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>> thank you. i'll see you. you can watch this tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. don't forget, sunday morning, tune in to "state of the union." my guests will include ted cruz and the top advisers to all five presidential campaigns. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to wolf blitzer. he's in "the situation room." have a great weekend. happening now, breaking news, protesting trump. a tense demonstration outside of a hotel where donald trump is addressing california's republican party. protesters knocking down barricades trying to storm the building just hours after bloody clashes at a trump rally. so why is the violent reaction to his campaign now escalating? tepid endorsement. four days before the indiana primary, the state's governor announces he's voting for ted cruz but his backing seems to lack enthusiasm and goes on to praise donald trump. will it have any impact on the primary outcome?
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at police. this follows violent protests outside a trump rally in southern california thursday night that resulted in injuries and arrests. inside, trump made light of the tense situation sparked by his appearance and i'm quoting it now, it felt like i was crossing the border. trump was addressing the republican convention and his delegate count has now topped, topped 1,000. that means the california primary just over a month from now could give him the delegates he needs to clinch the nomination out right. and there's more breaking news. new aggression by russian warplanes which just weeks ago came dangerously close to a u.s. navy ship in the balantic. a barrel roll was made over a u.s. air force plane in international air space. we're covering that with our guests, including scottie nell
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hughes and our correspondents and expert analysts are standing by. let's begin with cnn national correspondent jason carroll. he's inside the hotel near san francisco where donald trump just addressed the california republican convention. jason, now, what did he say about the protests outside and the violence at his rally last night? >> wolf, it was unexpected. donald trump opened up his speech at the luncheon poking fun of what was going on outside reminding him of what it must be like for an illegal immigrant to try and get inside the country. the comment was met by applause and also laughter but not by all attending the luncheon. protesters today trying to keep donald trump away from the california republican convention by blocking roads to the event. the gop front-runner's motorcade avoiding the demonstrators exiting his suv flanked by
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secret service through a back entrance. >> that was not the easiest entrance i've ever made. my wife called and said, there are helicopters following you and we did and then we went under a fence and through a fence. oh, boy, it felt like i was crowsi crossing the border, actually. it's true. i was crossing the border but i got here. >> reporter: the protests occurring a day after trump supporters clashed outside of his rally in costa mesa. a state in california could be divisive on june 7th to determine whether trump reaches the required 1237 delegates he needs to clinch the republican nomination. >> it's coming to an end. i think it's going to come to an end very soon and really -- and i speak to the people in this room because there has to be unity in our party. >> reporter: as trump courts supporting california, trump
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goes all in in indiana. cruz's request for a victory in the hoosier state getting a boost today with an endorsement from governor mike pence. >> i'm not against anybody but i will be voting for ted cruz in the upcoming republican primary. >> i have tremendous respect for governor mike pence. he has been an incredible leader for the state of indiana. >> reporter: pens also encouraged voters to make up their own minds and offered praise for trump. >> i particularly want to commend donald trump. >> reporter: and saying he'll back whoever emerges as the republican nominee. >> whoever wins the republican nomination for president of the united states, i'm going to work my heart out to get elected this fall. >> reporter: cruz is hoping that pens's support will help him with indiana voters after trump secured a key endorsement just days ago from legendary indiana basketball coach bobby knight. >> you folks are taking a look at the most prepared man in history to step in as president
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of the united states. that man right there. >> reporter: during his rally yesterday, trump stepped up his criticism of cruz. >> we have this guy, lying ted cruz. we know lying ted. i mean, nobody likes him. i've never seen a guy like this. >> and ramping up his attacks on democratic front-runner hillary clinton. >> you know, hillary -- hillary -- crooked hillary, right? she's crooked as you can be. crooked hillary. >> reporter: going further on twitter calling her perhaps the most dishonest person to have ever run for the presidency is also one of the all-time great enablers. that is as trump is dropping hints he may be targeting supporters of bernie sanders. dialing back his jabs at the vermont senator. so the question is, did he change any minds here, wolf?
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and that question is very much unanswered. one woman says she feels trump did what she needed to do, address the situation in the right way and feels that he's the right person to miss an opportunity here to unite the party. he said what he heard here today is more of lip service more than anything else. as you know, kasich is on tap later on tonight. cruz will have his turn tomorrow. wolf? >> jason carroll live for us in burlingame. sunlen serfaty is in indiana for us right now. sunlen, what is ted cruz saying about all of that? >> well, wolf, i asked senator cruz as all of this was unfolding across the country in california, i asked him here in indiana what he thought of it and he said that he had seen some but not all of the coverage and admitted that the coverage that he saw on tv, that the
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protests were getting really ugly, in his opinion and said that while they can protest, they called on a very specific way and pointed a finger to what he called left wing agitators who tried to up a muzzle the voices of others. here's, in part, what he had to say. >> the first amendment protects everyone's right to speak but you don't have a right to threaten violence. you don't have a right to shout down others and these protests appear to be using violence and threats and these are the strategies of the who try to violence a voice they don't like. if you disagree with a particular voice, the way to deal with it is with civil discourse. when i have protesters, that's how i deal with the protesters, not inciting violence or shooting people down but engaging in civil discourse. >> reporter: and senator cruz will head to that very same
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venue in california and head there with his new running mate carly fiorina and today he picked up the support of the indiana governor mike pence's support. he didn't come up with a full-flfull full-fledge endorsement if he does not perform well here in indiana. senator cruz saying that he will continue to campaign through the end but then he went on to add, as long as we have a viable path to victory. wolf? >> sunlen serfaty, thank you. i want to go to jeremy diamond who is outside the hotel in california where the protesters have demonstrated. jeremy, you saw this very tense situation firsthand. >> reporter: absolutely, wolf. it was a very hectic seen. 2 to 300 protesters gathered outside of this hotel where donald trump was set to address
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california republicans over here. the protesters were gathering and they were chanting and very, very loud making their message heard, trying to share this message that they believe donald trump represents this hatred and sort of a bigoted ideology and police officers ee two or three points today tried to rush the doors inside and come back and inside of this hotel and several times more and more protesters push forward against the police officers and to get into the building. they tried several different entrances and weren't able to get in, of course. the tensions turned more into a festive mood and chanting specifically against donald
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trump and chanting shut him down, of course. and protesters are still outside. police officers are still holding a line here, trying to keep the protesters back. >> i assume they come from various groups. and it doesn't seem like there's a specific organization that brought these protesters out here. a lot of them came from various fashions and he started his candidacy talking about undocumented immigrants from mexico, rapists and criminals and then some other protesters here have also been rallying against other things, like wall street and income inequality. we've seen a range of messages from the protesters but certainly a big focus here has been against donald trump, the man who spoke today to california republicans and that's the man that protesters here were protesting in the san
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francisco area. wolf? >> we did see donald trump take those extraordinary measures to get into the hotel and out of the hotel because of all of the protesters there. jeremy diamond, thanks very much. i want to get more on all of this, the dramatic developments unfolding, one of key supporters, scottie nell hughes, what else can he do because they seem to be escalating. you saw violent, angry protests in southern california and just saw what was happening near san francisco. >> both chicago and california are known for well-organized grassroots protests, whether you like the cause or not, a variety of political causes over the past few years, these folks know how to get them there. and california is especially in these areas. they have that network already set up on social media and they can sit there and mobilize folks like this.
