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in the process, the 5,000 delegates in attendance, everybody else to watch, listen and accept what the government was telling them and nonetheless people on the streets were saying they're happy that their leader has a new position and they say they agree with his strategy to try to grow in nation's impoverished economy and invest billions on developing and even bigger and stronger nuclear arsenal even meaning heightened international sanctions and hardship for the people saying they support him and here in north korea what else would they say? wolf? >> thanks very much. that's it for me. the news continues next on cnn. wolf blitzer, thank you so much. i'm brooke baldwin. you're warming cnnon this tuesday. we begin with a surprise twist in the race for president, a republican source tells cnn that
marco rubio's people pushing him hard to be donald trump's running mate. rubio dropped out back in march. this discussion apparently happened just last month that the republican national committee meeting in florida. the source said rubio moved on and added he would likely have demanded some changes in the trump campaign. quoting the source, quote, mr. trump has shown he always leaves the space to walk things back when he needs it. he goes on, with regards to the hispanic community there would have to be things that would have to be walked back. this breaking development comes in stark contrast with what rubio said in the hours after he dropped out of the presidential race saying he did not want to be vice president. as far as the florida senator today, what does he have to say about the front-runner, presumptive nominee of the republican party, minutes ago he talked about donald trump before an audience of foreign policy experts in our nation's capital.
>> i don't view myself as a guy who's going to sit here for six months taking shots at him. people know where i stand, how i feel, what our differences are. he's the presumptive nominee via the voters. i respect and accept that. >> let's talk about this with david chalian. david chalian, there's a lot of pieces of this. right? this happened a month ago. hearing over and over from marco rubio no way, no way, no way. not interested. things would have to change. cut through it. >> break it down into pieces. first of all, when somebody says, in april or may, that they don't want to be vice president that's very different from actually saying no when the nominee skaul calls to ask you july. right? there's an art form of saying you're not interested and how you say that and yet you do kind of want to be on the short list behind the scenes.
in fact, both sides seem to say now to cnn and others that the interest waned but i do think it is really interesting to see rubio's advisers and those that support him made this pitch to team trump. first of all, it's not surprising politically. right? marco rubio on paper is a very attractive candidate. if you go back to that 2012 autopsy that the republican party did -- >> hispanics and women. >> exactly. he fits the bill there. on the ticket, through the process this year and somewhat already vetted in many ways, probably not too many surprises left about marco rubio so that's an attractive quality. so there are lots of reasons why this may make sense. but you also heard marco rubio today, didn't play it right there and today at the same event said, you know, he's not in a position to dictate anything or tell donald trump to be anything but donald trump should be who he is because he does, indeed, as he said there,
respect the will of the voter and made him the nominee. >> if we know according to sources that the rubio folks were witching, you know, marco rubio hard to the trump folks, would that then infer that marco rubio would have to have consented to that push for that meeting? >> not necessarily. >> does that make sense? >> yeah. >> not necessarily. >> great question. i don't think political advisers and strategists need the permission of the principal to be able to start having the conversations. i think that could have easily happened without marco rubio's blessing and actually if you're a marco rubio political adviser, probably malpractice not to pursue that in some way. he gave up the senate seat to run for president so he's certainly in the market for a j.b. >> okay. marco rubio aside, what about these polls? quinnipiac polls, talked to voters specifically in the swing states. florida, ohio, pennsylvania. because it's pollsters say since 1960 no candidate won without
taking two of the three states and walking viewers through some of this, florida and pennsylvania, for example, a virtual tie. secretary clinton's one-point lead well within the margin of error. you look at ohio, trump edging out clinton four points. i mean, you know, there's the gender gap irks massive. what jumped out at you the most? >> i was just like, wow. this is -- >> so close. >> a close, contested race and i guess if we look at elections, shouldn't be surprising. that's the kind we have in the modern era, closely contested ones an expect it to be the same but i do think you're right to note the gender gap and first things i noticed in the poll. was just that he is winning men overwhelmingly and she is winning women and even if these are numbers that are not the exact numbers and you allow for the margin of error and all of that, i think it's something for us to watch from now through november because it's going to be critical in determining just
how close these contests are but the second thing an this is the most important thing out of the polls because, again, it is early. brooke, you know that. we have polling between now and november. but what donald trump needed this week was exactly this kind of information as he is going to capitol hill to meet with speaker ryan, leader mcconnell to try to get the establishment on board. >> do you think it's leverage? >> yeah. i don't know. leverage. but it's a data point to present to them to say, guys, this is not some throw away i'm going the lose this race. look at this. there's evidence to suggest this can be a contest and it lal is only going to be a successful effort if everyone gets together so i think it's an important piece of information, a well-timed poll for donald trump and his aides to head to capitol hill with this week. >> david chal i don't knian you. >> thank you, brooke. >> thank you so much. a lot of data points to discuss. let's bring in kayly mcdanny,
strategist chris kofinos and you heard my conversation with david chalian about this, you know, possibility of rubio on the ticket. ben, to you, i mean, we last chatted about you're not shy. let's put it that way about how you feel about donald trump. would rubio on the ticket entice you that way? >> it would entice me to never support rubio for anything ever again. >> okay. >> i've stood by a really simple i think common sense way of looking at things. if you think somebody is a liar, if you think they're unstable, dangerous, if you think that them being in the oval office would be bad for america that doesn't change when the club you're part of nominates them. so if rubio went back on everything he said in the election which was far worse than anything that he said about
cruz or anything romney said about -- >> not the politicians don't do that, by the way. >> right. they do. but to this degree? i think is alarming to say that somebody would be dangerous for america because they are unstable and then say let's go preach freedom together? it seems like it would be a stretch. >> i hear you. again, they have said -- trump would have to walk a lot back. we don't know what a lot back means. >> walk himself back. the change would have to be donald trump being off. >> wow. okay. so then now i turn to the trump supporter, kayly. your thoughts on a potential, you know, rubio-trump ticket? if rubio would say yes. >> right. i have immense respect for rubio and would be a great candidate and respect the choice not to do it. they were in contentious battles on stage but what i respect about marco rubio is the fact we heard him say i respect the will
of the people. that is what the republican party needed to do for a very long time and haven't done it. that's why you see in poll after poll, every exit poll, 50-plus percent feel betrayed by the party. all of these people stepping behind the nominee saying, you know what? this election isn't about us and what we want but the people want. that i think is the big story today that rubio had the courage to say that so i respect him for this. >> okay. respect for that. chris, as the dem, a little bit different perspective. what are you thinking? >> well, i'm enjoying the back and forth between the two republicans sort of. i mean, listen. in terms of i think rubio, i don't know if it's one of the strangest political marriages but trump is a unique candidate an unique times so i guess it's not impossible. i don't think it's realistic to think they're together. he will have i think a serious challenge finding a credible
vice president. i mean, he can pick someone like christie or ben carson. maybe someone else. in order to have someone next to him that's going to address some of the fundamental questions that vote earls in their minds, specifically the idea that you're going to entrust donald trump with the nuclear codes, i'm not sure that vice presidential candidate's ever been created to be able to create that credibility in voters' minds. >> kayleigh, i have to pivot back to you. you're listening to these two men and i way i do not to respond and then move on. >> i would challenge you to say rick perry stepped up and say that he would be the vp and many credible people who would agree to be donald trump's vp and this whole crazy, outlandish idea he's a maniac to go off the rails is not true. not a credible point of view or responsible point of view and i don't think it's responsible to come on national tv and paint him as a maniac.
