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got so bad he had to sneak in the back entrance. >> oh, boy, felt like i was crossing the border actually. you know, it's true. i was crossing the border. but i got here. >> cnn jason carroll was at that location at the trump protest and joins us now. jason. >> and good morning to you, martin. ted cruz received a warm reception, expecting to receive a warm reception when he speaks to folks here later on today. john kasich also warm reception last night when he came here to the state convention. donald trump for his part, warm reception, some could say. some who came out thought he should have done a little more to reach out to the party. he did make light of what was happening outside in terms of all of those demonstrators who showed up. you heard in the joke he made to the folks at the state convention but also in terms of reaching out to the people who are in the room many of them gop insiders, people he's been
critical of in the past he spoke about the need to try to unify the party. >> i think it's going to come to an end very soon and i speak to the people in the room. there has to be unity in our party. there has to be unity in our party. [ applause ] and if there's not, if there's not unity and i mean really good solidarity, unity, relationship, friendship, we have people like jim where they do such a good job all over the country, we have some great people, but there should be and there has to be unity. >> reporter: john kasich saying in terms of unity he is the best candidate to do that. john kasich basically saying that what happened outside, martin, is another example why donald trump in his words is someone who cannot unify but more of someone who is dividing people, not bringing them
together. having said that, trump leading in the polls in indiana and here in california. trump telling his supporters there in indiana if he can win there basically this race is all but over. martin. >> and he's probably right. jason carroll, thank you very much. trump has broken the thousand delegate mark and you've heard him predict he will break the record for votes. his totals so far are impressive. but the numbers also show where his campaign needs some work if he wants to go all the way. cnn tom foreman has more on that. >> reporter: trump could prove to be a record breaker in this gop primary season. he already has roughly 10.1 million votes cast for him in all the primaries and caucuses and there are only about 80% done. that compares very favorably to the total primary and caucus votes for some other recent contenders, mitt romney for example had 10.1 million votes. john mccain, 9.9 million votes and george w. bush, 12.6 million
votes. that's more yes but trump could hit that number. granted, everyone here had a lot of people running against them when he started their campaigns, but in the case of these three, the most robust competition dropped off earlier than it has against donald trump so you can argue that's actually won these votes while fighting longer and harder through a denser pack of contenders. he does, however, have to bring over a lot more support if he's going to go into the general election if he becomes the nominee. look at this. yes, he has 10 million or so votes out there so far. but ted cruz has almost 7 million. john kasich, more than 3.5 million and all the other combined almost 5 million. wrap that all together and what you have is more than 15 million people who have voted in the republican primary in caucus process who do not support donald trump. if he really wants to become the nominee and wants to make history, he's going to have to
get an awful lot of those people up in his camp. >> always interesting. tom foreman, thanks very much. coming up, police release the logs of nearly 50 911 calls from prince's paisley park complex including the one made the day he died. do they give us any insight to what happened to the music icon? . she said "jen, go pro with crest pro-health advanced." advance to healthier gums... ...and stronger teeth from day one. using crest toothpaste and mouthwash makes my... ...whole mouth feel awesome. and my teeth are stronger too. crest-pro health advanced... ...is superior to colgate total... ...in these 5 areas dentists check. this check up? so good. go pro with crest pro-health advanced. mom's right...again!
