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♪ ♪ the world mourning the death of a superstar tonight. you're looking at the historic apollo theater in harlem where fans have been gathering all night to pay tribute to prince. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. the super dome in new orleans lit in purple to honor the man known as the purple one. prince rogers nelson died today at the age of 57, found unresponsive in an elevator at paisley park studios. the cause so far unknown. but prince leaves an incredible musical legacy of pop, rock,
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funk and soul behind. songs you just can't help but dance to, like 1984's a 1984's named "baby i'm a star" ♪ hey, look me over, baby do you like what you see ♪ >> let's go to "entertainment tonight" most nischelle turner. you're at paisley park tonight. describe the scene. >> i mentioned it to you last hour. it's the same feeling out here right now. eerily silent. you are just playing the music and i got a little caught up in it. a lot of fans have been saying the same thing. they're just out here to celebrate the man, celebrate the music. right over here, over my shoulder you can see a huge crowd that has gathered here at paisley park and people are just kind of milling around, talking to each other, some bringing flowers, others bringing
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balloons, just looking for any sign from inside the compound here, anything that they can take with them. and also just sharing memories with one another. so it is one of those -- one of those nights that you'll remember for the rest of your life and i know people just kind of wanted to come out here and experience it with other fans of prince's. >> what are your sources telling you about the days, nischelle, leading up to prince's death? >> reporter: yeah, there's not a lot of information that's coming out at this point, don, but we have gotten some new information at "entertainment tonight" this evening. sources close to our kevin frazier have been telling him that prince indeed did have the flu and that that flu turned into walking pneumonia. they're also telling kevin that prince was battling a hip injury and that he was dealing with all of those things, that he did have some dehydration, was dealing with all of those
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things. and that source also did say prince was not healthy. but we won't really know the full picture of everything until the autopsy is done. again, we mentioned the autopsy will be done tomorrow. so maybe we'll get some more answers in the coming days. but apparently he was battling something pretty serious there, don. >> let's talk about his legacy and influence. he was a pioneer in every sense of the world. his music, fashion, his influence is everywhere in the industry, isn't it? >> reporter: yeah, you know, it kind of makes me smile and chuckle a little bit when you talk about that because, yes, is fashion, his style was something was something when he came on scene back in the 80 was something that we, especially people of color and our community didn't really know and didn't really understand what a man could look like, very kind
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of and droj nous and say prince is the only man i know that can put on a pair of 6 inch heels and have a perm and i'm still so attracted to him. he's this enigma that we all wanted more of and more of, and we've heard about his message from van jones tonight about his humanitarianism is just something special. so this person, i'm bummed out that we won't get to read his memoirs. one of the things we all wanted to know is what was behind that looking glass. like who was prince rogers neelson at tnee nelson at the end of the day? we want to know the man.
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we want to know what prince is like when he comes home from a long day and kicks his shoes off. what does he think, who is he? >> earlier today, we were talking about the same things. prince just didn't have an afro, he also had a pressing curl and he was doing a smokey eye before y'all knew what a smokey eye was. >> and every woman i know said i could care less, look at that, it's sexy. that interview you've been playing with larry king is one of the sexiest looks that i believe prince ever. he just was everything rolled up into one for a lot of people. i have been hearing fans out here talk about those things tonight as well. it's been a really tough day, don, because i know you're a fan of his just like i am. so it's good to get a laugh when we're talking about and reporting on him tonight. >> i went to the store and here