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now, i doubt -- i would love to ask them about specific policies and points about mr. trump. all they've been told is that he is filled with hate and i think if they took a step back and listened to his policies, his ideas of actually going into these urban areas and offering economic development, also offering an organized immigration plan, i don't think you would see this type of -- this is all emotion here and it's really scary to those people that want to go hear a presidential candidate speak. >> and deport 11 million undocumented immigrants and pretty angry about that. >> our country, $19 trillion in debt, a health care system in bankruptcy as more and more health insurance companies are starting to lead the exchanges. we're seeing the education system that has no money to pay for citizens and you have angry americans right now as well as the system that's allowed this
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to happen. >> clearly it seems to be escalated. >> i agree. i think it had calmed down until you went into california. this shows the passion. i think mr. trump -- he's never encouraged violence or these types of activities going on. in fact, yesterday the picture of the trump supporter with the t-shirt and blood coming out of his head is extremely scary for me to see. that is their right to protest. >> a lot of people fear they could get that in cleveland at the republican convention in july, sort of reminiscent of the '68 democratic convention as a lot of us still remember. you're worried about that, aren't you? >> i am worried. my husband is a delegate to it and my whole family is going to be a part of the convention so i am worried about it but this talks about the idea of the responsibility of everybody
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involved. and we need to be talking about unity and calming these fears and how we can all work together and it's cleveland, ohio. and it's not near a major metropolitan -- i was there in new york when they had the big riots for the rnc. you have different protests that go along with these different conventions. i'm hoping ohio, because it's not centerally located, might have a harder chance for these troublemakers to get to. >> how much of a setback did donald trump suffer when the indiana governor, luke warm, endorsed ted cruz? >> was that an endorsement or just that i'm voting for him? he praised donald trump for his job creation, his ideas and said right now indiana is hurting. he praises immigration and several parts of it but i am voting for senator ted cruz however i will vote for whoever the nominee is. i think that was more future for governor -- for the governor
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we're following the breaking news, a large and very tense protests outside of a hotel in san francisco where donald trump was speaking at the california republican convention. he was forced to enter through a
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back entrance. trump was determined to get inside. he actually made it inside through a back door. we're back with trump supporter scottie nell hughes of usa radio networks. i want to play for you a clip. this is hillary clinton speaking to our jake tapper earlier today discussing what she calls trump's temper tantrums and bullying. >> i have a lot of experience of dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak. i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or bullying or efforts to try to provoke me. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i could really careless. >> she says she's not going to be provoked by donald trump if it become as general election campaign between her and trump. >> she also says she's not going to play the women card, wolf, and right there she said, i've dealt with men as well.
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she should have said, i have dealt with people before, constituents before. she's the one that continues to bring up a deflector right there. that's the reason this is happening. >> she says she wants to play a woman card, if you will, and says it specifically, equal pay for women, health care for women. all sorts of opportunities for women. what's wrong with that? >> there's nothing wrong with that. that's something that mr. trump wants, equal pay for equal work. let's make sure that we're comparing apples to apples and not apples to oranges. her actions don't necessarily take up -- >> she put out a video of the woman card showing how it degrades women in the public comments. you saw that? >> i did. it's a good video but the actions speak louder than words and people care about the economy and we're for the going to be manipulated.
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just like madeleine albright, there was a special place in hell for women who did not support other women. the gender card keeps being brought up by the clinton camp and surrogates and that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't believe in issues but they are all of our issues, not just one gender specific issue. >> he says she plays the gender card. she would have 5% support. you heard him say that the other day. >> she does have a great resume and she's obviously at the top of the tickets. the democrats feel she's very qualified. what other candidate would be under the investigation of the fbi and at the top of a ticket. i call her the clinton card because of the opportunity she's been given because of her last name. >> donald trump seems to be softening his comments about bernie sanders. there's been some suggestion that he's going to try to appeal to bernie sanders supporters who don't like hillary clinton and win their support. do you think that's realistic? >> i think it's very realistic.
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it's a smart message. if mr. sanders decides not to continue, we can tell he's edging out gracefully, something that the other republican nominees need to learn from. it's important to unify the party behind the front-runner and necessarily divide and go out with the sour notes, sour grapes seen coming out of senator cruz and governor kasich. >> we have a new republican national delegate estimate. 1237 is the number needed to win. donald trump, by our estimate, has gone over 1,000. he has 1002 delegates ready to vote for him in cleveland. ted cruz in second place with 572. you see john kasich with only 157 delegates ready to vote for him. so he needs, what, 235 delegates, which is doable. that's about 47% of the remaining delegates by our estimate right there. and you're convinced by california he will have done the job?
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>> i think if we stay on the track record that we're having, it's been a bad week for the cruz campaign. they've tried to steal the headlines and they've only come out for five minutes. now you see senator rubio saying it's good that we don't go into a brokered convention and loved by conservatives and he's now trying to warm up to the idea of a mr. trump presidency. you're seeing people like bob corker, senator bob corker did an excellent interview where he talked about trump's foreign policy plan and the parties in a brokered convention only helps the other side. >> scottie hughes, thank you for coming in. >> thank you, wolf. >> the breaking news continues with the very tense anti-trump protests. how will it impact his campaign? plus, an american citizen's north korea nightmare. sentenced to ten years of hard labor by the kim jong-un regime.