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a painkiller. to combat this growing problem the government is encouraging anyone with expired or unwanted pills to turn them in at collection sites around the country. no questions asked. cnn's rachel crane has more from new york. >> reporter: i don't hear anything right now. >> and as you can tell she doesn't hear us. but we'll fix it and get back to her. rachel, can you hear me now? >> reporter: i can hear you now but i can't -- i didn't hear an intro or anything. >> you're already talking to me. i'm the anchor so go ahead and start the report. >> reporter: martin, we're here at the tenth precinct and this is just one of many drop-off sites across the country where people are allowed to dispose of their unwanted medication and over the past hour we have seen a steady stream of people dropping off their medication. this is the 11th time the dea has held this event and the d. a agents manning the box there,
they had to change out the bag because there was such a high volume of medication being dropped off and earlier the dea held a press conference urging the entire nation to take part in this event. take a listen. >> everyone has a role in stopping this epidemic. citizens who have prescription drugs, especially opiods, need to safeguard the drugs when you finish with them, you should dispose of them properly. these drugs have a place in medicine but they are easily abused and they are dangerous. >> reporter: now as you heard the dea point out this is truly an epidemic. according to a 2014 national survey about 6 million americans abuse prescription pills. and the vast majority of them, they obtain those pills from a friend or a family's medicine cabinet. now, this program here is not the antidote but has certainly made a difference in getting these prescription pills off the
streets. last time they held the event which was in october they confiscated over 700,000 pounds of pills. and in the entirety of the program they've confiscated over 5 million pounds of pills. >> rachel crane, thanks very much for that. appreciate it. the record number of opiod overdoses we're seeing this country have garnered the attention of hollywood. allison janney best known for playing the white house press secretary c.j. craig on "the west wing" stopped by the daily briefing to shed light on what she's doing to try to raise awareness. >> today here at the white house ten individuals from across the country will be honored as white house champions of change. they've been selected for -- from over 900 nominations for their leadership in preventing prescription drug abuse and heroin use and for increasing access to treatment and to support their fellow americans in recovery, for supporting them in recovery. this is a disease that can touch
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and he says that carly fiorina is quite or to quote him rather, a smart choice. as to what he thinks about donald trump, well, you need to watch jamie gangel's exclusive interview. here it is. >> donald trump appears to be getting closer to the magic number. do you think the race is over? is he the presumptive nominee. >> no, not yet. he's close. he's got to win indiana and, therefore, five other states. if he doesn't get to 50 he might -- 50%, he might have problems garnering the delegates. >> do you think there's still a viable stop trump movement? >> yeah, i think there's a possibility that he won't get 50% on the first ballot and if he doesn't do that, there are a whole lot of people that don't believe he's the proper guy. >> do you think the republican party should get around him if he's the nominee. >> i think they should support
ted cruz. >> so yesterday ted cruz announced that his vice presidential pick would be carly fiorina. was that a hail mary pass? >> he's behind, but after the first ballot, anything could happen and i believe that the likely occurrence if donald trump doesn't win the nomination on the first ballot is that ted cruz is the only other candidate that's likely to win the nomination. so picking a candidate that is talented, tough, you know, she takes on trump really well, i think, and she takes on hillary clinton very well, as well, someone who's got a proven record and who's been vetted as a candidate, i thought was a smart move by ted cruz. >> you think it was the right pick? >> yeah, yeah, i do. i think -- i'm impressed with her. >> you've said in the past that you didn't think that donald trump was ready to be president. but if he is the nominee, apart
from whatever else you think might happen, whether he would beat hillary or not, will you support him? >> i don't think he's a serious person. >> you haven't changed your mind. >> no, i ha've seen nothing -- speech, recent speech about foreign policy was -- you can't -- i don't think which donald trump to believe. the one that read from a teleprompter, a speech that was inside the lines or the one that wants to build a wall and make mexico pay for it or a 45% tariff on china or abandoning nato or saying that it's, you know, it's -- it would be a smart thing to have japan and korea go it alone and build their nuclear capability to deal with china, which donald trump is the one that is expressing these views? there's two of them. and i think we need a president with a steady hand. >> it sounds like you wouldn't vote for him. >> i hope i won't have to be faced with that dilemma and
until i am, i'm not even going to think about it. >> do you think there's a case to be made for republicans voting for hillary clinton if he is the nominee? >> no. no, i mean, a third term of barack obama's hyperaggressive use of executive power to create massive uncertainty for our economy really restricting ability for people to have growing income, more control and power in washington, d.c. would be a disaster. >> looking back at the campaign, how do you feel about how you did, what you did. >> yeah. wow, i mean i don't think about it too much. i've concluded that whatever mistakes i made and i certainly made them probably wouldn't have changed the outcome. >> what do you think happened. >> it's definitely a crazy year. look, donald trump was -- still is a phenomenal.
