional districts and he would be above 20%. he or john kasich. doesn't matter, because it's about stopping trump, and that they could pick up some delegates. i think that if ted cruz can get maybe 10 delegates, he would consider that a huge victory, just to deprive donald trump.
>> saying the system is rigged, a bad system. over the weekend heard again from rnc chair reince priebus talks this is all hyperbole. here he was. >> i find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. i think everyone understands these rules have been in place for years. ultimately, about cleaning things up, it's up to the delegates. by majority the delegates decide. they decide everything. it's not a matter of party insiders. it's a matter of 2,400-plus grass roots activists and whatever they want to do, they can do. >> true, errol? totally up to the delegates? >> by and large, absolutely. if not before the convention, certainly at the convention. can make the rules however they want, decide however they want and that's been the procedure since the founding of the party. donald trump made's completely
unforced errors. a story in politico back in april they were sending invitations to people to come to his side and be delegates. sending them to washington, d.c. when they were supposed to go to washington state. >> whoops. >> and two days after the deadline. that kind of stuff is never going to wash. say rigged all you want. you have to master some of the very basic rules. some are a little tricky. the basics of washington state versus washington, d.c., nobody's fault but his own. >> different geography. >> i have to tell you, at a little league game, balls and strikes, half a joke, half not, didn't like the call, people yelling out, "establishment! establishment! making it a function of what people shouldn't like. how does that help him at the ballot box? >> a lot of touch's people that is why he's catching fire. >> already has or do you think he can grow the tent? >> i think he can grow the tent,
and ted cruz has to be careful with his own name-calling. calling trump a whiner. making fun of him on various conservative shows. at risk of looking like trump when he does that. one of the reason people are signing up with cruz, they don't like the nasty, childish games trump is playing. i wonder if cruz keeps up with that tone. >> talking about the all-important rnc rules committee meeting, wanting to openly debate the rules changes and possibly considering making recommendations that would prevent a savior candidate, a la, matt, house speaker. paul ryan, saying last week, no way. please, please, sitting on the floor -- >> everyone's checking his hands seeing if he was -- please elect somebody who's actually running for president, matt. but do you think it would be smart to sort of change up the rules now, or to use a baseball analogy, you know, three strikes
and you're out? is there sort of fuzzy math on the rules right now, or should they stick with what they have? >> well, word has come down from reince priebus, apparently, that this spring meeting, you know, don't worry about changing any rules right now. because it's going to have the appearance that the game is rigged. they're going to wait, probably, until they get to the convention. that's when it matters anyway. when the actual convention rules meeting meets. not the rnc rules committee. a very byzantine process. probably when you'll see changes if they are to be made. why telegraph it or stir up trouble now at the spring meeting and give donald trump more fodder? something quick, because it goes to what reince priebus said. in the clip you played, talked about grass roots activists. an important distinction. these aren't just party bosses. some states have open primaries they let democrats and independents weigh in. you could argue that's not fair. other states are saying, look,
yes, of course, our grass roots activists are more important. give them more weight. >> all right. so matt, errol, jackie, stand by, because we're going to talk about the democratic side just as much up for play tomorrow morning here in new york. but first, mic? >> why don't i do that right now. >> please. tee it up. >> continuing with baseball metaphors all morning. bernie sanders turning out massive sides on the democratic side in his home town of brooklyn. blasting hillary clinton for raising obscenalities of money at west coast. not refereeing but watches from the sidelines. >> exactly right. hillary clinton is feel going enough her lead in the empire state she rolled to the west coast this weekend to raise money and eyebrows including from her host george clooney who called the amount of money raised at his fund-raiser obscene and bernie sanders
returning to brooklyn. bernie sanders hammering hillary clinton for ties to wall street. >> you cannot have a super pac raise many millions of dollars from wall street or special interests and then tell the american people with a straight face that you're going to stand up to the big money interests. not true. >> reporter: the vermont senator is ramping up his attacks on her campaign donations. clinton spent some of weekend in california raising money for herself and other democrats with two events hosted by george clooney. v.i.p. ticket prices hit over $353,000. a group of sanders supporters were showering her motorcade with 1,000 $100 bills saturday. clooney saying he understands. >> obscene am of money. ridiculous we should have this kind of money in politics. >> reporter: sanders placed
clooney's honesty quipping the actor is backing the wrong horse. >> so long as you have candidates like secretary clinton dependent on campaign money interests. >> reporter: and bill clinton was taking a swipe at sanders. >> i think it's funny that all of these young students have been oh enthusiastic for an opponent and sound so good, just shoot every third person on wall street and everything will be fine. >> reporter: and hillary clinton talking up experience to voters across the five boroughs on sunday. >> it's easy to diagnose the problem. you've got to be able to solve the problem! >> reporter: even cutting loose to latin music at a block party. ♪ now, clinton continues to lead sanders by a wide margin in the polls but both candidates are campaigning hard today in new york city. clinton will hold a get out the vote rally this afternoon in manhattan, and sanders has a rally scheduled tonight in long island city and sanders needs a big upset here tomorrow if he
wants a shot at narrowing clinton's lead. michaela? >> before going to long island city, senator sanders joining us in our 8:00 hour in the studios. >> meantime, powerful earthquakes rock ecuador and japan killing hundreds and g injury thousands. the quake soaring to 272 killed and that number expected to rise as crews are searching rubble. both tragedies covered for you. begin with boris sanchez live in ecuador. boris, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, brooke. as you mentioned, the death toll sitting at 272. more than 2,500 people hurt. both of those numbers expected to climb significantly. part of the reasons, officials have yet to get a grasp of the extent of the human cost of this earthquake is that many roads are inaccessible. the infrastructure is a huge problem here in ecuador. you may be able to see behind me
this huge bridge that collapsed on to a car, killing a person and injuring another in a coastal city where the hardest-hit areas are very difficult to access. it's been raining for many weeks consecutively. partly because of el nino. that weakened roads and the earthquake essentially decimated them. getting closer to findingous extent of the damage we'll clear a picture just how powerful this earthquake was. chris? >> we'll stay on it. thank you for being down there. please, keep the people safe and check back in a little bit. boris sanchez in ecuador. two people found in rubble in japan. ecuador dealing with a natural disaster. japan still dealing with it. dozens dead. more than 1,000 injured. rescue crews still racing against time to find signs of life, and they are finding signs of life. matt rivers is live near the epicenter of the 7.3 earthquake that rattled japan on saturday. there are still people alive there and the race is on. what do you know?
>> reporter: that's right, chris. good morning to you, and the sun here has just set, which makes rescuers jobs that much harder. they are still looking for people. you mentioned they found two people, very welcome news here, but officials tell us in this village where we are alone, nine people remain trapped at this point. so they have a lot of work cut out for them overnight. we spent most of our day today watching rescue efforts, and the main culprits here have been landslides. in this village alone, several landslides triggered saturday because of that second earthquake, what ended up collapsing a lot of these buildings what trapped these people and what rescuers are up against at this point. tens of thousands of people will spend the night tonight once again in shelters for fear of more yamp shoaftershocks. we have felt them beneath our feet several times, the grounds swaying and above over in the skies, we have seen u.s. military support.
helicopters flying providing logistical support to the japanese special defense forces. some 25,000 deployed here in this region to help find survivors and begin the cleanup process. michaela? >> matt rivers, thanks and also to boris in ecuador. those it devastating earthquakes both in japan and ecuador have many of us wondering, are they somehow related? all of this instability, this is extraordinary. >> it is. once the earth moves, it seems like it keeps moving, michaela, but we talked to mark simon from cal tech who said the two earthquakes, the one here and the one way over here are probably as related as a tree falling in canada and a mexican cactus falling over at the same time. not related. too far away. now, all of the earthquakes around the earthquake in japan, all of those aftershocks absolutely are they related? no question about it. but over the year on average, over the year, over the entire
world we should have 15 7.0 to almost 8.0 earthquakes. 15. so far we've had 5 and all around that ring of fire. the pacific ring of fire from alaska to japan all the way down south through banda aceh and other areas that have picked up earthquakes in the past. there's your 5. alaska, russia, indonesia, japan and ecuador. seismologists have said there's a potential since the banda aceh earthquake in 2004, there seems to have been an uptick over the world. you say, wait a minute. that's 12 years ago. how can that be an uptick? to you and me 12 years is a long time. but to a couple billion-year-old earth, 12 years is a -- second. >> putting it in perspective. chad, thank you so much. for those at home who would like more information how to help the victims of both earthquakes in ecuador and japan visit our website. voting begins in the new york primary in less than 24
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loses -- how much does he falter? >> i don't think it's -- i mean, it does look like she's going to win here in new york. however, she's not treating it like a lock. she campaigned hard yesterday. she's campaigning hard today and tomorrow. so i think that they're not taking anything for granted. in terms of bernie sanders, it will hurt him if he doesn't win, you know, a good proportion of delegates here in terms of momentum. however, it's hard to think that, you know, he's just going to pack it in, if he loses new york. they're expecting to lose new york. if they pull off an upset, a huge boost for that campaign. >> errol, you're a blessing every day, but few people are wired in new york the way you are. the polls this close are meaningless. we get that, but the cross-tabs are not. clinton is down 20 points from where people say she should be as the unfavorable opinion. okay? the unfavorable opinion, looking
at democrats, opinion of them, 56% negative. democrat registered voters on her. sanders, 37%. that's really where you want to be. nobody's really ever above close to 40% in these kinds of things. >> right. >> what does that mean here and moving forward? >> something she has to overcome. let me suggest, strategists of hers said it quiet lis, a lot of this is sexism. it's buried so deep people say, i don't trust her. she doesn't keep her word, and turn around, say what politician does? you know? the governor of new york, of course, is an exception. right? but politicians all the time, they change their opinions. they move here, move there. with hillary clinton seems to be something completely unacceptable. everybody raises money from all kinds of sources. >> not the cascade of scandals? >> i think there's an element of that. it doesn't necessarily play itself out, i think, in the vote. but i think that's what accounts for those polls, because she is,
in fact, those same polls show that a lot of people are going to vote for her, but ask about particular characteristics, gets funky. here again -- >> do you buy it? >> you don't see it happening to every politician. just her. >> she's also the only woman in the race. who else are you going to compare it to? carly fee -- fiorina? >> i don't know if i believe that. if she didn't have the record she had, the clintons, being in politics -- >> his numbers are better but a bigger originator of a lot of her trouble? >> that is true but when you're not running for something, people like you more. hillary clinton has higher positives at secretary of state and the numbers went down when she started running for election. when you scrutinize a record things get a little more dicey. >> talk about the dollar bills raining down on the clintons over the weekend. before i get there, george clooney, stepping in, weighing in on this over the weekend, he
and his wife amal hosted a star-studded, $33,000 a ticket kind of fund-raiser for secretary clinton. >> big money. >> and he even weighed in over the weekend saying, listen, this kind of money in politics is obscene. here he was. >> it is about obscenality of money. the sanders campaign when they talk tab is absolutely right. it's ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics. i agree, completely. the overwhelming amount of money we're raising, and it is a lot, but the overwhelming amount of the money that we're raising is not going to hillary to run for president. it's going to the down ticket. it's going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back congress. >> so that night we have the video of the 1,000 $1 thrown at the clinton motorcade going into this fund-raiser what did you make of this stunt? >> give them credit for having music. more appeal, more likely to be
shown on tv. of course, it's theater. they want to make hillary, getting the benefit of raising all of this money, let's have it, ding her a little bit. with it. i felt clooney, you know, you could say he was being defensive, talking how the money is not just going to hillary, but there's also a message there. which is that bernie sanders hasn't been a loyal democrat. hasn't been part of helping elect other democrats, and so i think clooney was maybe subtly reminding everyone that hillary is sort of a party stalwart who actually cares about growing the party and bernie sort of has shown up and said, i'm a democrat. >> matt lewis, errol lewis, jack you kucinich. who better to answer for his campaign than the man himself, senator bernie sanders joining us live right here in our studio, 8:00 hour. please watch. just 34 ho24 hours before the b
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the saudis are saying, if this bill comes through we have to worry about our assets that we hold in the u.s. becoming frozen. talking pulling out some $750 billion worth of assets out of the u.s. now, of course, the big question is, are they really going to do this? because there are people who believe first of all logistically it's very difficult. second of all they think if the saudis would actually do this they would probably hurt themselves more than they would hurt the u.s. nevertheless, the latest we're hearing, the obama administration is not in favor of his bill fearing economic repercussions for the u.s. and they feel other countries could come forward and do retaliatory action against the u.s., meaning americans could be prosecuted abroad as well. of course, there are victims organizations of people who lost loved ones in 9/11 who say it's an outrage that the obama administration would be against all this, because they feel that the obama administration is on the side of the saudis rather than their own people.
