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once we start to see local transmission of zika in the united states, and it will happen, people will become really concerned. they may not be concerned until then and then all of a sudden the concern goes way up. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. turn in to "the lead" tomorrow. we'll have an exclusive interview with hillary clinton since her dominating performance on tuesday night. you can see it right here at 4:00 p.m. tomorrow. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. happening now, s.o.b., the former house speaker john boehner weighing in on the gop race for the first time and unleashing a blistering assessment of ted cruz. boehner calls him now, and i'm quoting, lucifer in the flesh and a miserable s.o.b. what is boehner's relationship with donald trump? the white house hopefuls are battling it out in indiana where the democratic primaries are only five days away and what's
at stake for front-runners donald trump and hillary clinton. and pills on prince. cnn has learned that the musical artist was carrying prescription drugs when his body was discovered. powerful opioid medication used to relieve pain. was prince treated for a possible overdose just days before his death? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." heated new rhetoric from a surprising source, former house speaker john boehner. he made a withering assessment of ted cruz calling the senator, "a miserable s.o.b. and lucifer in the flesh." boehner says he'll vote for donald trump in the general election if he's the republican nominee calling the front-runner a texting buddy with whom he's
played golf. he's holding a rally in southern california. and we're following new developments into the investigation into the death of prince. a law enforcement official now tells cnn authorities found prescription opioid medication on him and at his home in minnesota. the source says investigators believe the health scare days before prince's death was likely the result of a reaction to the pain medication. we're covering all of that much more at this hour with our guests, including chief strategist, the communications director shawn spicer and experts and analysts are standing by. let's begin with john boehner's scathing assessment of ted cruz. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is following the republican race for us. jim, extraordinary remarks by the former house speaker? >> absolutely wolf. ted cruz is doing his best to stay alive in his quest to stop donald trump from capturing the gop nomination but trump got a helping hand from john boehner
who you mentioned once a manl jur major player and now unleashing a hellacious attack on ted cruz. donald trump is no longer alone in coining his own nasty nicknames for ted cruz. >> so we came up with lyin ted. >> reporter: former house speaker john boehner had choice words for cruz this week telling college students at stanford that he's hell to work with. >> lucifer in the flesh. i have never worked with a more miss rememb miserable son of a bitch in my life. >> rejecting the former speaker's remarks while campaigning in indiana, a state that's the must-win now. >> the interesting thing is, he
said that i've ever worked with. i've never worked with john boehner. truth of the matter is, i don't know the man. >> reporter: tell that to boehner who revealed two years ago that cruz was once his attorney. >> ted cruz used to be my attorney a long time ago. >> is that right? >> yeah. he's a good guy. >> reporter: cruz also threw cold water on john kasich, which was supposed to mean that the ohio governor would no longer compete. and then tweeted, "i can't stand liars." kasich seemed to acknowledge the deal with cruz is dead saying the governor could pull off a surprise in indiana. >> i think he may surprise people in indiana. i was there on monday. >> but i thought he made a deal with cruz not to campaign in indiana and basically give up indiana. >> i thought that was supposed
to be the deal at one point. >> reporter: drama surrounding the heat off of trump still trying to explain the comment that hillary clinton is playing the woman card. >> nobody cherishes and nobody respects women more than donald trump. that i can tell you. i will be so much better to women be that hillary clinton is. >> reporter: joined by his running mate hillary clinton who once clashed with her himself. >> donald has a problem with strong women. >> reporter: now, john boehner mentioned that he has golfed and has been texting buddies with trump but from cruz, this highlights a major obstacle. inside the gop that will never stomach the texas senator as a republican nominee either, wolf. >> good point. thanks very much, jim acosta. let's get more on the campaign. sunlen serfaty is in south bend. cruz is counting on carly
fiorina to boost his campaign. what's the latest on that front? >> reporter: well, that's absolutely right, wolf. carly fiorina is quickly becoming a real core part of the cruz campaign and you can hear her behind me speaking. she's spent the entire day with senator cruz barn storming this date. a cruz official telling me that they are going to be taking on this divide and conquer strategy where they say no one else has a running mate, they can cover double the amount of ground between now and tuesday here in indiana dispatching carly fiorina in addition to senator cruz all over the state. it is very clear that they understand that this state is critical for them and senator cruz just sent out a fundraising e-mail here in indiana. speaking to that, he called it for the first time a deciding factor and said tuesday will be the single most important date for his campaign so far. and really getting the closest, i should say, to defining this state and this election night on
tuesday here in indiana as a make or break moment for his campaign and that e-mail senator cruz saying that the bad news is that if donald trump wins all of the delegates in indiana, his nomination could be all but determined. wolf? >> sunlen, what else has cruz said about being compared to lucifer about the former speaker of the house john boehner? >> well, it's interesting, he spent so much time responding to these statements by john boehner. very clear that he almost enjoyed responding to it today, saying that john boehner does not know me, i don't know him. specifically going out of his way, as you heard him in jim acosta's speech to bring out that he once reached out to john boehner during the government shutdown and claimed that he had no interest in working for him. here's what senator cruz said today. >> when john boehner calls me lucifer, he's not directing that at me. he's directing that at you. what boehner is angry with me more is not anything i have ever
said to him. i haven't said much of anything. what boehner is angry with me more is standing with the american people. >> reporter: in many ways, this falls right into senator cruz's play book where he likes to rail against the washington establishment and those players in washington that fires up its base a lot and certainly we saw carly fiorina bring that up on the campaign trail. wolf. >> sunlen serfaty, thank you very in south bend, indiana. joining us, the republican national committee chief strategist, communications director sean spicer. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> let's talk about the former house speaker john boehner calling senator ted cruz lucifer in the flesh. let me play a little clip for you. listen to this. >> lucifer in the flesh. i have a history of getting along with almost everybody.
