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where it is 11:00 at night. >> great to have you with us. you're watching cnn's special coverage of the new york primary. big wins tonight for donald trump and hillary clinton. cnn projects the billionaire businessman will take the empire state by a wide margin. even though trump was heavily favored in his home state, this is perhaps his most significant and important win so far. >> let's take a look at the numbers, then, shall we? trump far and away the winner with 60% of the vote as you see there on your screen. ohio governor john kasich in second with 25% and texas senator ted cruz in third place with 14%. trump is projected to add 89 delegates to his total, bringing him to 847. here's the thing. here's the goal. he's trying to reach the magic number of 1,237 so he can clinch the party's nomination before july's convention. ted cruz will not win a single delegate in new york because he did not win a district.
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>> that's a big goose egg for ted cruz. trump told his supporters, though, this win was special. >> i have great, great admiration and praise for the city of new york and the state of new york. i can think of nowhere that i would rather have this victory. >> let's talk about the democrats. hillary clinton claiming a big victory in new york's democratic primary, propelling her ever closer to clinching the party's nomination. cnn projects she will triumph over bernie sanders in her adopted home state. >> here are the numbers. hillary clinton, 57% of the vote. bernie sanders, 42%. 15% margin. as for delegates, clinton is projected to add 139 to her total, bringing that to 1,930. she needs 453 more delegates to clinch the party's nomination. >> well, it was a much needed win for clinton after losing
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eight of the last nine contests to sanders. >> in this campaign, we've won in every region of the country. [ cheers and applause ] >> from the north to the south to the east to the west. but this one's personal. >> cnn's mj lee is in new york with more on this. i guess the big news in the last couple of hours was this criticism coming from the clinton campaign about bernie sanders and his destructive path. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: well, first of all, this was a very, very big night for both donald trump and hillary clinton. so much so that i'm willing to bet if ultimately both trump and hillary clinton do end up being their party's nominees, i think there's a chance that they point to last night and the new york primary races as sort of a turning point in their races. why is that?
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for donald trump, the results of new york gives him a better chance now of actually getting to the 1,237 delegates necessary to actually clinch the gop nomination outright and avoid this messy contested convention scenario, which has campaign very much does not want. for hillary clinton, this was an opportunity for her to really stop the narrative that bernie sanders continues to enjoy real momentum in the democratic race. you pointed out and sanders love to point out these days that he has won eight of the nine last democratic races. so for both of these candidates, this was a huge, huge night. and of course something of a homecoming for both candidates as well. trump and hillary clinton both have very deep roots here, and they both launched their campaigns in new york city. so for them to make their victory speeches back in new york city, that was especially personally significant for both candidates. >> okay. mj lee there in new york, thank
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you. joining us here now in los angeles, dave jacobson, a democratic strategyist. also john thomas, a republican consultant and founder of thomas partners strategies. good to have you with us. let's start with donald trump. the big, big night for him. a real comeback after a bad couple of weeks. tonight in his victory speech, a very different donald trump. >> we don't have much of a race anymore based on what i'm seeing on television. senator cruz is just about mathematically eliminated. as you know, we have won millions of more votes than senator cruz, millions and millions of more votes than governor kasich. we've won, and now especially after tonight, close to 300 delegates more than senator cruz. we're really, really rocking. >> so, john, who is this senator cruz of which he speaks?
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no more lyin' ted. we have governor kasich, senator cruz. >> tonight was really a huge tonight for donald trump. but everything he did, let's look at his tie. he normally wears a bright red tie. tonight was blue because he's showing that he's a uniter, right? he can cross over party divides. everything donald trump did tonight was strategic. he's been saying that the establishment is out to get him, and he's now instead of lyin' ted, it's senator cruz. and that's just to highlight the fact that senator cruz is party establishment and donald trump isn't. >> let me ask you this. the never trump, the stop trump campaign, it was all about to trying to keep him below that 50% threshold in new york. they tried. they failed. does this kind of win, this margin of win, does it give him the validation, the momentum he needs for the next contest? >> for sure. it was a blowout victory. i mean everybody was saying is he going to get past 50%? is he going to be able to clinch even 55%? this was an enormous victory and, you know, it sort of eviscerated any momentum that ted cruz had sort of after the
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big wisconsin win. i think it's going to propel him moving forward with significant momentum into maryland, connecticut, pennsylvania, some of these big delegate-rich states. i think he can now make a case, there is a pathway for me legitimately to get to 1,237. >> it's still a steep climb. >> it is, but donald trump reset the narrative tonight. we knew he was going to win new york, but we didn't know by this much of a margin. he needed big momentum as we steam-rolled into california, which is where it all may end, and he got it tonight. >> he picked up the momentum, but let me ask you this. you talk about him, you know, him changing the optics of all this. but the narrative is still kind of tip toed around that idea of if he doesn't get it, it's because he was robbed. he's still keeping that narrative going because it's good for his base. >> it is. he needs his people to stay with him that the establishment wants to stop him from getting it. i think donald trump understands that even if he doesn't get the delegate -- requisite delegate number, if he comes this close,
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he could make it difficult for the party at a convention to strip it from him. >> if i could jump in real quick, i think the other thing that was significant, if you look at turnout, it was astronomical on the republican side. it's tough to say that as a democrat because we didn't break any records tonight. but i think that underscores that donald trump has a message that is resonating with a wide range of voters who normally don't participate in this contest. >> very hard for ted cruz to say i'm the guy that beat donald trump when he can't beat john kasich. but marco rubio who got out of the race back in march, he still has more delegates than john kasich. >> what is john kasich doing in this race? new york is a state as a moderate republican that he should have done better in and he didn't. the fact is he has no statistical chance of getting the number of delegates he needs. he's hanging in this because who knows? >> so he won manhattan. >> yes. >> donald trump, where he lives.
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>> on ott kasich front, the problem he's going to have after tonight with such a weak showing, is his money, he wasn't raising much before. now it's going to completely dry up and it's hard to keep going without money. >> we've got to talk cruz. what about him? how does he rebound? what do you say when he's all but mathematically eliminated? >> i think it's really difficult for cruz coming out of tonight because the never-trump movement was really getting oxygen by some of these, like, delegate stories where delegates were switching over to cruz. but if you're supporting the never trump or you're a big financier, after tonight you're going to get the willys going do i want to keep investing in something, maybe the trump train that can't be stopped? >> let's go on the democrat side now because we heard from hillary clinton. she's well on her way to getting this party nomination. she had the victory speech. she went out there and tried to make this pivot yet again to the general election campaign, and she reached out to the supporters of bernie sanders. listen to this.
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>> it is humbling. it's humbling that you'd trust me with the awesome responsibilities that await our next president. and to all the people who supported senator sanders, i believe there is much more that unites us than divides us. >> but then after the outreach and the cumbaya moment, we had this statement coming from the clinton campaign, from the spokesperson basically telling bernie sanders he needs to stop this destructive path. stop the attacks on clinton's character. it kind of blew the whole moment out of the water, didn't it? >> the two campaigns, they hate each other. it's clear. >> look at you. >> jeff weaver, of bernie sanders' campaign said tonight they're going to take this thing all the way to the convention floor no matter what the delegate math says. they don't like each other.