it certainly is something that is causing a lot of anger, and, of course, we know president obama is going to be in saudi arabia on wednesday. not clear whether the topic will be on the agenda. chris? >> thank you very much, fred, keep us apprised of all developments there. also breaking overnight, defense secretary ash carter arriving in baghdad for an unannounced visit with troops and he'll meet with iraqi officials looking for ways to build on recent gains against isis. carter will sit down with the iraqi prime minister along with his defense minister to discuss specific ways the u.s. can provide military assistance to iraq. and this morning in brazil, lawmakers in the lower house there voting to impeach embattled president and thousands of protestors taking to the streets before sunday's vote. the motion now goes on to the senate, and if it passes, she will have to step down for six months to defend herself in an impeachment trial. accused of hiding a massive
deficit in the budget to win the election. across the nation, the supreme court hears one of its biggest cases this term. texas and 25 other states are challenging president obama's executive action on immigration. now, the program was meant to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation before it was blocked last year by a federal judge. new strains in the relationship between the u.s. and russia. have you heard about these two recent events? russian fighter jets dangerously close to an air force plane, 50 feet above the wing, by the way, in the batik's is moscow trying to send a message? seems so. why is putin flexing his military muscle right now? "military take," ahead. prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors
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obvious signs of provocation. why? and what's going to be done about it? let's get the "military take." retired army command are general for europe and the 7th army, general mark hurtland. lieutenant general, general, great to have you with us. these acts of provocation what they, period. no other way to explain them. why now, and have you ever heard of anything like this before? >> oh, absolutely, chris. this goes back several decades. these are the kinds of things that occurred all throughout the cold war. interesting over the last couple years, ever increasing. about 400 of them in 2014. 500 in 2015. on a pace right now to have more than that this year. and they've become more unprofessional and more unsafe. this is something that occurs between nations, between militaries, just to keep check on other militaries that are in your battle space, but what the russians are doing now seems to be a little bit more extreme
than it's ever been before. >> what do you make of politicians who say, provocative things like this, general, are reason to have a no-fly zone in syria? is that a good answer, a bad answer? >> no, i don't think that's a good answer at all. we've dealt with no-fly zones before, chris, as you know. we had two of them, the northern and southern one in iraq for over ten years, and they didn't seem to actually help all that much in terms of keeping things in place, and it also requires an awful lot of forces. but a no-fly zone isn't gone to incur these that the russians have done. >> the situation of what do you do if not adhered to or respected? taking us to the response now. what has been done in the past? what is the most effective way to deal with these kinds of provocations? >> interestingly enough, chris, there's an actual bilateral agreement that dates back to 1972 with the russians. it's called the incident at sea
agreement, and it was put in place, because of an incident of the russians actually zooming past an aircraft carrier where the aircraft that did that action sucked in water and crashed and killed the pilot. and back in those days, during the cold war, both governments said, enough is enough. let's knock this off, and there were several thing put into this bilateral when russia is completely disregarding all of this. it's to keep soldiers and sailors and airmen safe when conducting operations and exercises and prevent provocation. what you're seeing the russians do right now is purposely attempt to provoke, and to do things that are not only unprofessional, but unsafe. >> the u.s. and soviet incidents at sea agreement, 1972. coming home to roost right now. very interesting. general, finally, some of the speculation here is that, well, this isn't just about the u.s. specifically. this is about nato. if you look at nato. >> oh, yeah. >> like 400 intercepts of
russian combat air cracraft in europe in 2014. tells us, one, something russia does to others than the u.s., this is a tactic. what is this a sign of? famed diplomatic relations? obviously, it isn't something you'd wanted to see military response, right? >> you're seeing the russians attempt to influence and influencing countries in certain areas, chris. these last couple of incidents occurred over the baltic sea. they don't like the facts that lithuania, estonia and latvia have joined nato. there's a russian military base that's actually between lithuania and poland and poland and lithuania were both participating in this exercise where the ship was buzzed. all of these things are russia's attempt to not only intimidate u.s. forces, but also to try and influence eastern european countries, former soviet bloc countries that have joined nato.
it's all part of a game, and it's not a very good way to conduct diplomatic engagements. >> the footprint, the presence expanded by all accounts. more involvement and more deadly involvement in ukraine, becking for a response. the question, what will it be? general, as always, thank you for helping us understand better. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. dealing with that, and now i'm giving it back to you at the desk, i believe, to brooke. >> you are, chris cuomo. thank you so much. we have to talk about parts of texas, oklahoma, kansas, nebraska this morning dealing with dangerous flash flooding and a threat of tornadoes. this part of the country having trouble shaking the storm system. when will people in the plains see some relief? that for you, coming up. i'm terrible at golf. he is. people say i'm getting better.
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don't go out. it is life-threatening out there. you said a month's worth? almost a half a year's worth could be coming down here. 20 inches of rain in northwest harris county in the past 48 hours alone. rivers are at flood stage down there in houston. now, it's raining all the way to omaha, but that's not the real threat. the real threat is down across the gulf coast, layers county, victoria, towards liberty. even a tornado warning for liberty county just northeast of houston as that rain continues, thousands and thousands of lightning strikes going on right now. guys? >> all right, my friend. my friends, bleacher report this morning, the big three for the cavs lining up to their nickname, living up to their nickname in the playoff opener. andy scholes in the believer report saying this could be a really, really good set of playoff, but what do you think, smiley? >> well -- we hope so, chris, but so far this weekend, not many great games.
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former president bill clinton is stumping for hillary all over new york ahead of tomorrow's primary. the former president ran into trouble in 2008 when last campaigning for his wife. a few stumbling this time around, too. is he an asset or liability for hillary's campaign? joining us now, john avalon, a cnn political analyst and editor-in-chief of "the daily beast." although i'm in our cuomo will find a way to make you a liability. you are here with me. that's all that matters. this is our space. our space. we know he has been sort of the chief campaigner for hillary and for all of the democrats, to be honest. >> yeah. >> hillary likes his speech so much, that they've actually made some of his speeches into an ad. let's's listen. >> america needs a woman who were not just talk change but make change who will take us all
along for the ride and empower everybody. because when you're president, after you take your hand off the bible, you can label and blame for about 15 seconds, and you either show up and make it better, or you don't. her first instinct is always not to blame, not to label, but to add what can i do to make it better? >> powerful stuff. what does he bring to the table? >> acknowledge this is an unprecedented situation. a former president campaigning for the potential nominee who is his wife. >> could end up being the first gentleman. >> the first laddie, as he's said. bill clinton is the big dog in democratic politics. brought out to act as a primary sugge surrogate since he left the white house. he has a gift in retail campaigning talk be in ways that resonate with folk. the clinton campaign could are crazy to leave that asset in the
garage. >> in fact he's not, except, infallible. black lives matters protestors. what he said. >> i don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out on to the street to murder other african-american children. maybe you thought they were good citizens. she didn't. she didn't! >> when somebody won't hush and listen to you, that ain't democracy. they're afraid of the truth. don't you be afraid of the truth. don't you be afraid of the truth. >> so, then, he almost apologized for it. i want to play a little of this. >> -- philadelphia, i waums wnt apologize but use it as the danger threatening our country. i know those young people yesterday were trying to get good television and they did, but that doesn't mean i was most effect nive in answering.
