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to super acela spring, may, april tuesday. five states, you are now on the clock. voters right now are at the polls in five states along the eastern seaboard, connecticut, delaware, maryland, rhode island, and pennsylvania with time running out in both nominating contests. >> for the republicans, 172 delegates up for grabs. 172 key delegates all on the march to 1,237. as it stands now, donald trump is at 846 delegates. 391 away from the magic number he needs. ted cruz and john kasich, they essentially can't get there at all before the convention. >> and so for the democrats, 384 delegates are at stake today. hillary clinton now has a 253 lead over bernie sanders in pledged delegates. if you add in the superdelegates, that lead grows to a big 713. >> now, there is one twist today for the republicans. the biggest prize, pennsylvania, it will award 17 pledge
delegates to the winner of the state, but there will be 54 unpledged delegates. they will be elected. they're essentially free agents, and they can change their minds up until the last possible minute. >> so voter turnout is expected to be high. add to that, high interest and the insanely high stakes. too much? maybe not. both hillary clinton and donald trump, they are hoping for sweeps. let's begin with cnn national correspondent jason carroll who is at a polling station in pittsburgh. so, jason, what's happening there? >> reporter: well, just outside of pittsburgh, just a few miles out of it in mount lebanon, an affluent area, you can see right here, this is our polling station. a few folks trickling in. hi there, how is it going? >> fine. how are you? >> well, thank you. as you know 71 delegates up for grabs here in the state of pennsylvania. you heard john talking about this. 54 of those are unbound, which
basically means they can vote for whomever they want. donald trump has done everything on his part, really upping his ground game. we all know what he thinks of the delegate system. he's called it crooked, kor runt. in terms of the ground cagame i pennsylvania, he's upped his game in terms of having more volunteers on the ground, making sure the delegates here are loyal to him. let's talk quickly about john kasich. the hometown hero, if you will. he was born actually just about 15 minutes from where i'm standing in mckees rocks, but he's not getting that hometown bump that one might expect. he's trailing way behind trump here in the polls. spoke to one voter out here who he said i'm going to come out here and support kasich even though i don't think he can go all the way. donald trump looking for a big win, not just here in the state. looking for a sweep of all of the states up for grabs today hoping that will give him the momentum he needs heading into indiana. john, kate? >> all right. jason carroll for us outside pittsburgh. but enough with pennsylvania.
let's go to maryland now. cnn's brian todd at a polling station in baltimore. good morning, brian. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: good morning, john and kate. yeah, enough with pennsylvania. let's talk about maryland. hillary clinton on the democratic side expected to do well here. she has been ahead in the polls very handily throughout the process here. also doing well in this particular precinct. we're at mt. washington lower school in north baltimore. we've sampled almost 50 voters as they've come out. hillary clinton very, very strong support. leading bernie sanders in the number of voters that we sampled here. hillary clinton does have a stronghold here and in all five states that are voting today throughout the northeast. expected to do well. here in maryland i just talked to a person running for city council in baltimore. she told me you have to win four places here in maryland, baltimore city, baltimore county, montgomery county and prince george's county, those two counties near washington, d.c., and hillary clinton is doing very well in those areas and expected to do well there.
these are her strongholds. she is looking to seal the deal with the primaries in the northeast. she is expected to do very well here in maryland, and there's been a very good turnout all morning long here on primary day as well as in early voting which took place between april 14th and april 21st. john and kate? >> brian todd, thank you so much. watching folks head to the polls all day today. >> yeah. so besides the voting, there's also some machinations behind the scenes as well. two of the remaining republican candidates making moves to stop donald trump from reaching the magic delegate number he needs to take the nomination. john kasich and ted cruz, they have teamed up sort of trying to divide up some of the future states as these primaries move on. >> what does john mean with the sort of? it appear that is this alliance is already showing signs of straining before it even seemed to have a chance to take shape. let's discuss this and what today means with ron nehring with the ted cruz campaign and craig dunne, a republican party chairman in indiana, the great
state of indiana. great to see you craig and ron. thank you so much for joining us. so, ron, first to you. john kasich yesterday, he was asked about this alliance and specifically asked what is your message to indiana voters? what should they do, and he says i never said they shouldn't vote for me. they ought to vote for me. what does that mean for your deal? >> it's nothing unusual at all. the arrangement that we worked out with the kasich campaign is a resource allocation strategy, and that is that we're going to concentrate our time, energy, and effort in indiana. he's going to concentrate his effort in oregon and new mexico, and that's it. nobody said we would ask anybody to vote for any other candidate and the like. so this is perfectly consistent with what's been worked out and what we already announced. >> remain calm, all going acc d according to plan. ron, last week on this show you called john kasich insufferable. is he still insufferable? >> you know, john kasich is going to concentrate on the states he's going to concentrate on. the next state up is indiana.
