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temperature. and the fact that helicopters start reacting differently in an enclosed compound where he may be rising. >> the cnn special "we got him." president obama, bin laden, and the future of the war on terror. airs right here tonight. 8:00 p.m. eastern on "ac 360." stay tuned. wolf starts right now. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 6:00 p.m. in london. 8:00 p.m. in baghdad. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you very much for joining us. we start with battleground indiana. one day away from the important indiana primary. both the democratic and republican front runners are certainly hoping the hoosier state deals knockout blows. >> if we win indiana, it's over.
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okay? >> i think the entire country is looking to indiana and depending on indiana to pull us back from this cliff that we're staring ov over. >> here's what's at stake. 83 for the democrats and 57 for the republicans. he could end the race. he's at 1,002 delegates and needs 1,237 to clinch. and puts him a big step closer to the republican presidential nomination. he needs to captured just 40% of the remaining delegates at stake in places like nebraska, new jersey, california, and of course, tomorrow in indiana. right now, trump leads the race in indiana with 49% in the new nbc news "wall street journal" poll. donald trump has been playing up the poll numbers but ted cruz
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said it's a dead heat into the primary. phil mattingly and in indianapolis. phil, here's what donald trump said this morning talking to cnn's chris cuomo. >> it's a rigged party. it's a whole rigged situation. the bosses, like in arizona, the bosses. i win arizona in a landslide. it's almost ridiculous. the bosses have delegates. they have a delegate, a crooked delegate system where they go and then try to get delegates so they play games. i tell you what the voters wouldn't stand for. when you win by millions of votes and that's a rigged system. the bosses want to pick whoever they want to pick. that's the purpose of going through the primaries. >> trump's talking about delegate fights over the weekend. as you know, delegate fights won by ted cruz. so what effect will the so-called, quote, zombie
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delegates have on the outcome? >> i think if donald trump secures the nomination before the convention, absolutely nothing. if he's blocked from doing that, if the republicans head into a contested convention, potentially everything. that's why you see the cruz campaign work so hard behind the scenes to win these fights. most recently, this weekend in arizona which donald trump is so upset about and the idea is this, wolf. after the first ballot, state by state, delegates start to become unbound. you've seen the cruz operation, a very strong grassroots operation work state by state to make sure cruz supporters are elected as delegates. a lot of these people have to vote for donald trump on the first ballot. particularly in arizona where he won by 20 points but as the ballots mover move to second, and fourth. and if they're supporters of ted cruz, they can head that way and potentially push ted cruz over the top. it's why donald trump's team made it very clear. they need to win this thing on the first ballot and that's why
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indiana has become so importantly. >> how it will factor into the delegate fight, phil? >> sure, wolf. you layed it out perfectly at the beginning. 502 delegates left. if donald trump wins 42%, he avoids a contested convention. let's look at indiana and break it down a bit. there are 57 delegates at stake tomorrow. 30 of the delegates go to the statewide winner and the other 27 by congressional district. if donald trump just wins the state, no congressional district delegates, he more or less stays on the path. a winnable path. 46% of delegates going for that he would win. that's what happens if he just wins indiana win or take all. if you add congressional delegates in there. say he wins 6 of indiana's nine congressional districts. extra 18 delegates there and then you see the number drop significantly. the 42% and wolf, here's the reality. with donald trump up in some polls by double digits, this is a very doable number at the
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moment. this is why indiana is so important. now, if you flip that a little bit. if ted cruz proves the polling wrong and say he wins 48 of the 57 delegates or maybe even more, you see that number for trump rise. all of the sudden up to 51% of the remaining delegates. it's why ted cruz and his campaign have spent so much time on indiana. why the focus is here. this state sets ted cruz up going forward. nebraska is a win or take all and then the campaign is focused on that as well all the way into california where there's 172 delegates at stake. all but 12 of those, wolf, by congressional district where they feel like they're organized to do well but none matters if they can't perform well in indiana. but they have a lot of work to do. >> they do. senator cruz making the final push today for votes in indiana. with john kasich not campaigning in indiana at all? he walked away from that state. has cruz seen the expected
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boost? >> reporter: not yet, wolf. a series of polls show him well behind donald trump here in indiana. one poll over the weekend showed him 15 points behind donald trump and cruz continues to try to downplay the importance of polls and said at least publicly the polls have him neck and neck with donald trump here. that said, the cruz campaign is very obviously working into overdrive to avoid any potential embarrassment for their campaign tomorrow here but real questions about the viability of him as a candidate going forward. i found it so notable just a few minutes ago, senator cruz's meme with voters at a campaign and said, you're behind donald trump, man. so clearly never a good narrative around your campaign when voters confront you about the status of your campaign and something senator cruz continues to be peppered with questions from reporters. today, asking him point-blank if you lose here in indiana, will you keep going?