>> is this effective? could it ultimately hurt clinton's campaign? >> i don't think so. >> you don't? >> i don't. fascinating. bill clinton got in trouble in the 2008 campaign, comments made during the south carolina, comparing it to jesse jackson. fascinating, because it's about divisions inside the democratic party that bernie sanders and hillary clinton absolutely represent. but the fight goes back to the crime bill. the fact is, bill clinton doesn't feel he has anything to apologize for the crime bill. he says that -- it needs to be reformed. there were unintended consequences. to that extent they've made mistakes. confronted with protestors arguing with bernie he pushed back hard and authentically. if you really believe in black lives matter give the crime bill credit for reducing murder rates. >> quick, remains to be seen how he talks about bernie sanders, if will will hurt or help bernie sanders? >> a few things i haven't enjoyed about the primary. it's fine all the young students are enthusiastic for an opponent and sounds so good, just shoot
every third person on wall street and everybody would be fine. >> yeah. so then -- of course, bern hey to react to that. >> yes. >> we should be encouraging young people to get involved in politics, not disparaging them. is this kind of stuff where he is a tricky surrogate for hillary? >> look, he is so valuable, especially this stage of the campaign. people get tired and make mistakes. his style is very loose. he's joking, you can tell by the style, but joking about taking bankers out and shoot them. that kind of stuff is pulled out and used as a negative. >> and bernie sanders was fechter. >> tweeting that out. a daily beast link, appreciate it, and pushing that out saying -- joking or not, this is not the kind of disparagement of the kind of policies we're debating when it comes to banks. so, look, there is a cost when you get someone with that big a personality but i think as bill clinton once said about the country, what's right with bill clinton outways what's wrong with bill clinton. >> good to have you here, my
friend. thanks so much. following a lot of news including an update on the deadly earthquakes in both ecuador and japan. let's get to it. powerful earthquakes rocked ecuador and japan this weekend killing hundreds, injuring thousands. >> rescue workers racing against time to find any signs of life. >> i don't want to play the rule game. we live in a democracy. >> i am not going to whine but tell you the facts. >> we're headed to a battle to see who the republican nominee is. >> we need a little more aggression in this country. >> you cannot have a super pac and then tell the american people you're going to stand up to the big money interests. >> it's easy to diagnose a problem. you've got to be able to solve the problem! >> we have got to be bold, and aggressive. >> are we perfect? no. but are we already great? the answer is -- yes! >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn
camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, welcome back to your "new day." alisyn is off. brooke baldwin is with us. >> sure is. good morning. >> good morning. of course, following the presidential race. tomorrow's big primary in new york. we have bernie sanders here live on the show in a little bit, but there's also breaking news to tell you about this morning that's very important. let's begin with the earthquake devastation in japan and ecuador where the death toll is soars. hundreds are dead. thousands more injured. rescuers sifting through the rubble to find survivors in both countries.ravtiey iey iey iey i for you. >> reporter: good morning. in japan, night has fallen making rescue efforts more difficult in combination with what they're up against. the rubble behind me, what we're seeing all over the place in this area. two people have been found,
though, during rescue operations duing the day today. very welcome news for very weary rescuers, who spent the last 48 hours looking for those people, but 9 people, according to officials, remain trapped in this area. we spent most of our day watching those rescue operations in this village. this very hard-hit village, and landslides have been the main culprit here triggered by that earthquake that happened on saturday. that mudslide, the landslide came down, knocked over buildings and trapped those people. tens of thousands are expected to spend the evening tonight once again in evacuation shelters for fear of more aftershocks. we have felt those aftershocks ourselves really making the ground swayback and forth and have also heard helicopters up above. the u.s. military has provided logistical support for its colleagues in the japanese self-defense forces on the ground starting this cleanup process, and trying desperately to find any survivors. back to you. >> all right. thank you so much. meanwhile, a 7.8 earthquake
hit coastal ecuador. the death toll continues to rise there. it rattled ecuador over the weekend and we find our boris sanchez there. the death toll is rising as they see how bad the effects of this has been. >> reporter: that's right, michaela. the death toll will continue to grow. we've heard that from ecuadorian leaders here. part of the problem the infrastructure is badly rattled by this earthquake. every several weeks of pounding rain from el nino, the roads here were weakened. now they're decimated following this earthquake, and you can see it right behind me illustrated by this bridge. this is one of the busiest overpasses in the city where we are right now, and this bridge actually collapsed on to a car killing a person and injuring a passenger as well. president of ecuador was actually at the vatican and cut that trip short to come leer and lead this recovery effort. more than 10,000 soldiers, 4,000
police officers are aiding in the process of digging out. as you said, a massive earthquake, but not the deadliest ecuador has ever had. in 1987 a 7.2 killed 1,000 people. the hope here is that the damage in this earthquake is not quite as extensive. back to you. >> boris, still hoping they may find miracles of people alive under that rubble. for people at home, information how to help in the rescue and relief efforts both in ecuador and japan visit cnn.com/impact. the update on the political war going on here on the eve of the new york primary. donald trump is warning the republican party bosses to fix the delegate system or get ready for "a rough july." when the convention is. right? trump claiming he got robbed again. this time in wyoming where all 14 of the state's delegates were awarded to ted cruz over the weekend. we have the political coverage. kick it off with cnn's jason cor carroll live at the trump tower
in manhattan. >> reporter: good morning. you talk about donald trump and his whole deceive with the delegate system. the words he's used to describe what's going on. sham, crooked, dishonest, rigged. certainly doing well in polls here, but if he wants to mend ties with the gop establishment, he certainly has some ground to cover. >> we have a system that's rigged, a system that's crooked, a delegate system which is a sham. >> reporter: donald trump doubling down on his war with the rnc and continuing to criticize ted cruz' ground game and the race towards 1,237 delegates. >> the fact you take all of these people out and wine them and dine them. nobody does it better than me. i just don't want to do it. >> reporter: the front-runner tweeting, lyin' ted cruz can't get the votes. i am millions ahead of him, so he has to get his delegates from the republican bosses. it won't work. cruz responding tweeting over 1.3 million people voted in five
contests against trump. #nowhining. >> i find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. >> reporter: and the rnc chairman, reince priebus, saying the rnc can alter the rules and it's up to each state to decide the rules. >> the majority of delegates is the goal and you need to play within the confines of the rules to make sure you get there. >> reporter: trump's complaints coming on the heels of ted cruz' sweeping flinn wyoming, delegates won through a convention not a primary. cruz was the only candidate to attend the convention, and aggressively campaign in the state. >> wyoming matters. we're in a battle, a nationwide battle, for delegates. >> reporter: so despite what he thinks of the delegate system, trump is still on track to secure nearly the bulk of the 95 delegates here in the state, and he's predicting after the california primary he'll have what he needs to secure the nomination. brooke? >> jason carroll, thank you very
much much there in front of trump tower this monday morning. bringing in the co-chair of mr. trump's new york campaign and new york city councilman joe borrelly and new jersey chairman of the ted cruz presidential campaign steve lonegan. gentlemen, good morning. a big day tomorrow. >> absolutely. >> big day tomorrow here in new york. joe, begin with you. to jason the point, obviously, the trump camp hoping to lock up, if not all 95 delegates, the majority of. how confident that will happen? >> extremely confident. the last poll coming out trump still has a significant lead at 54%. here, unlike other places with fair criticism for, donald trump has an outstanding ground game. has support of a large number of county chairmans. the people appointing delegates in the congress many districts he's winning. i'm confident in a couple things. a large trimajority. >> 95 stake here in new york, looking at ted cruz over the
weekend, all delegates at the wyoming convention. great for you all. a tweet from senator cruz, you lost all five in a row by huge margins, #nowhining. you think he's a whiner? >> oh, absolutely whining because he's losing, losing, losing, the past 2 1/2, 3 weeks, make break that losing streak in new york but the other thing has happened over the weekend, states like georgia, north carolina, kentucky, oklahoma. ted cruz has been earning delegates as republicans have been gathering in fire houses and church basements to caucus and work hard to become delegates, because that's what the republican party is about. about the people who make the phone calls, knock on doors, volunteer for the campaigns. get people elected. maybe some have been elected officials. donald trump calls these hard-working republicans party bosses. those who make up the party. his idea of republican who somebody who takes five minutes out of their day stops by the voting booth, votes and goes home and posts things on
facebook. >> wow. >> the republican party is about its grass roots. about the people who work hard every single day to build the party. that's the delegates that go to the convention and nominate the next president of the united states. >> you have to respond. >> out of those states that ted cruz mentioned not all of those people actually voted in a traditional or conventional means. but that said, let's even give ted cruz the notion that he had a very successful weekend, but what happened tomorrow? 95 delegates go to, potentially, donald trump. p pivot that into the following tuesday. pulls off the greater of 172 delegates. the swan song of ted cruz' campaign. once he breaks that 1,000 delegate mark, whether the american public likes it or not we have to start accepting donald trump is going to be the prezumptdive nominee. >> the cruz team has been extraordinarily organized seems to be in a sense winning in the delegate game, talk about the democratic and republican side, math versus momentum. because we've heard time and
time again, mr. trump trickling down over the weekend, the adjective, calling it a bad system. over and over hearing it needs to change. we've heard from the rnc chair reince priebus referring to this as hyperbole. here he was. >> i find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. i think everyone understands these rules have been in place for years. but ultimately, about cleaning things up, it's up to the delegates. i mean, by majority, the delegates decide. they decide everything. so it's not a matter of party insiders. it's a matter of 2,400-plus grass roots activists, and whatever they want to do, they can do. >> do you agree with him? >> it's ironic that this convention is going to be against a new yorker named donald trump. back to the very beginning of the republican party, funkctiond over this all these years. abraham lincoln knocked off mr. seward on the
ballots to win that election. at the end of the day after trump loses that convention, threats to run a third-party campaign, riots at the convention. clear to me donald trump is using the republican party. were he loses go back to the democrat party where he spent most of his life. >> that's absurd. >> is he going to get behind the front-runner? the winner of the convention? >> end of the day, delegates count. voters should appoint the consistently -- >> when he signed up. he knew the rules. how can you suddenly change the rules? >> we're not changing rules or asking rules to be changed. we have potentials, come off with a huge win tomorrow and the next day. i've said before. the takeaway really should be that donald trump has 2 million more votes than ted cruz.