we have a clear -- >> my question -- >> hold on, i'm answering your question. john kasich will not be campaigning in the state of indiana, and that's good. that increases the likelihood that senator cruz will emerge from indiana as the victor and that donald trump will be further behind where he needs to be in order to be the republican nominee. so john kasich, i stand by my statements before. i don't think john kasich will ultimately be the nominee but i won't get into unnecessary disparagement at this point given the fact we have to make sure donald trump is not the republican nominee because if he is, hillary clinton is going to be in the white house and that's one thing that all republicans can agree we don't want to see. >> so john kasich has become maybe sufferable. >> is that a word? >> i made it a word. >> i guess it depends what state you're in. >> there you go, ron. craig, what does this alliance mean for you? what does this mean? you are a supporter of john kasich. you are in the great state of
indiana. what does this alliance mean for you? >> well, i have never been part of the stop donald trump movement. i have been from the very beginning part of the pro-john kasich movement. he's from a neighboring state, ohio. has done an absolutely wonderful job in ohio of eradicating their massive debt that they had, instituting a budget surplus, and he's done it in a compassionate yet conservative manner, so i don't think it's about stopping donald trump. now, right now, and it always has been the strategy to get to 1,237. that's what this is about. it doesn't matter who won in iowa or new hampshire. it's all about getting to 1,237, and as ben said, you have a limited amount of resources, money, man power, and time, and john kasich has just decided to use his resources in other states at this point in time. >> are you still voting for john kasich in indiana next week? >> i think i will, yes.
>> are you going to tell your friends to vote for john kasich? >> well, you know, if you knew indiana people well, you would know they don't take kindly to anybody telling them how to vote. i'm always real judicious with making endorsements. all i can really say is that this is what i'm going to be doing, but you don't tell hoosiers how to do anything, how to vote or what actions they should take. we'll leave it up to them to make that decision. >> so, craig, as a hoosier though, do you think it's a smart deal, a dumb deal, a too late deal? what do you think of the deal that they struck? >> well, i don't want to second guess the deal. i will say that like a lot of other people in indiana, we've always had this dream of having candidates prowl around our state the way they do in new hampshire and proclaim to the world we have the best tenderloins in the world, and so from that standpoint it's a little disappointing that we're not going to have all three of the candidates going door to
door and business to business here campaigning. but time will tell. we're in unchartered waters right now. i think this is totally unprecedented, and when you're in unchartered water, you don't know, it's like christopher columbus, you're going to fall off the edge of the world or discover new world and only time will dictate that. >> ron, before we fall off the edge of the world, if that's what's going to happen, there are elections in five states today, republican primaries being held in five states today. how many delegates does the cruz campaign expect to win today? >> oh, come on. you know we're not going to get into that type of prediction business. the voters will have their same soon enough and we'll knew in a few hours how many delegates are won by each of the candidates. but remember we're at the top of the sixth inning still. a long ball game. going to wind up in california at the end of the day. itches just reading a couple articles about the trump campaign continuing to flail around in california announcing headquarters openings, canceling headquarters openings, canceling events. three events in a row that have been canceled in california.