>> and if donald trump is the nominee, should the republican party -- will you rally around him? >> i am hopeful that he won't be the nominee. >> you think he wiyou'll ever rr politics again. >> who, me? i've learned to never say never but, you know, this was my chance. this was the chance and i ran into a storm. >> no regrets though. >> no, none at all. >> that was cnn's jamie gangel reporting. another cnn interview, exclusive, is next. hillary clinton, she responds to trump's women's card accusations making that response to our jake tapper. you'll hear the conversation next. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of the at&t network, a network that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever.
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backlash from a comment she made that native americans are taking offense to. clinton saying i have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation. unquote. now bernie sanders' campaign is calling her choice of words, quote, disappointing. clinton made the controversial comment while brush off attacks in an interview with cnn. our jake tapper has that interview. >> madam secretary, thanks so much for doing this. congratulations on tuesday night. >> thanks a lot, jake. it was terrific. we really -- >> four for five. >> we had a great campaign and all the states. it felt good. >> that night donald trump said that he considers himself the presumptive nominee of the party. do you consider yourself the presumptive nominee. >> no, i consider myself as someone who's on the path and obviously i'm very far ahead in both the popular vote and the delegate count so i think the path leads to the nomination but, you know, i'm going to keep competing in the elections that are up ahead of us. >> senator sanders issued a
statement that suggested he's not necessarily running to win anymore. he's running to advance progressive causes on the democratic platform. specifically he named $15 minimum wage at the national level medicare for all breaking up the bank, trading our trade position and passing a tax on carbon. are these issues where you think you could make a deal with senator sanders, find some common ground and get those issues on the platform should you be the nominee. >> i certainly look forward to working with senator sanders in the lead-up to the convention in the lead-up to the platform that will represent the democratic party. it will be a progressive platform. i've run on a progressive agenda and i really welcome his ideas and his supporters' passion and commitment because the most important thing for us is to win in november. there is no more important goal and i was pleased when senator sanders said the other day he's going to work tirelessly seven days a week to make sure that
donald trump is not president and i really welcome that because that has to be our primary objective. >> are there any other specific issues that you think, yeah, i could do that? i know medicare for all, you've already ruled out. >> we're going to talk. we're going to work together because, look, we want the same goals. we both want to raise the minimum wage. the republicans led by donald trump don't want to. we both want to get to universal health care coverage. the republicans don't seem interested in that. we both want a deal with climate change, something they deny so if we go down the list we have so much more in common. i said that in my remarks tuesday night in philadelphia. the connection between my supporters and myself and senator sanders and his supporters are very strong. we really are going to be unified and have a tremendous progressive agenda to run on in the fall and i really think that will help us win the election and it will also help us govern. >> do you think if he withholes his support until the convention that will hurt your chances in
november should you be the nominee. >> i don't have any reason to believe that. i know when i dropped out in early june, i immediately endorsed senator obama. we had differences in our campaign. we had differences on issues. we had run a really tough race all the way to the end but i endorsed him. i began working for him and, of course, we talked about the platform. we talked about the convention, he asked moo he to nominate him at the denver convention so, you know, we went through some of the same process and, in fact, i think when i drop the out the polling was that 40% of my supporters said they would not support senator obama. thankfully the vast majority of them did. so this is a natural kind of process that i think will play itself out. >> it's interesting because of all the people in the world there is probably no one who knows what bernie sanders is feeling more than you. >> right. right. >> take us back to 2008. what you think senator sanders is going through it's like, ah, i came so close but -- >> it's hard, jake.
