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donald trump will make the case for himself live, right here. >> and talk to a panel of republican women about what they think of the candidate's words regarding female voters. great to have you in studio. stand by. we begin with breaking news. violent protests breaking out on the streets of seattle overnight. what started as a peaceful demonstration, escalated to police in riot gear. some throwing rocks, molotov cocktails, smashing windows. several protestors and police officers have been injured. we have the details. >> reporter: hey, alisyn, the festivities turned into mayhem. a group of protestors that started throwing things at police. when it was all over, several officers injured and at least nine people arrested. >> there it is! >> reporter: flash grenades containing tear gas and pepper
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spray filling the air and police in riot gear try to break up hundreds of protestors. >> i need a doctor. >> reporter: the annual march celebrating the rights of workers and immigrants started peacefully but turned violent sunday evening after police say anti-capitalist demonstrators began breaking windows and throwing wooden poles and molotov cocktails like these. >> we have to do something, and we will. >> reporter: injuries suffered on both sides. several officers hurt in an intense standoff. one struck by a rock, another hit by a molotov cocktail and another bitten by a protest, while some were injured from the grenades. >> all of a sudden, get back and sprayed [ bleep ] right in my face. >> reporter: the protest dwindled into the night. [ chuanting ] >> reporter: a very different picture in los angeles, where
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thousands took to the streets in peaceful may day marches. >> we're here to fight together. >> reporter: some taking aim at donald trump's immigration policy. the republican front-runner looming large in the form of and carrying a kkk hood. >> what we cannot stand for any longer and no longer be suppressed and we are taking our power back. >> reporter: ub fortunanfortuna seattle has this kind of a history of violence. we've seen it play out over the years. officers were prepared but shows you only can do so much with a group inciting violence. >> we'll see what accountability happens for those actions as well. turn to this 2016 race. donald trump hoping voters in indiana will help him deliver the knockout blow to his gop rivals. the republican front-runner upping the ante declaring the nomination is his if he wins
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tomorrow's primary. we have the battle for ind covered the way only cnn can. we begin with phil mattingly. what do you got? >> good morning, chris. supposed to be the moment for ted cruz and his campaign, after two weeks of sweeping donald trump victories, indiana was where cruz would seize the race back and go on that path to block donald trump's race to secure the gop nomination. one problem. what happens if trump wins indiana? we may be about to find out. >> reporter: time, running out on the stop trump movement? >> the two last ones are like hanging by their fingertips. they're choking. "don't let me fall! don't let me fall!" >> reporter: donald trump confident a big win in the indiana primary tomorrow will cement his path to the gop nomination effectively knocking out senator cruz and senator john kasich. >> then we can focus on hillary.
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please. >> reporter: and ramping up against democratic front-runner hillary clinton. >> if she were not a woman she wouldn't even be in this race. >> reporter: and refusing to tone it down. >> she is a strong person. she's going to have to be able to take it. the fact is, the only card she hases the woman's card. she's done a lousy job in so many ways and even women don't like her. >> reporter: ted cruz penning his best for indiana, even though the latest poll in the state shows him trailing trump by 15 points. >> i have to tell you, i have faith in hoosiers. in the common sense, good judgment of the men and women of this great state. >> reporter: over the weekend, donald trump saying he's being cheated of delegates he won in arizona. >> it's all a rigged system. for instance, i won in arizona. i won everything, but these guys are trying to go in and get votes in the second ballot. >> reporter: the cruz campaign trying to outmaneuver the front-runner, courting delegates country-wide to come his way at
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a contested convention, all if trump isn't able to lock up the nomination on the first ballot. a contested convention, obviously something the trump campaign does not want at all. something the cruz campaign is continuing to push for. one thing to keep in mind, guys, if donald trump does win indiana, sweep a large number of the state's 57 delegates, a pretty good chance a contested convention is not something that will happen. guys? >> interesting. tomorrow will be fascinating. phil, thanks for setting it up for us. we discuss with our cnn political commentator matt lewis, a senior contributor and david gregory, host of "the david gregory podcast "and cnn political reporter maeve reston. great to have you all with us. maeve, start with you. indiana is supposed to be cruz country. so what is going wrong, or i should say not exactly right for cruz there? >> obviously, donald trump had a lot of momentum rolling out of the acela primary we called it,
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the big northeastern states, and at the same time the talk radio in indiana is not coming to cruz' rescue the way that his campaign was hoping and the way they have in other states. the third factor here is this sort of crumbled alliance between john kasich and ted cruz where, you know, kasich's folks were supposed to stay out of indiana. what the cruz people are looking at and the anti-trump forces, a lot of those kasich supporters in indiana just can't quite stomach cruz and aren't necessarily going to go in there and vote for cruz the way they were supposed to. so it's going to be really fascinating to watch. i do think it's much closer in indiana than it looks in that latest poll. a lot of the internal polls with the campaigns and the anti-trump forces have been tighter than that. >> hmm. to borrow your phrase, can't stomach the fact there was an alliance in the first place.
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>> true. >> if there's one point of consolidation within the gop, whoever wins this primary, doesn't matter close to the 1,237 or not, should get the jop nomination. how big a deal is this? the secondary process for the delegates after the main state primary. now you go state convention. ted cruz coming in there with what i guess is a better organization and talking to delegates who now say, yeah, i'm with you on the second vote. how big a deal is this? >> it's a big deal, because it's a sign he's out-organized donald trump really all along the way here in securing delegates. i just don't know if it's going to be enough. the reality is, he's got to win indiana. ted cruz says that. effectively saying it's over if he can't win indiana. the margin of what trump would need 20 win it on the first ballot goes down under 50%. >> a quick move, like in arizona, where alisyn wins the vote outright and then i come in and talk to everybody and say, only for the first vote?
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is that part of the new definition of winning for cruz? >> oh, i think it is. even if he loses then indiana, the only place for a contested convention, tries to somehow deny trump in california, the big prize where he could do that, and try to build up a little momentum in some of these western states. but, again, i think it just may be too little, too late. one of the things different than, say, wisconsin, trump has come out of the northeast owning that entire piece of geography and carrying that momentum into indiana. voters a distaste for the alliance and by more estate support for trump coming out of, for one thing, capitol hill. >> matt, john kasich's argument has been, for a long time, one overarching theme, and really good case, by the way. that is i'm the only person that can beat the democrat come november. look at the latest polls. okay? you see clinton beats trump in a head-to-head matchup, 50% to his
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39%. beats cruz. then kasich, 46% to 41%. a good argument but doesn't seem to be necessarily resinating in the primary states? >> no, it's not. i think, you know, in terms of how it might affect this race, it would only matter if kasich were close. right? if he were within a couple hundred dell guilt of donald trump and there was a contested convention, maybe then he could make a compelling argument, hey, i'm the candidate who can win a general election. clearly, this is a sign that republican primary voters have not prioritized beating hillary clinton. i mean, that's not their top priority. now, that will change at some point, but, you know, kasich clearly has not caught on. that message is not really resonating, and the other thing i would point out is, i do think that donald trump, he may surprise a lot of people, if these the nominee. i think he could give hillary a much tougher time than the polls are now showing, because once he zeros in on somebody and tries to take them down, it tends to
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work. >> well, also, we know that this far out those types of potential matchup polls are often about recognition. >> doesn't mean anything. >> and less recognition than donald trump? >> right. inverse effect. why bernie sanders does better, talk to the clinton people, he hasn't been vetted the same way. that's the theory. again, all speculation at this point. >> and breathing contempt. >> exactly right. as in my life. maeve, let me ask you, my dinner table turned into a crucible of considerable thought about the woman card and donald trump, and there were a couple of women who were really angry at all of the other women who didn't seem to care as much. has thexa exaggerated the significance? if not, why not, the hillary card? >> a dynamic of the race we will talk about for many months to come. the fact that donald trump is going to take that line of attack against hillary clinton
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is really potentially a risky move for him. i mean, republicans are already under water among single women. you know they have a huge deficit to make up if they run against hillary clinton, and donald trump is just doing nothing to try to turn around his unfavorables with women. so i think that, you know, there are some women who don't care that he said that. i think there be a lot of women who do care, and the big question is whether donald trump really has a strategy to turn around his unfavorables with women. because we haven't seen it yet. >> david, quickly, i think you mentioned that the establishment seems to be kind of accepting the donald trump, that dnonald trump might be the nominee, and mark sanford said, many who expressed concerns are reconciling ourselves to the fact in all likelihood he will be the eventual nominee and more and more trying to make peace with this. >> on the show, i'm not going to
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talk about donald trump. let's see what happens. and now saying, ah, he's pretty clever. >> there you go. >> these are people who think that donald trump will sit down with congressional leaders and others and get advice on how to conduct himself as president. unlike a ted cruz who they view as having a particularly inflexible and pretty hard-edged brand of conservatism. >> panel, thank you very much. one reminder, donald trump will join us live on "new day" coming up in our 7:00 hour. so stick around for that. on the democratic side, senator bernie sanders making a push for super delegates in states he has won insisting they should back him instead of hillary clinton and vows to stay in the race until the convention in july when those super delegates formally get to vote at the convention. clinton for her part is keeping her sights set on donald trump. bring in cnn chris frates live from indianapolis this morning. good morning, chris. >> reporter: hey, good morning, john. bernie sanders continues to campaign hard here in indiana, trying to close that gap with
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hillary clinton and win this nomination, although that's a feat even he is now acknowledging is a long shot, and if you look at the math you really start to understand why he has to win almost all of the delegates remaining in order to wrap up this nomination. >> that is admittedly, and i do not deny it for a second, a tough road to climb, but it is not an impossible road to climb. and we intend to fight for every vote in front of us, and for every delegate remaining. >> reporter: now, bernie sanders is calling on the super delegates in the states that he won to support him, but even if those democrats power brokers were to switch sides the math still doesn't work out for bernie sanders and the polls also aren't looking much better for him. if you look at the latest nbc poll here in indiana, he's trailing clinton by 50-46. that might explain why hillary
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clinton isn't even campaigning here in indiana today and shifted her focus from sanders to donald trump, railing against him and saying he's inciting violence at his rallies. trump firing back against clinton, continuing to call her crooked hillary and saying, he's going to use some of the same lines of attack in a general election that bernie sanders has used against her in this primary. now, sanders has defended himself against that, saying that he'll do whatever it takes to stop donald trump or the gop nominee, but it looks like he'll do everything other than get out of this race early to clear the field. bernie sanders saying he's in it until the end. he's going to stay until june, chris. >> chris frates, appreciate it. thank you very much. we want to get you to another story this morning. this hit on this syrian hospital matters. we want to show you surveillance video from the moment of the air strike. there's no question that the pictures there from uk's channel 4, they might be difficult to watch, but you need to remember what happened there, because they're still trying to sort out who is responsible. one camera captures the final
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moments, doctor mohammed moaz' life, his last moments. he was the last pediatrician in aleppo, just seconds after he walks out of frame, when the missile hits. he was among 50 people killed. u.s. secretary of state john kerry is in geneva, switzerland. no more information yet coming from the u.s. government about who did this, but he says he is trying to resume cease-fire talks there. severe weather to tell you about. heavy rain, strong winds, lightning hitting parts of the south and midwest. indiana had large hail. the indianapolis airport was under a shelter in place order, because of a tornado warning. cnn meteorologist chat myers joins s with the forecast. >> better in texas and louisiana where the flooding over the weekend was tremendous. some of the pictures we'll show you later. unbelievable how much water was on the ground nap is headed to
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d.c. storms there even into new york city, upstate and western pennsylvania, but there will be severe weather later on this afternoon, if you're flying in or out, could be delays. down south, severe thunderstorm watch. there still could be more severe weather down here where it's already flooded, more rain on top of places they just don't need more rain. there you go. from charlotte, all the way up to almost new york city, the risk of severe weather as that front comes in this afternoon. there it comes, and there it goes. it will be quick, but tell you what, it doesn't take much if you're outside. could be a lot of lightning out there. have a place to take cover. the rain continues and so will the good weather, eventually getting better as the front goes by and i'm predicting a fast and dry kentucky derby for the middle part of the country for louisville for this saturday. chris? >> louisville. well said. well said. you avoided nasty e-mails there. >> oh, i'll get some. don't worry. >> from me! check back in a little bit. all right. so you know who finally weighed in on the race, really just giving it to everybody? president obama.