i don't know. it looks like the same type of drama that we see in management struggles at the trump headquarters nationally continue to be reflected in some of the later states going on. i think it's going to be more interesting than some people in the media might be projecting right now. >> so no predictions on today at all? >> no. come on. we'll find out soon enough and then we move on to indiana. we'll move on to nebraska. we'll move on to west virginia, oregon, and washington and then wind up in california with the five states that vote on june 7th. >> i do feel like i remember you guys making predictions in places like wisconsin though, ron. i'm just saying. ron, craig, thank you so much. >> super tuesday coverage will continue all day long and night right here on cnn. >> so no matter the results, it is still mathematically and, again, we're not math geniuses, but we do know this, it is mathematically impossible to lock up the nomination for republicans after tonight's results. so heading into a contested
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that's a tribute to prince. >> of course. obviously, all week long. >> where is your purple? >> five states voting today, sean. how much clarity will we get out of today? >> well, once i know the outcome, ooifei'll tell you. 172 delegates at stake. as donald trump pursues 137 bound delegates it could continue to move him forward or we'll have an idea whether we're headed more towards an open convention. >> when do you say you're guaranteed? >> june 7th you have 303 delegates, 272 in california alone. >> you don't say guaranteed until california? >> you can't. >> what about indiana. >> once you hit that, you will know whether or not somebody has the bound delegates requisite to be the presumptive nominee or not. >> you spend your time listening to voters, right, in trying to figure out what voters want. >> yeah. >> we've been voting for three months now in these primaries so far. what have the republican primary voters been saying? >> well, i think there's a need
for change. i think they're tired of washington, d.c. i think they're frustrated. i think most americans right now look at a government whether it's the veterans administration not providing services to those who have served, the irs that can't tell you how much you owe or trying to make your life more complicated. simple functions of government not working right and not feeling as though anybody is their advocate. >> isn't the president's approval rating higher than it has been -- >> that's not saying much. being in the high 40s and low 50s isn't something to write home about. >> hasn't been that way for a long time though. >> but that's nothing -- look, i think on both sides you're seeing this with bernie sanders and you're seeing it on our side as well, i think the american people are tired of what they're seeing out of washington. after eight years they're ready for a change. they're ready for someone to talk to them and tell them about the solutions this country needs. >> do you know where a lot of those come up? debates. ted cruz is calling for two more debads in the great state of indiana. would the rnc support that? >> if the three candidates that
are remaining in the race want something, our position has always been and will continue to be if they want to debate and all three of them want to do it, we're in. >> are more debates better? >> i think that as long as there's discussion, the town halls have been great. i think they really pull a lot out of folks. cnn has done a really good job of sitting down with people, letting average americans talk to these candidates back and forth. i think as long as there's a dialogue going on, that's a positive thing. whether it's in the format of a debate or a town hall or a one-on-one interview, that's not for me to say, but i think we've heard a lot of candidates, what they have to say, what their g positions are. to your point about today, think about where we've been historically. the whiy e-- idea that these states, massachusetts and rhode island, are part of this process, something they haven't been in decades is really important. you will see all 50 states and six territories and the district of columbia part of the democratic process. that's a healthy upside.
so goes rhode island, so goes >> that's not a good thing. by the way, the democratic governor there for all the talk closed 67% of the polling places in rhode island. so far all the talk about voting rights and voter suppression coming out of hillary clinton and the dnc, not once have they spoken out against gina romundo's decision to can sell 67% -- they like to talk on every republican governor when they talk about early voting but you have a huge massive disenfranchisement of voters by a democratic governor and hillary clinton has been silence. debbie wasserman schultz, silence. >> we would like to talk to the governor. we will pursue that. ted cruz apparently now far along the way in the vice presidential process. he has a short list of possible contenders. if there is a contested convention, if there is no nominee headed into cleveland, doesn't the republican party then and the convention itself need to take a role in selecting
the vice president? >> it's a great question because as we head into cleveland, this is going to be unchartered territory and there's two strategies. one is a candidate could say if you select me, this is who i'd like the delegates to choose as my running mate. or you could -- a candidate could leave that option vacant and say, hey, i'm going to use it as a bargaining chip going in or let the delegates ultimately decide but this will be an exciting cleveland convention. >> how do you schedule it? >> seriously. >> it's a work in progress. we have a great team in cleveland. we're talking about the chairman. >> is there any way a vp nominee vote would happen before -- >> it's possible but that's unlikely. you'd want the presidential nomination to occur first. but, again, all of these decisions get made by the delegates when they go to cleveland. one of the things they do is set the schedule for how things are going to flow, and i think while it may make common sense, it's going to be up to them to make a recommendation to the delegates how those things proceed. >> do you want to comment on the
cruz/kasich deal? >> no. >> you have had a day to think about it. >> i have. every campaign will decide what's best for their candidate. we continue to shed transparency, to inform people how it works. we've set up convention facts.gop that lays it out. launched five new videos that talk about the allocation and selection of the delegates in the foo i have states that have primaries tonight. we're out there educating people, making sure they understand the process. i'll let the campaigns run the strategy that they see best for their campaign. >> we need a lot of educating because the delegate rules not so easy. not so easy, sean spicer. >> it's a states' rights party. that's how we roll. >> gold, pure gold. thank you so much. so today's results will change tomorrow's race. you're looking live at polling stations up and down the eastern seaboard. we're going to play one of our favorite games coming up. it's called, it's already tomorrow morning.