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is my paisley purple tie that just happened to be the first thing i saw when i got off the escalator in the men's department. >> reporter: nice. >> thank you very much, nischelle. appreciate it. >> absolutely. >> now i want to bring in a superstar who is also a friend of prince and that's miss dionne warwick. how are you doing? >> as well as can be expected under these circumstances. such a sad, sad day. >> tell me about your relationship with prince. how did you guys first meet? >> i met him backstage at one of the grammy awards. i was standing -- in fact, it was the night i presented my cousin whitney with her first grammy. and he walked up behind me and in that very low voice, "hello, miss warwick" and i turned around and there he was, you know. that was my first encounter with
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him. and of course i've gone a couple of his shows, which are spectacular, of course. such a loss. such a major, major loss. >> so you've gone to his show and i imagine you've encountered him other than him coming up behind you and saying "hello." any other experiences? >> i went down to his club in los angeles. he'd give free concerts. he'd just get up on stage and do a concert for anybody who wanted to hear him sing. he was just a wonderful young man. just a really wonderful young man. >> you know, it's interesting that you say that because a lot of people mention how he would sometimes just call you up if you were a friend and tell you come to this place at midnight or after and he would just give these free concerts and you would wonder if he was dealing with the flu, we don't know what the cause was, but what would
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inspire him to still get up on stage and perform. he needed it. that's who he was. >> he was entertainment in capital letters. he loved what he did. that was apparent. we're all privy to his legacy, his music, his recordings so that will live on forever and ever and ever. when you find someone that talented willing to give as much as he gave, you know, what else can you say about him? >> yeah. you know, i just saw you last week and i think i saw you a couple weeks before at another event, and every time i see you, you just inspire me to live every single day because you're still going. there we are at the barber shop 3 and then we were at the god thing for morgan freeman a couple weeks ago. but i want to talk to you about you, you as an inspiration. your music stake tonight get played on the same station as prince. his played on a funkier part of the dial. did you connect to prince
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musically? >> yeah, "when doves cry," that was my favorite. >> you talked about whitney. were they close? >> i don't know if they were close or not. >> you were close to artist, we lost too many young, we reported on michael, we reported on whitney, it's awful and now i'm reporting on prince. how do you want us to remember him? >> as a loving, giving and caring human being. that's the best i can say. he gave of himself, his time, his finances. he gave us prince, which was just wonderful. like i said, he was one of the good guys. >> why is it that all those big
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bold names that i rattled off there, whitney, michael, prince, why does the talented seem to go so young? you ever wonder that? >> i've kind of put a tag on it and once i say it people stop and say, you know, maybe you're right. i think the big guy in the sky that we call god, i think he's putting together the most spectacular event that will ever, ever happen and he's calling all of the creme de la creme at this moment. >> what do you say to family and friends tonight? >> oh, wow. my heart goes out to them, just know that he's now at peace, he's with our maker and he's okay. he's okay now. >> a legend celebrating the life of another legend. miss dionne warwick, thank you
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for joining us here on "cnn tonight." >> my pleasure. thank you. >> stars paying tribute. justin timberlake saying "it was raspberry beret. 4 years old. yes, 4. i remember that i instantly loved it. "mommy, who is that singing?" ? seems wei seems weird by it's true." i've just arrived in atlanta and i can't wait to start telling people how switching to geico could save them hundreds of dollars on car insurance. but first, my luggage. ahh, there it is. uh, excuse me, sir? i think you've got the wrong bag. sorry, they all look alike, you know? no worries.