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>> why would the clinton campaign spokesperson come out? is it just frustration right now? >> i think it underscores the heated rhetoric building up to new york. i think bernie sanders right now has no viable path moving forward to getting to the 12 -- pardon me, the 2383 delegate number. i'm mixing the parties up. the reality is he has a choice. bernie sanders can either embrace the sort of heated rhetoric, the sharpened attacks and continue to rip apart the fabric that holds the democratic together and really hurt his chances moving into the convention to be a part of it, right? or he can pivot back to his more optimistic, hopeful message, which really got -- built the movement around his campaign, and i think he can continue until california. he's got the resources to do that. but i think if he wants to participate in the general election, be part of the party's platform this summer, he's got to move away from these negative attacks. >> you feel they may have hurt him, the negative attacks? >> absolutely. look, there were polls showing that he was closing the gap, and then all of a -- you know, there
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was a poll his campaign put out just days before the election showing him six points behind. but then he loses by a whopping double-digits. i think it really backfired, particularly when he called hillary clinton unqualified. you know, women voters were turned off by that. >> i looked at the new york campaign for sanders here. this was his last stand. he was an outsider. he won in an upset. he threw everything at clinton, everything he had. he went negative. there were some false accusations made by the sanders campaign. he didn't even get close. he's gone back to vermont now for a doi ay to rest. he's made it clear he'll stay in the campaign. that's tonight. is it possible maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, they come out and say we're done. >> i don't think so. he's going to go to california. california is a different kind of electorate than new york. tonight there are two stories for me on the democratic side. on the one hand, former senator clinton won her home state that she represented, okay? on the other hand, you know, secretary clinton always wins with different ethnicities like
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latinos and african-americans. but tonight she stomped senator sanders with whites, which was senator sanders' base. >> another point she made to pick up on the diversity of her win is a point she made in her speech. she's won everywhere. she said that in a speech. she's won in the noshlrth, in t south. she's making that point that she's getting these broad based wins. draw that contrast with sanders. >> sanders was pick making the case i'm picking up steam. i've won eight out of the last nine. she's dominating in democratic strong holds. i think she's building up the collection of voters you need for a general election to be successful. >> as you move forward here, does sanders even have a hope of winning a majority of the delegates? he needs to take california by about 20 points, pennsylvania and new jersey by around 10 points. this is not going to happen. so we heard from the sanders campaign that essentially they're looking at flipping those super delegates. we're getting to kind of hypocrisy after criticizing the super delegates, saying now my
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entire campaign rests on flipping those super delegates. >> that would be a viable option had there been sort of the barack obama, hillary clinton -- she has an enormous lead. she has about 700 delegates now combined with state delegates and super delegates. so for him to sort of mount any effort to peel away those delegates, i think is not realistic at this point. >> the challenge she faces is when she gave that speech at the end of this evening with the victory in new york, it was a general election speech. it was this is america. this is what america is about. for as long as sanders continues in this campaign and makes these attacks, she can't focus on that general election. and that is a problem for her. >> yeah, she has two -- she wants to go to the general election, but she can't. and she has to get sanders' supporters to come on board, but a poll as of last week said 25% of sanders supporters said under no condition would they ever vote for hillary clinton. >> polls are reflective, not predictive, so we'll see what happens. >> he loves saying that by the way. >> thank you for being with us. we'll take a short break. when we come back with cnn's
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now, i don't want you to tell anybody this. keep it shh, but secretary clinton is getting a little bit nervous. >> i wanted to share with you what america has learned over the past few months, and it has nothing to do with a politician winning his home state tonight. it has everything to do with what we've seen in the towns and faces that have been weathered with trouble, joblessness, and fear. >> hello, everyone. welcome back. decisive wins for donald trump and hillary clinton in the new york primaries, moving both candidates closer to their party's nominations. on the republican side, donald trump with a whopping 60% of the vote. john kasich in second with 25%. ted cruz in third place with 14%. >> impressive margin of victory
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for democrat hillary clinton as well as she looks to put the nomination out of reach for bernie sanders. clinton, 57%. bernie sanders, 42%. >> well, new york was plagued by widespread complaints of voting irregularities on tuesday. for more we're joined by dylan buyers. always good to have you with us. before we get to the issue of irregularities. let's talk about the wins themselves. trump and clinton not just winning but winning big. >> yeah. >> what does it mean? >> winning very big. in a way, it doesn't mean anything, and in a way, it means a lot. we've oscillated between two polls in this election, right? we've had this story of donald trump and hillary clinton being the front-runners and being decisive front-runners at that, and at worst what happens is donald trump goes to a contested convention with a huge advantage over ted cruz. the other pool we've voss lated is momentum. bernie sanders having huge momentum, especially in smaller states, saying we've won five out of the last six contests,
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seven out of the last eight, and this causes us all to question just how much hillary and donald trump are the front-runners. what tonight did is it reminded us once again is we always come back to that. we always come back to them being the front-runners, to them winning decisively, and more important than anything -- and you know, ted cruz can cast it off as it's donald trump's home state. it shows the limitations of bernie sanders and ted cruz with their respeck tifb constituencies on each side of the political spectrum. >> let's look forward because there's connecticut, rhode island, maryland, pennsylvania, delaware all to come. these are all good states for donald trump. no good states for ted cruz. i mean as the stop trump guy that ted cruz is billing himself to be, it's not looking good. >> again, this goes back to the problem with momentum or what they call big mo. you can only go -- momentum only matters if you can sustain it into territories like the northeast. if you can sustain it beyond certain small states where you have, like -- where your base
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has a robust voice and where you have big turnout. you have to do better than just some of these small states. you see ted cruz giving donald trump a hard time, saying, it's just your home state. go back and look at what ted cruz was saying when he won texas. he was making a much bigger deal about it. the point is both ted cruz and bernie sanders have been unable to really radically expand their base. so that momentum that they love to talk about can only carry them so far. >> talking about hillary clinton do og well in a state like new york, obviously -- i say obviously but she did well amongst minorities. that's expected, but also doing well with whites on this evening. does this put pay to that question of electability? >> yes, absolutely, in a big way. i would say, a, it sheds light just on the limitations of bernie sanders' electability in a general election. and for hillary clinton, it shows she's starting to make in serious inroads, and that's always been the big question. can she win over those white voters, can she win over the
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young voters that are supporting bernie sanders? there's no question she has a lot of work to do and frankl in her home state of new york she probably should have done better than the margin she took tonight. she still has work to be done, but it's clear that she's the one who is going to be doing that work to win the nomination, not bernie sanders. >> one of the controversies over the past 12 hours or so, there was a huge voter turnout, record turnout for the republicans. big turnout for the democrats too, hundreds of thousands of people. more than 100,000 people went to vote and they found they had been taken off the voter rolls. one voter told us it took him five hours to cast a ballot. >> this morning, i go to the polls. they look for me in their books. i'm not in there. so obviously they offer me an affidavit ballot. it's my right to vote in a normal ballot, so i decided to take it all the way as far as i could basically. so i drove over to forest hills queens county board of elections, and i waited an hour and a half to see a judge. i saw the judge. he immediately ruled in my favor, gave me a court order. i drove 30 minutes back to
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richwood, gave them the court order, low and and behold, i v and my vote counted. >> there was also allegations of fraud and people being bumped off the rolls, and bernie sanders has actually hammered this a couple of times. he's raised a lot of concern about voter irregularities. >> it is absurd that in brooklyn, new york, where i was born actually, tens of thousands of people, as i understand it, have been purged from the voting rolls. >> okay. now, an election that wasn't really about winning the state. it was all about margin. we're talking about 120,000 people, mostly democrats off the voter rolls, a lot of them, it seems were leaning towards bsz bs. what impact does this have moving forward, or does this just go away? >> i think it does have an impact. first of all, bernie sanders is absolutely right. it's absurd not only that this would happen in brooklyn.