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now, it was all in jest at the white house correspondents' dinner, or was it? we're going to take a look at the impact of potus on the race. got a lot of laughs, but did any of that stink stick? next.
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so it was the final nerd prom. that's what they called the white house correspondents' dinner for president obama, and, man, he came out with the dukes up. he was taking no prisoners. a chance for him to be funny but bitingly funny about republicans and democrats. a taste -- >> -- it is surprising. you've got a room full of reporters, celebrities, cameras, and he says, no. is this dinner too tacky for the donald? what could he possibly be doing instead?
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is he at home eating a trump steak? tweeting out insults to angela merkel? >> all right. let's discuss. i really just want to play more of this but will bring you in anyway and try to do it intellect actually. maeve and david. what do you want to play next? he went after everybody, first of all, the one where he made fun of hillary clinton. let's listen to this. >> you've got to admit it, though. hillary trying to appeal to young voters is a little bit like your relative who just signed up for facebook. you know? dear america, did you get my poke? is it appearing on your wall? i'm not sure i'm using this right. love, aunt hillary. >> so, david, i mean, the president got a lot of kudos for timing and comedic style. does any of this have relevance
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to the race? >> reminds me of cuomo making fun of my luggage. honestly. >> no. that wasn't a joke. it's a violation. a 6'5" man does not walk through an airport with a little gingham bag or whatever that was you had there. >> no. but i do think that he was letting loose in a particular way of, you know, a final year of his presidency. a guy who does not like these dinners and is showing up and really letting loose. you know, he had a line that was supportive of hillary clinton earlier. no doubt having fun with some of her struggling, and with trump, a combination of not just loving the opportunity to go after him, but wanting to lap in serious criticism at any bhint he thinks is a complete fail on the part of the news media. you got that, just beneath the surface. >> you want sanders or cruz? >> start with cruz. i enjoyed this one as well. let's play it. >> ted had a tough week. he went to indiana. hoosier country.
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stood on a basketball court, and called the hoop a basket ball ring. what else is in his lexicon? baseball sticks? football hats? huh. but, sure, i'm the foreign one. >> i love it! >> that was good. maeve, i mean, again, you know, hilarious, but does that stick, does that hurt at all? >> well, it was just such a brilliant joke, because obviously, you know, the birth certificate thing has clouded obama's entire presidency, and to turn it like that on ted cruz who, of course, trump likes to remind us was born in canada, was just hilarious. and i think what was so sort of successful about the president's speech was that he really did kind of take an even hand to everybody. you know, certainly hillary
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clinton referring to bernie sanders in the audience as his comra comrade. you know? then going after trump, but not going too far. really giving it to ted cruz. i think that's why it went over so well in the room. funny -- >> he was not uneven. >> i don't care what anybody said, the internet it filled with a pattern of jaundice in there. i thought he was light on donald, if anything. >> me, too. >> the conrad thing was funny. do we have time? >> do the bernie sanders/comrade joke. >> bernie, you look like a million bucks. or to put it in terms you'll understand, you look like 37,000 donations of $27 each. >> i am hurt, though, bernie, that you've been distancing yourself a little from me. i mean, that's just not something that you do to your comrade. >> oh! i love it.
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so, matt lewis, are these the kind of jokes, are there going to be recycled and be like, obama admitted he's a socialist and bernie smiled, and he's a communist. what is the impact? or just a good laugh and leave it at that? >> probably just a good laugh and i have to say, obviously he's got a good delivery. he's good at this. he's a performer, but good comedy has an element of truth to it. that's really the common theme. these are not nonsequiturs. look at them all. hillary comes across as older and out of touch as maybe with young people. >> and technology. >> technology, yeah. ted cruz comes across a little bit weird and bernie sanders comes across as an aging socialist. >> doesn't come across as one. he says he's one. >> underline the comedy, it's truth. >> there you go. >> david gregory comes across as a little odd, being a big guy walking through an airport with a little purse and a dog under his hand. these are odd things. you know? >> i can take it.
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i can take it. unlike the people in that room. you know? it's a tough crowd. i can take it. >> when you bought the luggage you needed to have to make that discussion. >> guys -- panel, on that note, we'll leave it there. thank you very much. you can keep up with all the latest political news and the state of the race. you can download the new cnn politics app available now on the app store for free including complete coverage of the white house correspondents' dinner and latest on the delegate race from both sides of the race. there's nothing chris enjoys more than david gregory's violations of the man law. >> and the word in the vocabulary house this morning. worked out well. prince's family in court this morning for a hearing on what happens to the late singer's estate. we are already hearing that his siblings are fighting about details. we'll tell you when "new day" continues.
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this morning prince's family heads to a minnesota court figure out how to hand many his considerable estate. he did not leave behind a will, but cnn learned he did leave behind a vault where the unreleased songs all could be. cnn's stephanie elam outside live minneapolis with more. stephan stephanie? >> reporter: good morning, john, yes, outside the justice center here in the county where prince lived and also where he passed away. so today we are going to have a probate hearing that we'll be attending. the first step trying to decide how bremmer trust, the agent for all of his estate, how they will move forward with breaking down all of his assets and dividing them. he has one full-blooded sister, tyka nelson and seven other siblings. two already passed away. the question, how do they break it up between all of the siblings and whether it goes on to the deceased siblings'
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children? this could be a mess, because he owned a lot of property nap massive vault of music released and unreleased, paisley park, all of that has to be decided, and, chris, if you get the impression this is going to be a long, drawn out arduous process, you'd be correct. >> you know, this is tough. every family seems to go through it. seems like nobody's immune from the least sophisticated to the most sophisticated, but there's just so much charity here to be had as well. this is going to be tough and we'll follow it. thank you for covering it, my friend. a quick break. it's hard to believe it was five years ago today that the u.s. killed osama bin laden. it's been five years. so how did it all go down? president obama and key staff members reveal what it took to pull off that mission. this is a cnn exclusive you've not heard these answers before. something we'll show you. through small things, big things,
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the discussions, but you hold back the decision until you have to make it, and in the end, what i very much appreciated was the degree to which we had an honest debate. one of the lessons i drew from that was that good process leads to good results. i could honestly say by the time i made the decision that everybody had had their say, that we had all the information and we were going to be able to get, and we had not looked tat through rose-colored glasses. we knew the risks involved. we had prepared as well as we could, and it was in that way emblematic of -- of presidential decision-making. you're always working with probabilities, and you make a
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decision, not based on 100% certainty, but with the best information that you've got. >> the special is called "we got him," president obama and the future in the war on terror, airs tonight. cnn's peter bergen joins us with a preview. peter, fascinating interview, from the very position where you did the interview, in "the situation room," you told me is not a room, it's a complex of rooms, and it's where the iconic photo was taken during that raid. all seen it many times, the president sitting there with advisers. what did you learn about the emotions going on in this room at the moment that the foughtphs taken? >> president obama, of course, the helicopter went down. i asked him what were you thinking? he said, well, it wasn't a really good start. sort of a little bit of dry humor here. clearly, hillary clinton told us that it was the most intense 30 minutes of her life. you know, they were -- a lot of
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the people who had made this decision had visions of jimmy carter. of course, the failure to rescue the hostages in iran essentially made him a one-term president. you know, we know how this turned out, but it wasn't clear to the participants how it could turn out making the decision and in the room. >> talked so much about the decision-making process and waited until he absolutely had to make the decision to do so. what was that moment? what put him over the edge in terms of having to decide. >> one thing was the lunar cycle. there was no moon around the time they were making this decision and that was very important. obviously, if you had to wait another month, the possibility of the information leaking. we know from the bin laden documents recovered that bin laden and his body guards were having a dispute. so much so they were thinking, people were thinking of leaving the compound and president obama said, you know, he just thought this was the best shot they might have. >> and time was running out.
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he's talked so much to you and we've heard him speak before about the differing opinions there, and how much he appreciated hearing them all. was there one person or a group of people more persuasive than others? or ultimately was the discussion, a debate inside the president's head but just letting the people speak their minds? >> maybe a little of both, john. at the end of the day, it's his decision. a lonely place to be. a 40% chance bin laden's there, 60%, 80%, end of the day, he's either there or wasn't. secretary gates, had become, worked theed in the nixon white house when obama was 13. vice president, who became a senator when obama was 12 both said, don't do the raid. hillary clinton said, do the raid. if they'd all said don't do the raid, that would have caused pause, but, you know, quite a lot of people other than the people i just mentioned were also advocating for the raid. >> hmm. in that picture we keep looking at and seen so many times, was he always going to be in the
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room for this or supposed to be there? >> not at all. in fact, that room, no one was supposed to be in that room. you see how jammed up it was with people. you know, the -- they could watch video in the small room. they could only hear in the situation room. people wanted to watch what was going on. you know? >> amazing. it's an amazing thing to see still to this day five years later. peter bergen, thank you so much for being with us. really looking forward to seeing the show tonight. join us tonight for the cnn special "we got him: president obama and the future in the war on terror." "ac 360" only on cnn. and dnd sdnd plonald trump the solid we women card. we ask, next.
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this morning we have a panel of women voters, republicans and democrats from around the country. what do they think about trump's views on women and how gender is playing out in this campaign. let's ask them. ladies, thanks so much for being here. >> good morning. >> great to have you all here. >> thank you. >> eade in, start with you. a small business owner, mother of two. what does the woman card mean to you? >> well, it doesn't mean anything to me. i don't need a card, and hillary doesn't need a card to be a woman. >> maybe we should be asking mr. trump where's his man card, and why is he so thin skinned? >> hmm. and are you a hillary supporter? >> yes. >> okay. >> i deliberately registered as a democrat so that i could vote for hillary clinton. >> though you had been an independent? >> i had been an independent all my voting life. >> pass the mime, maricelli. you support donald trump.
