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>> so sad. thank you. >> thank you for joining me today. >> hello, hillary clinton and donald trump saying how about them apples, trump got 60% and john kasich with 25% and ted cruz a distant third at 14%. >> for the democrats hillary clinton brought the bernie sanders winning streak to a screeching halt. picking up 58% of vote. what that means in delegate land is clinton storms out of new york with 139 additional delegates to bernie sanders picking up 108. >> it was way more one sided for the republicans.
donald trump won at least 89 delegates here and john kasich in second with at least three. and ted cruz netted a grand total of zero. zero delegates despite campaigning here. donald trump edging closer to 1237 needed to secure the nomination before the convention. if he can maintain some discipline he could get close. >> look at the democratic side on that. hillary clinton is now fewer than 500 delegates away. sanders trailing her in both pledged delegates and those ever important superdelegates. the proportional delegate system will make it difficult for sanders to cut into that lead. >> now it is on to super spring tuesday or spring super tuesday, whichever way you like on april 26th, either way when voters in connecticut and delaware and pennsylvania and rhode island lead to the polls. moments ago ted cruz finished in
hershey pennsylvania coming off his third out of three finish in the state of new york and zero delegate gains here. >> let's talk about the path forward and what happened last night. let's bring in the national spokesman for the campaign. thanks for coming in. >> you bet. >> kelley ann conway, works with the super pacs and not with the campaign. she was onset and set a low bar saying you would pick up more than zero delegates. you picked up zero delegates. what happened last night? >> we won the last five states leading up to new york and donald trump won new york and we can say winning is better. but this wasn't any big surprise, look on the democratic side, shouldn't be a size hillary clinton won on the democratic side. donald trump won his own state and even john kasich was able to win his own state of ohio, not
winning anything before or after. no really big surprise. we did go there into new york because we campaigned in every state. but ultimately this is no big surprise and we're on to pennsylvania where we're campaigning today. we're well organized in the states coming up on april 26th and all throughout the month of may and ready to wrap up the campaign in california where the donald trump campaign is a total basket case. >> ron, you just said the insufferable john kasich. he just beat you by a lot in the state of new york, won delegates in the state of new york and leading in the polls in the states that follow new york. we have a new poll out of connecticut which has john kasich running seconds to donald trump right there. what do you mean by -- >> john kasich in the last month has won a grand total of three delegates, that's almost as many as you've won in the last month. john kasich is not going to be the republican nominee for president. everybody knows that. his continued presence in the
race only helps donald trump. >> why does that make him insufferable? >> don't you -- >> why insufferable? >> because he's -- john kasich is a spoiler, everybody knows this. this is nothing particularly new. he has no strategy for winning anywhere. and in fact he keeps on saying every time he loses a state, which is all of the time, he keeps saying the map going forward looks better for us. he said woe do really well in new york. he won three delegates. you need 1237 in order to win the nomination. he's been eliminated from this contest effectively. meanwhile in the donald trump camp this ongoing mess of a campaign organization they are trying to sort out right in the middle of the contest. that's not exactly the time when you want campaign staff showing up trying to figure out how to make their e-mail work. this is not a surprise what happened in new york. we're at the top of the sixth
inning. >> ron, don't you need ron kasich? take new york as an example. >> no. as a matter of fact we know we're going into a contested convention and no candidate will win a majority of delegates going forward. of the reason donald trump yells at the system so much, he wants the majority of the delegates when he's not winning the majority of the party. the only state so far where he's able to crest 50% his own state of new york and i don't think he'll do that again in any state coming up. >> 48% in connecticut. let's talk about where you are or ted cruz is right now. let's throw up the map of the five states that vote next week, connecticut, pennsylvania, rhode island. which state that's up there on the board is ted cruz going to win? you'll have to forgive me for not raising the curtain in terms of projections like that of the donald trump and some people in the media would like as ted cruz has said for people to pretend that pennsylvania is a suburb of
manhattan which it isn't. we were 20 points down in the state of wisconsin two weeks before we wounds up winning by 13 points, this contest going forward is a contest for delegates because that's where ultimately the grass roots base of the republican party is going to express itself. that base is consolidating not behind donald trump but behind ted cruz. make no mistake, it's going to be a competitive contest for sure but going forward, no candidate will get to the absolute majority of the delegates needed to win on the first ballot. beer going to a contested convention. that's what's going to happen here. >> the fight is on. thank you so much, ron, we have a lot to discuss before this next contest coming up. >> not sure i was expecting that quite like that. >> let's bring in our chief political analyst dana bash. and anna novarro and anna is a republican strategist who