people in the united states of america want to believe the person with the most votes ought to win. >> it's the primary process at the end of the day. >> by the way, 65% of republican primary voters voted against donald trump. one tlerd -third of the vote. >> may hate the number of 1,237 and may not have this conversation. >> and if he does he'll win the nomination. friday donald trump got up and said he didn't want to waste his money going to wyoming and asking for their votes. to him, going to wyoming -- asking for votes, was a waste of their money. >> 14 delegates and focusing on new york. 95 delegates at stake. cleveland, and verbiage from mr. trump, specifically, perhaps a rough july, hoping cleveland convention doesn't turn violent, but continuing to press the case the system is rigged. final question to you, do you think that's the right choice of words? is he stirring the pot? ahead of july. >> maybe he's stirring the pot trying to vote mate his voters. people who vote for donald trump
expect their votes translate into delegates. >> is that motivating saying it could be a rough july? >> motivate people? some people. at the end of the day, a rough june for ted cruz too. even if the campaign is stretched out to the june primaries, still have leads in california and new jersey. >> okay. >> i think trump supporters need to understand something. they need to realize ted cruz has the kind of ground game and ability to organize and win to beat hillary clinton. donald trump does have the ability to beat hillary clinton. that's what will matter at the convention come july. >> gentleman, thank you so much. to be continued tomorrow. a big day here in new york. appreciate your time this early monday morning. michaela, to you. >> darling, thank you. bragging rights and some on the line for democrats as we count down to tomorrow's high stakes new york primary. can brooklyn-born bernie sanders upset former senator hillary clinton in her adopted home state? cnn the chris frates joins us with more. krit? >> reporter: good morning. hillary clinton is feeling good about her lead here in the empire state that she rolled to
the left coast this weekend to raise money, and some eyebrows, including former host george clooney who called the amount of money raised at his fund-raiser obscene, and sanders returned from his visit with the pope to a huge rally in his native brooklyn. bernie sanders has been hammering hillary clinton for her ties to wall street. >> you cannot have a super pac raise many millions of dollars from wall street or special interests and then tell the american people with a straight face that you're going to stand up to the big money interest. not true. >> reporter: the vermont senator is ramping up attacks on her campaign donations. clinton spent some of the weekend in california raising money for herself and other democrats with two events hosted by george clooney. v.i.p. ticket prices hit over $353,000. ♪ >> reporter: a group of sanders a sporters showering her
motorcade with 1,000 $1 bills in los angeles on saturday. clooney admitting he understands the frustration. >> it is about obscene amount of money. the sanders campaign, when they talk about it is absolutely right. it's ridiculous we should have this kind offen in politics. >> reporter: sanders praised clooney's honesty quipping he's backing the wrong horse. >> you won't have a representative backing all of us -- >> reporter: on the campaign trail, bill clinton making several unscheduled stops around new york was taking a swipe at sanders. >> i think it's fine that all of these young students have been so enthusiastic for an opponent and sounds so good. just shoot every third person on wall street and everything would be fine. >> reporter: and hillary clinton was talking up her experience to voters across the five boroughs on sunday. >> it's easy to diagnose the problem. you've got to be able to solve the problem! ♪ >> reporter: even cutting loose to latin music at a block party. ♪
now, clinton continues to lead sanders by a wide margin in new york, and the polls here, but both candidates, of course, campaigning hard today in new york city. clinton will hold a get out the vote rally this afternoon in manhattan, and sanders has a rally scheduled tonight in long island city and brns loernie sa looking for a big upset tomorrow if he wants a shot at narrowing hillary clinton's lead. >> first he'll join us here on "new day." senator bernie sanders joins us on "new day." we'll speak to him live in the 8:00 hour on the set. and lawmakers voting to impeach the president in brazil. two-thirds majority passing the motion in brazil the lower house last night. it now goes before the senate, and if it's passed there, the president will have to step down for six months to defend herself in an impeachment trial. the president has to step down to do that. in brazil. a key distinction. now, this is all going to be
revolving around the election there in 2014, as we get details, we'll give them to you. a college student in california is demanding an apology from southwest airlines. after being escorted off a plane for speaking arabic. saying he called his uncle in baghdad waiting for the plane to take off from l.a. earlier this month. a woman sitting in front of him told the crew she overheard him making potentially threatening comments. then a crew member escorted him off the plane. he was then questioned by the fbi. he says he does not plan to take legal action. okay. what do you get when you match up cnn's new york debate in brooklyn with a "seinfeld" twist? "snl" comedy gold. this weekend's show opening with a cnn spoof and mini "seinfeld" wee union host, and glossing over a question in classic "seinfeld" fashion.
>> so, listen, you've been pretty vague in the past, but how exactly are you going to break up the big banks? >> you mean a big bank breakup? >> yeah, a big bank breakup. >> you break 'em up! >> how? how? >> once i'm elected president i'll have a nice schmitz in the white house gym then go to the big banks, sit them down and yada, yada, yada, they'll be broken up! >> what? no, no! you can't yada yada at a debate. also, you yada yada-ed over the best part. >> no. i mentioned the schmitz! [ laughter ] >> the yada yada. >> i love it. >> classic "seinfeld" moment all coming together. >> so good. i love it. fantastic. >> take something close enough to what's going on, that there's applausability and then make it ridiculous. >> and then a little -- a little, you know, remembrance from back in the day is always good, too. >> i feel we should give pointers to the guy who plays wolf.
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all right. it is true. by most polls you're going to see that hillary clinton is leading bernie sanders by double digits or close or even more than that. you know what? the polls are offer very wrong especially when dealing with big demographics, what you'll have here in new york. no question rallies are telling a different story of momentum. 20,000-plus washington square park. in brooklyn yesterday, they say even more than that, and you're seeing a lot of different positive movements as well. we have the congress member from hawaii tulsi gabbard here.
she is a big player in congress, and she believes that senator sanders is the right choice and you're here to make the case. always a pleasure. >> i do. thanks, chris. >> we like to talk about what matters especially where the veterans are involved. this matters in the race as well. we've asked each of the candidates, what's going on with the g.i. bill in congress. you know the bill well. so you remember, we talked about it friday with the head of the iraq and afghanistan veterans association. 400,000-plus members they have, trying to take this money for housing allowance that a lot of people when an overage used for dependents. help those families. congress members want to take that money and use it to pay for other programs. they say this is being efficient. the veterans organization and others in that space say, no, it isn't. find your money somewhere else. the g.i. bill is not a piggy bank. we've asked senator cruz, governor kasich, hillary
clinton, san bernardirn bernie trump. >> important because of the support it dependents a spouse or children, and symbolic something is happening here. bottom line is, you don't break your promises to our veterans, to our service members, you know, who have put their lives on the line and sacrificed so much. to their family members. this goes against the very mission of the v.a. the veterans affairs department. so this is really a big thing both for the g.i. bill, but also indicative of other efforts that we see time and time again trying to peel back benefits for our veterans that are intended to be able to honor their service, and to be able to help them through this transition. >> now, secretary clinton came up, forward first, and said, i'm not going to let that happen. i'll fight against it. to be fair, senator sanders, aggressive in putting out additional programs for veterans. we'll see what he says about this when we have rim on.
>> senator sanders put out a tweet several weeks ago when he first learned about this, how it's important to defend the g.i. bill and you mentioned through his time in the senate as well as what he has outlined he will do as president for our veterans, he has a strong record of championing their needs and making sure they get the care they deserve. >> and everything that tulsi gabbard said is true about bernie sanders, but the big question is, can he get it done? his bill he put out for vets a year and a half or so ago, couldn't get it done. this, go there and fight for, can he get done? free college. you know, changing the things he wants to change about the banks. how will he be able to get these things done in d.c.? sounds great, but the follow-through, maybe not so much. defend it. >> he actually did pass a historic piece of veterans legislation serving in the united states senate about a year and a half ago. the veterans choice and accountability act. this is something that was
monumental, had been worked on a very long time. a lot of people said it couldn't be done, but he worked with john mccain in a bipartisan fashion and got this legislation through. it's done a whole host of things. first of which is provided access to veterans, who as cnn has talked about in-depth, faced incredible wait were periods just to see a doctor for a first time, just to see a specialist to get that care. this choice act said, hey, look. if the v.a. says wait more than 30 days, the v.a. will pay for you to go see a doctor in your community so you get that care. >> he was able to do that. how about these bigger ticket items, though? et gooding free college? and i'm leaving the deficit talk to the side. a lot of economists saying the numbers don't add up. i'm talking political capital. what is it about bernie sanders that you can tell the voters in this state and this country, yeah, he can get it done. it's not just pie in the sky? >> he's shown through his record he can work in a bipartisan effort to get things done.
if you look at the rally as was at yesterday in brooklyn. i was inkbredably moved. 28,300 people who came out to brooklyn yesterday not for a rock concert, but because they care about the future of this country and they care about taking action to be able to make things better, to be able to put some of these strong changes forward, and whenever we see any major change that happens in congress, we see that it happens, because people on the grass roots mobilize. they activate. they call their members of congress and say, you have to get this done. i've seen that in the time that i've been in congress, which things change, or you expect a certain outcome and it flips, it happens because you have people like those here in new york who come out, who pick of you the phone, who bang down the doors and say, hey, we demand this change. you are accountable to us as voters in this country, and that's really what bernie sanders focus is all about, and i think what should be giving us hope in this country, so many people really are stepping up,
getting engaged, informed and taking action. >> tulsi gabbard, always good to have you here. thank you for making the case this morning. >> thank you. >> tulsi gabbard, no joke. nobody can make the case for bernie sanders like the man can himself. senator will be here in the next hour. join us for that, please. saudi arabia is threatening to hit the u.s. in the pocketbook if it pass as bill allows 9/11 victims to sue foreign sponsor of terror. could this bill cause a u.s. they'll always be our . so there will be things to keep us up at night. will they find happiness? reach their potential. stay safe. fall in love. but tonight johnson's can help with a bedtime routine clinically proven to help them fall asleep faster. and stay asleep longer. there will be things to keep us up. but tonight, we sleep.