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it's absurd this would happen anywhere in the united states of america in 2016. the biggest impact it will have, not to sound like a callous observer of political process -- the biggest impact this will have is on bernie sanders's ability to tell the story that he was robbed. not necessarily that he was robbed of victory, but that he was robbed of a certain margin. he was maybe robbed of a delegate or two. and by telling that story, he is going to be able to reinforce the narrative that the establishment is unwilling to let his movement -- and he has generated an incredible movement -- to let his movement really realize its full potential. that is going to anger voters. that is going to galvanize voters. that is going to allow him, like you were discussing earlier in the show, to take this all the way to the convention even if hillary clinton has the delegates she needs to win. in order to sort of tell a story of hey, look, we're a movement. we're here. the democratic party needs to listen to us, and you can't shut
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us out. >> same argument donald trump is making. >> he's winning. >> at least tonight. >> taime for a quick break. donald trump leads the republican delegate count. hillary clinton is the top democrat. but when you poll all registered voters, both candidates are widely disliked. >> very disliked. >> it's an odd situation. we're going to look into it, next. there are two billion people who don't have access to basic banking, but that is changing. at temenos, with the microsoft cloud, we can enable a banker to travel to the most remote locations with nothing but a phone and a tablet. everywhere where there's a phone, you have a bank. now a person is able to start a business, and employ somebody for the first time. the microsoft cloud helped us to bring banking to ten million people in just two years. it's transforming our world. wrely on the us postal service?
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the race for the democratic nomination is in the home stretch, and victory is in sight. >> thank you, new york.
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we love new york. we love new york. thank you very much, everybody. >> thanks for staying with us, everybody. you're watching cnn's live coverage of the norm primary. i'm john vause. >> and i'm isha sesay. it's just 11:30 here in los angeles. >> hillary clinton and donald trump taking big steps toward their respective party's nominations with impressive victories in new york. trump, 60% of the vote, kasich with 25%. ted cruz, third place there, 14%. >> among the democrats, clinton is celebrating her win in the empire state. the margin of victory over bernie sanders even better than many of the recent polls predicted. clinton with 57% of the vote. bernie sanders, as you see there, 42%. >> we're joined now by medullary elder, a conservative analyst guys, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we're going on the assumption now that donald trump and hillary clinton are most likely going to be their party's
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nominee. this general election, if we get to this point, will be an unpopularity contest. let's look at some of the numbers. trump has an historic level of negative ratings, 57%. i mean that's the highest for some polls that it's ever been. hillary clinton, not far behind. we should add to that, she is at 52% when it comes to her unfavorable ratings as well. matt, first to you. how do the democrats get to the point where they're likely to nominate someone who is so widely disliked. >> well, let's remember that -- that's a loaded question, right? let's remember that obama's numbers are starting to go up now, right? i think that's in comparison to when we see the republican candidates. then i think the same thing is going to happen -- i know medullary agrees wilarry is going to agree with me. let's keep in mind in almost all the polls, hillary beats trump by almost double-digits. >> well, hillary is very, very unpopular, and i think when the e-mail scandal gets cooked up,
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because i think there's going to be a criminal referral by the fbi to the doj, it's going to get even worse. but you're right. you haven't talked about the numbers between hispanics. but the good news is the election is not until november. he's got plenty of time to work -- >> you can't get much further. >> i can't believe that 30% of people view him favorably. >> trump's got a secret weapon. it's vee vaughn ca. it's eric, and it's donald jr. say what you will about donald trump, he's raised very good kids that respectful, that are humble, and he can't be that bad of a guy if he's raised these kinds of kids. >> i don't think that has anything to do with being president at all. >> it has to do with likability. >> his likability is very, very low. he has the lowest unfavorability rating of any candidate. >> within the margin of error -- >> actually "the wall street
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journal" poll that came out two days ago, he's at 65. >> as you mentioned that "wall street journal" poll, matt, let me ask you this. it says that according to those numbers that hillary has a 56% negative rating with voters, which is up five points from last month. that must worry you. >> well, i mean these bernie sanders attacks have taken a little bit of a toll. i think the story that larry said which is going to be proven to be fault about the department of justice -- we'll talk about that in a few more weeks. that story has been out there a few weeks. i do expect as we get into one-on-one, hillary versus trump, i expect those numbers to get better. can we talk about how great she did tonight? >> go right ahead. put it in context. >> a couple weeks ago we were talking about bernie sanders having all this momentum. as soon as we got to new york, that seems to have changed. i think over the next week or two, this is all going to be locked up on the democratic side. >> for my perspective, i know mark will agree with this, when you look at the exit polling, it shows people are overwhelming concerned about the economy. they're concerned about income
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inequality. it's all about the economy. hillary is running for the third term of obama. like it or not, mark, people feel the economy is on the wrong track. what's her argument for four more years. >> a lot of people are voting for trump, they're not voting on the economy. >> that's false. >> let's move on. ted cruz, not a good night for him. he walked away with absolutely zero. big goose egg for him. zero delegates. but now he's out there. he's trying to cast himself as the outsider. >> this is the year of the outsider. i'm an outsider. bernie sanders is an outsider. both with the same diagnosis, but both with very different paths to healing. >> larry, who is ted cruz? is he the party uniter? is he trump's best friend? this guy changes every couple of months. >> just a little while al, he
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was the alternative to donald trump, the establishment guy. now he's back on the outside again. i'm not quite sure who he is. all i know is that he does not have a path towards winning the nomination outright. the only way he can win is if there's a contested convention. and when you look at the polls, most republicans feel that the guy that had the most votes, the most delegates and won the most contests should get the nomination even if he doesn't come to cleveland with the majority. >> that's true. >> matt, as you talk conventions, i want to toss it over on the dems. the convention isn't shaping up to be all love and cuddles on the democratic side of things either considering bernie sanders' ploy or strategy. >> bernie sanders went off to vermont and it's he who has to make a decision at some point, does he want to compete attacking hillary potentially or address the issues and hope those issues go on long after his candidacy. that's a decision he has to make. my expectation is sanders is going to come around. he's going to take some time to think about it. the party will be unified at the convention. >> is this a choice being ralph
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nader or being a legacy -- >> i did hear that today. look, you have to make a decision. sanders is not a dumb guy. he knows e not going to win at this point. so what is his legacy? >> the problem you have is in one in four of bernie sanders supporters say they don't care. they're not going to vote for hillary. so bernie may do kumbaya, but a lot of his supporters are very upset, and they believe all this stuff about the wall street people ripping them off. they believe the stuff about hillary being bought, about the whole thing being rigged. >> fair amount of truth to that except for the fact in the last election -- >> i knew there was going to be an exception. i saw a "but" coming, and it 'twas a big one, too. >> two times when hillary was running against obama, the percentage of hillary supporters who said they wouldn't support obama was much higher. they ended up supporting obama. >> this is the victory speeches tonight for both clinton and zrum donald trump. it was really interesting. take a look at this. hillary clinton is surrounded by the democratic party. you've got bill de blasio, the new york mayor, governor cuomo, a whole bunch of party people
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there. on the trump side, it's just his campaign staff. >> and family. >> and family. but clearly, you know, hillary has the backing of the party. she's, you know, essentially bringing them together if you like. trump is still going to have a lot of trouble. how hard is it to run a general election campaign if the party isn't behind you? >> it's going to be very difficult, but i think the party will be behind him. come november -- >> you really think so? >> i really do. come november, looking at somebody who as i pointed out with a third term of obama, somebody who supported the iran deal, somebody who is going to raise taxes, somebody who is going to regulate more, somebody who is going to continue this march towards medicare for everybody, i think there will be a great deal of enthusiasm for somebody like donald trump, who is a populist. he's not a fiscal conservative, but that's where the country is. the country is aligned with him about trade, and he's more against the iraq war than even bernie sanders is. he even said that the bush administration lied about it. i mean my goodness, he's going to be kind of hard to fight. >> matt -- >> well, you know, i didn't hear a lot about trump's actual positions, but let's remember that trump spend a lot of time saying that he was one of the
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first people against the iraq war, and then they went back to the tapes and it turned out he was for the iraq war. >> no, he wasn't. >> yes, he was. he actually said -- >> he said, well -- that's sort of what he said. >> with that, we'll -- >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> okay. look at that. donald trump's victory in new york brings him closer to the party's nomination. we will speak to a trump supporter and a stop-trump activist when we come back.