supported jeb bush and -- >> dana bash only supported me. >> supported all of us. >> just reporter trying to pick my job off the table here. >> amanda, for senator ted cruz, we'll get to what ron said in a moment. the insufferable john kasich. i want to get back to donald trump last night who had a big win. 60%, almost all of the delegates available in the state. a different donald trump when he took the stage to declare victory. >> very interesting. not only did he give a very brief speech, a low key speech, even his kind of jabs at the party which he's been given were much more subdued about the rigged system. and you know, he didn't -- it wasn't that long ago that he was having big press conferences with people at his country club
and showing off trump stakes or things we thought were trump stakes. it was all about marketing the trump name. now it really seems to be about being a genuine candidate who follows not total presidential rules but more of the presidential rules. the one quick thing i will say that we have to remember about last night which is why our friend from the cruz campaign was a little bit irritated this morning shall we say, even people inside the cruz campaign realize there's absolutely no mathematical way for him to be the nominee without a contested convention. the only person who has that chance, mathematically is donald trump. >> let's turn to amanda, if the big message was stop calling him -- get on messaged discipline. what was the message last night to ted cruz? what is this insufferable john kasich? do you agree?
>> well, i think the big lesson for ted cruz he has to find a way to really loosen up. last night in that speech it was kind of cookie cutter, he did have kind of a new style he was talking, making appeal to maybe reagan democrats and blue collar workers. you're standing there with the two flags and donald trump has shaken up the race so much. not only ted cruz but all republican candidates have so much more latitude than they think they do and they really have to think more out of the box and talking to voters and not just doing it in this cookie cutter way. the thing that bothered me a lot last night, ted cruz would say, you need an optimistic message and he would say i'm optimistic. last night he had the message that he's an outsider. i'm an outsider. you have to tell the story. i think he would do much better reminding people of why he was such a fighter inside the senate. relive those fights, explain to them why they gained his trust
in the first place and that in itself provides a very clear contrast to donald trump. >> one of the things we heard ron say and cruz campaign say, the trump team is disorganized and can't pick up delegates in the convention and basket case, can't run a lemonaid stand. my question, which way would you rather win delegates, the way donald trump did in new york last night and may do next week in the five mid-atlantic states or with the incredibly impressive organization that ted cruz has? >> to tell you the truth, any which way. >> what matters here is the end result. and what i think is the lesson from last night, you know, ted cruz doesn't speak spanish very well. he does speak some but he knows his favorite cuban dish. it means cuban ground beef. donald trumped turned him into -- in new york. forget loosening up.
the brand of ted cruz is already pretty solidified out there. he is a holy roller, obstructionist, we know that. some people like it and some people don't. a lot of people who don't like it live in the northeast and will be voting next tuesday. forget loosening up. he has to learn how to play well with others. you all have kids and get that report card. he gets an f on that category. he has got to figure out how to reach out to xbron kasich who has been trying to reach out for him for weeks. look at that map and say, okay, you know what, rafael, ted cruz, you'll do here and john kasich, insufferable or not, you'll do better there. i'll take it here and they've got to figure out how to coordinate. they have one joint goal, also my goal, to stop donald trump from getting 1237 before he gets to the convention. if he does reach 1237, they are both done, just put a big fork in both of them.
>> insufferable erol lewis, do you think there's any chance? >> of course not. if they were going to do it, they certainly would have done it by now and any number of instances including here in new york, within the fact we have delegates done by congressional district, they could have difvied up the congressional districts if they wanted to. the fact is cruz is well organized and they have great anl lit ticks to target a lot of stuff. kasich has far less money, not able to do that. it wouldn't be a conversation between equals and they are both hoping for a convention in which no one gets the nomination on first ballot and then there's a big free for all. they are still potentially rivals and not going to share trade secrets and in the end it may end up working to both of their detriment but i can't see them getting together to form a united front. it would have happened by now. >> on that point, john kasich
has tried his team has tried very hard and literally the cruz campaign, they just and its leaders won't call them back -- >> or they call them names. >> like the insufferable john kasich. >> for lindsey graham, for folks like raul and these folks to get on the phone with somebody like a charlie black, tell ted cruz to drink happy juice and figure out how to work with others. >> what does john kasich have to bring to the table. he got three delegates in new york. that's more than ted cruz but ted cruz is the one that has all of the operation. why would you let john kasich in on that. so i think john kasich has a lot to gain. ted cruz has nothing to gain from that kind of relationship. >> you've been sitting here playing nicely while people have been talking about cuban beef and other things. this was -- >> it's picarillo.