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what do you think about him playing the woman card? >> i feel as a woman she has privilege because she is a woman, so it's an advantage to her, but i don't necessarily think just because she's a female she'll get all the female support. >> what do you think about his tone about her and about women? has that bothered you at all? >> no. i butter it up and let it roll. i'm so focused on the issues. the issues are still we need jobs, border protection for this country, and i've been doing my research on sharia law, house resolution 569 the democrats passed new year's eve. sharia law does not protect women. under this muslim law a man can marry a 9-year-old woman. >> you're much more focused on the issues than on the tone of the race? >> absolutely. >> okay. katie, you support hillary? >> heck, yes. >> what does the woman card mean to you? >> i think it's pretty ridiculous and i think it's pretty offensive that mr. trump used that language. hillary doesn't need a woman's card.
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she's by far the most qualified candidate, and the fact that she's a woman, yeah, i think it's cool. we could have our first woman president, and, yeah. it makes me -- that makes me happy, but i think that this kind of language needs to stop. >> kristy, you already have on a microphone. nobody has to pass it to you. you're undecided. so what do you think of the tone and the subject matter of women during this race? >> i don't mind hillary picking up the woman card and playing that, so to speak. what bothers me is the way that she is playing that. it's one thing to use it to get elected or to create conversation in the election. it's another thing to make promises like, half of my cabinet will be women if i'm elected. >> why does that rub you the wrong way? >> that rubs me the wrong way, because i feel like, i wouldn't want her making decisions based on just women. it sounds like middle school to me. although for you, because you're a girl and i'll hire you because you're a girl. i would hope she would put the
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very best people in place. so -- and then the rebounding rhetoric of men that are off the reservation. to me, then, she's playing the very same game that trump has been playing. >> when you heard her say that men -- i've worked with some men who are off the reservation. that was playing a gender card in a different way, you thought? >> i felt like it was, and immediately her husband came to mind. that was the first thing that popped into my head. sand oh -- >> not the conversation that she, perhaps, wanted to plant there? >> probably not. and i understand. they're talking every day and under fire. i guess -- in a nutshell, i feel i'd rather have an unpolished candidate who makes mistakes sometimes with his words than a polished candidate who seems to have a lot of cover-ups and a lot of mistakes that are being shoved under the rug. >> if you could hand the mike to sheryl. shash sheryl, how are you feeling about this? >> well, i started out being a bernie supporter, mainly because my granddaughter setly is on
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team bernie and got grandma fired up, but as the rhetoric has heated up i have found the needle moving me closer to being a hillary supporter. >> in other words what donald trump is saying is actually inspiring you to vote for hillary? >> oh, yes. absolutely. >> how does that work? >> well, the first time that it really caught my attention and gave me pause was when he said women should go to jail for having an abortion. that's a constitutional amendment. >> should be punished. yeah. >> yes. and that -- that just really got me listening and paying attention to everything that was being said, and, of course, we have a very extreme governor in mike pence, who was doing, making, and signing legislation that is very close to that, and so it really -- it really got my attention. >> christina, you support donald, if you could hand the microphone over, you support donald trump. >> yes, i do. >> has the rhetoric bothered you
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that he uses? >> actually it doesn't, because i love the way he speaks out on every issue, no matter what, and whether you're a man or a woman, we need to look at the truth, and of the exact real deal that's really going on here, and i don't think there's been any other kind of races before that they put so much emphasis on it, and, frankly, i don't believe that, because he is saying that, that this means that every woman is blanketed with this. do i need to go find a library card and stamp it and say, hey, this is how i got to be with this? >> that's the woman card? >> yes. >> got it. >> yes. >> ladies, thanks so much for all of the diversity of opinion here. stand by, if you would, because we want to talk to you more. we're following a lot of news this morning, but we willing bringing back our panel in the 8:00 hour to talk more and also have a live interview with donald trump. so stick around for that. let's get right to it.
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>> i can't breathe, nothing. >> violent protests breaking out on the streets of seattle. >> when it becomes violent we have to do something. >> in the two last ones they're like hanging by their fingertips. >> we are campaigning through the end. >> first time in the history of politics. >> a man who cannot win chose a vice presidential candidate! >> the leading republican contender is the man who led the birther movement. >> it's a mandate for change. not obama change. real change. >> we cannot let barack obama's legacy fall into donald trump's hands. >> the evidence is extremely clear that i would be the stronger candidate. >> senator sanders, and you have to look at the reality. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." john berman is with us this morning. great to have you. so up first --
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one day away from voters heading to the polls in the high stakes race in indiana. will the underdogs, ted cruz and bernie sanders, stay alive after tomorrow? donald trump says the nomination is his if he wins indiana. the republican front-runner joins us live here on "new day" in just a few moments. first, we have breaking news. violent protests breaking out on the streets of seattle overnight. messages for immigration and workers' rights literally go up in smoke. this, as may day demonstrations take ta turn for the worst. police turning to tear gas, pepper spray, trying to rein in crowds. some of the people in the crowds tossing rocks, cans of spray paint, even molotov cocktails were in the mix. police and protestors injured in this situation. the numbers still developing. let's get right to cnn's dan simon. what do we know now? >> reporter: well, hey, chris. the festivities turned into mayhem when this group of protestors just started throwing
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things at police, busting up storefront as well. could be a very busy day of cleanup in downtown seattle. >> there it is. >> reporter: flash grenades containing tear gas. and pepper spray filling the air as seattle police in riot gear try to break up hundreds of may day protestors. >> i throat hurts. everything, i need a doctor. >> reporter: the annual march celebrating the rights of workers and immigrants started peacefully but turned violent sunday evening after police say anti-capitalist demonstrators began breaking windows and throwing wooden poles and molotov cocktails like these towards officers. >> we have to do something, and we did. >> reporter: injuries suffered on both sides. several officers hurt in an intense standoff. one struck by a rock, another hit by a molotov cocktail and another bitten by a demonstrator, while some protestors were injured from the flash grenades.
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>> all of a sudden, get back and sprayed [ bleep ] right in my face. >> reporter: seattle police making several arrests as the protest dwindled into the night. [ chanting ] >> reporter: a very different picture in los angeles, where thousands took to the streets in peaceful may day marches. >> we're here to fight together. >> reporter: some demonstrators taking aim at donald trump's immigration policy. the republican front-runner looming large in the form of a loom legacy carrying a kkk hood. >> what we cannot stand for any longer and no longer be suppressed and we are taking our power back. >> reporter: if what happened in seattle seems familiar it is. we saw this play out a few years ago in seattle. police showed up in riot gear and goes to show you when you have a group determined to incite violence there's little you can do. back to you. >> it seems to illustrate that.
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thank you, dan, for the reporting. turning now to the presidential race, the latest poll gives donald trump a double-digit lead over his rival ted cruz in indiana. donald trump joins us in minutes. first, the election covered the way only cnn can. we begin with phil mattingly. >> supposed to be the week the gop race turned back towards ted cruz. two weeks of sweeping victories for donald trump. indiana was the state where ted would seize the race back and turn it back in his favor and his push to back donald trump and get limb to a contested convention. what happens if donald trump wins indiana? one problem. we may be about to find out. >> reporter: time running out on the stop trump movement? >> i mean, the two last ones are like hanging by their fingertips. they're choking -- "don't let me fall, don't let me fall." >> reporter: donald trump winning tomorrow will cement his path to the gop nomination and
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effectively knock out senator ted cruz and governor john kasich. >> if we win indiana, it's over. okay? and then we can focus on crooked hillary. please, let's focus on hillary. >> reporter: trump kicking off the week by ramping up against democratic front-runner hillary clinton. >> if she were not a woman she wouldn't even be in this race. >> reporter: and refusing to tone it down. >> she is a strong person. she's going to have to be able to take it. the fact is, the only card she has is the woman's card. she's done a lousy job in so many ways and even women don't like her. >> reporter: ted cruz penning his best for indiana, even though the latest poll in the state shows him trailing trump by 15 points. >> i have to tell you, i have faith in hoosiers. in the common sense, good judgment of the men and women of this great state. >> reporter: over the weekend, donald trump saying he's being cheated of delegates he won in arizona. >> it's all a rigged system. for instance, i won in arizona. i won everything, but these guys are trying to go in and get
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votes in the second ballot. >> reporter: the cruz campaign trying to outmaneuver the front-runner, courting delegates country-wide to come his way at a contested convention. all if trump isn't able to lock up the nomination on the first ballot. now, donald trump and his advisers making clear, first ballot is the place they want to be and may be the only place they can win. for ted cruz to prevent that obviously he has to win on tuesday. his campaign blitzing the state with republican governor mike pence. cruz and his campaign, not giving up. still feels, chris, like they have an opportunity in the state. >> polls are odd there, and they are soft. so down to the last second and we'll be covering it. thank you very much. talk more about what's at stake in indiana. do or die for cruz and kasich? what happens in a second vote? a lot of issues in the air. let's discuss. former senior adviser to mitt romney and former rnc
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spokesperson kevin sheridan joins us and cnn political commentator and former reagan white house political director jeffrey lord. go to have you both. >> good morning. >> gentlemen, if cruz loses indiana, is it over for him? >> most likely. he's going to have a really tough time. he's made, you know -- the cruz campaign has made indiana a target. this is where he was supposed to, you know, be able to turn out the conservative vote. if public polling holds up, it's looking pretty unlikely he's going to have a path to the nomination, or to denying the nomination from trump. look, trump's still got to win in california. he's got 53 obviously separate congressional races basically to clean up in there, to get to the 1,237 but looking really unlikely if cruz can't stop him in indiana. >> all right. here's cruz' case, jeffrey, though, why he would disagree with kevin. it's that, that's only one vote,
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pal. and if he doesn't get to 1,237, which he may not, he may. but he may not. i believe he needs 47%. put up the numbers there of what trump needs to get to, of remaining delegates to get to 1,237. about 47%. kasich and cruz both over 100% of the remaining number of delegates. i always think it's funny when it's more than what's available. but he's saying, only on the first vote. look what happened in arizona, jeffrey lord. does that scare you about what happens at a convention? and for the audience at home, cruz and his operation went down to arizona and turned the majority of delegates there who by state law have to vote for trump on the first ballot, but only the first ballot. the second one is their own will. >> well, ted cruz' problem is that the momentum is with donald trump. i mean, i personally an beginning to think this nomination fight is essentially over. chris, here in pennsylvania the other day, donald trump did something that no republican or democrat has ever been able to
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do. he carried all 67 counties in a contested primary. that's never been done before. the message that kind of support sends to politicians is, you better get on the bandwagon now, because your voters are on the bandwagon. i imagine if indiana plays out as that poll indicates, that all of this is going to do is begin to seal the nomination for donald trump. we're never going to get to a second ballot. >> all right. the next question i have when i ask this question to jeffrey using ridiculous knowledge to dig up analogy to what i would ask so i will skip him and come back to you, kevin. the use of the woman card. the use of the phrase china is raping us. is this the kind of language that fires up the base? or is it a cause for concern in building a bigger tent if you have the nominee named trump? >> well, that's the great test right now. it's that he has -- he's succ d
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succeeded in the republican primary being an insult comic routine, taken down every other opponent. whether or not he can actually appeal to millennials, appeal to women, the numbers are looking really, really -- like historically high against him in that regard. so he's going to have to show that he's got a different dimension here, a different ability to actually reach out to a general election electorate, rather than just the republican primary voters he's been able to capture so far. right now his unapproval ratings are very, very high. >> do you feel the need to respond, jeffrey lord, or should i ask you something else? >> i have a column at news buster this very day that points out that when the woman in question is sarah palin and liberals feel free to hillary her as an idiot, a moron, a joke, mock, et cetera, et cetera, there is a strange silence about sexism on the left. so to be perfectly candid, i
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don't think this is going to stick. >> where is your column? news busters, you said today is where it is? >> thank you, christopher. thank you! >> boy, oh, boy. no one wanted that one. huh? let me ask you something else. >> favorite slice, no doubt. >> for sure. so in indiana, governor mike pence endorses cruz. trump says, did you read that endorsement? it's so mild it's basically for me. but do you believe that it's a good thing for him, to have governor mike pence against him, to build that broader tent? does it allow donald trump to argue that he doesn't share some of the opinions of a pence in that part of the party when it comes to what's called religious freedom laws? >> are you asking me? >> yes, jeffrey, please. >> yeah, yeah. well, i -- i think that, you know, mike pence delivered an endorsement that frankly was almost as much an endorsement of donald trump. so i don't know how much those issues are going to play, you know, state by state by state here.