you're not only painting him as a maniac but the millions of vote earl who is are voting for him at unprecedented levels like never seen before and will have the most of the republican vote over any nominee in republican history so i think it's responsible -- >> i want to be clear -- without respect -- >> i'm held to a higher standard than donald trump? he goes on national tv all the time saying unbelievably unforgivable things but i'm the one that needs to reserve myself. i want to make sure that's what's going on here. >> let's just move on. i don't want a scream fest over donald trump at the top of my show. let's move on to ted cruz because this is fascinating. he was interviewed by glenn beck today on the radio and said if he were to win today in nebraska and quote/unquote respond accordingly if he sees a path to victory. ben, should he jump back in?
>> if there is a path that he can take, he has a responsibility to jump back in. >> you do think so. >> millions of people that represent him. absolutely. do i think there is one? i have no idea. >> you have no idea. >> i have no idea. i did not think there was. >> chris? >> nothing would make my day more than ted cruz jumping back in to the race. i mean -- >> harder for the never trump to keep up the case so close? also, though, in the swing states, ohio, pennsylvania, virginia, we were just talking about. >> i mean, listen. you know, in all joking aside about the craziness that we have seen in this primary season, especially the republican side, i mean, this is going to be as i think every election is a heated contested potentially very brutal election. i don't think -- no one should underestimate trump's ability to cross any line and he's going to have a certain swath of support so i don't think if you're secretary clinton you go into the race or any democrat if you
want to be serious and think this race is over. somehow in june. it is not. he's going to be a formidable candidate and we should respect that reality. that doesn't mean he is a good president. he would be an unmitigated disaster and doesn't mean he can't win. you have to look at it that way and polls suggest that for the time being. >> okay. pause on this. stick around. i want to bring you back in a moment. for all of you watching, this is huge, especially with all the news today with regard to the florida senator marco rubio. he will be talking to jake tapper on "the lead." a cnn exclusive. this is his first interview since dropping out of the republican presidential race. 4:00 eastern here on cnn. next, when it comes to raising cash for the general election, is donald trump starting a tad too late? we have that for you. also, jon stewart blaming democrats for, in part, the rise of donald trump. but he doesn't stop there. he criticizes, hillary clinton,
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. donald trump boasted throughout the primaries he is self funding the campaign but to compete this fall he needs other people's money and a lot of it. one of the main assets he can tap into comes from the republican national committee and "the new york times" is reporting that trump and his advisers are close to a deal that would allow him to raise money for the committee and his own campaign at the same time but that plan isn't without hurdles. some major republican donors uncommitted or won't back donald trump and a key republican operative warns, quote, no one should underestimate how hard
for a nominee to raise hundreds of millions of dollars in a very short period of time. tell me more about this. >> yeah, i mean, donald trump faces an unusual situation of, remember, he has spent the last year really criticizing republican donors, criticizing the political system, criticizing the rnc and now that he has become the presumptive nominee he needs to tap into that party apparatus and help from donors to make sure that he can raise hundreds of millions of dollars he needs to compete against hillary clinton in the general election. and now a lot of donors i have spoken to say that they're waiting for trump to reach out to them. they're waiting to see if trump's tone will change and a big part of that -- >> what do you mean by tone? >> a big of part of that is seeing thursday after the meeting with paul ryan and other congressional leaders. he's spent a long time using messages that have not necessarily unified the party and as you know party unify has now become the key theme for the
republican party after trump has become the nominee. i think a lot of donors taking the cues from party leaders to see if paul ryan comes out of the meeting saying, lock, he is on our team now. this is a guy you all can support and i now support. i think a lot of donors want to hear party leaders say that before they decide to write these million-dollar checks to support a very unusual candidate. >> may or may not get that language from paul ryan. that's an issue where they're pennies, nickels an dimes contingent on speaker paul ryan and haven't some said i'm focusing on down ballot, the down ballot republicans and that is it? >> absolutely. a lot of donors not supporting donald trump and supporting senate and house candidates to make sure that they have as many republican representatives in congress so they say that they're focusing their efforts and their money and checkbooks
on helping candidates and committees that raise money for congressional candidates as opposed to writing checks for donald trump and his campaign. now, that time may actually come in a couple of months. especially if donald trump makes those overchurs and, you know, makes sure that he is building the relationships. i think it's too early to see whether, you know, that's going to happen. i think we also need to see what happens on thursday with that paul ryan meeting. >> there's a meeting thursday. did you know? mj, thank you so much. coming up, jon stewart coming out of retirement kind of sort of to weigh in on the presidential race. why he says in part the democrats are to blame for the rise of trump. >> i'll lay the blame then with the democrats. the door is open to a [ bleep ] like donald trump. hey there, hi.