i mean you throw yourself into these campaigns, body and soul. you work 24/7. everybody is so invested in , - trying to win and i'm very proud of my campaign, grateful i have such strong support but i absolutely understand that, you know, senator sanders has been a passionate advocate for positions that he cares deeply about, i think that's been helpful to the democratic primary process. he's brought millions of people into the process, which i think is also very good for the democratic party. but there comes a time when you have to look at the reality, in fact, in '08 i was much closer in both popular vote and pledge delegates to senator obama than is the case right now. but eventually i just decided that i had to withdraw and support senator obama because the goal was to make sure we had a democrat in the white house. >> donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee in his view
and probably in reality, as well, is saying that he's going to go after sanders' supporters. a lot are independents. you've had trouble winning over in the open primaries were independents and democrats could vote that they have similar views on trade, on big money in politics, how are you going to counter that and prevent him from getting the sanders supporters. >> we're going to be outreaching to senator sanders' supporters, as well and i just don't see how the calculation adds up. if you don't believe in climate change it's pretty hard to go after people who passionately believe in it. if you don't believe in raising the minimum wage, in fact, you think wages are too high in america i don't think you have much of an argument. if you are demeaning women, you don't believe equal pay is an issue, you are really insulting to women, i don't see how that adds up either. if you have a kind of reckless, loose, dangerous view of foreign policy, i don't think that is
very appealing so i'm going to be very aggressive in, you know, reaching out to senator sanders' supporters but we have so much more in common and we have far more in common than they do with donald trump or any republican. and we're going to work together. i really respect the important point of getting money out of politics. remember, citizens united was an attack on me so i take it very personally and even before senator sanders got into the campaign, way back in april of last year, i said we are going to reverse citizens united and if we can't get the supreme court to do what i think would be the right decision, then i will lead a constitutional amendment. >> utahed about donald trump's foreign policy. he gave a foreign policy address recently. i'm wondering if you had a chance to see it or read about it and what you thought. >> well, i certainly read about it and i think it's quite concerning. his talk about, you know, pulling out of nato. his talk about letting other countries have nuclear weapons which runs counter to 70 years
of bipartisan national security policy. his idea that, he, quote, has a secret plan to isis that he's not going to tell anybody. i found it disturbing because i, you know, as a senator from new york for eight years, as secretary of state for four year, i know that the stakes are high. that we face some real challenges and dangers in the world and i don't think loose talk about loose nukes, i don't think turning our back on our strongest ally, i don't think pretending you have some sort of secret plan is a very smart way to go forward in leading the world which is what we must do. >> on some issues it seems like he'll run to your left on the populist left and one might be the use of force and military interinvestigation and whether it's libya or iraq, what will your response be when he says, hillary clinton is part of the group that gets us into these wars. >> well, look, i think that i'm always someone who uses military force as a last resort.
it's not a first choice. as secretary of state i talked a lot about smart power, about diplomacy and development. i'm the one who put together the coalition that imposed sanctions on iran, brought them to the negotiating table, which led to putting a lid on their nuclear weapons program and that's exactly what we need to do because there was a very real potential that military action might have been taken in order to try to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. so when you have somebody who says he's going to be tough and he's going to get results but he doesn't tell you how he's going to do it, you know, i think we'll have a lot to contrast with. >> he also said that if you were a man you would be at 5% in the polls. what did you think when you heard that. >> i don't respond to ace attacks on me. i think it's kind of silly. i was elected to the national twice from new york. i was someone who got more than 18 million votes the first time i ran. i now have 2 million more votes than donald trump has, more than
12 million votes to his 10 million. so it doesn't really square with reality. what i worry about is the way he attacks all kinds of groups of people. and i want to be, you know, their spokesperson. i'm going to stand up for them. you know, attacking me, demeaning me, you know, talking about playing the woman's card, well, there are a lot of women out there who are really struggling, women working on minimum wage, women not being paid fairly, women trying to balance family and work and finding it really, really hard. women who are worried about security in their neighborhoods, women who have a lot of legitimate concerns and as i said tuesday night, if playing the woman's card means standing up for the concerns that women have and that they express to me deal me in because that's exactly what i've always done for decades, what i will do in this campaign. >> he has taken politics to a new place with his negative branding of people, whether it's saying jeb bush is low energy, or talking about lying ted cruz
and for his supporters it's worked and he called you corrupt hillary and he's had some rather personal and pointed tweets. have you learned anything from watching the way that republicans dealt with him in the primaries that will inform how you will deal with such an unconventional candidate. >> remember, i have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak. i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or their efforts to try to provoke me. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i could really care less. >> tomorrow morning on "state of the union" jake will go one-on-one with republican presidential candidate ted cruz. don't miss "state of the union" tomorrow at 9:00 eastern time only on cnn. monday marks five years
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the top it was just like no other feeling i've ever experienced. >> she was hooked. now at age 57 she's ranked seventh in the united states and 21st in the world. >> the empire state building is the ultimate race. you get up into the stairs and you try not to look at the floors. it's just a feeling of accomplishment. just self-affirmation. i would like to keep doing this into my 80s, 90s, i just want to go all over the world and keep doing this. >> bernie sanders is going to be in an unusual position tonight. instead of being in the spotlight on stage the democratic candidate will be in the audience. as an invited guest at the white house correspondents' dinner. but it won't last long as he sets his sights on the remaining contests and particularly california where there are a whopping 475 democratic delegates that are up for grabs
june 7th. let's bring in julian and basil spikele, executive director of the new york state democratic -- did i say that right. >> yes. >> he's a former senior aide on hillary clinton's senate staff. julian, let me start with you, sanders says, of course, he's still focusing on winning the race. i'd ask how critical is california but that's a given. it is critical. he would have to win california but what's his strategy to try to pull ahead of clinton there right now? >> well, i mean i don't think he is going to win the race for his candidacy at this point. i think what he can do is win space for the ideas he's been promoting and also and keep his coalition, his supporters in the democrat ig fold. so i think realistically that's what he's aiming to do and make sure going into the convention that the sanders campaign is not forgotten.