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here's how he responded. >> i am in for the distance as long as we have a viable path to victory. i am competing to the end and the reason is simple. listen, this isn't about me. it isn't about donald trump. it isn't about any of the candidates. this is about our country and our future. and ask yourselves, do you want to go through the next four years with a president who, if your child came home and simply uttered the words coming out of the president's mouth, would make you punish your child? >> reporter: an indirect jab at donald trump. such a part of senator cruz's message and the final campaign day. the cruz campaign is really blanketing the state. senator cruz holding five events, sending out governor pence and carly fiorina, the full contingent of cruz surrogates blanketing the state. they know how much is riding on tomorrow. >> thank you.
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phil, thank you as well. let's talk more about the battle for indiana. the strategy for the trump and cruz campaigns. joining us from dallas. katrina pierson, the national spokeswoman for the trump campaign and ryan, the national spokesman for the cruz campaign. thank you for joining us. katrina, donald trump once again the rigged system after delegate bat ltles over the weekend in arizona and virginia. here's the question. if trump doesn't get to 1,237 on the first round, will the so-called zombie delegates be your down faon tdownfall on the third round? >> not at all, wolf. it's because donald trump can win over the delegates. even those who came out for cruz in the beginning, we see reports now they're reconsidering donald trump and the reason is very simple. people want a candidate who can win who can challenge the media
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and putting donald trump is now leading hillary clinton in the national polls and even polling 15% of the democrats. delegates are paying attention. >> ron, senator cruz, you heard him saying he's there for the distance as long as there's a path to victory. for you, is that the path to victory only if trump doesn't get the necessary ballots on the first round and there's a fight on the second or third ballot of the convention? >> we believe that no candidate is going to get to the number of 1237. unlikely and donald trump will get every single delegate vote he's entitled to that he won throughout the process on the first ballot but beyond that, the delegates have to make their own decision and at that point, it's up to senator cruz to put together a coalition that reaches a majority of the delegates who are assembled there and donald trump is making that job easier for us because he constantly even today continues to insult the
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volunteers and the grassroots activists to the republican party like those who gathered at the california republican party convention this weekend. he calls them party bosses and insiders. these are people who walk the precincts and make sure the phone calls get made and the signs go up and sometimes run for office and donald trump has spent weeks throwing them under the bus insulting people who volunteer time, energy, and effort for the republican party. the biggest ally when it comes to the delegates is donald trump constantly insulting the base of the republican party. >> katrina, you want to react. >> let me be clear. these are the party bosses in charge of the party in the states that do put together these delegate selection process and create the slate and votes to be voted on. not just the grassroots people on the ground because those people which we have seen get left off the ballots when it comes to delegate selection but if you want to talk about insults, what about senator cruz saying the other voters not voting for him are somehow evil and don't have good judgment?
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and now in indiana, he's telling indiana we have to stop the evil as if all of those southern voters are evil, the evangelicals are now evil. so donald trump might be going up against the establishment and the party insiders, but senator ted cruz is going after the actual voters and that's a problem. >> ron, i assume you want to react to that. >> oh, give me a break. senator cruz has been someone challenging the washington cartel which has produced more problems for this country than we can recall in this particular interview right now. and that, when it comes to the delegates. when it comes to the volunteers gathering at the republican party, conventions around the country continue to vote. it's clear that at the end of the day, they're not going to choose a candidate to go down to defeat at the hands of hillary clinton and someone who's been bankrolling the democrats, even in my own state of california. weve pointed out this weekend that donald trump funded the most liberal democratic leaders
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in the state including jerry brown, the governor, and the attorney general running for the united states senate there. while the volunteers of this party are working hard to elect republicans, donald trump has been bankrolling the other team. >> but what about the voters, ron? >> he has to pay a price. are t [ talking over each other ] >> are they evil, ron? >> in this election cycle, the thing is that every voter in every state will have the opportunity to impact this process because it's going to go all the way to june 7th when california votes in new jersey. >> senator cruz said they're evil, ron. that's the question. are trump's supporters evil? >> ron, you want to answer that? >> give me a break. the american people are hard working people. the american people are participating in a process now
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that in the state of indiana. indiana will go to the polls now. no one is paying more attention than people in indiana today and then we're going to go forward. and we're going to go forward and come to a convention in cleveland. we're going -- >> if cruz does lose tomorrow, he continues on to california, is that right? or is he going to drop out? >> no, we go all the way to california. we've been organizing california since august of last year and a tremendous response both for ted cruz and carly fiorina this past weekend at the state republican party convention. we're very excited about the fact that my state of california that we actually have been having an opportunity to have a voice in this process. we haven't had a voice in the republican nominating process in a long time and carly would be the first californian on the national ticket since ronald reagan and we're excited to have this process and we're fully organizing in the state. and look forward to it. >> we'll cover it every step of the way. ron and katrina, thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. >> thank you. coming up, bernie sanders
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makes a direct plea to the super delegates. support me, he says. in states that i beat hillary clinton. will he sway any of the political insiders? and it's been five years since president obama ordered the raid that killed osama bin laden. peter bergen spoke about that day in the white house situation room. stay with us.