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jon stewart is back. sort of. calling donald trump a thin skinned man baby who ridicules rivals and minorities and imploeds plowith critics. >> he is a man baby. he has the physical countenance of a man and a baby's temperament and hands. i'll lay the blame them with the democrats. the door is open to a [ bleep ] like donald trump because the democrats didn't do anything enough to show to people that government can be effective for
people can be efficient for people and if you can't do that then you have lost the right to make that change and someone's going to come in and demagogue you and that's what happens. >> they're back. ben hal, kayleigh and chris kofinis. so, chris, out of the gate to you. we just played some of the sound. the note of blaming democrats. is there some truth to that? >> i think there's some -- the truth of the fact that you can blame democrats. i think you can blame republicans, washington. the frustration that's out there in the country is real. wlit's on the right and those that are supporting trump or those on the left supporting senator sanders. and i don't think you should, you know, you can minimize it to understand what's going on in the election with the electorate. and the reality is i think both republicans and democrats, this
is a bipartisan failure but, you know, i'll put my blame on my party, this one, i'm the democrat here. we, you know, we believe in government. i believe as most democrats believe that government can do things, change people's lives for the better. we have not done a good enough job to communicate that and explain it and to make sure that the programs that so many republicans like donald trump want to destroy, you know, aren't demonized for the good that they do not run as perfectly as hay should be and i think unfortunately we have fed it and that doesn't explain or justify donald trump and the way he's pursued his agenda by demonizing muslims, mexicans and any human being that disagrees with him. >> sure. listen. it's not news jon stewart critical of donald trump whatsoever but i think it was newsworthy to lay some of the blame of democrats and hillary clinton described as a bright
woman without the courage of her convictions and noted that convicting vote earls is crucial to win the general election. ben, if you can kind of sort of take your red state.com hat off for a second and how would hillary clinton, you know, in terms of authenticity, how would she do that? >> how would she come across as authentic to people who completely disagree with her? >> yeah. >> i think if she is going to make any case to people that completely disagree with her it rests entirely on the idea that she would be more stable in the government office in the oval office than donald trump would be and donald trump isn't going to serve any of the positions that are important to conservatives. that's how i look at him. so she doesn't have to convince me. but i think that running as sort of the never trump candidate to republicans and conservatives is an only chance i think i have called it bumper stickers that say vote for the enemy it is
important, that might be one of the things that she could do. you know, the authenticity has to be not trying to pretend that we agree on these policy issues. we don't. this is a question of character. >> and on that authenticity, i think related to trustworthiness and honesty. neither trump or clinton do well from the quinnipiac poll of three states of florida, pennsylvania and rerefers to your candidate as a man baby or baby man and i wondered the lack of a jon stewart in this election cycle, obviously, here, you know, in the media we're interviewing the candidates, holding them accountable but missing this voice, how -- are you, like, thanks your lucky stars in a sense that jon stewart is no longer hosting "the daily show" for your candidate's sake?
>> yes, yes. yes, i am thanking him for stepping down. but, you know, he does have a point that democrats have not governed well. i agree with chris there's bipartisan failure. both the left and the right betrayed the middle class. they have been left out. they have been marginalized and seen the wages just working hard and their wages are flat. so there's bipartisan failure. he's absolutely right and jon stewart is right to point out the failures of democrats and disagree that government can ever work at a big level. i think we have a lot of proof it doesn't work and disagree with jon and thankful he's not around to belittle trump around. >> last question, chris. i'm curious. how do you think the race is different if jon stewart is back on tv every night? >> oh, one, it would be a fantastic show to watch. you have to admit that. i think one of the mistakes that has happened in the coverage of this, you know, race, is that the candidates in particular mr.
trump is somehow been able to escape asking -- i'm sorry, having to answer the tough questions and i think -- they have been asked. let's the out that -- >> yeah. but the tough questions being asked and give an answer without any specifics, has no credibility in any facts, there has to be a follow-up that challenges him on it, exposes the fact he doesn't know what he's talking about, republican or democrat, running for office, you have to be accountable to what you know. can't be just rhetoric and seen from trump is just that and what you would have seen from "the daily show" under jon stewart is a much more brutal attack not just of trump but i think both parties and the media. >> hmm. chris and ben and kayleigh, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> they. >> thank you, brooke. next, with voting under way in two primary states today, ted cruz reigniting speculation he might jump back into the race depending on how the results
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today? we'll see. on the republican side, this is donald trump's first primary as the presumptive nominee. does that necessarily mean he'll sweep? wet's go to jean casarez. jean, talk to me about what you have seen and heard today. >> reporter: well, first of all, the secretary of state's office just told us that voter turnout today in the state is anywhere from steady to great. and that is what the statistics have shown. i'll tell you that vote earls are engaged that i have spoken with as they have come out after voting, knowledgeable on the issues and they're very passionate about their state and the economy. want to show some early voting tabulations. this is the early vote and already in. but it is casting a record for the state of west virginia. over 100,000 early ballots were submitted in west virginia. look compared to the primary election in 2012 and -- >> huge number. >> reporter: it's huge.
and they believe that today's primary election will also garner some records for the state. now, what are voters telling me? it is so interesting and learning so much. first of all i spoke with someone whose mother was born in a coal mining camp. he says that people have to realize that the future for west virginia is not coal. it is the past. they have got to bring in new industry. they need to retrain the miners. he believes that hillary clinton is the best person to be president of this country to effectuate that change for west virginia and i spoke with a young woman who was a syrian descent. she says she is not associated with the coal miners or not all and said global picture is important. bernie sanders her candidate. also spoke with a lady who's a registered democrat, she had to vote democrat, this's the process here and voted for hillary clinton and said coming the general election it's all about donald trump because she believes he cares and can change
the economy for west virginia. and let me tell you. many people support the coal industry and believe that is the future of this state and here's what i have learned, brooke, today. the trickle down domino effect of the miners affected and their families and you have got the heavy equipment operators and caterpillar, the attorneys that form the contracts for the miners, you have the consultants, clerical staff, you have so many people affected in this entire state because the miners aren't working and the mines aren't working to their full capacity. >> hmm. i'm so glad you're talking to these people, important to remind folks, people are out voting. this thing is not locked up yet. jean casarez inn west virginia, thank you so much. now as far as donald trump, how exactly did trump turn a world class career in real estate and reality tv to the nominee for republican party?
students can study his rise for a couple of credits this summer. the historically black georgia college is offering the course beginning in about a week and the brains behind this class is professor robert smith from savannah state's political science department. nice to have you on. >> well, brooke, thank you. my pleasure to be here. thank you. >> i can only imagine what it's like teaching poly sci this spring as i've had you had interesting discussions with your students. is that the genesis of the summer course? >> oh, absolutely. a very exciting time to be teaching any sort of a class on political science. again, the campaign both on the republican, of course, but also on the democratic side has really fueled the debate and discussion in class and been an exciting time. in fact, that part of that debate and discussion was the reason for thinking that it was time to advance a course looking precisely at donald trump and the trump factor in electoral
politics. >> i understand that a lot of your students have disagreed with, been frustrated with some of what donald trump has brought to the forefront politically but you say sort of as a neutral professor that there are some aspects of mr. trump that would surprise them. like what? >> well, i think particularly in terms of when you take a closer look at mr. trump's background, in terms of his business accumen, negotiating a variety of deals and heard a lot of talk about that. he's donald trump himself proed that but the idea to navigate circles in the business world and as donald trump has sort of morphed as a political figure in terms of going from at one time a democratic candidate to now the republican standard bearer for the party i think there's an ability on his part to be able to connect with variety of segments of the electorate and i
think that may be surprising to my students despite trepidations they might have due to some of those very volatile and controversial positions that he's taken. >> do you have a number of students signed up? is it a tough course to get in? >> i'll tell you. if you'd like to enroll, it's still open and as a matter of fact, again, we have about a dozen students enrolled and expecting it to increase and i have to say because it's a summer class in a sort of a very set period of time, basically for one sort of intensive month of getting to know donald trump and his impact on electoral politics, again, typically summer enrollments are a good time to be able to immerse yourself in a class like this and ending up with 18 to 20 students in the class is a perfect size of a class to have a discussion. >> pretty good. final question. i don't know if your students are listening. i would tell them, you know, ear muffs. what would be your big final
exam question on donald trump, professor? >> sure. i think that would be the seminole question which is really about what will be -- what do you think would be the long-term impact of the trump candidacy on electoral politics for the future. that's certainly the question that we're going to be posing from day one of the class and i hope we'll be able to come up with the answers by time we conclude in the class and that is the focus of what this class is all about. >> we're still so in the thick of it. i don't think any of us have the answers but we should bring you back on and your students and curious to see their thoughts. thank you, professor. >> thank you. thank you. next, president obama may make history as a first president to visit hiroshima in japan. we'll talk about that significance. also, a big man on the short list. we'll talk to hud secretary castro live.