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breaking news this hour, anti-trump protesters breaking through barricades and trying to storm a hotel near san francisco where donald trump was addressing california republicans. he was forced to make a back entrance and called the protests both fun and different. let's talk about that and more with cnn political commentator s.e. cupp. our chief political analyst gloria borger and david chalian and jeff zeleny. gloria, what's driving these protests and do you expect to see more and more of them? >> yeah. these are people that don't like
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donald trump. it may be a combination of folks, some bernie sanders supporters in there, some people that may not like his immigration policy. it's probably a whole group. i don't think we know exactly who they are and i think this is what politics is about. people are allowed to protest. this is what this country is founded on. what people don't like is violence and we don't like it when we see the windows of police cars broken. ait's a question of whether this continues and whether it continues to get worse and whether people protesting understand that this doesn't do their cause any good. >> these are live pictures, you see the police lined up and some protesters still there outside that hotel. they are not gone yet. there were obviously hundreds of them earlier. they are still there right now. david, it's interesting. they block the road. you saw that video of trump having to go through a back
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door, climb up, climb down, surrounded by secret service personnel and sort of joked about it at the top of his speech. listen to this. >> this was not the easiest entrance i've ever made. my wife called and said there are helicopters following you. it felt like i was crossing the border, actually. >> i'm sure some of those secret service personnel said, maybe you might want to consider canceling this event but donald trump, he was determined to go through and speak to that republican convention. >> yeah. that kind of an entrance is a nightmare for the secret service. but listen, this is a little bit different, what we're seeing today. >> look at these live pictures. you can see what's going on right now, some continuing scuffles. go ahead. >> i think this is different than what we saw earlier in the campaign, protests at his own rallies, even last night in costa mesa.
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this is a california republican convention. this is welcome to the general election donald trump because these protesters are -- this is the opposition to what trump is going to find in a general electorate kind of audience and i think that there is now going to be a challenge because the democrats are going to want to harness these people's energy and into a positive for her campaign rather than a negative opposition for the trump campaign. you remember, president obama had that famous expression in 2012. don't vote. boo. don't boo. vote. hillary clinton is going to have to figure out how to get these folks, don't be violent. >> don't punch. >> don't punch but vote. that's going to be a challenge. >> are we in -- this is what we're in store for as the weeks continue, s.e.? >> uh-huh. yes. you know, trump promised or warned of violence at a convention. i would argue that there will
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probably be some of that even if it's not, even if he clinches it. whomever you blame for this, he is, without a doubt, an incredible divisive political figure. i've covered the obama campaign. i've covered george bush's campaign. those are divisive presidents. i say that this is on par with some of what i saw during those campaigns, if not worse. and i think it's probably likely to get worse before it gets better and if it gets better, it will be because hillary clinton and bernie sanders have figured out how to tamp this down. now, they won't be responsible for trump's supporters' behavior and i expect them to be just as vocal and maybe violent as well. who knows. >> you saw some protesters being escorted out, arrested, if you will, and presumably for engaging in some violent activity. i've heard different analysis, jeff. is this going to be good for trump's campaign politically, the protests? will it rally his base or hurt him? >> i don't think we know yet
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because we don't know how violent they are going to be. nobody likes violent protests and there's a risk for democrats when trump supporters watched this on television, they become energized and want to sort of protect mr. trump. that's their kind of central theme here. it's not good for him in a sense of a voter out there who may be on the fence about a trump presidency. this is not something they would want to see should he be elected, this kind of thing going on. let's keep in mind our geography here. we're in california, a blue state. i think it will continue and donald trump is campaigning in big cities and when he's campaigning in some swing states, maybe in pennsylvania and other places, not every state in the country is going to have protests like this. not everybody is going to have news helicopters. >> this is outside of san francisco. >> right. >> hold your thoughts for a moment. these are live pictures. you can see the demonstrators are still there. just saw a couple of arrests going on. we're staying on top of this and
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exclusive interview with cnn's jake tapper. she took aim at the general election and donald trump. let's bring in brianna keilar. tell us more about the attack lines and strategies emerging from the clinton campaign. >> wolf, it's all about the general election. hillary clinton in this interview with jake took aim at donald trump. that was her primary goal and she wouldn't go as far as saying that she considers herself the presumptive democratic nominee but she clearly thinks it's not far off. >> do you consider yourself the presumptive nominee? >> no. i consider myself as someone on the path and obviously i'm very far ahead in both the popular and delegate count so i think it leads to the nomination so i'm going to keep competing in the elections up ahead of us. >> reporter: so is bernie sanders, campaigning in indiana today even as he significantly downsizes his campaign staff. hillary clinton congratulated the vermont senator on engaging
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new voters but warned him not to drag out the primary fight. >> there comes a time when you have to look at the reality. in fact, in '08, i was much closer in both popular votes and delegate votes than is the case right now. i just decided that i had to withdraw and support senator obama because the goal was to make sure we had a democratic in the white house. >> reporter: asked about which of sanders policies she might adopt, clinton pivoted immediately to the general election. >> well, we're going to talk and work together. we want the same goals. we both want to raise the minimum wage, the republicans led by donald trump don't want to. we both don't want to get to universal health care coverage. we both want to deal with climate change, something that they have denied. >> reporter: her campaign seized on this comment by donald trump. >> the only card that she has is the woman's card. >> reporter: now they are sending this, the official
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hillary for america woman card. >> if playing the woman's card means standing up for the earn cans that women have, deal me in. >> reporter: clinton is hitting trump on foreign policy. two days after his speech on international affairs. >> i found it disturbing and i don't think loose talks about loose nukes, i don't think turning our backs on our strongest allies, pretending that you have some sort of secret plan is a very smart way to go forward in leading the world. >> reporter: recently, trump has taken to calling her this. >> crooked hillary clinton. crooked hillary. crooked hillary. >> crooked hillary, right? she's crooked as you can be. >> reporter: clinton dismissed the suggestion that it might stick. >> sometimes they get off the reservation in the way that they behave and how they speak. i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or their efforts to try
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to provoke me. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i could really careless. i'm going to stand up for what i think the american people need and want in the next president. >> reporter: now, jake asked clinton if she thinks donald trump is qualified to be president and she said the voters will have to decide and dismissed the notion that trump will successfully appeal to sanders supporters has trump is suggesting he may make a play for them. >> brianna, thank you. we have other breaking news. stand by for new details of a provocation by a russian fighter jet. also, kim jong-un north korea sentences another american to years of hard labor in prison.
