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questioning. no charges have been filed. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. ♪ ♪ you don't have to be rich to be my girl ♪ ♪ you don't have to be cool to rule my road ♪ ♪ ain't no particular sign i'm more compatible with ♪ ♪ i just want your extra time and your kiss ♪ >> hello, everybody. i'm kate bolduan. i'm john berman. you just want to dance. i just want to start dancing because that's what you do when you hear prince music. the breaking news this morning,
an autopsy under way right now to try to determine what caused the death of the music icon. it has been 24 hours since prince was pronounced dead at his home studio in suburban minneapolis. the mayor of the city says the loss is too large to describe. he was just 57 years old leaving his mark around the world as one of the greatest musical geniuses, and that is no overstatement of his generation and more. >> grammy-winning singer, songwriter, composer, producer, performer, he did everything. he did it all literally. known for playing every instrument, singing every line of many of his songs. a huge party in his honor went throughout the night in his hometown of minneapolis, and that is where we will begin this hour. stephanie elam is outside paisley park studios where prince lived and he died. stephanie, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, kate and john. a lot of people wanting to know exactly what led to his death. we do know that that autopsy is under way at this hour, but i
should point out it will probably be weeks before we know. and this is what happens in every autopsy case. it takes time for them to go through the process that they need to go through and then analyze the data that they get and then release those results. nevertheless, people here still in shock and still mourning. since the sun came up at paisley park, people have been coming out. take a look. i will move out of the shot so you can see it, how many people are out here now paying their respects, putting up flowers, balloons, leaving messages. there's even purple candles out there burning. people really revered prince in this community. keep in mind, he was a native son. he was from here. he never left. always kept his home here. his compound here. as you see behind the fence there. that meant a lot to the people of minnesota because, you know, a lot of times when people blow up and become ultra famous, they go live in one of the big cities. he didn't do that. he stayed here and that meant a lot to the people here who are trying to digest this news and why a man at 57 would be gone so
soon, john and kate. >> it was a mutual love affair between prince and minneapolis. completely requited love, if you will. he loved minneapolis, minneapolis loved him. stephanie elam, thanks so much. we're going to talk more about prince right now. joining us now is the host of cnn's "united shades of america," corey murray. currently ceo of fenton communications. and zena burns who has worked with prince and heads moxie coalition. corey, you were in brooklyn last night during the celebration there. we were talking to sheila e this morning about what -- how prince would want to be remembered. she goes he wouldn't want people to mourn. he'd want people to celebrate. >> party. >> dance and party which is what happened last night. >> can i tell you, i was in traffic. i was so mad at the cab driver. i was like get me to ft. green. when we got there, it was beautiful like purple rain, they were playing that. there was someone there holding
an umbrella with an illustration of prince's face around the umbrella. people were crying. people were holding up their phones. that crescendo of that moment. everyone was singing along. it was a beautiful moment. i think it's right, prince, i'm sure he is smiling from heaven saying this is how we want to be remembered. >> we're looking at some of the video. we saw a lot of video. kind of in this whole moment of everyone celebrating together and coming together in brooklyn. it was really, really beautiful to see and it was amazing you were able to be there with it. bill, you were the editor of billboard during the relaunch of magazine when that -- i think we can call it that iconic cover for billboard magazine in 2013. >> that's right. >> why did you guys choose prince? someone who had already had such a long career. why was he the image for the relaunch of "billboard"? >> we were looking for someone that, you know, just had that factor, right? like had that magical factor