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well, it's looking more likely that donald trump and hillary clinton will be facing off against each other in november. for the republicans, donald trump with a decisive 60% of the vote in new york. >> hillary clinton's double-digit win in new york is casting some doubt on the future of bernie sanders' presidential hopes.
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clinton winning her adopted home state with a 57% of the vote. >> trump's big win moves him closer to the republican nomination. joining us is trump supporter james lacy, the author of the tax ifornia. good to have you both with us. rob, to start with you, as we look at the situation and donald trump's overwhelming win in new york, you've got to ask the question it looks pretty hard for ted cruz to come back, and that stop trump coalition to gain victory. >> well, i think we need to remember we're only two weeks removed from that coalition having a phenomenal night of success in the state of wisconsin. there are states ahead next week, and then indiana in two weeks and finally the big show comes out here to california, where we are this evening. and there are almost twice as many delegates still at stake in california. so there's a long way to go. and from the polling that we see in california, we're very confident that there's a path
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here to beat trump for most of the delegates that are going to be available here. >> wisconsin, that was a lifetime ago. you know, it was such a long time ago, and that does look positive for donald trump, at least in the next couple of states. mitch mcconnell said this today. when a nominee gets to 1,237, he will actually be the kind. if he does not, there will be a second ballot. about 60% of the delegates who are bound on the first ballot will be free to do what they want do on the second ballot. i'm increasingly optimistic that there may actually be a second ballot. when you've got the leader of the senate saying i really hope there's a second ballot to deny donald trump the nomination, he then walked it back and said he was explaining the process. but this is a process. how does donald trump win over the party establishment at this point? >> he just has to keep winning primary after primary because the establishment just doesn't want to believe it. you know, rob just said he thinks the polling in california looks good for the anti-trump forces. but, you know, rob, that's just
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not true. the cbs poll that just came out shows that donald trump has 50% of the vote in california. your premise is that he has 35%. you're looking at an old poll that came out around the time of wisconsin primary. the reality is that trump is 18 points ahead in this state, and that he wins in every demographic category within the republican party -- old, young, women, men, asians, hispanics in the republican party. this is what's going to happen. as a result of this new york election, the big momentum is going to come, and it's only going to get better in the later primaries for trump. >> jim, why would there be momentum? he won his home state tonight as would be expected. so tonight he performed the way he should perform in his home state. now we go back to other states where the coalition that assembled in wisconsin can reassemble itself, and that would primarily, i'd say, look next in indiana.
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california, like the cbs poll in outlier to the average that has existed for two very reliable polls in this state. plus, and i suspect you are too, i'm seeing polling in seats across the state. i see the 25% of republican voters who are absolutely mortified about donald trump and are not going to vote for him. there's real opportunity for ted cruz to grow here in many congressional districts. remember, it's congressional districts here, just like in new york. and john kasich may end up being viable in some bay area districts. >> it's not just like new york. in new york, you have a situation where two candidates can get delegates out of a congressional district. in california, it's winner take all. the outlier is the poll you're relying on, which is the field poll. my landslide enson poll -- >> i'm relying on the real clear politic average which includes the l.a. times poll as well. >> not the latest poll. >> let me bring this point to your attention. i hear what you're saying, that
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the stop trump coalition still feels good about its chances, but how do you feel with the fact that most republican voters seem to agree with donald trump? a recent cnn poll found that 60% believe that if no candidate gets a majority the one with the most support and delegates should be the nominee. how do you go against the will of the party? >> that's about process because that's what appeared to seem fair to most people. it's actually a reasonable conclusion to probably come to. however, those are not the rules. and a majority of republican voters have not supported donald trump, and there's the polling showing that they don't continue to support donald trump in a majority. the average in california, for instance, is about 38%, 39%. that's a plurality, and that's what he has successfully been able to use throughout this process. but as the field has narrowed and we get out of his home state of new york, he still has a lot
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of challenge to continue to win delegates with that mere plurality. so those are the rules. trump needs to win by those rules if he's going to be the nominee. look, i'll be the first one to agree. if he goes to cleveland with the magic number of 1,237 to be the nominee, then he should be. he will have earned it. but until then, the rules are in play, and he needs to play this game effectively as well as everybody else, including winning at the polls but also winning in conventions and making sure he's courting delegates because that's the way the process works. >>le well, rob, you're ignoring that 100,000 democrats switched their party affiliation to republican in pennsylvania. 20,000 democrats switched their party affiliation in massachusetts. in california, voter registration is up 20% right now, and you can't tell me that that's because -- >> we're hearing from people that are re-registering republican to vote against donald trump. >> let me finish. if they want to come into the
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california republican party, you and others have presided over the most precipitous decline in republican party registration in history. over the last two decades, republican party registration has gone to 27% in this state and you've been a part of that. i'm going to tell you something right now. donald trump is going to bring new registrants to this republican party, and he's going to reverse for the first time in two decades -- he's going to reverse this trend downward. i think you're going to see that by june 7th -- >> okay. >> -- we're going to have a candidate that has enough delegates to win that nomination. >> all right. >> could we have you guys back to continue this discussion because we would like to keep this going. we'd like to have you guys back because we're running out of time. it's a good discussion to have. thanks. we appreciate it. >> thank you, guys. cnn special elections coverage continues in just a moment. just ahead, one of the stars of hbo's film confirmation talks about the possible effect on
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decisive impact on the u.s. judicial branch. right now, president barack obama is facing opposition over his nominee to fill a supreme court vacancy. >> back in 1991, there was a different political fight over the nomination of supreme court justice clarence thomas, a new hbo film relives that high stakes drama. earlier, i spoke to one of the stars. >> buckle up. >> it's great to have you with us. you play clarence thomas in the hbo film "confirmation." >> this is a circus. a national disgrace. from my standpoint, it's a high-tech lynching. >> some critics are calling this a hollywood hit job on justice thomas. does this film take sides? >> i don't think so. what we tried to do, especially what i tried to do was show his humanity. he's a man who was at the pinnacle of his career, who was ascending to the summit of his career and his legal profession,
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and something from the past came back and challenged it, you know, challenged the opportunity for him. >> how does that chapter from 25 years ago, the 1991 confirmation hearings, how do they resonate in the context of the current supreme court battle that's playing out right now? >> right now, as we're in an election year, you know the impact of that is profound. you realize in moments like this that your vote does matter and actually not voting matters because you are giving over to someone else deciding what happens in your life. >> let's talk a little bit more about this moment wherein in race for the white house and the rise of someone like donald trump. what do you make of all of it? what has this revealed about america today? >> sometimes it can be very helpful to have a man like donald trump in the race because it makes it very clear the
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differences of opinion and political viewpoint and makes it very easy for people to make a choice. either you support racism and just against the whole idea of what religious freedom is about, all the things that we hold dear in american culture and in the constitution, and you see a threat in the policies this man is espousing, if you don't believe in those american values, you should vote for him. if you do, you need to protect those american values by making sure that someone like that does not attain power. >> you were a major fund-raiser for president obama in the past. where do you stand on the democratic candidates right now? have you made a decision about who to throw your support behind? >> i think they would both serve the communities well. the policies are there. the community development legislation going all the way back to the '90s and the clinton
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administration, i've actually used to rebuild my community in new orleans, where i put together community development corporation and took advantage of that legislation where you can access federal dollars so that you can actually develop your community. i believe the 21st century social justice movement is economic development. i believe that you give a person a job, you can stop bullets even. you can stop some of the violence. and so that legislation and some of the policies that secretary clinton has been a part of in the past and still continues to be a part of is very helpful for the community. senator sanders has great philosophical ideas. i want to see how he's going to put it in policy. so this specifics of what he wants to do, his message is very inspirational and aspirational, but being a middle-aged man, i kind of want the meat on the bones. i want a bit more practicality.