in washington, i have as many democratic friends as i have republican friends. but i have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life." >> later in the day, representative peter king of new york told me that gives lucifer a good name. what's your reaction to that kind of talk? >> wolf, i think you and i have talked about this in the past. i'm not a big fan of republican on republican hits. i think we should save them for the democrats, frankly, and only undermines our case as we try to get into cleveland as a unified party. i hope we can continue moving forward in these remaining ten contests to make sure that we keep our eye on the prize and that's hillary clinton. because republicans have a better solution to offer. i think we need to talk about that. allow the campaigns to differentiate each other and people on both sides on all of these remaining campaigns are passionate about their individual candidate and i think that's great. we have to remember that it's great to advocate for your
campaign and your candidate. but let's keep the attacks focused on hillary clinton and the democrats. >> i think you'll agree, sean, these kinds of comments highlight the divisions within the republican party. here's the question. does it hurt the republican chances of winning in november? >> no. i think the bigger point gets wrapped together and the party unifies. it's happened all the way through history and will happen on our side again. everyone will be passionate about their individual, whether we have an open convention or donald trump gets to the bound delegates that he needs but as long as the process is fair and people understand that we need to stay focused and build our party, we don't have room, you know this, we've lost the last two presidential elections. we've had to build our party, not subtract from it. we need every republican plus to win in november. we don't have room for division. >> ted cruz's decision to name carly fiorina as his running mate is long before the
convention. how does this help him? >> look, each of these campaigns is trying to figure out -- you've got one path which is the trump path figuring out how to get to the 1237 bound delegates or how do we get to a combination of bound and unbound and win it on the first vote. i'd say that's the trump strategy. and then for both kasich and cruz, their strategy is completely opposite. how do we deny or pick up enough delegates between the two of us or individually that we go into the convention, make it open and present ourselves to the delegates on a second or third ballot. so i think what trump -- what cruz in particular is doing is -- frankly, i don't speak for the cruz campaign, i think they are trying to excite their base and look at the remaining ten states, the remaining 400-plus delegates out there and try to figure out what surrogates, what actions they need to take to enhance their standing.
>> donald trump once again today accused hillary clinton of playing the so-called women's card. do you think this could potentially hurt the party overall with female voters in a general election? >> well, no. hillary clinton has talked about it. i don't think anyone is accusing her of doing it. she's talked openly about the fact of why electing a woman would be great and her place in history. i don't think anyone is accusing her. she stated it for a fact. i think how we talk about women, the importance that they are, the majority of the voters in the united states, figuring out how we talk and communicate the solutions that our party has to the various segments of the female population, we're talking to younger female voters, older women. there are different segments. i think we've absolutely got to be talking about how or focusing on how to reach out to different segments and we do very well with older women and married
women and i think what we find is younger, single women, we have a bigger problem with. that's where we've got to focus in the growth in our party and a couple of the other demographics that we face challenges. there's some areas that we need to do better and figure out how to communicate effectively with them. >> sean, stand by. we are more to discuss including donald trump's assertion that he's a presumptive republican nominee. much more with sean spicer right after this. with 5-door versatility, advanced hybrid technology and dynamic sport-tuned suspension... it has a side for every side of you. ♪ the lexus ct. it's up for as much as you are. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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nomination. trump says that people can presume that he'll be the nominee. trump calls himself the presumptive nominee. he said it tuesday night. look at the delegates to date, the count right now. 991 for trump, 568 for cruz, 154 for kasich. the number needed to win is 1237. trump is almost there, right? >> well, right. let's break this down a little. we actually have the count closer to 950 in terms of bound delegates which is those who must vote for him. where he stands vis-a-vis us is about 950. he needs about 250 to get the magic number of delegates.
we've already had 2,027 delegates allocated. there's 445 remaining over ten states. this tuesday, you'll have 57 in indiana and then the last contest is on june 7th. including 172 in california alone. once he gets that 1237 bound delegates, which will -- won't occur before that june 7th date in california, then we'll know if he's actually the presumptive nominee. right now he's still about 280 short with 445 delegates total to go. >> yeah. good numbers for trump. he's still 400 plus ahead of cruz and way, way ahead of kasich right now. he's in a strong position. i want to quickly get your thoughts on controversy. trump yesterday suggested his policy was america first. but many have now pointed out that was a phrase used back in the 1930s by isolationists who didn't want the united states to get involved in world war ii.
is the phrase america first something that the republican national committee would embrace? >> look, i'm not endorsing anyone's particular foreign policy or policy. but i think if someone comes around and says i want america to be first, i think we can do internet searches and find out -- i think you get the gist of it. so obama used the phrase forward before. i bet you i can find some group that used that phrase or used that nefariously. i think we're searching too much for a controversy these days in all fronts. look, we all got what he meant. i'm not endorsing anyone's particular speech or foreign policy but we've got to stop looking for controversy in every phrase that people use. >> your boss, reince priebus, trump is calling him a very good man. he's said it now a few times. two weeks ago he was calling him a disgrace. i can only assume that reince priebus and donald trump have spoken lately on the phone and
have come to new understandings. can you fill us in on that? >> well, i've always thought he was a good man, as you can imagine. i know you think the same. but look, you can go back if you want to keep reminding the tape, he tweeted out, had a great meeting with reince in the rnc. he clearly has a problem with how delegates are allocated and selected. i think we continue to talk with him and his campaign and the role that we actually do play. i'm glad that he's talking about the job that we're doing and the great job that chairman priebus has done leading this team and i assume we'll see that moving forward. it benefits going back to the last block but we need a unified party and they talk quite often explaining what the party is doing to prepare ourselves for
the general election. our opposition research on hillary clinton and digital operation and the amazing ground game that we've had for years. we had four staffers in the field at this point in 2012. we have hundreds now. i think that every one of those campaigns is continuing to realize more and more that it's going to be a ready organization to help them propel out in history. >> sean spicer, thank you very much. >> thanks, wolf. another quick break. much more coming up. news on the democratic side as well. the democratic race for the white house. we'll update you on that when we come back. i am benedict arnold, the infamous traitor. and i know a thing or two about trading. so i trade with e*trade, where true traders trade
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john boehner revealing his deep dislike for senator ted cruz with blistering remarks. let's talk about that and more. joining us, political commentator s.e. cupp, chief political correspondent dana bash and cnn politics executive editor mark preston. also joining us, political commentator ana navarro. mark, these comments from john boehner, i'll play it once again, talking about ted cruz. >> how about ted cruz? >> lucifer in the flesh. i have a history of getting along with almost everybody in washington. i have as many democratic friends as i have republican friends but i have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life. >> he called him a miserable