that you always want to know about this person and this person has untouchable musical integ ritz, right? and so it's a very short list of people, right, that aren't overexposed. prince was never over exposed. he didn't like to talk about prince. so, yeah, it was kind of perfect. that experience, if i may, you know, it led to one of the funnier moments i actually had with prince. >> about that cover? >> about that cover because that cover almost didn't happen. it wound up winning all sorts of awards but it almost didn't happen. 11th hour, like the 13th or 15th hour. we had no image because prince was going to supply some images at that time. he was not going to be photographed. and we had nothing. printer is calling me. it was really, really getting panicked. >> you're going to have to hand deliver the "billboard" -- >> i'm sending panicked texts from his manager. the manager is like prince is with me. he picked out the image. he knows you're going to love it. i will e-mail it. i'm hitting refresh, refresh,
refresh and this image starts downloading and it's a picture of a random old woman who has nothing to do with prince. and then, of course, three minutes later we get three images, one more beautiful than the next. it's an embarrassment of riches and that was prince. he really never lost his sense of humor in the midst of certain intense moments or at least like to screw with journalists. >> he liked to mess with your head. >> it was his way of saying i am in complete control of this and everything. >> every aspect of his career. >> it really was prince. we are men of a certain age, right? which means for us in junior high we grew up to prince. we were introduced to the concept of naughty in some ways by prince. >> i think i discovered women when apollonia went into the waters of lake minnetonka. i was like, hmm, ladies you say? >> i understand the sophistication of that. as we look back and think today at all the attention that's being paid, to me it's a true ameritocracy because he was so
incredibly talented. i mean, just exploding with talent. >> and i think that's why everybody feels like they have a piece of him. like his music went across boundaries, across genres, and in his final act he let us know you need to value this music because this morning when i'm like i'm going to listen to some prince music, i couldn't find it, i had to pay for it. i feel that's another lesson we have to talk about is how he told artists, control your careers. don't let business people take advantage of you. it's your image and your career. >> he gave up his name for years. >> every artist, taylor swift and everybody wants to control their careers. >> he blazed every trail you could want to blaze. >> from that frustration with the industry and wanting to push the industry to be better, that is something that came up in conversations that you had with prince. you had a lot of first-hand kind of -- these conversations with
prince not only about the industry but also about artists who lost their lives too soon, but about that frustration that he had with the industry. what did he say? >> oh, boy, where to start. you know, as you guys were saying, he felt very, very strongly that artists need to control their careers. several times he referred to the music industry as being nefarious. i think there was that business aspect to it, but then there is also like the personal, the life aspect to it. at one point i asked him why he felt so passionately about working with really unknown developing artists and trying to get them a name out there, and he said that he'd been thinking a lot about amy winehouse recently, and that this nefarious music industry sends young artists on such high peaks and such low valleys where they don't necessarily get support that he felt he had a duty to help make people stronger songwriters and more confident in their musicianship so that
when they did hit those valleys, they had more confidence and they could deal with it in maybe a more healthy way than he considered, you know, amy winehouse to have, for whom he had a lot of respect for her talent. >> fascinating. >> it's funny, one of my most cherished memories during my time at "billboard" was getting a call, it was an afterparty for the 2013 grammy awards and i got this frantic call. i was actually back at my hotel after the grammys trying to get a quick disco nap an i get this call and it's prince is coming to the afterparty and he wants to speak to you. prince wants to speak to you. >> i'll take that call. >> when i got there, we sat down in a little cabana and all he wanted to talk about -- he spoke about -- was the music business and the way it treated artists unfairly. he thought you're the editor of "billboard" you need to be a vessel for speaking truth to power. he spoke in literally biblical firms, not flattering biblical
