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a little bit of losing because of this global trade pack or this european trade pack. he said, you know, all of these multilateral organizations and treaties that we've signed demand it but that's a relatively small price to pay. it was really very interesting on the brexit question and on syria, on prince, the singer, and on the queen. he said, you know, i really came here to say good-bye, farewell, as president to her majesty, one of the people i love most in the world. really, really interesting on that level as well. >> thank you, christian. let's get to fareed zakaria. >> he said that president obama
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because of his kenyan energy and why he removed the winston churchill bust while keeping a different bust in the private residence of the white house. obviously, trying to make it clear to the british people. he said, i love the guy, when talking about winston churchill. >> that's right and boris johnson misplayed his hand. i grew up in india, a former british colony and i can tell you people in kenya and india, the former british empire have genuinely warm feelings about britain. as a result of that, people generally admire the great british leaders. i don't think there's any likelihood it had anything to do
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with that. boris johnson, of course, was really upset that obama came out as publicly and forcefully as he did on the brexitor issue and i think that was motivating that nasty aside. and i think as put clearly something america cares about not for britain's sake but the united states sake. the stakes are high. winston churchill urged the united states to fight against hitler. he was interfering in a very deep debate in the united states at the time. the stakes are very high now. if britain leaves europe, the united states loses its closest ally that has the ability to influence europe. what does that mean? sanctions against russia. sanctions against iran. the broadening of the free market in europe and the question of what the european foreign and defense policy is, what european economic policies whether it is more pro american
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or pro atlantis. they are ones on which britain has been a progressive force from the american point of view. it has furthered american ideas within the european union. if britain were to leave, for the united states, that's a big deal. you have a europe that's then run entirely by the french and the germans and close allies, they do not share quite the same world view that britain and the united states do. >> i'm joined by cnn white house correspondent michelle kosinski live in london and chief correspondent jim sciutto and cnn contributor and co-author of "isis: inside the army of terror," michael weisz. let me start with you, michelle. some of the interesting things that came out of the press conference had to do with a
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warning that the british foreign office put out to members of the u.k. lgbt community when it comes to traveling in certain parts of the united states. >> reporter: right, and neither side wanted to get too contentious on this. we heard first, president obama respond to it even hit was directed to the priep minister. president obama wanted to first defend the first two states saying how lovely and beautiful they are and if they went to the two states, they would be treated well. the prime minister also somewhat punlt punon this and feel it isy he feels but doesn't necessarily agree with the laws but didn't want to get too critical. i thought it was interesting that after president obama delivered this long detailed opinion on the british upcoming referendum, i mean, going into pretty much every aspect of it. even though he is saying it is just an opinion and he doesn't have a vote, when the prime
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minister was asked how he felt about the upcoming american elections, he completely punted on it. he didn't want to put his opinion on there. he did say though that the british watched the american election with a sense of awe, jake. >> that's right. he had been very critical of donald trump, especially donald trump's proposal to temporarily ban non-citizen muslims to the united states and no longer wanted to add or subtract to his comments. nick robertson. a lot of our viewers might not be up to speed on what's being called brexit. the idea of britain leaving the european union but president obama saying he thinks he's a bad idea. the first question for the president. why should the british people care when you think, mr. president? >> reporter: on the streets here, jake, we've been asking people. they've been able to read what the president has written so passionately in the telegraph newspaper. we've been asking them what they
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think about it. is it okay for the american president to come here and give his opinion? and by and large, everyone we've talked to said yes. he should give his opinion. we'll listen to it and some of them have made their minds up and they were open to hear what the most powerful politician in the world has to say. british people respect the office of the presidency and certainly respect president obama. president obama's right, if you will, to express his opinions as they're so carefully framed as they are heard here in terms of national security and interest in the united states. but, you know, the debate at the moment here in brintain. people have two months to the referendum and do they want to be inside the european union or outside and those like boris johnson and others like prime minister cabinet say it's better to be out because we can negotiate a better trade deal
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for ourselves and we're not under this umbrella of europe that's imposing laws on us and imposing changes that we don't want. diminishing in some way our nationality. diminishing our interests and our right and our ability to exercise our rights and internationally so. these are some very, deep passionate issues but one on the streets here they find it hard to grapple with is which politician is telling them the truth? what are the facts and details based on the economic issue and that's one of the things coming to the fore. will britain and i think this issue will come to dominate more. will britain dominate in or out? they'll say the government is scare mongering people saying the country will be poorer when it leaves but we heard president obama saying the same things. if britain leaves, it will be poorer, it will be better off economically if it stays in. and that may yet to prove to be
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the pocketbook issue. the most decisive issue as people go to vote, jake. >> indeed, but also said the emotional ties, the cultural and intellectual ties will remain, of course. michael weisz, cnn contributor and author of the big "isis: inside the army of terror" what did you hear from the two leaders when it comes to the fight against isis? when it comes to the stronghold isis is gaining in libya? >> well, i think the u.s. and great britain are the most aligned on this issue. a lot of foreign fighters that have come to join isis came from the united kingdom. i've seen the problem that britain has with radicalization and isis in one of its latest propaganda videos literally put a bull's eye or targeting site superimposed above the head of david cameron in other words saying you're next. >> so the u.s. has got a very, very integral role to play with the u.k. that said, look.