s.o.b. >> how do you really feel about ted cruz? tell us. >> it does highlight the divisions within the republican party right now. >> right. it certainly highlights the divisions between ted cruz and the rest of the republican party. john boehner really went through a lot of angst with ted cruz shutting down the government, putting his members of congress who are up for re-election in jeopardy, having to explain why they were shutting down the government. you know, ted cruz would really be in this position. i don't think he'd be in this position where he's on the verge of losing the republican nomination. had he reached out and tried to make amends with the republican colleagues in congress. >> it sort of highlights, dana, within the republican party, among the republican leadership, there's a never trump movement but also a never cruz movement as well. >> and it's kind of been an ebb and flow of where these establishment members or sitting members of congress have been for a long time it was, okay, i'd rather have trump than cruz and then it was, well, mmm, when
donald trump got himself talk in trouble talking about women and now it seems to be kind of the whole entire establishment has gone much more towards trump except maybe lindsey graham. but the one thing you have to keep in mind here is that i don't think it's a stretch to say that john boehner is former speaker john boehner in large part because of ted cruz. so the kinds of things that he said, calling him lucifer and a miserable s.o.b., that's tame compared to how he really feels and the fact that he helped push the house republican rank and file to push for a shutdown and so on and so forth but it's also that, as somebody reminded me today, cruz would have regular meetings with the sort of insurgent house republicans to try to figure out how they can make john boehner's life miserable. i mean, what do you expect him to think. >> s.e., you wanted to weigh in? >> well, all of that is true but you just wish -- this election is already crazy and chaotic
enough. it just doesn't feel necessary. it's definitely not helpful. unless john boehner is planning to support donald trump, this kind of was the last thing that, you know, this election needed was john boehner throwing ted cruz -- we know how you feel about ted cruz. our memories are not short. >> but isn't pay back a -- >> it is. it's an s.o.b. but it just felt unnecessary. >> it did. boehner said he plays golf -- has played golf with donald trump and texts with donald trump. so i wouldn't rule out the possibility -- he might support him. go ahead, ana. >> look, i actually think this is the best thing that could ever happen to ted cruz today. it distracts us from this absurd theater yesterday of when he introduced a vp nominee despite the fact that he's not a presumptive nominee and joan boehner was not very well liked in the republican base. getting into a fight with john
boehner is not a bad thing for ted cruz. i don't think he was channelling his inner trump. he's channelling john boehner. he would say these things when he was speaker. imagine when he's free from the few restraints he had on himself when he was speaker. i think he's speaking his mind. it's not a surprise to anybody and there is a reason why ted cruz has been harping on these comments and bringing them back up over and overall day. it is a good thing for ted cruz. >> trump once again denied, s.e., that he's playing the women's card against hillary clinton and some of the comments he's making. there's a lot of concern out there, including among republicans, this could backfire against trump in a general election. he's got some problems with women voters nationally to begin with. >> let me separate this. saying that hillary clinton plays the women card, i don't think that's controversial. i don't think it's wrong. she frequently trots out the fact that she would be the first female president.
even when asked policy questions, she talks about being a woman as some sort of informer for some of her policies. so i don't take any umbridge with hillary clinton doing that. it's the other stuff. it's hillary clinton going to the bathroom in the middle of the debate is disgusting. the comments that he's made about megyn kelly and plenty of other women. that's the stuff that i think people are going to find unpresidential, unelectable and problematic for him in a general. >> i think we're reading a lot into this that maybe we shouldn't in that he is doing what donald trump does best, which is he boils it down to the most fundamental message that really does resonate with his supporters which is, come on, guys, we know she'd be the first female president but so what. there's more to it than that. that's effectively what he's trying to day and there are other people who really do want
a female to be president. >> mark, it's 24 hours now since carly fiorina was named the vice presidential running mate for ted cruz. how's that playing politically? >> silence is deafening. i spoke to a long-time friend of dana and i who is a reporter, columnist for the indianapolis star and asked him, how is it playing out in indiana? and he's like, it's not playing at all. this is not going to have any effect here in this state. it's fallen flat. tell me where it's going to work. people were saying it's california, she ran for the senate. she ran for the senate six years ago and she lost. i just don't know -- it's a hail mary they had to throw but i don't think it's going to get lost in the end. >> she lost by almost 6 million votes to barbara boxer a few years ago. >> she made barbara boxer spend millions and millions of dollars
to keep her seat. carly fiorina is a force to be reckoned with. anybody would be lucky to have carly fiorina as is surrogate on their team or ticket. that said, i'm not sure what this buys ted cruz. it's not like there's any connection between carly fiorina he a indiana. this is sort of like the last stop for cruz. i don't see a downside. i don't think she's going to weigh him down but i don't think she's going to solve any of the problems that he has and those are largely related to donald trump. >> ana, go ahead. i know you want to weigh in as well. >> well, look, i agree with s.e. i think carly fiorina is a very effective advocate. she likes doing this thing. she likes the surrogate work and doing interviews. i also don't think there's many people that would lend themselves to this and marco
rubio or elected office that has got to be accountable to voters and constituents would do this and have the time to play this role while it is just maybe rehearsal and doesn't amount to anything else? it's a great thing for carly. i think she enjoys doing it. i think it allows them to double the coverage. >> let me just give maybe a counter argument, which is, what has he got to lose. >> right. >> and what has she got to lose? >> yeah. >> especially when the message that they are clearly trying to send is not just to voters in indiana but they hope if they do well to voters in indiana to delegates at the con venge. they want it to be a real ticket as opposed to, they argue, donald trump who is just a new york liberal and is not really one of us. here's the proof. you've got a conservative at the top of the ticket and will be number two. >> guys, stand by. much more to discuss. much more political news, including on the democratic side as well.
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we're noticing important new developments in the democratic presidential race right now. senator bernie sanders is looking ahead campaigning in oregon which doesn't hold its primary for another 2 1/2 weeks. hillary clinton, though, is looking even further ahead to the general election. let's bring in our senior
political correspondent brianna keilar. a lot of focus right now from the democratic side on donald trump. >> no. that's certainly right. hillary clinton focusing is a lot on him and bernie sanders, as you mentioned, is looking for a strong finish out west. the clinton campaign thinks layoffs and talk of unifying the party this summer are an acknowledgement that he cannot win the nomination and they see an opening to hit donald trump and emphasize clinton's message while trump is still focused on the republican primary. tonight, hillary clinton is upping her attacks on donald trump. >> everything i have said and do, i do. >> reporter: the clinton campaign releasing this new video unleashing its glimpse at the strategy for taking on the gop front-runner, highlighting trump's promises. >> we're going to have a deportation force, a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. you have to take out their families. >> you say you would go further than waterboarding. is that right? >> absolutely.