terms about the music business. >> people knew he was sick. he had the flu last week, but other than that, you know, everyone thought prince was a guy who kept incredibly healthy. always in shape vocally. what questions to you have about his death? >> when the news broke, it was the first time as a journalist, maybe because i had loved prince and i'm wearing purp until honor of him today, i didn't want to know why he died. i didn't want to know the cause of death. i wanted him to remain this icon in my head, but now to see these things coming out, it is making me sort of question him, but i'm trying not to just keep my memory of him intact, the man and the music that i love because like you, like he was great. he was really passionate about his image. he was passionate about his story. he allowed our writer when he did our june 2014 cover story,
he's like i'm going to let you take notes. he usually wouldn't let you take notes. >> i wouldn't let our reporter take notes. forget about recording. >> he wants you to listen. he basically said i want you to listen to me and leave with the essence. >> and you kind of feel the same way. do you feel the same way, that you don't want to -- you don't need to know the details? >> i don't care how he died. for his family and friends, he's gone. he's dead. but for those of us who don't know him, i feel like today i'm the only black person who didn't have a prince story, but -- >> i'll share a couple of mine. >> thank you. but i feel like the music is alive. his legacy is alive. his example is alive. we live in sort of a tmz world. who knows what happened. we will debate that forever in barber shopshops in my communit. >> thanks so much. really, really interesting discussion. >> interesting discussion and you can still hear more from kamau bell in a bit of a turn on
sunday. his show premieres this sunday. "united shades of america." the first episode it is truly amazing. he comes face to face with the kkk. >> by choice, by the way. gee takes it on in the kamau way, with biting humor and intelligence. that's this sunday night 10:00 p.m. right here on cnn. can't wait for that. >> brand new this morning, audio tape surfaces, recording surface of donald trump's top adviser admitting to republican insiders that donald trump is playing a kind of a part. that he's a different guy behind closed doors, but this recording doesn't stop there. we'll discuss. plus, inside the vault. prince reportedly with hundreds, maybe thousands of songs finished yet unreleased. who is in charge of that now? more on the loss of an icon. that's ahead. ♪ ♪ they stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all ♪
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so will the real donald trump please stand up? that is the big question today it seems after his top campaign adviser, paul man naformanafort republican leaders his private persona is different from the part he plays publicly and he is now more ready to shift to a more presidential image. listen to this. >> trump is an outsider. so he's sitting in a room, he's talking business, he's talking politics in a private room. it's a different persona. when he's out on the stage, when he's talking about the kinds of things he's talked about on the stump, he's projecting an image that's for that purpose. he's evolving into the part you
were expecting but he wasn't ready for. >> cnn's phil mattingly is live in hollywood, florida, the sight of the rnc's annual spring meeting. i think the most consequential rnc spring meeting of all time. >> reporter: you might be right. the rules committee meeting were packed. i think there were more reporters than rnc meetings. i think the interesting thing besides the potential as we walk into a contested convention in cleveland in a couple months is this, 168 rnc members, state party chairs, local officials. not only is that basically john berman's dream scenario as a reporter to talk about gop politics, but it's a difficult scenario for donald trump's advisers, and that's exactly why they were down here in force meeting one-on-one with several of the committee members, talking to people in the hallways, at the pool, near the beach, but also in this presentation that they had. more than 45-minute presentation, and part of the point of the presentation is to say, look, we know what donald
trump has been like at rallies. we know how he sounded, how he's come across, how he's attacked many of the people sitting in this room, but he's shifted. listen to what paul manafort said specifically about the rnc. >> is donald trump running against the republican national committee? the answer is he is not. he is concerned about what he considers to be a transparency issue where the voters are voting for something and the rules might be something else regarding the selection of delegates. he is not trying to change the rules in this process. he's winning. he's not interested in changing the rules. but he believes that starting the conversation, it's good to do in this time frame because this is when we're all facing the issues. >> reporter: guys, it's important to note that this relationship is far more important than just dealing with the primary and the general electi the rnc will be crucial, they have data infrastructure, digital infrastructure.