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president obama will be making history, the first sitting president to visit hiroshima, japan. the white house says there will be no apology and that the president's remarks at hiroshima aimed to advancing the goal of a world without nuclear weapons and the deputy national security adviser quoted saying this. he will not revisit the decision to use the atomic bomb. he goes on and instead he'll offer a forward-looking vision focused on the shared future. joining me now to discuss our chief national security correspondent jim shashoe toe. he wanted to go there when he was first president. why now? >> he wants to do it before the end of the term. it's something, a promise he made those seven years ago.
he's wanted to do it. now, he has the time to do it because they're attaching it to the broader goal of nuclear nonproliferation at a summit in washington a couple of weeks it is clearly a personal issue for him, one, because this is a sort of ambitious goal of his to move the world in the direction of nonproliferation and even away from fluke clear weapons but also to highlight the hor r horrors of nuclear war. you have north korea across the sea of japan making tremendous progress on nuclear weapons and japan in the sights and u.s. in the sights and it's very topical. it's very today. and i'll tell you, brooke. if you have ever been there, i went there once about ten years ago. the power of being in this place where tens of thousands of people died within seconds, literally, in front of that famous dome there that survived, to have the american president
there regardless of whether he utters an apology which he is not -- >> sending a message. >> absolutely. i mean, it's remarkably powerful in this context. listen, i the he wants to send a counter message to someone like kim jong-un heralding the power and the spectacle of nuclear weapons, that's part of the intention there. and you might even say since it is in the political campaign, you have the republican presumptive nominee talking about giving nuclear weapons to japan and south korea and you can say it's a counter political message from the white house. >> perhaps a message of north korea. how do you think he's going to be accepted? >> he was advised against it in 2009. this is not done over japanese advice. the prime minister said now is the time to do it. i think there's people there who see it as a sort of a reaffirmation of the alliance
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this is aleppo where the fighting stopped for now. u.s. secretary of state kerry says the ceasefire will save tens of thousands of lives and not possible without the russians. cnn's fredpleitgen is inside russia with the military and learning that the footprint of vladimir putin is bigger than we all thought. >> reporter: this is the russian intervention the world has come to know. but rush why's footprint in syria seems to be far bigger than just combat jets. there are thousands of troops stationed at its main airbase disciplined and highly motivated. we caught up with this first lieutenant during his boxing practice. i'm glad to serve my country here, he says, and i'm not afraid. what is there to be afraid of in syria? the west has criticized russia saying its airstrikes target most ly moderate anti-assad
rebels. the russians claiming they bomb only isis and other terror groups. but while moscow says it's withdrawn most forces from syria, we saw what appeared several bases in western and central syria with a variety of attack helicopters. also, a brand-new base for its demining crews with dozens of fighting vehicles and even anti-aircraft missile systems. on top of its own assets, the military spokesman says his forces closely cooperate with bashar al assad's troops. we receive a great deal of information from the syrian general staff, he says. they're on the ground and close to the rebels. as for the military technical cooperation, of course, we help them, as well. none of this seems to indicate a full russian withdrawal from syria any time soon, and for many in the government-held part of damascus, that's just fine. the people here in the government-held part of damascus seem to be very well aware to
the extent of the russian military helping the assad forces but they also say if there's going to be a solution to the syrian crisis, it has to come from syrians themselves and not from outside powers. violence still rages in most of the country. conciliation seems nowhere in sight and neither is an end of rush why's involvement in the conflict. fred pleitgen, cnn, damascus. all right. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. you're watching cnn. call it a surprise twist in the race for president. a source from donald trump's campaign says marco rubio's own people pushing him, quote, hard to be trump's running mate. you know the story. rubio drop out of the race back in march. this discussion apparently happened at the republican national committee meeting in april. another source that advised
rubio for years said he moved own and added that the florida senator likely demanded some changes. senator rubio just yesterday tried to quell any talk of him on a trump ticket. writing, quote, he, that is, trump, best served by a running mate and surrogates who fully embrace his campaign. as such, i have never sought, will not seek and do not want to be considered for vice president. instead, i will focus my attention on representing the people of florida, retaining a conservative majority in the senate and electing principled conservatives across the country. with that, let's bring in sarah murray. let's quote the great david chalian, a no in may can be a yes in july and saying, no. >> he is saying, no. i think it is telling in the statement that he put out he said that donald trump should run with someone to fully
embrace the campaign and it seems like marco rubio is not there yet and talking to jake tapper later this afternoon. >> yes. >> so i think we'll get a better sense of where his head is at in all of this and the reality is candidate drops out of the race and you are a former adviser or a donor to that campaign -- >> looking up to that -- >> hoping there's another way they could end up on the ticket, maybe marco rubio would be the kind of guy to help donald trump with the hispanics and a little bit of what we are seeing and hearing right now. is sort of this hope that maybe there is a shot that this could all come together but rubio seems adamant that's not the case. >> he does. with regard, though, to the polls, the quinnipiac polls, swing states, pennsylvania, florida and ohio. they're neck and neck. >> they're neck and neck. donald trump is actually leading in this poll in ohio. trump's at 43. clinton at 49. in florida, basically a tie. in pennsylvania, essentially a tie. this is different from the national polling shown clinton
leading trump in a number of national polls and fueled the fears of republicans so i think a number of republicans looking at the polls saying, okay, maybe we have a shot here or even if donald trump can't win maybe it means we don't get massacred in the down ballot races and skeptics were worried about. i think the ohio and pennsylvania numbers telling because it means when trump is talking about the middle class, talking about trade, talking about wages, that's a kind of thing that seems to be getting through. >> and speaking this thursday with speaker ryan, listen, you got to get behind me. this is a legit race. see how close it is in certain very, very crucial states. thank you so much. >> thanks, brooke. and so we know doesn't want to be vice president but today senator marco rubio did talk about donald trump briefly before an audience in washington. an audience of foreign policy thinkers. >> i don't view myself as a guy to sit here for six months taking shots at him. people know where i stand.