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above the tops of cars in parking lots. you can go on twitter and just search houston, because it's trending, and you'll be able to see all of the incredible pictures of what 20 inches of rainfall will look like. now, if you're northwest of the city, like katie, and those areas, the areas that picked up the most, but it is now really raining hard in houston as well. so that flooding is going to get into the downtown area. hundreds of flights to houston today are going to get cancelled. already about 100 on the map right now, but most of them are going to be gone, because there's no way to get to or from the airport once you get there. that's how bad this flooding is. never before seen levels, are some of the words being used by the weather service out there. guys? >> wow. keep a close eye on it with you, of course, chad myers. thank you so much. mean-type, talking about saudi arabia. warning there will be severe economic consequences for the united states if congress passes this bipartisan bill that could
hold the kingdom responsible for any role in the 9/11 terrorist attack. this um ccan -- comes actually couple days before president obama touches down in saudi arabia. joining me to discuss, good morning and thank you so much for joining us. >> pleasure. >> first of all, just in terms of the potential. if this bill were to pass, and the white house, you know, we don't know if the president would veto. they're not commenting as they say on a hypothetical. saudi arabia threatening to sell off billions of dollars of american assets. secretary kerry has said this would be a terrible precedent. how damaging do you think it would be? >> pretty damaging. this is what happens when congress gets involved in foreign policy. you also cringe, because you know it's highly partisan an involvement of very complex issues. look, the problem with saudi arabia is, on the one hand there's no question that saudi arabia has funded and exported a very extreme intolerant version
of islam that has in some ways been at heart, the ideological heart of al qaeda and even isis. on the other hand, these guys, the terrorists, have also been attacking the saudi government for 20 or 30 years. so the saudis have had a security level been trying to fight them. they've been one of the united states' closest allies. it's almost like they create add frankenstein's monster, somewhat unintentionally and are now reaping the consequences. in that complexity, to say they are legally liable as a government for actions that some of their citizens participated in 15 years ago strikes me as both politically, you know, very, very difficult, but also borderline unconstitutional. i mean, how does that work? that you can hold people liable for wrongful acts that happened 15 years ago? >> which is precisely what a number of these victims' family would say. yes, that they should be able to sue countries like saudi arabia for any kind of involvement. they've never been formally
implicated in 9/11 and have long denied involvement. when you look at the number of hijackers. what? 15 out of the 19 hijackers were saudi nationals. >> what this -- kind of revolves around -- >> 28 pages? >> within the 9/11 commission report, 28 pages not released. this was not actually in the 9/11 commission report. this was an earlier congressional report that finished its work in 2002, but i called up the director of the 9/11 commission -- >> which is classified? >> it's classified. he explained why it was. and i want to put up the quote, because it's really an important, it's important to understand exactly what he's saying. the 28 pages is based almost entirely on unvetted raw material that came to the fbi. material was written up in fbi times as possible leads for investigation, before completing its work the congressional panel nerve her a chance to check any of these claims. it never conducted any interviews on the material.
that is why the 28 pages have not been released. they are not traditional classified material. the concerns are more in the nature of those covered by grand jury secrecy rules because the unvetted leads appear to implicate people in serious crimes without the benefit of follow-up investigation to determine if such charges are valid. now, it's very important to understand what that means in this context. there clearly was some saudi involvement in 9/11, but by saudi, one means saudi citizens. it is not clear, in fact, it is very unclear, that the saudi government in any way was involve are and by and large it wasn't, because as i say, al qaeda was trying to depose the government of saudi arabia among other things. it's highly unlikely the saudi government was in in way involved. >> president obama arrives in saudi arabia i believe it's wednesday. meets with the king and other saudi government officials. does this, is this, in sort of topic of conversation, or not at all? >> oh, i'm sure it will be front
and center. the saudis are very worried about this. their threat is frankly too blunt and instrument. they shouldn't be talking about it in that way. you know, it's one of those classic cases where, if you owe the bank $1 million. it's your problem. if you owe the bank $100 million, it's their problem. the saudis can't release -- they own hundreds of billions of u.s. assets. try and sell that, the value of it all will plunge. the saudi economy will be thrown into turmoil. i think it would certainly mean that the saudis would have a much weaker relationship with the united states, would invest less in it, buy less of its treasuries going forward. i'm not sure that they could actually carry through their threat to sell. that's not the reason it's a bad idea. the reason it's a bad idea is that it hijacks american diplomacy from the president. it puts in jeopardy american soldiers and americans. remember, we have a big footprint all over the world.
we've done stuff all over the world. if every country started suing the united states for things that particularly were done by american citizens or companies, it would be a disaster. the role of saudi arabia is very complicated. i've been a critic of saudi arabia from day one after 9/11 for feeding this ideology, but i this it's unfair to say that the saudi government, which has been the target number two in many ways for many of these groups, was actually implicated itself as a government. >> okay. far reek fareek zakaria thank you very much. not talking about the polls at this point. it's all about which campaign can turn out the vote. yes, clinton has a double-digit lead in the polls, but can she make it count at the ballot box? we're going to go through the strategy, next. when consultant josh atkins books at laquinta.com.
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hillary clinton is up in the polls heading into tomorrow's big new york primary, but it's all about how you get it done on the ground. her campaign is saying, what you will see tomorrow is a metaphor for the big states to come. check in with brian fallon, press secretary for hillary for america and former spokesman for the department of juof justice. brine good to have you. why do you believe tomorrow will be a big day for hillary clinton? what are you seeing on the ground? >> well, thanks for having me, chris. we do think that we'll be successful tomorrow in new york. i do think that the margin will probably be a little tighter than people might expect, but we
think we're going to pull this out and that is going to be a very meaningful victory, because despite what his campaign may now say, new york is truly a must-win for bernie sanders if he is to contend for this democratic nomination. for weeks after hillary clinton won a series of big states lie ohio and florida, the bernie sanders campaign said, wait until new york. new york is the state we'll begin to mount our comeback. and right now they face a delegate gap of about 220 delegates. new york has enough delegates to make up that difference. if they don't make it up in new york it's hard to see how they have a path forward. it's truly a must-win for senator sanders and if we prevail tomorrow night that will put us that much closer to clinching the nomination. >> and the challenges on your side. the big, ugly number you see in the polls, unfavorables. 56%, i think, of people who are going to vote here. a lot of them democrats, are saying, unfavorable.
you see the numbers we're putting up for the audience right now. favorable/unfavorable in april. 32-56. now 38-51. you can see it's trending the right way but still a big number there. now, why do you think that number persists? >> well, i think that even though we're in a primary right now, you've seen outside groups on the republican side spend millions of dollars attacking hillary clinton already, because she is the can't that they fear in a general election, and lately, unfortunately, despite promising to wage a campaign that would avoid negative personal attacks, the sanders campaign has been getting into the game and you've seen senator sanders question har erers ques qualifications and ability. an important moment in the debate last week, senator sanders pressed on the criticism of hillary clinton of late. asked, you suggest she has been compromised by financial contributions she has received. can you point to a single vote or a single issue where you believe that those contributions have at all influenced her?
and he couldn't name a single example. the reason is because there isn't one. while we know the attackless persist and false criticisms made, in the end, voters see through them. >> at the end of the day, though, money is just a problem in and of itself. even george clooney raising money for you guys this weekend says it's for the whole ticket not just hillary clinton but even he calls the money in the business of politics right now obscene. errol lewis was on the show this morning. he saided is visors from the campaign, this isn't about a lot of money going into negatives. it's that hillary clinton was a woman. did you see them throwing dollar bills at her in the car? why dollar bills? a reference to some kind of sex trade rrceference? and democratic horwhores? a coincidence? yeah, throwing money. talking about congress, not hillary clinton. do you believe there is sexism involved in her negative number?
>> i'll let others make that judgment. i just think in general that senator sanders and his campaign has an obligation to conduct themselves in a way that sends a signal to their supporters we should keep the discussion here in our democratic primary on the issues so that it won't impair our party's ability to come together and unify when the contest is over. 2008, end of a spirited contest between barack obama and hillary clinton, hillary clinton endorsed president obama. gave a stirring speech at the democratic convention. urged her supporters to back him for president over john mccain and i hope and i'm optimistic that senator sanders at the end of this long process will do the same thing. >> donald trump just came out with a new -- what would you call it? i guess a nickname for hillary clinton. crooked hillary, he's saying. now, the merits of it, you can put aside. obviously for you, you're working with the campaign. but this is a window into what is to come if you get the
nomination. how big a challenge do you they will be? it's going to be all personal, by indications of that. >> of course, of course. and i think this is actually the second or third nickname he has cycled through because the others just haven't stuck. look, we are fully aware because hillary clinton has called out donald trump at every turn, condemned every one of his outrageous positions and insults e he has thrown at immigrants and women and muslims that he will return in kind with personal insults, slinging mud and crude personal attacks nap is not going to silence her. he won't put her on her heels. she will continue to call him out and challenge him and donald trump has a lot of work within his own party before worrying about hillary clinton. right now we see a historically divided republican party. if he is in a brokered consequence, enter with historically high negatives. he has a lot of work to do on
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recently, the u.s. navy invited me to witness firsthand the war on isis. four flights and thousands of miles away, i landed on the uss harry truman in the persian gulf. i interviewed soldiers, including several women. here are their stories in a cnn exclusive. this is the u.s. navy's front line in the war on terror in the
persian gulf. her resolve only deepened after the recent blood shed in brussels. >> that's exactly why we're out here. if anything, it gives us that much more purpose and resolve to ensure we're doing things the right way and that we leave this region better than we found it. >> reporter: when you put on your flight gear, what does that feel like? >> it's interesting. it's a routine now. i do it every day. a lot of times i don't think about it. when i sit back and think what does this really mean, i still get goosebumps every time i take a catapult off. >> operation inherent resolve is, by no means, a man's mission. batten is the senior female aviator on this hulking aircraft carrier, ss harry truman. ready to strike isis.
this right here is a bomb. it's not live. often time s these pilots don't know what the specific isis target is until they're already in the air. batten flies an e-2, protecting those jets. her aircraft, the most essential for operations, acts like air traffic control in the skies above iraq. >> for those pilots who are getting the coordinates to drop the bomb, how serious do they take their job? >> we do meticulous planning every day for whatever mission that we're performing and i know they don't take the responsibility lightly. >> orchestrated, coordinated terrorist attacks happening in the west. >> right. >> is that frustrating to you, discouraging, giving everything happening out here in the gulf? >> yeah. i would say it's disappointing.