trump's advisers at least behind the scenes trying to mend fences. >> phil, thanks so much. let's discuss this and more right now with barry bennett, senior adviser to the trump campaign, kaly, cnn political commentator, errol louis, and political anchor for time warner cable news doug hie former rnc communications director and dan pfeiff pfeiffer, former adviser to president obama. barry, let's begin where we were right there, with phil mattingly. what is going on here. different persona in public, different persona in private. playing a part as paul manafort puts it. is that true? >> i don't know that i wouldn't use the words playing a part necessarily, but when you're speaking to a crowd of 20,000 people in an arena trying to get an emotional reaction out of them, you say one thing. when you're in private, of course, you don't do those things. it would be kind of weird actually. >> does that mean we shouldn't
pay attention to what he's saying in public? >> no. what he's saying in public is working. he has 300 more delegates than anybody else. >> working but can you take him at his word? >> oh, yeah, sure. i don't think he meant to say that, that he doesn't mean what he says. >> but the implication is that he's going to tone it down in private. you will see a different donald trump when you meet with him in person, and you, rnc officials, will be able to work with that. you may not be able to work with the guy out on stage, but you can work with the private donald trump. >> the personal donald trump is very gregarious, huge personality, very bill clinton-like almost. he's never met a stranger, can talk to you about anything, and as we move to the general election, of course, there's a pivot away. they're not going to be talking about ted cruz and john kasich all the time. >> errol, consider the audience where paul manafort was laying this out. he was with rnc -- he was with party people, right? is that what they want to hear? does that work? >> i imagine they needed to hear something resembling that or paul manafort wouldn't have
offered it to them. i don't know how believe it is, and, you know, you have a multi-month set of experiences. if you start sort of picking through it, it's, okay, which of the things was he playing a part on? is he no longer going to call for people to be beaten at his rallies if they do a demonstration? is he no longer going to indulgs personal appearance, will he drop the profanity from the podium? which of these things is going to change? and i think probably if the representatives can get real answers to those things, perhaps there will be some sort of a change. i personally wouldn't bet on that. i don't see any reason because just as you suggest, it's worked for him up until now. why would he change now? >> doug, you know these people who are meeting right now in hollywood, florida. you know the republican insiders because you're one -- no, you worked at the rnc. genuine real question here, can any of those people be won over?
are there people who can go to the donald trump side right now in hollywood? >> sure. there are people who want to hear donald trump's message. and that's what's so interesting about what paul manafort said. there's a sad cliche in politics that the ultimate gaffe is telling the truth and that's what paul manafort clearly did to that audience to try to reassure them, possibly not thinking these comments would go public, but we know donald trump has been playing a role for a long time. kate and john, we have talked about this a lot. i thought he was playing the part of a bad guy professional wrestler to incite the crowd. perhaps now he's going to try to be the good guy professional wrestler. his support is baked in with his supporters. they're very loyal. the problem he faces is so are the high negatives he has. >> and will those change. they say they will change and will change especially up against hillary clinton. let's talk about something else moving away from this public/private kind of conversation. we're going to talk to the cruz campaign in just a moment. donald trump's comments yesterday about transgender
bathroom policies, do you think that it will hurt him, what he said yesterday, with social conservatives in places like especially my home state indiana? >> i don't think so. because, look, at the end of the day it should be a state issue and that's what donald trump has said. the states should decide this and i think there's two things at play. here he said i have no problem with caitlyn jenner coming in and using the restroom in trump towers. most of us would be fine with that. there's another issue at play, we don't want men taking advantage of this and going into the women's restroom. donald trump was saying we haven't had those problems, let's leave it to the state. >> he didn't say it was a state issue. what he actually said was that he understands the business leaders complaining about what north carolina did because donald trump says he doesn't see a problem that north carolina was trying to solve right there. he actually took a stand on what north carolina says is a state issue. so the question is will that stand, that he thinks that
transgender people should use whatever bathroom they're comfortable with? >> he gave his opinion. yes, he thinks the status quo should be the status quo but at the end of the day he said this is north carolina for decide. >> modifying his position as folks projected he would need to do. he did that with sean hannity last night. dan, let's talk about the democrats unless you want to weigh in on any of this and flees feel free to do so -- >> and i may. >> i kind of anticipated hearing your giggle that you were going to. sanders, bernie sanders last night, yesterday, in pennsylvania did not seem to, despite there were a lot of calls publicly for him to change his tone, tone it down, modulate his tone is how you described it, john, which i really like how you said that, after his new york loss. you've been involved in a hard-fought primary battle. you have been involved in a primary battle that went long into the primary season. at this point can he change his
tone? if you were involved, would you advise that he change his tone at this point? what would that say to his supporters? >> i'd say a couple things. first, i think bernie sanders should stay in this race until the last primary. he has had -- i heard tad devine make this point the other day, millions of people around the country have contributed to the campaign and volunteered and the bernie sanders supporters in the remaining states should have the opportunity to vote for their candidate. i think bernie sanders over time does need to modulate if we want to use john's s.a.t. word his tone so he's not giving republicans additional ammunition. but, look, losing campaigns is hard, right? it is -- there are like several stages of grief you go through both for the candidate, the candidate's staff, and the supporters, and this is going to take some time for him to do that. i think tuesday looks like -- it looks like it's going to be a very hard day for the sanders campaign. these are states clinton has won and won big recently and we'll see what comes after that.