>> reporter: the fresh offensive coming after the two exchanged fire over women issues. >> the only thing she's got going is the women's card and the good thing s. women don't like her. >> fighting for women's health care and paid family leave and equal play is playing the women card, then deal me in! >> reporter: clinton's new focus on trump comes after a dominating performance in tuesday's five-state primary putting her 215 delegates shy of clinching the nomination. but sanders insists the primary fight is not over yet. >> we are in this campaign to win and become the democratic nominee. >> reporter: declaring that he can turn the race around and ultimately still win the nomination. >> i am very good in arithmetic. and i can count delegates and we are behind today. but you know what, unusual things happen in politics. >> reporter: but the sanders
campaign is significantly downsizing, dropping to, at most, 350 staffers down from a recent peak of over 3,000. sanders' wife says no one should write her husband off. >> back in mid-march he lost five states and everybody was writing his political obituary and then we came back to win eight in a row. the next states look much better and we hope to do really well there. >> reporter: but the clinton campaign is also focused on new conciliatory talk for both bernie and jane sanders as a good sign as clinton focuses much more of her time on hitting donald trump on a number of fronts from national security to, as you heard, women's issues. >> jane sanders came to hillary clinton's defense in the wake of the face of the charges that donald trump was leveling against her. >> that's right. the clant campaign is paying more attention to that than some of the language that he's going to stay in it. >> brianna, thank you very much.
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disturbing new information is coming in to "the situation room" right now as investigators look into prince's death. the legendary musician's body was discovered in his home one week ago. brian todd is joining us. what have you learned? >> this investigation has ratcheted up to the level of bringing in the feds.
a source tells us that the dea is now helping to investigate prince's death. this comes as we have alarming new clues of what the legendary singer may have been taking around the time he died. ♪ purple rain, purple rain >> reporter: just days before his death, he pushed himself to perform with two concerts in atlanta. he had suffered from a bad hip, often seen carrying a cane. tonight, new information that prince was also carrying some powerful pain drugs at the time of his death. a law enforcement official telling cnn authorities found prescription opioid information on his person and at his minnesota home. the official says nearly a week before his death, a reaction likely caused an emergency landing of prince's private plane in illinois when the pop star passed out. >> what's the nature of the emergency? >> an unresponsive passenger. >> reporter: prince was treated for a possible overdose for the medication and later released
from the hospital and returned to minnesota. opioids are helpful for pain causing respiratory suppression. we know when we take these, people become drowsy because they slow the activity in different parts of the brain. if it slows the breathing centers too much, people stop breathing and that's what kills them with an overdose. >> reporter: tonight it is not clear where prince got the medication and whether it was prescribed to him. experts say there's an antidote to opioids which could have saved him after the landing. >> can reverse overdose rapidly. the key is you have to get narcan in him in time. >> reporter: they say they may not have had time to give him narcan at the time of his death. >> all of the officers carry narcan and that was not used at all.
>> reporter: there may not have been anyone there to revive the pop star. the sheriff says prince was alone in paisley park when he died. at some point someone got there and called 911. >> medical at paisley park, person down not breathing. >> reporter: regarding cnn's reporting on opioids, we reached out several time to prince's representatives for their response to the reporting. so far they have given no response. we asked the medical examiner's office in minnesota if prince had opioids in his system. they say so far they have no new information to give us on that. friends and those that work with prince told news outlets they don't remember him being on any medication. his lawyer saying he wasn't on any drugs that would be cause for concern. wolf? >> brian, there could be serious ramifications for whoever gave prince these opioids, right? >> certainly could, wolf. former dea agents say indictments could come as a result of this, whether it was a doctor or someone else who got it for him, it is possible they
could be charged with reckless indifference or homicide. what investigators have to make sure of, one, did he die from taking opioids, two, if he did, was it overdose or bad reaction, maybe something in his physiology didn't match the medication. investigators are looking hard at those questions tonight. >> brian, thanks very much. getting into breaking news about the prince investigation. justice reporter evan perez has been breaking some of this news. what else have you learned? >> so far investigators found no indication that prince had a prichgs for these pills that were found on him in his house when he died. that's one of the key questions here is whether or not he had a current prescription. so far investigators found no indication that he had a current, valid prescription. the question begins where did the pills come from, how long has he been taking them. that's top of the list for the investigators. >> you also reported, correct me if i'm wrong, local police asked
the drug enforcement agency in washington to help with the investigation. >> exactly. the dea's role is to figure out where the origin of the pills are, if perhaps a doctor was giving it to him or if there were intermediates and the dea knows them, they are very much used in people who take the drugs illegally, they use runners who obtain the pills and then resell them on the secondary market, wolf. >> do investigators know enough to conclude already that the drugs or overdose of the drugs actually killed him? >> not at this point, wolf. they're still right now waiting for results of the toxicology tests. that will tell them more about what he had in his system, how recently he took this. as brian mentioned, there was a previous incident where he had an emergency landing. they gave him narcan or a version of that to be able to stop what they thought was an
overdose. we don't know whether that's the case on the day of his death. >> how hard is it to get these kind of prescription painkillers if you don't have a doctor's prescription. >> way too easy. it is a huge problem in this country. they call it diversion. dea is doing an event this weekend to highlight the problem to try to get people to when they get prescriptions, if they have some leftover to throw them away, it is a big problem, secondary market, they get big bucks on this. a lot of dealers make money selling this to people that are addicted. >> huge problem all over the country, right now growing almost every day. we know they did an autopsy, they haven't released results of the autopsy, but i assume investigators have seen partial results so far, right? >> i think that's one reason you see the dea involved here. one of the things they want to make sure, they know it is a high profile case. they want to know where the pills came from, if there was somebody that committed a crime, those people will be charged, not necessarily for causing the
death because we don't know that, but certainly if you are funneling illegal pills to someone, that's a crime. >> stay on top of this story for us, evan perez. thanks for that excellnt reporting. coming up, former house speaker john boehner called ted cruz lucifer in the flesh. luc . you're here to buy a car.
trump's self proclaimed texting buddy. i will ask if john boehner is doing the republican frontrunner any favors. jeb's disappointment. the former candidate speaking out exclusively to cnn for the first time since he quit the gop race, stand by for bush's insights on his exit and state of the campaign right now. melania trump isn't happy about a magazine profile that digs deep into her family history. i'll ask the author what she learned that got the would be first lady so upset. successful, new missile tests by north korea appear to have failed. did kim jong-un succeed at provoking the west again in his quest to be able to launch nuclear weapons. we want to welcome viewers around the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."