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president barack obama paying tribute today to prince, calling him brilliant, one of the gifted and most prolific musicians of our time. joining me now is prince's former manager and a producer of "purple rain." good evening. how are you doing, mr. ruffalo? >> well, shocked. it's been a tough day. thinking back to the very beginning, meeting him and managing him with my partner, five albums and making it as big as he did and then "purple rain." it was a tremendous opportunity and i could never thank him enough for the opportunity he afforded me and my partner in. >> how did "purple rain" and how
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important was it for him to star in it as the kid? >> i guess the best way to approach it was prince was the type of artist, he pretty much set the criteria of what he wanted. he would listen but in the bottom line he would just think about how he saw his life, how he saw his development, and then he would pretty much come up with what he wanted to do. and the development that went on over the four albums leading up to you we"purple rain," a lot o had to do with my partner and i had developed earth wind & fire and developed them into a major act and we had the tools that could be brought to prince to take him further along in the process. because basically at that time in the music business, bottom line earth, wind and fire were
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really the first black artists that were paid like white artists. and it was a process to get them to that point. and to be blessed to have prince come into our management company, it afforded us a tremendous opportunity because he was such a major, major talent and you could see that he was going to have control of all of the tools going forward, and he demanded that the management that was going to take him as far as he wanted to go, the demands were quite high. and when he decided that it was time to make a movie, i mean, knowing a little bit about the movie business, you'd understand that that almost sounds like let's go build a barn and put on a show. it's not easily done. and how it came about basically he demanded it. my partner and i, who i wish he was here because, you know, we
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did it together and we worked very hard in different areas, we basically went around to try to get that movie made and there wasn't much enthusiasm for it. >> why not? >> well, they just didn't want to make it. at that i'm in the business, now there's more of a synergy between music and film but back at that time, even though it was at warner brothers and we went there first to try to pitch it, there wasn't that strong connection between the music side of the business and the film side of the business. so meetings were held but the bottom line people just could not see, you know, putting up the money for it. and so we're going along the process, trying to get this movie made and i remember one time my partners and i were sitting down talking, we said, well, we better discuss this with prince because winter's coming. you know, he feels like we're going to go out and make a movie
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this winter but it's looking like it's going to be a problem. so we're sitting down talking about the plusses and the minuses and maybe we should wait till spring and maybe the market will open up a little more. and prince just got up in the meeting and he looked at us and he said "we start shooting thanksgiving." and he walked out of the room. what kind of a guy was prince? when prince said we were shooting thanksgiving, it meant we better start shooting thanksgiving. that started a process to make a movie outside the studio system. and in fact, we did it independently. and it started a rather remarkable process that we don't have the time to talk about it but the script was being developed, obviously the music had to be rehearsed, we had to find people to make the movie. i look back and i laugh at it --
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>> it was extraordinary because he won an oscar for best original score for that film, his acceptance speech he said he never imagined winning in his wildest dream. i think he did realize in some way the depth of his talent but, you know, he realized also that he had to stand up for himself or no one else was going to do it. "we start shooting at thanksgiving." >> that's true. that applied pretty much to his art across the board. looking back it's remarkable. my partners and i had never made a movie. the director was right out of usc film school. he had never made a movie. and i was tasked with putting the production to the so i had to go buy -- picked up some books at french's film school on
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film production, then i found a tv producer who had never made a movie and in effect with a cast of only two actor, professional actor, clarence williams and alga korlados, in effect we were able to put together -- but we actually went out and made that movie. and brought it in pretty much on budget. >> i was going to say the rest is history. the rest is history. it's a fascinating story, mr. ruffalo. i thank you for coming on, especially dealing with what you're dealing with today. thank you so much. >> yeah, it's a shock. thank you. >> we'll be right back but first prince's song "kiss." it made it to number one on the bill board top 100 and appeared in rolling stone magazine's top 100 of all time.
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prince wrote music and performed for decades but he'll always be remembered for his decade that was his break through, the 80s. i want to bring in downtown julie brown, host in the 80s. >> i want to thank you for all your work today. he was an unbelievably special man. even if you'd never met him, he's one of those personalities and artists that you'd say, gosh, if i met him, i don't know what i'd do. but he was so lovely, so lovely and professional. i'm just a speck in the sparkle in the world that he made shine. i just so happened to in london he was already big on the scene.
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you know, the fashion was going crazy because of prince, the dances was going crazy. so when i got to mtv in 1986 and i just happened to be on the stage where i could just talk about him all day long, it was a wonderful thing to do. and then now something like this happens and you find yourself not being able to say too much. >> yeah. so let's talk about mtv in the 80s, didn't have a great reputation for playing artists of color, so how did prince break through? >> yeah, at that time when i came to mtv, it was very few. michael jackson of course was on there and the group cameo. and prince was such -- he was such an undeniable force because he didn't really have a color. i know that sounds strange coming from me but it was just -- people were just so interested in his music and his vibe that it kind of like blew it away.