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it is a big coy and a bit cute, i think to say the libyan intervention went well and we're working to rebuild the country. it's a failed state. they have a sizable garrison there. it is considered to be either a fallback base in the event that they lose raqqa and mosul. it puts them on a close trajectory to striking at europe. i mean, they're about 500 miles away from the coast of italy. and this is part of a growing project reemphasized in the wake of the spectacular terror attacks in europe and looking at the provinces outside of the realm of the caliphate. and they have a franchise in afghanistan and won in the sinai peninsula. they see themselves as the ja
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jihadi national. they can negotiate how to best combat the threat of isis both in the region and on its own soil is so crucial to america's national security. >> what's interesting also, michael, the idea that president obama had been critical of prime minister cameron in that interview in "the atlantic" when it comes to libya policy saying he became distracted by a range of other things that didn't come up at the press conference. i would have liked to heard what he said about that but let me go to jim alive and in control the murderous regime of bashar al assad in syria. >> it was a remarkable moment. you had the president there and confronted with the sad fact this cease-fire is only a cease-fire in name.
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you have russia with enormous resources there and moving military pieces and personnel in the places they weren't before and defending the regime, as you say. he kind of defended himself by saying, his words were i'm always skeptical after putin's and it's a low bar to say it's a halfway there and it lasted longer than expected. why the enormous effort and investment in u.s. capital and frankly, his own capital and credibility in this cease-fire, not to mention his secretary of state, john kerry? why that enormous investment if from the beginning you doubted putin's motives and surprised it's lasted this long, frankly not that long. but then went on to say to double down on that strategy and say, there aren't great options so we'll try again if it falls apart. i don't know who that gets confidence to. does it give confidence to the moderate rebels on the ground or vladimir putin to say we know
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you've broken this but we're going to give it another try and it was an interesting throwing up of the hands on u.s./syria policy which is fairly remarkable. the other point i would make about libya is there's a lot of talk about how they mentioned it here a new power center for isis and in fact, this is where many of the european recruits and a lot of bombs dropping on their heads and saying no ground troops there. eliminating that as a response to it which has been talked about in military circles as well. so there you have two major security challenges. the war in syria and libya growing as an isis stronghold but immediately taking a lot of options off the table. >> very interesting and it will be food for thought for the next president of the united states, whoever it is. jim sciutto, thank you so much. another breaking news story. the autopsy of music legend prince is under way and the investigation into the cause of his death. that is right after this. you both have a
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up first now, how could a music legend be gone so soon and so suddenly?