it's zpoedisappointing we have n beings that would do that to other human beings. on the other hand, it's motivating and is assuring that the mission we're on is very righteous. >> what does ultimately success or victory look like? >> yeah. i think it looks like violent extremism being eradicated. i don't know that we achieve that on this deployment. >> here on uss harry s. truman, there's about 90 of these f-18 per day. when you feel the afterburn, let me tell you, it makes your teeth rattle. >> that is incredible, brooke. >> i mean, it was -- >> what an incredible assignment. >> my 17th year in journalism, the most important to me. my grandfather was in the navy for 43 years. it meant a lot to me, personally. but to be out there, i walked away with such a profound
appreciation. to be -- they're all color coded and to see the guys in the red shirts rolling the ordinances to the f-18s, watching them take off, knowing they were headed over iraq and syria, it was phenomenal. that's just the beginning of a three-part series. >> oh, wow. are you kidding? >> thank you for -- >> are yto remind people you ha floating city of americans rifbing their lives every day. >> resolve. that word sticks with you. >> more on my show today at 2:00 eastern. a lot of news. that was an important look for you. but we've got the headlines, and deeper. so, let's get to it. >> it's a rigged election. >> i find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. >> wre in a battle, nationwide battle for delegates. >> they didn't come out for liein' ted cruz and kasich, no one does. >> come on, act like you're a professional. welcome to the political
revolution. >> i don't think there's been a more important election. >> we made less money in a given year than secretary clinton made in one speech. >> my opponent talks about taking on the interests. where were you? i mean really. devastating earthquake in japan and ecuador. hundreds are dead. thousands more injured. >> rescuers still raise raysing against time. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, michaela pereira and brooke baldwin. >> we have big news for you. pritcally, donald trump doubling down on rnc one day before this very important new york primary. trump, calling out party leaders for what he said was a rigged system. he also lost again. he's upset about t people say
he's whining. trump insists he has been robbed because of the way wyoming went, all 14 delegates to ted cruz. >> that's the republican side. we need to talk about the democrats this morning. hillary clinton is hoping to finish off bernie sanders with a decisive win tomorrow. sanders drawing enormous, enthusiastic crowds in brooklyn, ripping secretary clinton repeatedly for refusing to release the transcripts of her wall street speeches and bernie sanders will join us live in studio in mere minutes. stay right here on cnn. we have the new york primary covered for you only the way cnn can. we begin in manhattan right in front of turump tower with my friend, jason carroll. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, brooke. if history serves as any lesson, expect more sharp criticism about the way those delegates have been awarded. >> they have a system that's rigged. we have a system that's crooked. we have this delegate system,
which is a sham. >> reporter: donald trump doubling down on his war with the rnc and continue iing to criticize ted cruz's ground game in the race toward 1237 delegates. >> the fact that you've taken all these people out and wining them and dining them, nobody does that stuff better than me. i just don't want to do it. >> reporter: the front-runner saying over the weekend lion' cruz can't get the delegates from the votes so he was to get it from the republican bosses. it won't work. tweeting 1.3 million people voted in contests against trump #no whining. >> rnc chairman reince priebus saying they can't alter the rules between now and the convention. and it's up to each state. >> the majority of delegates and you need to be able to play within the confines of the rules to make sure you get there. >> coming on the heels of ted
cruz's sweeping win in wyoming, a state where delegates are won through a convention not a primary. cruz was the only candidate to attend the convention and aggressively campaign in the state. >> wyoming matters. we're in a battle, nationwide battle for delegates. >> reporter: trump weighing in on twitter, as we've seen him do in the past, chris, saying this. liein' ted cruz can't win with all the voters so he has to sell himself to the bosses. i am millions of votes ahead. hillary would destroy him. k, as in kasich. plain-spoken language that seems to appeal to those who support donald trump. >> plain to some, offensive to others. jason, thank you. let's talk about the issues that matter behind all this process we're suffering through in this election right now. chairman of the committee on homeland security, wisconsin republican senator ron johnson.
as yet, no endorsement from you. let's talk about the issues and then we'll get to the politics. >> that's a really good idea. >> thank you very much. national security. this lawsuit, okay, basically what's going to happen here -- it's not a lawsuit yet. congress, if they pass this law that allows citizens or allows for lawsuits by entities against the saudi government for what happened on 9/11, that would be a very big deal. that would make the saudis very angry. the president is about to go there this week. will he hear about it. why do you believe this would be a good idea? >> what's surprising me, why did this all of a sudden become controversial? this was passed unanimously at the end of 2014. the saudi reaction, they're talking about selling potentially $750 billion of u.s. government bonds. there's the problem. america has $19 trillion worth of debt. you have that debt held by foreign governments like the saudis, like china that could really do some real economic
harm. we need to focus on the real problem there, enormous debt and the size of government. >> no question the debt is huge and it doesn't get talked about it enough. this has a foreign policy implication to it that goes beyond fiscal policy. >> right. >> they're saying we're making that threat because you're threatening us. we don't allow people to sue the u.s. government with all the stuff you guys do with your huge footprint. if citizens are responsible, they're the problem. if your companies are, then they're the problem. why aren't you allowing us that same freedom as saudis? those were saudi citizens involved on 9/11 not the government. al qaeda was trying to take us out. why would we have been a part of their own violence? >> again, i'm saying why all of a sudden is this thing controversial? >> because it's very real. it's real right now. >> we'll look into this and see exactly what the administration is saying, what the saudis are saying. from my standpoint if there are people in saudi arabia culpable
for this -- i'm not saying that you freeze all saudi assets. that's what they're concerned about. but those assets that are culpable for this should be held accountable. >> why does that include going after the government there? >> you have to look at it in a very narrow way. this bill attempted to do that. if it doesn't do it in a narrow, focused way, we need to do that. obviously something has come to the fore, or the administration is finally paying attention. we need to focus that so the victims actually do have the rights. >> something that gets talked about, but then fades away. new hampshire. all the candidates were talking about heroin. it's on the march in this country like we've never seen it before. dealers got smart. they made it smokeable, starting to use more synthetics, so it's more addictive. "snl," in my opinion, did a really bad joke this weekend, joking about heroin that's
something that's easier for take for soccer moms and stuff. it's a huge problem. you believe in it very cutely it's a war that has to be fought. we want to talk about the border, we're missing the biggest issue. >> it's not going away from my standpoint. we held two weekends last week, one in washington, d.c., one in wisconsin. as chairman of the homeland security committee, we've held 15 hearings on border security alone. the root cause of our unsecure border is our insatiable demand for drugs. $3,000 a gram. now down to $100 a gram because our borders are so porous. that's $10 a dose. like a craft beer here in wisconsin, fancy restaurant here in new york. >> that's nothing. >> $10 for a glass of beer. that's the problem. you have such an enormous supply feeding that demand. we have to use an all of the above strategy. we have to look at treatment and address that demand side. we've been very effective at
reducing the use of tobacco. i know the same campaigns have not been effective against drugs. we have to refocus our efforts, address the demand side and interdict the supply side as well. >> you haven't taken a stand on a candidate. i won't push you. >> thanks. >> do you think the system is rigged? >> i'm a business guy, never been involved in politics. first thing i learned in wisconsin, grassroots people, people that have been really involved in the party, they select those delegates in each state, different processes. for my standpoint, it has to be an open, transparent process. whoever wins, that's the individual ool be supporting for president. >> it's not dirt sni. >> you need to understand the rules, and they're different in each state. you have a 50-state effort here. that's part of running a campaign. it's a pretty rigorous effort.
>> thank you for talking about what matters on "new day" today. >> appreciate it. >> mick? out of tomorrow's high-stakes new york primary. can bernie sanders keep his momentum going or can hillary clinton, in her adopted home state? watching the stakes fly. good morning, chris. >> good morning, michaela. hillary clinton rolled to the west coast this weekend to race moni and some eyebrows, including from her host, george clooney, called the amount of money raised at his fund-raiser obscene. and sanders returned from a visit with the pope to a huge rally in his hometown of brooklyn. >> you cannot have a super pac raise many millions of dollars from wall street or special interests and then tell the
american people with a straight face that you're going to stand up to the big money interests. not true. >> reporter: the vermont senator is ramping up rhetoric on her campaign. vip ticket prices hit over $353,000. a group of sanders supporters were showering her motorcade with 1,000 $1 bills saturday, clooney admitting he understands the frustration. >> it is an obscene amount of money. the sanders campaign, when they talk about it is absolutely right. it's ridiculous we should have this kind of money in politics. >> sanders praised clooney's honesty, quiping the actor is backing the wrong horse. >> so long as you have candidates like secretary clinton being dependent on big money interests, you won't have
the country supporting all of us. >> i think it's fine only young students have been so enthusiastic for an opponent. shoot every third person on wall street and everything will be fine. >> reporter: hillary clinton was talking up her supporters on friday. >> it's okay to diagnose the problem. you have to be able to solve the problem. >> even cutting loose to latin music at a block party. both candidates are campaigning hard today in new york city. clinton will hold a get out the vote rally in manhattan this afternoon and sanders has a rally scheduled tonight in long island. sanders needs a big upset here tomorrow if he wants a shot at narrowing hillary clinton's lead, michaela. >> he will jonas here in a few minutes, chris. senator bernie sanders will be live in studio on "new day" this hour. big showdown at the supreme
court today as leaders from texas and 25 other states argue against president obama's executive action on immigration. the future of as many 5 million undocumented immigrants resting on this decision. but the recent passing of justice antonin scalia may leave the eight justices with a split ruling. pamela brown is live for us outside the supreme court with much more. pamela, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, brooke. this is a case that not only impacts millions of people but has broad implications for the relationship between the president and congress. the stakes are high. there are a lot of demonstrators out here, for and against the program. those who came out for the program that the obama administration set forth say it will bring 4.3 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows so they can pass a background check, pay taxes, apply for work benefits so that the homeland security can focus
on the highest priority people for deportation. the president said he came up with this program because of congressional inaction. on the other side, those against it say that this is executive overreach at its worst, that it bestows benefits on a class of individuals that congress has refused to bestow benefits on. texas, the state that's leading the charge of the 26 states bringing the lawsuit says it is hurt financially by the program because it will have to spend millions of dollars subsidizing driver's licenses. the death of antonin scalia could have an affect on the outcome. if there's a split, it will continue to be blocked. another issue at play is if texas and these states even have the standing to bring the lawsuit in the first place. if the justices find they didn't, the program would effectively go into place. oral arguments take place at 10:00 this morning.