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i would never sit there and go, oh, prince was -- and i don't want to offend anybody by saying this at all, that prince was a black artist because to me he was an artist across the board. and every other artist loved to be look prince. i mean, rock 'n' rollers, you know, would just like be captivated by this man. we were sitting at a concert in los angeles and i was sitting right next to paul stanley of kiss and paul stanley hit me and he goes, "are you seeing this? are you hearing this? not one note wrong." the great thing about watching prince, it seemed like everything was to the book but sometimes it would be fun to watch the band try to keep up with him when he'd be off the cuff a little bit. it would be really cute, he'd give these little winks and smiles and say "you better catch
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up." >> his looks with the hair, you see little richard, you see jimmy hendrix, i say james brown all rolled into one. >> yeah, well, he was the soul. i mean, he was the soul of that music. if it wasn't for prince in our decade, i think those artists wouldn't be as sort of like balanced as they are. they'd be in their own genre, whereas prince put them into all of his music. i mean, he was just -- and not to take that away from him because in no way a copycat. the man was just a man on his own feet. and just seeing him -- seeing the artist today that loved prince and love his music, i mean, that's a testament to how great the guy was. and not only that, as a woman, you know, just he was such a man, you know? >> even with the straightened hair and the make-up and the eyeliner, he was still a man,
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right? that's what every woman is saying. >> it didn't matter. he was such a man. i can remember being backstage at the mtv music awards, walking around knowing he was going to perform and i was like, oh, my gosh, i was dressed head to toe in purple, even purple underwear, i had no idea why dithdi did that. just to be in the same building with him. on the other side of prince, when he wasn't working, the man was an amazing student of life. in new york city, you'd see him at the china club or any club and he'd be setting back in the corner and he'd be watching people. he'd be watching people dance, how they reacted to a certain sound in a song or what beat they were listening to. he was constantly, constantly watching and learning. he had never given up that. he didn't think he knew everything at all. and i think that's the one thing about him. he was so humbled.
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and it was really humbling to be even, you know, sitting in a corner maybe a foot away. >> watching. observing. >> that was a special moment. watching him, observing him. unbelievably great. >> julie, i know it's tough because there are so many. what's your favorite song? >> oh, my gosh. well, i'm a girl's girl. he was a girl's girl. he loved them. and his love for vanity was undeniab undeniable. and the loss of her i think -- excuse me, don. the loss of her i think ricochetted a lot into what transpired after. love my sheila e.s and the girls. it's got to be "the most beautiful girl in the world." >> there are people that say that vanity was the love of his life and he was really dealing with her death recently.
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>> yes, and sheila e. and all the girls, i know that they're struggling right now, along with the rest of the world. and we're among the rest of the fans that are really feeling the pain tonight of the loss of prince. and i know that the fans are so true to him that it will be an unbelievable celebration of his life. that's what we're going to look forward to. >> a beautiful girl, julie brown. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, don. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for all the prince love. >> you're welcome. thanks for coming on. this is "prinprince "beautiful " ♪ the most beautiful girl in the world ♪ ♪ it's plain to see you're the reason that god made a girl ♪ courtyard, the official hotel of the nfl,
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♪ the sky was all purple, there were people running everywhere ♪ trying to run from my destruction ♪ you know i didn't even care >> you can't help but bob your
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head, right? as the world mourns the sudden death of prince, we honor all the ways he surprises us. i wish i could see you under better circumstances but it's good to have you on. you wrote "he puts on his bell bottom glittery blue stretch pants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us but his perspective on the world is like his music, constantly surprising." >> he was a rebel in his music and with record companies. he was a trail blazer. he was fighting warner brothers about the right to release his
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albums, when he wanted to release them. and what are we seeing now? artists like beyonce, future, drake and kanye west trying to release them when they want. it's the kind of world that people have embraced now that technology has caught up. >> he was instrumental in that. >> he led the way that artists could speak back to record companies. when he wrote "slave" on his cheek, people said why is he doing that? is he crazy? is it about money? >> it was about autonomy. he wanted to own himself, be emancipated. you got a chance to interview him and his wife. we don't hear much about his wives. >> when i interviewed him in
