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around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are watching our live special coverage. if you have been listening to hillary clinton and donald trump, it sounds like the primaries are done and the general election fight is now under way. all up and down the east coast, the voters weighed in for donald trump. the republican front-runner racking up a clean sweep tonight winning in pennsylvania, maryland, delaware, connecticut and rhode island. for the democrats hillary clinton had herself a night. she won four states, pennsylvania, maryland, connecticut and delaware. bernie sanders scored his lone win in rhode island. did bernie sanders admit defeat. in a statement he put out a little while ago, the senator is not talking about winning the democratic presidential nomination and beating hillary clinton, sanders said, and i'm quoting him now, this campaign is going to the democratic national convention in philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party
platform. as sanders said that, hillary clinton's campaign said, it is a shift. she said it is a shift that after clinton took four or five states contested today, her campaign will prepare for a general election. clinton spent her speech gearing up her crowd for a megafight versus donald trump. and extending an olive branch at the same time to bernie sanders. >> i applaud senator sanders and his millions of supporters for challenging us to get unaccountable money out of our politics and giving greater emphasis to closing the gap of inequality and i know together we will get that done. >> because whether you support senator sanders or you support me, there is much more that you nights us than divides us.
>> on the republican side, donald trump left no doubt. he this is the primary contest is over and he is now the presumptive nominee. >> i consider myself the presumptive nominee. i think the party is seeing me that way. i am getting calls that, as i said, you wouldn't believe. i am getting calls from people i don't know how they can do it. they have said such horrible things about me and now they want to join the team. >> jake tapper is with us here. a very big night for donald trump. >> a huge night tore donald trump. one of the things people were paying attention to, if he is going to be the general election candidate we expect he is going to be, what is his message going to be? there were many mess rajs in that speech. he took some clear shots of hillary clinton. let's go to sarah murray at the trump headquarters in new york.
sarah, in the presidential contest f it comes down to trump versus clinton, it sure looks like it is going to be vicious. trump already laying some big punches. >> i think you are absolutely right, jake. i think tonight we saw the early outlines of the general election battle. there were some questions about whether donald trump would suddenly adopt a new persona or change his tone as he prepares for a general election fight. i think we saw tonight that's just not the case. he came up with some of his hardest hits. he said the only reason she is winning so far is because she is a woman. >> the only card she has is the woman's card. she has nothing else going. frankly, if hillary clinton were a man, i don't think she would get 5% of the vote. the only thing she has going is the woman's card. the beautiful thing is, women don't like her, okay? >> now, i'm sure that comment
will cause some raised eyebrows, maybe not in the republican party but maybe with the general electorate. i think we will see more of that tomorrow. like you said, it sets both sides up for a very vicious general election battle if we do see a donald trump versus hillary clinton race. jake? >> sarah murray, thank you so much. i want to roll this tape again. van jones was talking about the facial expressions being made by mary pat christie, the first lady of the state of new jersey as donald trump made this slam on clinton. that's her on the right side of the screen. let's just listen. >> the beautiful thing is, women don't like her, okay? look how well i did with women. >> she has nothing else going. frankly, if hillary clinton were a man, i don't think she would get 5% of the vote. the only thing she has got going is the woman's card. the beautiful thing is women don't like her. okay? look how well i did with women
tonight. okay? so ladies and gentlemen, thank you. >> i'm not really sure what to read into the facial express of mary pat christie but. >> i think we call that side eye. i think it broke the internet tonight. >> van jones seems to think it was indicative of somebody who, let's be very clear. mary pat christie is a republican. she wants donald trump to be the president. she does not want hillary clinton to be the president but it looked based on that facial expression like she didn't maybe think that was the best attack for trump to be launching. >> i think that's probably a very fair thing to say. it will be interesting to see what she says about this, because there is no question this is completely caught fire in social media and elsewhere. i think just to go back to the reason this is a thing, the fact na donald trump said the only reason why hillary clinton got where she got is because she is a woman playing the woman card.