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an autopsy being performed today to determine what caused the death of the music super star, prince. paramedics called to the paisley park studios yesterday after he was found unresponsive inside an elevator. they were unfortunately unable to revive him and he was pronounced dead at 10:07 a.m. as news of his death spread, fans took to the streets to remember. spike lee throwing him impromptu street parties and lit up to honor prince in purple, of
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course, and the fitting scene. the minnesota twins baseball park in purple as well as the rain was falling yesterday. and mayor of chan hathan minnesota and joins us live now. i want to thank you for joining us today. >> reporter: well, it's nice to be with you, jim. and welcome to chan hassan. >> mr. mayor, we know the autopsy got under way this morning. very quickly, give us an update if you can on the investigation so far into prince's death. invn cooperation with the sheriff's office. the sheriff will address the media regarding the death of prince at that time. >> now, do you have any sense as to how quickly autopsy results would be out? you wouldn't expect them as soon
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as this afternoon, i imagine. >> i am not familiar with the process of criminal apprehension us used, jim. that's independent of activities that are going on inside city hall. >> to be clear to viewers, we'll follow the results of the press conference but mayor, i want to ask you more about prince himself. in a statement, you said the following. that prince, quote, helped to shape the character and quality of the community there. what was it like to have this music icon living there in chan has et? >> amazingly, jim, prince lived here. the community didn't treat him in the same way that people around the world did. and maybe that's something that he liked about chanhassen, he cowl be a neighbor. go to the local grocery store and not be mobbed by people saying, oh, oh, that's prince!
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let's go there. so i think he saw chanhassen as the kind of community he could perhaps escape from whatever busy music industry world that he was operating in for the most part. and he would come to chanhassen. he had a wonderful studio that you see behind me. i think he saw chanhass ren in much of the same way. this is a wonderful place to live, enjoy life, enjoy the amenities of the community. to i cannot know what was inside prince's head but based on the personal reports of people who live in chanhassen, they share stories of personal relationship with prince. not as somebody on a huge pedestal, but somebody who was right next door to them. >> mayor, we've seen people leaving things outside of his
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studio as well as other places key to his career and a small gathering after the health care scare he suffered last week. i'm curious. any plans for a permanent memorial to honor him there? >> jim, i'm glad you asked that question. prince owns a lot of property in chanhassen and we have no plans right now or understanding right now of what prince paisley park enterprises has for the future of either the studio or the surrounding land but i can assure you that the city council and the citizens of chanhassen spend a good deal of time to think about the best way to honor and memorialize this incredible icon who happened to choose chanhassen for his home. >> danny laufenburger and our thoughts for the community for your loss. >> well, jim, thank you very much. and i just want to say to all of your listeners and your watchers
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that chanhassen is open. we would love to have people come for as long as they choose to to paisley park to pay their tribute. we'll have appropriate public safety personnel to ensure their safety and their safety while they're here and we just open up chanh chanhassen to the entire world. come visit and pay your tribute to prince. thank you. >> a big part of the world mourning as well. we'll talk about the cause of te investigation for prince. what can this autopsy tell us? before the break, we want to show a really rare moment. here is james brown in 1983 introducing prince on stage for a special called james bound and friends. michael jackson was there too. take a look. >> introduce prince. prince. prince. if you have medicare
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welcome back. newspapers around the world paying tribute to prince from headlines like this one from the
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winnipeg free press. end of his purple reign. it was the date of his life and death and while these span different countries, the sentiment very much the same. each mourning the loss of one of the great artists of our time who appeal to so many. what clues do we have now about what caused the death of prince at just 57 years old? joining us now is dr. jan garivaligariva lr gariv garivallia. also hosts discovery channel dr. g and joined by chief medical respondent dr. sanjay gupta from atlanta. dr. g., i wonder if i can start with you. the statement from the medical examiner's office said the following. as part of a complete exam, relevant information regarding prince's medical and social history will be gathered. anything which is relevant in the investigation will be taken into investigation.