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1989 back when i was at "time" magazine, for some rain mayte was there. he had her on his lap the entire time. it was kind of a two-for interview. he didn't want me to tape his voice, hoove was afraid i would sample his wife, and he talked about "the mat tricrix," maybe s real in a sense, the movie. this was all done with fun and a wink. >> i'm bet you glad you did that interview. joe, prince spoke with larry king back in 1989. listen to this. >> how would you describe your music? what idiom would you put it in? >> the only thing i could think of because i really don't like categories, but the only thing i could think of is inspirational and i think music that is from the heart falls right into that
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category. people who really feel what it is that they're doing. and ultimately all music is or can be inspirational. and that's why it's so important to let your gift be guided by something more clear. >> sorry. inspirational. what set his music apart? >> you know, when i think about prince, i think about liberation, i think about freedom. and in many ways prince liberated me and so many other people. i think of his song "controversy," when he said am i black, am i white, am i straight, am i gay, do i believe in god, do i believe in me? that was my story. and prince managed for a little kid like me to take my story and manifest it in a five-minute song. that is the true personification of art. prince was able to do that. when you think of a prince fan, you really can't pinpoint who it is. there are some artists you know
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who the fans are. you go to a prince concert, it's black, white, young, old, male, female. he was a true transcendental artist. >> so here's what you said, you tweeted "prince challenged gender constructs, saying things that were taboo for male artists. i thought prince was immortal, that he'd live into his 100s." we have to remember during that time r & b, especially when it came to an artist of color, that was omni present, you sang about conquering women and those sorts of things, and then prince came along with a falsetto voice and afro hair. you never knew what it was but
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you knew it was good. >> he bucked all the constructs. here you have a guy in heels, lace underwear on his face, makeup on and women still love him. he's the kind of guy that could steal your girl in heels. oh, my gosh, prince did this. he was that powerful of an artist. the fact that he was able to buck masculine and fem and still make people be attracted to him and love him -- >> he came of age before the whole social media age where people have to tell everything what they're about, tweeting every day about what they're eating for breakfast, what they're doing. so prince gave interviews but not too many. he projected mystery. people could say he represents me. maybe he's just like me. >> you're so right because so many people put so much into social media, right, that they
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become paranoid. it like why do you care? he didn't have that. he probably didn't really care about, they put so much stock in social media. an artist like prince didn't care. he was doing it for the art of it. >> but when it came to music online, he sold his music online, i don't know if this was true, that he made more money selling his album on crystalball online than he did with "purple rain." >> i want you guys to stay there. i'll get back to you. in prince's hometown, there is an all-night party going on. set the scene for us tonight. >> reporter: that all night dance party you're talking about hasn't quite begun yet. they're stale trying to clear out the space. this is first avenue place. if you saw "purple rain", this is where the music was shot. it was the club that was brought
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to fame because of prince and he was known here as its patron st. look at the crowd. this entire intersection is packed with his fans, people who are stopping here to drop flowers. some of these messages say "rock on, prince." he is their hometown hero. and that star that you see on the corner, what we've seen throughout the night, people stopping by to take pictures. don, when you think about the number of people in this crowd, this entire downtown area is practically shut down, immobilized with people who are mourning, who are sad. it is a festive atmosphere burr they're all collaborating. we actually found a parking space because people were helping us to park. so people are here to mourn but they're also here to celebrate. what we are expecting tonight is that in just a short time they're going to be opening the doors here, they're going to ask
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everyone to come in and remember prince in the way he would want to be remembered, through playing his song and through dancing throughout the night. everyone 18 and older will be allowed to come in and dance the night away. >> look at the size of that crowd. is it a live shot or just pictures of the -- let's look at the -- get a tape of the crowd above. it is unbelievable where kyung is? how many people do you think we're looking at there? do you know? >> reporter: what i do know is that the club has a capacity for 1,550 people. looking over my shoulder here, i don't know if everyone is t. going to get in. we're seeing people make room for new people to come in and take pictures with the star and drop their flowers. it looks like well over 1,500 people, the capacity of this place.