tonight, donald trump isn't the only republican who is using eye popping language to attack ted cruz, as the gop candidates head into a make or break primary battle only five days from now. the former house speaker john boehner is unloading on cruz in a new interview, likening him to the devil and calling him a, quote, miserable sob. cruz accusing him of his inner trump coming out. cruz now throwing everything he can into the upcoming fight in indiana, hoping it won't be his last stand. i'll ask trump campaign national spokeswoman katrina pierson about the republican race right now and boehner's cruz bashing. correspondents and analysts are standing by as we cover today's top stories. sarah murray joins us from evansville, indiana right now
with the latest. sarah? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. indiana could be a make or break state for ted cruz and donald trump knows that full well. that's why he spent his afternoon campaigning here and landing final punches against cruz in the days leading into the indiana primary. donald trump is hoping to finish off ted cruz in the hoosier state. >> if cruz sneezes, his people leave him. in the senate he's known as a liar. so we came up with lyin ted. >> reporter: cruz brushes aside trump's criticism of his latest political ploy, choosing carly fiorina as his running mate before anyone has won the nomination. >> donald does one of four things, he yells, he screams, he curses, or he insults. you could start a drinking game
on which of the four donald will respond to any given stimulus that might occur. >> reporter: cruz and trump locked in a two man race after john kasich agreed to stop campaigning in indiana in exchange for cruz skipping oregon and new mexico. today cruz is denying that hail mary pass amounts to an alliance. >> there is no alliance. kasich and i made a determination where to focus our energies, where to focus our assets, where to focus our resources. >> reporter: while plenty of republicans still have reservations about trump, others are expressing strong concerns about cruz. former house speaker john boehner blasting cruz in an interview at stanford university. >> lucifer in the flesh. i have as many democrat friends as i have republican friends. i have never worked with a more miserable son of a [bleep] in my life. >> john boehner had some interesting comments, he didn't
abbreviate what he said. he was a bit more expressive. he allowed his inner trump to come out. >> reporter: trump may be cleaning up in the primaries. >> because i am winning by millions of votes. >> reporter: in the general, his numbers with women could use some work. today he repeated his claim that hillary clinton is only winning by playing the gender card. >> the primary thing she has going is that she's a woman and she's playing that card like i have never seen anybody play it before. >> reporter: now donald trump is out with a new campaign ad in indiana, hits ted cruz on trade agreements, just a sign that even though the trump campaign feels confident about their odds, they're taking nothing for granted and hoping to deal a final blow to ted cruz here in indiana. wolf? >> thanks very much. sarah murray reporting. while ted cruz brushes off john boehner's harsh words, he is talking about the primary in
indiana. sunlen serfaty is over there. what have you learned? >> reporter: it is clear how pivotal a state this is for the cruz campaign. everything they're saying and doing from their complete focus to ramped up rhetoric about the state indicates how pivotal and critical it is, that it is for them all about tuesday here in indiana. for the first time we heard senator cruz call this state, could be especially said a deciding factor, called it the single most important, biggest day of his campaign so far. in a fundraising e-mail to supporters today, he kind of painted an ominous warning or message about the states going forward. he said according to the e-mail, the bad news is if donald trump wins all of the delegates in indiana, his nomination could all be but determined. determined, a keyword there. such a core part of the cruz strategy going forward was banking on a boost of momentum and rolling out the running mate
choice of carly fiorina. she campaigned with him all day here today, wolf, and the cruz campaign say they'll be adopting a divide and conquer strategy in the days going forward where they feel they can get double the ground game covered by dispatching each of them on their own, all of course leading to tuesday's big day. >> sunlen, thanks very much. sunlen serfaty in south bend, indiana. joining us, trump national spokeswoman katrina pierson. thanks for joining us. >> great to be here. >> you hear senator cruz going after donald trump saying he is not going to get the majority, going to be an open contest in cleveland at the convention. your analysis now, what do you say to senator cruz who says trump is not going to be the nominee? >> i think what we are seeing is the cruz campaign in free for all. just last week, donald trump is not going to get the delegates, we are going to contested convention. on sunday he announced the alliance with john kasich, trying to prevent that from
happening. today we're hearing that wasn't the case, and now there's carly fiorina. who picks a vice presidential candidate 24 hours after being eliminated from the contest. >> how important is indiana tuesday? >> i think indiana is extremely important. mr. trump is campaigning in indiana right now. there are a lot of jobs that are going to be at stake for things like nafta. we have tpp on the table, something that senator cruz was in support of when he cast his vote for fast track on the obama trade bill. this is very serious. the people of indiana are very aware, which is exactly why you see the cruz campaign frustrated. >> trump potentially could lose in indiana, right? >> anything could happen. mr. trump has been leading in the polls the last few weeks, he has been well received there, received an amazing endorsement. i think we will do well in indiana. we had an amazing night tuesday. that sent a huge example. it is the trump campaign where you have conservatives, moderates, even democrats and
independents voting for donald trump. it is that message of making america great again that's winning. >> are you worried about the so-called deal that was worked out between cruz and kasich, that kasich wouldn't campaign in indiana, opening up the door potentially for cruz to get more votes? >> no, not at all. that's not how voters work. this is what the unfortunate thing is. you have two establishment politicians trying to make a deal and think the voters are going to fall for it. if there's one thing we learned this cycle is that people are paying attention to the system and the process and they're tired of politics, which is exactly why donald trump is breaking records. >> i want to play for you the clip, this is former house speaker john boehner speaking his mind about senator ted cruz. listen. >> ted cruz, lucifer in the flesh. i have a history of getting along with almost everybody in washington. i have as many democratic friends as i have republican
friends, i get along with everybody. i never worked with a more miserable son of a [bleep] in my life. >> a miserable sob, if you will, you're smiling. you like what you heard. >> well, i mean, when people are talking candidly without microphones and cameras they say what they think and say what they mean. the difference is donald trump says that to your face. it is no secret there are a lot of people that don't like senator ted cruz for whatever reason, but this also goes to show you the difference here between donald trump and ted cruz. you can't have it both ways, wolf. trying to paint donald trump as the establishment candidate. yesterday the cruz campaign was saying they have candidates behind them, the establishment and the republicans are coalescing and that's not the case. >> mr. trump keeps saying in recent days, he is beginning to get phone calls from people who used to be critical of him. now are being nicer, seemingly
ready to jump on the trump band wagon. can you name these people for us? >> i cannot name those people for you, i'm sure you'll hear those names soon because there are a lot of people that understand the voters. when you have a candidate that's only been a politician for the last ten months who is winning the majority of the votes and winning delegates for that matter, mr. trump has a message of winning, putting america first. he is not beholden to goldman, sachs and special interest and lobby groups that other candidates are. that's a winning message for today. >> we heard from or enhaskell. he said if he does win, i'm going to do everything in my power. from orrin hatch who is a republican establishment leader, i am sure that brings a smile to your face. >> it does. we're hearing it from so many people. >> not publicly but privately.