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in your experience, what does social history mean? >> that's taken prior to every autopsy. history would be what is his lifesty lifestyle? does he do drugs? what kind of hobbies does he do? those things would all be very pertinent to -- >> i think we lost audio there. oh, she's back. we lost the audio. but behavioral things like drug use? >> absolutely correct. everything they do to impact their life and their death would be taken into consideration and then you would use that information with what you find at autopsy and what you find at toxicology. i mean, you can have drugs in your system that necessarily
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does not mean what you died from. you have to put everything together. >> dr. g., to be clear, when you gather a social history, these are through interviews with family, friends, colleagues? is that how that works? >> absolutely. absolutely that's what you would interview. you would also get previous medical records to see what he's stated in the past were his problems. i think what's really interesting as far as what's important in this case, i would also want to know the time line. we know the time line for days that he was on the 14th. he gave the concert and then stopped on the 15th. but being in an elevator and found dead at 10:00 in the morning or 9:00 in the morning is kind of unusual for any kind of overdose unless it's a stimulant that then created some natural disease process. basically, this is still a sudden and unexpected death that will take all possibilities. >> dr. gupta, this is very much the area of speculation here. i guess i'm just asking you in
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your expertise and dr. g. mentioned these instances, two performances postponed by prince in recent weeks. when you piece those things together, i'm not going to ask you to make a diagnosis and as you point out, it was two weeks ago from yesterday that he cancelled those shows. a week later, he performed. whatever it was, he seemed to have improvement to the point where he could perform a week after cancelling those shows. that night after performing, he's flying back home and the plane makes an emergency and a vague way of describing things but we know he was in the hospital for three hours and flew back home from the emergency stop. the next day, he's performing
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again. a smaller show from there in minnesota. the point, jim, he seemed to have this up and down sort of thing. i think that's going to be a very important part of the puzzle that dr. g. was referring to in terms of piecing what the autopsy will show, what the toxicology will show and that history is going to be important as well. >> i imagine, perhaps this question is to both of you and previous cases like this, the information always comes out piecemeal. there's an initial toxicology report and the people i imagine are going to jump to conclusions. i ask you to follow up. we've got to wait some time to know for sure. >> right. and you have to put all the pieces of the puzzle together. and what would be found at autopsy? it will be just as important with what will be found in toxicology and what is found under the microscope and that takes time. i've had many cases just change on a dime that you are just so
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sure your hypothesis is one thing based on even all the information you gather and then it changes on a dime once you look under the microscope and you do the autopsy. so you really have to wait until all the pieces are together. >> just a quick final thought to you. >> this is going to take some time. i think people, when something like this happens, and now you hear about why it takes some time. there will be some initial findings from the autopsy today and findings in the next few days in the toxicology and got to repeat those tests and got to make sure they were cleat in omd match it. put it together with all the things we're discussing. and it's just going to take some time. >> dr. sanjay gupta. thank you very much and clearing this up for us. a stunning revelation. audio obtained and presidential
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candidate front-runner donald trump saying that the candidate you have seen is just a character he's playing. the audio and what the rnc thinks of this right after the break chlgt. . . you do all this research on
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see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. if donald trump's bombastic off the cuff personality just an act? that's what a senior advisor is saying behind closed doors. the admission coming in a new audio from a source who was in that room during a meeting between the trump camp and republican party leaders. it happened yesterday in florida where rnc members are meeting to discuss the party's upcoming convention. have a listen. >> trump is an outsider. maybe you don't know but he's sitting in a room and talking group politics, it's a different persona. when he's outon the sta on the s
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projecting an image that's for that purpose. the part he's been playing is evolving into the part that you've been expecting but he wasn't ready for. >> joining me from the site of the rnc meeting is the chief strategist for the rnc, sean spicer. so sean, you listen to that tape. that's a pretty remarkable definitive statement saying in so many words that he's been playing a role just for public consumptions. have voters been lied to by the republican front-runner? >> reporter: i don't think they've been lied to. i think all of the candidates we have talked to in their staffs and they know what a great job that we're doing at the rnc to stay focused on the general election. our job is to keep our head down and let them say what they have to say on the campaign trail to seek the nomination. >> we're talking about his senior advisor who he just hired with the state of intention of making this race more serious.
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and after all, he is the republican front-runner by a number of delegates. and that advisor is saying that it's a persona. that's just a persona he's using in public. in reality, the real donald trump is something different. is that a problem for the republican party? >> reporter: no. look, again, i'm going to let all the campaigns speak for themselves. we're honored they all came down here and shared with us their vision to seek the nomination of our party. we were down here focused on the business of the party to make sure we're running for the general and i'll let each of the campaigns talk about their individual strategies. >> let me talk about what his advisors say specific to the rnc and in that same meeting, he said that the candidate is ready to work together with the rnc. however, as you know, as well as me, this is very different from what trump says on the campaign trail. have a listen to what trump said on a rally as the same day as the meeting. >> the system is rigged. the voting is rigged. the whole deal is crooked.