>> not even close. >> it was a big night for donald trump, is this an acknowledgement now, the fact that he showed more discipline on the stage last night, is that what he now needs to do and does he have to leave behind everything else that got him to this point? >> we need to see more of the donald trump we have seen last night and we have seen that. the fact is he is the presumptive nominee. he's comfortable in his skin now and confident. he doesn't need to attack anymore. he just needs to do exactly what he did last night and it's important to emphasize the magnitude of his victory. he won by 35%. that's more than any poll was predicting he would win by. you look at ted cruz, quickly becoming more third place, lost to ben carson and came in fourth. ted cruz was trounced in the southeast where he was supposed to do well and trounced in the northeast, winning a narrow sliver of states.
it's time for the trump movement never to pack up and go home. they spents $70 million trying to topple this candidate. it's not working and narrow sliver of the establishment and time for the establishment to realize their days are behind them. >> i think it takes more than one state to get a nickname like mr. third place. >> mr. third place with the best ground game operation we've seen for delegates. >> it takes more than one but i'm not sure it takes more than six. >> there's a point. >> thank you very much. >> john, was the name? >> insufferable, that's what i'm going with. >> it's very good, by the way, it's got olives and raisins and sweet and savory combo, i'll send you some. >> are you hungry? ana has food for you. let's talk about the democrats now, bernie sanders is taking a day off the trail to recharge
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bernie sanders came into new york saying he would win the states and now leaving with a few bumps and bruises to show for it. likely one of reasons he's taken the day off to recharge for fight ahead. >> no easy hike for bernie sanders. from this moment forward he needs to win 83% of the pledged delegates at stake to take the democratic nomination. hillary clinton would need 32%. joining us right now one of the top strategists in the bernie sanders campaign, tad devine is with us. you fought hard in new york. you were here nearly for the two full weeks and spent $2 million more on advertising than the clinton campaign. what happened here? >> i think hillary clinton is strong in her home state and the new york system doesn't allow independents to participate. it doesn't even allow them to
change their party registration unless they do it many months before. i think we ran into a system that favored her and state that likes her a lot. we'll give secretary clinton paying credit for that victory. >> you give her her due and give her credit for it. after the context next week, that the campaign planned to in your words, sit back and assess where we are. what does that mean? >> i'll tell you what it means, i was talking whether or not we could have a pledged delegate lead by the end of voting in june. we have to do well next week. we lost a few more delegates yesterday than i thought we would. we're a little farther behind in delegates than we hoped to be. i think if we do well next week we can get back on course to have a pledged delegate lead by the time the voting ends. that's what i was talking about. >> you're acknowledging that that's a slimmer and slimmer possibility at this point? >> obviously we lost more than we thought we would yesterday. we thought the race would be closer. we can still do it. a lot of events through
california. bernie sanders has a very powerful message that our economy is rigged. that all of the new wealth is going to the top of america and that rigged economy held in place by a system of corrupt finance. hillary clinton did well had her home state but we have a lot of states coming up where we think bernie sanders will do really well. >> last night bernie sanders said there's no change strategy moving forward but when you look forward, do you need to have a change in tone? the clinton campaign is furious over what they call false character attacks from your campaign leading up to new york. they called it destructive, not productive for democrats and not proktive for the country. you guys are basically helping republicans here. are you going to change the tone? >> listen, first i couldn't disagree more with their mischaracterization. and i would point to the exit polls from new york to refute their case. one of the questions in the exit poll yesterday, which campaign was running the more unfair
campaign? this is in a state where hillary clinton won 58% of the vote and 46% of the new york respondents said the clinton campaign was more unfair, 34% said the sanders campaign. even in a state she won overwhelmingly the voters who had a front run seat said they were more unfair. i would also point to the exit poll whether or not this campaign was energizing the party. 66% said it was energizing the democratic party. different from the republicans. i hear what they are saying but what they are saying is being refuted by the voters themselves. >> it sounds like you're saying there's going to be no change in tone from your campaign. >> new york times has an excellent editorial that points out why it's so important for bernie sanders to continue to make his case, he has brought definition to these issues. particularly the issue of whether or not the democratic party needs to continue to rely on big money to fund its campaign. i think the times is right. that's a newspaper that endorsed