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republican presidential candidate ted cruz is in indiana. a few moments ago, senator cruz spoke to trump supporters. listen to this. >> i appreciate you coming out. i appreciate you coming out and standing up. and i think this entire process, i think that anyone who wants to be president owes it to the people of the state to come and ask for your support. and i'm running to be everyone's president. >> we don't want you. >> jooyou're entitled to your v.
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>> do the math. >> it's your turn. >> take your own word. >> now, i'm curious, sir, when donald doesn't get to 1237? >> donald will definitely get to 1237. he'll get more than 1237. >> let me ask you something, sir. what do you like about donald? >> everything. >> give me one. >> everything. >> anything. >> the wall. that's the main thing. immigration. >> did you know donald told the new york editorial? >> lying ted. >> sir. >> civilized people don't just scream and yell at each other. i'm not yelling at you. the new york times recorded the whole thing. that was a total lie. made up. >> lying ted.
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>> tough exchange there. let's get the democratic contest as well. out buying him flowers and chocolate but bernie sanders is courting the so-called super delegates to support hillary clinton. hillary clinton holding an event in kentucky focusing in on jobs and that's going on right now part of a two-day campaign swing. and faces an uphill battle in the quest for the presidential nomination and said he has no plans to drop out of the race and try to convince super delegates to support him. >> the way the system works is you have establishment candidates who win virtually all of the super delegates. it makes it hard for insurgent candidacies like ours to win. but you know what? we're going to fight for every last vote. >> a cnn political commentator and that exchange, remarkable exchange. you've got to give senator cruz
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some credit. he was willing to go to the trump supporters to confront them and you heard the back and forth. what did you make of it? >> ted cruz is fighting for, as you know, this is a key state tomorrow in indiana. if he loses this state, donald trump's path to 1237 is very clear. there's no question that ted cruz right now is running as if he's governor of indiana. going to every county and region of the state trying to get the last minute voters to come his way. it's an uphill climb but i thought everybody who goes in front of quite a passionate supporter and confronter. >> not just one but a few. several of them as well. i just said it takes political courage to do that kind of stuff and he was willing to do it. let's talk on the democratic contest right now. bernie sanders. does he have a credible path to securing the democratic nomination? >> wolf, 75% of our delegates have been allocated. after tomorrow, it's 72%, 70%.
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it's tough. it's really tough. but that doesn't mean bernie sanders has to throw in a towel. he's going to compete for every delegate and compete for every vote. if he falls short, then secretary clinton who is now winning with pledge delegates, super delegates. really no distinction. we have one vote a piece and she's also winning the raw vote. and it's clear to me that secretary clinton is on the path to 2,383. >> he would need almost all the votes in the remaining contest to get to a credible level and that's pretty hard in the proportional system. your party doesn't have win or take all states. >> if we don't, given the fact hillary clinton has more states, she would also be in the lead with delegates. it's just a race to win the democratic party's nomination. we cannot recalculate how we choose delegates. delegates are chosen both at the state level and as you well know, many of us super delegates as well. >> you're a super delegate.