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there's give and takes on both sides, but the most important thing is their policies are going to be more helpful for underserved communities than anything i see on the republican side. >> it's such a pleasure speaking to you. thank you so much for making time to speak to us and share your insights. >> thank you for having me. really appreciate it. >> you're watching cnn's special election coverage live from los angeles. i'm isha se shea. >> i'm john vause. the news continues with rosemary church and air role barnett on the east coast right after this. courtyard, the official hotel of the nfl,
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♪ we can't let you download... uh, no thanks. i have x1 from xfinity so... don't fall for directv. xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. i used to like that song. great to have you all with us. decisive wins for donald trump and hillary clinton as they move closer to a potential november showdown for the white house. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm errol barnett. we are steering cnn's special coverage of the new york primaries for the next hour. and, yeah, donald trump says that it's not even much of a race anymore. he is celebrating an overwhelming win there in his home state. meantime, hillary clinton with a better than expected victory
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over bernie sanders. >> now, it's always about the numbers, so let's take a look at them. hillary clinton with 57% of vote. bernie sanders has 42%. clinton is projected to add 139 delegates to her total. that brings her to 1,930. she needs 2,383 to win the party's nomination. >> and now she's captured some of his momentum. some are saying this is a major turnaround for clinton after losing eight of the last nine contests to sanders, and now she's begun her appeal to his supporters. watch. >> that you'd trust me with the awesome responsibilities that await our next president. [ cheers and applause ] >> and to all the people who supported senator sanders, i believe there is much more that
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unites us than divides us. >> and an impressive margin of victory for donald trump in his home state. trump far and away the winner with 60% of the vote. ohio governor john kasich in second with 25%. and texas senator ted cruz in third place with 14%. now, trump is projected to add 89 delegates to his total, bringing him to 847. he needs 1,237 to win his party's nomination. >> you should all know this by now or at least write some of that down. listen here as trump says the republican nomination is all about his. >> we have won millions of more votes than senator cruz, millions and millions of more votes than governor kasich. we've won, and now especially after tonight, close to 300
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delegates more than senator cruz. we're really, really rocking. >> all right. so let's turn now to cnn's mj lee in new york with more on the primary results. so, mj, convincing wins as we've been telling everyone from both donald trump and hillary clinton. and with math apparently on their side, how likely is it that they will both reach the necessary delegate count in the contests ahead to clinch their party's nomination? >> yeah, that's right. this was a very big night for both donald trump and hillary clinton. both of the candidates really needed this win. they needed to come into new york and essentially show their rivals that they were well on their path to clinching their party's nomination. and for both trump and clinton, this was sort of a moment of a sweet homecoming. as you know very well, trump is a very well known figure in new york state and new york city. he was born in queens. the trump name is almost
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everywhere around new york city. and for hillary clinton as well, she was a new york senator here for many years, and she now owns a home here. and so for both of them, i think these victories were especially sweet and especially meaningful. but when you talk about the delegate math, this is very important because heading into tuesday, i think for trump and his campaign, the big question was how big of a margin could donald trump have? there were, remember, 95 delegates that were at stake on the republican side, and he ended up getting most of those delegates. so heading into the rest of the week, he now can say that he is well on his way to getting the republican nomination outright, which of course means that he is avoiding a contested convention heading into the republican convention this summer. and similar for hillary clinton. look, she has always been well ahead in the delegate race. however, she now gets to say that bernie sanders no longer
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really has that momentum. he has been out there saying for a while that he has won eight of the last nine democratic contests, and she essentially gets to say, heading into wednesday, that she has sort of stopped bernie sanders' momentum right in his tracks. >> worth noting too that trump didn't actually win manhattan, his home turf. but i guess in the end, it didn't matter. but, mj, if we do see trump and clinton going head-to-head, and it is looking that way, but you can never make these assumptions. but how is that going to play out if they do end up being the nominees for each of their parties? what do the various polls tell us? >> right. well, we have certainly gotten many previews of a potential trump versus clinton fight come the general election in november. remember, the two candidates have basically been treating each other as the presumptive
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nominees for a while now. clinton, when you listen to her talk on the stump, she often now goes after donald trump, saying that he is a divisive figure, saying that he doesn't really represent american values of being inclusive and bringing people into the fold. donald trump meanwhile has also been going after clinton pretty hard, saying that she has honesty issues, saying she's not trustworthy. so i think the two are actually -- would be excited are already preparing and have been preparing to go after one another. for hillary clinton, i think taking on donald trump as a republican nominee, that would actually be a good scenario. polls show that john kasich or ted cruz would probably fare better against hillary clinton than donald trump would. and i think the big question for donald trump going forward is if he does get close to getting that nomination and he is getting there, getting closer and closer to that point, can he bring the parties together? can he say to the republican party, look, i'm getting closer to becoming the nominee.
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so support me. give me the backing i need to really take on hillary clinton well. >> yeah, it's going to be an incredible race once it gets down to one on each side, and people here in the united states and of course our viewers right across the globe watching this very closely. mj lee, many thanks to you. great to talk to you from new york. >> good to see you. >> joining us now from los angeles, david jacobson, a democratic strategist and campaign consultant. you see him on the left. >> also in l.a., john thomas, a republican consultant and founder of thomas partners strategies. welcome to both of you gentlemen. >> john, let's start with you. this was a real win for donald trump. it puts him closer than anyone on the republican side to the nomination. is it time for the republican establishment to stop resisting him now? >> yeah. tonight what donald trump did was he reset the narrative in this race to prove that he has big mo as we head into the
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following states and really the make or break for donald trump, which is going to be california. and so what he did really smartly tonight is we saw a shift in his rhetoric. he started instead of calling ted cruz lyin' ted, he called him senator cruz. and that's to underscore the fact that donald trump wants the republican party and the republican voters to know there is only one antiestablishment candidate. look, i think the party is going to have a really hard time if donald trump picks up more and more steam to block him from the nomination. >> and, dave, it seems mathematically impossible for bernie sanders at this point to win the democratic nomination, but he's still insisting he will be in the race right up to the summer convention. it's actually a thorn in the side of clinton. she has reached out to his supporters. how likely is it in the long run that they will eventually come on board if she's nominated? >> look, had bernie sanders won new york, it would have been the biggest political earthquake of the decade, right? i mean this was a devastating blow for his campaign. there's no doubt about it.