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we're following two breaking stories right now. moments ago we saw police arrest at least one demonstrator as protests continue outside the san francisco area hotel where donald trump gave a speech just a little while ago. we'll stay on top of that story but also breaking right now, an ominous new provocation as russia tests the united states military's resolve. what are we learning about this close encounter? >> when you hear the details about this, this is truly an alarming maneuver. this is a russian fighter jet that did a barrel roll of a reconnaissance plane flying in international waters over the baltic sea. it came within 25 feet of the plane's wing tip and then flipped over the top of it. the barrel roll to the other side. this is a second time in two
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weeks that a russian jet has done this to a u.s. reconnaissance plane in the area and it came a couple weeks after this what we're seeing here when a russian jet came within 25 feet as well or 50 feet, i should say, of the "uss donald cook" in the black sea. it's become a consistent pattern and the u.s. calls it not only unprofessional but truly dangerous. when i speak to u.s. officials, they are generally worried that at some point one of these are going to get too close, you could have an accident and lead to something more serious. >> disaster in thedecision by t prevent the u.s. aircraft carrier making a -- >> it was going to make a routine visit to hong kong, which is now controlled by china, but that request denied. the timing of this is extremely
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interesting. the stenis was in the south china sea where they're building man-made islands. the u.s. opposes this very much. that visit by not only the stenis and defense secretary to the south china sea, wolf, was intended to be a message. you're not going on a limb to say china is sending a message by denying the ship. while that was denied, another ship the blue ridge is in a hong kong port. interesting the stenis in the south china sea is not. >> usually routine visits aren't routine any more. thanks very much. new details coming into "the situation room" about another provocation by north korea where a court sentenced a u.s. citizen to hard labor. brian todd is joining us with more on what the individual is accused of doing. >> it is kim dong chu.
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he is accused of stealing military secrets from kim jong-un regime. this means he holds two americans in his notorious labor camps. u.s. officials telling us they're troubled by the development. his trial lasted one day, in pyongyang that was enough to land this citizen a ten year sentence of hard labor. his alleged crime, spying for south korea. he confessed to taking pictures of north korean military secrets. >> translator: i have fallen victim to south korea and committed an in dell believe crime. >> south korean intelligence denies involvement. it is not sure if the confession was made in duress. he wiped away tears like another american did recently. >> save this innocent scapegoat.
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>> reporter: one was given 15 years of hard labor for pulling down a political banner in a hotel. what signal is he send to go the west holding two americans? >> one, they have a legal system that needs to be respected by foreigners. two, that they have the power to detain. it's possible he's reaching for some way to reach the united states, but if that's the case, that is a weak signal because the u.s. is not necessarily going to respond in kind. >> reporter: state department officials call the sentence troubling, they say they're taking it seriously but are otherwise tight lipped. they say those and other westerners are given three meals a day, held in better conditions than north korean prisoners and kept entirely separate. why? >> these americans could leave, come home to the united states and describe the horrific conditions in the north korean
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prisons and the north korean regime doesn't want north korean prisoners deal with, interact with americans or westerners, they could get contaminated by the west. >> reporter: this comes as tension on the korean peninsula remains at a boil. activist floated balloons full of propaganda against kim jong-un. kim's nuclear and missile testing and bloody purges of top officials have been relentless. >> fear and terror are instruments by which he can come into power and keep his power. he must pit all of the elites against each other, make them feel insecure, make them fearful of their lives to keep them in line. >> reporter: kim is likely getting ready for more purges as he gears up for a massive display of his power. on may 6th, they say he will likely continue the campaign of
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shifting more power away from the north korean military and over to the communist party. north korea's top generals, wolf, are likely very nervous tonight. >> what's the likelihood, brian, that either of the two americans will be released any time soon? >> reporter: kim's regime likes to use them as bargaining chips to get someone high profile to pick them up, like bill clinton, jimmy carter, bill richardson. given the tension recently, some say kim jong-un is really right now in no mood to make a deal for the men. they could be there for some time. >> thank you. protesters try to block donald trump from giving a speech, he says it was like, quote, crossing the border.
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happening now. breaking news. protests, violence, demonstrators confront police. an assault before a speech by the frontrunner in california. we are live at the scene of chaos and flashes, amid growing concerns about possible unrest at the republican national convention in cleveland. lukewarm support. ted cruz wins the backing of indiana's governor, who also had nice things to say about donald trump. will the endorsement matter days before the state's make or break primary. i ask a top cruz supporter in congress. the woman card. hillary clinton is raising campaign cash off trump's newest attack against her. tonight, the likely democratic nominee is revealing her anti-trump strategy in an exclusive interview with cnn. aggressive moves. once again, a russian jet has
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come intentionally close with a u.s. plane. is vladimir putin trying to send a provocative message? welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i am wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." breaking news this hour. a heated protest against donald trump in california. concerns about violence are once again hanging over his campaign after a trump supporter was assaulted. tensions also erupting as demonstrators storm to efforts for the republican convention. the frontrunner avoided the crowd, going through a fence and back door to give a speech. trump appealing to republicans in one of the last, biggest primary states four days before another crucial contest in
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indiana. tonight a new milestone for donald trump as he gets closer to reaching the 1237 delegate total needed to clinch the nomination. he now has more than 1,000 delegates. 1002 by cnn's estimate. we have analysts and news makers standing by as we cover this breaking story. sunlen serfaty has the latest on the republican race. >> reporter: ted cruz here in indiana is facing questions about his own path forward. tonight donald trump is facing large and aggressive groups of protesters in california for the second night in a row. tonight tensions rising in california. a large group of demonstrators flooding streets outside the california republican convention, protesting donald trump's appearance. >> that was not the easiest entrance i've ever made.
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>> reporter: the frontrunner's motorcade dodging the crowds trump forced to enter and exit on foot to avoid protesters. >> we went under a fence, through a fence. boy, felt like i was crossing the border. >> reporter: the protests occurring a day after hundreds of demonstrators clashed with trump supporters outside his rally rally. this is one of the last primary states on june 7th that could play a decisive role in delivering trump the 1237 delegates he needs to secure the nomination. >> we have far more votes than anybody else, far more delegates than anybody else, and we're going to hit that number i think quite easily. >> reporter: trump focuses on closing the race in california, ted cruz is slog ging it out.