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you've not announced who you'll support, right? >> this is be my fifth convention and been a pledge delegate. i'm excited about it. dc will vote last on june 14th and looking forward to that. >> the polls show for indiana it's going to be very, very close according to the nbc news "wall street journa "wall street journa "wall street journal" mares poll. >> it could be a close contest. i wouldn't be surprised if bernie sanders, you know, he might pick up a couple more states. you've got a lot of states out there still up and oregon, of course, mentioned that. another caucus in north dakota and could continue to pick up states and delegates. bottom line, 2,383. cannot separate pledge from super. we're all in this together. >> 15% of all the democrats are super delegates. more than 700, right? >> 14.8%. 714 of us.
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>> she's got most of them lined up. >> i'm on the rose committee. so i enjoy this. >> i know. thank you very much. a heated battle for the hearts and minds of hoosiers. donald trump and ted cruz trying to woo voters before tomorrow's key primary. how this contest could change everything potentially in the gop race. i'm betty white and i'm known for
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donald trump said if he wins the indiana primary tomorrow, it's game over but senator cruz said not so fast. cruz said he's in the race for the long haul. joining us now to talk about the race, cnn chief political analyst gloria borger and cnn
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political analyst david gregory. thank you very much for coming in. is trump right that it's over if he wins indiana? >> i think he's right. i think it's already mathematically impossible for ted cruz to win. i think cruz needs indiana more than trump does. i think trump can still get to the magic number or really close without it. but don't forget. with indiana, it's a hybrid state. but if you win, if you win the state, you get 30 delegates right off the bat of the 57. and so, you know, i think cruz is trying to make his case to these delegates that, yes, we can do this in a brokered convention but "the times" had a great piece. even those disposed to cruz republican regulars say, we don't want a big fight at the convention and the more trump succeeds, the more he's likely to get to the number. >> you heard the national spokesman just said a few
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moments ago, even if cruz loses tomorrow, they're going on to california. they're going to do whatever they can to prevent trump from reaching the 1,237 number you need to get the nomination. >> sure. they'll go on. i think carly fiorina to have some game in california and get delegates there but if he loses indiana, it's all over and ted cruz said that would be the case. he put it all on the line in indiana. it's a conservative state. it seems to favor him more in terms of the demographic of the electorate. and the reality is that if he can't win there, and it's a big loss for cruz. and even if it's a decent loss for cruz, it's very hard to stop trump. mathematically, we know. but then you have states like nebraska that can now go for trump where it favored cruz and then polling well in california. i think it's basically done. there's another piece of this too. the more republicans i talk to who are even if they're holding their nose a bit, even the they think it's high risk, it's potentially high reward.
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there's a warming going on with the gop to trump. >> and the irony here for cruz, of course, is that this should have been a state he would do well in and why it's throwing everything out because a large share of evangelical voters. a large share of better educated voters. it's a very conservative voter base. remember, they threw out dick luger for the tea party candidate. so i think that this should be a state that could actually work for cruz. >> and it's what he wanted cruz, one on one. because kasich for all practical purposes in indiana has dropped out and not gone there to campaign. >> the reality is that cruz has also said he's going to make indiana a strong ideological pitch there. most socially conservative voters there and looks like wisconsin, won, of course, and gave this stop trump movement some juice. but even there, you know, you
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have a lot of evangelical voters who voted to trump until now. the play is to say hillary clinton, donald trump, they're one in the same. look at the exchange a few minutes ago saying to the voters, the trump voters. donald is not even going to follow through on putting up a wall and cracking down. trying to prove he's a liberal, a phony, a fraud. that's the best play here for cruz in a state like that. >> they'll try it. >> certainly have. thank you very much. we'll have an exciting day, i assume, tomorrow. a reminder, we'll be covering the indiana rprimary tomorrow o cnn. please join us for our coverage. up next, president obama's legacy in the war on terror. our own peter bergen talk about the rains that killed osama bin laden.
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it was five years ago to the day or almost the hour that osama bin laden was killed in a raid in pakistan. that successful operation likely to remain one of the enduring legacies of the president obama's time in the white house and a cnn exclusive airing later tonight, president obama and members of his inner circle speak with cnn's national security analyst and the author peter bergen about the raid. >> after the discussions with the principals, it was clear to me this was going to be our best chance to get bin laden. that if, in fact, we did not take the action that he might slip away and be years before he resurface. i had confidence we could get our guys back.