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i think, look, clinton's objective is to capitalize on the momentum from new york, win all these states next week in the northeast, connecticut, delaware, rhode island, pennsylvania, and do whatever she can to not alienate the bernie sanders supporters. you know, we had the same challenge in 2008 where everybody said after hillary clinton got out of the race, oh, it was a select set of voters for hillary clinton who are not going to support barack obama. we even saw polling that indicated that. but over the course of the general election campaign, when voters had a choice between boeb or john mccain, they swiftly moved over to barack obama. i think as long as hillary clinton doesn't sort of alienate, you know, bernie sanders' supporters moving forward, i think she'll be able to do precisely what barack obama embraced in 2008. >> dave, i respectfully disagree. first of all, 25% of bernie sanders supporters in a poll said under no conditions would they ever support hillary
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clinton. bernie sanders supporters sport him not just on policy, but they support him because they fundamentally believe there's too much money in politics and wall street and the establishment is controlling our politicians. the fact is hillary is beholden to wall street and sanders people believe that and donald trump isn't. so i think hillary has a much more unique challenge than barack obama did. >> let me ask you both what you expect to happen next week, the next super tuesday contest where five states head to the polls. what are the essential points we should be looking out for? >> well, i think, look, pennsylvania is the most delegate-rich state, and i think that was one place where bernie sanders might have had a possible pathway to sort of running up the score against clinton. but i think because of her commanding victory in new york, it's going to be hard for him to make a case that he's viable moving forward, that there's sort of a pathway for him to get to the 2,383 threshold to get the nomination. i think slowly but surely, you know, his national poll numbers are going to start to dip. i think his fund-raising is going to start to lag, and i
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think his case that he's got a pathway moving forward is increasingly going to become more difficult. >> you know, it's interesting. despite trump's big win in new york, he's still insisting the system is corrupt. i want to take a listen now to what he had to say about that very issue tuesday night. >> nobody can take an election away with the way they're doing it in the republican party. and by the way, i am no fan of bernie. but i've seen bernie win, win, win, and then i watch and they say he has no chance of winning. so they have their super delegates. the republican system is worse. >> okay. john, how long will he keep pushing this line as he builds on his lead in the delegate count? it's clearly resonating, though, with some voters, isn't it? >> yeah, rosemary. i think he's going to push this all the way until he thinks he wins the nomination, has it locked down. he's doing it for two reasons. one, it's an insurance policy in
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case he doesn't win outright. he has an issue he's going to take to the convention. and secondly, look, this is on the -- certainly on the republican side, this is an election about outsiders. you're seeing even ted cruz tonight start saying that he and bernie sanders both have something in common because they're both outsiders. so whoever can claim the mantle as being the real outsider in this race is going to have a distinct advantage. i think beerwe're going to see narrative going all the way to the convention. >> just quickly, john, why is john kasich still in this thing? >> that is a great question. tonight was his night to shine because obviously new york might -- a moderate republican might appeal to new york voters. he didn't get it. i think the problem he's going to have going forward is people are going to ask that exact question. he can't win, but here's the real qui real kicker. he hasn't a good fund-raiser
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tonight. he needs money to keep going. >> republican consultant john thomas and davejacobson, thank you to both of you. there will be a lot more discussion in the weeks ahead. >> thanks for staying up late for us, guys. we appreciate it. >> now with her victory in new york, hillary clinton is shifting her strategy. what's next for the democratic front-runner? more on that after this. >> you proved once again there's no place like home. th'll always be our babies. so there will be things to keep us up at night. will they find happiness? reach their potential. stay safe. fall in love. but tonight johnson's can help with a bedtime routine clinically proven to help them fall asleep faster. and stay asleep longer. there will be things to keep us up. but tonight, we sleep.
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and that was the moment the empire state building in new york lit up in red to signify donald trump's victory in the republican primary. >> yeah, trump had a commanding 60% of the vote in his home state. ohio governor john kasich in second with 25%. and texas senator ted cruz in third place with 14%. >> now, trump spoke to supporters at trump tower in new york just a few minutes after the polls closed. he says it's not even much of a race anymore. >> and then on the democratic side, a major win for hillary
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clinton as she stopped sanders' string of recent victories. brianna keilar reports clinton's focus is shifting now to the general election. >> reporter: hillary clinton savoring victory here in her home state of new york and trying to pivot yet again to the general election. talking as if the democratic nomination is all but wrapped up, she said that the race for the nomination is in its home stretch. she said victory is in sight, something her top aides have been reiterating. and she made an overture to bernie sanders' supporters. >> it's humbling that you'd trust me with the awesome responsibilities that await our next president. [ cheers and applause ] >> and to all the people who supported senator sanders, i believe there is much more that unites us than divides us.
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>> reporter: i'm told by a source close to the campaign that many in the campaign were upset, even incensed recently by what they see as increasingly personal attacks by the sanders campaign against hillary clinton. but at the same time, i'm told the campaign is trying to keep its eye on the prize, the nomination, and trying to urge its backers not to ratchet up some of this rhetoric. >> brianna keilar there, cnn senior reporter for politics, dylan byers joins us now. trump and clinton are the clear front-runners after today, but which candidate does this new york win help more? who gets a bigger boost? >> well, look, i think donald trump certainly got an enormous boost just solely in terms of where his campaign was heading into new york and where it's going heading out of new york. for donald trump, the last two weeks have really been about hitting the reset button. he, you know, got rid of some
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staff, hired paul manafort. he's really sort of changed his focus in terms of sort of corralling as many delegates as he can heading into that supposedly contested convention. by winning new york and by winning it so handily, he's able to create a narrative that he might be able to get to this convention with the 1,237 delegates that he needs or he'll at least get there just short of that. it's very hard to see now how senator cruz can get there and be on more sound footing than trump. trump basically his in the 2.0 stage of his campaign and that gives him a lot of significant momentum. you can see a scenario where he can sort of barnstorm through the rest of these states. so for the cruz campaign, it's about hitting the reset. i don't want to undersell how significant this was for hillary clinton. she needed to shut out bernie sanders, which is what she did. again, now she's starting to pivot or at least try to pivot
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once more toward a sort of general election stance. and i think winning big in new york has enabled her to do that. >> and donald trump 2.0 seems to have removed all of the insults with this software program as he referred to his opponents by their official names rather than coming up with creative ones. now, senator sanders, he railed against the voter irregularities that took place, estimating roughly 125,000 people were turned away in brooklyn. there is an investigation into it. but if you look at the numbers, he would have lost even if all of those people would have voted for him. so where does sanders go from here? >> well, look, he would have lost even if those voters had gone for him, and we should also point out that it's not necessarily the case that all of those voters would have gone for him. we don't know how many of those voters were sanders supporters and how many of them were clinton supporters. where sanders going from here, he's going to the convention. you know, he's got tons of money. he's created a movement, or at
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least he's tapped tiny a veinto significant movement in this country. it's not like he packs it up and leaves solely because he can't win big states like new york. but what he's going to have to ask himself now is does he continue sort of going more and more negative against hillary clinton, or does he try and continue a sort of more positive message? because what sanders has been doing for so long, he has been railing against the establishment. he's been railing against wall street. he's now starting to rail against hillary clinton and be somewhat dismissive of her. you know, it's not clear that that's going to move him past where he needs to go. he talks about momentum. right now his momentum is in smaller states. if he really wants to -- if he's really serious about taking this to the convention as his campaign manager said earlier tonight, he's going to have to expand his base and show that he can win states like new york, and that's not what he did. in fact, hillary clinton made inroads with some of his voters in new york state. so he's got his work come out
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for him, no question. >> and the fact that clinton was able to win over some sanders supporters, perhaps, is the most damaging aspect of the political climate and landscape for the senator. cnn's senior media reporter for media and politics, dylan byers, thanks for joining us from l.a. >> sure. >> and as we just touched on, the sanders campaign is blasting new york state's board of elections over reported voting irregularities. the board stripped 126,000 democrats from voting rolls in brooklyn. its executive director defended the removal saying this. most of the voters were inactive and didn't respond to notices, or they moved out of the area. >> now, meanwhile, sanders said other new yorkers, not only democrats, were also blocked from voting. listen. >> almost 30% of the eligible voters, some 3 million new yorkers, were unable to vote today because they had
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registered as independents, not democrats or republicans, and that makes no sense to me at all. people should have the right to participate in a primary and vote for their candidate for president of the united states. >> and as we just discussed, bernie sanders is now looking forward to the primaries next week, which are centered mainly in the northeastern u.s. >> cnn's john king ran the numbers and shows us why sanders is optimistic. >> we have contests in rhode island and connecticut next week. rhode island is an open primary, sanders best state if you think about past states. but it's a relatively small basket of delegates. connecticut is a state that sanders campaign said it will compete in. the clinton thinks it will win. the big surprise is snep and maryland. we think about that contest in it y 2008, the interesting thing this is barack obama winning the african-american vote, winning in the philadelphia suburbs.