>> thank you very much. that court is only eight right now, a tie would go against the executive in that case. we'll tell you more about that coming up. some natural disasters still taking their toll in ecuador and japan. series of powerful earthquakes have killed hundreds, injured thousands and the threat is still ongoing. in ecuador, 272 people have lost their lives. that number, as always, is expected to go higher as crews continue to search. we have both tragedies covered. let's begin with cnn's boris sanchez, live in ecuador. boris, what are you seeing down there now? >> reporter: we're seeing a lot of this. take a look at the bridge behind me. we're on ecuador's coast where most cities were impacted by this devastating 7.8 magnitude earthquake. this is the problem with figuring out the total death
toll. the infrastructure has suffered considerably because of this earthquake. weeks of pounding rain coming down because of el nino, weakening roads and this earthquake decimating them. hardest-hit areas are difficult to reach because the roads are impassable. the president of ecuador is actually at the vatican this weekend with a visit there. he cut that short and came directly back here to address the aftermath of this earthquake. there are 10,000 soldiers on the ground right now, digging through rubble. another 4,000 police officers. we're standing across from a police station where we've seen them pour in all morning long since 2:00 am local time. this is a serious effort that will take quite a bit of time to complete. neighboring countries are offering help, venezuela and mexico have offered support to ecuador, obviously ate time of very serious need. michaela? >> those situations certainly stretched resources on the ground locally. thank you so much, boris. two people were found among the
rubble in japan following crippling back-to-back earthquakes. dozens have been killed. more than 1,000 there as rescuers search for survivors. matt is near the epicenter of that 7.3 earthquake. tell us what you know. >> reporter: rescue efforts continue into the evening amidst difficult circumstances. and in the face of continued aftershocks. it wasn't 20 minute ago we felt a 5.8 magnitude aftershock, swaying the ground underneath our feet. these rescue workers are putting themselves at risk, going through rubble, trying to find the nine remaining people trapped according to officials. as if the aftershocks weren't enough, take a look at this house behind me here. this is a good example of the kind of destruction we've seen
throughout our time here. this house sat n a solid concrete foundation. during the earthquake saturday actually started shifting down the hill. the second floor collapsed on to the first. that is what homeowners are dealing with here. you hear the helicopter ahead -- above us right now. the u.s. military providing support at this point to their japanese colleagues with logistical air support as tens of thousands of people will likely spend the night in evacuation shelters here in southwestern japan because of the continued aftershocks and the kind of rubble and damage you see behind me. michaela? >> hard to even understand how they can bear it, the aftershock threat so frightening after you have gone through something like that. matt, thank you. and thank you to boris. for information on how to help the victims in both those quakes, in ecuador and japan, go to cnn.com/impact. brooke? right now, hillary clinton is leading bernie sanders, but can he pull off an upset tomorrow in new york?
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bernie has the aspirations that anybody, even an old democrat like me, would want to achieve. >> isn't he more in line with candidates you supported through the years, congressman? even yourself? >> you bet your life he is, except he can't get it done. don't you think we've been down there, trying to reform the election system, trying to break up wall street, trying to go along with the dodd amendments, doing all these things? don't you think obama has been doing these things? don't you think those republicans have stop us from the aspirations we have? we want an immigration bill, god knows. with all due respect to bernie sanders, nobody can ever think in the house and senate years he has done anything regions latively. >> we'll hear from himself in a few minutes. >> i don't care who speaks for
him. >> i understand. let's get to money in politics. george clooney and his wife, amal clooney, they threw this tar-studded fund-raiser for the clintons and the entire ballot, they were saying. even for a vip table, $353,000. george clooney referred to it as, yes, it's obscene, the money in politics. you agree with thast aren't you throwing fund-raisers for hillary clinton and making serious dough for her? >> if you're talking about unilaterally disarmament that's crazy. if you have to roll over and play dead, saying collecting money, raising money is a terrible, obscene thing and i'm not going to do it, you might as well forfeit the election. the most disgusting thing in public life to call somebody, ask them for money, have them
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and others injured. >> just one day out from the new york primary, donald trump is warning rnc that a rough july is ahead if they do not fix the delegate process that he insists is rigged. meanwhile, democrats are pressing the flash. they are looking for any edge in the critical new york vote. bernie sanders convinced a big upset is possible. very special day today, 120th boston marathon. can you believe it? it kicks off in a few minutes. there will be a lot of emotion there. thousands of runners hoping to conquer the course. you will recall this woman who lost a leg below the knee in the bombings. she is running today, along with other survivors. chris, it will be such an emotional day at the marathon
today, and beautiful day for it. >> the race has always been so important up there, but now it always matters more every year since the bombing. it just shows that boston strong was no fluke. it wasn't just a moment. it's just as real now as it was then. one of the things we have been talking about this morning is the all-important new york primary tomorrow. that's true on the republican side, even more so on the democrat side, you could argue. senator bernie sanders played to another massive crowd, this time in brooklyn. that is his home, where he was born. estimates go up close to 30,000 people on hand. so, what's going to happen tomorrow? what's the level of confidence? why don't we ask the senator himself? here he is, senator bernie sanders. good to have you, senator. >> great to be with you, chris. >> you're going to win tomorrow? >> if the turnout is high, we will win. >> how high? >> very high. one of the disadvantages we have, as you know, is new york state law. independents cannot participate in the democratic party. we usually win the independent
vote 2-1. we're kind of spotting secretary clinton a whole lot in that regard. if voter turnout is high, working people come out to vote, young people come out to vote, we can win this thing. >> you're just back from the vatican? >> yeah. >> you hit the ground running, go to brooklyn, talk 30 minutes. high energy. where is the energy coming from? what is motivating you through this schedule? it's killing us. where is the energy coming from? >> it's coming from a belief that in this day and age, it is absolutely imperative that we change course in america, that we get people involved in the political process, that we stand up to the 1%, that we create an economy that works for all our people. i worry so much about the major crises facing our country. i worry about climate change and what happens to our kids and grandchildren if we don't transform our energy system, worrying about kids leaving college, $50,000, $70,000 in
debt. i'm worried about this country moving toward an oligarchic form of government. we have a handful of -- >> what is hard is figuring out how to solve t one of the things you've been dealing with in this campaign, the criticism of, what are you going to do? it has two prongs where you're involved. one is you've been in congress a long time. >> yeah. >> you've been saying these things for a long time. >> yeah. >> you haven't been able to achieve what you say you're going to achieve now. fair criticism? >> not really. when you're a member of congress you have a certain role to play. i'm proud of my role. i'll compare it to senator clinton's any day. she was in the senate for eight years. major provision of the affordable care act is something i offered $11 billion for community health centers, i'm pretty proud of my record. president is in a different position. the question of how you pay for
it, chris, has got to be put in the context. the last 30 years, there have been trillions of dollars transferred from working families to the top one-tenth of 1%. this is not a poor country. this is the richest country in the history of the world. there's no reason we should have people living in abysmal poverty. >> the question then becomes how do you fix it? you point out free college would help it. but you need to have a plan to make that work. >> yes. >> a lot of economists attack your plan, saying you burst the deficit to levels we've not seen. >> that's not accurate. when you come up with ideas that counter what the 1% want, they'll say how crazy i am. not all colleges, public colleges, universities tuition free. we impose a tax on wall street speculation. not a radical idea. it is done elsewhere. it will raise more than enough money to lower student debt and
make public colleges and universities tuition free. lowering our -- end the loophole so that major corporations can stash their money in the cayman islands and other tax havens and pay not a nickel in federal taxes. >> i'm sure you've been too b busy. you are a frequent either guest or subject on "saturday night live." they had larry david there on "saturday night live" and singling out what they call the yada, yada, yada problem, about how you'll be able to get these things done. how will you be able to break up the big banks? i'll sit them down, ya did. a, yada, yada, break them up. what do you do about that group of supporters who don't believe you can get it done? he can't break up the banks. he can't get free college. it's too hard or he can't pay for it. >> let me respond in this way. if you and i were sitting here five years ago, not a long time. i think the $7.25 minimum wage
is a starvation raise. we have to raise it to 15 bucks an hour. >> i was talking to you five years ago. you were saying that. >> most people would have thought that was a crazy idea. right? fair enough? you wanted double the minimum wage. guess what, california, new york, los angeles, oregon have done it. why? because people stood up and fought for a $15 an hour wage and appealed to the conscience of the american people. gay marriage. ten years ago, would you have believed honestly that gay marriage would be legal in 15 states in this country? probably not. i would not have. what happens when people stand up and say we need to end bigotry. change takes place when people stand up and fight for change. that is the kernel, the heart of what this is about. nothing is radical. these ideas exist in other countries and have existed in the united states. when you were a kid, how much did it cost to go to city university? >> under $1,000.