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he is trying to push the race toward a contested convention and the senator is pulling out all the stops. >> i think governor mike pence is an optimistic, positive, unifying force. >> reporter: cruz getting support of indiana governor mike pence. >> i am not against anybody, but i will be voting for ted cruz. >> reporter: his endorsement lukewarm. >> whoever wins the republican nomination for president of the united states, i am going to work my heart out to get elected this fall. >> reporter: offering plenty of praise for trump. >> i particularly want to commend donald trump who i think has given voice to the frustration of millions of americans. >> reporter: trump hoped for the endorsement of pence. >> i met with him. he may not endorse. i don't think he'll endorse
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anybody actually, and he may endorse us. >> reporter: not enough for cruz. >> have we branded this guy or what? he probably -- i see him walking into these beautiful gardens in washington, guy said hey, lying ted, how you doing. >> reporter: saving the fiercest fire for hillary clinton, focusing attacks on his general election rival. >> crooked hillary, she said very strongly i don't like the tone of donald trump. the tone. now, she is there shouting all night, reading off teleprompters. >> reporter: taunting her on twitter and calling her the most dishonest person to have ever run for the presidency is also one of the all time great enablers. >> i want to beat her more than sanders. >> reporter: donald trump today crossed a symbolic line in terms
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of delegates based on cnn delegate estimate, donald trump now has 1002 delegates with some additional results from last week's primary, and donald trump is taking to twitter to tout the results saying that he will win on the first ballot in cleveland. wolf? >> sunlen serfaty. thanks. more in california, the large protest that developed there last night and today against donald trump. reporter jeremy diamond is on the ground. you saw it up close, jeremy. what was it like? >> reporter: well, a chaotic scene here today, wolf. we had several hundred protesters, 300 protesters who gathered here, spilled into the streets and at one point, at two points, actually, tried to storm the barricades, tried to storm the hotel to get in. you have them cross-over the barricades, get past the line that police had initially set up. police officers then pushed them back. you had a couple dozen protesters initially, then more
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followed. police officers were pushing them back. here they were cladding riot gear, using batons to push them back where they were trying to get into the hotel where he addressed california republicans. his message here is very different. he was talking unity, unifying the republican party, and protesters here were focusing on rhetoric that donald trump has used throughout his presidential campaign, focusing specifically on rhetoric on illegal immigration. donald trump started his presidential campaign talking about undocumented mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists, so that has continued to rile protesters up as they're continuing to protest the message. not unusual to have protest at donald trump events, but certainly here speaking in a liberal area, san francisco bay area, donald trump was met with several hundred protesters that came here. police officers need one arrest, we were told by burlingame police department, and there was one injury today.
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wolf? >> how organized were protests, jeremy? >> they were pretty organized. they did not come from any particular group, but when they got here, they got together. you had protesters sitting in the middle of the road on both sides of this hotel here blocking donald trump's motorcade from coming through, and then you also had them essentially charging together at the police line trying to get into the hotel. they were not successful, but police had to on one entrance put handcuffs on doors to prevent the protesters from getting inside. donald trump left the building, protesters continued to protest, but now that donald trump is gone, the protesters have also essentially dissipated. police opened up the road here and everything is returning to normal. >> jeremy diamond on the scene. anything but normal awhile ago. thank you very much. joining us, one of ted cruz's supporters in congress, representative raul labrador
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from idaho. thanks for joining us. what do you make of angry protests last night and today in california at the republican party convention in california, over there. what, if anything, could senator cruz do to tone things do you know him self? >> i don't know if you noticed when senator cruz has a protester in his audience, he tries to address them, tries to talk to them and he tries to bring down the level of the rhetoric. and i think he has been very successful doing that. however, we need to be clear these people that are protesting are trying to stop free speech because it is not that they're protesting donald trump, they're trying to prevent him from speaking, and that's totally unacceptable and unamerican. i think we need to make sure as you're talking about protesters, you know, we all disagree with the rhetoric that donald trump has, but what these people are trying to do is prevent him from speaking, and that's completely
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unacceptable. >> protesting is free speech obviously, but what you mean, when it gets violent, that's when it goes over the line. is that right? >> absolutely, when it gets violent or they try to stop his car, try to prevent him coming into the building, that's just not acceptable in our society, and this is very organized. i heard the reporter say it wasn't organized by any one group. this is clearly organized, they know your cameras are going to be there, they know the media will be there in droves, there will be large crowds, and this is very clearly organized to disrupt society. these same people are trying to disrupt america in many other ways. i think we should not stand for that. >> who do you think, congressman, is organizing the protests? >> well, i don't have -- it is clear that they're coming together at a time when unions try to get after the republican party, when there's many hispanic american groups trying to get after the republican party. they're trying to make them send
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a message. and that's nine. send a message. but do not interfere with free speech as you're sending that message. >> how worried are you, congressman, that the protests could escalate and even be larger in cleveland in july. >> protests will be large. i have been to the last two or three conventions, we always have very good security at both the republican and democratic conventions. and there's always protesters at all of the conventions. i think things should be okay, but i also think it is important for the police to do their job, as they're doing a good job in california now, and to make sure the right of free speech that they have, that it doesn't go beyond the pale where they're actually interfering with other people's rights to free speech. >> as you know, the indiana governor mike pence said he would be voting for senator cruz tuesday in the indiana republican primary but didn't offer what he called an official endorsement. he also had very nice words to say about donald trump. what did you think of the way he
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handled it? >> i think he is a classy guy. i heard you say in the last ten minutes this was lukewarm. this was just mike pence. mike pence is the nicest gentleman you can probably meet in politics. i'm sure you met him, wolf. he is the nicest person. that's the way he speaks, that's the way he approaches every single issue. he is never going to say anything negative about anybody else. i never heard him say anything negative about anybody else. and he said something that's really clear. he's not against anybody. i wish we had more people in the republican party that would do that. i don't like this never trump mess that we keep hearing about. i'm for ted cruz because i think ted cruz is the best candidate, the best person who can unify republican party so we can defeat hillary clinton. he is the best prepared, he has the best plans, he has the best ideas. that's why i am for ted cruz. i really like that about what
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mike pence was saying. >> if cruz loses to trump and trump is the republican nominee, will you be all out for trump? >> it will be hard to be all out for him, but i'm going to support the republican nominee. there's a lot of things he says that do not comport with what i think the republican party believes, he still will be better than hillary clinton because anybody will be better than hillary clinton. she's ill prepared for these times, she is not the right person to be leading this nation. so i'm going to do what i can to make sure a republican wins. i'm going to be a lot more enthusiastic about ted cruz because he is clearly prepared and clearly qualified to take on the issues that we are dealing with in the united states. in fact, he has been doing it in washington, d.c. that's why you have people like john boehner coming after him because he is not part of the establishment, he is not doing the things that john boehner and other republicans in washington want to do, which is cut deals
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in back rooms and make sure that everything goes according to what the big donors want. he wants to do what the american people want him to do. >> congressman, there's a lot more to discuss including the latest delegate counts, the popular vote, why donald trump is ahead of ted cruz by millions of votes. we will assess that. what happens next. much more when we come back. i've just arrived in atlanta and i can't wait to start telling people how switching to geico could save them hundreds of dollars on car insurance. but first, my luggage. ahh, there it is. uh, excuse me, sir? i think you've got the wrong bag. sorry, they all look alike, you know? no worries.