what's happening now. our panel gives their predictions coming up next. and the world's most fascinating marriage of convenience, but are ted cruz and john kasich already engaged in a conscious uncoupling? >> marriage. >> ted cruz and john kasich are teaming up. the dream team. except, except it's one of those dreams where no matter how fast you run, a trump presidency keeps getting closer and closer.
appears to be pretty frge jagil right now. this is the state of the presidential race as voters in five states head to the polls today. >> let's discuss our foam peanuts. let's talk about this with david gregory, "new york times" national political reporter alex burns, and the executive editor of cnn politics, mark preston, everyone's favorite boss. great to see you, mark preston. >> great to see you. >> we're going to play a game. this is one of our favorite games on voting games, it's called it's already tomorrow morning. it is tomorrow morning alex burns. what is the surprise headline from "the new york times"? >> i think if there's any surprise i think it's possibly just the scale of trump's victory. i think we're more likely to see a new york-like scenario emerge. if he scores really big in some of the states that are not winner-take-all but winner-take-most like connecticut and maryland, he could really extend his delegate lead very substantial if cruz and kasich continue to split the
anti-trump vote down the middle. >> david gregory, the other side. it's already tomorrow morning. bernie sanders wakes up feeling -- >> like he's got almost no path left. i mean, i think the more we move forward, the bigger her wins, even if she doesn't win everything today and tonight, the reality is that he just doesn't have the ground to make up. so he doesn't have time on the calendar even if he scores some later victories. the lead is too big so it becomes a different kind of management game which is how to bring him into the fold of the democratic party and try to consolidate that vote. not that he'd be getting out anytime soon but i think it would be more difficult for him to make a momentum argument after tonight. >> how does his messaging and the campaign's messaging then change after tonight? that will be interesting and key. so this politico article, mark preston, that says donald trump is not so happy with the management and the power that's been given to paul manafort as he's come in, with all of this
going back and forth, who is in charge, who should be in charge, and what is donald trump happy with, paul manafort for ker cor lewandowski, who is running donald trump's campaign? >> donald trump is running his campaign. donald trump has run his campaign. a couple things about the internal struggle we've been talking about, this happens in every campaign, okay? it's just been mag ifnified bece it's donald trump and the fact is that he's an undisciplined candidate that only does what he wants to do. now, let's assume the story is right. we probably have seen it play out publicly because donald trump has been fairly discipl e disciplindisciplin disciplined given donald trump, certainly his history. however, we see him yesterday giving speeches where he lost any of that discipline that he had built up over the last couple weeks. i do think it's an internal struggle right now for donald trump more so than an internal struggle in the campaign. >> both of you guys are picking
up signs there may be a newfound organization on the ground. you're saying they may be wrangling some of the delegates in pennsylvania. >> there's been a lot of talk there's 54 unpledged delegates meaning they could go for anybody. however, what i have been told is in the last six, seven days that they've actually put in a ground game. trump has actually engaged in it himself, talked to these folks himself. they have cards that they're handing to voters. what happens in pennsylvania is these delegates that are being elected don't have who they're supporting next to them. the ones that trump is handing out these cards do have who they would support. so i think he'll do better in pennsylvania -- >> can i say, i think what's really important you look at trurn, you want to look at margins. because there's two truths about donald trump. he is the front-runner, the only one. the only one who is really within striking distance of winning this nomination. >> and there can be only one. >> right. the second thing is it's also true that he's a very weak
front-runner. he is still a plurality front-runner which is why it's possible to get to an open convention, and if you are looking at the map, you have to say, look, the only strategy here if you're donald trump is to win indiana and then win in california. everything should flow through that. it's not clear to me that everything is flowing through that. i think they're going to spend a lot of money and time in indiana and do the same out west in california, but that's where the game is here. he's not going to win -- that's where trump can win it. >> if trump sweeps what does it mean for the cruz/kasich alliance. >> i think it comes down to indiana for both of them. the real meaning of that partnership is that, you know, kasich backs off of this state so that cruz has a decent or at least a reasonable or existent shot of winning there to even just keep the race going. and cruz in exchange gives up these two states that, you know, aren't really that relevant on the calendar --