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the darker blue is hillary clinton, who won the state. it will be interesting to see if we get a bit of a flip this side as bernie sanders tries to sell his economic and especially trade message. this is the key test for senator sanders. if he loses in pennsylvania with the blue-collar message, this is a zeesent fit for his message. if he can't win in pennsylvania, you expect hillary clinton, obama carried maryland in 2008. it doesn't want to pop out for me there. there we go. obama carried maryland in 2008 quite handily. you would expect secretary clinton, based on what we've seen, african-american voters, la tee dmoe voters, to do well here. pennsylvania, the big test for senator sanders next week on the democratic side. hillary clinton believing, wolf, that if she continues this trek up here in this part of the country, she believes the math is insurmountable now. she thinks it will be even more so next week. then just quickly on the republican side, much like secretary clinton does, you know, donald trump essentially has done very well in this area of the country. so donald trump thinks a big win tonight projects to him running the board and winning all five
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next week. and the big challenge, ted cruz shut out tonight in new york. john kasich getting only a few to a handle of delegates. can they slow trump down? can trump, like he did tonight, win 80%, 90% of the delegates in these states? if he does, he has a conceivable chance to get there or get really close by the convention. >> john king breaking down the numbers for us there. sometimes all this political math can be a little daunting, but our colleagues at cnn.com have broken it all down for you. for a clear explanation of the delegate count, find the special page at our website, cnn.com/politics. >> coming up next, we will take you to the trump headquarters in new york where he continues to blast the republican party's delegate process. >> thank you, new york. we love new york. we love new york. thank you very much, everybody.
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the race for the democratic nomination is in the home stretch, and victory is in sight. >> hillary clinton surrounded by supporters there, celebrating a decisive double-digit win over bernie sanders in the new york primary. take a look at the numbers here. hillary clinton gathered 57% of the vote with bernie sanders at 42%. you see the difference is roughly 250,000 votes as well. >> and clinton, of course, moving closer than ever to mathematically eliminating sanders from the race. she's counting on her momentum
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from new york to extend into next week's primaries in connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania, and rhode island. >> now, of course, donald trump's crushing victory in his home state isn't stopping him from going after his own party. >> jim acosta, our senior white details from the trump s the - headquarters. >> reporter: donald trump scored a major victory in the new york primary. that will result in a massive haul of delegates for his campaign. trump blew out ted cruz and john kasich all across the real estate tycoon's home state. he is on the verge of mathematically eliminating ted cruz from the race, but trump once again went over the gop system for awarding delegates, calling that process rigged. here's what he had to say. >> nobody should be given delegates which is a ticket to victory, and it's not a fair ticket. and even though we're leading by a lot and we can't be caught, it's impossible to catch us. nobody should take delegates and claim victory unless they get those delegates with voters and
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voting. and that's what's going to happen, and you watch. because the people aren't going to stand for it. it's a crooked system. it's a system that's rigged, and we're going to go back to the old way. it's called you vote, and you win. >> top trump adviser paul manafort told reporters the gop front-runner wants to see the party rules changed for the next election cycle, but trump officials say they're confident they will reach that magic number of 1,237 delegates needed to clinch the nomination. he heads to indiana and maryland for events in those states next. jim acosta, cnn, new york. >> joining us now is farrah johnson, who was a regional director for the obama 2012 campaign, and a former adviser to atlanta's democratic mayor, kasim reid. >> you see him sitting next to republican jackie gingrich kushman. she says she doesn't have any dog in this fight right now, but
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will push to see if we can get your opinions. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> jackie, we do want to start with you because it was very early in the game, about 9:00 eastern time that cnn projected a win for donald trump on the republican side. that was not long after the polls closed. so a very convincing win for donald trump. is this a turning point for him, or do you still see that there's a possibility of a contested convention in july? >> well, this is a huge night for donald trump. don't be confused. he won very, very big in his home state. he needed to win big. he's had a string of not so big -- you know, not wins recently. but what this means for him is it really sets him up for the next stage. next week we have five states up on the republican side. this will go all the way through until june. because in june you have california along with four other states, the very last election that we'll have for this primary process, and regardless of what happens, we will not know, ip don't think, until the very end, until we get to california, if
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we will have donald trump securing the nomination before the convention starts. >> but we even just heard in donald trump's statement after the win, he noted -- again complained about the system, complained about this entire process, and even threw a bone to bernie sanders, saying, i actually agree with some of his complaints as well. the sanders campaign has an issue with voters who weren't able to cast their vote. let's take a look at what new york mayor bill de blasio had to say about that. now, he supports hillary clinton, but take a look at what he had to say. he essentially said that these errors today indicate that additional major reforms will be needed, that the perception that numerous voters may have been disenfranchised undermines the integrity of the entire process and must be fixed. fairen, is vote to reform something that will come out of this entire process because bernie sanders doesn't have a real path to the nomination. it's getting less likely each day. even on the republican side, there seems to be a real complaint about the process. >> well, tonight showed this is basically the beginning of the
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end for the sanders campaign. i mean it's basically now mathematically impossible for him to become the democratic nominee. what i think has just been so disingenuous and really disappointing about bernie sanders is that this is a guy who at the beginning of the race was saying, you know what, i'm going to keep this race very positive. i totally have bought into the dnc process, and now he's starting to complain about the debates and there's even rumors he's -- he's already filed a lawsuit, but now he's basically encouraging his supporters to try to contest the democratic convention. so i think what hillary clinton has got to do is win tonight but also there's got to be a meeting of the minds. but unlike what we're seeing on the republican side, the democrats, we've got to be united when we go to philadelphia and make sure we don't have a brokered convention. and i hope bernie sanders will do what hillary clinton did in 2008, and that was on the floor of the convention, she told all of her delegates and she publicly came out and endorsed then-senator barack obama, who became the president of the united states of america.
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i think that's an opportunity for the sanders campaign to do what's right. >> the democrats need that moment. >> the reality is the reason donald trump said that about sanders, it helps him or whoever the nominee is for sanders to stay in as long as possible. this has been a long, grueling primary for hillary clinton. we knew it would be on the republican side, but for hillary to have to come in and work this hard, this long, and if you look at her numbers recently, she was net favorable up 63% on democrats side in october, november. she's now net favorable only 36%. so this has really hurt her image even on the democratic side, this long process. so she really needs bernie to get out. trump obviously wants to keep bernie in as long as possible because it helps the republicans. >> but back out on the republican side because it looks like now pretty much there's a sigh of relief for clinton and her camp. but with the republicans, there's still that problem, isn't there? three of them, and you've got kasich who is way behind. there is no absolutely no way
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that he can catch up. >> why is he -- >> you remember, he's from ohio. he's a hard worker. he's seen all kinds of things. the reality is it's not very probable, but it's possible. so more than likely trump will have all the delegates walking into the convention and be able to lock it up or close to it. if it happens to go to a contests, brokered convention, we have to think about the second, third, fourth ballots. there is a very small chance that kasich could actually, depending on the rules and what happens, could come out as the nominee. not probable, but possible, right? this is the real challenge. you see it in georgia on this past weekend. they went through the process where republicans actually picked the delegates even though trump won. i think what's going to happen, if you get to the convention, republican convention, and it doesn't reflect the popular vote, i think there's a real challenge that it may actually disenfranchise some republican voters. you have to be really careful about that.