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raul labrador is from idaho. congressman, i will put the numbers on the screen. by our estimate, trump has 1002, cruz 572, kasich 157. you need 1237 to clinch the nomination. that means he needs 235 more delegates. there are 502 left out there, 47% is what trump needs. looks like he is in strong position, doesn't he? >> he is in a strong position, but he still needs to get 1237. those are the rules. and not only that, that shows that you need to get the majority of the republican party. in order to get that many delegates, he has only won about 40 to 42% of the vote so far. there's been about 60% of the republicans that voted against him. and i think that's why we have the rules. the majority of delegates need to be reached by the time of convention. >> cruz has done a lot worse so far. look at the raw vote as far as
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popular vote and 40 caucuses trump is at 10 million, cruz at 6 million, and kasich only 3 million. you have a lot of republicans out there who want trump to be the nominee. >> you do. but you also have a lot of republicans that want somebody else. it is pretty simple, wolf. let's say that, for example, donald trump got together with marco rubio and their delegates got together, want to bring him over the top on second ballot, there would be nothing wrong with that. that would be a good alliance. there's nothing wrong with ted cruz trying to make alliances with other people. i think that's what's going to happen. you're going to see more people making alliances with ted cruz because more people want a ted cruz or more people want somebody other than donald trump and i think that's going to happen. if donald trump can make
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alinesaline alliances to get that on second ballot, he will be the nominee. that's why we need to go to the convention, follow the rules, do the things that are necessary to get somebody who will be supportive by the majority of the party. >> if cruz loses next tuesday in indiana, should he drop out? >> you know, i am not going to tell him to drop out, but if he loses, it is clear it will be much more difficult. you saw the latest polling, he is only a couple points behind. as we have seen through the campaign, the ground game that ted cruz has is better than the ground game donald trump has. donald trump relies mostly on media, on you guys to do his advertising for him. treads is on the ground working hard. i think you're going to see a big victory tuesday. >> donald trump works pretty hard, going state to state, rally to rally. he hasn't exactly been playing golf all this time, right?
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>> no, he has not. his rallies are very good. he does a good job with the rallies. >> one of the things he also does, he is willing to sit for tv interviews with almost anyone, which is a lot more, does more, says yes more than cruz or kasich or other candidates for that matter as well. >> i actually think that's something that every republican candidate should look to. there are some things to learn from. one is being as accessible to media as possible. that's been good for donald trump, helped him tremendously. the other thing is that when you get attacked, you need to attack back, you need to go back at people attacking you. i always think republicans in washington, d.c. are too scared of the media, too scared of being attacked. you need to lean forward on the issues you believe in. those are two things every republican candidate could learn from donald trump.
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i think it is something that helped him. >> i want to play a clip former house speaker john boehner had strong words to say about ted cruz. i will play the clip, then i want your reaction. >> ted cruz? >> lucifer in the flesh. i have democratic and republican friends, i get along with almost everybody. i never worked with a more miserable son of a [bleep] in my life. >> what do you make of that? >> that was probably the unclassiest thing i've seen somebody do in politics. in fact, it's not surprising to me. i've been pretty good at trying to not attack john boehner on a personal basis, even though i thought he was probably the worst speaker of the house in history. he was a terrible leader. now i think gloves are off.
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it is shameful he would say such a thing about ted cruz, and it just shows you that people like john boehner in washington, d.c. would rather work with hillary clinton, they would rather work with donald trump than work with conservatives. those things he is saying about ted cruz are the things john boehner has said about conservatives in washington, d.c. for the last five years. he hates us. he hates people who disagree with him and he hates people that do not help him just have a good afternoon with his wine and his golf club. what he wants to do is have an easy life. he wanted to have that the last five years and we didn't make life easy on him, we made life difficult. he wasn't keeping promises made our constituents. that's the main reason he is not the speaker of the house now, and it is the main reason that he was such a failure as speaker. it is sad to see a man do that in his later years. he should have kept his comments
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to himself instead of saying something like that. >> next time, congressman, tell us how you really feel about the former speaker of the house. raul labrador from idaho. thanks for joining us. >> thank you very much. more on the protests on donald trump in california. we are monitoring the situation. first on cnn. another taunt by a russian war plane aimed at the u.s. military. we will tell you what we are learning when we come back.