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we knew that it was going to cause some significant blowback within pakistan. and that if it wasn't bin laden, probably the cost would outweigh the benefits and we would lose face internationally because there was probably going to be a lot of difficulty keeping it secret once the operation started. >> peter bergen is joining us now. peter, you wrote the book on the manhunt for bin laden and now five years later, you sat down with president obama and some of his key advisors. did you learn anything new? >> i think the first thing we learned new from the president is that he was contemplating ordering this raid quite a lot earlier than we thought. he was leaning in that direction. we also spent considerable time interviewing admiral mccraven, architect of the raid. the head of the joint special command and the president kind of walked us through his
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decision-making process in the various places he made it. this iconic photograph is actually in the small office of the situation room. the decision-making process largely took place in the situation room but then all moved in here because they could see a video feed of the raid going down. and so the president kind of walked us through what happened that day in the locations that he was as the raid happened. >> did the pakistanis, and i mean the pakistani leaders and government know bin laden was living in their country all those years? because as you know, that's been a huge question out there. >> yes. and of course, you know, bin laden, as you know, wolf, was living in a compound not far from pakistan in the military academy. people said, surely they must have known. most of the people we spoke to in this program including the president said there's no evidence the pakistanis knew. that interestingly, secretary of
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state, then secretary of state hillary clinton and now democratic candidate feels they must have known she didn't necessarily sort of provide any evidence of that. but it is sort of suspicious that this is an area where a lot of pakistani military offices live and retire to. and certainly, you know, it's one of the questions that people have when they think about this operation. >> as you know, isis is now considered the major terror threat against the united states. but al qaeda are still in business. al zawari. they might take a massive explosive operation. do they have the capability to do another 9/11 kind of attack? >> wolf, i think that's highly improbable. some of the affiliates of al qaeda and yemen and syria and north africa, certainly, they had some capacity.
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but 9/11 style attack on the united states by any group i think is almost out of the question. even a paris style attack. we talked to 130 people killed and talked to a number of people including the president and his senior national security advisors. certainly concerned about the possibility but the situation in europe is different with the number of european recruits that have gone and compared to the american recruits that have gone to isis for training. >> peter bergen, thank you very much. thanks for the excellent work you're doing as well. >> thank you. >> you can watch peter's interview with president obama. it's exclusive. and other key figures behind the raid that killed bin laden. that airs tonight. a special edition of "ac 360" here on cnn. coming up, the truce in syria now hanging by a thread. what the u.s. is doing to try to piece the so-called cease-fire back together and the alarming consequences on the ground if those efforts fail. plus, a chaotic scene in baghdad right now as protesters
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world leaders now scrambling to try to save that cease-fire in syria. right now, the secretary of state john kerry is in geneva working with other world leaders trying to restore peace in areas where it's fallen apart. secretary kerry acknowledged the challenges at this morning's talks. >> but it is a fact that in the last weeks, the cessation of hostilities has been put to test. and it has frayed in certain areas and it has fallen completely in a few areas. >> our senior national correspondent frederik pleitgen joining us. secretary kerry working with russians in particular. what are they trying to get accomplished today? >> reporter: the cessation of
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violence in syria. 350 people killed on both sides. a massive aerial campaign by bashar al assad forces bombing places and the u.s. said probably also that hospital last week killing 50 people. now the u.s. says that it expects the russians to be constructive in this whole process and also lean on the assad regime to stop its aerial bombardments. the russians for their part said last week that they don't want to lean on the syrians but when sunday rolled around, they did say they are in negotiations to try to get some sort of truce going in the area. today, there was a phone call between sergei, the russian foreign minister and secretary of state kerry. and in geneva and the two of them decided on new steps to try to get the peace process forward and also called on all sides to abide by what they call a
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regime, a set of cease-fires, counts for the damascus area, the lataki area and that's something where secretary of state kerry said something needs to happen very quickly. progress is being made, wolf, but he also acknowledges there is still a long way to go. >> the stakes are clearly enormous. awful, awful. hundreds of thousands of people have been killed over these past few years and millions have been made homeless. internally and externally as well. so the stakes are really enormous. as bad as it is, it could get a whole lot worse. frederik pleitgen in moscow. thank you very much. meanwhile -- isis is now claiming responsibility for a car bomb in baghdad that killed at least 16 people. injured 43 others. the bomb went off along a highway being used by shiite pilgrims walking on foot. authorities in iraq were also confronted by shiite protesters and through the ring zone in baghdad. they were there protesting government corruption.