>> it's the utilities of monopoly. >> yes. >> second day of monopoly references and you're killing it. >> you're giving kasich a door prize in exchange for boosting both their odds in a state you have to beat trump in in order to continue the race. if trump does win there, david mentioned indiana and california as the key targets for him. those are the key targets for cruz too. if he wins states like montana and south dakota, it doesn't add up to a heck of a lot unless he wins both of the bigger prizes. >> you mentioned the margins, about how much donald trump wins tonight if he does, in fact, win. that's what the polls have been saying up until now. he could get over 50% in a bunch of these states. i think after new york a lot of people were surprised how well donald trump did in new york even though he was leading in all the polls here, and that seems to have shifted the dynamics of the race, alex. would it be enough to have the win you were predicting he could have tonight, to shift the dynamics heading into indiana? >> i think it probably could. when we saw cruz do well in wisconsin, almost crack 50%, there was a real optimism across
the republican party that maybe something in the fundamentals of donald trump's campaign is weakening. and we saw in new york at least that wasn't the case. we're probably going to get more data points that suggest he's doing quite well still tonight. >> may be why the cruz campaign not wanting to make any projections or expectations for tonight. >> we had ron nehring on and he refused to tell us how many delegates he would win. >> that tells you something. >> thanks so much, guys. millionaire versus billionaire. hillary clinton tries out a new line of attack on donald trump blasting his private jets and mansions. ask that a smart move or is there a chance it could backfire? >> and is bernie sanders dropping out of the race if hillary clinton sweeps tonight? i don't think so. hear what he just told our cnn reporters moments ago. this is cnn's special live coverage of this fabulous and super tuesday. and during this event, you can get a great deal on this jetta. it drives great... volkswagen believes safety is very important so all eleven models come standard with an intelligent crash response system...
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all right. we do have breaking news. it concerns johnny manziel. the former cleveland browns quarterback has been indicted on assault charges. that is according to court records in dallas. manziel allegedly hit his former girlfriend. that happened earlier this year allegedly. he has pleaded not guilty. if convicted, he could face up to a year in jail. now back to politics on this super tuesday. moments ago our jim acosta caught up with senator bernie sanders who is in philadelphia. listen to this. >> reporter: just curious what you're thinking about today. it's expected to be a big day for hillary clinton. are you feeling any pressure to get out of this race? >> have a nice day. you know, i have answered that question 50 times. democracy means that every person in this country has the right to cast a vote for president of the united states. we got a message that is
resonating. we have won 16 states so far. we have gone from 3% in the polls to in some polls actually being ahead of secretary clinton. we're in this race to win, and we've got a good shot to do it. >> so bernie sanders saying he's not going anywhere, folks. that's for sure. let's discuss this and what's going to happen today and beyond with joel benenson. >> we've been listening to bernie sanders. you heard him. on "new day" he says he still has a path to the nomination. he says it's a narrow path but he does say he has a path. is that true? >> well, we'll see by the end of tonight. i have been saying this all along, this is a critical day. we have five states. we've been campaigning very hard. secretary clinton is going to end up in pennsylvania tonight. we think we're going to do very well tonight, and we think we're going to add to our lead of more than 2.7 million votes, add to our lead of 240 pledge
delegates, and just as important at this point is almost 400 delegates come off the field today. if bernie sanders doesn't win every state and win big, he's running out of real estate. >> there's no path if he doesn't win? >> it's really hard to see it. you have to have enough delegates left to win and win big. he'd have to win the remaining pledged delegates at a rate that he has won i think over 60% of in only two states. there's just no pattern of where he's been able to do that. >> when you say there's really no path, you point to states and keep pointing to this, is that the same as saying it's time for him to get out as you heard from jim acosta? is there pressure? why don't you guys go there? >> it's his decision. he's run a campaign for a year like we have. we know what it's like to be in long, hard campaigns. it's his decision. what's notable is he said last night he'll do everything he can to make sure a republican doesn't get into the white house. that's the most important thing. because after these primaries,
we have to come together. it's what hillary clinton did in 2008. she played a very big role in moving senator barack obama's nomination by acclamation on the floor of the convention. she gave the nominating speech. we have to unite as democrats because the stakes in this are so high based on what's going on on the republican side. there will be time for him to make his decision and go forward in a way that i think will be true to what he said last night. >> he said he wants to make sure a republican doesn't win the white house but he was asked essentially about how much he would be willing to do to help secretary clinton. let's listen to how he answered that question. >> well, and we'll see what happens. we are going to have -- if we don't win this thing, we're going to have a lot of delegates in philadelphia fighting the fight and i'm not convinced and you don't know what the delegates there will do. if you do, please tell me, but you don't. so we are going to go to the american people and say, this is the agenda for the working people. >> a couple things going on there, but one of which is something you're now hearing from people close to bernie