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but i think donald trump is, you know, on the right side of history. on something like this. so i really don't think that that's going to be a problem. >> cruz has been making a big push on this. that's why i'm asking, kevin. he's running around that state. do you think that it's going to play in trump's favor, if he's the nominee that he can say to a broader audience, hey, i didn't get pence's endorsement there. you know where i am on the bathrooms and on these laws? >> chris, i really think that the major issues will be the economy, immigration. isis. things of that nature. i mean, i understand the hot button issues. i'm certainly not endorsing this kind of thing and would be ib cli inclined to support religious freedoms personally. in terms of overall, these issues fade in importance to the economy. >> so what do you think, kevin? >> well, to go back to the pence, you know, endorsement, or tepid endorsement. donald trump doesn't really need
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endorsements. he's proven he doesn't wale want them or need them. some pro actively might to start to get behind him because it looks like he will win the nomination and i think many still won't. his numbers are fine with or without, in indiana, it looks like, with or without pence's endorsement or not. >> we'll see. tomorrow's one of those days where -- >> i'll take bobby knight any day. >> i'm sure you will. we'll see. what happens in indiana is definitely going to set the table for discussions for the weeks to come. thank you very much. kevin, good to have you on the show. jeffrey lord, as always, sir, as always. >> thank you. coming up, donald trump is going to discuss these issues on his own merits. he's going to be joining us here on "new day" live. you can watch and make your own judgments. john? >> chris, thanks so much. to democrats. senator bernie sanders making a big push for super delegates insisting they should back him instead of hillary clinton in states where he won. vowing to stay in the race now until those super delegates
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formally get to vote at the convention in july. cnn is's chris frates is live in indianapolis with more. good morning, chris. >> reporter: hey, good morning, john. yes, bernie sanders continues to campaign hard here in indiana trying to close that gap with hillary clinton, and win this nomination, although even he is now acknowledging that that is a long shot, and if you look at the math here, you start to understand why. he's got to win almost all of the delegates left in this race to clinch that nomination. he's calling on the super delegates in the states that he has won to support him, but even if he gets those democratic power brokers to switch sides, the math doesn't work out for him. look at the polls, not really any good news there, either. the latest nbc poll here in indiana has sanders trailing hillary clinton 50-46, and that might help explain why clinton isn't even campaigning here in indiana today. in fact, she's starting to focus on donald trump.
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>> the leading contender is the man who led the insidious birther movement to discredit the president's citizenship. we cannot let barack obama's legacy fall into donald trump's hands. [ applause ] >> reporter: now, donald trump firing back continuing to call clinton crooked hillary, and saying he's going to use some of the same lines of attack that bernie sanders has used in his primary in a general election. and, you know, that's not surprising, because, you know, he is going to continue to hit hillary clinton. bernie sanders defending that line of attack, though. saying that, you know, he will do anything and everything necessary to defeat donald trump and the republican nominee, whomever that is. the one thing he doesn't seem willing to do at this point is to get out of this race and clear the field for hillary clinton. he says he's in it until the end. he's staying in until june,
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alisyn. >> thanks for that update. more news to tell you about, because most public schools in detroit are closed this morning after the teachers' union told its members to call out sick. the edict coming one day after the school district informed the union it will be unable to pay its employees after june 30th. detroit public school officials calling on michigan lawmakers to pass a $715 million education reform package or all summer programs will be cancelled. a huge fire destroyed a 160-year-old church right here in new york city. the tragic fire took nearly 200 firefighters more than three hours to put out the flames. it happened in the serbian cathedral, the church destroyed on the holiest day for orthodox christians around the world as they celebrated easter. no serious injuries reported. the cause of the fire, still unknown. so some good news for the first family. first daughter malia obama will attend harvard university. but -- not until 2017. the white house not saying what she's going to do during what
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hillary clinton and bernie sanders in a statistical dead heat in indiana, one day ahead of tomorrow's primaries. sanders is vowing to stay in the race, even if he loses. he says it will be virtually impossible for clinton to get the number of pledged delegates needed to clinch the nomination before the convention. joining us to talk about this, host of cnn "smerconish," michael smerconish. >> good morning. >> talk about what happens if bernie sanders wins. they are tied in indiana now, if you count the margin of error. it's neck and neck. so if bernie sanders wins indiana, then does he have a fighting chance to stay in and get the nomination? >> well, he has a fighting chance to stay in, but not to get the nomination, and you heard in his remarks yesterday, alisyn. now he's really drilling down on
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the concept of super delegates being fundamentally unfair and undemocratic. but there's a bigger story here that needs to be told, which is, why are there super delegates? frankly, i think republicans in this cycle wish they had more super delegates because they exist against a populist outbreak. look at what happened to the democrats in 1972. mcgovern got shellacked. she said he need to give more power in a position who have run elections, know what it takes to win, and in this contest, they are an enormous buffer for hillary against bernie sanders. >> yes. >> ultimately she gets there, but on pledged delegates? that's the issue. >> look, you've heard donald trump echo that very same sentiment and he is, he and bernie are increasing people awareness. your vote you believe is so precious may not actually count as much as whatever the delegates, or super delegates, want to do. we've seen it on both sides.
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look at arizona. this is an issue that will be looked at for the rest of this campaign and beyond, because these candidates have raised it. >> if you're bernie sanders, what you say is, looking at fall polls. i run stronger against donald trump or any of the other democrats than does she. but i think there's a practical response to that, which is to say that even though he's run this campaign for a year, hillary clinton has really not gone after bernie sanders, and whether america in a general election is prepared for a self-described democratic socialist, i think there's a lot of doubt including doubt among the democratic intelligence, and why they're happy to have the super delegates give her the edge. >> look at bernie sanders's fund-raising. something shifted in the past month. he was doing gang busters in february and march, as you can see, and then in april, he was down, not half -- not 50% but a lot. okay? he was down to 25.8 million. so that shows, what, michael?
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>> i think it shows that, a sense of realism finally kicked in. i've been waiting for this to happen. interesting to see whether the crowds also begin to diminish, because up until now, i think they've been there and writing those $27 checks and showing up regardless of what the math looks like. now, alisyn, we're in the final stretch. this really is the 11th hour of the nomination process and it seems like, at least when it comes to writing checks, bernie supporters are saying, there's no way for him to get there. >> hmm. michael, i want to ask you about something happening this morning. hillary clinton is jumping in her xaso-called scooby van, not sow solve spooky mysteries but tour through appalachia, through west virginia and kentucky and ohio. she's going to talk about her economic policies and how to improve life there. there was a moment during a cnn town hall back in march where she talked about the demise of
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the coal industry. this is coal country where she's going. tell me if this will come back to haunt her. watch this. >> i'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean, renewable, in as the key into coal country. because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business. >> so what about -- is that a message of sort of reality that they need to hear? or is this a message they're going to reject? >> i think it's probably the former and not the latter. i don't think any fair person listening to that in context would say that hillary clinton is relishing the prospect of putting coal miners out of work. i think she was saying giving less dependence on fossil fuels, and natural consequence is some of these individuals need to be refocused on other careers, and i'm committed to the coal field industry. that's what she was saying. of course, it makes for a great
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sound bite to take that small snippet and play it. >> we're not trying to put it out of context. trying to gauge whether or not that is what voters are ready to hear when she hits coal country today. i hear you. they're looking for solutions. >> it's a hard message for people to accept. a little dose of realism is a good thing. >> there you go. michael smerconish, thank you so much. great to get your perspective. over to chris. >> all right. donald trump, what does he want out of indiana? he wants to win. more than that, he wants ted cruz gone. what would be his pitch to croods? if it goes donald trump's way in indiana? we're going to ask trump himself about why it's time for the party to get behind him.
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joining us now on the phone, the republican man in command, front-runner donald trump. mr. trump, can you hear us? >> i can. how are you, chris? >> good. good to have you this morning. a big day tomorrow, indiana. let me ask you. if it goes your way and you win
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the state, what is your best pitch to senator ted cruz to get out of the race? >> well, it's really the unity of the party. i think it's very important. we are going to win. polls are just coming out where i'm tied with hillary. one just came out where i'm ahead of hillary and i very started on hillary yet. we're starting to do really well, but i haven't focused on hillary at all, and yet we're really doing well, and i think it will be -- look, based on her record, what she's done, should be interesting but should be a republican one and really an easy one. we have to get together and unify. i think it's really important. >> he says, this guy is only going to be in the convention for one vote, if that. he believes he'll stop you from getting to 1,237. even if he doesn't, look at arizona, he says. i went in there's with my organization and we got the lion's share of delegates, even though the state went for trump, these delegates are going to be with me at the convention
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because they want me at the gop, not donald trump. your response? >> well, the voters don't want him. i'm leading by millions of votes. i'm also leading by hundreds of delegates, and i'm leading by just literally millions of votes, as you know. and by the time it ends in california, we'll have probably be leading by 5 million votes. i've already broken the record or very close to breaking the record, the all-time vote record and the bosses are trying to run it. it's a rigged party. it's a whole rigged situation. the bosses, like in arizona, the bosses, i win arizona in a landslide. i beat croouz so badly it's almt ridiculous and then the bosses have delegate. they have a crooked delegate system where they go in, try to get delegates to play games. tell you what, the voters wouldn't stand by it. when you win by millions of votes. i've been saying, it's a rigged system. the bosses want to pick whoever they want to pick. what's the purpose of going through the primary? so, you know, we have a lot of strength in that situation also.