hillary clinton in the exact same position bernie sanders was in 2008 after a period of time when it became basically mathematically impossible for her to win, she changed her tone. she campaigned hard. she made her case. she pointed out where she was different from president obama but she was careful to begin to build a bridge to her supporters to support president obama in the fall, and i suspect and certainly hope that bernie sanders will do that sooner rather than later. >> you know, you mention next week tuesday, a lot of states vote in the mid-atlantic and northeast. pennsylvania is one of them. hillary clinton, by the way, leading in all the polls we've seen. donald trump leading in all the polls on the republican side, barry bennett. there's a report that you're spending $2 million on advertising in pennsylvania. there are 17 delegates that will be bound, awarded, winner take all by state but there are 54 unbound free agent delegates. how does $2 million ad spending help with those free agent delegates? >> well, because those free agent delegates aren't really free agent delegates. many of them are identified supporters of somebody, and so
you help those people run for office. you know, the term unbound delegate is probably the worst moniker used to describe these delegates because there are very few delegates who are like i just can't decide which one to go for. some of them are very quiet and keep it close to the vest but there are a lot of people in pennsylvania running for unbound spots that are trump supporters and we're helping them. >> how do you think you're going to do? >> just fine. >> just fine. we'll go deeper on that as we get closer. thank you very much. all of you, really appreciate it. the cruz campaign with a tough new ad against donald trump and his stance on transgender issues. we're going to have the cruz campaign joining us next. plus, inside the final days of prince. the health problems that he had just over the last few weeks. it's pretty eerie words to a crowd just days ago. ♪
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us. you look at what his campaign manager says is that this is just an act. this is just a show. >> all right. cruz is also seizing on trump's criticism of controversial state bathroom bill saying trump is on the wrong side of the issue. joining us now to talk with chad sweet, the national chairman of the ted cruz campaign. he joins us from hollywood, florida, right now. thanks so much for being with us, chad. you know, you guys, you came out with an ad -- >> glad to be with you. >> -- within hours. donald trump yesterday morning said
he thought the transgender people should use whatever bathrooms they're comfortable with. he said it yesterday mornin on the "today" show. within a few hours you had a campaign ad out. let's watch. >> people go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate.
>> so as you saw the words up on the screen said, you said, essentially that transgender people are men pretending to be
women. pretending to be women. is the official position of the cruz campaign that that's what transgender people are, men pretending to be women? >> look, our fundamental position is this is not an issue for the federal government. senator cruz -- >> that's not what the ad says. the ad we just played. that's not what the ad says. it says men pretending to be women. i'm just asking if that is the position of ted cruz and the campaign, that that's what transgender people are. >> as you saw in the ad, those were the words that donald trump -- the point that we're making is a fundamental constitutional point which is that north carolina as a state has the right to decide bathroom laws, and our position is that
it's not unreasonable for that state to take the position that grown men should not be allowed in little girl's bathrooms. so it's not also surprising that a man like donald trump, who has been a liberal his entire life up until recently when he converted once he decided to run for the presidency on the republican side of the aisle, he's been a liberal on supporting partial birth abortion, funding planned parenthood. he's said over and over that once i'm president, you'll be surprised how i can be politically correct. well, it looks like he's started a little bit early. >> so you -- i actually don't recall donald trump saying pretending. that was the words that you guys put on the screen. again, is that the position of the campaign though, chad, that transgender folks are men pretending to be women? >> look, i'm going to keep saying what we've said before is that this issue is an issue to be decided at the state level. senator cruz -- >> okay. >> is a strict constitutional conservative. >> so then you agree now with donald trump, because donald
trump said last night you guys were on the same page then. >> whenever -- we don't know whether we're on the same page because donald -- he's on every side of every page. you know, it's one of the most frustrating things about running a campaign against him is that literally it's like he came from and bought a company that's involved with wrestling where you pretend to wrestle and it's like an inside joke where he comes down here to the rnc where i am today. he tells -- his staff tells people here, yeah, he's on one page on one day but don't take him seriously because actually it's entertainment, just like worldwide wrestling, and tomorrow he'll be on a different page. that's what paul manafort conveyed right here in florida. it's one of the things that makes ted cruz very different. if you want to be entertained, i think the american voters take the selection of their president very seriously. if they wanted to be to a movie entertained. if they want a consistent, proven conservative, they know ted cruz is the right candidate to choose. >> let's listen to your guy right now.