sanders now is that he might start trying to fight over the platform or some of the messaging at the convention. how open are you to including bernie sanders, his voice and his supporters, on things like writing the party platform? >> i think what happens at the convention is worked out at the convention by delegates. if we have a majority of delegates, we're going to listen to any points of view, but at the end of the convention we have to come out of there united to defeat republicans and we have to come out united on the issues that matter the most to american people, about the issue that is will make a difference in their lives. that will start on issues we have far more agreement than disagreement. how we give every kid an education so they can get ahead. how we make sure we can create the good jobs of the future including clean energy jobs that will make us the clean energy super power and help us deal with climate change. >> when you talk about you will be uniting, you need to start
uniting, bernie sanders was asked very clearly this morning if hillary clinton is the nominee, will he support her as the nominee without conditions? and his answer a couple times was we will see. he refused to say yes. if bernie sanders is the nomin e nominee, will hillary clinton support him without conditions? >> i think if senator sanders was sitting on the precipice of the nomination as hillary clinton is now, i'd entertain that question. that's just not right now in the cords, and i think everybody sees where we are today. i think on whether or not he will, as i have said, that's his decision. we're not going to force his hand or push him to make a decision before he's ready. >> but supporting a nominee without conditions? you don't think that he -- you don't think he should have an opinion on that now? >> that he should have an opinion? i'll let him speak for himself. i take him at his word that he will do everything he can to stop the republicans from winning the white house in the fall. he knows we are much more behind
on issues, the clinton campaigned and the sanders campaign, the ones i ticked off, than we are with republicans. we have republicans that oppose equal pay, that don't want to raise the minimum wage. we have a big fight ahead of us in the fall and anybody who cares about those progressive causes will be on the side of the nominee and i believe that's going to be hillary clinton. >> do you need bernie sanders on your side? do you need his strong support -- >> we want everyone's support. i think we can win this election by running a campaign on the issues, the kind of issues we've talked about and debated with bernie sanders where we have a lot more agreement than disagreement. that's why i think he will be with us in the fall. >> do you need him? >> i think campaigns are choices between the two candidates on the ballot. they always are. whoever the nominee is at the end of this process. i believe it's going to be hillary clinton. it's going to be a choice between us and one of many out of touch, out of date republicans who are going to be antithetical to what working americans want and that's what that campaign will come down to. who is going to improve their economic lives. >> joel benenson, great to have
you here with us. >> good luck today. >> thank you. >> thanks, joel. coming up for us on cnn, we'll hear from bernie sanders' wife, jane sanders. she will be speaking with wolf blitzer at 1:00 eastern time. you will want to stick around for this. and looking past today's big votes and into the future, friends. yes, there is still a long path to the convention if you can even believe it. so does donald trump have the legs to maintain momentum and is his management team the right fit? >> legs, not hands. when a rear hatch remembers your height. when systems can help sense your surroundings. and when cameras change your perspective. that's the more human side of engineering. experience what a lincoln can do for you
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back to today's crucial northeastern primaries. voters in five states, they're hitting the polls as we speak. hundreds of delegates are up for grabs. let's talk about what we can expect from those five contests in these five states with cnn political commentator ana navarro, bernie sanders supporter, bill press, and political and policy contributor for "vanity fair," t.a. frank. great to see all of you. >> hi, kate. >> silence. i love it. stunned them to silence again. >> you stumped them. that's not even the hard question. >> just wait until it comes at
you, ana. you have today, but looking beyond today, if they are at tomorrow, is there such a thing as momentum at this point in the race do you think? >> you know, we keep talking about momentum and how winning begets winning. there is still some truth to that, but >> have we seen anything in the 2016 race and on both sides of the aisle, momentum can change and things can change on a dime. somebody can have momentum this week and lose it next week. some people make a lot out of momentum. some make very little out of it. we've seen ted cruz, for example, win a lot of states and yet, it hasn't really translated into a big moe. we have to wait and see what happens tomorrow and what it translates to but right now, take it one day at a time and one primary at a time. >> bill, you are a bernie sanders supporter.