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we are back with breaking news out of california. protesters confronting police after trying to storm a hotel where donald trump was delivering a speech awhile ago. it is all playing out in california, one of the last and biggest primary battlegrounds. bring in the panel, ana navarro, mark preston, cnn politics senior digital correspondent chris moody, republican strategist, cnn political commentator kevin madden. is this a prelude, mark, to what can happen, the protests at the republican convention in cleveland? >> yes. i have to tell you in many ways, republicans not only want to get that nomination fight behind them, if you're a donald trump supporter, i think republicans would be lucky to get this fight behind them. what they don't want to happen in cleveland, they don't want the liberal protesters clashing with trump protesters that think
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the nomination is being stolen from donald trump, clashing with the republican establishment protesters outside. listen, i think cleveland will be messy no matter what happens, if donald trump gets the nomination clean, i think it will be a little calmer than what could be a real problem. >> what else, if anything, can the republican party, leadership do to tap things down? >> first of all, look at the images we've just seen, those are immigration protesters against donald trump. so people that are sparking the violence are not republicans. i think what the republican party, what they're doing now is trying to get the candidates understand there's a lot of anger out there, that candidates have to go speak to a lot of anger and frustration that they have and offer solutions to address some of the concerns orange sites that they have about all of the things driving that anxiety. the big thing they have to do is
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get the party ready for a general election and as mark was alluding to, at the convention, try to have unifying of candidates and issues. >> ana, what do you think can be done to cooling down the atmosphere? >> meditation, breathing exercises, anger management courses. wolf, the bottom line, we are a polarized nation. it has stoked the flames, everybody speaking on behalf of a candidates to tap down rhetoric. realize it is getting ugly. these are images out of venezuela or cuba, these are not images we are used to seeing in the united states. yes, protesting is allowed and part of the process, but it is getting too nasty too early, and
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it is going to go on for awhile. i think some of the protesters are agitators, there's more that leadership can do, elected officials, surrogates, even in the media that we can do to make sure to tap down rhetoric and call for a national debate, but not this kind of throwing eggs at police. that's where you lose a lot of the american public. >> you had a fascinating interview, chris, with donald trump's social media director, and he spoke about how trump reacts when he's attacked. let me play this clip. >> he dishes it out. >> well, he sure does. and only if the opposing end deserves it, you know. note in the campaign during the whole cycle, he never attacked anybody. >> what? >> he never attacked anybody in the sense of where he started. it was always the opposing
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campaign throwing punches at donald trump. and if you're going to throw punches at donald trump as we learned for the past ten months, be prepared, be prepared because not only does it get him fired up, it fires up everybody around him, the campaign, his kids, the organization, especially when some of the things people are throwing his way are not accurate, not true. no, he definitely throws it out, i'm not denying that at all, as we've seen the past ten months. in my opinion, from the outside looking in, just ugly. some of the stuff they said. >> you don't think trump's response made things worse or uglier? >> it has in some cases but you know what, mr. trump stands up for what he believes in. zbll dan scavino, fascinating guy in his own right. >> little about his background,
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he started with trump by happen stance, 16 years old, cleaning golf clubs. donald trump rolled up to see if he wanted to buy the club and he caddied for him. this is a perfect example of a true trump supporters. he is with him no matter what. i asked him is there anything mr. trump would say that would lead you to leave him? he said no, there's nothing. also he leads the social media part of his campaign which is the tip of the speer. >> trump is active. he tweets, has millions of followers. >> it is successful and controversial. donald trump has a history of retweeting supporters, just about every night. some of them voiced support for white nationalist movements. i asked him about that as well. he said well, trump doesn't look at who he's tweeting.
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i said one the name was white genocide in the title. why did he retweet it. >> he was made aware of it, knows about it now. he didn't necessarily apologize for retweeting the supporters. >> let's knit everything we talked together into one tight ball here in going to what ana is saying. there's a snowball effect when you have this passion in politics. unless the temperature is turned down, it is going to keep rolling and get bigger and bigger and bigger. we have seen that at some rallies, unless donald trump takes responsibility and tries to tone it down at some rallies, tries to give direction to supporters, there's potential for it to get worse. >> no question. >> i don't think that's going to happen. for donald trump, a substance free campaign, a campaign more driven by emotion is where he wants to be. god forbid he has to talk issues. he doesn't have command and control of the issues.
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the interview that chris did with his social media guru was emblematic of the organization he has. there was zero consistency in what he says. first said he doesn't dish it out, then he does. and then said it does lead to anger. i think that's why donald trump is going to continue to have a campaign trying to feed off this anger rather than tap it down. >> what did you think of the mike pence lukewarm endorsement of ted cruz, the indiana governor, praising donald trump saying he likes them all, likes all three republican candidates but will vote for ted cruz? >> wolf, i have seen endorse brussel sprouts with more enthusiasm than he endorsed ted cruz. in some ways it hurts. it drew attention to what is happening with a lot of republicans which is that they recognize the anger, the
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frustration that is fueling trump voters and trump supporters, don't want to antagonize. remember, mike pence is up for re-election, at the same time don't want to support donald trump, so they're caught in a kind of funky gray area, don't want to take a black or white position. they want to straddle the fence. and it doesn't look pretty, particularly doesn't look pretty when you're the governor of a state and you have a primary election a few days away. if you're going to come out, make an announcement, for god's sakes, make an announcement that it is worth covering. i think you do yourself harm and do the candidate you try to help harm when you look wishy washy. >> endorsement of trump by bobby knight, that was a real endorsement. also, what happens if trump wins indiana? >> what you have in the republican party, the party split into two camps, the
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resignation camp and resistance camp. the resignation camp, those more resigned to the fact that donald trump will be the nominee, i think that continues to grow, and you'll see a little more of -- you'll see them continue to outnumber the resistance camp. more folks will try to socialize themselves to the idea that he'll be the nominee by the time we get to cleveland. >> one quick question before i let you go. >> there's also a third camp. >> hold on a second, ana. marco rubio on a radio interview said some relatively nice things about donald trump today. is there something in the works here? ana, can you hear me? >> yes. look, i think when you say relatively nice things, that's the correct term. relatively positive things, they're far from being actual positive things. i think it goes to the point that kevin made, there's a
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resignation camp and also acknowledgment camp acknowledging what voters are seeing in donald trump, but i would argue to kevin's point, i would add in addition to there being a resignation camp and resistance camp, there's a camp that's both getting resigned to the idea that trump could be the nominee, might be, will be the nominee, but at the same time willing to resist it and fight against it until our last breath, until the man reaches 1237 delegates. that's the camp i fall into, i think there are a lot of other people in that camp. i think that's where marco rubio is. >> stand by. there's more coming into "the situation room." new developments, hillary clinton clearly looking ahead to a race with donald trump. we will have that and more when we come back.