ted cruz is on stage at an event in pennsylvania right now. let's dip in for a second. >> there is a reason why donald trump is screaming so loud that he wants me to get out of this race, because donald knows he can't earn a majority. donald is a divisive figure with a hard cap of about 35% to 40% in just about every state, and at the convention he can't earn a majority and, you know, i'm sorry to say there are a lot of folks in the media who are echoing donald's call to give him the election even though donald loses to hillary clinton, and donald loses to hillary clinton by double digits. i beat hillary clinton. i beat hillary clinton in the key swing states. i beat hillary clinton with independents. i beat hillary clinton with young people. >> but in fairness he is winning with voters. it's not just the media. >> let's be clear. he won his home state of new york but prior to that three weeks in a row there were five states that voted. utah, wisconsin, north dakota, colorado, wyoming.
we won landslides in five elections in a row. five elections in a row, and, by the way, 1.3 million people voted in those five elections. you know, donald's incessant whining and crying, donald doesn't handle losing very well. and so when the voters voted against him, he made up this nonsense about the system being rigged and it being stolen from him. i'll tell you, it is not a stolen election when the voters vote against you, and donald is seeing the voters reject him over and over again. i won more votes in wisconsin than donald trump did in new york, and so the media fawning breathlessly that donald won his home state is really quite ridiculous. if donald is the nominee, we lose. let me point something else out, donald trump is telling the american people that he's lying to us. yesterday donald trump agreed with hillary clinton and barack obama and donald trump argued
that grown men should be allowed to go into girl's restrooms. listen, this isn't even a very of left or right or conservative or republican. it's basic common sense that grown adult men, strangers, should not be alone in the bathroom with little girls. as the father of two daughters, i know and anyone with any common sense knows that's a terrible idea, and donald trump told us just a few months ago he could be the most politically correct person in the world. his campaign is now run by washington lobbyists, and he is embracing the politically correct nonsense. i disagree with donald trump. i do not think we should have adult men in bathrooms with little girls, and we're tired of new york liberals, whether hillary clinton or donald trump, imposing crazy politically correct policies on the working men and women of this country. >> pennsylvania, the way they elect delegates. how many of the people running for delegate have you even
contacted because that's going to be important. the popular vote means nothing this part of the year. >> listen, this election will be decided by the people. we're campaigning across the state. we're barnstorming the state. we're on a bus tour right now traveling the state working to earn the support of the men and women of pennsylvania. you know, a lot of folks in the media want to paint pennsylvania as a suburb of manhattan. i think the people of pennsylvania have a lot more common sense than the liberal elite democrats in new york. it was striking, on tuesday -- >> you have been listening to ted cruz in williamsport, pennsylvania, talking about a number of things including the path of this campaign going forward. he essentially says that he's been beating donald trump. he says pay no attention to the new york primary where donald trump hit 60%. remember wisconsin, remember the one i won. chad sweet is the national chair for the ted cruz campaign. he joins us right now. let's continue along the themes of what senator cruz was just
talking about. there's an election where five states vote on tuesday. which of those states is ted cruz going to win? >> look, we feel we're going to be very competitive in those states. we'll recognize that it's not the easiest stretch for this campaign. we know that the northeast is going to be a tough patch for us, but, again, this is all about running a national campaign, and if you look at right after next tuesday what you're going to see is we'll be going into the midwest and then ultimately the far west predomina predominantly, and you will see prior to new york we actually have won the majority of states outside the south and the northeast. the midwest and the west have been very good to senator cruz because, again, they value the consistent conservative values the senator represents and his optimistic message on jobs, freedom, and security. >> do you think there is a good chance you're not going to win a state next week? >> no.