hillary clinton. and we'll make the case whether or not it's time to change politics in america. i think bernie sanders case was heard in new york but more voters will 1307respond all acr the country. >> you brought up the exit polls, you have often touted you're closing the gap on the very important african-american vote and democratic primary but when you look at new york, you're not. 75% went for hillary clinton. 25% went for your candidate. can you win the democratic nomination without -- with numbers like that? >> no, we can't. that's why we have to do better. listen, i think african-american voters in new york who know secretary clinton, president clinton very well, that's their home state. his office is in harlem. they have a strong footprint there. >> tad, it's like the end of april, what more reintroduction do you have time for? >> i think we have a lot of time, 1400 delegates to be
picked and huge states like california still in play. we'll be able to demonstrate by the time we get to the end of the process that bernie sanders' appeal is across the broad spectrum of the party and only bernie sanders can do something we need to do to win the general election, bring in young people. a lot showed up in new york. not as many in other states but a lot did. and also bring independents to the democratic process. they couldn't do it because of the law yesterday in new york but we will be able to do that in places like california and elsewhere. >> thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it, sir. >> hillary clinton as you've been hearing, she won new york and now she's trying to address bernie sanders supporters. what is her message to those young people you just heard tad talking about? can she unite the party? >> we have breaking news out of michigan. the first criminal charges will be coming down in connection with the tainted water crisis that poisoned thousands in flint. three people charged, who they are and what they are facing, that's ahead. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature...
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reality but what does that mean going forward? >> they said a couple of dozen times they were going to win the state. they were expecting something big. what it means is that it's the end of a political scenario they laid out. the scenario was one after another. they narrowly win and they surprised everybody. they shocked everybody. their plan up until last night was to do that in new york and do it again in pennsylvania and do it again in pennsylvania, to some kind of closing of the delegate gap but that scenario was gone. that's why he's talking about well, we may go to the convention and make a fight about it. >> mr. mayor, you support hillary clinton right now. what decision do you think the sanders campaign should be making right now? should they change their tone? should they change their tactics if they want to win or change their tone or tactics if they don't want to win the party. >> there should be some shift in the dialogue. the level of attacks, senator sanders has run a great campaign
and raised tremendous issues and has been a benefit in this whole ses but as a candidate, he and his team know that the likelihood of taking the nomination with pledged delegates is becoming slipper and slipper. >> said so. >> so at what point do you start to pivot. he's going to keep running and has money. no one has said that i know of, at least on the clinton side that he should do anything other than run. the question is, what is he saying? what is this about? unifying the democratic party as we get closer to the convention in philadelphia to get ready for november or is it just i'm senator sanders and i'm running and i'll burn the house down and we'll see what happens in the fall. that's a decision that he and his team have to make. i would hope on behalf of the party, maybe through the end of april here after next tuesday with the five atlantic states voting that some change in the tone would take place that is telling voters stay engaged and
stay involved in the process, love your enthusiasm and everything else. we see where this is going. we need to be together in the fall to defeat donald trump and cruz and whomever shows up to the party. >> who do you think the real po post moretem is? >> the discrepancy we saw last night was between jeff weaver and tad devine, saying, we're going to -- we may reassess this once we see what happens next tuesday. we have a handful of races next tuesday. jeff weaver saying we're going all the way to the convention. which is it? that's one of the questions being answered today. >> ted tried to thread the needle say it was just on the delegate strategy but still -- that means a lot. >> i think one of the things that clinton campaign is talking about is to your point, i think
their expectation was okay, we're going to keep going, we're going to keep battling bernie sanders and we think we're getting the nomination. when we have to move towards the general election, we're hoping bernie sanders says take one for the team, right? but they are worried about the fact that bernie sanders and his campaign recently came out not just against hillary clinton but against the dnc when it comes to this fund raising saying the dnc is in the bag for hillary clinton because they are worried -- how do you say take one for the team when you said this team is kind of -- >> in true clinton fashion, her speech last night, you had a feeling that every word was incredibly carefully chosen. we have a little bit of sound we can play to illustrate that point. >> and to all the people who supported senator sanders, i believe there is much more that unites us than divides us. under the bright lights of new