>> yes, wolf, some are doing it publicly. had an endorsement came out, a pennsylvania congressman. people are understanding that times have changed. things post world war ii have been different. we need to renegotiate some trade deals, putting america first, getting jobs at home and secure our borders at home. the american people want these things and there's one candidate willing to do that, and that's donald trump. >> and the decision by ted cruz to name carly fiorina as his vice presidential running mate, you're smiling at that as well. >> like everyone else, i am trying to figure out what that means. carly fiorina is a nice woman, good business background i presume, but at the end of the day she has been campaigning with him for seven weeks already and he has gone down in the national polls by ten points, and she bowed out early coming in seventh in early states, i am not sure what value that's added unless just to attack donald trump. >> stand by, katrina. we have more to discuss, including additional reaction
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things. want to get your reaction, he is out on the campaign trail for donald trump. listen to this. >> harry truman, with what he did in dropping and having the guts to drop the bomb in 1944 saved, saved millions of american lives, and that's what harry truman did, and he became one of the three great presidents of the united states. and here's a man who would do the same thing because he's going to become one of the four great presidents of the united states. >> he misspoke, said billions of americans, meaning millions of americans. what's your reaction when you hear talk like that, that donald trump would drop the bomb, for example. >> this is an example of what people are associating with mr. trump's strength and leadership, not the fact that he would actually drop an a bomb, but the fact that he is not
going to draw imaginary ee red lines and back away. we have a president that is not respected in the world, seen as a leader or strong for that matter, specifically when he spent the first term apologizing to the world for everything and putting americans second or dead last in some cases. this was just speaking to the strength and the leadership that he sees in donald trump like so many other people. >> national security speech, foreign policy speech yesterday, he had a lot of broad outlines but there weren't a lot of specifics, he left it sort of vague. will he come up with more specifics in the weeks and months ahead? >> well, what mr. trump did was outline his vision. he wanted to make it clearest going to put americans first. he talked about specifics with regard to some alliances with some of the trade deals we have, how we're spending money on our military defending other nati s nations' borders and not our own. i understand that they want to
keep things the way they are, but it is not working. things have changed. a lot of these entities were put in place in world war ii. things have changed, the world has changed. threats have changed. we have not adjusted accordingly. that's why mr. trump talks about nato. we spend hundreds of billions of dollars when it comes to afghanistan and libya, we have taken the lion's share of the burden even when every other nato country voted. we can't continue to do that. we are spending money, it is out of control. we have americans hurting. >> will we see with trump as nominee america first as a theme, a motto? >> the theme is make america great again. put americans first. >> america first brings back from the '30s, isolationists fought to prevent the united states from getting involved in
world war ii, there's controversy around that phrase. >> there's controversy around everything. good news, it is not the 1930s, and the great news we have a candidate that can fulfill ideas to put americans first with regard to the economy, foreign policy and with jobs for that matter. donald trump is that candidate. >> i was looking at the numbers, they're impressive from your perspective, from the trump campaign's perspective. trump got more than 10 million votes in the contests, 40 states. cruz, 6.8 million. kasich 3.6 million. more importantly, on delegates so far by our estimate, trump 991, kasich, 154. if someone is normally ahead by those numbers, that individual is the nominee, the other candidates understand they're not going to be the neiman drop out, but this time around that's not happening why? >> because candidates wanted to stick around even though they have been mathematically eliminated.
this is nothing new. last two cycles we had the establishment force a candidate down our throats, told us hold your nose, vote for this candidate. now that didn't work. the people have chosen a different candidate, now they don't want to accept it. i believe after indiana we're going to see the party come together. mr. trump has been saying this for months. he is the presumptive frontrunner, whether you look at delegates or popular vote. >> certainly a frontrunner. he says he is the presumptive nominee, is that what you -- >> i do, i would definitely say that. mr. trump will get delegates prior to the convention. even if it does go to the convention, he is going to win on first vote. he is a man who has brought a broad spectrum of voters, new voters, independent voters, young people, even women. we saw that play out tuesday. >> thanks for coming in. katrina pierson. jeb bush may be out of the race, but hasn't stopped hammering donald trump. stand by, the exclusive cnn interview with jeb bush and his
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trump potentially closing in on the republican presidential nomination. jeb bush is speaking out for the first time since he quit the race, talking to our correspondent jamie gangel. jamie, has jeb bush's view of trump changed at all? >> not at all, wolf. jeb bush is breaking his silence for one reason. he's hoping to help ted cruz get to a contested convention and of course to stop donald trump from reaching that magic number of 1237. do you think the race is over? is he the presumptive nominee? >> no, not yet. i am a ted cruz supporter, i want to support a consistent conservative that actually could win. i don't think donald trump could beat the democratic nominee. >> do you think there's still a viable stop trump movement? >> my personal belief is if donald trump is the nominee, look, my views have been consistent about this, we'll
lose the senate and we'll lose the presidency in a landslide and our country can't afford that. >> do you think the republican party should get around him? >> i think they should support ted cruz. >> so yesterday ted cruz announced that his vice presidential pick would be carly fiorina. >> yeah. >> was that a hail mary pass? >> picking a candidate that is talented, tough, you know, she takes on trump really well i think and takes on hillary clinton very will as well, someone who has a proven record and has been vetted as a candidate i thought was a smart move by ted cruz. >> you think it was the right pick? >> i do. i'm impressed with her. >> you've said in the past that you didn't think that donald trump was ready to be president. but if he is the nominee, will you support him? >> i don't think he's a serious
person. >> you haven't changed your mind. >> no. i've seen nothing, the speech, recent speech about foreign policy was -- you can't -- i don't know which donald trump to believe, the one that read from the teleprompter, a speech that was inside the lines or that we will build a wall and make mexico pay for it. which one is expressing these views, there's two of them. i think we need a president with a steady hand. >> it sounds like you won't vote for him. >> i hope i am not faced with that dilemma. >> do you think there's a case to be made for republicans voting for hillary clinton if he is the nominee? >> no, no. a third term of barack obama's hyperaggressive use of executive power to create massive uncertainty for our economy. >> let me try one more time.
you're not voting for hillary clinton. >> no way. >> and you don't think republicans should vote for hillary clinton to stop donald trump. >> no, i don't think we should support hillary clinton. >> looking back at the campaign, how do you feel about how you did, what you did. >> well, i don't think about it too much. i concluded that whatever mistakes i made i certainly made them, probably wouldn't have changed the outcome. >> what do you think happened? >> definitely a crazy year. look, donald trump was, still is phenomenal. >> if donald trump is the nominee for the republican party, will you rally around him? >> i am hopeful he won't be the nominee. >> do you think you'll ever run for politics again? >> who me? >> i learned to never say never but, you know, this was my chance.