we feel very good we'll win a number of delegates. it's about winning delegates, not about winning states. if you look at again our ability to go in these states right now are set up, many of them, where you have individual races in a congressional district level. the s'more is always willing to go anywhere anytime anyplace to deliver his positive conservative solutions to those voters. and what's also critical to see is that the mantra that somehow donald trump has become the presumptive nominee after new york is ridiculous. if you look at -- he would have to win over two-thirds of pennsylvania in order to take the majority of those delegates of that state because of the way it's set up, and here is what i would ask everyone watching the show is, you know, show me anywhere that donald trump has ever exceeded 75% or 67% of the vote. he just hasn't done it. the only state he's won the majority in was in new york, and senator cruz has won several states where he's won over the majority of the state. so our fundamental point is that this is going to remain a high lie contested convention.
the senator is working hard to earn the vote of every citizen and every delegate and you will see us go all the way to the finish line and demonstrate that his message is resonating with the voters. >> take your point. chad sweet, joining us. the fact is donald trump is the only candidate who has the math to get to 1237 before the convention at this point. no other candidate has that opportunity, but, chad -- >> no, that's not actually correct. >> you have to win 101% -- minus pennsylvania, you have to win 101%. >> if you look at the bound and unbound delegates it's not true we can't have a path. the fundamental point is donald trump, if you're accurate in the media, you should be reporting it's extraordinarily difficult for him to also get to 1237 before the end of the primary process. >> and we're making that point every day. thats hard for everybody. >> okay. >> chad sweet, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thanks, chad. and it continues, the fight continues. any moment we're looking at this
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twin cities, world show love for prince's purple imagine industry. part of . >> that part of that was an epic all night long party. his honor at the first avenue dance club downtown. that is where so much of "purple rain" the film was made and song was recorded. >> here is a look at just some of the ground breaking generation defining hits that those people were dancing to and singing along with all night long. songs that were such a huge part of the '80s and beyond. we're still singing those songs today. here's a listen.
>> i could listen to that forever. >> one of the most moving conversations we've seen forever looking far at the life of prince and the impact he's had is one of his role models, stevie wonder. >> stevie and prince. this is part of stevie wonder's interview with anderson cooper. >> you know, i love "purple rain." i love the whole album. it was incredible. but i love all the stuff that he did. you know, the song that i liked the whole album but i think like an interesting kind of song. but again, as people i heard say
earlier today on cnn, it was someone that said he was able to mix the blessing of life and god and yet the marriage of sex and passion. so that's very, very true. he had fun doing it and, you know, it's rare for me that i can feel, you know, with every single breath how he just passionately loved music. it's like when musicians can jam, there's nothing like it in the whole world. i guess it's like when ballplayers are playing and excited about the game. it's the same thing with us as musicians to say, you can do that? let me do this. and you do that. and i do that. it's a lot of fun and he was incredible with that.
a lot to talk about this morning. >> a lot of fence mending may be going on. some of the talk was on the fight that continued against isis and president obama publishing in the telegraph the opinion piece. the importance of britain in the european union. something that was met with backlash after it was published and be sure that is part of the questioning. david cameron will be taking to the podium and bring that news
conference, press conference to you live. >> these are always very good. very energetic when the two leaders get together to answer questions from the combined press corps of the two nations. the news conference begins at any moment now. we'll turn it over to ashleigh banfield and jake tapper. hi, everybody. welcome. i'm ashleigh banfield and this is "legal view" but we begin with the breaking news of what you see on your screen in london where at any moment, you're about to hear from president obama and the british prime minister david cameron. we've got some video from early on as they were heading in to talk front and center on the agenda and it's a big one. a push to intensify the war on isis. plus, britain's very big and upcoming vote on whether or not to leave the european union and it's a move that could have a lasting impact on americans here at home. the meeting at downing street earlier and