they know how i feel and what our differences are. he's the nominee of the republican party or presumptive nominee via the voters. i respect and accept that. but that's not going to change the reservations i have about him or his campaign or the policies established but i'm not insisting he change anything. he needs to be true to whoever he is and that's the things he believes in then he may have a chance to make that argument to the american people. >> all right. let me bring in david catanese, and cnn political commentator hillary rosen and margaret hoover here, a republican strategist and commentator here at cnn, as well. welcome to all of you. david, you're up to bat first. you know, all of these different threads about marco rubio, the rnc meeting in hollywood, florida, last week. you know, he's not interested. but things would change. trump would have to walk issues
back. cut through it all for me. what are you hearing here? >> well, look. i think you could have different advisers on different pages for the candidates. remember, all the campaigns lots of advisers and different titles and sometimes as a reporter it's hard to figure out or it's your job to figure out who's the closest person to that candidate and possible that an adviser down there at the rnc meeting feeling out, hey, what's rubio's next move? he lost the senate seat and going back to the private sector if he's not on the ticket. so, that is probably all possibility but more interesting, sort of a macro story in this and how all of these guys trying to calibrate what's going on with the vote earls, millions and millions of voters, coming out and supporting trump, and talk -- and then also looking to the long-term, will it hurt them in the long term if they got on board the trump train and he goes down in flames in november? so a lot of these guys are struggling with that and i think
that is, you know, being displayed in rubio's remarks. >> it is hard to imagine as david said you don't know who the reports come from and hard to imagine marco himself advocating to be -- >> he might have not even known. >> exactly. that's what you have to think about at the end of the day who's the candidate? is this consistent with who they are and advocate? no. marco rubio running hard against donald trump. he's opposed to many, many of donald trump's positions. it just seems -- totally incomprehensib incomprehensible. we have gotten to know marco rubio on the campaign trail, those who work in republican politics, plenty of opportunities to interact with him. it doesn't to me hold water. >> go ahead, hillary. >> i was going to say i think it may not be marco rubio but donald trump is going to find someone, you know, respected in the democratic party to be his running mate. >> in the democratic party? >> i mean, in the republican
party, sorry. >> never know! >> yeah right. that wasn't even freudian. it's inevitable to find someone because, you know, and that, you know, a significant portion of republicans are going to end up falling in line here. >> yeah. on the republicans, we know now that the majority leader mitch mcconnell, he talked with our political reporter, expressing confidence in donald trump, specifically citing the swing state polls, quinnipiac polls showing pennsylvania, florida and ohio how, you know, clinton-trump matchup is so totally close. majority leader mcconnell said he believes the party will get behind the presumptive nominee. what kinds of conversations, margaret, do you think might he have with speaker ryan and donald trump? >> i mean, look. if you look at who has more leverage in this conversation, if donald trump's being honest with himself, paul ryan and
mitch mcconnell actually have more leverage. >> despite the polls? >> those polls give him leverage going into the conversation and the polls as we all know are about this moment. the republican party is starting to coalesce around the nominee. hillary clinton is far from the nomination. we all suspect he gets it but there's still a ton of energy right now and voting for bernie sanders. millions of them. so what -- hundreds of thousands of them. smaller states. what we know is that he has to in every single republican, donald trump does, mitt romney one and other people. he needs the conservative movement. the movement of the conservatives. paul ryans, mitch mcconnells and people looking to them for their leadership. that is what donald trump faces. he needs to get the conservative movement to go along with him if he stands a chance of winning in november. >> but what about hillary on those polls and think of hillary clinton. it is tough and a couple of states they trust trump more on issues of national security,
terrorism, economy and also they both perform poorly coming to trustworthiness and honesty and the gender gap. a mega headline. she does well among women. he does well among men. how does she fix that? >> i mean, two quick things and there's something in these quinnipiac polls for everybody. 83% of all of those polled in those 3 states do not think donald trump has the temperament to be president or commander in chief. so, you know, having said that, you know, you look back to the same period in 2012. mitt romney was ahead of barack obama here so nbc was very aggressive this afternoon in tweeting out their polls showed exactly the opposite that hillary clinton was well ahead in these states so i think margaret is right. the polls right now just a snapshot of confusion. >> okay. >> having said that, hillary clinton has a challenge. no question. she has to be kind of a grown-up
in the room running in a circus. and in a frenzy of uncertainty right among republicans and media frenzy of a celebrity candidate on the other side. there is a lot that hillary clinton, her campaign, have to get right here. they have to walk this line between reintroducing hillary clinton to an america who will give her a second look, the same way they're going to give donald trump a second look, once those two become officially the nominees and being sort of the strong, steady, grown-up in the room with thoughtful policies that the american people care about, not shifting. so i do think that that -- that this is not a cake walk for hillary clinton. any democrat that says it is is wrong. >> you know, someone who a lot of people in this country have trusted for years and years as he used to be on tv every night, jon stewart, you know, he was on on a podcast and talking about and jon stewart essentially
said, you know, it was the democrats that opened the door for donald trump. here's a piece of what he told david axelrod. >> he is a man baby. a physical countenance of a man and a baby's temperament and hands. i'll lay the blame then with the democrats. the door is open to a [ bleep ] like donald trump because the democrats haven't done enough to show to people that government that can be effectiveor. and if you can't do that, then you've lost the right to make that change and someone's going to come in and demagogue you and that's what happens. >> david, is there truth to that? >> no. i don't buy it. >> you don't buy it? >> i don't buy that at all. look. this is like when people blame the media for creating donald trump. because, you know, he is on television a lot which is a fine debate to have. whether we should be devoting that much coverage to all his rallies but the republican party created donald trump. the voters created donald trump.
we went through how many states now that voted and people have all this information and you can argue that more information could deter people from voting for donald trump by putting him out there and seeing all of his warts and the controversial things he says. so i mean, for jon stewart to say the democrats, you know, somehow the obama administration as he's saying, because their ineffectiveness on certain policies produced donald trump, this is a roiling, festering boil in the republican party exposed this year. and i think the establishment is still trying to reckon with it out of step with the voters just as much as the voters are out of step with their party leaders but this is a republican produced nominee because, look, hillary clinton's the nominee on the other side. we are not going to see as much of it as insurgency democrats going with what they know. democrats have an entirely new thing on their hands. >> apparently, let me just jump
in. apparently joe biden said this is not rocket science here but he is saying i feel confident hillary clinton will be the nominee and she will be the next president so he's predicting hillary clinton all the way. >> i just -- so interesting that jon stewart blames democrats for the rise of trump and demonstrates a philosophical fault line that it is about the role that liberals believe that the federal government should have with the individual and that the government is just one good techno accuracrat and harm and find a magical person and conservatives just clearly believe that's against human nature and not one person to align the interests and really add the kind of accountability you need in the huge, bloated bureaucracies and for smarter, smaller, streamlined government and stewart demonstrates the moorings more than anything else. >> let's be clear.