two things, he knows 40 his supporters are. for the most part right now at this point in the tam pain, they are people who mostly working class men. i mean, today, he obviously did well among everybody. historically, it has been them. there is no love loss for hillary clinton. he is going to continue that. in places where he says if he is the nominee and she is the nominee, he says he could be competitive. he thinks these kind of comments can help turn those states to his advantage and to the republicans. >> there is something about political observers out there noting that you listen to trump's speech and you hear him talk about legitimate grievances that americans have in terms of pages stagnating and trade policies that have sold them out
and observers think, oh, this is a winning message. he takes a shot at hillary clinton on the gender issue and they say, well, maybe not. let's see where it goes. >> all right, guys. stand by. i i want to go over to john king over at the magic wall. donald trump says i consider myself the presumptive nominee. maybe a little bit premature. certainly, he has a significant, almost 400-point advantage right now over those pledged delegates. >> he has a big lead tonight, wolf. a lot of momentum if you go county by county or town by town through these five states. the scope is astounding. one delegate for ted cruz, five for john kasich, 113 for donald trump. stretching his lead out here. the big question. was it enough, that huge route tonight. is it enough to get him to 12:37. before the cleveland convention. that's the magic number. let's do some of the math for you. cnn reporting, there, this delegate count having thigh of 960, does not include 54
unpledged delegates, cnn reporting over the last few days, 54 of them. at least half, 27 of those delegates have told cnn they will vote for donald trump because they are trump supporters or because they said they would vote the way their district went and donald trump went overwhelming through this district. when you add this number to this number it leaves donald trump needing 251 to get to 1237. it is an interesting number. it makes this map a little easy. after tonight, there are 502 republican delegates at steak. donald trump needs 50%. when you add in those 27 after tonight. can he get there? let me do one other thing. i will take the calendar out of order. he needs 50% right now. new jersey votes on the last day on june 7th. donald trump, he is heavily favored in new jersey. winner take all. if you add those in, donald trump, i'm skipping the order of the calendar. heavily favored in west virginia
winner take all. ted cruz says, they have to take indiana. every reason to believe he gets a boost in momentum. if donald trump wins indiana, 60/40 there. i am giving him west virginia and new jersey skip ago head in the calendar. at this point, if that happens, it was 50%. when i started this equation, that gets the math down to 37%. if he keeps new jersey and west vary have, he would need only 30% of the remaining delegates. remember, if you give governor kasich, new mexico and oregon for the sake of argument, if donald trump has a big win in california, that has him at
1237. that does not include those that have already committed to him. if he won new mexico and oregon, as long as he won indiana, west virginia, a big win would get him over the line, that's giving him 70%. if they get him below 70%, he moves back a little bit. it is also perfectly conceivable he could do this and win in new mexico. it is conceivable he could win oregon as well. i give you these scenarios to show you after tonight, 50% is what he will need going forward. he may get even more of the unpledged delegates in pennsylvania. hard, yes. doable, yes, you can map out a scenario to get him to 37 by the day of the california primary on june 7th without doing a lot of work. >> the other candidates, no way they can get there as they, themselves, acknowledge, their only hope is to prevent him from reaching that number and have a contested convention. that increasingly looks like it
is not going to happen. >> big night tonight. >> if donald trump wins indiana, he still has a path. if he wins, knowing what we know about new jersey and west virginia, gets pretty tough. >> anderson, that explains why he is calling himself the presumptive nominee. >> it is seven hours ago when we started on the air. we were asking, is there going to be clarity tonight? it certainly seems like there is clarity on both sides. >> donald trump had to consolidate the party in a way he is not before. up until new york, he had not reached 50% of the vote in any state. he was at 38% of the total vote through new york. tonight, we saw him post. if you count new york and the three exit polls tonight. maryland, connecticut and pennsylvania. he has now had his four best showings among republicans. his four best showings among noncollege whites, men, women, and voters that are not evangelicals and tied for his fourth and his top four showings
among college educated republicans who have been the most resistant to him. it could begin to go away at some of the states that are still down the road in nebraska. indiana is a critical state. it looks very much like missouri with a lot of evangelicals and close voters. tonight, i thought you saw donald trump beginning to consolidate the republican party in a way he had not yet been. >> it is true that momentum begets momentum. a certain psychology sets in. you can sense that happening here. but it was interesting to watch john's calculations here. because it confirms what a lot of republicans say. it is not a slam-dunk. it is going to be close. if it gets close, the party is going to have to make a decision as to whether you take the pain of trying to block trump at the convention. deny him that nomination.