that was the chance and i ran into a storm. >> no regrets? >> no, none at all. >> i thought it was fascinating, wolf, that he was not rule out a future run but look, the facts are the strategy here, the reason he spoke today is he is trying to do everything possible to help ted cruz win indiana or do well enough there. indiana is considered the fire wall. wolf? >> jamie, excellent interview. thank you so much for doing it. really appreciate that. jamie gangel in miami. let's bring in gloria borger, lana summers, and julia, columnist for foreign policy magazine. welcome to cnn. good to have you here on the team. let's talk about what we heard from jeb bush. what did you think? >> i agree with jamie first of all.
i thought it was interesting. he's not saying never would he run again, says he has no regrets. what i thought was interesting, he wouldn't go outright, say i am not going to support donald trump, what he said is i don't think republicans should nominate donald trump. those are two different things. seeing what people like jeb bush and other establishment republicans that are closer to traditional party do if donald trump clinches the nomination, it will be fascinating. a lot of people will be looking to jeb bush and paul ryan and asking a serious question, what do you do next, is there a candidate on second ballot if he does clinch the nomination. >> gloria, there are signs that republicans are looking to join team trump now, trump himself said he started to get calls from individuals that previously criticized him. today senator orrin hatch told cnn if trump does win, he said, quote, i'm going to do everything in my power to help him. are we starting to see the party
rally around the frontrunner. >> i think you're starting to see the beginning of it. i was talking to a senior strategist that does a lot of work with senate races, in touch with republican senators constantly. he said to me look, you cannot underestimate what tuesday night meant to people. when somebody wins with 59 and 60% margins in three way races, you have to pay attention to reality. the reality is, these are his words, that everybody is waking up to the fact that donald trump is likely to be the nominee in the republican party. jeb bush still holding out hope as jamie showed us, but most people on capitol hill are understanding now that this is, you know, this is likely to happen. so what are they going to do. run against their own nominee or figure out a way to work with him and hopefully as this republican said to me help him shape his policy platform so it is something that they can run
on and they believe they can have some impact on that, unlike with ted cruz who is kind of set in stone. they believe trump is a little more malleable, they're starting to get used to this idea. >> i think you're right on that. i know you're looking closely at the numbers in upcoming races, 40 states had primaries and caucuses, ten states to go. at what point based on all of the indications you're seeing does trump have delegates necessary to be the nominee? >> spent a lot of time crunching numbers for the new york politics app. we found he needs 246 more delegates, 49% of the remaining available delegates to go, and we looked at his patterns and states that are up next, notably indiana, with 57 up for grabs tuesday, we think he can probably get there around june 7th. that's final day of voting, states like california with its stock of delegates.
that's when he can clinch the nomination, barring a big event, or john kasich or ted cruz able to take delegates away. right now, if he keeps going the way he does, looks like he is on track. >> new jersey is june 7th as well, a state presumably could do well in. julia, you wrote a fascinating article about melania in the new issue of "gq," and saw similarities between her father and donald trump. tell us about that. >> this is not something i was expecting to hear. i went to slovenia to her home country, hometown, a small manufacturing town, and all the neighbors and people that knew her family or her when she was a young girl, everybody said did you ever notice her father looks like donald trump, they showed me pictures. both tall, kind of blonde, always wearing suits, they're businessmen, salesmen, hard charging. everybody says about both of
them they have business in their veins, like the finer things in life. melania trump's father has an extensive collection of mercedes. he did quite well for himself even income nis times, had two houses, a mercedes. he, like donald trump, is litigious when it comes to his former lovers. we found that melania trump has a half brother that apparently she did not know about. her father had an affair with a woman before he met melania's mother, a child came out of that union. he fought, melania trump's father fought the mother of the child who sued for child support three months after the child was born, that he fought it to the highest appellate court in slovenia, trying not to pay the
child support fees. >> melania trump is not happy with that article. >> not at all. >> she reacted negatively. >> you have an article in the issue of foreign policy on his foreign policy speech yesterday. your bottom line? >> my bottom line is it is an eclectic array of ideas, many of which don't go together. you heard isolationist themes, that it is always america first, which as many pointed out is echo of charles lindbergh and people that said nazi germany wasn't that bad, we shouldn't fight them. you also heard we shouldn't confuse our oldest allies by making nice with our oldest adversaries, and in the next turn, said we should stick up to china. then he said let's cozy up to china and russia, strike an alliance. it was full of contradictions. if you zero things out, i am not
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down and bernie sanders concedes delegate math isn't necessarily adding up the way he would like. senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is here in "the situation room." what are you learning? >> wolf, it is clear one of the signs it is changing the corner, hillary clinton didn't air a single commercial anywhere in the country. she spent the last two days off the campaign trail at her home in chappaqua where i am told they had the more serious conversations about how to run against donald trump. hillary clinton, exhaling after one long fight, preparing for another. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: for the second straight day, she's off the campaign trail, taking a break, writing her game plan for fall. that plan revolves around entirely around donald trump. aides say the campaign is spending little other time on any other opponent. >> everything i say, folks, i do
it. >> reporter: her campaign releasing this video, offering an early look at their strategy. clinton playing up trump's greatest hits, closing with this message. stand together to stop donald trump. the writing is on the wall. with democratic delegates and superdelegates. clinton is 215 shy of crossing the threshold. sanders behind by nearly a thousand. the sanders campaign laying off hundreds of workers, downsizing from a thousand at the peak of success to about 300 now. sanders still rallying supporters today in oregon. >> this is one thing secretary clinton and i do agree on, we must not have a republican in the white house. >> reporter: the clinton campaign is already eyeing the general election battlegrounds, but trump says he'll fight hard in states like michigan and pennsylvania, long in the democratic column. >> i'll be encamped in michigan.
i think we can win it. >> reporter: democrats disagree, but clinton campaign is bracing for trump to use sanders' attack lines against her gl i am going to take things bernie said and using them. bernie had bad judgment. i said sound bite. >> reporter: sanders is pressing forward if not to win to influence the party's agenda. >> she's hard working, we just differ on ideas and solutions for the future. to demean her that way is just not acceptable. >> reporter: the question is how long senator sanders stays in the race. he pledges to take it to the democratic convention, but it is just that, a movement. the only senator to support him told my colleague on capitol hill it would be a mistake for sanders to stay in the race through the convention. wolf, he says the clinton model from 2008 is one sanders should
follow, drop out immediately after the final contest in early june. >> try to build up her support for general election. he has a lot of support. he has done well. if he can rally them behind her, that's a huge bonus. >> it would. that's what senator merck lee said. >> i think increasingly they're conceding it is unlikely he will get the nomination, but they want to influence the platform and party. >> no doubt. he said he should drop out to make it clear to democrats it is hillary clinton's turn. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very much. just ahead. the u.s. has an air strike on a hospital that kills dozens, including children. appears to be deliberate. what it means in the war against isis. and what if anything will be done to punish kim jong-un for another provocation.