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we've been winning a lot also, but honestly, it really should be about the votes, and if you look at delegates, i'm leading by hundreds of delegates, also. >> understood. at some point we'll put up the chart for people to see. the challenge for you seems to not solidify your base. you have a solid 40-plus percent of the party that is with you as you like to joke, you say i could say anything. these people would be with me, but it's the others. the people you're calling the party bosses. a lot of part of the faithful of your party, and then expanding beyond that, if you become the nominee and to the general election. that's why there's so much talk out the words, the language that you choose, and the harshness of the messages that often come across, whether it's the woman card, or it's saying china's raping the united states. this is the type of language that gives people pause. are you evolving at all in your thinking about what comes out of you on the trail? >> well, i think that, you know, i haven't heard anything negative, really recently. frankly, as far as china's
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concerned, everyone knows that's true, and it gets the point across. you know, hillary was talking about, she controls or handles men that get off the reservation. when actually she doesn't do a very good job with men to get off the reservation. if you look at her record. but the -- >> what does that mean? how does she not do a good job? explain that to me. >> i think i'm saying what people want to hear. i think i'm saying -- obviously i have a message out there that's getting through loud and clear. i'm doing very well with the voters. i'm winning by a lot, and if you look at new york, where you come from, you know, i got almost 62% of the vote. we have to remember, there's three candidates here. i'm running against three. when you get 62% of the vote, against one candidate, that's a lot. but, you know, we have three people here. for me to be breaking 50% all the time. so i think your numbers of wrong. i think that's whatting is now that we're down to a smaller number of candidates, i'm getting 50%, 60%, 70%.
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if you look at maryland. if you look at all of the states i won last weekend, i won five of them including delaware, rhode island, pennsylvania, maryland and connecticut. >> no. i understand your points, the numbers, i'm breaking 60% all the time and we have, you know, competing against two other people. >> right. but let's -- this isn't about the numbers. our numbers, you know are always spot-on in terms of analyzing it. i'm talking getting bigger than that, people within your party, questions about you and questions if you were to be the nominee. you said, clinton's statement that, i know how to deal with men who go off the reservation. you said two things about that. one, you said, no, she doesn't. she doesn't do well with those men. i want you to explain that. you also said something i thought was curious to fox yesterday. you said, i think hillary clinton saying that to me or about me is inappropriate. how can you find her saying that inappropriate, but saying that china's raping the u.s. is, you know, that's appropriate for you
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to say, that she's playing the woman card. you know, that that's appropriate for you to say but her saying she knows how to deal with men who go off the reservation. that's inappropriate? how do you say that. >> she has been taking a lot of heat for that statement. not from you. they do call it the clinton network, but she has taken from others a lot of heat having to do with that statement, and i think it's a very harsh statement. it's basically, you know, like, i can handle men. don't worry about me. i can handle men. if somebody said that, if i made that statement about women, they'd be front page headlines. >> yeah. you basically did. >> she talks about, i can handle men who get off the reservation, a very demeaning statement. i won't bring up the fact the indians have gone wild on that statement. you know that? the indians said that that statement is a disastrous statement, and they want a retraction. i'm not going to get into that, but that -- >> you just did get into it. i had not really heard that. >> i'm not bringing that up. i'm saying that is big league. >> you did just bring it up. >> i think it's a very nasty
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statement to men, and if i made that estimate, it would be a big, big story. >> but what i'm saying is, maybe it should be, though, right? when you say she's playing the woman card, that's all she's got, is being a woman. that doesn't play well. but it's just -- >> no. oh, no, no, no. somebody said, i wonder, was that good or bad that trump said that? let me tell you something, she's playing -- are you ready? are you listening? she is playing the woman card, and if she didn't play the woman card she would have no chance whatsoever of winning, and she would have absolutely no chance of winning. she's playing the woman card, and i watch her speeches, and i watch what she said, and we're right there, i'm making a list of many, many times where it's all about her being a woman, and frankly, she doesn't do very well with women and look what happened recently and over the weekend and over last week, over the last two weeks including new york, i won with women by vast, vast majorities. i mean, i was way, way up with
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women. far above anybody else in the exit polls of the's recent elections. so i think we're doing fine. look, women want strength. they want security. they want a strong military. they want to know our country is being corrected. they want to know about women's issues, women's health issues. i'm going to do a better job for women than hillary can do. >> what do you make of the protests that were in los angeles yesterday where you had all of these workers there out in the streets, and they were carrying this big balloon with you like a thanksgiving day-type balloon of you as an effigy holding a kkk mask? those are workers, a lot of them are latino. in california, of course, a really important state. what do you say to those people? >> i saw nothing other than what i did see is where i was the other day where you had some protests, and frankly -- >> it's on your screen right now. >> i'm in indiana right now. and i was here yesterday, too.
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where we had -- oh, now i see it up on your screen. i did not see that. gee, i hope i look better than that. i did not see that jed. >> whyesterday. >> what's your meg to them? >> i did see 33,000 people show up to my rally in costa mesa. i did see tress crowds at every rally i had three days ago, or two days ago, in california. we had 31,000 people. we broke a record, and we brought out the families of people whose children and wives and, you know, husbands were killed by illegal immigrants. viciously, violently killed by illegal immigrants that came into this country, totally illegally, without documentation, and we had 31,000 people, and it was a love fest. there was not one hand raised in protest. 31,000 people. so i think you're reading the equation wrong, actually. now, i see --
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>> i'm just asking about what happened in the street. giving you an opportunity -- >> if i wanted to, i could have a much bigger parade than that. believe me. a lot of the people -- i can only tell you the people that showed up, because i didn't see that. the people that showed up, a lot of the people that showed up to protest the other day, these were -- thugs, and, you saw what they did to the police car. and they wear masks and the police told me, these are thugs. they show up to different rallies. they wear masks. >> there's definitely an element of that. we've been in those crowds. >> -- they wear masks. >> there are outside agitatorag even if not outside, anybody doing what's happening on the screen right now is a criminal. that's all it is. what's taking place in orange county, protesting or not before, you're now a criminal. >> right. i'm getting crowds like that, like i've never seen before. you know that. you reported about it. you had your helicopter flying over the stadium. >> your popularitisy not in question. what i'm saying is, what do you say to those people that aren't in the trump tent? the people who are in those
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streets, who are workers, who are in this country, who had that effigy? what do you say. >> i do want to get them in my tent. i will tell you, i'm going to create jobs, i'm going to bring jobs back to this country. our country does not have jobs. we have a phony unemployment rate of 5%, and it has to do with the fact that they use that statistic in order to make the politicians look good. the rate we really have is close to 20% maybe over 20% or you wouldn't have the kind of crowds they have. i mean, sure, they like my stance on the border and the military and everything else, but it still is about jobs and the economy. and people look for a job and they have to quit after four, five months. they stop looking for a job and they're considered statistically employed, and it's ridiculous. no. i think that a lot of these people are going to join my campaign. i think a lot of the bernie sanders young people are going to join my campaign and i see it all the time. >> what can you say to -- >> nobody's stronger on trade than me. our country is being ripped off by china and by every country on trade.
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horribly ripped off. >> let me talk to you for a second. >> i think bernie sanders people are going to join my campaign, because, frankly, the democrats have treated -- they have treated them very, very badly. the democrats have really treated bernie sanders and all of his followers unbelievably badly. it's a rigged system. just like the republicans have a rigged system. i have a rigged system. i mean, i'm winning in the votes and every time you win a state, you have to go fight for all of these different things. it's a rigged system that's run by the bosses. >> what do you them these people whether they are the berners or the people in the streets out there? in los angeles. the workers. when you say, you want to be with me. nobody's strong are on trade. nobody's going to bring back jobs here. just give me two things that you can tell those people as to how and why that's true. >> well, the two thing are jobs. okay? you mentioned, jobs. we're going to bring jobs back. >> how? >> and do something else. we're going to keep jobs in this country. >> how? >> now prepare your air
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conditioner and think move to mexico, make air conditioner send them back here. no jobs. >> how? >> and hurt our country. that's not going to happen. >> how? >> the other thing -- how? very simple. we're going to put, we're going to make them pay. there's going to be consequences. you're not just going to take your company, move to mexico, make air conditioner, sell them in our country without consequences. the consequences are tariff or tax. if you don't do that you'll lose all your businesses, because our businesses are moving out of our country, and they're moving out fast. you know, i look -- i won new york state by a landslide. i won everything by a landslide. and every single place i go to, i almost don't need -- you know, i go, give me the statistics on new york state or give me the statistic on pennsylvania, or maryland. it's all the same. i don't even need the statistics anymore. it's, manufacturing is gone. the percentages aren't different. 45% 50% of manufacturing is gone. i almost don't have to ask the people to give me statistics because after looking at 20 of
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them in a row, they're almost all the same. other than some are doing worse than others, and new york state they got clobbered because the jobs have left. nafta has been a disaster for our country. nafta has to be totally gotten rid of. something has to happen with nafta. what happened, nafta, signed by bill clinton, a total disaster for the united states. like, an economic disaster, almost like we've never had before. it is wiped out big sections of manufacturing in this country and moved to other places. all of that will change with me, and what i tell people is, you're going to have jobs. it's very simple. now, in addition to that we're going to have a strong military. we're going to have so many other things. strong borders. stop the drugs from coming across our borders. all's things, build a wall and mexico's paying for the wall, by the way, in case you have any questions, but these are things that i will do that nobody else is going to be able to do. no politician is going to be able to do it, because they're controlled by people and because
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they don't have the competence to do t. let me ask you something else. not just the wall. remember, you have to fill in all the tunnels also. because the tunnels are for more of a traffic concern in terms of things getting here illegal. >> do you e no how easy that is for a person's competence? i mean, fill in the tunnels, chris, in all fairness. >> it's really hard. >> getting people to fill in the tunnels. >> i'm actually heading down there to a place where a lot originate. it's a bigger task, but it's something we need leadership for, no question. did you watch any of white house correspondents' dinner? have any take on what the president said about you? >> i did. >> was it funny? >> i thought it was fine. i thought he was fine. >> why didn't you tweet about it? i was shocked. >> i thought he did an okay job. >> why didn't you tweet? i don't know if people watch. play a small clip what he said at the dinner and get your response. here's what the president said. >> although i am a little hurt he's not here tonight. we had so much fun the last time. and it is surprising.
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you've got a room full of reporters, celebrities, cameras, and he says, no. is this dinner too tacky for the donald? they say donald lacks the foreign policy experience to be president. but in fairness, he has spent years meeting with leaders from around the world in sweden, miss argentina. miss a miss assess zerbaijan? >> response? >> i have heard it before. i deal with people around the world. we have hundreds of deals negotiated all over the world by my company, and i deal with presidents, and i deal with prime ministers. i deal with everybody. i probably have more experience than virtually anybody looking at this office, and i make money. i've made a lot of money doing it. i built a tremendous company,
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and made a lot of money. >> you think you have more experience dealing with -- >> i think he's having fun and joking and i think it's fine. i thought it was fine. tell you the reason i didn't go, if you have a second. i never really expressed this. the time i went he went after me and then the comedian went after me. honestly, i had a great time. >> a great time? you didn't look like you were having a great time. 2011 this was for you at home. >> i had a great time. the president was joking. i told that to the press, did you like it? i said i had a great time. he did well, everything. had a fantastic thing. next thing, donald trump had a miserable time. felt humiliated. i didn't feel humiliateds, i had a great time. the press is very dishonest and therefore it's easiest not to go. >> that's why you didn't go? you felt it wouldn't be reported accurately? >> no. i felt i would have a great time. i would have loved to have gone. i felt i would have a great time if i go, but no matter how great a time i knew they obviously would be talking about me.