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100%. and that's why you have a case where i go in and win with the vote and these guys go and they buy delegates. they buy them dinners. they send them to hotels. the whole thing is a sham. >> so i got to ask you. what's the sham? the party system or the claim by trump he's willing to work with you a sham? >> well, no. like i said earlier, i think donald trump and governor kasich and senator cruz all understand the important role the rnc plays in the general election and this rnc in particular, reince priebus is the best trained rnc in political history. that being said, candidates are going to say what they have to say on the campaign trail. i know that he believes the system is complicated. it's made up of our grassroots of state and territories around the country but it is the most representative system we have because it is that local grassroots that drives the
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system in each state and allows a place like iowa to have a caucus and a place like virginia to have a primary. that's the beauty of it. it's not a washington-dictated top-down system. it's not like the democrats have full of super delegates, unelected party bosses that could undermine the will of the people. >> i just asked you a basic question. >> hold on. >> i do want to talk about the rules but do you believe that donald trump wants to work with the rnc? >> i know he does. absolutely. as do all the candidates. yes, i know 100%. they all understand the fabulous job we've done and continue to do. they know we can't win without a great nominee and they can't win without the great rnc we have. >> let's get to the other thing that came out of the meeting. the reason for this meeting was to decide whether to change convention rules, of course, you know the committee decided against that even though trump said these things about it being rigged. how would you explain that decision to a voter, many
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voters, who inspired by trump and angry at the process? >> so let's go back and the meeting didn't exist for the rules committee. it existed because we meet every spring and do the business of the party. we talk about budgets. our upgraded ground game. one of the things that occurs is the rnc rules committee meets. what had happened is during that meeting, traditionally, the rnc makes recommendations simply that. a recommendation to the delegates at the convention on what we believe over the last four years that the rules should look like for the subsequent four years. this year, chairman reince priebus asked the rules committee of the rnc because of the added scrutiny to do nothing so that all the decisions are left up to the delegates and there was no perception or idea that we were trying to tilt the game to one candidate or another. the committee followed his lead and we did nothing. we're going to make sure every decision is left up to the elected delegates chosen by grassroots from coast to coast. >> so that means if there are
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going to be rule changes to the convention, that's got to happen at the convention, you're saying? >> that's right. and keep in mind, that that's the job. every delegate that gets elected, their job is to update the rules of the party, the platform. choose the nominee and vice presidential nominee. that's happened every four years since 1856. we continue to follow the exact same process that we have since the founding of our party which ensures that the 2016 delegates that have been elected by the grassroots are allowed to institute a process for the 2016 convention. and the subsequent four years put changes into the platform that they want the same way in 2012 those 2012 delegates largely belonging to mitt romney were able to update the platform and the rules in accordance of what they thought needed to happen. same in '96 and '92. but you get the point. >> i do get the point, seanspicseanspic sean spicer from sunny, florida.
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thank you. >> bye-bye. >> we'll have all-day coverage of super tuesday with the results of the primaries in five states. that is this coming tuesday right here on cnn. and our other big story today. the tributes to prince still pouring in. his fans remembering his remarkable legacy. his friends remembering simply who he was. and the spontaneous powerful moments celebrating his music over the last 24 hours. like this. the cast of the broadway show the color purple led by jennifer hudson singing purple rain. your heart loves omega-3s.
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bringing back memories. prince died in chanhassen, minnesota. it houses a recording studio, a nightclub and a performance arena open to the public for concerts. according to an article written in "time" magazine in the 1990s, there is a basement full of gold and platinum albums and next to those, quote, almost like tab t tablets in a tabernacle. 100 unreleased songs. built in the '90s. state-of-the-art recording studio with a private office with three beds, a couch, chairs, and a desk.