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>> if you really look at the bylaws and rules of republican convention, it states -- and correct me if i'm wrong -- the candidate who even is invited and has a chance to be the republican nominee, he or she has to win i think at least five states. kasich has only won one state. so until he can win four states, it's inconceivable that he can be the nominee. now, let's get back to something she said earlier about trump. i mean we'll be here all night if we talk about the image of donald trump. one of the things that jackie and the republicans like to do is try to paint this bad picture of hillary clinton having this bad image. listen, she's got a million and a half more votes than donald trump has gotten. she's got 2 million more votes than bernie sanders has gotten. the american people are showing every single day that they want hillary clinton to be their nominee. if you put her against trump right now -- and jackie knows this -- she beats trump. so the longer the republican convention -- i mean the longer the republican process goes on, the better for hillary clinton. but back to the point you made earlier about donald trump's sort of message tonight. donald trump is preparing
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himself to basically say, listen, if you guys try to steal this election away from me at the convention, that was a message to his supporters to say, listen, let's challenge the republican establishment. this is the establishment that's been against his campaign the entire time, and make sure that i'm the nominee. and, listen, we all know donald trump is the republican nominee. i feel really good about hillary clinton's chances being the president of the united states. >> said like a true hillary clinton supporter. >> he's a hillary clinton supporter for a very long time. let me point out regarding the votes, hillary has bernie sanders to run against. trump has had a whole bevy of people to run against. >> very high unfavorables as well. that's everything making this election that much more interesting. it would be great to speak to you guys at the length about this. >> it is fascinating. >> thank you both for coming here. jackie and farren, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> i hate to do that, but we ran out of time. >> we always do. >> the u.s. president heads to saudi arabia. coming up, why other issues
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and we will have more on the new york primary in just a moment, but first parts of houston, texas, are starting to recover from the torrential rain and flash floods that paralyzed the region. at least seven people were killed. >> and officials warn the danger isn't over yet. more rain is forecast for wednesday. scott mcclean reports on rescue ov efforts there. >> reporter: it's unimaginable. water rescues in places where there shouldn't be water. this relieved woman spoke to local media just moments after being brought to safety. >> we're alive. we woke up to water up to our knees. >> reporter: the storms, caused by a stalled low pressure system hit parts of texas with little warning. houston hoping additional federal assistance for the area will come as early as wednesday. >> we've asked secretary
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johnson, president obama to expedite an assessment of houston and the other counties as quickly as possible. >> reporter: as homes filled with water, mattresses and refrigerators literally floeted people to safety. a life line yesterday, scrap metal today. a small step in a recovery that will not come quickly. patricia anderson was rescued in a boat yesterday. she showed us the inside of her friend's apartment. >> you could tell where the water would come to. >> reporter: hers looks just like it. water damage more than waist-high. her car was also flooded. she has no flood insurance. >> some people lost their lives, so i can't sit here and worry about a car when some people actually didn't wake up. >> reporter: in houston, i'm scott mcclain. >> and the death toll from saturday's earthquake in ecuador is now up to 480, and officials warn that number will likely rise. about 21,000 people have been displaced. some families have set up tents next to what's left of their homes. hundreds of rescuers from at
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least eight countries have traveled to ecuador to help with relief efforts, but getting crews to the affected areas, that is a huge challenge. u.s. president barack obama will arrive in saudi arabia in just a few hours to discuss ramping up the battle against isis. but this visit comes as relations between the two countries are increasingly strained. cnn's senior diplomatic editor nick robertson is in riyadh and joins us now to discuss this nick, discussions over the classified pages of the 9/11 of this trip in the u.s. do we know what each side plans to say about that during this visit? >> reporter: yes. it's not clear that that's actually going to be addressed. i mean it's a point of huge tension at this time that comes on the top of already deepening mistrust from the saudis in particular, their gulf allies toward the united states and president obama. but, you know, what we're going to hear here and the effort will be to find compromise, to find
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common ground where both sides want to make progress, tackling and fighting isis is going to be a key thing on president obama's agenda here. he will, after he arrives early this afternoon, meet with the king. that's expected to last an hour or so. in that meeting, i think you can expect the two leaders to probably have a frank exchange of views. but at the same time, what we'll hear publicly, i am sure, is how they'll work towards tackling isis and also address some of the saudis' concerns. on thursday, president obama will attend a u.s.gcc meeting, saudi, bahrain, kuwait, united arab emirates, will all have their representatives there. what they would like to see is a ballistic missile defense shield to defend against the activities and the growing threat they perceive from iran. so while president obama will come in looking to the issues in the region, wanting regional stability, regional security, this is what will be.
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i think we can expect these to be the main topics of discussion that we get to hear about afterwards, errol. >> do we know how president obama will try and convince saudi arabia to work better with iran? of course these two middle eastern super powers are essentially fighting proxy wars in a number of places mps do we have any sense of how he may convince them? >> reporter: you know, to be frank, errol, i don't know if you can hear me over the helicopter here. the helicopters are doing sweeps over this area of riyadh at the moment right now in expectation of president obama's arrival. i think the reality of the relationship between saudi arabia right now and the united states is that it's going to be very, very difficult, nigh on impossible, for president obama to convince the saudis to trust him, to trust u.s. policy, that the united states will stick up for them in advent of iran creating more instability in the
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region. they have support for the united states right now in yemen, where the saudis are tackling a civil war there, inspired in part supported by iran, backing the houthi rebels in yemen, of course in syria to the north, they see iran's hand there backing president al assad. they want to see him removed. but the way the united states is proceeding in both these conflicts will give the saudis perhaps little confidence the united states is really going to change its attention from a pivot towards asia to getting more involved on the lines saudis would like them to see in this region. errol. >> our senior diplomatic editor, nick robertson with that comprehensive report from riyadh this morning, approaching 10:48 in the morning there. thanks, nic. a presidential candidate in the philippines is facing harsh criticism for controversial comments he made about a murdered rape victim. now it comes just weeks before the country holds its national elections. linda kincaid has the story.
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>> reporter: a campaign video gone viral. philippines presidential hopeful rodrigo detier tay at air recent rally, apparently joking about the murder of an australian missionary. he told his supporters when he saw the woman's body raped and murdered in a 1989 philippine prison riot, his initial reaction was, she's so beautiful, i thought the mayor should have been first. he is a long time mayor of davos city known for his profanity laced speeches and often controversial comment. despite widespread condemnation over his rape remark from both in and outside the country, he initially refused to apologize but eventually gave in. >> i'm sorry for the philippine know people. it's my style. it's my mouth. i said it in the heat of anger.
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but listen to the story behind it. >> reporter: his political party issued an apology on his behalf, but the 71-year-old has since distanced himself from the statement. and in another strange twist, his daughter revealed to reporters that she's a rape victim. >> it was really a bad joke. >> reporter: she goes on to say she wasn't offended by her father's remarks and believes they won't affect his performance as president. whether the philippine republic agrees is unclear. it looks like his support base is still solid at least for now. social media shows comments all over social media. >> he leads in recent polls but that was before his rape remark. and with national elections just three weeks away, his presidential hopes may now be in jeopardy. linda kincaid, cnn.
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so donald trump and hillary clinton have cemented their front-runner status with decisive wins in the new york primaries. >> and tuesday's results bring
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us one step closer to a trump/clinton race for the white house in november. ♪ >> the stakes for the republicans are enormous tonight, especially for donald trump. >> if he gets more than 50% in all 27 of the congressional districts here, he will win all 95 republican delegates. >> it's really starting to feel like a party here. the wine and beer is flowing. yeah, that's a live band that has just started up. >> tonight the winners of the new york primary will have their vict riffs displayed on one of the world's most famous landmarks. that of course would be the empire state building. >> i feel like i'm in a nora efron movie. >> now let's turn the top of the empire state building the color blue, that we have assigned to hillary clinton. >> thank you, new york. new yorkers, you've always -- you've always had my back. >> since cnn has projected
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donald trump will be the winner of the new york republican primary, we are turning the empire state building the dark crimson, the red. >> we're really, really rocking. i can think of nowhere that i would rather have this victory. >> donald trump, we do project not only is the winner about will win with above 50% statewide. >> if donald trump does get the nomination before the convention, we're going to look back on tonight and say this was the turning point. >> and you know things are getting good when the cash bar opens, rosie. we're finally getting to that point in this election. >> exactly. new york done. it's onward and upward. thank you so much for watching our special coverage. i'm rosemary church. >> i'm errol barnett. please connect with us on twitter at any time. "early start" is next for those of you stateside. >> for those of you elsewhere, do state tuned for "cnn newsroom." you have a great day. >> see you.
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thank you, new york. we love new york. >> you proved once again there's no place like home. >> breaking news this morning, donald trump and hillary clinton win big in new york. blowout victories reshaping the race for president. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine roman. >> i'm john berman. it's 4:00 a.m. in the east. the breaking news this morning, huge wins for donald trump and hillary clinton in new york. significant wins. race-shaping

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