>> and basel, i think it's obvious hillary clinton is shifting her campaign focus here. she's already looking ahead to november. she's attacking donald trump and i'm wondering if in doing that there's some risk as well that perhaps, you know, she might be overlooking some important states still to come. overlooking perhaps bernie sanders' backers. >> you know, i don't think she's overlooking any important states. bear in mind also that california votes the same day as new jersey and there are a tremendous amount of delegates up for grabs on julian's point is really important here. even if bernie sanders does sort of keep his coalition intact among college students which is a very rich community in the state of california what hillary clinton has to do is build on the coalition she had in 2008 and beat barack obama by eight points there back in 2008. if she picks up a large chunk of the african-american community, maintain the lead she had over women during that race and the
latino community, i think she does very well and i think she can use a lot of those talking points to look forward to november, especially because it's a very important senate race involving an african-american woman out in california too so i think a lot of what she's looking at is raising her profile but the race's down-ballot. >> a two for one. julian, sanders is somewhat looking ahead, speaking now about a plan b if his agenda -- if she clinches the nomination referring to hillary clinton so he's planning to fight for every delegate he can to get his progressive agenda in the convention. do you think that, you know, he really stands much of a chance here or do you think the clinton campaign is saying we were competing but we've won, we move on. >> well, look, he has leverage. the more delegates that he has going into the convention, the more leverage there will be or the perception of that, i do think people in the clinton
campaign are still worried. they don't want a divisive post primary season. they certainly don't want sanders sitting out the contest in the fall and not actively supporting hillary clinton. so i think in the interview she's already kind of sending signals she wants to build a coalition and repair. you know, the divisive words that have been spoken and the divisive feelings that do exist among many democrats so she can't take it for granted and i do think he does command a certain amount of leverage because of how well he's done in this unexpected candidacy. >> basi. will, that brings me to an olive branch. what kind of olive branch could the clinton campaign could hillary clinton offer sanders as they try to heal things up here. >> well, i think she talked about it in the interview. she talked about giving him a wide sort of berth with respect to engaging and making
prescriptions for what the democratic platform is going to be for the fall but one piece that i would mention, however, is that i think what -- one of the things i would like to see is him not to view the values of big "d" democratic politics because as i talked about earlier we have all those down-ballot races in these local state election that is are so incredibly important so what i think, what i would love to see is how -- is if hillary can convince him and talk about how you get his supporters engaged in these local elections too. >> julian, i want to bring up that you wrote in a cnn op-ed before we let you go and it goes, even if this is the end of the sanders campaign, the impact of what he has done will continue to be seen for years to come. the campaign tactic, the policy issues and connections between campaigns and the grass roots will never be the same again. what do you mean by that? >> look, there's a long list of losing candidates, such as a george mcgovern or howard dean who still have an impact on the
party. i think what he's shown in terms of raising small donations can be a model for democratic fund-raising in years to come. i think he's put certain issues on the table from campaign finance to economic inequality that hillary clinton has now joined him in but are quite important for the party for its identity for its mission and finally, look, if a lot of these young people don't turn away after he is gone he might have excited a new generation of democrats into the party. all of this is extremely important for the long term. >> and basil, before i let you both go, we've been listening to donald trump apparently try to reach out to bernie sanders or at least those who support him. do you think that would actually work? >> good luck. listen, i think in some way, in some ways bernie sanders and donald trump are -- have very similar messages. >> they do. >> the system is rigged. they obviously go about it in very different ways. i don't think a bernie sanders supporter is going to end up
supporting donald trump. donald losing women across the board, incredible misogynistic and i don't see that that coalition -- the bernie coalition easily transfers to a donald trump, but i wish him luck in his attempt. >> yeah, well, i'm sure he thinks he will appeal to them. basil is smikle, thank you very much. julian zelizer. the white house correspondents' dinner and a chance for the president to show off his comedic skills and he has quite a few of them. take a look. i am determined to make the most of every moment i have left. my advisers asked me, mr. president, do you have a bucket list? and i said, well, i have something that rhymes with bucket list. [ laughter ] take executive action on immigration, bucket. [ laughter ] new climate regulations, bucket.