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jam jamonica, they left the green zone at least for now. first of all, what got them to leave? >> reporter: well, wolf, as you know, the majority of these protesters are supporters of shia southern. it was a statement that came from the office on sunday evening saying the protesters are withdrawing for now. the main reason they say was out of respect for the shia pilgrimage taking place in baghdad this week but as you said, it's just more now. they said they will be returning. another thing they were trying to give politicians a chance to meet their demands. of course, their main demand has been for parliament to vote on a new government to be presented by prime minister. so-called governor of tech no kara crats. but because of the infighting in
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parliament between two various political groups. but i think more than anything there's a statement that he is a serious force to be reckoned with in that country and he still possesses that ability to mobilize the masses. >> you know, the other day we spoke to the state department spokesman acknowledging that the situation in baghdad is awful right now. the vice president biden was just there and spent a few hours, couldn't spend the night there or announce his visit there. similarly, john kerry when he was there couldn't announce he was going for a few hours. ash carter, the defense secretary. how bad is the situation inside baghdad? forget about mosul and other areas in iraq. but in baghdad right now. >> reporter: well, wolf, the violence there does eastbound and flow as we have seen in recent months. the security situation did improve for some time but now it
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seems that isis is stepping up its attacks. if you look at just the past three days, we have had a number of bombings taking place in baghdad but also in the south of the country, this is usually a calmer part of the country, we saw attacks there claimed by isis. the security situation right now, wolf, they have really stepped up security. they have increased security presence in the capital ahead of the pilgrimage that reaches the peak on tuesday to try to secure the pilgrims heading most of them on foot, usually a soft target for groups like isis. but as we have seen today, despite the security measures, increased security, isis has an ability to carry out attacks in the capital. deadly attacks. at least 16 people killed as we have seen, wolf. >> indeed, throughout iraq.
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america canbay is speaking out after north korea released him. longest held u.s. citizen in the country since the korean war. he was leading a tour of north korea back in 2012 when authorities arrested him and eventually convicted him for committing hostile acts against the country. here's how he described the experience to chris cuomo. >> a prosecutor assigned to my case last year of imprisonment.
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came to me almost every week and say no one remember you. you are forgotten. your government. you're not going home any time soon. you'll be here 15 years. you'll be 60 before you go home. i'm grateful for people trying to get me home. unreal to see i'm sitting in the studio talking to you. this has been just 735 days north korea was long enough. but i'm thankful. >> one of the people bae thanked for release was the former nba basketball star dennis rodman who once called kim jong-un a friend for life. bae says rodman brought more attention to his case and for that he's grateful. about 700 passengers set sail from miami and cruised into history books today. the first u.s. cruise ship to travel to cuba nearly 40 years. docked at havana less than three hours ago. the cruise manager called the trip, quote, the beginning of
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new era. our correspondent patrick outman is joining us live from havana. patrick, what was it like when the u.s. cruise ship arrived? set the scene for us. >> reporter: you know, i have never seen like it, wolf. cruise ships are more and more of a regular current here and almost full of europeans, canadians, never americans until today. when we saw that cruise ship arrive already along the seawall. there were cubans lining up very, very excited. wanted to take photos, wave american flags and then has americans came off in waves, you can hear cubans just below us in the port of havana, clapping, hugging them. there was a lot of excitement over this and this is a country where, of course, it's state controlled media. and there was no mention of this cruise ship to arrive today. all the same, cubans came out by the hundreds to welcome the
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americans and controversy over this carnival cruise ship because initially carnival said they wouldn't accept bookings of people born in cubans. not allowed to come and goes back to a provision of cuban law that prevents cubans from either leaving or entering the island aboard boats. finally, carnival bowing to pressure said they would not sail until the cuban government changed the policy and that's what the government did. really impressed everybody and surprised everybody that the cuban government would make the concession to carnival. a lot of work to be done. you look at the port, wolf. not room for large cruise ship. carnival has ship that is acouple date thousands of people. they can't come here just yet. it's going to take years but today was an important first step, wolf. >> i'm sure it was. all right. patrick opp mnn in havana,
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thanks very much for your excellent work for us, as well. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." but the news tonights right now right here on cnn. here we go. watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for tuning in on this montd afterno monday afternoon. we'll listening for ted cruz from an event of ft. wayne, indiana. of course, on the eve of what many observers call a make or break event for him in the race for president. the indiana primary, tomorrow. 57 critical republican delegates up for grabs and the texas senator, he needs every single one of them and then some. he needs the momentum of a win after the recent losses in the northeast and even senator cruz has pumped up how important indiana is to him. come paining with the state's