york, we have seen that it's not enough to diagnose problems, you have to explain how you would actually solve the problems. >> dana. >> that was the primary message she had when we -- when they had the debate with my partner here. and that was the only moment where there was a subtle dig at bernie sanders last night. as you said, it was very carefully crafted clearly to try to bring everybody together. i liked how she talked about supported senator sanders -- specifically she was talking about new yorkers because the new york primary was over. but there was also kind of a -- >> past tense, right, exactly. >> not so subtle past tense there. >> i'm not saying it was intentional but it came across that way. i also want to take it up a few thousand feet, which is and to say that the speech that she
gave last night was i said one of the best that i've seen and i would definitely defer to you because you're with her all the time. one of the best speeches i've seen her give this cycle with this kind of audience. i just remember going with her to iowa after she left the state department, campaigning for bruce a candidate there. it was kind of painful. she -- she got on the stage and the oxygen went out of the room because she was out of practice. that is a completely different candidate and all of the toing and froing and yes, it hasn't been easy, it has made her a better candidate. >> another line of the night, when she said victory is in sight. that looks like a pivot to the general election and that's happened how many times before? >> at least eight times.
>> all of them looking like it was premature. >> it's one of the things that could unite the party. whatever else bernie sanders supporters don't like about hillary clinton, the one thing they should like is the prospect of beating donald trump or whoever they nominate. this is the real bottom line belonging to the democratic party in the first place. >> for her to let people hear it in the end, on that they should be -- >> how careful do you need to be? >> careful. >> you want to bring people together you're at home. there's a comfort level you get as a candidate when you're literally on your home turf and you can say some things or be more expressive, she wants to make sure democrats are united and extend that olive branch and
say certain things and key language and be that uniter that we're going to need. it's going to be a tough race in the fall. regardless of who shows up on the republican side. there will be a real race. and democrats will have to come together just like we did back in 2008, a vigorous primary because that's what we democrats like and hillary clinton says i'm for senator barack obama, campaigns with him. i was out there for senator obama after being for hillary clinton the entire campaign. that's what really needs to happen. how you win elections. >> we're bullish on vigorous primaries as well in general on both sides. >> sound like a new yorker now. >> never call me that, for -- >> talk when we get to the indiana primary. >> hoosier state, here we come. thanks, all. >> on the republican side, as we've been saying next tuesday's context in pennsylvania could be the contest which dictates the nomination.
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doesn't think the people of pennsylvania deserve a debate. if he actually understood the problems facing this country, he should welcome a debate here in pennsylvania before next tuesday. now, last night donald won his home state. to the surprise of nobody. everybody knew donald would win his home state. if you look at the frenzy panic he wants the race to suddenly be over in the home state, it shows why donald is scared. >> in summary, it's on pennsylvania, that is ted cruz leaving his event in hershey, pennsylvania and brace yourself for pennsylvania. the next big prize on the presidential primary calendar is one of the states where the republican party delegate system is complicated. >> wicked. >> 71 gop delegates in all but not all are required to support the candidate who wins the most votes in tuesday's primary. only 17 are actually bound. the rest really should be
considered the ultimate free agents. >> john king breaks down the delegate math and how pennsylvania really could be key to donald trump reaching that magic number of 1237 delegates needed to clinch the nomination. >> bwinning in this party of th country, it's safe to assume that this is donald trump country right now. the interesting part is 17 of the delegates you win next tuesday night, 54 are already committed to be unbound, to go to the republican convention unbound. what you want to be in you're donald trump, is to win and win by a big margin so then you go back and make -- >> does pennsylvania usually go with the front-runner? >> well, pennsylvania it never matters is the problem. if you want to go back and look at 2012. you see what happens, the race is over. go to 2008, the race is over. that's what this campaign is so unusual, especially on the republican side. so the point is for trump, he wants to win and win big so his campaign can circle back to