i meant that due the math and looks like hillary clinton could get it. i don't know who will be the next president of the united states and where you figure it out come november. thank you so much. >> thanks. coming up next, he has been floated as a running mate for hillary clinton. we'll talk live with the hud secretary castro about bernie sanders and donald trump and hillary clinton and marco rubio and you don't get the gig and you have to return to your day job. as senator. like ted cruz. not endorsed by many colleagues on capitol hill. what is that like? and a stunning case we have to talk about this today. this judge, he's accused of swapping sexual favors for reduced sentences. but wait until you hear what they found at his house. spoiler alert, nude pictures of his defendants. that's coming up. [plumber] i need to be where the pipes are.
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democratic nominee and will go on to be the next president of the united states. but who will join him on the democratic ticket? one man's name has come up again and again and again. and he's joining me. julio castro, nice to see you, sir. >> good to be with you, brooke. >> we'll be crystal clear. you are with me today as a personal secretary and not hud secretary. we'll save the hud questions for the next time. >> great. >> secretary castro, wonderful to have you on. out of the gate, ripping the band-aid off, are you being vetted? >> i am not. so i haven't heard from anyone. i know that there have been a lot of questions to different folks about that. i have said that i'm going to be back in texas next year. i'm happy to support secretary clinton because she's an amazing candidate for president. and once the ticket comes up, i'm happy to support the ticket, as well. i believe that she's going to win in november.
>> so you would agree with the vice president. let me ask you one other follow-up and then move on from this. if you were to be offered to be on her ticket, would you say, yes? >> that is not going to happen. and so, you know, i'm not going to hypothesize about that. but i do look forward to supporting secretary clinton and her running mate in the future. >> okay. i'll let it go. let's talk, though, about new quinnipiac polls out today and the swing states ohio, florida, pennsylvania where they show both hillary clinton and donald trump, nlg, neck and neck essentially. i realize these polls, snapshot in time but, you know, i'm wondering how worrisome it could be for the clinton campaign, you know, part of the reason folks are really loving donald trump is, you know, how he talks about the economy. he does better on the economy. why do you think that is? >> well, number one, i think anyone who follows this stuff at all would tell you that any poll that's taken six months before
election day is not a poll that you can really bank on. and so, it's probably not a good practice to comment on every single poll. however -- >> not the only poll that pointed that out on the economy. >> yeah. with respect to this particular poll, the quinnipiac poll, at this time in 2012 in may of 2012, quinnipiac had polling that had mitt romney ahead in five or six swing states and we saw how that turned out. in this poll particularly, they oversampled nonminorities and so the sampling does not reflect the likely demographic turnout in ohio or florida or pennsylvania in november. and i don't know why they did that. why they took the demographic number that is show one thing and then turned them the other way. what it adds up to, though, is not a reliable poll and, you
know, others including nbc news with their polling has said that their polls are showing consistently in the swing state that is hillary clinton ahead of donald trump and i'm confident that that's going to be the case when the vote earls go to the ballot box in november. >> what about all of those bernie sanders supporters? how do you stop, put matly, how do you stop trump from getting the sanders supporters? >> i think exactly the way secretary clinton is doing. today she is speaking to folks about the need to invest in early childhood education. to make child care more affordable for american families, to ensure that folks have the ability so that their kid can get a good, strong start in life with early childhood education. in other words, at the end of the day there's a choice to make. and i'm convinced that folks who supported senator sanders want to see or have the same vision that secretary clinton does for our nation. that's creating opportunity for
everyone and not just picking and choosing who gets opportunity in america and who doesn't and the problem with donald trump for those voters is that, you know, if you're muslim, you're suspect. if you have to work instead of relying on investment income then you get treated worse under his tax plan. if you're gay or lesbian or bisexual, transgender, then you can't marry the person that you love. he wants to pick and choose who gets opportunity and secretary clinton is for opportunity for every american. >> do you think, though, do you think at this point in time senator sanders should still be in the race? >> that's his decision. you know? he has i think made a positive contribution to the democratic race. it was -- >> is it hurting her? forgive the interruption. donald trump's already pivoted and thinking ahead to november and she can't yet technically. >> no. i think that senator sanders has
to come to a conclusion on when he should bow out of this race. now, having said that, you know, hillary clinton is almost 300 pledge delegates ahead. she's gotten more than 3 million votes. more than senator sanders. she is further ahead at this point of senator sanders than senator obama was of her in 2008. so it's clear where this race is going. this is a race between secretary clinton and donald trump and it's a strong, easy choice for senator sanders supporters i think who want to hold wall street accountable, make sure that we do something about income inequality, assure that america is the undisputed land of opportunity for everyone going forward. the candidate who has a vision to do that and execute it is secretary clinton. it is not donald trump. >> what about -- what about, though -- and i understand. but for this question really for younger viewers not familiar
with what happened in the '90s but if the clinton campaign came to you and asked you how would you respond to donald trump just a couple of days ago calling hillary clinton an enabler for her husband's infidelity? how would you tack that will any. >> think they're concerned about the future. i think they're concerned about making sure that they're able to afford college and why secretary clinton proposed a new -- >> forgive me. take millennials out of it. how should she respond? >> she needs to focus on what matters in people's lives and why she is in louisville focusing on how to make early childhood education more available to working families in the united states. that's why she is focused on greater housing opportunity, greater job opportunity in order to win an election you have to speak to people about what matters to their lives. and donald trump can be as entertaining and as insulting as he wants but the thing that he's not doing is not connecting with
folks about what's going to make their lives better. about what's going to create more opportunity for them. he's chosen insults and slogans instead of an actual plan and creating opportunity and come november what that's going to add up to is victory for secretary clinton. >> on that, i just have to ask you. the trump taco bowl on cinco de mayo, your reaction, sir, when you saw that? >> well, you know, i love bean and cheese tacos or enchiladas or tamales or a taco bowl and that seemed more like taco bell than real mexican food. as much as the next guy. however, it just continued to show how out of touch donald trump is with the hispanic community. the hispanic community doesn't need a mocking image of somebody eating a taco bah but to make sure there's more educational
opportunity out there and invest so that we have greater job opportunity for people of all backgrounds. what are you going to do on comprehensive immigration reform? on each of those, secretary clinton has much stronger plans and has walked the walk and so what you're going to see in november is strong hispanic turnout in the swing states and everywhere else for secretary clinton over donald trump. >> talking about texas where you say you're headed back next year and i know deportations are a huge, huge issue in your home state. it's been controversial under the current presidency. what should the next administration do differently? >> well, let me say that i'm very proud of a lot of the work that president obama has done with doca and docu and done more to try to keep families together, trying to ensure that dreamers are able to stay in the united states and positively
contribute to our economy. secretary clinton -- >> where is he maybe making a mistake or the next administration to improve? >> well, no. i don't think it's about mistakes that the president made but building on the work he's done and so secretary clinton said she would do everything possible to build on doca and docu and pursue comprehensive immigration reform in congress and push for that. so she gets it. she knows that as a nation economically and just at a human level with 11 million to 12 million folks and all of those families involved makes more sense to get comprehensive immigration reform done and compare it to donald trump whose solution to build a wall and that's not the best approach. >> hmm. do you think that democrats are at all taking hispanic voters for granted politically speaking? >> oh, i don't believe so.