half the convention is up in arms. in a general sense as you see in this polling, on the part of republican voters, that the front-runner should get the nomination. >> if you are a party leader and you are looking at the numbers and see that republicans overwhelmingly believe if you are close, you ought to get it, then it gets a little dicey for you. i think what happened tonight is that cruz set this up so that if he doesn't win indiana, he is gone. it is out. he is over. he has to get out. >> he actually has to get out? >> i any he has set it up in such a way tonight, and amanda i don't know if you agree or disagree with me but i think he has sort of made this one play for indiana, put it all on the table there. if it doesn't work for him, i don't know what he does. >> i think we saw on the sanders campaign, it seems like they have embraced the clarity of the night. i think the question will be whether or not we see the establishment on the republican
side start to embrace this clarity. you have donald trump in that speech saying he has people calling him, people you wouldn't think were calling him. will those people be public at some point? >> what do you think about cruz in indiana? >> it is important. i do think it is worth noting that this bundle states that trump won tonight when the primary calendar was designed. it was designed to favor a moderate republican like a mitt romney or a jeb bush? that turned out to be donald trump. he got a big pop out of these states. he does have to come back hard in indiana. a lot of conservatives who have real policy disagreements with trump are trying to figure out what they should do. kind of the conclusion i have drawn is that we have no obligation to do anything. this is a guy who hasn't tried to court conservatives, didn't bother showing up at cpac. really lumps groups like the club for growth and rnc all together at once. if cruz doesn't do well in
indiana, i don't see anyone lifting a finger for trump. if you are going to do this, you are doing it on your own. good luck. >> i have a suggestion for what the republican establishment should do. focus on u.s.enate races and focus on house races and governor's races, because you ain't going to win the white house. s the two nominees are going to be. each party. a year ago, we were all making fun of him. two weeks ago.
>> ted cruz m would say he is taking away donald trump's momentum. here we are sitting around here talking about the presumptive nominee of the republican party. it is astounding. i think you are stuck with a real loser if where you are goie the country. >> we have to go to break. >> in fact, he has done a tremendous amount for the republican party. he has conservative values, he is calling out issue on the trade, and i think we had a big moment this week, when we saw them say, this is no good, the party has to come together. and i think donald trump will extend it back. and the party will come back together. >> we have a new reporting, the two rivals working together, to try to deny trump. we will have that and more.
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. welcome back, take a look at this, just ten states left, 40 states have now registered. look how similar the two maps are. those are states won by hillary clinton, the dark red, states won by donald trump. similar, not exact. they are both doing well. they have impressive delegate leads right now. hillary clinton on the democratic side. donald trump, very happy right now. he expressed his thoughts just a little while ago. >> the best way to beat the system is having things like this record setting votes, record setting delegates.