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no matter how great a time i would have, wouldn't matter. they would say, donald trump was humiliated. donald trump had a miserable time. you know? that's what they did last time. i had really a great time. hey, look. you had the president of the united states spending much of his speech on me. and i even said to my wife, this is or the of amazing. the president's devoting so much of his time to me. amazing. i had a good time and he was very respectful. it was good. but the next day -- i told that to the press. i had a great time. the next day, every paper. "washington post," "new york times," they said, donald trump felt humiliated, he had a terrible time. i said, they are so dishonest. the one thing, the one group that lies more than lyin' ted cruz is the press. the media. they really are bad. they really are dishonest and that's why their poll numbers with people in the public are so low. they are so totally dishonest. >> well, certainly do you feel like that when you don't like what they say. when you do like what the media says you go out of your way to
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say -- >> i'm a big boy. when i do something that's off i don't mind being criticized but they make things up. they literally make up things that you said. they cut you off in half sentences. so it's a totally different meaning from what you give. >> let me give you a chance to clean up one thing before i go. >> i've gotten used to it but the press is so dishonest especially the political press. like just about -- nothing i've ever seen, can compete with it. it is -- a disgrace. what happened. >> let me give you a chance to clean something up here before you hear the reactions to it. you said, in reaction to the president's joke, yeah, it's funny, but i actually deal with a lot of people around the world. i have nor more experience than than with anybody with their eyes on this job. there's going to be immediate pushback from hillary clinton saying i was secretary of state. traveling more than any secretary of state in history dealing with world leaders on the highest level. donald trump says he has the same experience that i do? you're going to get pushback on
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that. do you want to revise the statement? >> are you creating -- let me tell you i'm not gotting pushback? something i said ten seconds ago? you're creating the phony pushback. >> hold on a second. you hillary clinton dealt with other countries, too. one thing i give her credit for, she did a lot of traveling. look at the results. syria, benghazi. look at her results. all of those results are terrible. i've made a fortune going out of this country. i've made tremendous amounts of money dealing outside of this country. look at what happened with hillary clinton. what does she get? with all the traveling she did, look at the deals we have. then look at obama with the iran deal and all these other terrible deals. so, you know, don't tell me about that. there is no pushback. i have done a lot of traveling. i've done a lot of deals outside of this country. i deal at the highest level . and that's good. as far as i'm concerned i think i have great experience.
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all right. you just heard from republican front-runner, donald trump. let's discuss it with cnn commentator michael smerconish. what jumped out at you? >> the process being crooked or rigged or the bosses are out to get donald trump. i think at this stage it's increasingly likely that he gets to 1237. i think passing 1,000 delegates on his way to 1100 and now the poll that you've discussed where he's up by 15 in indiana makes it increasingly likely he gets there. but this constant criticism of the party role in the same way that bernie sanders, allison, as we discussed, is critical of super delegates, raises this question. if you're a party leader and you think you're headed to get shellacked in the fall, if you're head eed toward a train
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wreck with your nominee, what are you supposed to do? roll over or stand up and say, wait a minute. we've been here before. we want to win this thing. maybe we should re-evaluate it. >> i think donald trump keeps saying that because he thinks it's working. there is some evidence to that. people hate the john kasich/ted cruz agreement there, see that as trying to rig the system. "the new york times" story where they were talking to people in a cruz campaign office, they were getting pushback from voters saying i'm not sure about ted cruz. he's trying to rig the system. it's beginning to resonate with voters. i don't think he thinks he can change anything right now but it's a winning argument. >> the clumsy way in which kasich and cruz tried to pull that off played right into donald trump's hands. as he said they can't even negotiate a deal like that. to ask each of them, meaning cruz and kasich, is to get two different answers as to what, if
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anything, was negotiated. i agree with you. i saw the same survey which says, by the way, in indiana, most likely, republican voters want the candidate to gets the most votes to end up with the nomination, regardless of whether he's at 1237. there is a defensive argument for super delegates on both sides playing the role. >> every state we are do the exit, i haven't seen one that does the outcome otherwise. whoever wins the primary should get the nomination, whether they're close to 1237 or not. i think that this issue, more than others -- donald trump will say it himself. he just said it on our air. i tell people what they want to hear. you can argue all day whether that's real leadership or not, is it demagoguery or is it -- that will be part of this general election if he gets the nomination. michael, he's right about the process. these state laws are weird.
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it seems, at a minimum, they're tilted in favor of the party establishment as opposed to the voters going to the polls. is it the analysis of it as simple as that? >> if you -- chris, if you could have asked in 1972 democratic voters, do you think that the nominee should be someone for whom you voted, they would have all said absolutely. of course it should be. and then look what happened to mcgovern. what i'm saying is, i get it. it's in his advantage that it exists so he can say it's fixed. i'm trying to make a political science argument that there is some rationality for delegates on both sides. to trump's point, he has a great ear. he has a gifted ear. he knows exactly what he's doing, test these lines and those things that seem seat of the pants really are not. i've come to realize that. >> lot of body parts mentioned during some of this. chris asked him also about his experience with, you know,
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foreign policy, international relations, and donald trump said that he has lots of international deals and that's sort of what gives him the credibility to become the president. well, robert gates, former secretary of defense, was on one of the sunday shows yesterday, and said those are not the same things. let me play that for you. >> based on the speech, you have somebody who doesn't understand the difference between a business negotiation and a negotiation with sovereign powers. he doesn't listen to people. he thinks he is the smartest person in the room. i've worked for a lot of different presidents. one thing they've all had in common -- >> what do you think about that line of argument? it's not the same. >> i think that secretary gates is making the point that there's
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a difference of going into a sovereign state and turning a profit, which is admirable, and going into a foreign state and negotiating some type of a relationship that we need for our nation's best interest. they're not exactly the same thing. >> right. >> to trump's credit, he has experience around the globe but it's not state department type. >> he was teasing me, saying i was creating the pushback when he only said it 10 seconds ago but because of what was said by gates and others on the sunday talk shows, him saying that he has experience in the foreign sphere will come back at him and come back at him quickly. but we'll see how much that means to the voters in indiana and beyond. michael smerconish, thank you. we're following a lot of news. let's get right to it. >> if we win indiana, it's over. >> i'm going to do everything i can to get the nomination wrapped up. >> that is a tough road, but it is not an impossible road. >> behind the donald trump mask is hillary clinton.
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>> this hateful talk, enough. enough! >> she is playing the woman c d card. >> first american prisoner ever sent to the camp. i'm working eight hours a day, hard labor. you may know my name but you haven't heard full story until now. the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden. >> the helicopters were about to actually land. one of the helicopters got damaged. this is not an ideal strike. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. ahead of tomorrow's all-important indiana primary, trump insisting a lot of things. the main headline is, hey, what happened in arizona with these delegates, saying they'll be for
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cruz in the second round of a vote at a convention, it's just more proof that this system is rigged. and he says despite that, the republican front-runner, he says this nomination is his if he wins tomorrow. we'll give you more of the interview that covered a lot of different topics in just a minute. and we'll talk with a panel of republican and democratic women about what they heard donald trump say and the woman card as well as many other issues. we'll be with you shortly. on the democratic side, bernie sanders making a push for super delegates in the state where he won, insisting they should back him instead of hillary clinton. he is vowing to stay in the race until the july convention, when those super delegates formally vote. we have the 2016 race covered only the way cnn can. let's begin with phil mattingly. hi, phil. >> hey, alisyn. for donald trump, dual track right now, first, win the nomination. second, hone his attacks in on hillary clinton, his presumed
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opponent in a general election. we've heard it over and over and something he continued even this morning, going after hillary clinton again on twitter. something we've started to see very regular, saying crooked hillary clinton said she is used to, quote, dealing with men who got off reservation. actually, she has done poorly with such men. if you talk to trump advisers, this is something that will happen regularly. first it's all about indiana. for ted cruz and the cruz campaign this is an area where cruz has to win. 24 hours left of campaigning, cruz and his team plan to blitz the state, cruz pushing back on that, saying they've got closer polling that they're looking at right now. still, cruz has to make up a lot of ground going forward. if he doesn't, trump secure this is nomination sooner rather than later. >> to recap what he said in the interview, we'll show it to you right now. here are the big ticket items to listen for in this upcoming segment. cruz has to get out to unify the
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party, that this system is rigged and that's what's going on with this delegate selection. that's his concern about the convention. he talked about the white house correspondents dinner and the president, and who is inappropriate, him or hillary clinton. here you go. i think it's a very harsh statement. it's basically like, i can handle men. don't worry about me. i can handle men. if somebody said that -- if i made that statement about women, there would be front page headlines. >> you basically did. >> she talks about i can handle men who get off the reservation. >> you basically did. >> i won't even bring up the fact that the indians have gone wild on that statement, you know that, right? the indians have said that statement is a disastrous statement and they want a retraction. i'm not going to get into that. >> you just did get into that. i haven't really heard that. >> i'm not bringing that up. >> you did just bring it up. >> i think it's a very nasty statement to men. if i made that statement, it
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would be a big, big story. >> what i'm saying is, maybe it should be, though, right? when you say she's playing the woman card, that's all she's got is being a woman, that doesn't play well. >> no, somebody said i wonder, was that good or bad that trump said that? let me tell you something. she's playing the -- are you ready? are you listening? she's playing the woman card. card she would have no chance whatsoever of winning. and she would have absolutely no chance of winning. she is playing the woman card. and i watch her speeches and i watch what she said and right now we're making a list of many, many times where it's all about her being a woman. and, frankly, she doesn't do very well with women. if you look at what happened recently over the weekend and over last week, the last two weeks, including new york, i won with women by vast, vast majorities. i mean, i was way, way up with women far above anybody else in the exit polls of the recent
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election. so, i think we're doing fine. look, women want strength. they want security. they want to have strong military. they want to know our country is being protected. they want to know about women's issues, women's health issues. i'm going to do a better job for women than hillary can do. >> what do you make of the protests that were in los angeles yesterday where you had all these workers there out in the streets and they were carrying this big balloon with you, like a thanksgiving day type balloon of you as an effigy, holding a kkk mask? those are workers, a lot of them latino. that's in california, which will be a really important state. what do you say to those people? >> i saw nothing other than what i did see is where i was -- the other day where you had some protests. >> on your screen right now. >> and we had 30 -- i'm in indiana right now. i was here yesterday, too, where we had -- i see it now up on
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your screen. i did not see that. i hope i look better than that. i did not see that yesterday. >> what's your message to them? >> i did see -- chris, i did see 31,000 people show up to my rally in costa mesa. i did see tremendous crowds at every rally i had three days ago or two days ago in california. we had 31,000 people. we broke the record. and we brought out the families of people whose children and wives and, you know, husbands were killed by illegal immigrants. viciously, violently killed by illegal immigrants that came into this country totally illegally, without documentation and we had 3,000 people, and it was a love fest. >> what do you say to those people who aren't in the trump tent, the people who are in the streets who are workers, who are in this country? >> i do want to get them in my tent. i will tell you, i'm going to create jobs.