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the people we're talking to here say they're going to try to get in, they want to be a part of the celebration, they want to be here tonight but they may have to spill this into the streets. >> thank you, kyung. we'll check back in with you. before we go one of the most iconic songs prince ever recorded "let's go crazy." today the composer tweeted the first few words of the song "dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life." here it is. ♪ ♪ hey, we're opening up a second shop and we need some new signage. but can't spend a lot.
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the sudden death of prince has fans and celebrities alike remembering the purple one. back with me now, christopher john farley and clay cane. can i read this from justin timberlake. "from another planet probably. royalty for sure. us worthy, meaning are we worthy? laughable. they say don't meet your idols, that they let you down but some
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of my greatest, funniest, yes, he was hilarious and most prolific encounters in music came from him. i am sad but i will smile when i think of every second that i had the fortune of being in his company. we have lost our greatest living musician but his music will never die. prince, nothing compares. now that is a tribute. he influenced -- his influence spanned generations. >> you really can hear so many prince clones, if you will, but in a good way. justin's song, gone, for example. it's a prince song. he used the word prolific there. one thing i think of when i think about prince politically is you think of a song like "sign of the times" when he was talking about hiv and aids in 1987 -- >> i forgot about that. >> you think of songs about
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"america" and "pop life" when he was talking about the era of reagan economics ruining our country. he really had his ear to the streets. in some way prince kind of was our black twitter to some degree. he was political in way that was accessible but it was smart and it was on those tracks that you might have skipped over. i encourage folks to go back and listen to that. >> "pop life," "everybody needs a thrill, pop life, everybody can't be on top, get your million dollar check in somebody else's box." >> amazing. amazing. >> well, you think of acts like the weekend, you think of frank ocean and you think of the influence you can clearly hear in their voices and in their songs that come from prince. that tweet is right that you read from justin timberlake. it's not just the individual art
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i artist, it's also his persona. he borrowed some of his persona from people that came before him, like little richard and chuck berry but he transformed it in his own way. >> you realize you look at prince and that hair and that eyeliner and you go, all right,s that little richard. >> and james brown. >> that's okay. why do people get upset about that? >> if you steal from enough people and make it your own, then it's not plagiarism, you transform it. >> the best form of flattery is what? when somebody copies you. >> he clearly wasn't just copying any one person. he was wasn't just copying james brown, little richard or chuck barry. he turned into something different. he added more sex to it. he added rock 'n' roll to it and it became something identifiable as only prince. >> i want to play something he
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said to tavis smiley. >> the fan base i have now, they're so sophisticated, they almost expect me to do the unexpected. and that gives me room to challenge myself. >> challenge himself, he wanted to challenge the audience. is that what made part what he did so ground breaking? >> i think so. he released albums, sometimes five albums long, and a double album set that really worked. i mean, he was a guy that really set the bar high and that's why people are still trying to match what he did. >> for people who have never gone to a prince concert, take us there. >> i saw prince at giants stadium in new jersey. >> look at your face light up. >> i was a part of the mpg music club, before title, before
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streaming, where you signed up for this club, you got access to music. when he was singing "purple rain," people pulled out purple umbrellas. one thing about prince is his mystique. his entire career, he never really had a scandal. he wasn't tabloid. that's why it is so shocking that he's gone. for some people we saw it coming. for prince we just didn't see this coming. >> we'll be right back. bend me shape me, any way you want me
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so it was the summer of 1984, and i was just driving back from my senior trip from high school from florida and this song came on the radio "when doves cry." and we had never heard anything like this before. what is this song? and we went and immediately bought it and kept playing it over and over and over. so i say to prince thank you, though, for challenging what it's like to be a man and what a man looks like. i appreciate that. and to not let people put you in a box. so that song "when doves cry," it prompted twitter tributes today. "this is what it sounds like when the world cries." oprah -- "the doves really are crying now" and whoopi goldberg
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simply tweeting prince's lyrics. good night. ♪ maybe i'm just like my father, too bold ♪ ♪ maybe you're just like my mother, she's never satisfied ♪ ♪ why do we scream at each other, this is what it sounds like when the doves cry ♪