i use the analogy of the boxer, when the boxer knocks out the other boxer, you don't have to wait around for a decision. >> donald trump, minusing no words. he says he is the presumptive nominee. >> he does, indeed say he is the presumptive nominee. >> he says, if you are a boxer and knock somebody out, you don't have to wait are if the referee to call the fight. i don't think according to the rules that is accurate. over his competitors, adding a lot of pad to his delegate lead. it wasn't close in the any of the five state, if you are a republican, you want to stop trump, you may be out of time. this supposed alliance with ted cruz and john kasich, one would compete in indiana, one in
oregon. they have a strategy, or working on one for california? >> they have been working on one behind the scenes, there is no question, tonight stings. according to the people involved in both campaigns, donald trump over performed their internal projections, keeping this alliance together in the california primary, all the more important. 172 delegates at stake in california. i spoke with one trump advisor before this big night. they thought they could lose 60 or 70 delegates and still get to 1237. that means cruz and kasich, if it goes as far as one wants them to do, split, where each candidate could take the lead. best donald trump. that is how they would spend their resources go being forward. as of now, indiana is the only
thing that matters to either of the campaign. going forward, should ted cruz win indiana, california would be the next step. resources for one of the primary issues for kasich's campaign was willing to enter this deal with ted cruz. california is an expensive state. they will need a lot of help on the kasich side on the money side. a lot of work for both campaigns to do after tonight. >> thanks. as you heard, it does seem like a tall order. whether or not that can happen. i want to bring in mike shields, former national committee chief of staff. there is a debate. donald trump said, as far as he is concerned he is the presumptive nominee. what would be the position of of the republican national committee be? he seems like he will be the nominee?
>> by the rules of the national committee, he is not yet the presumptive nominee. when you are, that is when you start to work with the republican national team. building the campaign. they can't get there yet. he hasn't gotten the delegates yet. until he cross says over 1237, he has to do it before the end of the primaries, or it goes to the convention. >> it does. i got a text from somebody at the rnc, not surprised that they said what you did. to be the presumptive nominee, you need 1237. there are the rules and there is the reality. even if you he gets close, closer, and becomes, somewhat sure, and goes to cleveland. isn't that going to be incredibly hard as a party to keep the nomination from him?
>> yes, from the rnc perspective. they will put on a convention to let the delegates decide. they are much waing cnn. i was with the meeting down there it he was talking to members, they are watching this. seeing this momentumum. campaigns are about momentum. four weeks now in may, the delegates, he has to take the month to get that momentum back. they are watching this going on. he will be able to influence them as delegates. >> as an old republican veteran, someone who has been around? >> waiting changes things. now, cruz, yes, they can change. we have been through two weeks
of him coming. you are saying, the argument is made to the delegates, not so much what the officials there i think. it is what argument is through to the delegates. we do the exit poles, one of the questions we started to ask. is this became a possibility, should they go with the person with the high eest if it is not the magic 1237 number, or should they decide to pick the big candidate. the will of the people. >> they are watching momentum. what is the best interest of the republican party.
136, i think by the way, if it goes to the second ballot. it goes to a second getting delegates to the conversion. he will be working on the individual delegates, between june itth and the convention, trying to get all of the delegates over the top. he can't continue to win in these contests and hawkes. he needs to win. new mexico. >> i mean, we said it before. indiana looms large, it is the next contest. there is another one every week in may. the math looks better for cruz, before all of this momentum. >> fascinating stuff. as you heard, it won't be easy, it got -- he spent the majority
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trump looked forward to a potential general election, and looked back. talked tonight how everyone doubted him. he proved them wrong. the same who thought hillary clinton will wipe the floor with him in november. he said hillary clinton would be easy to beat. >> i call her crooked hillary. she will be a horrible president. she knows nothing about jobs, except jobs for herself. when it came to answering the phone at 3:00 in the morning, she was sleeping, she wasn't with bengazi, syria, you look at what she has done in so many different ways, she will not be a good president. she doesn't have the strength. china can be dealt with, you can
get along with them. hillary doesn't have the strength or stamina to deal with china or other things. >> he spent a lot of time talking about hillary clinton tonight. she spent a lot of time talking about donald trump tonight. >> they are both eager to talk about each other and get the primary, and caucus process behind them. >> that seems abundantly clear. and more so, i think, most for donald trump, who has the furtherest to go, when it comes to being the presumptive nominee, as he said that he is. >> and david, our political director. one of the thing that is is interesting, tonight, bernie sanders making the argument that he wins independent voters, that is why he doesn't do as well in the closed primary state, where only registered democrats can