i know for sure that secretary clinton is not. she has spent a lot of time not just in the last few months but really over the course of her working life in the hispanic community. one of the first jobs she had in politics was going down to south texas, my neck of the woods, and registering hispanic voters to participate in the democratic process spent time listening to communities from nevada, to florida, texas about their needs and that has informed her plans for prosperity in the future. >> julian castro, secretary of hud there in washington, on the obama administration talking to me today and a personal capacity as a big fan of hillary clinton's. thank you so much. talk again. >> great to be with you. >> thank you. coming up next, we'll take a pivot away from politicless for a minute. the shocking scandal of a judge resigns after more than 4,000 nude photos are found on his computers. investigators say the people in
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just past bottom of the hour. cnn. brooke baldwin. stunning details now emerging in a case rocking the legal world. abuse of power on an enormous scale. dozens of victims targeted by one judge accused of swapping sexual favors for reduced sentences. judge joseph bachman resigned after the search of the arkansas home uncovered thousands of
pictures of male defendants on his computer. many of them in nude posed for the camera. at least one underage. investigators believe the judge used the authority to prey on young men charged in his court. let's bring in nancy grace and also a former prosecutor. nancy grace, what the what? >> let me just start off. i don't like the way it's couched by saying swapped sexual favors. that kind of sounds like a party favor. okay? this is what really happened. when young men at least one and i suspect many, many more, we're talking about 100 to 200 men, 4,000 pornographic images that he forced these young men to take, he would bring them in, make them strip, bend over, have sexual acts with them, paddle
them sometimes and take close-up pictures of their private parts. now, that's what was happening. and in exchange, he would reduce their community service. now, this is wrong on so many levels. >> nobody had any idea this was going on! >> that's another problem. i don't believe this. this goes back 30 years. >> wow. >> that we know of. 4,000 images. where people would bring their trash they pick up on the side of the road to his home and then he said that he would take the photographs to document that they had done their community service. now, i'm coming from the system. i consider myself part of law enforcement and this makes me sick. here's another question to ponder in your free time. why isn't this guy behind bars? >> that's my question because he's resigned. >> yeah. >> not facing any charges. correct? >> do you see this? that's what he got. that's it. he resigns?
he needs to go to jail. this is a sex predator. he's disguised as a judge. they let him in arkansas zsit o the bench and some of the men teens? not like we can't find the victims. they were before him on minor offenses. not talking about murder, rape, dope dealing. minor offenses for which you might get community service. he used his power, he dressed up as a judge and sexually stalked these young men. he needs to go to jail. can i be anymore plain? >> i love that you don't hold back. that's why we have you on. as always, nancy grace, thank you. i got you. slap on the wrist. message clear. watch nancy grace tonight covering the search for missing 9-year-old carly trent, 8:00 eastern on hln. thank you, nancy. next, donald trump and the evangelical vote. he claims christians love him and many influential leaders
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really getting to know one another better. today campaign source telling cnn marco rubio's own people were one point at the stage of pitching their -- you know, senator rubio hard to become donald trump's running mate. keep in mind, that was a month ago at the rnc meeting in florida. as for the florida senator, he was speaking in washington today. he quickly put the whole thing to bed. >> my policy differences and reservations about donald's campaign are well established and said them often and i stand by those. those remain and i hope they will be addressed but those remain. i won't sit here fsh six months taking shots at him. >> with me now, host of the lead, the man who will be interviewing marco rubio, and a matter of minutes, jake tapper. jake tapper, the first national tv interview since he dropped out of the race so this is huge, huge for you and the network. what should we expect from the interview? do you think, you know, a no in
may necessarily means a no in july? >> well, that's the question. i mean, paul ryan, speaker of the house, told me last thursday that he couldn't endorse donald trump right now. but he did leave the door open to a future endorsement if trump was able to build bridges and unite the republican party. we'll see what senator rubio thinks. could he ever endorse donald trump? would he ever be willing to serve on a trump ticket? if that was the way for republicans to capture the white house. also, senator rubio just got back from rather eye opening i'm told trip to iraq and turkey and qatar to talk about -- to look at the threat of isis. what did he see in those countries? how bad is the threat from isis? how unstable are iraq and syria? we'll talk about that. in the context of the next
president will be to face those challenges. >> we'll look for that live at the top of the hour on your show. meantime, before i let you go, texas senator ted cruz back at the day job today on capitol hill for the first time. what is it like, you know, heading back to work after, you know, such a race for someone like him or even marco rubio? >> you know, it's very interesting. first of all, it is different because rubio said he's not running for re-election and assuming he sticks by that, this is his last year in the senate. ted cruz did not make that pledge and the term is not up. and it's different. every senator deals with defeat in a different way. i remember senator john mccain in 2000 after he lost a hard fought race against george w. bush he came back to the senate and started working in a much more bipartisan fashion than he had been reaching out to senators lieberman, then a democrat and edwards and others
to work on legislation in a more bipartisan way and some ways a thorn in the side of the bush white house. who knows what ted cruz is going to be? he already was kind of a thorn in the side of not only president obama but the republican leader of the senate. will he try something new, a new approach? what will his new-found stature lead him to be in the senate? >> uh-huh. tapper, thank you. we'll tune in. top of the hour for the big interview, live interview with senator marco rubio. thank you so much here on cnn. let's move on and show you an intriguing new voter survey about u.s. troops who they are supporting to be the next commander in chief. the military times got nearly 1,000 responses from active duty service members. we should note the survey not scientific and clearly shows donald trump beating hillary clinton by quite a margin here. just as remarkable, one in five said they won't vote if it
ultimately is a zin between hillary clinton and donald trump. military times says two thirds of the respondents identified themselves as enlisted personnel and others said they were officers and leo shane cowrote the story on the polls from the military times. welcome. >> thank you for the invitation. >> what surprised you the most about the numbers? >> i think the margin that trump is winning so to say in this race surprised me. with all the criticism of donald trump on foreign policy, the veterans issues, i would have expected some service members to be more hesitant to back him but, you know, as we saw in the survey, there's still a lot of support in there. >> he's talked the big talk about beefing up the military. you know? so in a lot of i know service men and women coming into the military, many republicans. not surprising the thing that surprised mehe most is one in five said they won't vote, period. >> sure. yeah. we didn't give folks the option for a third party candidate and