>> virtually tuition free. if we could do it 30, 40, 50 years ago, why can't we do it america today? the truth is, people on top have enormous economic and political power. i'm trying to change that dynamic. >> bill clinton said, look, i love that these young people are out there, being energized by bernie sanders. that's great. basically his message to them is if you kill one out of every three people who work on wall street, everything will be fine. look, that's politics. it's ugly. that's no surprise. but you know you have a problem with that group of people. you target the banks all the time as the seed of what's wrong with the capitalist system. they would say they are the capitalist system. what do you say to the entrepreneurs, to the young business people? why would they vote for bernie sanders? >> because you can run a business in a way that is profitable. that's what businesses try to do. treat your workers with respect and protect the environment.
there are thousands of businesses who are into social responsibility. yeah, they want to make money. but they're not going to shut down today and move to china. they're not going to destroy the environment in order to do that. what we need -- this is where we can learn something from the pope. that's what pope francis is talking about, morality, creating a world economy based on morality, not just on greed. i agree with him. >> but -- right. but when you use the pope as an analogy, the pope is not a politician, okay? he is shamelessly socialist in terms of his finding. he is way beyond that. his signature expression "speaking foreign language ] he wants to go out and challenge capitalism. that's the pope. >> right. >> a president is not a pope any way you want to look at it. and that is what gives america all of its resources, all of its unique capabilities, all of its unique success. is that engine that you're now saying is broken -- i get the
disparity argument. you would have to be blind not to see it. but do you wind up attacking what makes america great as part of an ability to make it better? >> i do nothing that america is great when the leadership of major final institutions engage in widespread fraud. if your question -- i think your question is how are we going to create wealth without wall street. that's your question. >> right. >> i think we can. i think you can break up these large financial institutions. >> how? >> through section 121 of dodd-frank. go through my legislation. you need secretary of treasury to determine which banks, if they fail, will cause systemic damage to our economy. >> that exists now, though. >> that's right. the law exists now. >> so what will be different? >> i will use it. just because we can do it doesn't mean we are doing it. >> they have the stress tests and the ongoing analysis now.
>> but what happened recently? they failed the stress test. >> yeah. >> when so few financial institutions have so much economic and political power, when their history in recent years have shown them they're into fraud and illegal behavior, i do not think it is a good thing for the future of this country that they maintain the size that they currently have. >> guns, your early rationale on why certain sellers shouldn't be sued is they're mom and pop shops. don't go after a mom and pop shop for the fact that we don't like how guns are used in the hands of wrong people. that's not what newtown's lawsuit is about. it's about going after the major manufacturers, not the mom and pops and do it for their marketing, that they promote the use of these things in video games and otherwise. why did you give such a quick no on whether or not they should be sued on that basis? >> first of all, please understand that we, back in 1988, i ran a campaign for
congress, the only candidate taking on the gun people saying we should ban these assault weapons that are designed only to kill people. that was my view then. that is my view now. i want to see that put away. what i believe right now is, yes, you're right about mom and pop stores. i sell you a gun legally, you go out and kill somebody, should i be held responsible? but this is what i also believe. if you walk into my shop and want 10,000 rounds of ammunition, here it is, chris. that's pretty crazy. i should be held responsible. if i am a gun manufacturer, selling guns into areas where i know they're ending up in the hands of criminals, i should be held liable for that as well. >> the newtown suit is you put them in video games, market them to the young, tell people they're tools of empowerment, they make you cool, make you mighty. they want to sue. do you think they should be able to sue? >> obviously, they should and they are suing. >> well, you said no. >> within a broader context. do i think somebody should be
held liable for selling a legal product? should somebody have the right to sue and make their case? of course they should. >> the newtown families should be allowed to sue the manufacturers on the basis of marketing? sfwh and they are doing that. >> about the judge said yes but many people said you were on the wrong side of that issue. >> if i sell you a legal product, am i liable for the crazy thing that you do with it? i think not. >> i'm trying to get you to clarify it. >> should somebody have the right to sue? anybody can sue for any reason. we'll see how the courts react to that suit. another issue going on right now, the gi bill. what's happening in congress? they have a no roll call vote. sneaky. democraty pool already. they get through this bill that says the following. there is money that -- you know what the bill is. just for you at home. there's money that they're taking that people from the military used to use for their dependents, that they weren't using for housing allowance.
money they needed. now congress is saying we'll take that money and fund other programs. big associations are coming out and saying don't use the gi bill as a piggybank. find your savings somewhere else. you already don't honor your commitment to the troops. where are you on that bill? >> i agree with the veterans association. >> will you fight it? >> absolutely. >> waus it's passing through right now. >> my problem is, there are only 24 hours to a day. but the answer is, yes. veterans are saying there is n money available in a dozen different ways. some of these guys who are pushing this cut are the same people who want to give tax breaks to billionaires. in my view that's pretty crazy. you have to stand by the men and women who put their lives on the line to defend us. you do not make cuts in the housing department which we need. tone. it's more critical, closer than people expected it to be, maybe even you included in that. so, part of that happens in politics. but the concern is going to be if you don't win and you wind up
in the convention, you have a lot of followers who, in their mind -- you know when you're out there. they're not looking for anybody else. have you given a thought yet to what you would do if you don't get the nomination, to keep this massive group of people who believe in you with the party that you say you are beholden to, the democrats? >> first of all our major focus right now -- >> is winning. i get it. >> but i got your question. it's a two-way street. the clinton people are also going to have to listen to what these people are fighting for. and the clinton people are going to have to say, you know, maybe bernie has a point, that we should not be the only major country on earth to not guarantee health care to all people or have paid family or medical leave. and maybe, yes, the billionaire class should start paying their fair share of taxes and maybe, yes, we should break up wall street. it's a two-way thing. i don't control millions of people. the clinton campaign is going to have to make the case to those
young people that, in fact, they are prepared to stand up for some real fundamental changes in this country. that's a case they have not yet been able to make. >> you do not believe that the clinton campaign has said, in any compelling way, that they have what that group of voters, whose #feeling the bern, that they have the solution to those people's problems? >> no, i don't think they have. they're re good at rhetoric and she has moved to the left in this campaign in response to many of the initiatives we have brought forth. not only our supporters but the average person understands when you collect such large sums of money from wall street and special interests, they have their doubts whether the clinton people will stand up to these powerful sources. >> what did you think about the question wolf asked in the debate, can you point to one single action that makes her too closely tied to reality? you didn't have one. >> one was the legislation she ended up voting for.
the question suggests just because somebody gets campaign contributions, do they automatically respond? as you well know it's more complicated than that. so i'm not suggesting money immediately results in a vote or -- either way. but the more important issue, chris, the point i did make, which i believe is the fundamental point, if we know and the evidence is not debatable, that major wall street firms have been operating in a fraudulent manner. if we know that a handful of these firms have incredible economic and political power, should they be broken up? i began this campaign by saying, yes. too much economic and political power, too much fraudulent activity. hillary clinton has not come on board that point of view. >> senator bernie sanders, thank you very much for making the time for "new day." good luck tomorrow. >> thank you. >> you just heard from senato sanders. we'll talk with john king about what to expect tomorrow and why. stay with us. ...a tree that bore the most rare and magical fruit.
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bernie sanders, sitting with you. it's interesting. we want to bring in senior national correspondent john king. the second this guy sat down, my two thoughts were precisely what you also picked up on, which makes me feel smart because i think you're the smartest guy in the room -- no offense, cuomo. >> why would i take offense to that? there are only two guys here. >> essentially your last question. have you ever given thought to if you don't win the nomination and what do you say to your faithful feel the bern followers? let's play that clip and we'll talk on the other side. >> it's a two-way street. the clinton people are also going to have to listen to what these people are fighting for. so, it is a two-way thing. it's not me. i don't control millions of people. but the clinton campaign is going to have to make the case to those young people that, in fact, they are prepared to stand up for some real fundamental changes in this country. and that's a case they have not yet been able to make. >> what did you think about
that, john king? >> it tells me that he has given considerable thought to the question. he does not want to answer the day before the new york primary his side of that. he left the burden on secretary clinton. it's a two-way street. she'll have to address my issues, my people. she will have to reach out to them. she would have a responsibility to say, please join my team. he left the burden on her. it was a pretty thoughtful answer. it's clear he has thought about the question. this is a fascinating challenge for the democrats. as much as we focus on the dysfunction in the republican party right now and the fracturing of the republican party right now, the sanders' movement has created a fracture in the democratic party. he's still competing for nomination, he still has a mathematical chance to get there. it's a hard one but he has a chance. so of course he's not going to say here is what i will do at the convention. he is going to go all the way to the convention. healing in both parties is beginning. you understand the math, getting to the convention. you might still be running but starting to figure it out. sanders will take it all the way to the convention. you have three months between the convention and general election. lot of younger sanders'
supporters say no way. so he's clearly leaving it on her for now. you can see in his reaction he's thinking about this. >> you couldn't ask for better casting. i'm no john king, as you so painfully pointed out. >> you are chris cuomo. >> even i know that this party, democratic party, is in an existential crisis. bernie sanders is the liberal wing of that party. hillary clinton, bill clinton made the modern democratic party, moving it to the center. so, this is the battle of the titans in terms of what that party is going to be. something that is not as clear cut in terms of playing to advantage for john king -- john king for bernie sanders is where he stands on guns. i was very careful in this question. i get the mom and pop thing but the newtown issue is different. they're suing the big manufacturers not for selling you a legal product that you then use like the bad or sick person that you are, but for the
marketing of it. and he said, yes, you should be able to sue for that. >> which is different from what he said the other night. >> and i said, you said no last time. he said hold on, in a broader context. i don't get where he is on this answer, john. help me with it. >> he explained it several times. as a matter of principle, he generally believes if somebody sells you a legal product and you do something illegal with it, that person, that company should not be responsible for your personal individual choice to break the law. he believes that as a matter of principle and also understands the politics that the gun issue for him have been very difficult. what he was trying to say in the end and not changing his principle is sure, he can sue but if he were on the jury, he would vote no. he does not believe it's a valid lawsuit but, sure, they should be able to go to court and do it. this is america. make your case in the courts and see what they say. it's pretty clear if he was on this jury, no, you can't sue people for this. >> do you see it that way? >> i talked to the daughter of
the sandy hook principal. she was extraordinarily frustrated. a hillary clinton supporter. she was very frustrated. they feel very strongly that they should be able to -- and win. sue and win the gun manufacturers. and i think they would include the mom and pop shops in that. ultimately if you're selling 10,000 rounds of ammunition or ar-15 it's not okay. >> the swrunlg said the suit can go forward. we'll see what happens. >> john king, thank you very much. >> see you tomorrow. >> thank you, my brilliant, amazing, handsome friend, chris cuomo. >> oh, please. i never take it personally. here is carol costello, a real news woman, to pick up after the break. i'm petty and small. >> i have to come back tomorrow. prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities.
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