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i'm going to bring jobs back to this country. our country does not have jobs. we have a phony unemployment rate of 5%. and it has to do with the fact that they use that statistic in order to make the politicians look good. the rate we really have is close to 20%, maybe over 20%, or you wouldn't have the kind of crowds i have. >> okay. let's talk about everything we just heard in the trump interview, and the battle for indiana tomorrow. we want to bring in trump supporter and talk radio host for kabc john phillips and new jersey chairman for ted cruz, steve lonigan. steve, thanks for being in studio. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> let me ask you about one of his main points, that this whole primary season is a rigged system and it's rigged by the party bosses. >> whining about that for months now but if you look at the state where i come from, he has ten delegates on his party state and it's delegated by party bosses. he talks out of both sides of
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his mouth. the remarkable similarity between donald trump and hillary clinton. they both support universal health care supported by taxpayer. he supports obama's individual mandate, more gun control on some very popular firearms. and he supports big government. him and hillary have -- i think hillary is probably better on foreign policy than donald trump is. >> john, this is a line of attack we have been hearing from lots of cruz supporters, including cruz and his running mate, carly fiorina, that donald trump and hillary clinton are two sides of the same coin. in fact, they have a new ad about it. let me play a portion of that for you. >> donald trump and hillary clinton are two sides of the same coin. both support raising taxes. both supported bill clinton's nationwide ban on popular firearms and both support letting transgender men go in little girls' bathrooms. >> they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate.
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>> trump and hillary. do we really want two big government liberals on the ballot in november? >> john, how effective do you think that is? >> well, not at all. the only people that seem to hate ted cruz more than his colleague notice senate are the voter. he has lost six elections in a row, losing in indiana, in all the polls in the states that are voting in the upcoming primaries. i don't think this will be an effective line of attack. also, in a strange turn of events, it also helps donald trump because it shows him as the person that's most in hillary's head. it shows you the person that hillary thinks she's going to run against. this is a match-up that's very dangerous for hillary clinton. you were just showing those videos of the protests out on the street where people are having these caricatures of donald trump where he's a clansman or nazi or whatever. he will have to prove to the public he's not adolf hitler, which is easy to do. if hillary clinton is going to
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win the nomination, she has to prove she's not hillary clinton, which will be much harder to do. >> i hear you, steve, as john is talking. ted cruz is not the most popular guy among his colleagues in the senate. isn't that true? >> it's peculiar that he says that donald trump is out to prove he's not adolf hitler. if i said something like that, i would have been attacked. it's interesting that ted cruz, endorsed by mike pence in i indiana, pete which will, attacked by the poster boy, john boehner. cruz against boehner in the failed establishment in washington, d.c. now we go back to the original premise. on the key issues, donald trump and hillary clinton are on two -- as you said, two sides of the same coin. they both come out of new york state, the northeast. mr. phillips just said the last six primaries. the northeast is not going to anoint the next republican nominee. now the rest will have their say. >> indiana is tomorrow. i want to stick with you one
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more second, steve. indiana should be cruz country. strong base of christian conservatives he should be playing well with. in terms of polls he's not doing as well as donald trump. why do you think cruz is not catching fire there? >> campaigning hard across indiana right now, ted, heidi, and my good friend, glenn beck, and mike pence, who actually made a commercial for senator cruz. cruz will outperform all expectations. he normally does. indiana is not the stepping sto stone. donald trump will not get to 1237. him and hillary clinton are identical on all the key issue. >> john, your response? >> everything that the cruz people have predicted has turned out not to be true. they said donald trump had a ceiling of 40%. he came in north of 60% in the state of new york, north of 50% in the midatlantic states. they said ted cruz would clean up. as the field consolidated, ted
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cruz was going to leapfrog donald trump. none of it happened. all indications are that donald trump will beat ted cruz in indiana. when you're behind, you're an underdog, you not only have to win in the states you're supposed to win in, you have to win in states you're not supposed to win in. he's supposed to win in indiana. he's down there, which votes the week after that. he's down in oregon, california. this thing is over. ted cruz and his supporters are the only ones who don't know it yet. >> polls have been wrong as we've seen in this primary. we'll be watching closely to see what happens tomorrow. john phillips, steve lonegan, thank you. let's go to john. >> thank you, alisyn. insisting that delegates should back him in states that he won. live in indianapolis for us, chris frates.
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good morning, chris. >> reporter: trying to close this gap with hillary clinton and win this nomination. even he is acknowledging that's a long shot. take a look at the math, you can start to understand why. bernie sanders needs almost all the delegates left at stake in this election to win that nomination. here is what he said about it just yesterday. >> that is admittedly, i do not deny it for a second, a tough road to climb. it is not an impossible road to climb. and we intend to vofight for evy vote in front of us and every delegate remaining. >> reporter: even if those democratic power brokers amass work out for bernie sanders, the polls not very good for the vermont senator. latest poll here in indiana, he's trailing clinton 50 to 46%.
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that could be part of the reason why hillary clinton is not even campaigning here in indiana today. she turning her fire on to donald trump, taking shots at him for inciting violence at his rallies and trump responding in kind, saying that hillary clinton is crooked, and saying he's going to take a lot of the avines vines of argument that bernie sanders used against hillary clinton. everything, it seems, other than get out of this race early to clear the field for hillary clinton, sanders says he's taking this all the way to the convention, guys? >> chris, as you know, that sanders belief by taking it all the way he makes the party as strong as it can be for the general election. appreciate the coverage, as always, my friend. here are some of the facts of the situation surrounding this
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election. at least five police officers are recovering from injuries at a seattle protest. nine protesters were arrested after rocks, cans of spray paint and even molotov cocktails were lodged at police. mayor and police chief are condemning the violence, of course. cruising into history. in just minutes, you can see it right there. carnival cruise ship will become the first u.s. ship to dock in cuba in decades. so beautiful. you can see it on the horizon. some 700 passengers are on board there. before it left, protesters in miami tried to stop the ship from sailing. restoration of diplomatic relations between the two countries. >> they do not have the
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just to remind you, to this day, kenneth bae remains the longest-held prisoner in north korea since the korean war, nobody has been held there longer than kenneth bae, 15 years of hard labor, accused of trying to take down the government. now he's talking about this experience in a new book "not forgotten: the true story of my imprisonment in north korea." he joins us now, his first live interview on tv. this is the easy part. i can't believe how long it's been since you got home. you said about a year and a half. is that right? >> that's right. >> did you think this day would ever come? >> i certainly hoped so when i was in north korea, that some day i would be able to come home and celebrate with friends and family that had been playing and agreeing for my release. >> your family was so nervous, the state department was so frozen at times in terms of what
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it could do. how much of that were you aware of? >> time to time i was informed by the u.s. ambassador that my family is working tirelessly, but then i wouldn't hear for months at a time. it was wait and see what happened. >> and months at a time -- >> nothing. nothing. >> i don't want to give away the book. there's so much detail in there about what hard labor mountain, what your life meant. give us a sense of what life was like therefore day, what was hard on your body, what was hard on your mind and your heart. >> i was the first american ever sent to hard labor in north decreea. i had to work 6:00 am to 9:00 at night six days a week, farming labor, carrying rock and shoveling coal and all those
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things that was physically demanding and difficult, especially because i had back problems and different issues i had before even imprisonment. living one day at a time. >> they would tell you that you're never going home? >> one prosecutor would come to me and say no one remembers you. you're forgotten by people, your government. you won't be going home any time soon. you would be will be 60 before you go home. >> what would that do to your head? >> obviously it was very difficult to take it in. i was still holding on to the promise that it was from when i was praying to god that he would be my rescuer and the u.s.
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government would do everything possible to bring me home. i was holding on to the promise. >> so, there was all of this movement going on from your family. then dennis rodman got into the mix. how much were you aware of what happened, what he said, what he did? >> not until a couple of weeks later when i saw your show in 2014, i believe. and i was told by the prosecutor that dennis rodman made a comment and made national "headline news" and that i was given papers to show what happened with the interview. >> we'll play people that remember this, something i've been trying to forget for two years. here is a portion of what dennes rodman was saying about kenneth bae back then, and his conversation trip to north korea at the time.
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>> do you understand what kenneth bae did? >> you tell me. >> no, no, no. you tell me. why is he held captive? >> they haven't released any charges. [ bleep ]. >> i don't give a rat's ass what the hell you think. i'm saying to you, look at this guy there, look at him. >> don't use it as an excuse for the behavior you're putting on yourself. >> they came here -- >> you were basically saying that kenneth bae did something wrong. we don't even know what the charges are. >> what sense did you make of that situation? what did you think that he was suggesting that you had done? >> i believe that, you know -- i believe that he was -- maybe he
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was upset about something else. he did apologize to our country. >> do you think he was convince bid things from his friends in north korea that maybe he didn't understand himself? >> there's no way knowing that. i want to thank dennis rodman for being a catalyst for my release. because of his rant, the media attention on my plight was increased. if i meet him some day, i want to say thank you for what he has done that really brought attention, international attention for my plight. >> so, kenneth bae thanks dennis rodman, even though he was making these dangerous allegations? because at least it brought attention to the situation? >> all together it worked out for my release. i'm grateful for him for trying out for my release. >> we have a lot of dreams for your life and what you want to do. how often in the night and when you wake up in the morning do you still need to check and realize where you are? >> i'm thankful every day. i'm grateful for so many people
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that was involved in trying to get me home. it was unreal just to see that i'm actually sitting in the studio, talking to you. just 735 days in north korea was long enough. but i'm thankful. >> kenneth bae, a day that many people thought would never come. i'm happy that it did. >> all right. thank you. >> good luck going forward and the best of your family. >> thank you very much for all the coverage you've done for our family. i really appreciate it, and cnn. >> alisyn? >> chris, great interview. here is a story you want to stick around for. punished for reporting rape. how one university responded to two female students after they reported being victims of sexual assault. that's next. question, are my teeth yellow? ...have you tried the tissue test? ugh, yellow... what do you use? crest whitestrips crest 3d whitestrips whiten... 25 times better than a leading whitening toothpaste i passed the tissue test. oh yeah. crest whitestrips are the way to whiten
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brigham young university after several young women say they are being punished after reporting being raped. two of those young women join us
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now. ladies, thank you so much for being here. your stories are pretty incredible. and i want to have you walk us through them. >> it happened off campus and by a student not at byu. you went to police and reported the rape. then what did you hear from your school? >> so, i reported my rape in the end of september and i reported directly to the police and about a month, like two months later i received an e-mail from the byu honor code office. and it just simply said something along the line of we need to meet. and i called them. and i was trying to understand what the problem was. and they would not tell me. so, i met with them. i actually met with the title nine office, not the honor code office. and when i came in, they told me that they had received a police
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report of my rape and they refused to tell me how they had obtained it. >> i also have a portion of the note that they sent you, that your school said we have received information that you have been a victim of behavior that is addressed in the university sksual misconduct policy. we have also received information that you have engaged in behavior that violates the byu honor code. you, by being a victim of a rape, violated their honor code? how does that work? >> well, all of their honor code allegations come directly from the 20-page police report that they receive d -- we had to subpoena byu to find out how they got the police report.