those uncommitted delegates and say, follow the will of the vot voters. >> pennsylvania matters a lot and our guest matters a lot. keler running to be a delegate from the 12th congressional district in pennsylvania and supports donald trump. mr. keller, our question to you is this, how much contact have you had with the trump campaign? you would think if they want to gather up as much support from the unbound delegates, there would be me tick house organization. >> well, thank you for having me. we did have a conversation call not this past sunday but the sunday before where the campaign reassured us that they were doing everything that they can to ensure we get elected and i have faith in mr. trump and he's an effective guy and i'm sure they are going to be effective in getting us elected. that said, we've also kind of
form ded a coalition of trump supporting delegates across the state and formed delegates for trump.com. matthew jansen from the fourth district and jamie klein from the fifth district have contributed to this effort. we have some very generous donors that are helping us. we are kind of running independent of the campaign. >> right. >> they don't want to show their cards. i'm sure that's the way it is. but we're doing what we can to get elected and get mr. trump in office and i hope the campaign is doing the same to get us elected as well. >> the interesting thing about that, you're doing the organizing on the ground to get together and pull trump delegates together not necessarily from what you're hearing or seeing. the trump campaign doing that. does that worry you? >> no, it doesn't concern me. like i said, i have faith in mr. trump. he's an effective guy and knows how to get things done and knows how important these delegates.
they are the unbound delegates. they'll be more important at the convention because what happened in colorado, wyoming, georgia, these delegates are the ones elected by the people. so that has to hold more weight and has to hold more weight as mr. trump has been saying, it's the vote that counts and just aappointing the delegates in other states, i don't believe it to be a fair process. but he knows how important we are and i'm sure he's going to do his best to get us elecelect. but we're going to do it about or without the campaign. we have generous donor, leslie rossi, has a story why she's voting for mr. trump and painted one of her properties the american flag and it's -- it's pretty amazing. and all of the delegates across the state have become friends. they stayed at my house. we attended the hannity event for the taping. i reached out to fox news
directly. and organized five delegaes being at the hannity recording last week and again -- they stayed at my house and i have new best friends. >> we question maybe your viewing habits, sir, but we appreciate you coming on with us this morning. >> i'll tell you what, you can put us on one of your shows as well. >> we just did. >> guess what, it just happened. >> we want a bunch of us there. thank you very much. >> breaking for us moments ago, we have to get to this, the first criminal charges are announced in connection with the toxic water crisis in flint, michigan. much more on the details out of flint. that's next. but when you're building a mercedes-benz, there really is no small stuff. every decision... every component... is an integral part of what makes the 2016 c-class one of our most sophisticated cars ever. because when you're setting a new benchmark for refinement, it is the small stuff...
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official charged with crimes. they will be announced as we just heard, 1:00 this afternoon. but they are and we want to let you know their names, mike glasgow charged with tampering with evidence and as a public official willful neglect of dut. he is charged with six counts including misconduct in office. tampering with evidence and violation of the safe drinking water act. and mike prisby with the michigan department of environmental evidence and misconduct in office tampering with evidence and violation of the safe drinking water act. tampering with evidence is a very serious allegation here because it is involving prison time. these are criminal charges that would result in prison time and
it all emulates from the change in the water supply from the detroit safe clean water system to the flint river earlier this year. as we know, the corrosive agent was not put in that water. the decision was made to not put it and then lead seeped into the pipes. that had been so many civil cases filed. we heard a little more information. in the civil cases, it is alleging that one of these men. steven bush actually changed and falsified a report saying that a corrosive agent had been put in the water. we'll see what the attorney general says. that's the civil complaint right there but tampering with evidence is altering, changing, destroying, when you believe is evidence possibly in an official investigation. serious and involved prison time. >> serious and maybe not the only charges that people face. >> there are many in the inner circle. the environmental protection not charged at this point and you're right. it may be the beginning of more.
>> we're going to be listening closely to the attorney general at 1:00. thank you, jean. so in the city of cleveland becoming the center of the republican universe in june, some of the gop's top stars could be miles away. house speaker paul ryan is now saying that everyone should go to the convention. why sit out? but will they listen? a top rnc official is going to be joining cnn live.