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and one man who's been inside paley park with prince is editor peter willis joining me now live. thank you for coming on. it's great to have you on. you've interviewed prince inside paisley park in 2010. if you can, just for the sake of our viewers who have only seen this place from the outside, take us inside the front door of the facility. walk us through. what was it like? >> it was fantastic to be invited there. electric gate which opened up. we drove up the entrance. and i was showing inside like americans of 1950s star. she asked me to wait about a minute later, prince suddenly ht
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and said, no, no. this is a surprise. for my fans. don't take notes. and so he played me some of the tracks there. and the next moment he was saying to me, you know, come
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through here. i'll show you something. i followed him. he was a character where, you know, he was really in his element and the walls i remember were all actually gold and platinum disks. they were kind of everywhere. they were kind of guitars, you know -- [ inaudible ] lining the walls. they were also various props kind of dotted around the place. you know, took me into a room where -- waiting for me. by a grand piano. and it was a little -- there was a chair and he said, you know, kind of take a seat. and it was such an honor that he gave me a lone performance of a number of his tracks from the new album. [ inaudible ] playing for me. and then a special performance
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and kind of felt really kind of almost like -- i applauded at the end of each song. it was a brilliant erxperience. [ inaudible ] which was where he kept books. you know? [ inaudible ] actually he came to light talking about -- you know, genius. ultimately talking about his -- [ inaudible ] and -- for all his books and magazines and kind of -- you know, kind of literature associated with his -- and i think it was also in that room he showed me a video which was essentially about how -- it was about how corporate america was
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damaging children in america. it was kind a strange video i have to say. prince was standing there and kind of nodding as he did and showed me the kind of messages on it. >> what a remarkable view inside the life, the home of prince. thank you, peter willis. apologies to view earlsers for audio problems. president obama's news conference with the uk prime minister cameron not all about the eu and fighting the war on terror. he also talked about how he feels now that prince is gone. >> i love prince because he put out great music and he was a great performer. i didn't know him well. he came to perform at the white house last year, and was extraordinary. and creative and original.
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and full of energy. and so, it's a remarkable loss and i'm staying at winfield house, the u.s. ambassador's house. it so happens our ambassador has a turntable and so this morning we played "purple rain" and "delirio "delirious" just to get warmed up before we got ready for important bilateral meetings like this. >> they said they're fans of prince, as well. when stevie wonder says you inspire him, you have to be special specia special. they talked about prns here last night on cnn. >> he was a great musician. he loved music. he loved playing his instrument and, you know, the times that we did jam together were amazing. with all the various people he would bring together and most of all he brought all the various
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cultures together. he could play classical music if he wanted to. he could play jazz or country if he wanted to. he played rock. you know? he played blues. he played pop and, you know, everything. he was just a great musician. and very cognizant of what his responsibility was as a musician and a human being. >> today i was watching a recording of a concert you did in paris in 2010. you were performing "superstition" and prince accompanying you on the guitar and i think what is lost about prince, not just great, you know, songwriter. he was a stellar guitar player and not just guitar, he played nearly all the instruments on the first five albums. that's incredible. >> uh-huh. yeah. it's amazing. you know, it's fun to do that because basically you're going inside you're giving people every single part of what you feel. it's what your soul is saying.
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this is how i want this to be played and for the natalie i can play it and express myself. like an artist painting a picture. he was a great artist of picture of sound picture. and music. and so, this is an amazing day as we see so many things happening, the heart break is to see this man who's so talented be taken away from us. be i know that, you know, the almighty god has far greater things for him to do eternally. so, i just hope -- >> that was stevie wonder there speaking to anderson cooper about prince. that's it for me today. wolf is back on monday and up next for our domestic view earls, brooke baldwin is talking to prince's engineer, the one that started prince's remarkable
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♪ dearly beloved we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life ♪ ♪ and if the elevator tries to bring us down ♪ ♪ let's go crazy ♪ one time ♪ you are watching cnn on this friday afternoon. thank you so much for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin this hour as we did just around this time yesterday. prince, a musical knight, is gone. want you to first take a look at the front pages, these are newspapers from all around the world. and classic prince fan,