vote. he does better when voters are allowed to pick. he makes that argument to the delegate, super delegates, he would be a candidate that would be stronger than hillary clinton. he quotes head-to-head match up polls. >> he is right, he does better against a republican candidate in the general election matchups than does clinton. i think, from tonight's dat ayou will see here, it is fall og deaf ears. electability, very cloe for voters. only 11% of the of them said that winning in november, the
lowest "cardinals live" trau ford. over those, they believe winning in november, she wins those voetders. we ask, who has the best chance of beating trump? here, take connecticut tonight. hillary clinton, 64% of the primary vote of defiending trump in new york, 36%. sanders, 23%. now, as you said, he would say, only registered. my independent voters are want there to wait for it. he is trying to make the argument to super del gate, they make up the electorate. those that it is an issue, they
want she is the most, hit clinton on his honest and trurthworth trurthworthy he is making this argument as one of the last stands. i think it is falling on death ears. >> whatever you think of hillary clinton. she will have work to do to get the independent volters like be bernie sanders, they have deep doubt about her. >> right, that is why bernie sanders took off the way he did. continuing to have such passionate supporters. they like his message and the marriager for a lot of reasons, i thought it was interesting she didn't do it tonight. over the past week, she talked
about, when she ran no2008. he shot her support -- he got her supporters, didn't he help with campaign debt? >> i don't know if it was endorsement or to come on board for secretary of state. obama at some point agreed to that. there are always concessions, in jesse jackson demanded that primary become more proportional. other candidates have wanted to be considered to be vice president. the people who do very well, they earned it.
i think it is fair to say. they have earned the run to use the leverage they have, they have a lot of supporters, who well following their campaigns and want them to continue. even if they are not going to be the nominee. >> he is talking about his -- he is not saying, i demand for being considered for vip. medicare for all. these are the issues he campaigned on. there were obvious discussions back and forth, about what the campaign needed. it was a different set of circumstances, there was a strong consensus among party leadership on obama's behalf.
there wasn't a question as to -- questions for example, that clinton campaign, it was important to hear to have her name enter ed in. it would underscore that party was divided. she stopped it it came on the floor of the convention, dramatically, moved for the acclamation. it is not easy, there i is, yet roll call went forward. he did run in this campaign to the way you build a bridge is to
incorporate those issues in a significant way. >> play some, tonight, in her speed. reaching out. building that to standers. his words? >> i applaud senator sanders. giving greater emphasis to closing the gap of inequality. i know tomorrow we will get that done. whether you support senator sanders or me, there is much more that unites us than divides us. >> a good start? >> damn good start. bernie followed it up with congratulations to her. saying in effect, talking about
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. >> i am getting calls, you woonlt believe. i am getting calls from people, i can't believe how he could do it. they said such horrible things about me. now they want to join the team. >> hillary clinton grabbing four of five states on the democratic side. bernie sanders, a victory in rhode island. there are two names not on the winner's board, ted cruz and john kasich. where do their campaigns go after tonight?
earlier, john kasich did not do well. donald trump did well. >> well, trying to pick up, ted cruz may pick up, by the time we are done, on that path alone, you look at the states, look at the states, it is stunning, beyond overwhelming, here in the state of cop con, donald trumps wins with 58%. six towns for kasich. the entire state of connecticut. the rest of this is donald trump. nothing for cruz. >> donald trump wins everything else. seven towns that is how the map dividing them. now, by county, pennsylvania, the biggest prize tonight, 100%. a sweep. maryland, 100%.
sweep the for donald trump. for comparison. here is the democratic race. hillary clinton. this is a convincing win. i don't know what you call that one of the reasons why he is making the point tonight, that he believes that republican party should acknowledge the reality. and kasich and cruz will say it is a region of the country to get. but it is a win. i shoeped the down here in maryland. you see bernie sanders out here. and here. the rest of the state. ran up the score, top to bottom. in dell wear as well.
rye rye, the smallest prize tonight. hillary clinton, trailing in connecticut, she will win by a few points there. and four out of five wins, stretched it down to almost trying to say they r. still in it to win it. >> donald trump pledged delegates. going into the next. trump, 5 for 5 tonight. the polls have donald trump can add, next tuesday.