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to get a look at the culture. >> when i am looking around and i will see different groups of people in different areas, and are they broken up in any way? >> yes, they are. >> and just beyondthe ten the nis courts, the white guys are, and at the basketball court is where all of the african-americans are, and there is a little land are there behind us called the shack where the pisus. the individuals from south and not californian so to speak, and there is an area for the northern groups. >> so it seems that the black guys have the basketball court. no surprise there. and if you are a white guy that wants to play basketball, it is just not recommended that you go over there? i mean, do the white guys with a good jump shot, will they welcome you in there? >> maybe it will feel that way, and may be that the guys there
may not have an issue with, but the guys that look like you may have an issue of you coming over there. >> and is there an effort to create that cross poll nation? >> well, yes, many efforts, through the cross training, and the ways we try to put people n next to each other that traditionally are not next to each other. >> and there you can get a sense of how unique it s. and the inmates will screen the episode. joining me from outside of the san quentin prison is kamau bell. and good to talk to you. and have you heard feedback from the prisoners about your presence and everything that you were doing? >> i mean, i have heard from people on the outside who were prisoners who are excited about the the idea of this work, because they, and you know, i think that they trust ed that i am going to go in there with the right idea. we are going to go in there tonight, and i have heard of the people from san quentin who said
that they are excited to have us back and excited to see the episode and have me back in there. >> were you surprised by anything as you went in there to shoot the episode? >> yes, i was very surprised. i went in, and i had never been behind the walls in a prison and not to visit or because i belonged there, and i was afraid and i bought into the narrative of the tv and the film of how scary it is, and within a few minutes first of all, somebody recognized me from television, and that loosened me up, and the guys were open and honest and revealing and intelligent and funny and when i left i felt sad about the fact that many of those guys won't be outside of prison. >> so you were escorted and if the escort can had left you in the general population would you have felt as secure? >> yeah, i would have, and to be clear at san quentin, and this is the only death row in california, and i the did not get into that area, and the area where the guys i should be w worried about, but in the general population, i was not looking for the escort, but last
week in the united shades of america, i twoewent to the klan i had my head on the swivel the whole time, but not in san quentin so it is to show these guys in being human in this element. >> what did you learn about the population of the united states from this? >> well, i had to do some research for the show, but when you are in there it is bad and reflected in a stark way. in america, we have 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the prison's population. and as a black man with 13% of america's population, black men make up 40% of america's prison population system, so it is clear that it is broken and i hope that the episode can get out there, and show that we have thrown away a lot of people's lives and people who did something bad and violent things, but been in prison for 20 years, and san quentin has the best rehab programs, and everybody wants to get here, so we have prisons that should be about rehabilitation, right? >> well, it should be, and
whether it still is, we will see, and thanks to the program, we will get more insight. kamau bell, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> he will be at san quentin tonight as the prisoners screen the episode. you can watch "united shades of america, behind the walls" and that is tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. right here on cnn. the next hour of the cnn newsroom begins right after this short break.
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