"the washington post" writer said he detects a change in language from bernie sanders in the sanders campaign. now there is talk we are going to take this fight all the way to california. we're going to fight until every last vote is cast. but what they're not saying is they're going to take this to the convention and there is a big difference between the two. have you noticed such a l linguistic difference? >> i'm delighted it goes to the state of california because normally our primaries are meaningless and won't be this year but i heard bernie said he wants to go to the convention and he's got a model for that. in 2008, after barack obama got enough delegates to win the nomination, on june 20th, hillary didn't concede defeat until four days later and she
didn't drop out, if you remember, until the convention. >> but bill, but bill, they stood up on stage together and held an event. do you expect bernie sanders will stand up on the stage with hillary clinton and have an event? >> absolutely. i had this conversation very early on with bernie sanders and he has said it i don't know how many different ways. he wants to do everything he can to make sure the next president of the united states is a democrat. he hopes it's himself. if it's not, you know he'll be there 100% for hillary clinton, and encourage his supporters to do the same thing. >> see, on the republican side, if you get past the big votes, let's just assume donald trump sweeps it today and you look ahead and then the cruz/kasich deal kind of really comes into focus when you head in to indiana. what are you hearing from voters? this all kind of comes down to even though they say they're not telling folks how to vote in places like indiana, it's an argument of strategic voting.
something i know ana navarro hates. what are you hearing from voters? >> well, i think voters are probably catching up to us journalists in that we are starting to feel like this is a bad car ride and we're looking for the handles, the door handles to get out of it. and voters are probably starting to feel that for the same way. i think maybe strategic voting. >> you better hope the car isn't going too fast. >> that's right. i'll take my chances. >> go ahead, finish your thought. >> well, i think that, yes, the voters are catching up to us and that they are probably not that interested in strategic voting or in the lastest imaginations of kasic of kasich/cruz, this marriage breaking apart after 24 hours or so. even britney spears managed to stay longer than that and i think voters will definitely
exceed us in fatigue very soon or catch up with us. >> my favorite candidate was jimmy mcmullen with the rent too damn high party. i think we're all sort of feeling this primary season is too damn long. i mean, it started in 2014. it really has dragged on and on. i wish -- >> you can't have it both ways. you can't say it's going on too long and how excited you are that california is now relevant. >> what she said. >> i always try to have it both ways. >> all right. guys, let me just tell you this. let's stop whining and moping about how long this primary is going on. it is making for great tv. it is making for great ratings. i do agree that marriage between kasich and cruz, it looks like it needs marriage counselling asap. i think less talking would be better. more hugging. more eating by john kasich. less explaining of the process.
but look, it's not just about voters. voters are a big part of why this happened and they need to get the signal of what is happening. but it's also about the sup super pac and about the donors. they have limited resources left, kasich and cruz and they've got to allocate the resources in a smart way and divvy up the map. i wish this had happened a long, long time ago. but it gives the pacs a road map and a degree of something to hang on to. a hope that there's some sort of path or hope. and, you know, a map to follow. >> all right. ten seconds or less. if they're tired, which candidate that does help most? >> it probably helps john kasich most. i'm just throwing one out there. >> exactly. >> ana navarro? >> i think it helps donald trump
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i'm ashleigh banfield. welcome to "legal view." right now, millions of people are voting in primaries in five different states. it is yet another super tuesday. not so super that donald trump or hillary clinton could wrap up their party's nominations, but they could sweep all five states that are voting as we speak and that could make life super complicated for their rivals. democratic primaries in