wanted to try to figure out what their opinion was on hillary clinton and donald trump. but, you know, there's obviously a large margin of individuals in the service who aren't happen we this. we heard a lot of anecdotal comments that, look, i'm looking at third party candidate an i wish someone else would enter the race and i wish we had choice and how's this the only two choices we ended up? frustration and people like the options don't reflect who they would like to be the next commander in chief. >> for those who support mr. trump, what is the quality that they admire most about him? >> well, you know, from the numbers we have seen right now, it is just republican. the disparity on parties is stark. you know? among republicans who are in the service, about 80% back trump. among democrats in the service, about 75% backed hillary clinton. so really, it just comes down to party afill yfiliation and that loyalty. we have to dig in deeper to see
the appeal, whether or not that stays and whether or not some undecided break one way or another and right now a reflection of where they come down on the political spectrum. >> would love to hear the details. leo shane, thank you so much with the military times. we'll talk again. >> any time. thank you for the invite. >> thank you. if donald trump wants to sit in the oval office he has a bit of work to do and win over evangelical voters, tony perkins, penny nance reportedly threatening to sit out the election if he doesn't choose a socially conservative running mate. evangelicals make up about 25% of the votes cast and joining me now, bob vanderplatz and he was a ted cruz supporter. bob, nice to have you on. >> good to be with you, brooke. >> so, you know, trump is the presumed nominee for the republican party. why are you holding off in
supporting him? what exactly are you waiting for? >> well i think a lot of people just have questions. they want to get clarity on the comments he's made. on several issues. but i think -- >> like what? >> who's he going to surround himself with? and that vp pick is going to give us a clear indication of who will donald trump surround himself with. will he defend religious liberty? will he champion pro-family values? align himself solidly with the nation of israel? these are the things to clear up for us before we go blindly to donald trump. the organizations like the family leader, not a republican subsidiary. we have a higher calling, we have higher values, higher standards that we attain to. >> on clarity, bob, what would you say the top two most important issues to you that if it's not trump his vice president should embody?
>> well, i think what it is is that we are looking at who his vp pick is i've said very openly that i think he needs to select somebody like a ted cruz to be his running mate, someone who is very qualified in the u.s. senate, someone that is completely trusted in the appointments of supreme court justices. and i'm not even sure ted cruz would accept that appointment to be the vp ticket, but if he wants to unify the party, if he wants to bring evangelicals into the camp, i believe that would be a great move by touchdown to say, all right, let's bring ted cruz, he had a large percentage of this race as well. i don't know if cruz would accept it, but i think it would give a comfort level to a lot of us who are just kind of sitting and watching right now. >> yeah, i don't know if he would accept it given the barbs between the two men. but as a ted cruz supporter, i've sure you've seen the news
that he was saying if he wins nebraska primary, he wouldn't rule out jumping back in the race. but do you think he should is this shouldn't the party coalesce around one candidate? >> well, the party should coalesce around one candidate, but i think what ted cruz is pointing out is that he suspended his campaign, he didn't necessarily end his campaign. and cleveland can be very interesting. because now tedelegates are ultimately in charge. if they say that's another moderate or somebody that we cannot trust, then the delegates have the option of coming up with their open wn vp pick, som the accountable to the delegates. so this is far from over in regards to what makes up the ticket.
but i think the vp pick is crucial and i think the appointment of supreme court justices, who will he appoint, i think that has to be something that has to be cleared up for us. >> i've heard that on judge merrick garland, whether it's get him through if there were to be a hillary clinton presidency. as far as the delegates are concerned, selecting a vice president, i'm not defeat sure. i think it will be up to the potential commander in chief. but tuduly noted. we'll see if you get that clarity with whoever he might choose fp thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, john walsh is here. he is launching the significance new campaign to help raise awareness missing children. we'll talk live with the host of the hunt coming up. [beekeeper] from bees to business expenses,
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new campaign to help find missing children called the rock one sock initiative, the concept, how many times have you lost a sock, frantically searched and one day it just shows up again? this to raise awareness of finding missing children. john walsh is with me along with his son, cal, who works at the that goes am center f national center for missing and exploited children. you're the one who came up with this? >> myself and himy team. >> why is this so important? >> well, may 25 is national missing children's day. so throughout the month of may, the center is trying to raise awareness around our issues with the rock one sock challenge. >> it was their idea. the national center's idea. and i'm so proud of them because the challenge is how do you develop something like this.
but when your child goes missing, you get a lot of attention for about two weeks and then it drop off the news cycle. and where is your missing child is it just a picture at the national center begging people to look forget about these kids. we know what it's like to have one sock, so we're all just rocking one sock to remind people that we get kids back alive. even give up on dugard and smart, but the national center doesn't. so slow down, think about the thousands of kids out there missing. the horrible dad who didn't get custody and took the children. or the horrible mom who didn't get custody. the strange are abducted childlike jacob. people want to know what happened to that beautiful little person that they loved so much. they're scared, they're afraid. you just can't comprehend helped what it's like to have a missing
child. but to not know is what kills you. >> i respect what you do so much. and you weren't around yet when adam went missing. so megan is your older sister, it was four years later when you were born. what was it like growing up in this family knowing you didn't know him but a piece was missing and how had that that translated into this life's work of yours? >> i thank my parents for handling it the right way in my opinion. they didn't sit me down one day and just drop the bombshell. i knew about it all growing up. we celebrated his birthday, different events. he always knew that i had this brother that i never met. >> it is called rock the sock. >> rock one sock. >> rock one sock. i will rock mine later will this month. thank you both. i appreciate it.
and cnn's "the hunt" returns next month. the lead with jake tapper starts right now. an exclusive interview with senator marco rubio live in studio, his first national tv interview since leaving the presidential race. it's a special election day edition of "the lead" and it starts right now. good afternoon and welcome to a special edition of the llead. brand new polls show donald trump and hillary clinton running neck and neck in florida, ohio and pennsylvania. today's quinnipiac poll shows clinton with a one point edge in florida and pennsylvania. trump leads clinton in ohio by four points. interestingly though the math to get the democratic nomination is tough for bernie sanders, he does do better against trump in hypothetical match-ups in those same three states.