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we are back with our political team. hillary clinton is offering a preview of strategy against donald trump in an exclusive interview with jake tapper. she's making it clearer than ever, she's preparing for a likely fall faceoff with donald trump and that could be brutal. jeff zeleny is joining me. jeff, hillary clinton says she is not letting trump provoke her. >> quite the opposite. her campaign hopes to use his words against him, fire up democrats. it is clear in her interview she's taking the high road, presenting as a mature, steady
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leader. she said she knows what bernie sanders is going through as his presidential ambitions fade. she said there's a time you have to look at reality. >> i have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak. >> reporter: hillary clinton is talking about donald trump. >> i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or efforts to try to provoke me. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i could really care less. >> reporter: speaking to jake tapper in her first interview before all but ceiling the democratic nomination, clinton offered a look into her plan to take on trump. >> if you are demeaning women, you don't believe equal pay is an issue, you are really insulting to women, i don't see how that adds up either. >> reporter: the back and forth between trump and clinton over taking the presidential race.
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>> if hillary clinton were a man, i don't think she had get 5% of the vote. >> reporter: the clinton campaign is trying to turn his attack against him, offering donors an actual woman card. today clinton is taking the high road. >> we're going to talk about what to do for the country. he can continue on the insult fest, but that's the choice he is making. >> reporter: today in california, trump making that choice again. >> when i can focus on hillary, as i say, crooked hillary, when i focus on hillary, she will go down easier than any of the people we just beat. >> reporter: while trump calls himself the republican presumptive nominee, clinton won't go there yet. >> i consider myself as someone on the acrimony from only two weeks ago has faded. >> i am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you
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supported raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. >> now, wait a minute, wait a minute. >> at least from clinton's point of view. >> i was pleased when senator sanders said the other day he is going to work tirelessly seven days a week to make sure trump is not president. >> sanders is saying a little more than that. >> we need a 50-state strategy. we need to plant the flag of progressive politics in every state in this country. >> it's a feeling clinton well remembers when a presidential bid dies. she says she is not worried about unifying the party. >> i think when i dropped out the polling was at 40% of my supporters said they would not support senator obama, thankfully, the vast majority of them did. so this is a natural kind of a process that i think will play itself out. >> but unifying the democratic
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party may be more complicated than she remembers from eight years ago. sanders has spent his year as an independent, and many of his supporters are independents, too. but trump's own words from the rally today could be the ultimate unifier for democrats. >> all right, thank you, jeff, meanwhile, be sure to join us for our coverage of the white house associate dinner 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. we have other breaking news coming into the "the situation room" right now. we're learning more about a provocative move by russia. let's go to our correspondent, barbara starr, what are you learning. >> well, an encounter between the u.s. and russian military. the reconnaissance plane flying in international air space over the baltic when a russian
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fighter jet approached and executed a barrel roll over the plane. that of course means the russians at high speed, they came within 25 feet of the american aircraft, inverted, came down the other side. a very dangerous move. up to 25 u.s. service members on board that rc-135. it's the second barrel roll within the month, and earlier this month, an incident with a russian aircraft flying. we have the video to show you just within a few feet of another u.s. navy war ship. what is going on is the big question right now. why are the russians doing all of this. the pentagon looking at this wondering is this at the orders of vladimir putin in moscow to engage in this very dangerous behavior? or are these russian pilots on their own out there hotdogging? either way look for the u.s. to
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protest this latest move to moscow. >> yes, i'm sure they will, as you point out it is very, very dangerous as you point out. if there is one tiny mistake there could be a huge mistake and there could be some people who die. all right, barbara, thank you very much. much more news coming up right after this. happ. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness. and believing a single life can be made better by millions of others. as a health services and innovation company optum powers modern healthcare by connecting every part of it. so while the world keeps searching for healthier we're here to make healthier happen.
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left unsaid. really a remarkable look at gloria vanderbilt and her son, cnn's anderson cooper is joining us right now. anderson, let's talk about the amazing work you have done. the film is based on amazing conversations you had with your mom, gloria vanderbilt. i want to play one of those conversations. >> is this look like what he looked like when you first met him? >> well, it's a terrible photograph, but he was 63 when i first married him. >> when you first saw him, you thought -- >> instant, knew him for a week. >> how old were you? >> 20. and he was 63? >> yeah. >> wow. did any of your friends think it was weird? >> i don't know. i mean --
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didn't matter. >> sounds like you really learned a lot of things about your mom, things that you didn't know. things that you probably never talked about earlier. how revealing was this entire experience? >> you know, it was incredibly revealing. the whole film really started -- for years, i had been going through like a lot of kids do with their aging parents' stuff. i had started going through a lot of things, her stuff, and saw these letters from errol flynn, people she was involved with. i relearealized lived in the public eye more than many people. i didn't want anything left unsaid. that is really the title of the film and the companion book we wrote today, called "the rainbow comes
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and goes." it is really something i hope informs people about my mother's life, and she lived this epic life, with triumphs and tragedies, and is optimistic at 92. but i also hope it encourages people to have a conversation with a loved one in their life, particularly an aging parent before it is too late. >> so what brought you specifically to making this film about your mom? >> you know, i have been shooting stuff with her, interviews, since i was in my 20s. and i just never really thought i would put it together. and i just started to think you know, i think she has this incredible life. and one of the things we look for is one of those untold stories. and in many ways, a lot of people know my mom's name, gloria vanderbilt, they don't know really what her life actually was like. she has this public face, but the person who she was, the life she lived, was far
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more interesting. so to me i approached it like i would any story. it was this person who everybody thinks they know or maybe knows a little bit about, but doesn't really know the real story. >> what advice do you have, anderson, for viewers who are inspired and want to talk to their parents about the past? >> you know, i think you have to talk slowly and be incredibly sensitive. some subjects are particularly hard to talk about. or for anybody to talk about. but you have to show that you're really listening and coming from a good place and are really listening and you know, start off slow and respond to what this person is saying and just listen. and it is incredible the type of stories that get revealed. >> it is really an amazing story, new york times number one best seller. anderson, congratulations, you did a really, really great job. >> thanks, wolf.
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>> cnn will advertise this later tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern, anderson cooper, nothing left unsaid. and remember you can always follow us on twitter, tweet me at cnn sit room or at wolf blitzer. please be sure to join us monday here in "the situation room." i'm wolf blitzer, thank you very much for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, donald trump crossing a major threshold, now has more than a thousand delegates, this as he faces protesters out in california, protesters out in full force. plus, does john kasich regret his pact with ted cruz. and why is he comparing himself to tiger woods? the government is out front, more on that quote unquote deal or alliance. and hillary


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