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tonight, secretary of state, john kerry, is expressing outrage over an air strike in a children's hospital in syria. he says it appears to have been deliberate and he's suggesting the syrian government may be to blame. it's a dangerous factor the as the u.s. steps up its fight against isis and iraq. let's go to barbara starr. what are you learning? >> reporter: good evening, wolf. the focus is very much on targeted military action doing whatever it takes against isis to stop another brussels, another paris, or even an attack
here at home. vice president joe biden arrived in baghdad, as the u.s. is diagrramatically stepping up th fight against isis across the region. in aleppo, syria, distraught families after an air spike on strike on a pediatric hospital. no clarification who started the attack. key isis leaders, and assets that could be used as part of future attacks against the west. there is a new intelligence effort to go after isis in africa, especially in libya. the goal? >> to further develop the intelligence we would need to support operations in libya and throughout africa. we're also working closely with the french in west africa and with the coalition in east africa. >> reporter: there are now about 6,000 isis operatives in libya, just a few hours south of europe. the pentagon under orders from
the president to also go after the heart of isis in syria and iraq. >> we can no longer tolerate the kinds of positioning that is enabled by them having headquarters in raqqah and in mosul. >> reporter: the u.s. believes top isis leaders are hiding in both cities, plotting attacks. and still using those mid east bases of operations, trying to send operatives back into europe. in syria, the next target is raqqah, where isis has been using shades like this to hide movements from aircraft overhead. u.s. officials can't verify the photo, but say they have seen the shades for months, and it has had some impact on targeting air strikes. some say defense secretary ash carter's plan foremost you will, iraq, may be too optimistic. >> the thing we're focused on is
collecting and positioning before ramadan commences. the forces for the envelopment of mosul. >> reporter: the islamic hole month of ram tan just five weeks away. it may take more than 25,000 troops to liberate mosul, many who still need to be trained. the good news, the number of new foreign fighters in syria and iraq is down to about 200. a 90% drop on average from last year. some isis fighters are not getting paid, some even deserting u.s. officials say. one reason the u.s. continues to bomb, isis cache storage sites. in a strike against a cache site in mosul, for the first time the u.s. used a israeli tactic called a knock on the roof used to get civilians out of the way. seen here in gaza in 2014, first a missile is exploded on a roof. a warning to civilians to
escape. a minute later, a larger explosion destroys the target. and all of these u.s. military operations are going to have to be backed up with iraqi and local forces, and u.s. artillery, air power and hundreds of special forces now headed to the battlefield. wolf? >> barbara, thanks very much. barbara starr reporting. let's bring in chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto and elise labott. i guess with this intensified effort to go after isis, one of the key questions is, can the u.s. target those isis commanders if you will, that need to be in the words of u.s. officials, taken out? >> they can, and they are. with really remarkable and increasing success over the last several months. we have seen those strikes in sear and i can't iraq and even in libya and other countries where they're combining the intelligence and capability and taking them out. the trouble is, over the medium and long-term, that, of course,
affects the operations of the organization. in the short term, and perhaps even longer, the concern is, as you focus energy there, they're going to try to show their relevance and show strength by attacking overseas. and that's part of the driving force behind this increased effort in brussels, in paris and elsewhere. >> today we also learned that 16 u.s. military personnel will be disciplined because of that u.s. air strike on that doctors without borders facility in afghanistan last fall. that kind of stuff sometimes has an impact on morale. >> it, does certainly, on morale. you know the u.s. military makes enormous effort to avoid civilian casualties. the rules of engagement. some military say they're too restrictive because of this. but because the u.s. has a history, there have been mistakes, and there is an more enormous cost and now you have 16 soldiers being disciplined. and we see other efforts
adopting this israeli tactic as a knock on the roof. what u.s. commanders will say is no one makes more of an effort than we do. but these are big bombs being dropped, they're dangerous and civilians die. >> it's a war, and i'm sure that they try their best. but it's not by perfect, by any means. let's talk about north korea. you have been doing serious reporting. how worried are u.s. officials right now about the tests that kim jong-un's military keeps taking? >> well, they're very worried. i mean, you saw a barrage of missiles in the run up to next week's much anticipated workers, king jong union supposed to consolidate really trying to project a lot of military might. today you saw two intermediate range missiles fire. they get a lot of knowledge. they have had some other successes, launching a missile through a sub which they have
never done before. they also have these mobile launchers, which are more dangerous, because they're more spontaneous, they can launch a missile very quickly. so the u.s. seems almost rudderless to stop it. you had the toughest sanctions, only emboldening king jong union. the secretary of state trying to deny the regime revenue by going after remittances by north korean workers but it doesn't seem anything is going to stop kim jong-un. they are expecting a fifth nuclear test before this party conference and a very stern warning from the chinese president ping today, china will not accept war on the korean peninsula. i think it is a reflection of the concern this is spiralling out of concern. >> because trump and others say you really want to contain north korea, china, they have the influence, they have the capability to get the job done. will they do it? >> well, china looks at this
strategically and say they don't want a nuclear north korea but they want less, u.s. forces and u.s. ally on their border. they also don't want a big outflux of refugees, a collapse of the system. so in their world, that's a bigger danger than a nuclearized north korea. >> and also, i think their influence at this point is really limited. you have seen in recent months china get really angry, starting to implement sanctions. but it's only embolding the regime. relations at an all-time low right now. i think when everyone looks to china to do more, they have been taking steps in recent months and it doesn't seem to be making any difference. >> and they're embarrassed. >> if they do another nuclear test, they might be doing another -- that potentially could further exacerbate the tensions. >> no question. it's a drip, drip of progress. and you have what successive presidents have said they would allow. a nuclear north korea with missile technology that could hit the u.s. >> a very dangerous situation.
thanks very much. that's it for me. remember, you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me at wolf blitzer. tweet the show. we'll see you tomorrow right here in "the situation room." until then, thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, it is do or die in indiana. john boehner comparing ted cruz to the devil, and trump supporter, bobby knight, talking about dropping the a-bomb. everyone on fire tonight. plus, what carly fiorina said about ted cruz before she was his running mate. are voters buying their new-found friendship? and an exclusive interview with jeb bush. what he's saying about donald trump this evening. let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, it is down to the wire. donald trump on the attack tonight, working for every single vote in indiana. the front runner rallying thousands of supporters today,