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my rapist had received a copy of the report and given it to his friend who was a sheriff. sheriff thought i deserved punishment for telling people his friend had raped me and took it directly to the honor code office. >> so, maddie, when this safe haven, this place that you have gone to as your university that is supposed to be educating you, when you heard from them that you were the subject of sort of this honor code investigation, how did you feel? >> i still feel incredibly betrayed and revictimized because, i mean, i don't know how many byu officials have read my police report and instead of offering me help and services, like they're supposed to, they only said we need to investigate you. and the man who raped me is not a student. i'm the only one under investigation.
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>> madeline, your story is similar, yet different from maddie's. you say you were sexually assaulted in 2014 when you were a freshman. did you report it to your school, to byu? >> yeah. so, i started off by going to the women's resources office. because i wasn't sure like what police department i would go to or how i would even go about reporting anything. i figured okay, like i'll talk to them. they were the ones who said you have to go to title ix and walked with me down the hallway and had me report there. i did report to my school. >> then what happened? what was the response you got from the title ix office? that's the place designated to investigate sexual assault on campus. >> at first, everything seemed really great. they were listening to my story. i was like really excited that they were going to be helpful. they did offer me some services. i went to counseling there and it was really good. they didn't tell me what they were doing or if they contacted
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the guy that assaulted me and there was sort of this silence. i finally got ahold of their policies to like start reading through and see what was actually going on and what rules they were following. it was really hard to get answers to my questions about those policies. nobody wanted to tell me thingsthings things or talk to me. >> maddie, do you feel you got justice by taking the route that you did, by reporting it to your school? sorry, madeline. i'm sorry, madeline, do you feel that you got justice? >> i feel like i didn't necessarily. the thing was, my school couldn't really give me justice. the guy who assaulted me wasn't a byu student in my case. doing an investigation, i was the only one being investigated. there was not -- there wasn't really any justice to be had through the school. >> here is what the school says. let me read it to both of you. our goal in every situation is to give students the support that they need and safeguard
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their educational environment. when a student reports a sexual assault, the primary focus is on the victim's safety and well-being under the title ix policy. the victim of a sexual assault will never be referred to the honor code office for being a victim of sexual assault, a report of sexual assault will always be referred to the byu title ix office. maddie, what do you think of that statement? >> it's not accurate. you know, it's clear that both madeline and i were referred to the honor code office for being victims of sexual assault. any and all allegations they have geps me come from a police report of a rape. i don't know how direct you could get. >> you are not going to school at the moment. why? >> i have an ongoing criminal
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trial for my rape so i am a primary witness and i could not talk about details of my rape. byu would not accept that. they said until i come in and participate in the investigation against myself, i can't register or enroll in any future classes. >> clearly, something is wrong. maddie and madeline, we appreciate you coming forward and talking about this. we will follow your stories until the completion and figure out how the system can be fixed there. thank you so much, ladies. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> let's go to john. >> alisyn, thank you so much. the stunning raid that happened five years ago today, president obama is now talking about what it took to make it happen in an exclusive cnn report next. and ticks. but since he can't... you rely on frontline plus.
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five years now since osama bin laden was killed in a raid by u.s. special forces in pakistan. the cnn exclusive that airs tonight on ac 360, president obama talked to cnn's peter
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bergen about what transpired to kill the world's most wanted terrorist. watch this. >> well, we came in here at the point where the helicopters were about to actually land. it's here where we observed, for example, that one of the helicopters got damaged in the landing. >> and what were you thinking? >> i was thinking this is not an ideal start. look, we were all worried. the good news was it didn't crash. our guys were able to extract themselves. the bad news was that the helicopter itself had been damaged. and this is an example, though, of the kind of meticulous planning that had been done. even though we had the best helicopter operators possible, despite the fact that they had
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practiced this multiple times, we couldn't account for heat where it may be rising. >> that's remarkable detail, walking in the room and seeing the helicopter crash almost right away. second of all the mock-ups with the helicopter, training and the fact that heat may have been responsible for that crash. >> you know, they rehearsed everything completely. one thing they didn't rehearse completely was the compound was surrounded by an 18-foot concrete wall. they didn't have time to build an 18-foot concrete wall. they had a wire fence in the rehearsals. and so with the temperature of the heat that night and the slightly different kind of setup, this created something called settling with power, where the helicopter basically -- it's own rotor wash pushes it downward. essentially you're in a controlled crash if you know what you're doing. you could actually crash if you don't know what you're doing. >> what if osama bin laden hadn't been there? >> one option -- one of the o
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options they had was go in, bin laden's not there. leave. whoever was there was trying to keep a low profile and pakistanis weren't going to make a fuss about americans coming in without them knowing. >> 40%, 60%, 80%. in a way, they're misleading. he's either there or not there. when you make the decision you don't have the luxury of saying he's only 40% there. you have to just -- you find out when you get there if he's there or not. >> what about pakistan, how concerned were they about the possible blowback from pakistan? >> military academy a mile away from bin laden's house. pakistani police around there. as far as pakistanis are concerned there's an invasion going on and they don't know who these people are. they're more concerned about s.e.a.l.s being taken hostage,
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killed or whatever. luckily the pakistanis didn't have enough time to react. >> would they? would they have engaged with the pakistanis? >> there was a plan to fight out. president obama was pretty clear, we need -- and admiral mccraven, who was the architect of the raid, they put in backup helicopters and quick reaction force so if it came to a firefight they would have the ability to basically get out and have the firefight at the same time. >> backup plans to their backup plans to their backup plans. >> yeah. >> amazingly, luckily, they didn't have to use any of them. peter bergen, thank you so much. remarkable look inside the situation room and remarkable special tonight. join us for a special tonight "quee w "we got him" 8:00 eastern only on cnn. what do our panel of women voters think of donald trump's interview on "new day" this morning? we'll talk to them next.
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live there. "come in, come in" when you airbnb, you have your own home. make your bed. cook. you know, the stuff you normally do. ♪ wherever you go... ♪ don't go there. ♪ live there. ♪ even if it's just for a night. ♪ women want strength. they want security. they want to have strong military. they want to know that our country is being protected. they want to know about women's issues, women's health issues. i'm going to do a better job for women than hillary can do. >> what women want, according to donald trump. is he right about that? let's bring back our female voter panel. ladies, thanks so much for sticking around. great to talk to all of you. you heard him. women want strength, national
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security, they want women's health issues. is he right about that? >> absolutely. we want those things. but we also want to give an example of leadership that is respectful, that is kind, that is thoughtful, that is nonbullying. >> so, you don't think he provides that? >> absolutely not. as a teacher, if i had a student behaving in my class the way that i see donald trump behave, the name calling, the disrespect, the -- >> yeah, we get it. >> and we go on and on. that would call for a serious conversation with a parent about a student's behavior. >> let me ask mariceli about that, if you will pass the microphone to her. you support donald trump. you don't love his tone but
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support him. >> that's right. >> how do you reconcile that? >> i have to agree with what he just said, we need strong leadership. just because you travel the world as secretary of state, what's been accomplished? our country is hurting, alisyn. we are bringing refugees into this country undocumented. you know, we are -- everything is a handout. and i don't agree with the way that things are going now. >> so the issues speak to you much more than the tone? >> yes, to me and all americans that are hurting right now for change. >> you are a hillary supporter? >> yes, i am. >> it's hard to argue with donald trump there, of course women want security and health issues. >> i thought he sounded like a drunk uncle at thanksgiving. >> how so? >> constant stream of consciousness, someone you definitely avoid at your holiday dinner. i found his remarks about secretary clintn's time as
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secretary of state really diminishing. i think it's really offensive that he characterized her as just traveling. it shows that he doesn't even know what it takes to be in the white house. >> christina, you support donald trump. what's nice is you are all sitting together and backstage talking about this is a civilized fashion. you do support trump? >> yes. >> in the interview today with chris, he said we have to bring jobs back. chris asked him no fewer than four times, how, how, how, how? he was reluctant to give many specifics. are you okay with that, christina? >> yeah. again, we're looking at he wants to bring out directly what needs to be spoken, even in the area of jobs, dealing even with hillary. how do you even believe what hillary is saying and doing with her criminal activity, dealing with everything that she has done with e-mails and everything? women, we're women here on this panel today. we are like not just soccer
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moms, you know, or football fans of what's going on. we are women that want that security and want that very issue of that. and hillary, when she was -- was she silent or was she having that part that we, as women, when somebody is going after your kids? you want to be a lion and roar and do something about it, that benghazi issue. >> that still sticks with you? >> very strong. >> one of the overwhelming issues for you? >> very strong. yes. >> cheryl, you're undecided. at least you were yesterday. how are you feeling this morning? >> that interview with chris moved my needle even further into the hillary camp. >> why is that? >> i found it very degrading to women to say that we are not smart enough to figure out a candidate on all their merits, whether they're female, male, what kind of job they do. that's insulting to me.
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>> trump didn't say that women aren't smart enough. that's what you got out of it? >> that's what i got out of it, to say that somebody is playing the woman card is saying that, you know, we can't, as women, distinguish between all the aspects of a candidate's policies. and i believe that we can. >> there you go. chrissy, you also are undecided. how are you feeling this morning now after hearing that interview? >> i think it's interesting. i'm a mother of roadway 10-year-old. do i want him to grow up and talk like donald trump? not exactly. it's interesting to me. why have no women that have worked for him -- he has to have employed thousands of women, made lots of deals in this country and around the world. nobody is coming out that knows him personally and speaking against him. he's obviously very honoring of his daughter. that's interesting to me. and i go back to the issues. i have to agree with kristina on that. we are in unprecedented times. our economy is weaker than it's
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ever been globally. our military is on that same path. i see that firsthand. and so, as a small business owner, i'm going to vote based on the economy. as a mother, am i thrilled with the way that he speaks? not exactly. as an american, i think our national security is the number one priority. andhi hillary has had a lot of influence for the last three decades. and i haven't seen her do a single thing to strengthen our economy or national security. >> there you go. to our viewers at home, we would love to hear how you would think. find me on twitter and facebook. thanks so much. it's great to get your perspective and have you on the program all morning. thavengs for being here. "ne "newsroom" with carol cost ello after this quick break. i'll give you everything i've got and then some. he gives a hundred and ten percent! i'm confident this 10% can boost your market share. feel me lois? i'm feeling you. boom! look at that pie chart. the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com.
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